When will 8th Lord or planet in 8th give Riches ?

August 11, 2009

Dear Dhananjayanji,

//I have a friend who is a real " Purushothma " . Vastly educated, man of good

qualities,well mannered philanthropist ,a Dharmisti / " Dharmaraja " in real

sense. He was born on 4th April1970 at 17:47:13 hrs IST in 81E08-16N10. //

This is the remarking similarity upto seconds with PVR Narasimha author of JHora

as i have in record.

April 4, 1970

Time: 17:47:13

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 81 E 08' 00 " , 16 N 10' 00 "

Machilipatnam, India

It is really amazing !

Thankyou,

Regards,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

, Dhananjayan Brahma

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> Pranams,

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> Mr.Gurushanker,

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> I have only d information to add to the statistics under the header

further more added the qualities of the native's `dayalagunaa'.I do not know

that how I sown a seed of doubt into your heat.However you being so much

inquisitive to know the identity ,I think it is my duty to dispel doubts to my

extant possible.

> Being a professional I do not want to disclose the exact identity of the

individual .The individual is a C.A & ICWAI and former FA & CAO of a very big

Govt.under taking went on voluntary retirement,settled in BanjaraHill area in

Telungana - he makes his earnings through intra-day tradings,Consultancy

Services etc.He is blessed by Shree Chinnajeeyar and Sri Pushpagiri mutt .

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> P.S:My grand-mother used to tell (in 1940s) that there would be 7 persons look

alike - who knows the birth rate then?May be7 per minute !! While I wonder at

the then Natural imitation ...The present world birth rate - crippled with Man

made cloning technic ............!! ?? :-)

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give Riches ?

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> Tuesday, 11 August, 2009, 5:44 AM

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> Shri. Dhananjayan,

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> You have displayed the details of " author of this software " from JHora. Is he

your friend? I think he lives in US. Does he pay tax in India? Name the

Rajarishis who have blessed him. How do you know his life particulars from age

5. As far as I know, he is popular because of JHora. It is free software, he

has no income on this.

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> Clarify my doubts.

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> ancient_indian_ astrology, Dhananjayan Brahma

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qualities,well mannered philanthropist ,a Dharmisti / " Dharmaraja " in real

sense. He was born on 4th April1970 at 17:47:13 hrs IST in 81E08-16N10. He

enjoys his life and let lives others. He is more than a farmer whose hard labour

ploughs back good income / sustenance to many Pandits.He is being respected,

admired and blessed by many Rajarishis.His, once haters do sastanga namaskarams

to him and seek his blessings. He earns nearly multiple(say 7 to 9 lacks) lacks

per month,he is also a very true honest tax payer. This blessed enjoys Saraka

Sarala Raja yoga right from his 5th year of his birth.

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wealth does not come by hard work alone, it is often 8H which gives the unearned

wealth and makes one rich. But more often than not, 8H wealth is tainted.

Anyhow, to get any DHAN/riches, the primary requirement is to have good

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types, etc), sudden gains can come from 8H. Whenever native has strong dhan

yogas and 8H/L or planets in 8H participate in the yogas, and chart is otherwise

strong getting navamsha support, native will get unearned wealth through

inheritance, bribes, investments, underhand dealings, tax evasions, etc. Even

the politicians, actors, and spiritual gurus amassing great wealth in Swiss

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of Dhirubhai Ambani, Strong 8L with 11L in Kendra in 4H gave Dheerendra

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is 2H from 7H, wife brings money through marriage and her job when strong and

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politicians, IAS Officers, Spiritual Gurus can be seen how money is dug from 8H,

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August 12, 2009

Respected Sreenadh ji,

Thanks for taking interest in the chart. I am sorry, Jhora or Parashar or Leo 99 gives Leo gana not Cancer lagna.

Regards--- On Tue, 8/11/09, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

Sreenadh <sreesog Re: When will 8th Lord or planet in 8th give Riches ? Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 9:53 PM

Dear Kursija ji, //I have a chart DOB 22 June,1968, TOB 11:30 hrs, Delhi. She has Rahu in 8th in the sign of Jupiter and got married in the dasha of Rahu/Jupiter in 1994.8th lord Jupiter in lagna and she is obese and secretive. She was married to a person who has no much earning till today. She has two daughters. Ist issue aborted. Hope learned members will be able to give answer to it// The first point to mention is that - She DON'T have Rahu in 8th house at all! She is Cancer Lagna born with Rahu in 9th house. Whether it be Chandrahari Ayanamsa or Lahari Ayanamsa I am getting Cancer lagna only and NOT Leo lagna for this chart. Therefore I don't think this chart is suitable to discuss about the result that would be provided by "Rahu in 8th house". Love and regards,Sreenadh

August 12, 2009

Respected Sh Sunil Nair ji,

Thanks for giving your valuable time for the chart.But Rahu is really creating confusion in our minds. Sh Sreenadh calculated wrong lagna and inferred that the nature does not want to discuss the chart. I am also not able to make you understand my point of view. My only view is that "If Rahu is posited in 8th house in any sign" and 8th lord in Lagna, Moon Saturn in 9th, rest planets in 11th house, in chalit in 10th house, forming so many dhan yoga can make the husband of the native financially weak. As I am confused in the matter, I sought your advice.

Regards.--- On Tue, 8/11/09, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Re: When will 8th Lord or planet in 8th give Riches ? Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 12:34 PM

dear Kursija ji Namaskar U question was will all rahu in any house as 8th House frm lagna will giv richness --My answer will b No in dasa s such rahu s may giv or even negete the dhana yogas and material prosperity ( here we r not going in spiritual aspects or dharmic aspects in Life ) depends on total strnght of chart and its special status ( u hav to apply all rahu phalam -how we can see it ,it is already discussed several times here in this very grp itself ) the other lady without going in details and making chart again ,i am talking frm memory .So has so many planets in 11 House .and Jup dasa is running Now so can get some dhana in this dasa ,but the v0lume and amnt i dont know and cannot re visit chart again Jup also has amsa sambantha with all planets in 11th House ( and jup is in Labhamsa ) so venus is

there ( as 10th L ) ,merc as 2nd and 11th L and sun as Lagna Lord ,mars as 5th and 9th L ( u hav to work on it as indian sastras demands we gather it than it is direct telling of results and rishies used many many words to see how the nature of dasa can b,so our efforts will guide us to correct predictions esp if the nativ is directly consulting u ) also Jup can b maraka ( frm pain to death ) to many jeeva aspects ( means Living relativs ) in her Life ( pls consult chart more ) in dasa i dont hav time now to go in every details of her chart as i am talking frm memory but remebr Jup is also 8th L in her chart so u hav to find in ur own way how both Houses effects will frutify in full lenght of dasa Hope we can call this a discussion and i hope i answered u rgrds sunil nair , "S.C. Kursija"

<sckursija wrote:>> Respected Sunil Nair ji,> Thanks for the reply. My query is simple. Does Rahu in 8th, what ever be the sign, gives riches? next She got married on 12-5-1994 Rahu/ Jupiter/ Saturn and abortion in Jan 1995, Rahu/ Jupiter/ Venus. 8th lord in lagna ? In bhava chalit Jupiter is in 12th, exalted and vipreet raja yoga, Saturn is in 8th, Sun, Mercury, Venus and Mars are in 10th, 6th lord is in 8th with Rahu, vipreet raja yoga. You are right for obesity She may suffer from chronic disease, but what about financial position?> Regards> > --- On Mon, 8/10/09, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala Re: When will 8th Lord or planet in 8th give Riches ?> > Monday, August 10, 2009, 9:18 PM> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kursija Ji > > Namaskar > > actualy i dont know i am correct in answering ur question as realy i dont know what is ur question in reality > > if u singly ask rahu in 8th House it may has a say in married Life of ladies as it is treated as Deergha sumangli stan ( means Longititvity of married Life ) unless strong 9th H or Lord or 9th House has so much strong benefics or influence .Here jup in lagna is aspecting her 5th and 7th and 9th House too .> > Now u can see her venus the karaka which can decide the quality of family life ( married ) and its effects has afflicted > > 7th Lord is debilated .( vargottam debilation ) > > only grace is jup as natural benefic in lagna who is aspecting the 7th House which may b tried to save

marriage till today ,who is also 8th L ( jup is brihaspathi means big planet so can giv fatness ),moon also in jupiterian amsa ,and lagnamsa fallen in watery sign ( so i think all this influence has givn fat and obesity .> > as regrds to 5th house and mostly girls u can see all kendra s frm 5th House is afflicted and karaka we can say not afflicted ( who is also 5th L --Jupiter ) and even 5th House has drishi of so many planets including malefics ( actualy it can giv more kids too as so many planets r aspecting 5th House ( in their respectiv dasa s in sub or sub sub periods too ) but it can not gaurantee their longitivity as it can also work as maraka for it .> > when was this abortion to first issue happened ,is it in sani period ??> > > i hope i answered ur query > > rgrds sunil nair > > , "S.C. Kursija"

sckursija@ wrote:> >> > Dear Dushyant Trivedi, > > Thanks for sharing chart. It has raised one thing in my mind. Does Rahu in 8th have some signification? I have a chart DOB 22 June,1968, TOB 11:30 hrs, Delhi. She has Rahu in 8th in the sign of Jupiter and got married in the dasha of Rahu/Jupiter in 1994.8th lord Jupiter in lagna and she is obese and secretive. She was married to a person who has no much earning till today. She has two daughters. Ist issue aborted. Hope learned members will be able to give answer to it > > > > --- On Mon, 8/10/09, dushyant trivedi trivedi20@ wrote:> > > > > dushyant trivedi trivedi20@> > > Re: When will 8th Lord or planet in 8th give Riches ?> > > > > > Monday, August 10, 2009, 6:55 AM> > > >

> > Dear Mr. Bhaskar,> > > > > > In the example sighted by me the native got riches in the> > > Mahadasha of Rahu. Rahu is in the 8th house in Leo. > > > > > > Foe ready reference the birth details are as under> > > > > > DOB 16th Oct 1923> > > TOB 14.20 IST> > > POB Khedbrahma, North Gujarat> > > > > > D D Trivedi> > > > > > --- On Sun, 9/8/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > When will 8th Lord or> > > planet in 8th give Riches ?> > > > > > Sunday, 9 August,

2009, 10:59 PM> > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > Some thread on 8th Lord in 8th was on, which I have not> > > read.> > > Can anyone tell me if its possible - That-> > > 1) 8th Lord will give riches.> > > 2) Planet in 8th will give Riches ?> > > 3) 8th lord in 8th will give riches ?> > > I will answer this. Yes this is very much possible. But> > > would like to know when ?> > > I am now talking of practical astrology. No shlokas. No> > > references from here and there. Talk with experience.> > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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August 12, 2009

Dear Kursija Ji Sure ,sreenadh ji has bad omen and he left the chart and it is showing first hand answer to ur doubt Now let us come to the POint on status of her married Life what is the status of 7th Lord in her chart dont u see sani aspects venus ( the marriage karka in heavy affliction too ) and also lagna Lord also a planet in 9th House which is debilated ,also punrphoo dosha ( sani +moon yoga ) other wise also moon the karaka for mind who is with dukha karaka sani who is 6th L and 7th lord too .so out of all this factors other than a benefic jup aspecting 7th House ( even if he is 8th L ,8th L and the Houses sitting by 8th L is a Laibility in charts ,here u already said she is is having disease and obesity too ) so while considering Bhava ,bhavesha karaka for seeing the anubhava as rgrds to that bhava u can see 2 factors is already very bad ( bhavesh and karaka is afflicted or weak and bhava only has a benefic drishti but of 8th Lord ) even if u considered navamesh of 7th L who is mars ,he is in deep combustion So many planets in 11th or 10th need not giv a earning husband unless the abov said pointers r helping ( even many times too much planets in a rasi is a laibility too ,as there is chance for graha Yudha and and combustion etc and respectiv dasa s may b hence weak to deliver good results too ) Hope it is clear Now rgrds sunil nair All this is frm memory and without re doing the chart .So forgiv any error may happened in discussion , "S.C. Kursija" <sckursija wrote:>> Respected Sh Sunil Nair ji,> Thanks for giving your valuable time for the chart.But Rahu is really creating confusion in our minds. Sh Sreenadh calculated wrong lagna and inferred that the nature does not want to discuss the chart. I am also not able to make you understand my point of view. My only view is that "If Rahu is posited in 8th house in any sign" and 8th lord in Lagna, Moon Saturn in 9th, rest planets in 11th house, in chalit in 10th house, forming so many dhan yoga can make the husband of the native financially weak. As I am confused in the matter, I sought your advice.> Regards.> > --- On Tue, 8/11/09, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala Re: When will 8th Lord or planet in 8th give Riches ?> > Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 12:34 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Kursija ji > > Namaskar > > U question was will all rahu in any house as 8th House frm lagna will giv richness --My answer will b No > > in dasa s such rahu s may giv or even negete the dhana yogas and material prosperity ( here we r not going in spiritual aspects or dharmic aspects in Life ) depends on total strnght of chart and its special status ( u hav to apply all rahu phalam -how we can see it ,it is already discussed several times here in this very grp itself ) > > the other lady without going in details and making chart again ,i am talking frm memory .So has so many planets in 11 House .> and Jup dasa is running Now > > so can get some dhana in this dasa ,but the v0lume and amnt i dont know and cannot re visit chart again > > Jup also has amsa sambantha with all planets in 11th House ( and jup is in Labhamsa ) > > so venus is there ( as 10th L ) ,merc as 2nd and 11th L and sun as Lagna Lord ,mars as 5th and 9th L ( u hav to work on it as indian sastras demands we gather it than it is direct telling of results and rishies used many many words to see how the nature of dasa can b,so our efforts will guide us to correct predictions esp if the nativ is directly consulting u ) > > also Jup can b maraka ( frm pain to death ) to many jeeva aspects ( means Living relativs ) in her Life ( pls consult chart more ) in dasa > > i dont hav time now to go in every details of her chart as i am talking frm memory > > but remebr Jup is also 8th L in her chart > > > so u hav to find in ur own way how both Houses effects will frutify in full lenght of dasa > > Hope we can call this a discussion and i hope i answered u > > rgrds sunil nair > > > , "S.C. Kursija" sckursija@ wrote:> >> > Respected Sunil Nair ji,> > Thanks for the reply. My query is simple. Does Rahu in 8th, what ever be the sign, gives riches? next She got married on 12-5-1994 Rahu/ Jupiter/ Saturn and abortion in Jan 1995, Rahu/ Jupiter/ Venus. 8th lord in lagna ? In bhava chalit Jupiter is in 12th, exalted and vipreet raja yoga, Saturn is in 8th, Sun, Mercury, Venus and Mars are in 10th, 6th lord is in 8th with Rahu, vipreet raja yoga. You are right for obesity She may suffer from chronic disease, but what about financial position?> > Regards> > > > --- On Mon, 8/10/09, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@> > Re: When will 8th Lord or planet in 8th give Riches ?> > > > Monday, August 10, 2009, 9:18 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kursija Ji > > > > Namaskar > > > > actualy i dont know i am correct in answering ur question as realy i dont know what is ur question in reality > > > > if u singly ask rahu in 8th House it may has a say in married Life of ladies as it is treated as Deergha sumangli stan ( means Longititvity of married Life ) unless strong 9th H or Lord or 9th House has so much strong benefics or influence .Here jup in lagna is aspecting her 5th and 7th and 9th House too .> > > > Now u can see her venus the karaka which can decide the quality of family life ( married ) and its effects has afflicted > > > > 7th Lord is debilated .( vargottam debilation ) > > > > only grace is jup as natural benefic in lagna who is aspecting the 7th House which may b tried to save marriage till today ,who is also 8th L ( jup is brihaspathi means big planet so can giv fatness ),moon also in jupiterian amsa ,and lagnamsa fallen in watery sign ( so i think all this influence has givn fat and obesity .> > > > as regrds to 5th house and mostly girls u can see all kendra s frm 5th House is afflicted and karaka we can say not afflicted ( who is also 5th L --Jupiter ) and even 5th House has drishi of so many planets including malefics ( actualy it can giv more kids too as so many planets r aspecting 5th House ( in their respectiv dasa s in sub or sub sub periods too ) but it can not gaurantee their longitivity as it can also work as maraka for it .> > > > when was this abortion to first issue happened ,is it in sani period ??> > > > > > i hope i answered ur query > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > , "S.C. Kursija" sckursija@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Dushyant Trivedi, > > > Thanks for sharing chart. It has raised one thing in my mind. Does Rahu in 8th have some signification? I have a chart DOB 22 June,1968, TOB 11:30 hrs, Delhi. She has Rahu in 8th in the sign of Jupiter and got married in the dasha of Rahu/Jupiter in 1994.8th lord Jupiter in lagna and she is obese and secretive. She was married to a person who has no much earning till today. She has two daughters. Ist issue aborted. Hope learned members will be able to give answer to it > > > > > > --- On Mon, 8/10/09, dushyant trivedi trivedi20@ wrote:> > > > > > > dushyant trivedi trivedi20@> > > > Re: When will 8th Lord or planet in 8th give Riches ?> > > > > > > > Monday, August 10, 2009, 6:55 AM> > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Bhaskar,> > > > > > > > In the example sighted by me the native got riches in the> > > > Mahadasha of Rahu. Rahu is in the 8th house in Leo. > > > > > > > > Foe ready reference the birth details are as under> > > > > > > > DOB 16th Oct 1923> > > > TOB 14.20 IST> > > > POB Khedbrahma, North Gujarat> > > > > > > > D D Trivedi> > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 9/8/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > When will 8th Lord or> > > > planet in 8th give Riches ?> > > > > > > > Sunday, 9 August, 2009, 10:59 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > Some thread on 8th Lord in 8th was on, which I have not> > > > read.> > > > Can anyone tell me if its possible - That-> > > > 1) 8th Lord will give riches.> > > > 2) Planet in 8th will give Riches ?> > > > 3) 8th lord in 8th will give riches ?> > > > I will answer this. Yes this is very much possible. But> > > > would like to know when ?> > > > I am now talking of practical astrology. No shlokas. No> > > > references from here and there. Talk with experience.> > > > best wishes,> > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to> > > > the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/> > > > > > > > > > > > ---> > > > > > > >

August 12, 2009

Respected Sh.Sunil Nair ji,

Thanks for the explanation.

Regards--- On Wed, 8/12/09, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Re: When will 8th Lord or planet in 8th give Riches ? Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 1:27 PM

Dear Kursija Ji Sure ,sreenadh ji has bad omen and he left the chart and it is showing first hand answer to ur doubt Now let us come to the POint on status of her married Life what is the status of 7th Lord in her chart dont u see sani aspects venus ( the marriage karka in heavy affliction too ) and also lagna Lord also a planet in 9th House which is debilated ,also punrphoo dosha ( sani +moon yoga ) other wise also moon the karaka for mind who is with dukha karaka sani who is 6th L and 7th lord too .so out of all this factors other than a benefic jup aspecting 7th House ( even if he is 8th L ,8th L and the Houses sitting by 8th L is a Laibility in charts ,here u already said she is is having disease and obesity too ) so while considering Bhava ,bhavesha karaka for seeing the anubhava as rgrds to

that bhava u can see 2 factors is already very bad ( bhavesh and karaka is afflicted or weak and bhava only has a benefic drishti but of 8th Lord ) even if u considered navamesh of 7th L who is mars ,he is in deep combustion So many planets in 11th or 10th need not giv a earning husband unless the abov said pointers r helping ( even many times too much planets in a rasi is a laibility too ,as there is chance for graha Yudha and and combustion etc and respectiv dasa s may b hence weak to deliver good results too ) Hope it is clear Now rgrds sunil nair All this is frm memory and without re doing the chart .So forgiv any error may happened in discussion , "S.C. Kursija" <sckursija wrote:>> Respected Sh Sunil Nair ji,> Thanks for giving your valuable time for the chart.But Rahu is really

creating confusion in our minds. Sh Sreenadh calculated wrong lagna and inferred that the nature does not want to discuss the chart. I am also not able to make you understand my point of view. My only view is that "If Rahu is posited in 8th house in any sign" and 8th lord in Lagna, Moon Saturn in 9th, rest planets in 11th house, in chalit in 10th house, forming so many dhan yoga can make the husband of the native financially weak. As I am confused in the matter, I sought your advice.> Regards.> > --- On Tue, 8/11/09, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala Re: When will 8th Lord or planet in 8th give Riches ?> > Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 12:34 PM> > > > > > > > > > >

> > dear Kursija ji > > Namaskar > > U question was will all rahu in any house as 8th House frm lagna will giv richness --My answer will b No > > in dasa s such rahu s may giv or even negete the dhana yogas and material prosperity ( here we r not going in spiritual aspects or dharmic aspects in Life ) depends on total strnght of chart and its special status ( u hav to apply all rahu phalam -how we can see it ,it is already discussed several times here in this very grp itself ) > > the other lady without going in details and making chart again ,i am talking frm memory .So has so many planets in 11 House .> and Jup dasa is running Now > > so can get some dhana in this dasa ,but the v0lume and amnt i dont know and cannot re visit chart again > > Jup also has amsa sambantha with all planets in 11th House ( and jup is in Labhamsa )

> > so venus is there ( as 10th L ) ,merc as 2nd and 11th L and sun as Lagna Lord ,mars as 5th and 9th L ( u hav to work on it as indian sastras demands we gather it than it is direct telling of results and rishies used many many words to see how the nature of dasa can b,so our efforts will guide us to correct predictions esp if the nativ is directly consulting u ) > > also Jup can b maraka ( frm pain to death ) to many jeeva aspects ( means Living relativs ) in her Life ( pls consult chart more ) in dasa > > i dont hav time now to go in every details of her chart as i am talking frm memory > > but remebr Jup is also 8th L in her chart > > > so u hav to find in ur own way how both Houses effects will frutify in full lenght of dasa > > Hope we can call this a discussion and i hope i answered u > > rgrds sunil nair >

> > , "S.C. Kursija" sckursija@ wrote:> >> > Respected Sunil Nair ji,> > Thanks for the reply. My query is simple. Does Rahu in 8th, what ever be the sign, gives riches? next She got married on 12-5-1994 Rahu/ Jupiter/ Saturn and abortion in Jan 1995, Rahu/ Jupiter/ Venus. 8th lord in lagna ? In bhava chalit Jupiter is in 12th, exalted and vipreet raja yoga, Saturn is in 8th, Sun, Mercury, Venus and Mars are in 10th, 6th lord is in 8th with Rahu, vipreet raja yoga. You are right for obesity She may suffer from chronic disease, but what about financial position?> > Regards> > > > --- On Mon, 8/10/09, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@> > Re: When will 8th Lord or planet in 8th give Riches ?>

> > > Monday, August 10, 2009, 9:18 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kursija Ji > > > > Namaskar > > > > actualy i dont know i am correct in answering ur question as realy i dont know what is ur question in reality > > > > if u singly ask rahu in 8th House it may has a say in married Life of ladies as it is treated as Deergha sumangli stan ( means Longititvity of married Life ) unless strong 9th H or Lord or 9th House has so much strong benefics or influence .Here jup in lagna is aspecting her 5th and 7th and 9th House too .> > > > Now u can see her venus the karaka which can decide the quality of family life ( married

) and its effects has afflicted > > > > 7th Lord is debilated .( vargottam debilation ) > > > > only grace is jup as natural benefic in lagna who is aspecting the 7th House which may b tried to save marriage till today ,who is also 8th L ( jup is brihaspathi means big planet so can giv fatness ),moon also in jupiterian amsa ,and lagnamsa fallen in watery sign ( so i think all this influence has givn fat and obesity .> > > > as regrds to 5th house and mostly girls u can see all kendra s frm 5th House is afflicted and karaka we can say not afflicted ( who is also 5th L --Jupiter ) and even 5th House has drishi of so many planets including malefics ( actualy it can giv more kids too as so many planets r aspecting 5th House ( in their respectiv dasa s in sub or sub sub periods too ) but it can not gaurantee their longitivity as it can also work as maraka for it

..> > > > when was this abortion to first issue happened ,is it in sani period ??> > > > > > i hope i answered ur query > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > , "S.C. Kursija" sckursija@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Dushyant Trivedi, > > > Thanks for sharing chart. It has raised one thing in my mind. Does Rahu in 8th have some signification? I have a chart DOB 22 June,1968, TOB 11:30 hrs, Delhi. She has Rahu in 8th in the sign of Jupiter and got married in the dasha of Rahu/Jupiter in 1994.8th lord Jupiter in lagna and she is obese and secretive. She was married to a person who has no much earning till today. She has two daughters. Ist issue aborted. Hope learned members will be able to give answer to it > > > > > > --- On Mon, 8/10/09, dushyant trivedi trivedi20@

wrote:> > > > > > > dushyant trivedi trivedi20@> > > > Re: When will 8th Lord or planet in 8th give Riches ?> > > > > > > > Monday, August 10, 2009, 6:55 AM> > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Bhaskar,> > > > > > > > In the example sighted by me the native got riches in the> > > > Mahadasha of Rahu. Rahu is in the 8th house in Leo. > > > > > > > > Foe ready reference the birth details are as under> > > > > > > > DOB 16th Oct 1923> > > > TOB 14.20 IST> > > > POB Khedbrahma, North Gujarat> > > > > > > > D D

Trivedi> > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 9/8/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > When will 8th Lord or> > > > planet in 8th give Riches ?> > > > > > > > Sunday, 9 August, 2009, 10:59 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > Some thread on 8th Lord in 8th was on, which I have not> > > > read.> > > > Can anyone tell me if its possible - That-> > > > 1) 8th Lord will give riches.> > > > 2) Planet in 8th will give Riches ?> > > > 3) 8th lord in 8th will give riches ?> > > > I will answer

this. Yes this is very much possible. But> > > > would like to know when ?> > > > I am now talking of practical astrology. No shlokas. No> > > > references from here and there. Talk with experience.> > > > best wishes,> > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to> > > > the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/> > > > > > > > > > > >

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August 12, 2009

Dear Shri Bhaskar Ji,

Thank you for your kind apreciation

Regards

Chandu2Chill

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Chandu 2 Chill,

>

> I like this coming from you. I have been watching you for some time. You

> have been able to pick up the strings of astrology very fast in a small

> time frame of 1-2 years, and a very attentive student . Very Good.

> Really appreciable.

>

> I too have the same data of Dhirubhai.

>

> regards./Bhaskar.

, " Chandu2chill "

> <nanna_id2006@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Neelam Ji,

> >

> > //Strong 8L in lagna with dhan yogas in the chart give wealth as in

> the case of Dhirubhai Ambani,//

> >

> > Just as an academic interest could you please share the Birth Data of

> Shri Dhirubhai Ambani? that you have?

> >

> > i have a data of him as below

> >

> > DhirubaiAmbani

> >

> > December 28, 1932

> > Time:6:37 AM

> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place:Chorwad,70 E 14' 00 " , 21 N 01' 00 "

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Chand2Chill

> >

> > P S: Humor:- Name of the birth place (Chorwad)is very funny!!!:-):-)

> >

> > , neelam gupta

> neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > >

> > > I think riches would mean more than normal financial gains or

> wealth. As

> > > wealth does not come by hard work alone, it is often 8H which gives

> the

> > > unearned wealth and makes one rich. But more often than not, 8H

> wealth is

> > > tainted. Anyhow, *to get any DHAN/riches, the primary requirement is

> to have

> > > good Dhanyogas.*

> > >

> > > Apart from those working in normal 8H professions (excluding

> underworld

> > > types, etc), sudden gains can come from 8H. Whenever native has

> strong dhan

> > > yogas and 8H/L or planets in 8H participate in the yogas, and chart

> is

> > > otherwise strong getting navamsha support, native will get unearned

> wealth

> > > through inheritance, bribes, investments, underhand dealings, tax

> evasions,

> > > etc. Even the politicians, actors, and spiritual gurus amassing

> great wealth

> > > in Swiss Accounts will go through their 8H. We can see the charts of

> Amitabh

> > > Bachchan, OSHO, etc.

> > >

> > > Strong 8L in lagna with dhan yogas in the chart give wealth as in

> the case

> > > of Dhirubhai Ambani, Strong 8L with 11L in Kendra in 4H gave

> Dheerendra

> > > Brahmchari huge assets and wealth in the relevant dashas.

> > >

> > > 8H is 12H of father, one gets money when father dies if 8H is

> fortified. 8H

> > > is 2H from 7H, wife brings money through marriage and her job when

> strong

> > > and benefic 7L is in 8H. Strong 8L in 5H can give gains through

> speculation.

> > >

> > > These are just a few examples with basic concepts. Charts of most of

> the

> > > politicians, IAS Officers, Spiritual Gurus can be seen how money is

> dug from

> > > 8H, and who helps!

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Neelam

> > >

> >

>

August 12, 2009

Dear Neelam Ji,

No problems at all!!! i just wanted to know more about the Birth Data that i

have of Dhirubhai is relaible/same of correct since you and Bhaskar ji

clarified, now i can consider it (B'data) to be the right one!!

Regards

Chandu2Chill

, neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji, Chandu2chill ji,

>

> I have the same data from CHORWAD! Any problem with that?

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

> 2009/8/11 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

>

> >

> > Dear Chandu 2 Chill,

> >

> > I like this coming from you. I have been watching you for some time. You

> > have been able to pick up the strings of astrology very fast in a small

> > time frame of 1-2 years, and a very attentive student . Very Good.

> > Really appreciable.

> >

> > I too have the same data of Dhirubhai.

> >

> > regards./Bhaskar.

> >

> > --- In

<%40.\

com>,

> > " Chandu2chill "

> >

> > <nanna_id2006@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Neelam Ji,

> > >

> > > //Strong 8L in lagna with dhan yogas in the chart give wealth as in

> > the case of Dhirubhai Ambani,//

> > >

> > > Just as an academic interest could you please share the Birth Data of

> > Shri Dhirubhai Ambani? that you have?

> > >

> > > i have a data of him as below

> > >

> > > DhirubaiAmbani

> > >

> > > December 28, 1932

> > > Time:6:37 AM

> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > Place:Chorwad,70 E 14' 00 " , 21 N 01' 00 "

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Chand2Chill

> > >

> > > P S: Humor:- Name of the birth place (Chorwad)is very funny!!!:-):-)

> > >

> > > --- In

<%40.\

com>,

> > neelam gupta

> > neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > > >

> > > > I think riches would mean more than normal financial gains or

> > wealth. As

> > > > wealth does not come by hard work alone, it is often 8H which gives

> > the

> > > > unearned wealth and makes one rich. But more often than not, 8H

> > wealth is

> > > > tainted. Anyhow, *to get any DHAN/riches, the primary requirement is

> > to have

> > > > good Dhanyogas.*

> > > >

> > > > Apart from those working in normal 8H professions (excluding

> > underworld

> > > > types, etc), sudden gains can come from 8H. Whenever native has

> > strong dhan

> > > > yogas and 8H/L or planets in 8H participate in the yogas, and chart

> > is

> > > > otherwise strong getting navamsha support, native will get unearned

> > wealth

> > > > through inheritance, bribes, investments, underhand dealings, tax

> > evasions,

> > > > etc. Even the politicians, actors, and spiritual gurus amassing

> > great wealth

> > > > in Swiss Accounts will go through their 8H. We can see the charts of

> > Amitabh

> > > > Bachchan, OSHO, etc.

> > > >

> > > > Strong 8L in lagna with dhan yogas in the chart give wealth as in

> > the case

> > > > of Dhirubhai Ambani, Strong 8L with 11L in Kendra in 4H gave

> > Dheerendra

> > > > Brahmchari huge assets and wealth in the relevant dashas.

> > > >

> > > > 8H is 12H of father, one gets money when father dies if 8H is

> > fortified. 8H

> > > > is 2H from 7H, wife brings money through marriage and her job when

> > strong

> > > > and benefic 7L is in 8H. Strong 8L in 5H can give gains through

> > speculation.

> > > >

> > > > These are just a few examples with basic concepts. Charts of most of

> > the

> > > > politicians, IAS Officers, Spiritual Gurus can be seen how money is

> > dug from

> > > > 8H, and who helps!

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Neelam

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 12, 2009

Dear Neelam ji ,chandu ji and Bhaskar ji Thanks for this chart of dhirubhai ambani It was one of the intriguing chart for me at one Look there is Not any big raja Yoga s except swagrhi sani in 2nd House ( let us forget abt suryadi yogas and chandra di yogas and other yoga s ) and sun ,moon and lagna ( means all the three lagna s repeats in one sign ) in one sign ,born in sukla prathama .He strted rising possiblity in the period of rahu in 3rd House ,aspected By 5th L and 12th L ,upto here i can understand ,but his popularity and promince happened in jup dasa ,but if u see Jup is in santhi ,mritha avasta and debilated in amsa ,can many astrologers has the courage to declare this dasa is going to b one of the best tho it is lagna L and 4th L of chart assuming the chart is correct and Birth time givn is correct to dot ,b4 hand I invite every one 's opinions and suggestions here ( also request every one to post some Known events abt him so as to check the data )rgrds sunil nair , "Chandu2chill" <nanna_id2006 wrote:>> Dear Neelam Ji,> > No problems at all!!! i just wanted to know more about the Birth Data that i have of Dhirubhai is relaible/same of correct since you and Bhaskar ji clarified, now i can consider it (B'data) to be the right one!!> > Regards> > Chandu2Chill > > > , neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskar ji, Chandu2chill ji,> > > > I have the same data from CHORWAD! Any problem with that?> > > > Regards> > Neelam> > > > > > 2009/8/11 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Chandu 2 Chill,> > >> > > I like this coming from you. I have been watching you for some time. You> > > have been able to pick up the strings of astrology very fast in a small> > > time frame of 1-2 years, and a very attentive student . Very Good.> > > Really appreciable.> > >> > > I too have the same data of Dhirubhai.> > >> > > regards./Bhaskar.> > >> > > <%40>,> > > "Chandu2chill"> > >> > > <nanna_id2006@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Neelam Ji,> > > >> > > > //Strong 8L in lagna with dhan yogas in the chart give wealth as in> > > the case of Dhirubhai Ambani,//> > > >> > > > Just as an academic interest could you please share the Birth Data of> > > Shri Dhirubhai Ambani? that you have?> > > >> > > > i have a data of him as below> > > >> > > > DhirubaiAmbani> > > >> > > > December 28, 1932> > > > Time:6:37 AM> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place:Chorwad,70 E 14' 00", 21 N 01' 00"> > > >> > > > Regards> > > >> > > > Chand2Chill> > > >> > > > P S: Humor:- Name of the birth place (Chorwad)is very funny!!!:-):-)> > > >> > > > <%40>,> > > neelam gupta> > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > >> > > > > I think riches would mean more than normal financial gains or> > > wealth. As> > > > > wealth does not come by hard work alone, it is often 8H which gives> > > the> > > > > unearned wealth and makes one rich. But more often than not, 8H> > > wealth is> > > > > tainted. Anyhow, *to get any DHAN/riches, the primary requirement is> > > to have> > > > > good Dhanyogas.*> > > > >> > > > > Apart from those working in normal 8H professions (excluding> > > underworld> > > > > types, etc), sudden gains can come from 8H. Whenever native has> > > strong dhan> > > > > yogas and 8H/L or planets in 8H participate in the yogas, and chart> > > is> > > > > otherwise strong getting navamsha support, native will get unearned> > > wealth> > > > > through inheritance, bribes, investments, underhand dealings, tax> > > evasions,> > > > > etc. Even the politicians, actors, and spiritual gurus amassing> > > great wealth> > > > > in Swiss Accounts will go through their 8H. We can see the charts of> > > Amitabh> > > > > Bachchan, OSHO, etc.> > > > >> > > > > Strong 8L in lagna with dhan yogas in the chart give wealth as in> > > the case> > > > > of Dhirubhai Ambani, Strong 8L with 11L in Kendra in 4H gave> > > Dheerendra> > > > > Brahmchari huge assets and wealth in the relevant dashas.> > > > >> > > > > 8H is 12H of father, one gets money when father dies if 8H is> > > fortified. 8H> > > > > is 2H from 7H, wife brings money through marriage and her job when> > > strong> > > > > and benefic 7L is in 8H. Strong 8L in 5H can give gains through> > > speculation.> > > > >> > > > > These are just a few examples with basic concepts. Charts of most of> > > the> > > > > politicians, IAS Officers, Spiritual Gurus can be seen how money is> > > dug from> > > > > 8H, and who helps!> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > > Neelam> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> >>

August 12, 2009

Pranams,Mr.Vijay Goel ji,I do agree and wonder at the similarities in birth info.I am sure that I have copied this information from his 45 page horoscope print out prepared by some Astrologer at Adayar,Chennai. But one thing, it is free from any doubt that my friend is well-off .Regards / Dhananjayan--- On Tue, 11/8/09, Vijay Goel <goyalvj wrote:Vijay Goel <goyalvj Re: When will 8th Lord or planet in 8th give Riches ?To:

Date: Tuesday, 11 August, 2009, 11:55 PM

Dear Dhananjayanji,

//I have a friend who is a real "Purushothma" . Vastly educated, man of good qualities,well mannered philanthropist ,a Dharmisti / "Dharmaraja" in real sense. He was born on 4th April1970 at 17:47:13 hrs IST in 81E08-16N10. //

This is the remarking similarity upto seconds with PVR Narasimha author of JHora as i have in record.

April 4, 1970

Time: 17:47:13

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 81 E 08' 00", 16 N 10' 00"

Machilipatnam, India

It is really amazing !

Thankyou,

Regards,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

ancient_indian_ astrology, Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya@.. .> wrote:

>

> Pranams,

>

> Mr.Gurushanker,

>

> I have only d information to add to the statistics under the header further more added the qualities of the native's `dayalagunaa' .I do not know that how I sown a seed of doubt into your heat.However you being so much inquisitive to know the identity ,I think it is my duty to dispel doubts to my extant possible.

> Being a professional I do not want to disclose the exact identity of the individual .The individual is a C.A & ICWAI and former FA & CAO of a very big Govt.under taking went on voluntary retirement,settled in BanjaraHill area in Telungana - he makes his earnings through intra-day tradings,Consultanc y Services etc.He is blessed by Shree Chinnajeeyar and Sri Pushpagiri mutt .

>

> P.S:My grand-mother used to tell (in 1940s) that there would be 7 persons look alike - who knows the birth rate then?May be7 per minute !! While I wonder at the then Natural imitation ...The present world birth rate - crippled with Man made cloning technic ............ !! ?? :-)

>

> Regards / Dhananjayan

>

> --- On Tue, 11/8/09, guruparamacharya <guruparamacharya@ ...> wrote:

>

> guruparamacharya <guruparamacharya@ ...>

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: When will 8th Lord or planet in 8th give Riches ?

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Tuesday, 11 August, 2009, 5:44 AM

>

> Shri. Dhananjayan,

>

> You have displayed the details of "author of this software" from JHora. Is he your friend? I think he lives in US. Does he pay tax in India? Name the Rajarishis who have blessed him. How do you know his life particulars from age 5. As far as I know, he is popular because of JHora. It is free software, he has no income on this.

>

> Clarify my doubts.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Gurushanker

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya@ .> wrote:

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> > Pranams,

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> > Smt.Neelam gupta,

>

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>

> > I have a friend who is a real "Purushothma" . Vastly educated, man of good qualities,well mannered philanthropist ,a Dharmisti / "Dharmaraja" in real sense. He was born on 4th April1970 at 17:47:13 hrs IST in 81E08-16N10. He enjoys his life and let lives others. He is more than a farmer whose hard labour ploughs back good income / sustenance to many Pandits.He is being respected, admired and blessed by many Rajarishis.His, once haters do sastanga namaskarams to him and seek his blessings. He earns nearly multiple(say 7 to 9 lacks) lacks per month,he is also a very true honest tax payer. This blessed enjoys Saraka Sarala Raja yoga right from his 5th year of his birth.

>

> >

>

> > I hope the above birth data would serve as a big catch to add to the captioned statistics

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> >

>

> > Regards / Dhananjayan

>

> > --- On Mon, 10/8/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...>

>

> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: When will 8th Lord or planet in 8th give Riches ?

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

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> > Apart from those working in normal 8H professions (excluding underworld types, etc), sudden gains can come from 8H. Whenever native has strong dhan yogas and 8H/L or planets in 8H participate in the yogas, and chart is otherwise strong getting navamsha support, native will get unearned wealth through inheritance, bribes, investments, underhand dealings, tax evasions, etc. Even the politicians, actors, and spiritual gurus amassing great wealth in Swiss Accounts will go through their 8H. We can see the charts of Amitabh Bachchan, OSHO, etc.

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> > Strong 8L in lagna with dhan yogas in the chart give wealth as in the case of Dhirubhai Ambani, Strong 8L with 11L in Kendra in 4H gave Dheerendra Brahmchari huge assets and wealth in the relevant dashas.

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August 12, 2009

Dear Sunil Ji,

Just check his death as per KAS. It is in the highest powrer planet.

Guru ji had asked the same question to the KAS list members some years back

about similar thing that you have raised :-).

Some of the answers will rattle the very basics that many follow.

Only Shani is in own house but its in neecha navamsa.

Most people think that planest in unccha sthan, mool trikon sthan, friends sign

are very good and powerful, then how come a chart as powerful as that of

Dhirubhai Ambani ji's does not have such combinations?

This is a fantastic chart for all to discuss.

This chart is a very special chart and I am curious to understand how one

studies such charts w.r.t quality and quantum of success, how this chart is

different from another chart which might have more planets in unccha sthan or mt

or own sign and what are the rules along with the exceptions that makes one rise

to such high levels and in other cases the rise is not such high.

If Sreenadh ji in the end can dig up some excellent verses from his ancient

books it will help all.

In many posts when quoting, texts are giving sign placement to judge the power

of a planet. In this chart, not a single planet is in unccha or mool trikon

sign.

Even SAV points in 1st house are only 20 and 2nd house has only 26 bindus in SAV

as well and from lagna sun and moon at that !!!

Those following ashtakavarg, is that indicative of the wealth ammased by this

native with a house that has less than 28 bindus i.e. not powerful at the

surface?

2 planets are in 12th house (as per what I have experiened that many consider

8th and 12th house to be bad), then 2 planet are in 12th house.

some schools consider MT sign to be more powerful than the other sign so in this

case, 11th is Mool trikon on Venus as compared to 6th house so one cannot even

say that there is VRY as if one considers 11th lord in 12th as compared to 6th

lord in 12th.

8th house is considered bad then 8th lord is in 1st house in house of self,

shouldnt that be terrible, if u go verbatim that a bad lord in good house?

Please take this email and argue each point and please do not get antagonized by

it. Take it as an opportunity to dig up verses if that is what one beleives and

principles of jyotish with which one can prove beyond any reasonable doubt that

this chart is that of a person who came up from Rag's to riches.

Sunil ji, some events

1) Death 6th july 2002

2) Marriage in 1954 is what I could find.

Event justification for death using the same technique used in the previous

death example.

Death in Sa/Me. Sa is 3rd lord and antra of is Me who is deputed by Mars. Mars

has highest power for 8th house and Me has 2nd highest they are in 4:10 so Me is

deputed by Ma as antra of mercury comes first in Shani MD and Mars aspects 3rd

house so itself or its Samdharmi can give the result. Standard laws.

Sun transits sign of Ju and nak of Mercury. Ju is LoE (1st lord) and Me is 2nd

highest power.

Daily points are in rising trend.

5th July 2002 -> 196

6th july 2002 -> 197

Rest of the details one can get from wikipedia as well.

Cheers !!!

Ash

, " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

> Dear Neelam ji ,chandu ji and Bhaskar ji

>

> Thanks for this chart of dhirubhai ambani

>

> It was one of the intriguing chart for me

>

> at one Look there is Not any big raja Yoga s except swagrhi sani in 2nd

> House ( let us forget abt suryadi yogas and chandra di yogas and other

> yoga s ) and sun ,moon and lagna ( means all the three lagna s repeats

> in one sign ) in one sign ,born in sukla prathama .He strted rising

> possiblity in the period of rahu in 3rd House ,aspected By 5th L and

> 12th L ,upto here i can understand ,but his popularity and promince

> happened in jup dasa ,but if u see Jup is in santhi ,mritha avasta and

> debilated in amsa ,can many astrologers has the courage to declare this

> dasa is going to b one of the best tho it is lagna L and 4th L of chart

> assuming the chart is correct and Birth time givn is correct to dot ,b4

> hand

>

> I invite every one 's opinions and suggestions here ( also request every

> one to post some Known events abt him so as to check the data )

>

> rgrds sunil nair

>

> , " Chandu2chill "

> <nanna_id2006@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Neelam Ji,

> >

> > No problems at all!!! i just wanted to know more about the Birth Data

> that i have of Dhirubhai is relaible/same of correct since you and

> Bhaskar ji clarified, now i can consider it (B'data) to be the right

> one!!

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Chandu2Chill

> >

> > , neelam gupta

> neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar ji, Chandu2chill ji,

> > >

> > > I have the same data from CHORWAD! Any problem with that?

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Neelam

> > >

> > > 2009/8/11 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Chandu 2 Chill,

> > > >

> > > > I like this coming from you. I have been watching you for some

> time. You

> > > > have been able to pick up the strings of astrology very fast in a

> small

> > > > time frame of 1-2 years, and a very attentive student . Very Good.

> > > > Really appreciable.

> > > >

> > > > I too have the same data of Dhirubhai.

> > > >

> > > > regards./Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> <%40yaho\

> ogroups.com>,

> > > > " Chandu2chill "

> > > >

> > > > <nanna_id2006@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Neelam Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > //Strong 8L in lagna with dhan yogas in the chart give wealth as

> in

> > > > the case of Dhirubhai Ambani,//

> > > > >

> > > > > Just as an academic interest could you please share the Birth

> Data of

> > > > Shri Dhirubhai Ambani? that you have?

> > > > >

> > > > > i have a data of him as below

> > > > >

> > > > > DhirubaiAmbani

> > > > >

> > > > > December 28, 1932

> > > > > Time:6:37 AM

> > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > Place:Chorwad,70 E 14' 00 " , 21 N 01' 00 "

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Chand2Chill

> > > > >

> > > > > P S: Humor:- Name of the birth place (Chorwad)is very

> funny!!!:-):-)

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> <%40yaho\

> ogroups.com>,

> > > > neelam gupta

> > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I think riches would mean more than normal financial gains or

> > > > wealth. As

> > > > > > wealth does not come by hard work alone, it is often 8H which

> gives

> > > > the

> > > > > > unearned wealth and makes one rich. But more often than not,

> 8H

> > > > wealth is

> > > > > > tainted. Anyhow, *to get any DHAN/riches, the primary

> requirement is

> > > > to have

> > > > > > good Dhanyogas.*

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Apart from those working in normal 8H professions (excluding

> > > > underworld

> > > > > > types, etc), sudden gains can come from 8H. Whenever native

> has

> > > > strong dhan

> > > > > > yogas and 8H/L or planets in 8H participate in the yogas, and

> chart

> > > > is

> > > > > > otherwise strong getting navamsha support, native will get

> unearned

> > > > wealth

> > > > > > through inheritance, bribes, investments, underhand dealings,

> tax

> > > > evasions,

> > > > > > etc. Even the politicians, actors, and spiritual gurus

> amassing

> > > > great wealth

> > > > > > in Swiss Accounts will go through their 8H. We can see the

> charts of

> > > > Amitabh

> > > > > > Bachchan, OSHO, etc.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Strong 8L in lagna with dhan yogas in the chart give wealth as

> in

> > > > the case

> > > > > > of Dhirubhai Ambani, Strong 8L with 11L in Kendra in 4H gave

> > > > Dheerendra

> > > > > > Brahmchari huge assets and wealth in the relevant dashas.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 8H is 12H of father, one gets money when father dies if 8H is

> > > > fortified. 8H

> > > > > > is 2H from 7H, wife brings money through marriage and her job

> when

> > > > strong

> > > > > > and benefic 7L is in 8H. Strong 8L in 5H can give gains

> through

> > > > speculation.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > These are just a few examples with basic concepts. Charts of

> most of

> > > > the

> > > > > > politicians, IAS Officers, Spiritual Gurus can be seen how

> money is

> > > > dug from

> > > > > > 8H, and who helps!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Neelam

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 13, 2009

Dear Ash ji Thanks for taking this chart.If we hav more events we cud hav discuss furhter more better and effectiv to eastblish each systems ,all Lagna/sun/moon in one sign ,so even with events it will make every one a difficult chart to test the birth time givn is correct or not ,thinking birth date s may b correct .I also seen sani in neechamsa in 5th House aries and his kids rivalry each other is well known now in all over world Death dasa is tallying since it is also marak frm moon also ( both sat and merc ) Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): Sat MD: 1998-04-26 (17:01:08) - 2017-04-26 (7:35:56) Merc AD: 2001-04-29 (11:31:38) - 2004-01-07 (14:11:34) Moon PD: 2002-06-13 (2:38:17) - 2002-09-03 (0:51:36) Sookshma-antardasas in this PD: Moon: 2002-06-13 (2:38:17) - 2002-06-19 (22:29:23) Mars: 2002-06-19 (22:29:23) - 2002-06-24 (17:11:10)Marriage in 1954 too we can see some way tallies as merc is 7th L and moon dasa at times qualifies it and also aspecting 7th House planet too .Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): Moon MD: 1947-04-27 (8:11:56) - 1957-04-26 (18:23:56) Merc AD: 1953-02-24 (22:08:56) - 1954-07-27 (8:23:38) Pratyantardasas in this AD: Merc: 1953-02-24 (22:08:56) - 1953-05-09 (5:24:01) Ket: 1953-05-09 (5:24:01) - 1953-06-08 (9:47:52) Ven: 1953-06-08 (9:47:52) - 1953-09-02 (15:30:19) Sun: 1953-09-02 (15:30:19) - 1953-09-28 (12:25:03) Moon: 1953-09-28 (12:25:03) - 1953-11-10 (15:16:17) Mars: 1953-11-10 (15:16:17) - 1953-12-10 (19:40:08) Rah: 1953-12-10 (19:40:08) - 1954-02-26 (10:24:20) Jup: 1954-02-26 (10:24:20) - 1954-05-06 (10:10:18) Sat: 1954-05-06 (10:10:18) - 1954-07-27 (8:23:38)My question was simple ,assuming chart is correct how we can see this is one of the best chart for showing the quality and magnitude of success which every one Knows it is as good as one of the rags to riches story i think More events ,date of birth of kids etc will b of help ful I am here inviting all to discuss with their favrite sampradaya s even if we see jaimini aruda (AL ) in meena rasi and sani and venus and merc is inflencing his 11house ,but his success strted in rahu dasa with a planet in 12th frm AL ( and i blv he was working in Yemen ( a muslim country represented By rahu also ) in begining of rahu dasa Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): Rah MD: 1964-04-26 (11:08:20) - 1982-04-26 (19:53:56)i think shri shanmukha can giv more illumination on it -even i dont see much jaimini raja yogas too other than this in his chart .( but jaimini scholars of 7 and 8 karaka paksha can illuminate us ) thanks and rgrds sunil nair , "ashsam73" <kas wrote:>> Dear Sunil Ji,> > Just check his death as per KAS. It is in the highest powrer planet.> > Guru ji had asked the same question to the KAS list members some years back about similar thing that you have raised :-).> > Some of the answers will rattle the very basics that many follow.> > Only Shani is in own house but its in neecha navamsa.> > Most people think that planest in unccha sthan, mool trikon sthan, friends sign are very good and powerful, then how come a chart as powerful as that of Dhirubhai Ambani ji's does not have such combinations?> > This is a fantastic chart for all to discuss. > > This chart is a very special chart and I am curious to understand how one studies such charts w.r.t quality and quantum of success, how this chart is different from another chart which might have more planets in unccha sthan or mt or own sign and what are the rules along with the exceptions that makes one rise to such high levels and in other cases the rise is not such high.> > If Sreenadh ji in the end can dig up some excellent verses from his ancient books it will help all.> > In many posts when quoting, texts are giving sign placement to judge the power of a planet. In this chart, not a single planet is in unccha or mool trikon sign.> > Even SAV points in 1st house are only 20 and 2nd house has only 26 bindus in SAV as well and from lagna sun and moon at that !!!> > Those following ashtakavarg, is that indicative of the wealth ammased by this native with a house that has less than 28 bindus i.e. not powerful at the surface?> > 2 planets are in 12th house (as per what I have experiened that many consider 8th and 12th house to be bad), then 2 planet are in 12th house.> > some schools consider MT sign to be more powerful than the other sign so in this case, 11th is Mool trikon on Venus as compared to 6th house so one cannot even say that there is VRY as if one considers 11th lord in 12th as compared to 6th lord in 12th.> > 8th house is considered bad then 8th lord is in 1st house in house of self, shouldnt that be terrible, if u go verbatim that a bad lord in good house?> > Please take this email and argue each point and please do not get antagonized by it. Take it as an opportunity to dig up verses if that is what one beleives and principles of jyotish with which one can prove beyond any reasonable doubt that this chart is that of a person who came up from Rag's to riches.> > Sunil ji, some events> > 1) Death 6th july 2002> 2) Marriage in 1954 is what I could find.> > Event justification for death using the same technique used in the previous death example.> > Death in Sa/Me. Sa is 3rd lord and antra of is Me who is deputed by Mars. Mars has highest power for 8th house and Me has 2nd highest they are in 4:10 so Me is deputed by Ma as antra of mercury comes first in Shani MD and Mars aspects 3rd house so itself or its Samdharmi can give the result. Standard laws.> > Sun transits sign of Ju and nak of Mercury. Ju is LoE (1st lord) and Me is 2nd highest power.> > Daily points are in rising trend.> > 5th July 2002 -> 196> 6th july 2002 -> 197> > > Rest of the details one can get from wikipedia as well.> > > Cheers !!!> Ash> > , "sunil nair" astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Neelam ji ,chandu ji and Bhaskar ji> > > > Thanks for this chart of dhirubhai ambani> > > > It was one of the intriguing chart for me> > > > at one Look there is Not any big raja Yoga s except swagrhi sani in 2nd> > House ( let us forget abt suryadi yogas and chandra di yogas and other> > yoga s ) and sun ,moon and lagna ( means all the three lagna s repeats> > in one sign ) in one sign ,born in sukla prathama .He strted rising> > possiblity in the period of rahu in 3rd House ,aspected By 5th L and> > 12th L ,upto here i can understand ,but his popularity and promince> > happened in jup dasa ,but if u see Jup is in santhi ,mritha avasta and> > debilated in amsa ,can many astrologers has the courage to declare this> > dasa is going to b one of the best tho it is lagna L and 4th L of chart> > assuming the chart is correct and Birth time givn is correct to dot ,b4> > hand> > > > I invite every one 's opinions and suggestions here ( also request every> > one to post some Known events abt him so as to check the data )> > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > > , "Chandu2chill"> > <nanna_id2006@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Neelam Ji,> > >> > > No problems at all!!! i just wanted to know more about the Birth Data> > that i have of Dhirubhai is relaible/same of correct since you and> > Bhaskar ji clarified, now i can consider it (B'data) to be the right> > one!!> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Chandu2Chill> > >> > >> > > , neelam gupta> > neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, Chandu2chill ji,> > > >> > > > I have the same data from CHORWAD! Any problem with that?> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Neelam> > > >> > > >> > > > 2009/8/11 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Chandu 2 Chill,> > > > >> > > > > I like this coming from you. I have been watching you for some> > time. You> > > > > have been able to pick up the strings of astrology very fast in a> > small> > > > > time frame of 1-2 years, and a very attentive student . Very Good.> > > > > Really appreciable.> > > > >> > > > > I too have the same data of Dhirubhai.> > > > >> > > > > regards./Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > > --- In> > <%40yaho\> > ogroups.com>,> > > > > "Chandu2chill"> > > > >> > > > > <nanna_id2006@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Neelam Ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > //Strong 8L in lagna with dhan yogas in the chart give wealth as> > in> > > > > the case of Dhirubhai Ambani,//> > > > > >> > > > > > Just as an academic interest could you please share the Birth> > Data of> > > > > Shri Dhirubhai Ambani? that you have?> > > > > >> > > > > > i have a data of him as below> > > > > >> > > > > > DhirubaiAmbani> > > > > >> > > > > > December 28, 1932> > > > > > Time:6:37 AM> > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > Place:Chorwad,70 E 14' 00", 21 N 01' 00"> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > >> > > > > > Chand2Chill> > > > > >> > > > > > P S: Humor:- Name of the birth place (Chorwad)is very> > funny!!!:-):-)> > > > > >> > > > > > --- In> > <%40yaho\> > ogroups.com>,> > > > > neelam gupta> > > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I think riches would mean more than normal financial gains or> > > > > wealth. As> > > > > > > wealth does not come by hard work alone, it is often 8H which> > gives> > > > > the> > > > > > > unearned wealth and makes one rich. But more often than not,> > 8H> > > > > wealth is> > > > > > > tainted. Anyhow, *to get any DHAN/riches, the primary> > requirement is> > > > > to have> > > > > > > good Dhanyogas.*> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Apart from those working in normal 8H professions (excluding> > > > > underworld> > > > > > > types, etc), sudden gains can come from 8H. Whenever native> > has> > > > > strong dhan> > > > > > > yogas and 8H/L or planets in 8H participate in the yogas, and> > chart> > > > > is> > > > > > > otherwise strong getting navamsha support, native will get> > unearned> > > > > wealth> > > > > > > through inheritance, bribes, investments, underhand dealings,> > tax> > > > > evasions,> > > > > > > etc. Even the politicians, actors, and spiritual gurus> > amassing> > > > > great wealth> > > > > > > in Swiss Accounts will go through their 8H. We can see the> > charts of> > > > > Amitabh> > > > > > > Bachchan, OSHO, etc.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Strong 8L in lagna with dhan yogas in the chart give wealth as> > in> > > > > the case> > > > > > > of Dhirubhai Ambani, Strong 8L with 11L in Kendra in 4H gave> > > > > Dheerendra> > > > > > > Brahmchari huge assets and wealth in the relevant dashas.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 8H is 12H of father, one gets money when father dies if 8H is> > > > > fortified. 8H> > > > > > > is 2H from 7H, wife brings money through marriage and her job> > when> > > > > strong> > > > > > > and benefic 7L is in 8H. Strong 8L in 5H can give gains> > through> > > > > speculation.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > These are just a few examples with basic concepts. Charts of> > most of> > > > > the> > > > > > > politicians, IAS Officers, Spiritual Gurus can be seen how> > money is> > > > > dug from> > > > > > > 8H, and who helps!> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > Neelam> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

August 13, 2009

Dear Sunil ji,

Thanks for replying and justifying Death and Marriage.

Yes, I would be eager to understand on why based on this

chart, Dhirubhai Ambani ji reached such high pinnacle.

On one hand, his kids are fighting but at the same time they

have together increased the empire.

Children fight and then they make up, such is the game of politics. However, that is as far as children go,

but main focus is that Dhirubhai with this chart,

started from nothing and he build such a large empire. This is a special chart.

He also had children, wife and a marital life, no divorce

which indicates he had a home.

Those who quote / study Ashtakavarga from standard texts, I would

like to hear their opinion as well on how such a wealthy man with such a

personality has only 20 points in lagna and 26 in 2nd house and less

than 28 points in 9th house as well which is of luck and sanchit karm.

Also I am curious to understand how as per standard dictum

i.e. based on unccha, neecha, mt

based judging of strength of a planet, here no planet is in unccha

sign or MT. Also 2 planets are in

12th house. 8th

lord is in 1st house etc etc. Then I am very interested to hear the

opinion of the learned on the judging of strength on how that is approached.

How the quantum is studied or approached?

If this chart came to us blindly, without knowing who’s

chart this is, how would one approach it and identify the quantum or rise in

life from nothing?

Are there any quotes for those who have studied ancient books

like Sreenadh ji and I am

sure there might be so many on this esteemed list who can give some insight

based on their studies with their Guru ji’s or

based on their own research and findings ?

Ancient Astrology from Rishi Horas (as per definition of this group), Jaimini, KP, Tropical, SA etc etc

there are so many techniques or paths.

Anyone who has got some insights from their esteemed Guru ji’s and gyan should also

give their opinions and that will help everyone learn.

Cheers !!!

Ash