Rahu_ 9H

July 13, 2009

Dear Sunita ji, I will try to provide a detailed reply possibly by tomorrow - about "Rahu in 9H"Love and regards,Sreenadh , Sunita Joshi <sunita_joshi07 wrote:>> Respected Sreenadhji,> Pranam. Very valuable knowledge you gave us. I am learning "Vedic Jyotish". Sir, give detail knowledge about rahu situtated in 9th bhav. It is Dharma bhav. Rahu will give adverse effect on education, dharma, father. Please write on this. Thanks with regards,> Yours sincerely ,> --SUNITA --

July 14, 2009

Dear Sunita ji, Here goes my reply, hope you will like it. ==================================

Rahu in 9th

House

Rahu is a malefic planet and when

placed in 9th we may expect it to hinder the luck of the native,

deprives him of good gurus, fade his vision about true spirituality, cause

difficulties to father and so on. This is our general feeling and the normal

possible derivations. But let us see what our sages has to say on this, and

what special guidance they provide us with. As per Garga, –

NeechadharmanugataH syat satya

saucha vivarjitaH

Bhagyaheenascha mandascha

dharmage simhika sute

(Garga Hora)

[if Rahu, the son of Simhika, is

placed in 9th house, then the native would be the follower of a

degenerated (or low) religious system. He will not maintain truth and

cleanliness (during the period of Rahu), will be unlucky and slow (especially

slow intellect) in everything]

Since 9th indicates

Dharma (religion or religious order) that we follow – it is natural to expect

that is Rahu is present in 9th then the native would be a follower

of a low or degenerated religious order. Similarly since 9H indicates luck, it

is natural to conclude that the native would be generally unlucky (especially

during the period of Rahu). 9th house is 5th from 5th

house – i.e. intellect from house of intellect. Thus is it natural to suppose

that the presence of a malefic Rahu in 9th should affect the

intellect of the native as per `Bhavat Bhava' principle and the native would be

slow intellect, or will feel slowness in everything (including his intellectual

reactions) especially during the period of Rahu.

It is interesting to note that

Rahu is qualified as "Son of Simhika" here, by Sage Garga who lived around BC

1400. It is evident that the story of Simhika present in Bhagavata purana,

Ramayana etc was well known even during that far ancient period of Garga. Who

is Rahu personified, let us have an introduction –

"Rahu

was born to Simhika and Viprachitti. Rahu's mother simhika (also known as

Simhita) was the daughter of Hiranyakashyapa (Bhakta Prahlada's father). There

are several brothers to Rahu and they are Salya, Nabha, Vaataapi, Ilvala and

Namuchi. It is also believed that Rahu is the eldest of the 100 brothers. He

also has a sister by name Maahishmati.Born into paithenasa gotra, He was born

in the year parthiva (Rakshasa –in some other books) in bhaadrapada maasa,

krishna paksha on the fourteenth day of the wanning moon on a Sunday. Two days

before NAVRATRI. Visakha is his birth star."

Interesting! All these info must

have very old connotations and meaning – but this is not the space to discuss

that. Rahu is a naga (snake), Mahishmati is the name of the ancient city of NagasIndia

from north to south with centers of excellence such as Takshasila, Mahishmati etc. The mention of Simhika as mother of Rahu

by Garga indicate that by the time of Garga itself such stories and the cult of

Nagas where firmly in place and well popular throughout India.

If Rahu signify the Naga cult then certainly Salya,

Nabha, Vaataapi, Ilvala and Namuchi etc also much have belonged to this Naga

tradition itself. Historians may probe

more in to the possibilities of such references.

present in Madhya Pradesh. In short the whole story seems to have some

connection with the history of Naga cult that spread throughout

Since the "story telling" does

not help us astrologers much in deriving the results or fruitfully

understanding the methodologies defined by our ancestors let us move on and see

what other sages has to tell about the placement of Rahu in 9H. But before that

one more point about the above quote of Garga –

If Rahu in 9th (in the dasa of Rahu)

causes the native to follow a degenerated religion: This means that the

native took birth not in that low religion, he was not a follower of that

low religion in the past. But during that dasa of Rahu, he will change

religion and will join a low and degenerated religious system and will

follow it! This is important, note it. Rahu in 9th certainly

indicate a change in religious order followed by the native – usually to a

negative effect.He will not maintain truth and cleanliness: This

means that the native was man who used to give good value to truth and

religion. It was that just the onslaught of the period of Rahu, forced the

native to drop all that circumstance.Rahu in 9th indicates the native slow

intellect: No- it is not so. If Rahu is in 9th then it

indicates that the native had excellent intellect, but the onset of Rahu

dasa will decrease that glory one by one so as to leave only the aged skelton

of the original might.

It is

interesting to see the true result of Rahu in 9th from both the

sides; it is interesting when we see both sides of the coin. Just by seeing

that above quote of Garga we should not erroneously assume that – if Rahu is in

9th the native will not be intelligent, if will not be lucky and he

will not be truthful. It is not so; the native would be intelligent, lucky and truthful

originally. It is just that Rahu will change that all a bit. This is the very

reason Chamatkara chintamani comes up with a quote that reflects the positive

nature of Rahu, as if totally contradicting Garga hora for the untrained eyes. As

per Chamatkara chintamani –

Maneeshi kritam na tyajet bandhu

vargam

Sada palayet poojitaH syad gunaiH

swaiH

Samadyotako yasya chet tritrikone

TamaH kautuki devatheerthe

dayaluH

(Chamatkara

Chintamani)

[if Rahu is in 9th house,

then the native would be very intelligent. He will have many good qualities (such

as truthfulness, cleanliness etc), and due his good qualities people will

respect him. He will be popular and rewarded in public functions. He would be

interested in visiting places of worship and temples (and would be religious).

He will be always ready to help his relatives]

Note the drastic difference

between this and the above results told by Garga. When it come to practical

application, what Chamatkara Chintamani states is the general results that

should be attributed to the native "before Rahu dasa", if Rahu is placed in 9th

in his horoscope. But what Garga states is the result that should be attributed

to the period "Rahudasa itself". What ever Chamatkara Chintamani states is

actually inherent in the words of Garga itself – it is just that Chamatkara

Chintamani makes it verbose.

A fact that we see about the Sage

quotes and Rishi horas is that – usually they are NOT interested in stating the

results everybody knows. There attention is directed towards things that

everybody may not see in a glance, things we may miss. With brevity of words,

but with deep understanding they guide us and ensure that- we may not miss those

specialties.

For example let us see what Sage

Bhrigu has to say about the placement of Rahu in 9th house. As per

Bhrigu sutra –

PutraheenaH sudrastree sambhogi

sevaka dharmaheenaH (Bhrigu Sutra)

[if Rahu is in 9th house,

the native may not have a son, he will engage in sex with the low grade women, will

become a servant to others, and will not have a proper religious system to

follow]

The native may not have a son:

Why? Because Rahu is a malefic and placed in 5th from 5thth house (house of children) and

that is why the derivation no children or no son. This is a result derived

based on the principle of Bhavat Bhava.

causing negative effect to the 5

He will engage in sex with low

grade women: Why? Because 9th house indicate 3rd from 7th

– i.e. servants or helpers of his wife. Rahu's influence in Lagna (Rahu aspects

5th from 9th, i.e. lagna?) is more in lagna especially when placed

in 9th house.

He will become a servant to

others: Why? Because Rahu is the

significator of lying, cheating, aged, servants, who pass through a bad phase

of life.

He will not have a proper

religion to follow: Why? True religion and spirituality always comes from with

in. But when lie, prejudice, ego, and the bad phase of life takes the upper

hand – we start lying more, start depending on wrong gurus and wrong religious

orders; we may change religion and may fall into bad company. So the advice is that extra care should be

taken to avoid any such mishaps during this period.

Here too the results indicated by

Bhrigu is to be applied in Rahu dasa itself and not in a general sense.

==================================Love and regards,

Sreenadh

, "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Sunita ji,> I will try to provide a detailed reply possibly by tomorrow - about> "Rahu in 9H"> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , Sunita Joshi> sunita_joshi07@ wrote:> >> > Respected Sreenadhji,> > Pranam. Very valuable knowledge you gave us. I am learning "Vedic> Jyotish". Sir, give detail knowledge about rahu situtated in 9th bhav.> It is Dharma bhav. Rahu will give adverse effect on education, dharma,> father. Please write on this. Thanks with regards,> > Yours sincerely ,> > --SUNITA -->

July 14, 2009

Dear Bhagavati ji, Please refer to message no: /message/22454Love and regards,Sreenadh , "bhagavathi_hariharan" <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote:>> > Dear discussing members,> > I am not very active these days. However, ths post caught my attention-> > // 9th house for rahu is its MKS (maran karak sthan) ,unles if the> cancellation of this MKS awastha isnt happening,Rahu will delivery very> inauspicious results//> > could you tell me how the cancellation of this avastha occurs. I am not> familiar with this and I have not heard of this before.> > // He wont stay with his family and if he stays there wont too much> harmony between him and family members.....It wiil make native very> deceptive,one who will always speak lies and also a sort of traitor..//> > I have rahu in 9th in kumbha, running this dasha, currently in the fag> end. As far as I know, I am not known to be deceptive, traitor or a> liar. I am not saying I am a satyavadi, I have told lies ocasionally for> fun, those are white lies. It is true I live away from home and family,> but my weekly phone bills are too high- so I have ties with everyone> > // Respected Sreenadhji,> > Pranam. Very valuable knowledge you gave us. I am learning "Vedic> Jyotish". Sir, give detail knowledge about rahu situtated in 9th bhav.> It is Dharma bhav. Rahu will give adverse effect on education, dharma,> father. //> > It has not affected my dharma at all. Regarding education, have many> academic degrees and diplomas, still going steady in education, plan to> get atleast two more degrees. Father died in peace. Could have been nice> if he lived more. But that is destiny, all born have to die. How long> can a person live?> > bhagavathi>

July 14, 2009

Dear Sreenadh-ji,

Beautifully put with reference from classics.

However, there is one thing that is not being considered by this placement

analysis - the zodiac sign (and the strength of the planet).

Rahu in the 9th. house in Sagittarius and Rahu is the 9th. house in Aquarius

will absolutely not the give the same results. Aquarius is co-ruled by Rahu and

there would you put the rule of Rahu in the 9th. house or the rule of the 9th.

Lord in the 9th. house?

Let us remember that the same Parasara who gave the dictum of Marana Karaka

Sthana for Saturn in the 1st. house and Mars in the 7th. house also mentioned

Sasa and Ruchaka Yoga (Pancha Maha Purusha Yoga) for placement of these natural

malefics in kendras (1st. and 7th. are kendras) in the their own/exaltation

signs.

So, Saturn in Aries in 1H is in MKS position and so is Saturn in Libra in 1H.

However, the later gives a Maha Purusha Yoga while the former doesn't (may give

other yogas though).

Regards

Souvik

, " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Sunita ji,

> Here goes my reply, hope you will like it.

> ==================================

>

> Rahu in 9th House

>

> Rahu is a malefic planet and when placed in 9th we may expect it to

> hinder the luck of the native, deprives him of good gurus, fade his

> vision about true spirituality, cause difficulties to father and so on.

> This is our general feeling and the normal possible derivations. But let

> us see what our sages has to say on this, and what special guidance they

> provide us with. As per Garga, –

>

> NeechadharmanugataH syat satya saucha vivarjitaH

>

> Bhagyaheenascha mandascha dharmage simhika sute

>

> (Garga Hora)

>

> [if Rahu, the son of Simhika, is placed in 9th house, then the native

> would be the follower of a degenerated (or low) religious system. He

> will not maintain truth and cleanliness (during the period of Rahu),

> will be unlucky and slow (especially slow intellect) in everything]

>

> Since 9th indicates Dharma (religion or religious order) that we follow

> – it is natural to expect that is Rahu is present in 9th then the

> native would be a follower of a low or degenerated religious order.

> Similarly since 9H indicates luck, it is natural to conclude that the

> native would be generally unlucky (especially during the period of

> Rahu). 9th house is 5th from 5th house – i.e. intellect from house

> of intellect. Thus is it natural to suppose that the presence of a

> malefic Rahu in 9th should affect the intellect of the native as per

> `Bhavat Bhava' principle and the native would be slow intellect,

> or will feel slowness in everything (including his intellectual

> reactions) especially during the period of Rahu.

>

> It is interesting to note that Rahu is qualified as " Son of

> Simhika " here, by Sage Garga who lived around BC 1400. It is evident

> that the story of Simhika present in Bhagavata purana, Ramayana etc was

> well known even during that far ancient period of Garga. Who is Rahu

> personified, let us have an introduction –

>

> " Rahu was born to Simhika and Viprachitti. Rahu's mother simhika

> (also known as Simhita) was the daughter of Hiranyakashyapa (Bhakta

> Prahlada's father). There are several brothers to Rahu and they are

> Salya, Nabha, Vaataapi, Ilvala and Namuchi. It is also believed that

> Rahu is the eldest of the 100 brothers. He also has a sister by name

> Maahishmati.Born into paithenasa gotra, He was born in the year parthiva

> (Rakshasa –in some other books) in bhaadrapada maasa, krishna paksha

> on the fourteenth day of the wanning moon on a Sunday. Two days before

> NAVRATRI. Visakha is his birth star. "

>

> Interesting! All these info must have very old connotations and meaning

> – but this is not the space to discuss that. Rahu is a naga (snake),

> Mahishmati is the name of the ancient city of NagasIndia from north to

> south with centers of excellence such as Takshasila, Mahishmati etc.

> The mention of Simhika as mother of Rahu by Garga indicate that by the

> time of Garga itself such stories and the cult of Nagas where firmly in

> place and well popular throughout India. If Rahu signify the Naga cult

> then certainly Salya, Nabha, Vaataapi, Ilvala and Namuchi etc also much

> have belonged to this Naga tradition itself. Historians may probe more

> in to the possibilities of such references. present in Madhya Pradesh.

> In short the whole story seems to have some connection with the history

> of Naga cult that spread throughout

>

> Since the " story telling " does not help us astrologers much in

> deriving the results or fruitfully understanding the methodologies

> defined by our ancestors let us move on and see what other sages has to

> tell about the placement of Rahu in 9H. But before that one more point

> about the above quote of Garga –

>

> * If Rahu in 9th (in the dasa of Rahu) causes the native to

> follow a degenerated religion: This means that the native took

> birth not in that low religion, he was not a follower of that low

> religion in the past. But during that dasa of Rahu, he will change

> religion and will join a low and degenerated religious system and will

> follow it! This is important, note it. Rahu in 9th certainly

> indicate a change in religious order followed by the native –

> usually to a negative effect.

> * He will not maintain truth and cleanliness: This means that

> the native was man who used to give good value to truth and

> religion. It was that just the onslaught of the period of Rahu, forced

> the native to drop all that circumstance.

> * Rahu in 9th indicates the native slow intellect: No- it is not

> so. If Rahu is in 9th then it indicates that the native had

> excellent intellect, but the onset of Rahu dasa will decrease that

> glory one by one so as to leave only the aged skelton of the

> original might.

>

> It is interesting to see the true result of Rahu in 9th from both the

> sides; it is interesting when we see both sides of the coin. Just by

> seeing that above quote of Garga we should not erroneously assume that

> – if Rahu is in 9th the native will not be intelligent, if will not

> be lucky and he will not be truthful. It is not so; the native would be

> intelligent, lucky and truthful originally. It is just that Rahu will

> change that all a bit. This is the very reason Chamatkara chintamani

> comes up with a quote that reflects the positive nature of Rahu, as if

> totally contradicting Garga hora for the untrained eyes. As per

> Chamatkara chintamani –

>

> Maneeshi kritam na tyajet bandhu vargam

>

> Sada palayet poojitaH syad gunaiH swaiH

>

> Samadyotako yasya chet tritrikone

>

> TamaH kautuki devatheerthe dayaluH

>

> (Chamatkara Chintamani)

>

> [if Rahu is in 9th house, then the native would be very intelligent. He

> will have many good qualities (such as truthfulness, cleanliness etc),

> and due his good qualities people will respect him. He will be popular

> and rewarded in public functions. He would be interested in visiting

> places of worship and temples (and would be religious). He will be

> always ready to help his relatives]

>

> Note the drastic difference between this and the above results told by

> Garga. When it come to practical application, what Chamatkara Chintamani

> states is the general results that should be attributed to the native

> " before Rahu dasa " , if Rahu is placed in 9th in his horoscope.

> But what Garga states is the result that should be attributed to the

> period " Rahudasa itself " . What ever Chamatkara Chintamani states

> is actually inherent in the words of Garga itself – it is just that

> Chamatkara Chintamani makes it verbose.

>

> A fact that we see about the Sage quotes and Rishi horas is that –

> usually they are NOT interested in stating the results everybody knows.

> There attention is directed towards things that everybody may not see in

> a glance, things we may miss. With brevity of words, but with deep

> understanding they guide us and ensure that- we may not miss those

> specialties.

>

> For example let us see what Sage Bhrigu has to say about the placement

> of Rahu in 9th house. As per Bhrigu sutra –

>

> PutraheenaH sudrastree sambhogi sevaka dharmaheenaH (Bhrigu Sutra)

>

> [if Rahu is in 9th house, the native may not have a son, he will engage

> in sex with the low grade women, will become a servant to others, and

> will not have a proper religious system to follow]

>

> The native may not have a son: Why? Because Rahu is a malefic and placed

> in 5th from 5thth house (house of children) and that is why the

> derivation no children or no son. This is a result derived based on the

> principle of Bhavat Bhava. causing negative effect to the 5

>

> He will engage in sex with low grade women: Why? Because 9th house

> indicate 3rd from 7th – i.e. servants or helpers of his wife.

> Rahu's influence in Lagna (Rahu aspects 5th from 9th, i.e. lagna?)

> is more in lagna especially when placed in 9th house.

>

> He will become a servant to others: Why? Because Rahu is the

> significator of lying, cheating, aged, servants, who pass through a bad

> phase of life.

>

> He will not have a proper religion to follow: Why? True religion and

> spirituality always comes from with in. But when lie, prejudice, ego,

> and the bad phase of life takes the upper hand – we start lying

> more, start depending on wrong gurus and wrong religious orders; we may

> change religion and may fall into bad company. So the advice is that

> extra care should be taken to avoid any such mishaps during this period.

>

> Here too the results indicated by Bhrigu is to be applied in Rahu dasa

> itself and not in a general sense.

>

> ==================================

>

> Love and regards,

>

> Sreenadh

>

> , " Sreenadh "

> <sreesog@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sunita ji,

> > I will try to provide a detailed reply possibly by tomorrow - about

> > " Rahu in 9H "

> > Love and regards,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> > , Sunita Joshi

> > sunita_joshi07@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Sreenadhji,

> > > Pranam. Very valuable knowledge you gave us. I am learning

> " Vedic

> > Jyotish " . Sir, give detail knowledge about rahu situtated in 9th bhav.

> > It is Dharma bhav. Rahu will give adverse effect on education, dharma,

> > father. Please write on this. Thanks with regards,

> > > Yours sincerely ,

> > > --SUNITA --

> >

>

July 15, 2009

Dear Sreenadh ji,

You have did good interpretation about Rahu in 9th but i expecting more from you

to open all the folds of Rahu.I hope you will consider it in coming future to

take more on Rahu.

//He will engage in sex with low grade women: Why? Because 9th house indicate

3rd from 7th – i.e. servants or helpers of his wife. Rahu's influence in Lagna

(Rahu aspects 5th from 9th, i.e. lagna?) is more in lagna especially when placed

in 9th house. //

It means in female chart Rahu in 9th house not give the bad result as stated

above in yours interpretation for Rahu in9th house ?

I would like to add more, " Shani vat Rahu " means Rahu is like Saturn and gives

the result as like Saturn but Rahu have a special quality which is not in

Saturn.Rahu gives the result suddenly,if Rahu occupied in 2nd,5th,,9th and 11th

house and their respective lord in " Kendra " with strength they will gives the

money suddenly without any expectations.

Saturn in 9th house gives the interest in spirituality Rahu will also give the

same result.Person will become more religious or develop interest in religious

matter, if Saturn/Rahu in 9th.

Rahu is 'Chhaya' planet he gives the result as per his house lord if lord of

house is benefice by placement,by aspect and creating any 'Raj-Yog " than in the

period of Rahu Dasa Rahu will gives the result of Raj-Yog and if the all

position are revers than he will gives bad result in his period of Dasa-Bhukti.

If Rahu will involve with 6th,8th house lord and influence the 2nd house or lord

of 2nd house than he will bad for Bank Balance.

If anywhere i am wrong than correct me.

Thanks,

M.S.Bohra

July 15, 2009

Sreenadhji,

Here is my reply to your message 22454. Too long, I must admire your patience

Rahu in 9th House

Rahu is a malefic planet and when placed in 9th we may expect it to hinder the luck of the native, deprives him of good gurus, fade his vision about true spirituality, cause difficulties to father and so on. This is our general feeling and the normal possible derivations. But let us see what our sages has to say on this, and what special guidance they provide us with. As per Garga, –

NeechadharmanugataH syat satya saucha vivarjitaH

Bhagyaheenascha mandascha dharmage simhika sute

(Garga Hora)

[if Rahu, the son of Simhika, is placed in 9th house, then the native would be the follower of a degenerated (or low) religious system. He will not maintain truth and cleanliness (during the period of Rahu), will be unlucky and slow (especially slow intellect) in everything]

Since 9th indicates Dharma (religion or religious order) that we follow – it is natural to expect that is Rahu is present in 9th then the native would be a follower of a low or degenerated religious order. Similarly since 9H indicates luck, it is natural to conclude that the native would be generally unlucky (especially during the period of Rahu). 9th house is 5th from 5th house – i.e. intellect from house of intellect. Thus is it natural to suppose that the presence of a malefic Rahu in 9th should affect the intellect of the native as per `Bhavat Bhava' principle and the native would be slow intellect, or will feel slowness in everything (including his intellectual reactions) especially during the period of Rahu.

In my case, the effect it gave was opposite- I mentioned earlier I never drifted from brahminism. "Unlucky"- can be accepted but amidst all that unluck, I did see a silver lining everytime. Basically, I am a very contentended person. I see happiness in even small and insignificant things. So luck/unluck did not matter much to me. "Manda", if translated literally would mean lethargic .The verse does not mention "mandabuddhi". Nevertheless, I was neither lethargic (have been working 6AM to 12PM, all through my life so far). I am a tremendous fast person. I was always involved in intellectual professions, have also got enough recognitions

If Rahu in 9th (in the dasa of Rahu) causes the native to follow a degenerated religion: This means that the native took birth not in that low religion, he was not a follower of that low religion in the past. But during that dasa of Rahu, he will change religion and will join a low and degenerated religious system and will follow it! This is important, note it. Rahu in 9th certainly indicate a change in religious order followed by the native – usually to a negative effect.

I mentioned already- I did not change any religion- same Iyer, Yes of course gothram got changed after marriage!!!!!

He will not maintain truth and cleanliness: This means that the native was man who used to give good value to truth and religion. It was that just the onslaught of the period of Rahu, forced the native to drop all that circumstance.

Nope, not true

Rahu in 9th indicates the native slow intellect: No- it is not so. If Rahu is in 9th then it indicates that the native had excellent intellect, but the onset of Rahu dasa will decrease that glory one by one so as to leave only the aged skelton of the original might.

Onset of Rahu gave me many degrees an diplomas, all in intellectual professions. In fact increased my intellect to a greater degree.

As per Chamatkara chintamani –

Maneeshi kritam na tyajet bandhu vargam

Sada palayet poojitaH syad gunaiH swaiH

Samadyotako yasya chet tritrikone

TamaH kautuki devatheerthe dayaluH

(Chamatkara Chintamani)

[if Rahu is in 9th house, then the native would be very intelligent. He will have many good qualities (such as truthfulness, cleanliness etc), and due his good qualities people will respect him. He will be popular and rewarded in public functions. He would be interested in visiting places of worship and temples (and would be religious). He will be always ready to help his relatives]

100% true in my case. I was not rewarded in public functions but did become popular in a big city for intellectual work.

Note the drastic difference between this and the above results told by Garga. When it come to practical application, what Chamatkara Chintamani states is the general results that should be attributed to the native "before Rahu dasa", if Rahu is placed in 9th in his horoscope. But what Garga states is the result that should be attributed to the period "Rahudasa itself". What ever Chamatkara Chintamani states is actually inherent in the words of Garga itself – it is just that Chamatkara Chintamani makes it verbose.

So the take home is, in my case chamtkara chintamani has attributed during the dasha. Garga Hora did not apply during the dasha (Note: before rahu dasha, mars and moon- bestowed lot of awards of merit for me)

As per Bhrigu sutra –

PutraheenaH sudrastree sambhogi sevaka dharmaheenaH (Bhrigu Sutra)

[if Rahu is in 9th house, the native may not have a son, he will engage in sex with the low grade women, will become a servant to others, and will not have a proper religious system to follow]

The native may not have a son: Why? Because Rahu is a malefic and placed in 5th from 5thth house (house of children) and that is why the derivation no children or no son. This is a result derived based on the principle of Bhavat Bhava. causing negative effect to the 5

He will engage in sex with low grade women: Why? Because 9th house indicate 3rd from 7th – i.e. servants or helpers of his wife. Rahu's influence in Lagna (Rahu aspects 5th from 9th, i.e. lagna?) is more in lagna especially when placed in 9th house.

He will become a servant to others: Why? Because Rahu is the significator of lying, cheating, aged, servants, who pass through a bad phase of life.

He will not have a proper religion to follow: Why? True religion and spirituality always comes from with in. But when lie, prejudice, ego, and the bad phase of life takes the upper hand – we start lying more, start depending on wrong gurus and wrong religious orders; we may change religion and may fall into bad company. So the advice is that extra care should be taken to avoid any such mishaps during this period.

//Here too the results indicated by Bhrigu is to be applied in Rahu dasa itself and not in a general sense. //

Ok, applying rahu in 9th indicated by bhrigu duirng my rahu dasha- God did blessed me with son during this dasha. Again religion has not declined or changed. I never had to become anybody's servant (because I am my own master!!). Regarding sex with low grade women, does not apply to me. I am married to the same man. Rahu is a planet for attraction. I did appear attractive to many all through this dasha, (even now). I have passed 17 years of this dasha , now that is not my problem!!!!

I appreciate if you can give me a reference as to where it states that during a dasha a particular classic applies and before the dasha another classic applies

Regards,

bhagavathi

July 15, 2009

Bohraji,

You have addressed to Sreenadhji, still I would like to reply because I am a

female. You can also read my response to Sreenadhji.

//He will engage in sex with low grade women: Why? Because 9th house indicate

3rd from 7th – i.e. servants or helpers of his wife. Rahu's influence in Lagna

(Rahu aspects 5th from 9th, i.e. lagna?) is more in lagna especially when placed

in 9th house. //

It means in female chart Rahu in 9th house not give the bad result as stated

above in yours interpretation for Rahu in9th house ?

True. In my case although there were options for many relationships, nothing

could happen because of being a woman and desha kala patra

//I would like to add more, " Shani vat Rahu " means Rahu is like Saturn and gives

the result as like Saturn but Rahu have a special quality which is not in

Saturn.Rahu gives the result suddenly,if Rahu occupied in 2nd,5th,,9th and 11th

house and their respective lord in " Kendra " with strength they will gives the

money suddenly without any expectations.//

Yes, I did get sudden money many times during this period

// Saturn in 9th house gives the interest in spirituality Rahu will also give

the same result.Person will become more religious or develop interest in

religious matter, if Saturn/Rahu in 9th. Rahu is 'Chhaya' planet he gives the

result as per his house lord if lord of house is benefice by placement,by aspect

and creating any 'Raj-Yog " than in the period of Rahu Dasa Rahu will gives the

result of Raj-Yog and if the all position are revers than he will gives bad

result in his period of Dasa-Bhukti.//

Religious part is true. Rahu/rahu period was excellent.

// If Rahu will involve with 6th,8th house lord and influence the 2nd house or

lord of 2nd house than he will bad for Bank Balance.//

Now my Rahu is in 9th for mithuna lagna, so it is involved with 8th lord,

aspected by mars who is the 6th lord. My bank balance became zero in

Rahu/Sun.(But since I am a female, I got money through othe family members. so

sometimes it helps to be a woman!!) My Sun is in the nakshatra of moon, my 2nd

house lord. So you get a full credit.

// If anywhere i am wrong than correct me.//

This is one of the best analysis that I can expect from a learned person. I have

already saved this in my treasure box. There are no avenues open for any

correction.

My respects to you

bhagavathi

July 15, 2009

Dear Sreenadh ji,Beautiful article. If I may say so, how rahu would behave is something that is difficult to predict as it is said he magnifies.. How about treating all of us to a compact article on the nodes in different houses if I am not asking too much.??????

Regards,

Anita--- On Tue, 14/7/09, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

Sreenadh <sreesog Re: Rahu_ 9H Date: Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 8:11 PM

Dear Sunita ji, Here goes my reply, hope you will like it. ============ ========= ========= ====

Rahu in 9th House

Rahu is a malefic planet and when placed in 9th we may expect it to hinder the luck of the native, deprives him of good gurus, fade his vision about true spirituality, cause difficulties to father and so on. This is our general feeling and the normal possible derivations. But let us see what our sages has to say on this, and what special guidance they provide us with. As per Garga, â€“

NeechadharmanugataH syat satya saucha vivarjitaH

Bhagyaheenascha mandascha dharmage simhika sute

(Garga Hora)

[if Rahu, the son of Simhika, is placed in 9th house, then the native would be the follower of a degenerated (or low) religious system. He will not maintain truth and cleanliness (during the period of Rahu), will be unlucky and slow (especially slow intellect) in everything]

Since 9th indicates Dharma (religion or religious order) that we follow â€“ it is natural to expect that is Rahu is present in 9th then the native would be a follower of a low or degenerated religious order. Similarly since 9H indicates luck, it is natural to conclude that the native would be generally unlucky (especially during the period of Rahu). 9th house is 5th from 5th house â€“ i.e. intellect from house of intellect. Thus is it natural to suppose that the presence of a malefic Rahu in 9th should affect the intellect of the native as per `Bhavat Bhava' principle and the native would be slow intellect, or will feel slowness in everything (including his intellectual reactions) especially during the period of Rahu.

It is interesting to note that Rahu is qualified as "Son of Simhika" here, by Sage Garga who lived around BC 1400. It is evident that the story of Simhika present in Bhagavata purana, Ramayana etc was well known even during that far ancient period of Garga. Who is Rahu personified, let us have an introduction â€“

"Rahu was born to Simhika and Viprachitti. Rahu's mother simhika (also known as Simhita) was the daughter of Hiranyakashyapa (Bhakta Prahlada's father). There are several brothers to Rahu and they are Salya, Nabha, Vaataapi, Ilvala and Namuchi. It is also believed that Rahu is the eldest of the 100 brothers. He also has a sister by name Maahishmati. Born into paithenasa gotra, He was born in the year parthiva (Rakshasa â€“in some other books) in bhaadrapada maasa, krishna paksha on the fourteenth day of the wanning moon on a Sunday. Two days before NAVRATRI. Visakha is his birth star."

Interesting! All these info must have very old connotations and meaning â€“ but this is not the space to discuss that. Rahu is a naga (snake), Mahishmati is the name of the ancient city of Nagas India from north to south with centers of excellence such as Takshasila, Mahishmati etc. The mention of Simhika as mother of Rahu by Garga indicate that by the time of Garga itself such stories and the cult of Nagas where firmly in place and well popular throughout India . If Rahu signify the Naga cult then certainly Salya, Nabha, Vaataapi, Ilvala and Namuchi etc also much have belonged to this Naga tradition itself. Historians may probe more in to the possibilities of such references. present in Madhya Pradesh. In short the whole story seems to have some connection

with the history of Naga cult that spread throughout

Since the "story telling" does not help us astrologers much in deriving the results or fruitfully understanding the methodologies defined by our ancestors let us move on and see what other sages has to tell about the placement of Rahu in 9H. But before that one more point about the above quote of Garga â€“

If Rahu in 9th (in the dasa of Rahu) causes the native to follow a degenerated religion: This means that the native took birth not in that low religion, he was not a follower of that low religion in the past. But during that dasa of Rahu, he will change religion and will join a low and degenerated religious system and will follow it! This is important, note it. Rahu in 9th certainly indicate a change in religious order followed by the native â€“ usually to a negative effect.

He will not maintain truth and cleanliness: This means that the native was man who used to give good value to truth and religion. It was that just the onslaught of the period of Rahu, forced the native to drop all that circumstance.

Rahu in 9th indicates the native slow intellect: No- it is not so. If Rahu is in 9th then it indicates that the native had excellent intellect, but the onset of Rahu dasa will decrease that glory one by one so as to leave only the aged skelton of the original might.

It is interesting to see the true result of Rahu in 9th from both the sides; it is interesting when we see both sides of the coin. Just by seeing that above quote of Garga we should not erroneously assume that â€“ if Rahu is in 9th the native will not be intelligent, if will not be lucky and he will not be truthful. It is not so; the native would be intelligent, lucky and truthful originally. It is just that Rahu will change that all a bit. This is the very reason Chamatkara chintamani comes up with a quote that reflects the positive nature of Rahu, as if totally contradicting Garga hora for the untrained eyes. As per Chamatkara chintamani â€“

Maneeshi kritam na tyajet bandhu vargam

Sada palayet poojitaH syad gunaiH swaiH

Samadyotako yasya chet tritrikone

TamaH kautuki devatheerthe dayaluH

(Chamatkara Chintamani)

[if Rahu is in 9th house, then the native would be very intelligent. He will have many good qualities (such as truthfulness, cleanliness etc), and due his good qualities people will respect him. He will be popular and rewarded in public functions. He would be interested in visiting places of worship and temples (and would be religious). He will be always ready to help his relatives]

Note the drastic difference between this and the above results told by Garga. When it come to practical application, what Chamatkara Chintamani states is the general results that should be attributed to the native "before Rahu dasa", if Rahu is placed in 9th in his horoscope. But what Garga states is the result that should be attributed to the period "Rahudasa itself". What ever Chamatkara Chintamani states is actually inherent in the words of Garga itself â€“ it is just that Chamatkara Chintamani makes it verbose.

A fact that we see about the Sage quotes and Rishi horas is that â€“ usually they are NOT interested in stating the results everybody knows. There attention is directed towards things that everybody may not see in a glance, things we may miss. With brevity of words, but with deep understanding they guide us and ensure that- we may not miss those specialties.

For example let us see what Sage Bhrigu has to say about the placement of Rahu in 9th house. As per Bhrigu sutra â€“

PutraheenaH sudrastree sambhogi sevaka dharmaheenaH (Bhrigu Sutra)

[if Rahu is in 9th house, the native may not have a son, he will engage in sex with the low grade women, will become a servant to others, and will not have a proper religious system to follow]

The native may not have a son: Why? Because Rahu is a malefic and placed in 5th from 5thth house (house of children) and that is why the derivation no children or no son. This is a result derived based on the principle of Bhavat Bhava. causing negative effect to the 5

He will engage in sex with low grade women: Why? Because 9th house indicate 3rd from 7th â€“ i.e. servants or helpers of his wife. Rahu's influence in Lagna (Rahu aspects 5th from 9th, i.e. lagna?) is more in lagna especially when placed in 9th house.

He will become a servant to others: Why? Because Rahu is the significator of lying, cheating, aged, servants, who pass through a bad phase of life.

He will not have a proper religion to follow: Why? True religion and spirituality always comes from with in. But when lie, prejudice, ego, and the bad phase of life takes the upper hand â€“ we start lying more, start depending on wrong gurus and wrong religious orders; we may change religion and may fall into bad company. So the advice is that extra care should be taken to avoid any such mishaps during this period.

Here too the results indicated by Bhrigu is to be applied in Rahu dasa itself and not in a general sense.

============ ========= ========= ====

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Sunita ji,> I will try to provide a detailed reply possibly by tomorrow - about> "Rahu in 9H"> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunita Joshi> sunita_joshi07@ wrote:> >> > Respected Sreenadhji,> > Pranam. Very valuable knowledge you gave us. I am learning "Vedic> Jyotish". Sir, give detail knowledge about rahu situtated in 9th bhav.> It is Dharma bhav. Rahu will give adverse effect on education, dharma,> father. Please write on this. Thanks with regards,> > Yours sincerely ,> > --SUNITA -->

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July 15, 2009

Dear Sreenadh ji,

congrats.You really came out with the scripptures.Not only sunita ji but

everybody will like it.

//Note the drastic difference between this and the above results told by

Garga. When it come to practical application, what Chamatkara Chintamani

states is the general results that should be attributed to the native

" before Rahu dasa " , if Rahu is placed in 9th in his horoscope. But what

Garga states is the result that should be attributed to the period

" Rahudasa itself " . What ever Chamatkara Chintamani states is actually

inherent in the words of Garga itself – it is just that Chamatkara

Chintamani makes it verbose. //

Just for ur quote above i am giving below my uncle's birth details for

practical purpose 4those who are interested.

He is alive and retired from medical practice.a gentleman to the core

and appreciated by many as DIVINE DOCTOR.

He had guruchandal yoga in 9th.Had 2 sons and no daughter.He is just as

CHAMATKARA CHINTAMANI SAYS BUT NO WHERE NEAR TO GARGA.May be because

Rahu is with Guru in Guru's mooltrikona!!....

D.O.B...23-4-1936

T.OB.....5.24HRS

P.O.B....GUNTUR(A.P)INDIA

REGARDS,

gopi.

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Sunita ji,

> Here goes my reply, hope you will like it.

> ==================================

>

> Rahu in 9th House

>

> Rahu is a malefic planet and when placed in 9th we may expect it to

> hinder the luck of the native, deprives him of good gurus, fade his

> vision about true spirituality, cause difficulties to father and so

on.

> This is our general feeling and the normal possible derivations. But

let

> us see what our sages has to say on this, and what special guidance

they

> provide us with. As per Garga, –

>

> NeechadharmanugataH syat satya saucha vivarjitaH

>

> Bhagyaheenascha mandascha dharmage simhika sute

>

> (Garga Hora)

>

> [if Rahu, the son of Simhika, is placed in 9th house, then the native

> would be the follower of a degenerated (or low) religious system. He

> will not maintain truth and cleanliness (during the period of Rahu),

> will be unlucky and slow (especially slow intellect) in everything]

>

> Since 9th indicates Dharma (religion or religious order) that we

follow