what lagna should be taken for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree

July 11, 2009

Dear Vijay Goel ji,

//So both factors indicate that i am not wrong and tauras lagna is working.

The only thing is that i have not made comparison of all the divisional

chart for Aries and Tauras lagna due to time constriant.//

I do not agree, in fact, on the contrary I see Aries rising closer. Just by

looking at transits one cannot conclude. In any case double transit on any

of the 4 factors becomes too general and cannot be used as conclusive

evidence unless seen through natal and dasha promise, as well as vargas.

//Also this result was matching with Bhaskerji results.//

How? I do not see again. He also derived Aries lagna I think.

I apologise for seeking these clarifications from you. This is a part of

learning process for myself.

Regards

Neelam

July 11, 2009

Dear Neelam Ji,

Thanks for the detailed analysis. My main teacher has always told me that results are secondary, correctness off predictions are secondary, correctness of methods is primary. I strongly believe if we keep applying the dictums carefully and correctly, eventually accurate predictions will be the natural outcome.

Regards,

-Manoj

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 3:35:45 AMRe: Re: what lagna should be taken for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree

Dear All,KNRâ€™s book Planets and Children, indicates the following rules to assess the childbirth and correctness of horoscopes.Dasha check (page 37)In 60 per cent of the cases, child birth takes place in the mahadasha-antardash a of planets connected with Lagna/LL, 5H/5L or 9H/9L.Transit results (page 7) Check for 5H/5L and 9H/9L

Saturn and Jupiter should aspect one or more of the above 4 points within 9 months of the birth.

Mars shouldâ€™ve aspected within 75 days

Moon within 72 hrs.There are two important additional points here:1. The above are very general (can work several times in life) so one must read the important note on page 36, where he says that Navamsha, Saptamsha must be examined in the light of Mahadasha. But that has not been dealt with in Planets and Children. (page 14, as per his mother's instructions) )2. Most important which keeps mentioning again and again:We must not jump to these methods without ascertaining the natal promise. From natal chart itself, a lot of correction can be done.I have tried to tabulate the natal promise, dasha and transit results, as well as varga positions for mahadashnath for the two lagnas and to see the comparative situation regarding the two child births.Presenting the table and you are free to draw your own

conclusions. I have also marked my inferences as remarks alongside. Hope this will not get distorted in posting and be of some use.

Event

Description

Aries

Taurus

Remarks

Natal Promise

5H/5L/9H/9L

5L aspected by mars and sat, but 5H has aspect of 9L jup from 9H. Jup aspects LL/5 and rahu who is like a RYK in 5H

5L in 6H with LL, 5H asp by 7/12L mars and 9/10 lord sat from 8H, 5H has separator sun lord of 4H disposits Rahu. Karak Jup is 8/12 L in 8H. 5H has no benefic aspect

Aries stronger to give quick results regarding children.

Taurus shows problem/delay in having children

D-9

9H Sagi rising, mars 5L in 4H in PAC with natal 5L, in Kendra. 5H in r/K axis, tough having YK mer.

9H Cp rising, LL in 9H, 5L in 6H aspected by mars and sat, 5H has 3/12 lord in 5H. 5L of D1 in r/k axis

Not much difference

D-7

Strong with libra rising, 5L/LL conjunct in 7H, exchange of 1/7 lords

Though 5L Saturn is debilitated, it is in Kendra and with venus.

Sc rising, mars in 12H, karak and 5L Jup deb in r/k axis, mars and sat asp weak 5L Jup, 5L, mer of D-1 deb in 5H.

Saptamsha strong in aries indicating early arrival of children.

For Taurus, D-7 indicates problems in childbirth and medical/remedial intervention required, if he has to get children

First Childbirth

Dasha

Ve-Su

MD aspects lagna, Antar of 5L

Ven with 5L in 6H

Aries stronger

First child - transits16.12.86

Jup in aquSat in sco

Mars in AquMo in gem

Asp 5HAsp 5HAsp 5H/5LAsp 9H/9L

No aspwith 5LAsp 5Hhas aspected 9L

Aries much stronger

Satamsha

Ve saptamsh LL with D-7 5L, aspecting lagna

Sco rising, ven in 6H asp mars in 12H

Aries stronger

Navamsha

5L of nav mars asp ve and su in kendra

Cap rising, venus 5L in 6H in D-9, asp by sat.

Aries stronger

Second childbirth

Second child

Dasha

Ve-Mo

MD nath asp lagna from 7H, Mo not connected

MD nath with 5L in 6H, moon not connceted

Aries has an edge supporting Kendra positions.

Second child - Transits

21.9.1988

Jup in Tausat in sagiMars in PisMo in Cap

Ju asp 5Lsat in 9H over 9L asp 5LMars asp 5LMoon has just crossed 9H

Jup asp 5H/9HSat asp 5HMars asp 5H/5LMoon over 9H

Both equal

Satamsha

Libra rising

Ven is MDnath

Ve D-7 LL with D-7 5L, aspecting lagna

Ven in 6H with a deb sat asp deb 5L.

Aries stronger

Navamsha

Venus-mo mars-sun-sat form a good aspect relation in Kendra.

Venus in 6H, asp by mars/sat

Weaker placements

Conclusion:We know that the kids came in quickly after marriage. Natal promise of Taurus shows weakness in getting progeny, specially first normal child so soon is not possible for Taurus lagna.

RegardsNeelam

July 11, 2009

Respected Neelamji,

////In any case double transit on any of the 4 factors becomes too general and

cannot be used as conclusive evidence unless seen through natal and dasha

promise, as well as vargas.////

I agree with you so i does not rely only on the above factors only, we have to

cross check the live events of the native with respect to Vargas.

Many times Jatak are unmarried or does not have kids than this method will not

work at all.

I am very sorry as i have to go with family to some function, i will not able to

clarify more.

Thankyou,

Regards,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

, neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Vijay Goel ji,

>

> //So both factors indicate that i am not wrong and tauras lagna is working.

> The only thing is that i have not made comparison of all the divisional

> chart for Aries and Tauras lagna due to time constriant.//

> I do not agree, in fact, on the contrary I see Aries rising closer. Just by

> looking at transits one cannot conclude. In any case double transit on any

> of the 4 factors becomes too general and cannot be used as conclusive

> evidence unless seen through natal and dasha promise, as well as vargas.

>

> //Also this result was matching with Bhaskerji results.//

> How? I do not see again. He also derived Aries lagna I think.

>

> I apologise for seeking these clarifications from you. This is a part of

> learning process for myself.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

July 11, 2009

Dear friends

This is a general statement and does not refer to anybody.

Quarells usually crop up when there are difference in opinion with each other

and both have some point by which they feel their stance is true.This is

understandable.At the maximum one must avoid to pick up quarells.Fighting first

and then asking sorry is a great quality but a time waste escpecially for the

one who wins a fight though his fight will be centered to propagate correct

astrological information and not for his prestige.

The other member who loses the fight should realise and think twice before

fighting.

Following is a personal statement and request to Bhaskarji and Vijay goel Ji

Both of you had difference of opinion regarding which antar will give liquidity

Bhaskarji said moon

Vijayji said Mars

What is the use of fighting for future predictions?Fight was going on using

astrological data as if the event has happened.Only time will tell who is

correct

so please avoid fighting for future predictions when escpecially you cannot give

100% guarantee for your clients

If you can give 100% guarantee ,then i agree you have the right to quarell

regards

Vinoth

, neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Vijay Goel ji,

>

> //So both factors indicate that i am not wrong and tauras lagna is working.

> The only thing is that i have not made comparison of all the divisional

> chart for Aries and Tauras lagna due to time constriant.//

> I do not agree, in fact, on the contrary I see Aries rising closer. Just by

> looking at transits one cannot conclude. In any case double transit on any

> of the 4 factors becomes too general and cannot be used as conclusive

> evidence unless seen through natal and dasha promise, as well as vargas.

>

> //Also this result was matching with Bhaskerji results.//

> How? I do not see again. He also derived Aries lagna I think.

>

> I apologise for seeking these clarifications from you. This is a part of

> learning process for myself.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

July 12, 2009

Dear all,

I thought of sharing an incident. A senior man, member of another group where I

am active wanted a chart reading. He preferred a face to face reading in Jaipur,

where he lived. This man has his own business. He was routed completely

financially. He requested me to suggest soemone. Through groups, I was aware of

Vijayji in Jaipur. This man went to him. Couple of days back, I received an

email from him saying that Vijayji's predictions came true. He also was happy

the way Vijayji treated him.

I do not have permision to discuss his chart. But briefly, I shall give the

prediction as emailed to me by the native

//Respected Bhagavathiji,

I do not wish to share any details in any forum or with anyone. I trust you for

privacy policy.

First, I thank you whole heartedly for refering me to a nice gentleman. He had

predcited that I would get money this time. In brief, this is what he wrote:

Now you are running the antar dasa of vargottama moon in mercury dasha. This

antar will surely give you wealth especially between may to july 09.

It is 100% true. On May 20, I got a new offer from a garment store for my

supply. It is not a big offer as it was in the past but this surely is a relief

from my bad finances.

May Krsna brings peace and comfort in your life ! for reffering me to a good

astrologer

Regards,

#########

Jaipur.

(I have masked the name to conceal identity)

, " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj

wrote:

>

> Respected Bhaskerji,

>

> I am younger brother to you, and i am also 'bit use to' with the attitude of

big brother.

> Your mail only reminded me one great research astrologer Shri H N Katwe, he

was also very very harsh and all his life he was shouting on one and other. He

himself has said this in his books. He even not spared his closest friend who

gave him shelter all his life.

> Interesting story ! ) Since this person was clear heart and a genuine

scholar he wrote his life events in black & white.

>

> Seriously this time your harsh mails does not affected me but only reminded

him and nothing else.

>

> I am here in this forum only to share some astrological experiences and i am

not at all good at teaching and explaining still i am trying my best.

>

> I only know one thing that learning astrology does not comes easily for me.

>

> Thankyou,

> Regards,

> Vijay Goel

> Jaipur.

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vijay Goel ji,

> >

> > I have been a wee bit harsh on you. I am sorry for that. Bade log aise

> > hi hote hain, thode crack, thoda screw dheela and eccentric. Hum tumse

> > pahle chale jayeenge upar, isliye hame maaf kar dena bhai. Hope our love

> > will overcome these puny matters .

> >

> > best wishes,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , " Vijay Goel "

> > <goyalvj@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Bhaskerji,

> > >

> > > You are always respected as an well versed senior KP astrologer.

> > >

> > > It will be a great pleasure for me to have cup of tea with you.

> > >

> > > Thankyou,

> > > Regards,

> > > Vijay Goel

> > > Jaipur.

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vijay ji,

> > > >

> > > > No I was not sure actually whether you are in Jaipur or not. just

> > > > faintly remembered so. So I was confirming that by (?).

> > > >

> > > > Since you have given me your number and address, (I will be putting

> > up

> > > > very near to your address)I will wait for your call to invite me

> > over

> > > > for a cup of tea, but pyaar se bulaoge tab hi bulaana mujhe. Agar

> > logon

> > > > se " Madman " kar ke introduce karna hai, toh Bhai maaf karo.

> > > >

> > > > I hope this episode will be left behind when we meet.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > , " Vijay Goel "

> > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Bhaskarji,

> > > > >

> > > > > your quote :

> > > > > // " I am going to Jaipur (Your location?) " //

> > > > >

> > > > > I am at D-687, Near Gaurav Tower, Malviya Nagar, Jaipur.

> > > > > My phone number is 9214502239.

> > > > >

> > > > > You are warmly welcome at Jaipur. I advise you to visit the Rishi

> > > > Parashar Ashram located near to Sarika National park on Alwar route.

> > > > > It is said that on that place Parashar stayed and done all his

> > works.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thankyou,

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am not convinced by this explanation. What you have given is

> > only

> > > > the

> > > > > > position and placement of the planets and their aspects on each

> > > > other .

> > > > > > Where is the logic part ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As regards to My KP Method. There is nothing like yours and

> > mines.

> > > > KP

> > > > > > has come from Parashari so nothing strange or unknown quality

> > about

> > > > it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Vijay Goel "

> > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > your quote :

> > > > > > > ////when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from

> > > > some

> > > > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now ?

> > This

> > > > is

> > > > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, so

> > that

> > > > > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as the

> > > > logs " .////

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You may be right, ha ha but i have not denied your hard

> > work, i

> > > > > > have given my views based on your conclusion, whats wrong in it?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You find moon antar better, its your KP method; i find mars

> > antar

> > > > > > better in terms of property matter, its my view.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Reasons :

> > > > > > > In D-1 chart :

> > > > > > > Moon is in 3H in karka in papkartari yoga aspected by none.

> > > > > > > In D-9:

> > > > > > > Moon in 12H as 7L aspected by venus as 10L & 5L.

> > > > > > > In D-4 :

> > > > > > > Moon in 9H in papkartari yoga aspected by venus and mercury.

> > Here

> > > > > > position improves for property related matters.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In all three chart, involvement of 4th house is negligible so

> > > > property

> > > > > > related matters will hardly fructify, only in D-4 chart, 2nd

> > house

> > > > is

> > > > > > involved. If we observe moon in D-10 chart than this antar of

> > moon

> > > > will

> > > > > > bring lot of hard work and short travels related to career and

> > > > > > profession.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now look at mars:

> > > > > > > D-1:

> > > > > > > Mars in 2nd house aspected by saturn and jupiter. saturn is

> > > > aspecting

> > > > > > sun the 4L.

> > > > > > > D-9:

> > > > > > > mars is 4L in 3H aspected by saturn (2L) ans sun.

> > > > > > > D-4:

> > > > > > > Mars with jupiter in 8H aspecting 2H and sun as 4L is

> > aspecting

> > > > mars

> > > > > > > from 2H.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In all above chart it is clear that mars has more linkage to

> > 4th

> > > > and

> > > > > > 2H related matters.Hence i find it more appropriate.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ************

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thankyou,

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > > > > If any person want to have any peaceful discussion on this

> > matter

> > > > or

> > > > > > have any doubts he\she can call me on my mobile or email me.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goelji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Shri KN Rao ji has written much. Which of his teachings

> > impies

> > > > that

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > Lagna is Vrishabha and not Mesha.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Why will Moon antardasha not appropriate for selling

> > property ?

> > > > The

> > > > > > > > reasons - Astrological? Why dpo you think that the Mars

> > dasha

> > > > would

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > more beneficial ? The reasons ? - Astrological ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Why are the reasons very simple and need no explanations. I

> > > > cannot

> > > > > > > > understand this simplicity. Can You explain ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > And where were you when all this was discussed uptil now.

> > You

> > > > come

> > > > > > back,

> > > > > > > > when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from

> > some

> > > > > > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now

> > ?

> > > > This

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs,

> > so

> > > > that

> > > > > > > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as the

> > > > logs " .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mars antar is going to be a very malefic period for him .

> > What

> > > > > > rubbish

> > > > > > > > are you talking that it will be beneficial. Do you know even

> > the

> > > > > > basics

> > > > > > > > of astrology ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > After the story of Ramayana has been heard by people, You

> > are

> > > > now

> > > > > > > > talking " I will tell you who is Ram and Sita " .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please explain us what is simple which needs no explanation

> > ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Vijay

> > Goel "

> > > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji Jain,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on the birth

> > > > details

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his various books.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now in your horoscope the antar of moon is running.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Moon MD: 2008-11-17 - 2018-11-17

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Antardasas in this MD:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Moon: 2008-11-17 - 2009-09-17

> > > > > > > > > Mars: 2009-09-17 - 2010-04-18

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > But i don't find Moon antar dasa appropriate for selling

> > of

> > > > > > property,

> > > > > > > > this antar will not fetch you a good buyer instead it will

> > > > create

> > > > > > lot of

> > > > > > > > frustration. I think Mars antar dasa starting from 17th sep

> > 09

> > > > to

> > > > > > 18th

> > > > > > > > april 10 will be more beneficial.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The reasons was very simple and needs no explanation.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thankyou,

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , Anand

> > Jain

> > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Of course, you are not even 100% absolutely right it is

> > > > 1000%

> > > > > > > > correct as there is no other way to create the liquidity.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Myself behind on the matter from last one year but could

> > not

> > > > get

> > > > > > > > appropriate buyer.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > With best of my regards

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Anand Jain

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I will call u tomorrow over phone, u may give me a miss

> > call

> > > > > > > > whenever u hv free time.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > > > > > Re: what lagna

> > should be

> > > > > > taken

> > > > > > > > for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:31 AM

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Anand ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Please confirm whether this liquidity you are looking

> > for,

> > > > is

> > > > > > due

> > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > sale of property or not ? Or any other source. This is

> > to

> > > > > > confirm

> > > > > > > > > > whether my observations are right or not.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,

> > > > " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > If its from sale of property, then yes you have a good

> > > > > > chances.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I normally charge a good amount for Birth

> > rectification

> > > > from

> > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > clients. You have already saved that.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > You will appreciate that astrologers who can do Birth

> > > > > > > > rectification

> > > > > > > > > > > properly in india, can be counted on fingers, but

> > apart

> > > > from

> > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > none

> > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > these will give you explanations for this, as I have

> > done,

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > always

> > > > > > > > > > do

> > > > > > > > > > > on these Groups so that others can learn.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Any further queries can be addressed to me on a

> > > > professional

> > > > > > vein

> > > > > > > > .

> > > > > > > > > > You

> > > > > > > > > > > will appreciate that Astrology being my profession and

> > > > having

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > family

> > > > > > > > > > > to look after, my duties lie towards professionalism

> > too.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > thanks and regards,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,

> > Anand

> > > > Jain

> > > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I have no words for thanks as you have devoted

> > valueable

> > > > > > time.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, If U don't mind and hv some time for me, is

> > there

> > > > any

> > > > > > clue

> > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > betterment for me or expecting any huge liquidity

> > before

> > > > > > > > 18.7.2009.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand jain

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna

> > > > should

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > taken

> > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree

> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 8:09 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I took up Your case for judgement at 9th Jul 2009 ,

> > that

> > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > yesterday

> > > > > > > > > > > at Bombay in evening at 18.21.08

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Now what is the Ruling Planets Theory.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Whenever an astrologer sincerely wishes to confirm

> > some

> > > > data

> > > > > > > > > > available

> > > > > > > > > > > before him, and does not have any further inputs, then

> > the

> > > > > > Divine

> > > > > > > > > > > Configurations of the stars in the sky come to his

> > rescue.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > What is to be done here.

> > > > > > > > > > > > One must note at time of judgement what is the

> > > > prevailing

> > > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > > > > Lord,

> > > > > > > > > > > Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day Lord.

> > This is

> > > > > > known

> > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > > LSRD.

> > > > > > > > > > > > At time of judgement taken by me, the Lagna was

> > > > Sagittarius,

> > > > > > > > Moon

> > > > > > > > > > Star

> > > > > > > > > > > was Uttarasadha, Moon Raashi was Capricorn, and the

> > Day

> > > > was

> > > > > > > > Wednesday.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > So taking all the Lords of these points we have the

> > LSRD

> > > > as

> > > > > > > > Jupiter,

> > > > > > > > > > > The Sun, Saturn and Mercury. There is a rule that if

> > Rahu

> > > > or

> > > > > > Ketu

> > > > > > > > > > > occupies the raashi iof any of these Lords, then one

> > must

> > > > > > change

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently occupying

> > Capricorn

> > > > owned

> > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of Saturn.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Now the New LSRD is Jupiter, The Sun, Rahu and

> > Mercury.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > How does one check whether the Lagna arrived at the

> > > > recorded

> > > > > > > > Birth

> > > > > > > > > > > time is correct ?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra Lord and

> > the

> > > > Sub

> > > > > > Lord

> > > > > > > > > > > planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that the

> > > > recorded

> > > > > > time

> > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > correct.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > With your given birth time of 19.30 at Delhi Birth,

> > on

> > > > 14th

> > > > > > > > October

> > > > > > > > > > > 1960 the Lagna arrived at was Taurus 00.04.43 using KP

> > > > > > Ayanamsha

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord was The Sun and the Sub Lord was Rahu.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Since we have Sun and Rahu both in our LSRD at time

> > of

> > > > > > judgement

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > Bombay we accept that the Birth time is correct.

> > (Though

> > > > > > whether

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > take

> > > > > > > > > > > Aries or Taurus Lagna was still not solved, at least I

> > > > knew

> > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > above

> > > > > > > > > > > xcersise, that your time of Birth was nearly right and

> > not

> > > > > > many

> > > > > > > > > > minutes

> > > > > > > > > > > apart).

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > But I faced 2 more problems which made me study

> > further

> > > > -

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 1st problem - Using Taurus Lagna when I tried to

> > match

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > events of

> > > > > > > > > > > your Life. Nothing matched.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd problem - When the events did not match. I was

> > in a

> > > > > > > > quandary. I

> > > > > > > > > > > checked the minute divisions of the degrees and

> > realised

> > > > that

> > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > > 29.13.20 degrees of Aries uptil 01.13.20 degrees of

> > > > Taurus,

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord and the SubLord would remain same. In

> > > > simple

> > > > > > > > language

> > > > > > > > > > > this means that you could have born about 3 minutes

> > before

> > > > > > close

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > Mesha Lagna and 3 minutes after close of Mesha Lagna,

> > yet

> > > > Star

> > > > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > Sub lord would still remain same.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I made one more additional Horary chart to recheck

> > this

> > > > > > (This is

> > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > advanced technique . Cannot write here because many

> > will

> > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > understand

> > > > > > > > > > > and to make one understand I will have to write

> > another

> > > > page

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > everyone will get confused with so much at a time) and

> > > > found

> > > > > > Mars

> > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > figuring in the prominent planets. This gave me a clue

> > and

> > > > > > went

> > > > > > > > ahead

> > > > > > > > > > > and fixed the Birth time as 19.29.30 without meddling

> > too

> > > > much

> > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > recorded time.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna arrived at is,Aries 29.56.02 Star Lord

> > and

> > > > Sub

> > > > > > > > Lord

> > > > > > > > > > > remain same as in previous birth time of 19.30.00 IST

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Now to match the events -

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage on 23.11.85 Venus-Venus . Venus

> > signifies

> > > > the

> > > > > > houses

> > > > > > > > 2

> > > > > > > > > > > and 7 required to be activated primarily for marriage.

> > If

> > > > You

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > software which shows the significators, then note that

> > > > Venus

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > only

> > > > > > > > > > > planet among the 9 Planets in your chart, which shows

> > the

> > > > > > SubLord

> > > > > > > > > > again

> > > > > > > > > > > as Venus signifying, 2,7 and 9.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 2) First daughter 16.12.1986 Venus - Sun. The Sun

> > > > signifies

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > 5th

> > > > > > > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Second daughter 21.09.1988 Venus-Moon-Sun. mars

> > about

> > > > to

> > > > > > > > enter on

> > > > > > > > > > > 3rd October 1988. Both Sun and Mars signify the 5th

> > house.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Father expired on 10.8.1990 Rahu amongst other

> > houses

> > > > > > > > signifies

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > 8th and 9th house too.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > You will not get the above matching by Taurus Lagna

> > at

> > > > all,

> > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > whatever stretch.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Hope my time spent is of use to You.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,

> > > > > > " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already done some work on this. But before

> > we

> > > > move

> > > > > > > > further

> > > > > > > > > > > could

> > > > > > > > > > > > > you pl. call me on my cell number 9323522663, so

> > that

> > > > I

> > > > > > could

> > > > > > > > > > spend

> > > > > > > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > > > > > > time on same.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

> > com,

> > > > Anand

> > > > > > Jain

> > > > > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful manner, as u r explaining to

> > us.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.10.1960 19.30 Delhi

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > married on 23.11.85

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > first daughter 16.12.1986

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd daughter 21.9.1988

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father expired 10.8.1990

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Detained by Custom officials on 29.12.1990 and

> > case

> > > > > > > > finalised on

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.4.2000

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand Jain

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what

> > lagna

> > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > taken for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 8 July, 2009, 6:19 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If You are using KP ayanamsha then it will the

> > same

> > > > > > Lagna.

> > > > > > > > If

> > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > using Lahiris or Ramans then there may be a

> > doubt of

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > Lagna.

> > > > > > > > > > > (This

> > > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > presuming that your time of Birth is accurate).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > But before that there is a process known as

> > Ruling

> > > > > > Planets

> > > > > > > > > > theory

> > > > > > > > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > will help you guide to the right Lagna. If You

> > put

> > > > the

> > > > > > birth

> > > > > > > > > > > details

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > here, I will make a Live example of this process

> > so

> > > > all

> > > > > > > > those

> > > > > > > > > > who

> > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not familiar with this can learn.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also put a few incindets from your Life,

> > marriage

> > > > date

> > > > > > (If

> > > > > > > > You

> > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > married, childrens birth date,) date of

> > employment

> > > > etc.

> > > > > > > > whatever

> > > > > > > > > > > major

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > incidents you remember, limiting it to 5 , so

> > that

> > > > the

> > > > > > mail

> > > > > > > > does

> > > > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > go

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > too long .

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

> > com,

> > > > > > > > " swarup1068 "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <swarup1068@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will u pl clarify, if horoscope of any native

> > > > shows

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > degree

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of 00:01, what lagna should be taken for

> > prediction

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand jain

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand jain ji

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls remov ur phone Numbr along with posts

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds Team grp managemnt

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new

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>

July 12, 2009

Dear Vinothkumar ji,

I do not understand what is being tried to propogate here.

If I give an analysis and somebody refutes my conclusions, then it is

but normal, to ask for the reasons-astrological to the opposite person

refuting my claims. If it leads to a fight, then so it be. The truth

must come out. One cannot just walk in a forum and REFUTE without

supporting evidence.

You are talking about 100% guaranteed Predictions. What nonsense is this

type of talking. What are you demanding. The sky to come on the Earth ?

The water and sky to actually meet at the horzons. Is it possible ? No

manufaturer of any product also gives and guarantee. They only give

" Warranty " .

Has anybody heard of 100% Guarantee in astrological predictions? Then

why this talk ?

Do not reach. Talk practical please.

Yet, I have confidence in my predictions and astrological knowledge, and

they turn 80% right by Lord Shri Krishna Grace.

In this particular case, they have been proved 100% right. For the

future I have mentioned, it will come 90% right, I have the confidence.

Try to negate the above statements, by astrological analysis against my

claims of the next antardasha not turning benefic for the native in

Question. But no talk other than astrology.

Preaching must only be done by those who have proved themselves.

Bhaskar.

, " vinothkumarmd "

<vinothkumarmd wrote:

>

> Dear friends

>

> This is a general statement and does not refer to anybody.

>

> Quarells usually crop up when there are difference in opinion with

each other and both have some point by which they feel their stance is

true.This is understandable.At the maximum one must avoid to pick up

quarells.Fighting first and then asking sorry is a great quality but a

time waste escpecially for the one who wins a fight though his fight

will be centered to propagate correct astrological information and not

for his prestige.

>

> The other member who loses the fight should realise and think twice

before fighting.

>

> Following is a personal statement and request to Bhaskarji and Vijay

goel Ji

>

> Both of you had difference of opinion regarding which antar will give

liquidity

>

> Bhaskarji said moon

> Vijayji said Mars

>

> What is the use of fighting for future predictions?Fight was going on

using astrological data as if the event has happened.Only time will tell

who is correct

>

> so please avoid fighting for future predictions when escpecially you

cannot give 100% guarantee for your clients

>

> If you can give 100% guarantee ,then i agree you have the right to

quarell

>

> regards

>

> Vinoth

>

, neelam gupta

neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vijay Goel ji,

> >

> > //So both factors indicate that i am not wrong and tauras lagna is

working.

> > The only thing is that i have not made comparison of all the

divisional

> > chart for Aries and Tauras lagna due to time constriant.//

> > I do not agree, in fact, on the contrary I see Aries rising closer.

Just by

> > looking at transits one cannot conclude. In any case double transit

on any

> > of the 4 factors becomes too general and cannot be used as

conclusive

> > evidence unless seen through natal and dasha promise, as well as

vargas.

> >

> > //Also this result was matching with Bhaskerji results.//

> > How? I do not see again. He also derived Aries lagna I think.

> >

> > I apologise for seeking these clarifications from you. This is a

part of

> > learning process for myself.

> >

> > Regards

> > Neelam

> >

>

July 12, 2009

Dear Bhagvathi ji,

What is being tried to prove by this one sided representation ? I have

got at least a 1000 mails displaying thanks and gratitude for correct

predictions.

Bhaskar.

, " bhagavathi_hariharan "

<bhagavathi_hariharan wrote:

>

> Dear all,

>

> I thought of sharing an incident. A senior man, member of another

group where I am active wanted a chart reading. He preferred a face to

face reading in Jaipur, where he lived. This man has his own business.

He was routed completely financially. He requested me to suggest

soemone. Through groups, I was aware of Vijayji in Jaipur. This man went

to him. Couple of days back, I received an email from him saying that

Vijayji's predictions came true. He also was happy the way Vijayji

treated him.

>

> I do not have permision to discuss his chart. But briefly, I shall

give the prediction as emailed to me by the native

>

> //Respected Bhagavathiji,

>

> I do not wish to share any details in any forum or with anyone. I

trust you for privacy policy.

>

> First, I thank you whole heartedly for refering me to a nice

gentleman. He had predcited that I would get money this time. In brief,

this is what he wrote:

>

> Now you are running the antar dasa of vargottama moon in mercury

dasha. This antar will surely give you wealth especially between may to

july 09.

>

> It is 100% true. On May 20, I got a new offer from a garment store for

my supply. It is not a big offer as it was in the past but this surely

is a relief from my bad finances.

>

> May Krsna brings peace and comfort in your life ! for reffering me to

a good astrologer

>

> Regards,

> #########

> Jaipur.

> (I have masked the name to conceal identity)

>

> , " Vijay Goel " goyalvj@

wrote:

> >

> > Respected Bhaskerji,

> >

> > I am younger brother to you, and i am also 'bit use to' with the

attitude of big brother.

> > Your mail only reminded me one great research astrologer Shri H N

Katwe, he was also very very harsh and all his life he was shouting on

one and other. He himself has said this in his books. He even not spared

his closest friend who gave him shelter all his life.

> > Interesting story ! ) Since this person was clear heart and a

genuine scholar he wrote his life events in black & white.

> >

> > Seriously this time your harsh mails does not affected me but only

reminded him and nothing else.

> >

> > I am here in this forum only to share some astrological experiences

and i am not at all good at teaching and explaining still i am trying my

best.

> >

> > I only know one thing that learning astrology does not comes easily

for me.

> >

> > Thankyou,

> > Regards,

> > Vijay Goel

> > Jaipur.

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,

> > >

> > > I have been a wee bit harsh on you. I am sorry for that. Bade log

aise

> > > hi hote hain, thode crack, thoda screw dheela and eccentric. Hum

tumse

> > > pahle chale jayeenge upar, isliye hame maaf kar dena bhai. Hope

our love

> > > will overcome these puny matters .

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , " Vijay Goel "

> > > <goyalvj@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Bhaskerji,

> > > >

> > > > You are always respected as an well versed senior KP astrologer.

> > > >

> > > > It will be a great pleasure for me to have cup of tea with you.

> > > >

> > > > Thankyou,

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > Jaipur.

> > > >

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Vijay ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > No I was not sure actually whether you are in Jaipur or not.

just

> > > > > faintly remembered so. So I was confirming that by (?).

> > > > >

> > > > > Since you have given me your number and address, (I will be

putting

> > > up

> > > > > very near to your address)I will wait for your call to invite

me

> > > over

> > > > > for a cup of tea, but pyaar se bulaoge tab hi bulaana mujhe.

Agar

> > > logon

> > > > > se " Madman " kar ke introduce karna hai, toh Bhai maaf karo.

> > > > >

> > > > > I hope this episode will be left behind when we meet.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Vijay Goel "

> > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > your quote :

> > > > > > // " I am going to Jaipur (Your location?) " //

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am at D-687, Near Gaurav Tower, Malviya Nagar, Jaipur.

> > > > > > My phone number is 9214502239.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are warmly welcome at Jaipur. I advise you to visit the

Rishi

> > > > > Parashar Ashram located near to Sarika National park on Alwar

route.

> > > > > > It is said that on that place Parashar stayed and done all

his

> > > works.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thankyou,

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am not convinced by this explanation. What you have

given is

> > > only

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > position and placement of the planets and their aspects on

each

> > > > > other .

> > > > > > > Where is the logic part ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As regards to My KP Method. There is nothing like yours

and

> > > mines.

> > > > > KP

> > > > > > > has come from Parashari so nothing strange or unknown

quality

> > > about

> > > > > it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Vijay

Goel "

> > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > your quote :

> > > > > > > > ////when I reach the conclusion that he can get

liquidity from

> > > > > some

> > > > > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil

Now ?

> > > This

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs,

so

> > > that

> > > > > > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as

the

> > > > > logs " .////

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You may be right, ha ha but i have not denied your

hard

> > > work, i

> > > > > > > have given my views based on your conclusion, whats wrong

in it?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You find moon antar better, its your KP method; i find

mars

> > > antar

> > > > > > > better in terms of property matter, its my view.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Reasons :

> > > > > > > > In D-1 chart :

> > > > > > > > Moon is in 3H in karka in papkartari yoga aspected by

none.

> > > > > > > > In D-9:

> > > > > > > > Moon in 12H as 7L aspected by venus as 10L & 5L.

> > > > > > > > In D-4 :

> > > > > > > > Moon in 9H in papkartari yoga aspected by venus and

mercury.

> > > Here

> > > > > > > position improves for property related matters.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In all three chart, involvement of 4th house is

negligible so

> > > > > property

> > > > > > > related matters will hardly fructify, only in D-4 chart,

2nd

> > > house

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > involved. If we observe moon in D-10 chart than this antar

of

> > > moon

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > bring lot of hard work and short travels related to career

and

> > > > > > > profession.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now look at mars:

> > > > > > > > D-1:

> > > > > > > > Mars in 2nd house aspected by saturn and jupiter. saturn

is

> > > > > aspecting

> > > > > > > sun the 4L.

> > > > > > > > D-9:

> > > > > > > > mars is 4L in 3H aspected by saturn (2L) ans sun.

> > > > > > > > D-4:

> > > > > > > > Mars with jupiter in 8H aspecting 2H and sun as 4L is

> > > aspecting

> > > > > mars

> > > > > > > > from 2H.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In all above chart it is clear that mars has more

linkage to

> > > 4th

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > 2H related matters.Hence i find it more appropriate.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ************

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thankyou,

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > > > > > If any person want to have any peaceful discussion on

this

> > > matter

> > > > > or

> > > > > > > have any doubts he\she can call me on my mobile or email

me.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ,

" Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goelji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Shri KN Rao ji has written much. Which of his

teachings

> > > impies

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > Lagna is Vrishabha and not Mesha.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Why will Moon antardasha not appropriate for selling

> > > property ?

> > > > > The

> > > > > > > > > reasons - Astrological? Why dpo you think that the

Mars

> > > dasha

> > > > > would

> > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > more beneficial ? The reasons ? - Astrological ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Why are the reasons very simple and need no

explanations. I

> > > > > cannot

> > > > > > > > > understand this simplicity. Can You explain ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > And where were you when all this was discussed uptil

now.

> > > You

> > > > > come

> > > > > > > back,

> > > > > > > > > when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity

from

> > > some

> > > > > > > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said

uptil Now

> > > ?

> > > > > This

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden

logs,

> > > so

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well

as the

> > > > > logs " .

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mars antar is going to be a very malefic period for

him .

> > > What

> > > > > > > rubbish

> > > > > > > > > are you talking that it will be beneficial. Do you

know even

> > > the

> > > > > > > basics

> > > > > > > > > of astrology ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > After the story of Ramayana has been heard by people,

You

> > > are

> > > > > now

> > > > > > > > > talking " I will tell you who is Ram and Sita " .

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please explain us what is simple which needs no

explanation

> > > ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ,

" Vijay

> > > Goel "

> > > > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji Jain,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on the

birth

> > > > > details

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his various

books.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Now in your horoscope the antar of moon is running.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Moon MD: 2008-11-17 - 2018-11-17

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Antardasas in this MD:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Moon: 2008-11-17 - 2009-09-17

> > > > > > > > > > Mars: 2009-09-17 - 2010-04-18

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > But i don't find Moon antar dasa appropriate for

selling

> > > of

> > > > > > > property,

> > > > > > > > > this antar will not fetch you a good buyer instead it

will

> > > > > create

> > > > > > > lot of

> > > > > > > > > frustration. I think Mars antar dasa starting from

17th sep

> > > 09

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > 18th

> > > > > > > > > april 10 will be more beneficial.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The reasons was very simple and needs no

explanation.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thankyou,

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > > > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ,

Anand

> > > Jain

> > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Of course, you are not even 100% absolutely right

it is

> > > > > 1000%

> > > > > > > > > correct as there is no other way to create the

liquidity.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Myself behind on the matter from last one year but

could

> > > not

> > > > > get

> > > > > > > > > appropriate buyer.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > With best of my regards

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Anand Jain

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I will call u tomorrow over phone, u may give me a

miss

> > > call

> > > > > > > > > whenever u hv free time.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > > > > > > Re: what lagna

> > > should be

> > > > > > > taken

> > > > > > > > > for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:31 AM

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Anand ji,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Please confirm whether this liquidity you are

looking

> > > for,

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > due

> > > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > > sale of property or not ? Or any other source.

This is

> > > to

> > > > > > > confirm

> > > > > > > > > > > whether my observations are right or not.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

com,

> > > > > " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > If its from sale of property, then yes you have

a good

> > > > > > > chances.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I normally charge a good amount for Birth

> > > rectification

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > > clients. You have already saved that.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > You will appreciate that astrologers who can do

Birth

> > > > > > > > > rectification

> > > > > > > > > > > > properly in india, can be counted on fingers,

but

> > > apart

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > > none

> > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > these will give you explanations for this, as I

have

> > > done,

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > always

> > > > > > > > > > > do

> > > > > > > > > > > > on these Groups so that others can learn.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Any further queries can be addressed to me on a

> > > > > professional

> > > > > > > vein

> > > > > > > > > .

> > > > > > > > > > > You

> > > > > > > > > > > > will appreciate that Astrology being my

profession and

> > > > > having

> > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > family

> > > > > > > > > > > > to look after, my duties lie towards

professionalism

> > > too.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

com,

> > > Anand

> > > > > Jain

> > > > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no words for thanks as you have devoted

> > > valueable

> > > > > > > time.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, If U don't mind and hv some time for me,

is

> > > there

> > > > > any

> > > > > > > clue

> > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > betterment for me or expecting any huge

liquidity

> > > before

> > > > > > > > > 18.7.2009.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand jain

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what

lagna

> > > > > should

> > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > taken

> > > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

com

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 8:09 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I took up Your case for judgement at 9th Jul

2009 ,

> > > that

> > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > yesterday

> > > > > > > > > > > > at Bombay in evening at 18.21.08

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what is the Ruling Planets Theory.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Whenever an astrologer sincerely wishes to

confirm

> > > some

> > > > > data

> > > > > > > > > > > available

> > > > > > > > > > > > before him, and does not have any further

inputs, then

> > > the

> > > > > > > Divine

> > > > > > > > > > > > Configurations of the stars in the sky come to

his

> > > rescue.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > What is to be done here.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > One must note at time of judgement what is the

> > > > > prevailing

> > > > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > Lord,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day

Lord.

> > > This is

> > > > > > > known

> > > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > > > LSRD.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > At time of judgement taken by me, the Lagna

was

> > > > > Sagittarius,

> > > > > > > > > Moon

> > > > > > > > > > > Star

> > > > > > > > > > > > was Uttarasadha, Moon Raashi was Capricorn, and

the

> > > Day

> > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > Wednesday.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > So taking all the Lords of these points we

have the

> > > LSRD

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > Jupiter,

> > > > > > > > > > > > The Sun, Saturn and Mercury. There is a rule

that if

> > > Rahu

> > > > > or

> > > > > > > Ketu

> > > > > > > > > > > > occupies the raashi iof any of these Lords, then

one

> > > must

> > > > > > > change

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently occupying

> > > Capricorn

> > > > > owned

> > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of

Saturn.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the New LSRD is Jupiter, The Sun, Rahu and

> > > Mercury.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one check whether the Lagna arrived

at the

> > > > > recorded

> > > > > > > > > Birth

> > > > > > > > > > > > time is correct ?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra

Lord and

> > > the

> > > > > Sub

> > > > > > > Lord

> > > > > > > > > > > > planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that

the

> > > > > recorded

> > > > > > > time

> > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > correct.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > With your given birth time of 19.30 at Delhi

Birth,

> > > on

> > > > > 14th

> > > > > > > > > October

> > > > > > > > > > > > 1960 the Lagna arrived at was Taurus 00.04.43

using KP

> > > > > > > Ayanamsha

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord was The Sun and the Sub Lord was

Rahu.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we have Sun and Rahu both in our LSRD at

time

> > > of

> > > > > > > judgement

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > Bombay we accept that the Birth time is correct.

> > > (Though

> > > > > > > whether

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > take

> > > > > > > > > > > > Aries or Taurus Lagna was still not solved, at

least I

> > > > > knew

> > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > above

> > > > > > > > > > > > xcersise, that your time of Birth was nearly

right and

> > > not

> > > > > > > many

> > > > > > > > > > > minutes

> > > > > > > > > > > > apart).

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > But I faced 2 more problems which made me

study

> > > further

> > > > > -

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1st problem - Using Taurus Lagna when I tried

to

> > > match

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > events of

> > > > > > > > > > > > your Life. Nothing matched.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd problem - When the events did not match. I

was

> > > in a

> > > > > > > > > quandary. I

> > > > > > > > > > > > checked the minute divisions of the degrees and

> > > realised

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > > > 29.13.20 degrees of Aries uptil 01.13.20 degrees

of

> > > > > Taurus,

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord and the SubLord would remain

same. In

> > > > > simple

> > > > > > > > > language

> > > > > > > > > > > > this means that you could have born about 3

minutes

> > > before

> > > > > > > close

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mesha Lagna and 3 minutes after close of Mesha

Lagna,

> > > yet

> > > > > Star

> > > > > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > Sub lord would still remain same.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I made one more additional Horary chart to

recheck

> > > this

> > > > > > > (This is

> > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > advanced technique . Cannot write here because

many

> > > will

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > understand

> > > > > > > > > > > > and to make one understand I will have to write

> > > another

> > > > > page

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > everyone will get confused with so much at a

time) and

> > > > > found

> > > > > > > Mars

> > > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > > figuring in the prominent planets. This gave me

a clue

> > > and

> > > > > > > went

> > > > > > > > > ahead

> > > > > > > > > > > > and fixed the Birth time as 19.29.30 without

meddling

> > > too

> > > > > much

> > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > recorded time.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna arrived at is,Aries 29.56.02

Star Lord

> > > and

> > > > > Sub

> > > > > > > > > Lord

> > > > > > > > > > > > remain same as in previous birth time of

19.30.00 IST

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Now to match the events -

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage on 23.11.85 Venus-Venus . Venus

> > > signifies

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > houses

> > > > > > > > > 2

> > > > > > > > > > > > and 7 required to be activated primarily for

marriage.

> > > If

> > > > > You

> > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > software which shows the significators, then

note that

> > > > > Venus

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > only

> > > > > > > > > > > > planet among the 9 Planets in your chart, which

shows

> > > the

> > > > > > > SubLord

> > > > > > > > > > > again

> > > > > > > > > > > > as Venus signifying, 2,7 and 9.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) First daughter 16.12.1986 Venus - Sun. The

Sun

> > > > > signifies

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > 5th

> > > > > > > > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Second daughter 21.09.1988 Venus-Moon-Sun.

mars

> > > about

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > enter on

> > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd October 1988. Both Sun and Mars signify the

5th

> > > house.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Father expired on 10.8.1990 Rahu amongst

other

> > > houses

> > > > > > > > > signifies

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > 8th and 9th house too.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > You will not get the above matching by Taurus

Lagna

> > > at

> > > > > all,

> > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > > whatever stretch.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope my time spent is of use to You.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

com,

> > > > > > > " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already done some work on this. But

before

> > > we

> > > > > move

> > > > > > > > > further

> > > > > > > > > > > > could

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you pl. call me on my cell number

9323522663, so

> > > that

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > could

> > > > > > > > > > > spend

> > > > > > > > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > time on same.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@

.

> > > com,

> > > > > Anand

> > > > > > > Jain

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful manner, as u r explaining

to

> > > us.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.10.1960 19.30 Delhi

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married on 23.11.85

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first daughter 16.12.1986

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd daughter 21.9.1988

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father expired 10.8.1990

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Detained by Custom officials on 29.12.1990

and

> > > case

> > > > > > > > > finalised on

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.4.2000

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand Jain

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/7/09, Bhaskar

bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:

what

> > > lagna

> > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > > taken for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 8 July, 2009, 6:19 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If You are using KP ayanamsha then it will

the

> > > same

> > > > > > > Lagna.

> > > > > > > > > If

> > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > using Lahiris or Ramans then there may be

a

> > > doubt of

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > Lagna.

> > > > > > > > > > > > (This

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > presuming that your time of Birth is

accurate).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But before that there is a process known

as

> > > Ruling

> > > > > > > Planets

> > > > > > > > > > > theory

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will help you guide to the right Lagna. If

You

> > > put

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > birth

> > > > > > > > > > > > details

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here, I will make a Live example of this

process

> > > so

> > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > those

> > > > > > > > > > > who

> > > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not familiar with this can learn.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also put a few incindets from your Life,

> > > marriage

> > > > > date

> > > > > > > (If

> > > > > > > > > You

> > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married, childrens birth date,) date of

> > > employment

> > > > > etc.

> > > > > > > > > whatever

> > > > > > > > > > > > major

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > incidents you remember, limiting it to 5 ,

so

> > > that

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > mail

> > > > > > > > > does

> > > > > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > go

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > too long .

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@

.

> > > com,

> > > > > > > > > " swarup1068 "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <swarup1068@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will u pl clarify, if horoscope of any

native

> > > > > shows

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > > degree

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of 00:01, what lagna should be taken for

> > > prediction

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand jain

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand jain ji

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls remov ur phone Numbr along with

posts

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds Team grp managemnt

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the

new

> > > and

> > > > > safer

> > > > > > > > > Internet

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads. /

> > > > > in/internetexplo

> > > > > > > rer/

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by

people

> > > > > like

> > > > > > > you.

> > > > > > > > > Check

> > > > > > > > > > > > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. /

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and

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> > > > > Internet

> > > > > > > > > Explorer 8.

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> > > > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 12, 2009

I say sorry only to avoid hatred in future and avoid blood shed. Also I

do not wish to break the morale of the younsgters. Other than this I do

not need to ask for forgiveness, when I am not wrong.

I dont care for prestige, that I already have, both good and bad, I care

only for the truth to prevail. And good qualities to come on the fore

for the coming generations, to emulate.

Those who can fight like Lions must also have the quality to ask for

forgiveness in a show of humility. That is what is a quality of a good

human being, which I am proud to say , I am, and do not need anyones

confirmation of the same. Time wasters on these forums are those who

talk everything else, give big advices, but no astrology.

Bhaskar.

, " vinothkumarmd "

<vinothkumarmd wrote:

>

> Dear friends

>

> This is a general statement and does not refer to anybody.

>

> Quarells usually crop up when there are difference in opinion with

each other and both have some point by which they feel their stance is

true.This is understandable.At the maximum one must avoid to pick up

quarells.Fighting first and then asking sorry is a great quality but a

time waste escpecially for the one who wins a fight though his fight

will be centered to propagate correct astrological information and not

for his prestige.

>

> The other member who loses the fight should realise and think twice

before fighting.

>

> Following is a personal statement and request to Bhaskarji and Vijay

goel Ji

>

> Both of you had difference of opinion regarding which antar will give

liquidity

>

> Bhaskarji said moon

> Vijayji said Mars

>

> What is the use of fighting for future predictions?Fight was going on

using astrological data as if the event has happened.Only time will tell

who is correct

>

> so please avoid fighting for future predictions when escpecially you

cannot give 100% guarantee for your clients

>

> If you can give 100% guarantee ,then i agree you have the right to

quarell

>

> regards

>

> Vinoth

>

, neelam gupta

neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vijay Goel ji,

> >

> > //So both factors indicate that i am not wrong and tauras lagna is

working.

> > The only thing is that i have not made comparison of all the

divisional

> > chart for Aries and Tauras lagna due to time constriant.//

> > I do not agree, in fact, on the contrary I see Aries rising closer.

Just by

> > looking at transits one cannot conclude. In any case double transit

on any

> > of the 4 factors becomes too general and cannot be used as

conclusive

> > evidence unless seen through natal and dasha promise, as well as

vargas.

> >

> > //Also this result was matching with Bhaskerji results.//

> > How? I do not see again. He also derived Aries lagna I think.

> >

> > I apologise for seeking these clarifications from you. This is a

part of

> > learning process for myself.

> >

> > Regards

> > Neelam

> >

>

July 12, 2009

Dear Bhaskarji,

I have the highest respects for you. You have a class of your own, there is no

doubt in that. You always stand apart in a crowd. I am not trying to prove

anything by this representation. I posted that to say that he knows " some

astrology " atleast. After all, he belongs to my generation.

Between 2001 and 2008 I made 18 predictions. I am not a professional astrologer,

so the number is less. Of 18- one was not correct, I think because the person is

active in groups, I did not get a feedback. Three predictions are in deposit,

will mature in 2010/2011. All others were true.

This year in 2009, so far I made three predictions, 2 for my family members. One

for my relative about child birth, then the other for my niece, who had written

her 12th exam. I said she would pass with flying colors, get an award, and keep

our family custom on top. She scored 96%, stood first in sanskrit in all the

state. I predicted the day of the result, and also said she would become a

doctor. She did not get admission in a good medical college but has chosen

bio-engineering in a well reputed college.

The other prediction is for a co-worker as the time when he will start dating a

girl- have to see.

Now this does not mean I am the best astrologers in the world. This only gave me

an indication that I can continue with my studies in astrology. I also got

another topic for research- RAHU is somehow involved in astrology to a full

extent. Rahu initially gives and tempts a person, slowly he tempts the person to

a higher dose, then depending on whether favorable or not, the person is a

success or failure. Now I am running Rahu dasha, although started astrology at

age 10, started predicting only in 2001. Then got tempted, got deeply involved-

I cannot predict the outcome of myself and my future.

Regards,

bhagavathi

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhagvathi ji,

>

> What is being tried to prove by this one sided representation ? I have

> got at least a 1000 mails displaying thanks and gratitude for correct

> predictions.

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " bhagavathi_hariharan "

> <bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear all,

> >

> > I thought of sharing an incident. A senior man, member of another

> group where I am active wanted a chart reading. He preferred a face to

> face reading in Jaipur, where he lived. This man has his own business.

> He was routed completely financially. He requested me to suggest

> soemone. Through groups, I was aware of Vijayji in Jaipur. This man went

> to him. Couple of days back, I received an email from him saying that

> Vijayji's predictions came true. He also was happy the way Vijayji

> treated him.

> >

> > I do not have permision to discuss his chart. But briefly, I shall

> give the prediction as emailed to me by the native

> >

> > //Respected Bhagavathiji,

> >

> > I do not wish to share any details in any forum or with anyone. I

> trust you for privacy policy.

> >

> > First, I thank you whole heartedly for refering me to a nice

> gentleman. He had predcited that I would get money this time. In brief,

> this is what he wrote:

> >

> > Now you are running the antar dasa of vargottama moon in mercury

> dasha. This antar will surely give you wealth especially between may to

> july 09.

> >

> > It is 100% true. On May 20, I got a new offer from a garment store for

> my supply. It is not a big offer as it was in the past but this surely

> is a relief from my bad finances.

> >

> > May Krsna brings peace and comfort in your life ! for reffering me to

> a good astrologer

> >

> > Regards,

> > #########

> > Jaipur.

> > (I have masked the name to conceal identity)

> >

> > , " Vijay Goel " goyalvj@

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Bhaskerji,

> > >

> > > I am younger brother to you, and i am also 'bit use to' with the

> attitude of big brother.

> > > Your mail only reminded me one great research astrologer Shri H N

> Katwe, he was also very very harsh and all his life he was shouting on

> one and other. He himself has said this in his books. He even not spared

> his closest friend who gave him shelter all his life.

> > > Interesting story ! ) Since this person was clear heart and a

> genuine scholar he wrote his life events in black & white.

> > >

> > > Seriously this time your harsh mails does not affected me but only

> reminded him and nothing else.

> > >

> > > I am here in this forum only to share some astrological experiences

> and i am not at all good at teaching and explaining still i am trying my

> best.

> > >

> > > I only know one thing that learning astrology does not comes easily

> for me.

> > >

> > > Thankyou,

> > > Regards,

> > > Vijay Goel

> > > Jaipur.

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,

> > > >

> > > > I have been a wee bit harsh on you. I am sorry for that. Bade log

> aise

> > > > hi hote hain, thode crack, thoda screw dheela and eccentric. Hum

> tumse

> > > > pahle chale jayeenge upar, isliye hame maaf kar dena bhai. Hope

> our love

> > > > will overcome these puny matters .

> > > >

> > > > best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > , " Vijay Goel "

> > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,

> > > > >

> > > > > You are always respected as an well versed senior KP astrologer.

> > > > >

> > > > > It will be a great pleasure for me to have cup of tea with you.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thankyou,

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Vijay ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > No I was not sure actually whether you are in Jaipur or not.

> just

> > > > > > faintly remembered so. So I was confirming that by (?).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Since you have given me your number and address, (I will be

> putting

> > > > up

> > > > > > very near to your address)I will wait for your call to invite

> me

> > > > over

> > > > > > for a cup of tea, but pyaar se bulaoge tab hi bulaana mujhe.

> Agar

> > > > logon

> > > > > > se " Madman " kar ke introduce karna hai, toh Bhai maaf karo.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I hope this episode will be left behind when we meet.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Vijay Goel "

> > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > your quote :

> > > > > > > // " I am going to Jaipur (Your location?) " //

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am at D-687, Near Gaurav Tower, Malviya Nagar, Jaipur.

> > > > > > > My phone number is 9214502239.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You are warmly welcome at Jaipur. I advise you to visit the

> Rishi

> > > > > > Parashar Ashram located near to Sarika National park on Alwar

> route.

> > > > > > > It is said that on that place Parashar stayed and done all

> his

> > > > works.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thankyou,

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am not convinced by this explanation. What you have

> given is

> > > > only

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > position and placement of the planets and their aspects on

> each

> > > > > > other .

> > > > > > > > Where is the logic part ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > As regards to My KP Method. There is nothing like yours

> and

> > > > mines.

> > > > > > KP

> > > > > > > > has come from Parashari so nothing strange or unknown

> quality

> > > > about

> > > > > > it.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Vijay

> Goel "

> > > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > your quote :

> > > > > > > > > ////when I reach the conclusion that he can get

> liquidity from

> > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil

> Now ?

> > > > This

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs,

> so

> > > > that

> > > > > > > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as

> the

> > > > > > logs " .////

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You may be right, ha ha but i have not denied your

> hard

> > > > work, i

> > > > > > > > have given my views based on your conclusion, whats wrong

> in it?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You find moon antar better, its your KP method; i find

> mars

> > > > antar

> > > > > > > > better in terms of property matter, its my view.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Reasons :

> > > > > > > > > In D-1 chart :

> > > > > > > > > Moon is in 3H in karka in papkartari yoga aspected by

> none.

> > > > > > > > > In D-9:

> > > > > > > > > Moon in 12H as 7L aspected by venus as 10L & 5L.

> > > > > > > > > In D-4 :

> > > > > > > > > Moon in 9H in papkartari yoga aspected by venus and

> mercury.

> > > > Here

> > > > > > > > position improves for property related matters.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In all three chart, involvement of 4th house is

> negligible so

> > > > > > property

> > > > > > > > related matters will hardly fructify, only in D-4 chart,

> 2nd

> > > > house

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > involved. If we observe moon in D-10 chart than this antar

> of

> > > > moon

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > bring lot of hard work and short travels related to career

> and

> > > > > > > > profession.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now look at mars:

> > > > > > > > > D-1:

> > > > > > > > > Mars in 2nd house aspected by saturn and jupiter. saturn

> is

> > > > > > aspecting

> > > > > > > > sun the 4L.

> > > > > > > > > D-9:

> > > > > > > > > mars is 4L in 3H aspected by saturn (2L) ans sun.

> > > > > > > > > D-4:

> > > > > > > > > Mars with jupiter in 8H aspecting 2H and sun as 4L is

> > > > aspecting

> > > > > > mars

> > > > > > > > > from 2H.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In all above chart it is clear that mars has more

> linkage to

> > > > 4th

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > 2H related matters.Hence i find it more appropriate.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ************

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thankyou,

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > > > > > > If any person want to have any peaceful discussion on

> this

> > > > matter

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > have any doubts he\she can call me on my mobile or email

> me.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ,

> " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goelji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Shri KN Rao ji has written much. Which of his

> teachings

> > > > impies

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > Lagna is Vrishabha and not Mesha.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Why will Moon antardasha not appropriate for selling

> > > > property ?

> > > > > > The

> > > > > > > > > > reasons - Astrological? Why dpo you think that the

> Mars

> > > > dasha

> > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > more beneficial ? The reasons ? - Astrological ?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Why are the reasons very simple and need no

> explanations. I

> > > > > > cannot

> > > > > > > > > > understand this simplicity. Can You explain ?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > And where were you when all this was discussed uptil

> now.

> > > > You

> > > > > > come

> > > > > > > > back,

> > > > > > > > > > when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity

> from

> > > > some

> > > > > > > > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said

> uptil Now

> > > > ?

> > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden

> logs,

> > > > so

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well

> as the

> > > > > > logs " .

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Mars antar is going to be a very malefic period for

> him .

> > > > What

> > > > > > > > rubbish

> > > > > > > > > > are you talking that it will be beneficial. Do you

> know even

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > basics

> > > > > > > > > > of astrology ?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > After the story of Ramayana has been heard by people,

> You

> > > > are

> > > > > > now

> > > > > > > > > > talking " I will tell you who is Ram and Sita " .

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Please explain us what is simple which needs no

> explanation

> > > > ?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ,

> " Vijay

> > > > Goel "

> > > > > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji Jain,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on the

> birth

> > > > > > details

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his various

> books.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Now in your horoscope the antar of moon is running.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Moon MD: 2008-11-17 - 2018-11-17

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Antardasas in this MD:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Moon: 2008-11-17 - 2009-09-17

> > > > > > > > > > > Mars: 2009-09-17 - 2010-04-18

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > But i don't find Moon antar dasa appropriate for

> selling

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > property,

> > > > > > > > > > this antar will not fetch you a good buyer instead it

> will

> > > > > > create

> > > > > > > > lot of

> > > > > > > > > > frustration. I think Mars antar dasa starting from

> 17th sep

> > > > 09

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > 18th

> > > > > > > > > > april 10 will be more beneficial.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > The reasons was very simple and needs no

> explanation.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou,

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > ,

> Anand

> > > > Jain

> > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, you are not even 100% absolutely right

> it is

> > > > > > 1000%

> > > > > > > > > > correct as there is no other way to create the

> liquidity.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Myself behind on the matter from last one year but

> could

> > > > not

> > > > > > get

> > > > > > > > > > appropriate buyer.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > With best of my regards

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Anand Jain

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I will call u tomorrow over phone, u may give me a

> miss

> > > > call

> > > > > > > > > > whenever u hv free time.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > > > > > > > Re: what lagna

> > > > should be

> > > > > > > > taken

> > > > > > > > > > for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:31 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Anand ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Please confirm whether this liquidity you are

> looking

> > > > for,

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > due

> > > > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > > > sale of property or not ? Or any other source.

> This is

> > > > to

> > > > > > > > confirm

> > > > > > > > > > > > whether my observations are right or not.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

> com,

> > > > > > " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > If its from sale of property, then yes you have

> a good

> > > > > > > > chances.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I normally charge a good amount for Birth

> > > > rectification

> > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > > > clients. You have already saved that.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > You will appreciate that astrologers who can do

> Birth

> > > > > > > > > > rectification

> > > > > > > > > > > > > properly in india, can be counted on fingers,

> but

> > > > apart

> > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > > > none

> > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > these will give you explanations for this, as I

> have

> > > > done,

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > always

> > > > > > > > > > > > do

> > > > > > > > > > > > > on these Groups so that others can learn.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Any further queries can be addressed to me on a

> > > > > > professional

> > > > > > > > vein

> > > > > > > > > > .

> > > > > > > > > > > > You

> > > > > > > > > > > > > will appreciate that Astrology being my

> profession and

> > > > > > having

> > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > family

> > > > > > > > > > > > > to look after, my duties lie towards

> professionalism

> > > > too.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

> com,

> > > > Anand

> > > > > > Jain

> > > > > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no words for thanks as you have devoted

> > > > valueable

> > > > > > > > time.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, If U don't mind and hv some time for me,

> is

> > > > there

> > > > > > any

> > > > > > > > clue

> > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > betterment for me or expecting any huge

> liquidity

> > > > before

> > > > > > > > > > 18.7.2009.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand jain

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what

> lagna

> > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > taken

> > > > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

> com

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 8:09 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I took up Your case for judgement at 9th Jul

> 2009 ,

> > > > that

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > > yesterday

> > > > > > > > > > > > > at Bombay in evening at 18.21.08

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what is the Ruling Planets Theory.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whenever an astrologer sincerely wishes to

> confirm

> > > > some

> > > > > > data

> > > > > > > > > > > > available

> > > > > > > > > > > > > before him, and does not have any further

> inputs, then

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > Divine

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Configurations of the stars in the sky come to

> his

> > > > rescue.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is to be done here.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > One must note at time of judgement what is the

> > > > > > prevailing

> > > > > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lord,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day

> Lord.

> > > > This is

> > > > > > > > known

> > > > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > LSRD.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > At time of judgement taken by me, the Lagna

> was

> > > > > > Sagittarius,

> > > > > > > > > > Moon

> > > > > > > > > > > > Star

> > > > > > > > > > > > > was Uttarasadha, Moon Raashi was Capricorn, and

> the

> > > > Day

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > Wednesday.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > So taking all the Lords of these points we

> have the

> > > > LSRD

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > Jupiter,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The Sun, Saturn and Mercury. There is a rule

> that if

> > > > Rahu

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > Ketu

> > > > > > > > > > > > > occupies the raashi iof any of these Lords, then

> one

> > > > must

> > > > > > > > change

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently occupying

> > > > Capricorn

> > > > > > owned

> > > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of

> Saturn.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the New LSRD is Jupiter, The Sun, Rahu and

> > > > Mercury.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one check whether the Lagna arrived

> at the

> > > > > > recorded

> > > > > > > > > > Birth

> > > > > > > > > > > > > time is correct ?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra

> Lord and

> > > > the

> > > > > > Sub

> > > > > > > > Lord

> > > > > > > > > > > > > planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that

> the

> > > > > > recorded

> > > > > > > > time

> > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > correct.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > With your given birth time of 19.30 at Delhi

> Birth,

> > > > on

> > > > > > 14th

> > > > > > > > > > October

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1960 the Lagna arrived at was Taurus 00.04.43

> using KP

> > > > > > > > Ayanamsha

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord was The Sun and the Sub Lord was

> Rahu.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we have Sun and Rahu both in our LSRD at

> time

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > judgement

> > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bombay we accept that the Birth time is correct.

> > > > (Though

> > > > > > > > whether

> > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > take

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Aries or Taurus Lagna was still not solved, at

> least I

> > > > > > knew

> > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > above

> > > > > > > > > > > > > xcersise, that your time of Birth was nearly

> right and

> > > > not

> > > > > > > > many

> > > > > > > > > > > > minutes

> > > > > > > > > > > > > apart).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I faced 2 more problems which made me

> study

> > > > further

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1st problem - Using Taurus Lagna when I tried

> to

> > > > match

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > events of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > your Life. Nothing matched.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd problem - When the events did not match. I

> was

> > > > in a

> > > > > > > > > > quandary. I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > checked the minute divisions of the degrees and

> > > > realised

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 29.13.20 degrees of Aries uptil 01.13.20 degrees

> of

> > > > > > Taurus,

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord and the SubLord would remain

> same. In

> > > > > > simple

> > > > > > > > > > language

> > > > > > > > > > > > > this means that you could have born about 3

> minutes

> > > > before

> > > > > > > > close

> > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Mesha Lagna and 3 minutes after close of Mesha

> Lagna,

> > > > yet

> > > > > > Star

> > > > > > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub lord would still remain same.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I made one more additional Horary chart to

> recheck

> > > > this

> > > > > > > > (This is

> > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > advanced technique . Cannot write here because

> many

> > > > will

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > understand

> > > > > > > > > > > > > and to make one understand I will have to write

> > > > another

> > > > > > page

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > everyone will get confused with so much at a

> time) and

> > > > > > found

> > > > > > > > Mars

> > > > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > > > figuring in the prominent planets. This gave me

> a clue

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > went

> > > > > > > > > > ahead

> > > > > > > > > > > > > and fixed the Birth time as 19.29.30 without

> meddling

> > > > too

> > > > > > much

> > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > recorded time.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna arrived at is,Aries 29.56.02

> Star Lord

> > > > and

> > > > > > Sub

> > > > > > > > > > Lord

> > > > > > > > > > > > > remain same as in previous birth time of

> 19.30.00 IST

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now to match the events -

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage on 23.11.85 Venus-Venus . Venus

> > > > signifies

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > houses

> > > > > > > > > > 2

> > > > > > > > > > > > > and 7 required to be activated primarily for

> marriage.

> > > > If

> > > > > > You

> > > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > software which shows the significators, then

> note that

> > > > > > Venus

> > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > only

> > > > > > > > > > > > > planet among the 9 Planets in your chart, which

> shows

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > SubLord

> > > > > > > > > > > > again

> > > > > > > > > > > > > as Venus signifying, 2,7 and 9.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) First daughter 16.12.1986 Venus - Sun. The

> Sun

> > > > > > signifies

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > 5th

> > > > > > > > > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Second daughter 21.09.1988 Venus-Moon-Sun.

> mars

> > > > about

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > enter on

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd October 1988. Both Sun and Mars signify the

> 5th

> > > > house.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Father expired on 10.8.1990 Rahu amongst

> other

> > > > houses

> > > > > > > > > > signifies

> > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th and 9th house too.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will not get the above matching by Taurus

> Lagna

> > > > at

> > > > > > all,

> > > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > > > whatever stretch.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope my time spent is of use to You.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

> com,

> > > > > > > > " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already done some work on this. But

> before

> > > > we

> > > > > > move

> > > > > > > > > > further

> > > > > > > > > > > > > could

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you pl. call me on my cell number

> 9323522663, so

> > > > that

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > could

> > > > > > > > > > > > spend

> > > > > > > > > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time on same.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@

> .

> > > > com,

> > > > > > Anand

> > > > > > > > Jain

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful manner, as u r explaining

> to

> > > > us.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.10.1960 19.30 Delhi

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married on 23.11.85

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first daughter 16.12.1986

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd daughter 21.9.1988

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father expired 10.8.1990

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Detained by Custom officials on 29.12.1990

> and

> > > > case

> > > > > > > > > > finalised on

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.4.2000

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand Jain

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/7/09, Bhaskar

> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:

> what

> > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > > > taken for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@

> . com

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 8 July, 2009, 6:19 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If You are using KP ayanamsha then it will

> the

> > > > same

> > > > > > > > Lagna.

> > > > > > > > > > If

> > > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > using Lahiris or Ramans then there may be

> a

> > > > doubt of

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > Lagna.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > (This

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > presuming that your time of Birth is

> accurate).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But before that there is a process known

> as

> > > > Ruling

> > > > > > > > Planets

> > > > > > > > > > > > theory

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will help you guide to the right Lagna. If

> You

> > > > put

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > birth

> > > > > > > > > > > > > details

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here, I will make a Live example of this

> process

> > > > so

> > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > > those

> > > > > > > > > > > > who

> > > > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not familiar with this can learn.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also put a few incindets from your Life,

> > > > marriage

> > > > > > date

> > > > > > > > (If

> > > > > > > > > > You

> > > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married, childrens birth date,) date of

> > > > employment

> > > > > > etc.

> > > > > > > > > > whatever

> > > > > > > > > > > > > major

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > incidents you remember, limiting it to 5 ,

> so

> > > > that

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > mail

> > > > > > > > > > does

> > > > > > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > too long .

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@

> .

> > > > com,

> > > > > > > > > > " swarup1068 "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <swarup1068@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will u pl clarify, if horoscope of any

> native

> > > > > > shows

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > > > degree

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of 00:01, what lagna should be taken for

> > > > prediction

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand jain

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand jain ji

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls remov ur phone Numbr along with

> posts

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds Team grp managemnt

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the

> new

> > > > and

> > > > > > safer

> > > > > > > > > > Internet

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads. /

> > > > > > in/internetexplo

> > > > > > > > rer/

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by

> people

> > > > > > like

> > > > > > > > you.

> > > > > > > > > > Check

> > > > > > > > > > > > > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. /

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and

> safer

> > > > > > Internet

> > > > > > > > > > Explorer 8.

> http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 12, 2009

Dear Bhagavathi ji,

Okay your point is taken and accepted thanks. I appreciate aso your

being able to give correct predictions without having enough practice

due to your being a non professional astrologer.

The other point has not been accepted by me . There is nothing like " My

generation " and " your generation in astrology. Who told you I am a old

person ? I prefer to be like Dev anand - " always young " and " evergreen " .

And the more older the whisky is, the better it tastes.

Hope this brings a smile upon the reader.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

, " bhagavathi_hariharan "

<bhagavathi_hariharan wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji,

>

> I have the highest respects for you. You have a class of your own,

there is no doubt in that. You always stand apart in a crowd. I am not

trying to prove anything by this representation. I posted that to say

that he knows " some astrology " atleast. After all, he belongs to my

generation.

>

> Between 2001 and 2008 I made 18 predictions. I am not a professional

astrologer, so the number is less. Of 18- one was not correct, I think

because the person is active in groups, I did not get a feedback. Three

predictions are in deposit, will mature in 2010/2011. All others were

true.

>

> This year in 2009, so far I made three predictions, 2 for my family

members. One for my relative about child birth, then the other for my

niece, who had written her 12th exam. I said she would pass with flying

colors, get an award, and keep our family custom on top. She scored 96%,

stood first in sanskrit in all the state. I predicted the day of the

result, and also said she would become a doctor. She did not get

admission in a good medical college but has chosen bio-engineering in a

well reputed college.

>

> The other prediction is for a co-worker as the time when he will start

dating a girl- have to see.

>

> Now this does not mean I am the best astrologers in the world. This

only gave me an indication that I can continue with my studies in

astrology. I also got another topic for research- RAHU is somehow

involved in astrology to a full extent. Rahu initially gives and tempts

a person, slowly he tempts the person to a higher dose, then depending

on whether favorable or not, the person is a success or failure. Now I

am running Rahu dasha, although started astrology at age 10, started

predicting only in 2001. Then got tempted, got deeply involved- I cannot

predict the outcome of myself and my future.

>

> Regards,

> bhagavathi

>

> , " Bhaskar "

bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhagvathi ji,

> >

> > What is being tried to prove by this one sided representation ? I

have

> > got at least a 1000 mails displaying thanks and gratitude for

correct

> > predictions.

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > ,

" bhagavathi_hariharan "

> > <bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear all,

> > >

> > > I thought of sharing an incident. A senior man, member of another

> > group where I am active wanted a chart reading. He preferred a face

to

> > face reading in Jaipur, where he lived. This man has his own

business.

> > He was routed completely financially. He requested me to suggest

> > soemone. Through groups, I was aware of Vijayji in Jaipur. This man

went

> > to him. Couple of days back, I received an email from him saying

that

> > Vijayji's predictions came true. He also was happy the way Vijayji

> > treated him.

> > >

> > > I do not have permision to discuss his chart. But briefly, I shall

> > give the prediction as emailed to me by the native

> > >

> > > //Respected Bhagavathiji,

> > >

> > > I do not wish to share any details in any forum or with anyone. I

> > trust you for privacy policy.

> > >

> > > First, I thank you whole heartedly for refering me to a nice

> > gentleman. He had predcited that I would get money this time. In

brief,

> > this is what he wrote:

> > >

> > > Now you are running the antar dasa of vargottama moon in mercury

> > dasha. This antar will surely give you wealth especially between may

to

> > july 09.

> > >

> > > It is 100% true. On May 20, I got a new offer from a garment store

for

> > my supply. It is not a big offer as it was in the past but this

surely

> > is a relief from my bad finances.

> > >

> > > May Krsna brings peace and comfort in your life ! for reffering me

to

> > a good astrologer

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > #########

> > > Jaipur.

> > > (I have masked the name to conceal identity)

> > >

> > > , " Vijay Goel "

goyalvj@

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Bhaskerji,

> > > >

> > > > I am younger brother to you, and i am also 'bit use to' with the

> > attitude of big brother.

> > > > Your mail only reminded me one great research astrologer Shri H

N

> > Katwe, he was also very very harsh and all his life he was shouting

on

> > one and other. He himself has said this in his books. He even not

spared

> > his closest friend who gave him shelter all his life.

> > > > Interesting story ! ) Since this person was clear heart and a

> > genuine scholar he wrote his life events in black & white.

> > > >

> > > > Seriously this time your harsh mails does not affected me but

only

> > reminded him and nothing else.

> > > >

> > > > I am here in this forum only to share some astrological

experiences

> > and i am not at all good at teaching and explaining still i am

trying my

> > best.

> > > >

> > > > I only know one thing that learning astrology does not comes

easily

> > for me.

> > > >

> > > > Thankyou,

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > Jaipur.

> > > >

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have been a wee bit harsh on you. I am sorry for that. Bade

log

> > aise

> > > > > hi hote hain, thode crack, thoda screw dheela and eccentric.

Hum

> > tumse

> > > > > pahle chale jayeenge upar, isliye hame maaf kar dena bhai.

Hope

> > our love

> > > > > will overcome these puny matters .

> > > > >

> > > > > best wishes,

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Vijay Goel "

> > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are always respected as an well versed senior KP

astrologer.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It will be a great pleasure for me to have cup of tea with

you.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thankyou,

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Vijay ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > No I was not sure actually whether you are in Jaipur or

not.

> > just

> > > > > > > faintly remembered so. So I was confirming that by (?).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Since you have given me your number and address, (I will

be

> > putting

> > > > > up

> > > > > > > very near to your address)I will wait for your call to

invite

> > me

> > > > > over

> > > > > > > for a cup of tea, but pyaar se bulaoge tab hi bulaana

mujhe.

> > Agar

> > > > > logon

> > > > > > > se " Madman " kar ke introduce karna hai, toh Bhai maaf

karo.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I hope this episode will be left behind when we meet.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Vijay

Goel "

> > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > your quote :

> > > > > > > > // " I am going to Jaipur (Your location?) " //

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am at D-687, Near Gaurav Tower, Malviya Nagar, Jaipur.

> > > > > > > > My phone number is 9214502239.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You are warmly welcome at Jaipur. I advise you to visit

the

> > Rishi

> > > > > > > Parashar Ashram located near to Sarika National park on

Alwar

> > route.

> > > > > > > > It is said that on that place Parashar stayed and done

all

> > his

> > > > > works.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thankyou,

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ,

" Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am not convinced by this explanation. What you have

> > given is

> > > > > only

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > position and placement of the planets and their

aspects on

> > each

> > > > > > > other .

> > > > > > > > > Where is the logic part ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > As regards to My KP Method. There is nothing like

yours

> > and

> > > > > mines.

> > > > > > > KP

> > > > > > > > > has come from Parashari so nothing strange or unknown

> > quality

> > > > > about

> > > > > > > it.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ,

" Vijay

> > Goel "

> > > > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > your quote :

> > > > > > > > > > ////when I reach the conclusion that he can get

> > liquidity from

> > > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said

uptil

> > Now ?

> > > > > This

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden

logs,

> > so

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well

as

> > the

> > > > > > > logs " .////

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > You may be right, ha ha but i have not denied

your

> > hard

> > > > > work, i

> > > > > > > > > have given my views based on your conclusion, whats

wrong

> > in it?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > You find moon antar better, its your KP method; i

find

> > mars

> > > > > antar

> > > > > > > > > better in terms of property matter, its my view.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Reasons :

> > > > > > > > > > In D-1 chart :

> > > > > > > > > > Moon is in 3H in karka in papkartari yoga aspected

by

> > none.

> > > > > > > > > > In D-9:

> > > > > > > > > > Moon in 12H as 7L aspected by venus as 10L & 5L.

> > > > > > > > > > In D-4 :

> > > > > > > > > > Moon in 9H in papkartari yoga aspected by venus and

> > mercury.

> > > > > Here

> > > > > > > > > position improves for property related matters.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In all three chart, involvement of 4th house is

> > negligible so

> > > > > > > property

> > > > > > > > > related matters will hardly fructify, only in D-4

chart,

> > 2nd

> > > > > house

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > involved. If we observe moon in D-10 chart than this

antar

> > of

> > > > > moon

> > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > bring lot of hard work and short travels related to

career

> > and

> > > > > > > > > profession.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Now look at mars:

> > > > > > > > > > D-1:

> > > > > > > > > > Mars in 2nd house aspected by saturn and jupiter.

saturn

> > is

> > > > > > > aspecting

> > > > > > > > > sun the 4L.

> > > > > > > > > > D-9:

> > > > > > > > > > mars is 4L in 3H aspected by saturn (2L) ans sun.

> > > > > > > > > > D-4:

> > > > > > > > > > Mars with jupiter in 8H aspecting 2H and sun as 4L

is

> > > > > aspecting

> > > > > > > mars

> > > > > > > > > > from 2H.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In all above chart it is clear that mars has more

> > linkage to

> > > > > 4th

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > 2H related matters.Hence i find it more appropriate.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ************

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thankyou,

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > > > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > > > > > > > If any person want to have any peaceful discussion

on

> > this

> > > > > matter

> > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > have any doubts he\she can call me on my mobile or

email

> > me.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ,

> > " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goelji,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Shri KN Rao ji has written much. Which of his

> > teachings

> > > > > impies

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > Lagna is Vrishabha and not Mesha.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Why will Moon antardasha not appropriate for

selling

> > > > > property ?

> > > > > > > The

> > > > > > > > > > > reasons - Astrological? Why dpo you think that the

> > Mars

> > > > > dasha

> > > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > more beneficial ? The reasons ? - Astrological ?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Why are the reasons very simple and need no

> > explanations. I

> > > > > > > cannot

> > > > > > > > > > > understand this simplicity. Can You explain ?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > And where were you when all this was discussed

uptil

> > now.

> > > > > You

> > > > > > > come

> > > > > > > > > back,

> > > > > > > > > > > when I reach the conclusion that he can get

liquidity

> > from

> > > > > some

> > > > > > > > > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said

> > uptil Now

> > > > > ?

> > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the

wooden

> > logs,

> > > > > so

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as

well

> > as the

> > > > > > > logs " .

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Mars antar is going to be a very malefic period

for

> > him .

> > > > > What

> > > > > > > > > rubbish

> > > > > > > > > > > are you talking that it will be beneficial. Do you

> > know even

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > basics

> > > > > > > > > > > of astrology ?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > After the story of Ramayana has been heard by

people,

> > You

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > now

> > > > > > > > > > > talking " I will tell you who is Ram and Sita " .

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Please explain us what is simple which needs no

> > explanation

> > > > > ?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > ,

> > " Vijay

> > > > > Goel "

> > > > > > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji Jain,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on

the

> > birth

> > > > > > > details

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his

various

> > books.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Now in your horoscope the antar of moon is

running.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Moon MD: 2008-11-17 - 2018-11-17

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Antardasas in this MD:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Moon: 2008-11-17 - 2009-09-17

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mars: 2009-09-17 - 2010-04-18

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > But i don't find Moon antar dasa appropriate for

> > selling

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > property,

> > > > > > > > > > > this antar will not fetch you a good buyer instead

it

> > will

> > > > > > > create

> > > > > > > > > lot of

> > > > > > > > > > > frustration. I think Mars antar dasa starting from

> > 17th sep

> > > > > 09

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > 18th

> > > > > > > > > > > april 10 will be more beneficial.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > The reasons was very simple and needs no

> > explanation.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > ,

> > Anand

> > > > > Jain

> > > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, you are not even 100% absolutely

right

> > it is

> > > > > > > 1000%

> > > > > > > > > > > correct as there is no other way to create the

> > liquidity.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Myself behind on the matter from last one year

but

> > could

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > get

> > > > > > > > > > > appropriate buyer.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > With best of my regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand Jain

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I will call u tomorrow over phone, u may give

me a

> > miss

> > > > > call

> > > > > > > > > > > whenever u hv free time.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: what

lagna

> > > > > should be

> > > > > > > > > taken

> > > > > > > > > > > for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:31 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Please confirm whether this liquidity you are

> > looking

> > > > > for,

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > due

> > > > > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > > > > sale of property or not ? Or any other source.

> > This is

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > confirm

> > > > > > > > > > > > > whether my observations are right or not.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

> > com,

> > > > > > > " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If its from sale of property, then yes you

have

> > a good

> > > > > > > > > chances.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I normally charge a good amount for Birth

> > > > > rectification

> > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > clients. You have already saved that.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will appreciate that astrologers who can

do

> > Birth

> > > > > > > > > > > rectification

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > properly in india, can be counted on

fingers,

> > but

> > > > > apart

> > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > > > > none

> > > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > these will give you explanations for this,

as I

> > have

> > > > > done,

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > always

> > > > > > > > > > > > > do

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > on these Groups so that others can learn.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any further queries can be addressed to me

on a

> > > > > > > professional

> > > > > > > > > vein

> > > > > > > > > > > .

> > > > > > > > > > > > > You

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > will appreciate that Astrology being my

> > profession and

> > > > > > > having

> > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > family

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to look after, my duties lie towards

> > professionalism

> > > > > too.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@

.

> > com,

> > > > > Anand

> > > > > > > Jain

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no words for thanks as you have

devoted

> > > > > valueable

> > > > > > > > > time.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, If U don't mind and hv some time for

me,

> > is

> > > > > there

> > > > > > > any

> > > > > > > > > clue

> > > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > betterment for me or expecting any huge

> > liquidity

> > > > > before

> > > > > > > > > > > 18.7.2009.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand jain

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar

bhaskar_jyotish@

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:

what

> > lagna

> > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > taken

> > > > > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@

.

> > com

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 8:09 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I took up Your case for judgement at 9th

Jul

> > 2009 ,

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > > > yesterday

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > at Bombay in evening at 18.21.08

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what is the Ruling Planets Theory.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whenever an astrologer sincerely wishes to

> > confirm

> > > > > some

> > > > > > > data

> > > > > > > > > > > > > available

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > before him, and does not have any further

> > inputs, then

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > Divine

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Configurations of the stars in the sky come

to

> > his

> > > > > rescue.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is to be done here.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One must note at time of judgement what is

the

> > > > > > > prevailing

> > > > > > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day

> > Lord.

> > > > > This is

> > > > > > > > > known

> > > > > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > LSRD.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At time of judgement taken by me, the

Lagna

> > was

> > > > > > > Sagittarius,

> > > > > > > > > > > Moon

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Star

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > was Uttarasadha, Moon Raashi was Capricorn,

and

> > the

> > > > > Day

> > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So taking all the Lords of these points we

> > have the

> > > > > LSRD

> > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Sun, Saturn and Mercury. There is a rule

> > that if

> > > > > Rahu

> > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > Ketu

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > occupies the raashi iof any of these Lords,

then

> > one

> > > > > must

> > > > > > > > > change

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently

occupying

> > > > > Capricorn

> > > > > > > owned

> > > > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of

> > Saturn.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the New LSRD is Jupiter, The Sun, Rahu

and

> > > > > Mercury.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one check whether the Lagna

arrived

> > at the

> > > > > > > recorded

> > > > > > > > > > > Birth

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > time is correct ?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra

> > Lord and

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > Sub

> > > > > > > > > Lord

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > planet same as in the LSRD, then it means

that

> > the

> > > > > > > recorded

> > > > > > > > > time

> > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > correct.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With your given birth time of 19.30 at

Delhi

> > Birth,

> > > > > on

> > > > > > > 14th

> > > > > > > > > > > October

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1960 the Lagna arrived at was Taurus

00.04.43

> > using KP

> > > > > > > > > Ayanamsha

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord was The Sun and the Sub Lord

was

> > Rahu.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we have Sun and Rahu both in our

LSRD at

> > time

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > judgement

> > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bombay we accept that the Birth time is

correct.

> > > > > (Though

> > > > > > > > > whether

> > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > take

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aries or Taurus Lagna was still not solved,

at

> > least I

> > > > > > > knew

> > > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > > above

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > xcersise, that your time of Birth was nearly

> > right and

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > many

> > > > > > > > > > > > > minutes

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > apart).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I faced 2 more problems which made me

> > study

> > > > > further

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1st problem - Using Taurus Lagna when I

tried

> > to

> > > > > match

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > events of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > your Life. Nothing matched.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd problem - When the events did not

match. I

> > was

> > > > > in a

> > > > > > > > > > > quandary. I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > checked the minute divisions of the degrees

and

> > > > > realised

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 29.13.20 degrees of Aries uptil 01.13.20

degrees

> > of

> > > > > > > Taurus,

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord and the SubLord would remain

> > same. In

> > > > > > > simple

> > > > > > > > > > > language

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > this means that you could have born about 3

> > minutes

> > > > > before

> > > > > > > > > close

> > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mesha Lagna and 3 minutes after close of

Mesha

> > Lagna,

> > > > > yet

> > > > > > > Star

> > > > > > > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub lord would still remain same.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I made one more additional Horary chart to

> > recheck

> > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > (This is

> > > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > advanced technique . Cannot write here

because

> > many

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > understand

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and to make one understand I will have to

write

> > > > > another

> > > > > > > page

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > everyone will get confused with so much at a

> > time) and

> > > > > > > found

> > > > > > > > > Mars

> > > > > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > figuring in the prominent planets. This gave

me

> > a clue

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > went

> > > > > > > > > > > ahead

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and fixed the Birth time as 19.29.30 without

> > meddling

> > > > > too

> > > > > > > much

> > > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > recorded time.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna arrived at is,Aries 29.56.02

> > Star Lord

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > Sub

> > > > > > > > > > > Lord

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > remain same as in previous birth time of

> > 19.30.00 IST

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now to match the events -

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage on 23.11.85 Venus-Venus .

Venus

> > > > > signifies

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > houses

> > > > > > > > > > > 2

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and 7 required to be activated primarily for

> > marriage.

> > > > > If

> > > > > > > You

> > > > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > software which shows the significators, then

> > note that

> > > > > > > Venus

> > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > only

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > planet among the 9 Planets in your chart,

which

> > shows

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > SubLord

> > > > > > > > > > > > > again

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > as Venus signifying, 2,7 and 9.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) First daughter 16.12.1986 Venus - Sun.

The

> > Sun

> > > > > > > signifies

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > 5th

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Second daughter 21.09.1988

Venus-Moon-Sun.

> > mars

> > > > > about

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > enter on

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd October 1988. Both Sun and Mars signify

the

> > 5th

> > > > > house.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Father expired on 10.8.1990 Rahu

amongst

> > other

> > > > > houses

> > > > > > > > > > > signifies

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th and 9th house too.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will not get the above matching by

Taurus

> > Lagna

> > > > > at

> > > > > > > all,

> > > > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > whatever stretch.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope my time spent is of use to You.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@

.

> > com,

> > > > > > > > > " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already done some work on this.

But

> > before

> > > > > we

> > > > > > > move

> > > > > > > > > > > further

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > could

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you pl. call me on my cell number

> > 9323522663, so

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > could

> > > > > > > > > > > > > spend

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time on same.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@

> > .

> > > > > com,

> > > > > > > Anand

> > > > > > > > > Jain

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful manner, as u r

explaining

> > to

> > > > > us.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.10.1960 19.30 Delhi

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married on 23.11.85

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first daughter 16.12.1986

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd daughter 21.9.1988

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father expired 10.8.1990

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Detained by Custom officials on

29.12.1990

> > and

> > > > > case

> > > > > > > > > > > finalised on

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.4.2000

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand Jain

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/7/09, Bhaskar

> > bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology]

Re:

> > what

> > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > taken for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@

> > . com

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 8 July, 2009, 6:19 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If You are using KP ayanamsha then it

will

> > the

> > > > > same

> > > > > > > > > Lagna.

> > > > > > > > > > > If

> > > > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > using Lahiris or Ramans then there may

be

> > a

> > > > > doubt of

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > Lagna.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (This

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > presuming that your time of Birth is

> > accurate).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But before that there is a process

known

> > as

> > > > > Ruling

> > > > > > > > > Planets

> > > > > > > > > > > > > theory

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will help you guide to the right

Lagna. If

> > You

> > > > > put

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > birth

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > details

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here, I will make a Live example of

this

> > process

> > > > > so

> > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > > > those

> > > > > > > > > > > > > who

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not familiar with this can learn.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also put a few incindets from your

Life,

> > > > > marriage

> > > > > > > date

> > > > > > > > > (If

> > > > > > > > > > > You

> > > > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married, childrens birth date,) date

of

> > > > > employment

> > > > > > > etc.

> > > > > > > > > > > whatever

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > major

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > incidents you remember, limiting it to

5 ,

> > so

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > mail

> > > > > > > > > > > does

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > too long .

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@

> > .

> > > > > com,

> > > > > > > > > > > " swarup1068 "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <swarup1068@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will u pl clarify, if horoscope of

any

> > native

> > > > > > > shows

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > degree

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of 00:01, what lagna should be taken

for

> > > > > prediction

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand jain

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand jain ji

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls remov ur phone Numbr along with

> > posts

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds Team grp managemnt

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to

the

> > new

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > safer

> > > > > > > > > > > Internet

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads. /

> > > > > > > in/internetexplo

> > > > > > > > > rer/

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen

by

> > people

> > > > > > > like

> > > > > > > > > you.

> > > > > > > > > > > Check

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. /

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new

and

> > safer

> > > > > > > Internet

> > > > > > > > > > > Explorer 8.

> > http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 12, 2009

Dear Bhaskarji,

Agreed. The saying is " man and horse never become old " . I would always love to

see you like my favorite actor Dev anand- sau saal pehle... aaj bhi hai... aur

kal...

Happy times always

regards,

bhagavathi

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhagavathi ji,

>

> Okay your point is taken and accepted thanks. I appreciate aso your

> being able to give correct predictions without having enough practice

> due to your being a non professional astrologer.

>

> The other point has not been accepted by me . There is nothing like " My

> generation " and " your generation in astrology. Who told you I am a old

> person ? I prefer to be like Dev anand - " always young " and " evergreen " .

> And the more older the whisky is, the better it tastes.

>

> Hope this brings a smile upon the reader.

>

> best wishes,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " bhagavathi_hariharan "

> <bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskarji,

> >

> > I have the highest respects for you. You have a class of your own,

> there is no doubt in that. You always stand apart in a crowd. I am not

> trying to prove anything by this representation. I posted that to say

> that he knows " some astrology " atleast. After all, he belongs to my

> generation.

> >

> > Between 2001 and 2008 I made 18 predictions. I am not a professional

> astrologer, so the number is less. Of 18- one was not correct, I think

> because the person is active in groups, I did not get a feedback. Three

> predictions are in deposit, will mature in 2010/2011. All others were

> true.

> >

> > This year in 2009, so far I made three predictions, 2 for my family

> members. One for my relative about child birth, then the other for my

> niece, who had written her 12th exam. I said she would pass with flying

> colors, get an award, and keep our family custom on top. She scored 96%,

> stood first in sanskrit in all the state. I predicted the day of the

> result, and also said she would become a doctor. She did not get

> admission in a good medical college but has chosen bio-engineering in a

> well reputed college.

> >

> > The other prediction is for a co-worker as the time when he will start

> dating a girl- have to see.

> >

> > Now this does not mean I am the best astrologers in the world. This

> only gave me an indication that I can continue with my studies in

> astrology. I also got another topic for research- RAHU is somehow

> involved in astrology to a full extent. Rahu initially gives and tempts

> a person, slowly he tempts the person to a higher dose, then depending

> on whether favorable or not, the person is a success or failure. Now I

> am running Rahu dasha, although started astrology at age 10, started

> predicting only in 2001. Then got tempted, got deeply involved- I cannot

> predict the outcome of myself and my future.

> >

> > Regards,

> > bhagavathi

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhagvathi ji,

> > >

> > > What is being tried to prove by this one sided representation ? I

> have

> > > got at least a 1000 mails displaying thanks and gratitude for

> correct

> > > predictions.

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > ,

> " bhagavathi_hariharan "

> > > <bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear all,

> > > >

> > > > I thought of sharing an incident. A senior man, member of another

> > > group where I am active wanted a chart reading. He preferred a face

> to

> > > face reading in Jaipur, where he lived. This man has his own

> business.

> > > He was routed completely financially. He requested me to suggest

> > > soemone. Through groups, I was aware of Vijayji in Jaipur. This man

> went

> > > to him. Couple of days back, I received an email from him saying

> that

> > > Vijayji's predictions came true. He also was happy the way Vijayji

> > > treated him.

> > > >

> > > > I do not have permision to discuss his chart. But briefly, I shall

> > > give the prediction as emailed to me by the native

> > > >

> > > > //Respected Bhagavathiji,

> > > >

> > > > I do not wish to share any details in any forum or with anyone. I

> > > trust you for privacy policy.

> > > >

> > > > First, I thank you whole heartedly for refering me to a nice

> > > gentleman. He had predcited that I would get money this time. In

> brief,

> > > this is what he wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Now you are running the antar dasa of vargottama moon in mercury

> > > dasha. This antar will surely give you wealth especially between may

> to

> > > july 09.

> > > >

> > > > It is 100% true. On May 20, I got a new offer from a garment store

> for

> > > my supply. It is not a big offer as it was in the past but this

> surely

> > > is a relief from my bad finances.

> > > >

> > > > May Krsna brings peace and comfort in your life ! for reffering me

> to

> > > a good astrologer

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > #########

> > > > Jaipur.

> > > > (I have masked the name to conceal identity)

> > > >

> > > > , " Vijay Goel "

> goyalvj@

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I am younger brother to you, and i am also 'bit use to' with the

> > > attitude of big brother.

> > > > > Your mail only reminded me one great research astrologer Shri H

> N

> > > Katwe, he was also very very harsh and all his life he was shouting

> on

> > > one and other. He himself has said this in his books. He even not

> spared

> > > his closest friend who gave him shelter all his life.

> > > > > Interesting story ! ) Since this person was clear heart and a

> > > genuine scholar he wrote his life events in black & white.

> > > > >

> > > > > Seriously this time your harsh mails does not affected me but

> only

> > > reminded him and nothing else.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am here in this forum only to share some astrological

> experiences

> > > and i am not at all good at teaching and explaining still i am

> trying my

> > > best.

> > > > >

> > > > > I only know one thing that learning astrology does not comes

> easily

> > > for me.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thankyou,

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have been a wee bit harsh on you. I am sorry for that. Bade

> log

> > > aise

> > > > > > hi hote hain, thode crack, thoda screw dheela and eccentric.

> Hum

> > > tumse

> > > > > > pahle chale jayeenge upar, isliye hame maaf kar dena bhai.

> Hope

> > > our love

> > > > > > will overcome these puny matters .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Vijay Goel "

> > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You are always respected as an well versed senior KP

> astrologer.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It will be a great pleasure for me to have cup of tea with

> you.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thankyou,

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Vijay ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > No I was not sure actually whether you are in Jaipur or

> not.

> > > just

> > > > > > > > faintly remembered so. So I was confirming that by (?).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Since you have given me your number and address, (I will

> be

> > > putting

> > > > > > up

> > > > > > > > very near to your address)I will wait for your call to

> invite

> > > me

> > > > > > over

> > > > > > > > for a cup of tea, but pyaar se bulaoge tab hi bulaana

> mujhe.

> > > Agar

> > > > > > logon

> > > > > > > > se " Madman " kar ke introduce karna hai, toh Bhai maaf

> karo.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I hope this episode will be left behind when we meet.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Vijay

> Goel "

> > > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > your quote :

> > > > > > > > > // " I am going to Jaipur (Your location?) " //

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am at D-687, Near Gaurav Tower, Malviya Nagar, Jaipur.

> > > > > > > > > My phone number is 9214502239.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You are warmly welcome at Jaipur. I advise you to visit

> the

> > > Rishi

> > > > > > > > Parashar Ashram located near to Sarika National park on

> Alwar

> > > route.

> > > > > > > > > It is said that on that place Parashar stayed and done

> all

> > > his

> > > > > > works.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thankyou,

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ,

> " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I am not convinced by this explanation. What you have

> > > given is

> > > > > > only

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > position and placement of the planets and their

> aspects on

> > > each

> > > > > > > > other .

> > > > > > > > > > Where is the logic part ?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > As regards to My KP Method. There is nothing like

> yours

> > > and

> > > > > > mines.

> > > > > > > > KP

> > > > > > > > > > has come from Parashari so nothing strange or unknown

> > > quality

> > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > it.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ,

> " Vijay

> > > Goel "

> > > > > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > your quote :

> > > > > > > > > > > ////when I reach the conclusion that he can get

> > > liquidity from

> > > > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said

> uptil

> > > Now ?

> > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden

> logs,

> > > so

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well

> as

> > > the

> > > > > > > > logs " .////

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > You may be right, ha ha but i have not denied

> your

> > > hard

> > > > > > work, i

> > > > > > > > > > have given my views based on your conclusion, whats

> wrong

> > > in it?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > You find moon antar better, its your KP method; i

> find

> > > mars

> > > > > > antar

> > > > > > > > > > better in terms of property matter, its my view.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Reasons :

> > > > > > > > > > > In D-1 chart :

> > > > > > > > > > > Moon is in 3H in karka in papkartari yoga aspected

> by

> > > none.

> > > > > > > > > > > In D-9:

> > > > > > > > > > > Moon in 12H as 7L aspected by venus as 10L & 5L.

> > > > > > > > > > > In D-4 :

> > > > > > > > > > > Moon in 9H in papkartari yoga aspected by venus and

> > > mercury.

> > > > > > Here

> > > > > > > > > > position improves for property related matters.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > In all three chart, involvement of 4th house is

> > > negligible so

> > > > > > > > property

> > > > > > > > > > related matters will hardly fructify, only in D-4

> chart,

> > > 2nd

> > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > involved. If we observe moon in D-10 chart than this

> antar

> > > of

> > > > > > moon

> > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > > bring lot of hard work and short travels related to

> career

> > > and

> > > > > > > > > > profession.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Now look at mars:

> > > > > > > > > > > D-1:

> > > > > > > > > > > Mars in 2nd house aspected by saturn and jupiter.

> saturn

> > > is

> > > > > > > > aspecting

> > > > > > > > > > sun the 4L.

> > > > > > > > > > > D-9:

> > > > > > > > > > > mars is 4L in 3H aspected by saturn (2L) ans sun.

> > > > > > > > > > > D-4:

> > > > > > > > > > > Mars with jupiter in 8H aspecting 2H and sun as 4L

> is

> > > > > > aspecting

> > > > > > > > mars

> > > > > > > > > > > from 2H.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > In all above chart it is clear that mars has more

> > > linkage to

> > > > > > 4th

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > 2H related matters.Hence i find it more appropriate.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > ************

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou,

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > > > > > > > > If any person want to have any peaceful discussion

> on

> > > this

> > > > > > matter

> > > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > > have any doubts he\she can call me on my mobile or

> email

> > > me.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > ,

> > > " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goelji,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Shri KN Rao ji has written much. Which of his

> > > teachings

> > > > > > impies

> > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna is Vrishabha and not Mesha.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Why will Moon antardasha not appropriate for

> selling

> > > > > > property ?

> > > > > > > > The

> > > > > > > > > > > > reasons - Astrological? Why dpo you think that the

> > > Mars

> > > > > > dasha

> > > > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > > more beneficial ? The reasons ? - Astrological ?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Why are the reasons very simple and need no

> > > explanations. I

> > > > > > > > cannot

> > > > > > > > > > > > understand this simplicity. Can You explain ?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > And where were you when all this was discussed

> uptil

> > > now.

> > > > > > You

> > > > > > > > come

> > > > > > > > > > back,

> > > > > > > > > > > > when I reach the conclusion that he can get

> liquidity

> > > from

> > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > > > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said

> > > uptil Now

> > > > > > ?

> > > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the

> wooden

> > > logs,

> > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as

> well

> > > as the

> > > > > > > > logs " .

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mars antar is going to be a very malefic period

> for

> > > him .

> > > > > > What

> > > > > > > > > > rubbish

> > > > > > > > > > > > are you talking that it will be beneficial. Do you

> > > know even

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > basics

> > > > > > > > > > > > of astrology ?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > After the story of Ramayana has been heard by

> people,

> > > You

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > now

> > > > > > > > > > > > talking " I will tell you who is Ram and Sita " .

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Please explain us what is simple which needs no

> > > explanation

> > > > > > ?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > ,

> > > " Vijay

> > > > > > Goel "

> > > > > > > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji Jain,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on

> the

> > > birth

> > > > > > > > details

> > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his

> various

> > > books.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Now in your horoscope the antar of moon is

> running.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon MD: 2008-11-17 - 2018-11-17

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Antardasas in this MD:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon: 2008-11-17 - 2009-09-17

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars: 2009-09-17 - 2010-04-18

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > But i don't find Moon antar dasa appropriate for

> > > selling

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > property,

> > > > > > > > > > > > this antar will not fetch you a good buyer instead

> it

> > > will

> > > > > > > > create

> > > > > > > > > > lot of

> > > > > > > > > > > > frustration. I think Mars antar dasa starting from

> > > 17th sep

> > > > > > 09

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > 18th

> > > > > > > > > > > > april 10 will be more beneficial.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The reasons was very simple and needs no

> > > explanation.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ,

> > > Anand

> > > > > > Jain

> > > > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, you are not even 100% absolutely

> right

> > > it is

> > > > > > > > 1000%

> > > > > > > > > > > > correct as there is no other way to create the

> > > liquidity.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Myself behind on the matter from last one year

> but

> > > could

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > get

> > > > > > > > > > > > appropriate buyer.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > With best of my regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand Jain

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will call u tomorrow over phone, u may give

> me a

> > > miss

> > > > > > call

> > > > > > > > > > > > whenever u hv free time.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: what

> lagna

> > > > > > should be

> > > > > > > > > > taken

> > > > > > > > > > > > for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:31 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please confirm whether this liquidity you are

> > > looking

> > > > > > for,

> > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > due

> > > > > > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sale of property or not ? Or any other source.

> > > This is

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > confirm

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > whether my observations are right or not.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

> > > com,

> > > > > > > > " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If its from sale of property, then yes you

> have

> > > a good

> > > > > > > > > > chances.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I normally charge a good amount for Birth

> > > > > > rectification

> > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > clients. You have already saved that.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will appreciate that astrologers who can

> do

> > > Birth

> > > > > > > > > > > > rectification

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > properly in india, can be counted on

> fingers,

> > > but

> > > > > > apart

> > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > > > > > none

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these will give you explanations for this,

> as I

> > > have

> > > > > > done,

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > always

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > do

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on these Groups so that others can learn.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any further queries can be addressed to me

> on a

> > > > > > > > professional

> > > > > > > > > > vein

> > > > > > > > > > > > .

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will appreciate that Astrology being my

> > > profession and

> > > > > > > > having

> > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > family

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to look after, my duties lie towards

> > > professionalism

> > > > > > too.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@

> .

> > > com,

> > > > > > Anand

> > > > > > > > Jain

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no words for thanks as you have

> devoted

> > > > > > valueable

> > > > > > > > > > time.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, If U don't mind and hv some time for

> me,

> > > is

> > > > > > there

> > > > > > > > any

> > > > > > > > > > clue

> > > > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > betterment for me or expecting any huge

> > > liquidity

> > > > > > before

> > > > > > > > > > > > 18.7.2009.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand jain

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar

> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:

> what

> > > lagna

> > > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > > taken

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@

> .

> > > com

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 8:09 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I took up Your case for judgement at 9th

> Jul

> > > 2009 ,

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > yesterday

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at Bombay in evening at 18.21.08

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what is the Ruling Planets Theory.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whenever an astrologer sincerely wishes to

> > > confirm

> > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > data

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > available

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > before him, and does not have any further

> > > inputs, then

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > Divine

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Configurations of the stars in the sky come

> to

> > > his

> > > > > > rescue.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is to be done here.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One must note at time of judgement what is

> the

> > > > > > > > prevailing

> > > > > > > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day

> > > Lord.

> > > > > > This is

> > > > > > > > > > known

> > > > > > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LSRD.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At time of judgement taken by me, the

> Lagna

> > > was

> > > > > > > > Sagittarius,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Moon

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Star

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was Uttarasadha, Moon Raashi was Capricorn,

> and

> > > the

> > > > > > Day

> > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So taking all the Lords of these points we

> > > have the

> > > > > > LSRD

> > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Sun, Saturn and Mercury. There is a rule

> > > that if

> > > > > > Rahu

> > > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > > Ketu

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > occupies the raashi iof any of these Lords,

> then

> > > one

> > > > > > must

> > > > > > > > > > change

> > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently

> occupying

> > > > > > Capricorn

> > > > > > > > owned

> > > > > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of

> > > Saturn.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the New LSRD is Jupiter, The Sun, Rahu

> and

> > > > > > Mercury.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one check whether the Lagna

> arrived

> > > at the

> > > > > > > > recorded

> > > > > > > > > > > > Birth

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time is correct ?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra

> > > Lord and

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > Sub

> > > > > > > > > > Lord

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > planet same as in the LSRD, then it means

> that

> > > the

> > > > > > > > recorded

> > > > > > > > > > time

> > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > correct.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With your given birth time of 19.30 at

> Delhi

> > > Birth,

> > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > 14th

> > > > > > > > > > > > October

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1960 the Lagna arrived at was Taurus

> 00.04.43

> > > using KP

> > > > > > > > > > Ayanamsha

> > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord was The Sun and the Sub Lord

> was

> > > Rahu.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we have Sun and Rahu both in our

> LSRD at

> > > time

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > judgement

> > > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bombay we accept that the Birth time is

> correct.

> > > > > > (Though

> > > > > > > > > > whether

> > > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > take

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aries or Taurus Lagna was still not solved,

> at

> > > least I

> > > > > > > > knew

> > > > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > > > above

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > xcersise, that your time of Birth was nearly

> > > right and

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > many

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > minutes

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > apart).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I faced 2 more problems which made me

> > > study

> > > > > > further

> > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1st problem - Using Taurus Lagna when I

> tried

> > > to

> > > > > > match

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > events of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your Life. Nothing matched.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd problem - When the events did not

> match. I

> > > was

> > > > > > in a

> > > > > > > > > > > > quandary. I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > checked the minute divisions of the degrees

> and

> > > > > > realised

> > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 29.13.20 degrees of Aries uptil 01.13.20

> degrees

> > > of

> > > > > > > > Taurus,

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord and the SubLord would remain

> > > same. In

> > > > > > > > simple

> > > > > > > > > > > > language

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this means that you could have born about 3

> > > minutes

> > > > > > before

> > > > > > > > > > close

> > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mesha Lagna and 3 minutes after close of

> Mesha

> > > Lagna,

> > > > > > yet

> > > > > > > > Star

> > > > > > > > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub lord would still remain same.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I made one more additional Horary chart to

> > > recheck

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > (This is

> > > > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > advanced technique . Cannot write here

> because

> > > many

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > understand

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and to make one understand I will have to

> write

> > > > > > another

> > > > > > > > page

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everyone will get confused with so much at a

> > > time) and

> > > > > > > > found

> > > > > > > > > > Mars

> > > > > > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > figuring in the prominent planets. This gave

> me

> > > a clue

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > went

> > > > > > > > > > > > ahead

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and fixed the Birth time as 19.29.30 without

> > > meddling

> > > > > > too

> > > > > > > > much

> > > > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recorded time.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna arrived at is,Aries 29.56.02

> > > Star Lord

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > Sub

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lord

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > remain same as in previous birth time of

> > > 19.30.00 IST

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now to match the events -

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage on 23.11.85 Venus-Venus .

> Venus

> > > > > > signifies

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > houses

> > > > > > > > > > > > 2

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and 7 required to be activated primarily for

> > > marriage.

> > > > > > If

> > > > > > > > You

> > > > > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > software which shows the significators, then

> > > note that

> > > > > > > > Venus

> > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > only

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > planet among the 9 Planets in your chart,

> which

> > > shows

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > SubLord

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > again

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as Venus signifying, 2,7 and 9.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) First daughter 16.12.1986 Venus - Sun.

> The

> > > Sun

> > > > > > > > signifies

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > 5th

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Second daughter 21.09.1988

> Venus-Moon-Sun.

> > > mars

> > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > enter on

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd October 1988. Both Sun and Mars signify

> the

> > > 5th

> > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Father expired on 10.8.1990 Rahu

> amongst

> > > other

> > > > > > houses

> > > > > > > > > > > > signifies

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th and 9th house too.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will not get the above matching by

> Taurus

> > > Lagna

> > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > all,

> > > > > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whatever stretch.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope my time spent is of use to You.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@

> .

> > > com,

> > > > > > > > > > " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already done some work on this.

> But

> > > before

> > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > move

> > > > > > > > > > > > further

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you pl. call me on my cell number

> > > 9323522663, so

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > could

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > spend

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time on same.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@

> > > .

> > > > > > com,

> > > > > > > > Anand

> > > > > > > > > > Jain

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful manner, as u r

> explaining

> > > to

> > > > > > us.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.10.1960 19.30 Delhi

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married on 23.11.85

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first daughter 16.12.1986

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd daughter 21.9.1988

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father expired 10.8.1990

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Detained by Custom officials on

> 29.12.1990

> > > and

> > > > > > case

> > > > > > > > > > > > finalised on

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.4.2000

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand Jain

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/7/09, Bhaskar

> > > bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology]

> Re:

> > > what

> > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > taken for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@

> > > . com

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 8 July, 2009, 6:19 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If You are using KP ayanamsha then it

> will

> > > the

> > > > > > same

> > > > > > > > > > Lagna.

> > > > > > > > > > > > If

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > using Lahiris or Ramans then there may

> be

> > > a

> > > > > > doubt of

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (This

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > presuming that your time of Birth is

> > > accurate).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But before that there is a process

> known

> > > as

> > > > > > Ruling

> > > > > > > > > > Planets

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > theory

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will help you guide to the right

> Lagna. If

> > > You

> > > > > > put

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > birth

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > details

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here, I will make a Live example of

> this

> > > process

> > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > > > > those

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > who

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not familiar with this can learn.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also put a few incindets from your

> Life,

> > > > > > marriage

> > > > > > > > date

> > > > > > > > > > (If

> > > > > > > > > > > > You

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married, childrens birth date,) date

> of

> > > > > > employment

> > > > > > > > etc.

> > > > > > > > > > > > whatever

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > major

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > incidents you remember, limiting it to

> 5 ,

> > > so

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > mail

> > > > > > > > > > > > does

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > too long .

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@

> > > .

> > > > > > com,

> > > > > > > > > > > > " swarup1068 "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <swarup1068@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will u pl clarify, if horoscope of

> any

> > > native

> > > > > > > > shows

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > degree

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of 00:01, what lagna should be taken

> for

> > > > > > prediction

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand jain

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand jain ji

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls remov ur phone Numbr along with

> > > posts

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds Team grp managemnt

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to

> the

> > > new

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > safer

> > > > > > > > > > > > Internet

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads. /

> > > > > > > > in/internetexplo

> > > > > > > > > > rer/

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen

> by

> > > people

> > > > > > > > like

> > > > > > > > > > you.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Check

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. /

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new

> and

> > > safer

> > > > > > > > Internet

> > > > > > > > > > > > Explorer 8.

> > > http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

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>

July 12, 2009

Dear Vinoth kumar ji,

Please discuss with me only after you have introduced yourself.

I am not playing " Big Astrologer " game which is why I said 90% correct

future predictions for the native in question.

Time has already shown what has to be seen. But some people dont wish to

see what they dont want to.

Regarding " abuse " to Goelji there was none, and do not try to create

heat by mentioning such words.

Everybody here can understand why you are not giving any future

predictions for the antardasha. No sense in justifying why you cannot.

We all know why you cannot.

I have been here from the past 2 years so know what proceedings has to

be disturbed and what not. You are a newcomer and need not advise me on

that. But yet let me clarify my blood boils only when small mouths talk

BIG. 1-2 Book readers if they discuss as if they know all in

astrology and give judgements is not tolerable by me, unless they come

up with supporting logical evidence of the judgements they have given.

Now please give your intro b4 we discuss further.

Bhaskar.

, " vinothkumarmd "

<vinothkumarmd wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji

>

> You dont seem to get the essence of the post.Again i am reiterating my

point stated earlier that there is no use debating on future predictions

on the basis of astrological points.So i am not putting forth any

astrological points to discuss about the antardasha.

>

> i wrote the earlier post specifically for you because a day earlier to

that you wrote a post that you will not disturb the proceedings of the

forum and only concentrate on astrology.But in the conversation with

vijaygoel Ji i saw you contending astrological points for future

predictions(welcomed atleast because it is astrology) followed by strong

posts containing abuses directed at him personally when he had not

written anything personal against you.

>

> I feel happy that i did not write a reply post ahowing white flag

following your long " token of love for all members " post where you

seeked apology.If i had replied ,i would have been made a fool by you

the next day itself after seeing the post for vijaygoel ji

>

> Only time can tell " which antardasha gave money for the person " .what

is the use of playing " Who is Big astrologer " game now?, where time is

going to have the last laugh.

>

> so u agree that the 20% incorrectness which krishna is not giving you

generally may also mean this prediction can go wrong.so why should you

fight for which you are not 100% sure and only 90% sure(for this

particular case as according to you)

>

> We are certainly going to know in future which antardasha gave money

to the person and everyone of us here will come to know the truth.So

please wait till that.

>

> Regards

>

> vinoth

>

> which , " Bhaskar "

bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vinothkumar ji,

> >

> > I do not understand what is being tried to propogate here.

> >

> > If I give an analysis and somebody refutes my conclusions, then it

is

> > but normal, to ask for the reasons-astrological to the opposite

person

> > refuting my claims. If it leads to a fight, then so it be. The truth

> > must come out. One cannot just walk in a forum and REFUTE without

> > supporting evidence.

> >

> > You are talking about 100% guaranteed Predictions. What nonsense is

this

> > type of talking. What are you demanding. The sky to come on the

Earth ?

> > The water and sky to actually meet at the horzons. Is it possible ?

No

> > manufaturer of any product also gives and guarantee. They only give

> > " Warranty " .

> >

> > Has anybody heard of 100% Guarantee in astrological predictions?

Then

> > why this talk ?

> >

> > Do not reach. Talk practical please.

> >

> > Yet, I have confidence in my predictions and astrological knowledge,

and

> > they turn 80% right by Lord Shri Krishna Grace.

> >

> > In this particular case, they have been proved 100% right. For the

> > future I have mentioned, it will come 90% right, I have the

confidence.

> >

> > Try to negate the above statements, by astrological analysis against

my

> > claims of the next antardasha not turning benefic for the native in

> > Question. But no talk other than astrology.

> >

> > Preaching must only be done by those who have proved themselves.

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , " vinothkumarmd@ "

> > <vinothkumarmd@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear friends

> > >

> > > This is a general statement and does not refer to anybody.

> > >

> > > Quarells usually crop up when there are difference in opinion with

> > each other and both have some point by which they feel their stance

is

> > true.This is understandable.At the maximum one must avoid to pick up

> > quarells.Fighting first and then asking sorry is a great quality but

a

> > time waste escpecially for the one who wins a fight though his fight

> > will be centered to propagate correct astrological information and

not

> > for his prestige.

> > >

> > > The other member who loses the fight should realise and think

twice

> > before fighting.

> > >

> > > Following is a personal statement and request to Bhaskarji and

Vijay

> > goel Ji

> > >

> > > Both of you had difference of opinion regarding which antar will

give

> > liquidity

> > >

> > > Bhaskarji said moon

> > > Vijayji said Mars

> > >

> > > What is the use of fighting for future predictions?Fight was going

on

> > using astrological data as if the event has happened.Only time will

tell

> > who is correct

> > >

> > > so please avoid fighting for future predictions when escpecially

you

> > cannot give 100% guarantee for your clients

> > >

> > > If you can give 100% guarantee ,then i agree you have the right to

> > quarell

> > >

> > > regards

> > >

> > > Vinoth

> > >

> > > , neelam gupta

> > neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,

> > > >

> > > > //So both factors indicate that i am not wrong and tauras lagna

is

> > working.

> > > > The only thing is that i have not made comparison of all the

> > divisional

> > > > chart for Aries and Tauras lagna due to time constriant.//

> > > > I do not agree, in fact, on the contrary I see Aries rising

closer.

> > Just by

> > > > looking at transits one cannot conclude. In any case double

transit

> > on any

> > > > of the 4 factors becomes too general and cannot be used as

> > conclusive

> > > > evidence unless seen through natal and dasha promise, as well as

> > vargas.

> > > >

> > > > //Also this result was matching with Bhaskerji results.//

> > > > How? I do not see again. He also derived Aries lagna I think.

> > > >

> > > > I apologise for seeking these clarifications from you. This is a

> > part of

> > > > learning process for myself.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Neelam

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 12, 2009

Please ask the moderators to release the post i had written 3 days ago refuting

about your 1-2 books theory and age,experience theory and also contained my

introduction.You should definetely see that post which is my utmost desire .I am

sad that it has not been posted to public so far and i also requested to

moderators to post it-refer post 22065 to know the truth.

Predictions made by the astrologer speaks volumes about himself.In the quiz

posted by Manojchandran ji,everyone remembers thier own analysis and analysis by

others.Everyone here knows who all predicted close to the reality and who all

failed miserably in the basic questions asked-wifes job mainly,outcome of

children ,timing of birth of children.

If one goes by the above fact raised by you that those who proved themselves

with their astrolgoical predictions only have the right to speak,Everybody here

knows , " who are the members really have the right to speak or Preach. " based on

our member Manoj chandranji's quiz

" I " believe all my correct predictions are due to Lord Krishna's grace and all

wrong predictions are due to " fault of mine " .So by default and by my nature, " I "

am not going to boast about my the number of predictions where i was correct nor

the number of predictions where i was wrong.But just for your information,if my

other earlier post never gets published,i would like to tell you that " i " have

made predictions in multiples of 100 s and i am not a newbie to astrology but to

this forum.

regards

vinoth

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Vinoth kumar ji,

>

> Please discuss with me only after you have introduced yourself.

>

> I am not playing " Big Astrologer " game which is why I said 90% correct

> future predictions for the native in question.

>

> Time has already shown what has to be seen. But some people dont wish to

> see what they dont want to.

>

> Regarding " abuse " to Goelji there was none, and do not try to create

> heat by mentioning such words.

>

> Everybody here can understand why you are not giving any future

> predictions for the antardasha. No sense in justifying why you cannot.

> We all know why you cannot.

>

> I have been here from the past 2 years so know what proceedings has to

> be disturbed and what not. You are a newcomer and need not advise me on

> that. But yet let me clarify my blood boils only when small mouths talk

> BIG. 1-2 Book readers if they discuss as if they know all in

> astrology and give judgements is not tolerable by me, unless they come

> up with supporting logical evidence of the judgements they have given.

>

> Now please give your intro b4 we discuss further.

>

> Bhaskar.

, " vinothkumarmd@ "

> <vinothkumarmd@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskarji

> >

> > You dont seem to get the essence of the post.Again i am reiterating my

> point stated earlier that there is no use debating on future predictions

> on the basis of astrological points.So i am not putting forth any

> astrological points to discuss about the antardasha.

> >

> > i wrote the earlier post specifically for you because a day earlier to

> that you wrote a post that you will not disturb the proceedings of the

> forum and only concentrate on astrology.But in the conversation with

> vijaygoel Ji i saw you contending astrological points for future

> predictions(welcomed atleast because it is astrology) followed by strong

> posts containing abuses directed at him personally when he had not

> written anything personal against you.

> >

> > I feel happy that i did not write a reply post ahowing white flag

> following your long " token of love for all members " post where you

> seeked apology.If i had replied ,i would have been made a fool by you

> the next day itself after seeing the post for vijaygoel ji

> >

> > Only time can tell " which antardasha gave money for the person " .what

> is the use of playing " Who is Big astrologer " game now?, where time is

> going to have the last laugh.

> >

> > so u agree that the 20% incorrectness which krishna is not giving you

> generally may also mean this prediction can go wrong.so why should you

> fight for which you are not 100% sure and only 90% sure(for this

> particular case as according to you)

> >

> > We are certainly going to know in future which antardasha gave money

> to the person and everyone of us here will come to know the truth.So

> please wait till that.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > vinoth

> >

> > which , " Bhaskar "

> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vinothkumar ji,

> > >

> > > I do not understand what is being tried to propogate here.

> > >

> > > If I give an analysis and somebody refutes my conclusions, then it

> is

> > > but normal, to ask for the reasons-astrological to the opposite

> person

> > > refuting my claims. If it leads to a fight, then so it be. The truth

> > > must come out. One cannot just walk in a forum and REFUTE without

> > > supporting evidence.

> > >

> > > You are talking about 100% guaranteed Predictions. What nonsense is

> this

> > > type of talking. What are you demanding. The sky to come on the

> Earth ?

> > > The water and sky to actually meet at the horzons. Is it possible ?

> No

> > > manufaturer of any product also gives and guarantee. They only give

> > > " Warranty " .

> > >

> > > Has anybody heard of 100% Guarantee in astrological predictions?

> Then

> > > why this talk ?

> > >

> > > Do not reach. Talk practical please.

> > >

> > > Yet, I have confidence in my predictions and astrological knowledge,

> and

> > > they turn 80% right by Lord Shri Krishna Grace.

> > >

> > > In this particular case, they have been proved 100% right. For the

> > > future I have mentioned, it will come 90% right, I have the

> confidence.

> > >

> > > Try to negate the above statements, by astrological analysis against

> my

> > > claims of the next antardasha not turning benefic for the native in

> > > Question. But no talk other than astrology.

> > >

> > > Preaching must only be done by those who have proved themselves.

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , " vinothkumarmd@ "

> > > <vinothkumarmd@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear friends

> > > >

> > > > This is a general statement and does not refer to anybody.

> > > >

> > > > Quarells usually crop up when there are difference in opinion with

> > > each other and both have some point by which they feel their stance

> is

> > > true.This is understandable.At the maximum one must avoid to pick up

> > > quarells.Fighting first and then asking sorry is a great quality but

> a

> > > time waste escpecially for the one who wins a fight though his fight

> > > will be centered to propagate correct astrological information and

> not

> > > for his prestige.

> > > >

> > > > The other member who loses the fight should realise and think

> twice

> > > before fighting.

> > > >

> > > > Following is a personal statement and request to Bhaskarji and

> Vijay

> > > goel Ji

> > > >

> > > > Both of you had difference of opinion regarding which antar will

> give

> > > liquidity

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskarji said moon

> > > > Vijayji said Mars

> > > >

> > > > What is the use of fighting for future predictions?Fight was going

> on

> > > using astrological data as if the event has happened.Only time will

> tell

> > > who is correct

> > > >

> > > > so please avoid fighting for future predictions when escpecially

> you

> > > cannot give 100% guarantee for your clients

> > > >

> > > > If you can give 100% guarantee ,then i agree you have the right to

> > > quarell

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > >

> > > > Vinoth

> > > >

> > > > , neelam gupta

> > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > //So both factors indicate that i am not wrong and tauras lagna

> is

> > > working.

> > > > > The only thing is that i have not made comparison of all the

> > > divisional

> > > > > chart for Aries and Tauras lagna due to time constriant.//

> > > > > I do not agree, in fact, on the contrary I see Aries rising

> closer.

> > > Just by

> > > > > looking at transits one cannot conclude. In any case double

> transit

> > > on any

> > > > > of the 4 factors becomes too general and cannot be used as

> > > conclusive

> > > > > evidence unless seen through natal and dasha promise, as well as

> > > vargas.

> > > > >

> > > > > //Also this result was matching with Bhaskerji results.//

> > > > > How? I do not see again. He also derived Aries lagna I think.

> > > > >

> > > > > I apologise for seeking these clarifications from you. This is a

> > > part of

> > > > > learning process for myself.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Neelam

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 12, 2009

//Again i am reiterating my pointstated earlier that there is no use

debating on future predictions on the basis of astrological points //

Then what are we doing on a astrology forum ? Is it not for discussing

about future , or knowing about future ? And is not the future

prediction assumed as " correct " if the past ones have been proved

correct through sufficient presented analysis ?

Who is debating on future ? Only those who have not presented a single

word on " analysis " but just shooting their moths. I have already given

my judgement for the future about the native in question, as also the

past. Now who is debating unnecessarily without any worth or weight ?

We do not require preachers in a astrology forum, but only " Teachers "

and " students " and those who can " share " their knowledge.

Those who are discussing and debating unnecessarily , in which category

do they fall ? In none of these. So why are they not keeping quiet ?

Bhaskar.

, " vinothkumarmd "

<vinothkumarmd wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji

>

> You dont seem to get the essence of the post.Again i am reiterating my

point stated earlier that there is no use debating on future predictions

on the basis of astrological points.So i am not putting forth any

astrological points to discuss about the antardasha.

>

> i wrote the earlier post specifically for you because a day earlier to

that you wrote a post that you will not disturb the proceedings of the

forum and only concentrate on astrology.But in the conversation with

vijaygoel Ji i saw you contending astrological points for future

predictions(welcomed atleast because it is astrology) followed by strong

posts containing abuses directed at him personally when he had not

written anything personal against you.

>

> I feel happy that i did not write a reply post ahowing white flag

following your long " token of love for all members " post where you

seeked apology.If i had replied ,i would have been made a fool by you

the next day itself after seeing the post for vijaygoel ji

>

> Only time can tell " which antardasha gave money for the person " .what

is the use of playing " Who is Big astrologer " game now?, where time is

going to have the last laugh.

>

> so u agree that the 20% incorrectness which krishna is not giving you

generally may also mean this prediction can go wrong.so why should you

fight for which you are not 100% sure and only 90% sure(for this

particular case as according to you)

>

> We are certainly going to know in future which antardasha gave money

to the person and everyone of us here will come to know the truth.So

please wait till that.

>

> Regards

>

> vinoth

>

> which , " Bhaskar "

bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vinothkumar ji,

> >

> > I do not understand what is being tried to propogate here.

> >

> > If I give an analysis and somebody refutes my conclusions, then it

is

> > but normal, to ask for the reasons-astrological to the opposite

person

> > refuting my claims. If it leads to a fight, then so it be. The truth

> > must come out. One cannot just walk in a forum and REFUTE without

> > supporting evidence.

> >

> > You are talking about 100% guaranteed Predictions. What nonsense is

this

> > type of talking. What are you demanding. The sky to come on the

Earth ?

> > The water and sky to actually meet at the horzons. Is it possible ?

No

> > manufaturer of any product also gives and guarantee. They only give

> > " Warranty " .

> >

> > Has anybody heard of 100% Guarantee in astrological predictions?

Then

> > why this talk ?

> >

> > Do not reach. Talk practical please.

> >

> > Yet, I have confidence in my predictions and astrological knowledge,

and

> > they turn 80% right by Lord Shri Krishna Grace.

> >

> > In this particular case, they have been proved 100% right. For the

> > future I have mentioned, it will come 90% right, I have the

confidence.

> >

> > Try to negate the above statements, by astrological analysis against

my

> > claims of the next antardasha not turning benefic for the native in

> > Question. But no talk other than astrology.

> >

> > Preaching must only be done by those who have proved themselves.

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , " vinothkumarmd@ "

> > <vinothkumarmd@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear friends

> > >

> > > This is a general statement and does not refer to anybody.

> > >

> > > Quarells usually crop up when there are difference in opinion with

> > each other and both have some point by which they feel their stance

is

> > true.This is understandable.At the maximum one must avoid to pick up

> > quarells.Fighting first and then asking sorry is a great quality but

a

> > time waste escpecially for the one who wins a fight though his fight

> > will be centered to propagate correct astrological information and

not

> > for his prestige.

> > >

> > > The other member who loses the fight should realise and think

twice

> > before fighting.

> > >

> > > Following is a personal statement and request to Bhaskarji and

Vijay

> > goel Ji

> > >

> > > Both of you had difference of opinion regarding which antar will

give

> > liquidity

> > >

> > > Bhaskarji said moon

> > > Vijayji said Mars

> > >

> > > What is the use of fighting for future predictions?Fight was going

on

> > using astrological data as if the event has happened.Only time will

tell

> > who is correct

> > >

> > > so please avoid fighting for future predictions when escpecially

you

> > cannot give 100% guarantee for your clients

> > >

> > > If you can give 100% guarantee ,then i agree you have the right to

> > quarell

> > >

> > > regards

> > >

> > > Vinoth

> > >

> > > , neelam gupta

> > neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,

> > > >

> > > > //So both factors indicate that i am not wrong and tauras lagna

is

> > working.

> > > > The only thing is that i have not made comparison of all the

> > divisional

> > > > chart for Aries and Tauras lagna due to time constriant.//

> > > > I do not agree, in fact, on the contrary I see Aries rising

closer.

> > Just by

> > > > looking at transits one cannot conclude. In any case double

transit

> > on any

> > > > of the 4 factors becomes too general and cannot be used as

> > conclusive

> > > > evidence unless seen through natal and dasha promise, as well as

> > vargas.

> > > >

> > > > //Also this result was matching with Bhaskerji results.//

> > > > How? I do not see again. He also derived Aries lagna I think.

> > > >

> > > > I apologise for seeking these clarifications from you. This is a

> > part of

> > > > learning process for myself.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Neelam

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 12, 2009

Dear Vinothkumar ji,It is not a practice in this group to withhold any message without having specific reason for doing so.If the said mail by you has not appeared on board, that means it has not been received here.

May I request you to forward that message again. RegardsNeelam2009/7/13 vinothkumarmd <vinothkumarmd

Please ask the moderators to release the post i had written 3 days ago refuting about your 1-2 books theory and age,experience theory and also contained my introduction.You should definetely see that post which is my utmost desire .I am sad that it has not been posted to public so far and i also requested to moderators to post it-refer post 22065 to know the truth.

Predictions made by the astrologer speaks volumes about himself.In the quiz posted by Manojchandran ji,everyone remembers thier own analysis and analysis by others.Everyone here knows who all predicted close to the reality and who all failed miserably in the basic questions asked-wifes job mainly,outcome of children ,timing of birth of children.

If one goes by the above fact raised by you that those who proved themselves with their astrolgoical predictions only have the right to speak,Everybody here knows , " who are the members really have the right to speak or Preach. " based on our member Manoj chandranji's quiz

" I " believe all my correct predictions are due to Lord Krishna's grace and all wrong predictions are due to " fault of mine " .So by default and by my nature, " I " am not going to boast about my the number of predictions where i was correct nor the number of predictions where i was wrong.But just for your information,if my other earlier post never gets published,i would like to tell you that " i " have made predictions in multiples of 100 s and i am not a newbie to astrology but to this forum.

regards

vinoth

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Vinoth kumar ji,

>

> Please discuss with me only after you have introduced yourself.

>

> I am not playing " Big Astrologer " game which is why I said 90% correct

> future predictions for the native in question.

>

> Time has already shown what has to be seen. But some people dont wish to

> see what they dont want to.

>

> Regarding " abuse " to Goelji there was none, and do not try to create

> heat by mentioning such words.

>

> Everybody here can understand why you are not giving any future

> predictions for the antardasha. No sense in justifying why you cannot.

> We all know why you cannot.

>

> I have been here from the past 2 years so know what proceedings has to

> be disturbed and what not. You are a newcomer and need not advise me on

> that. But yet let me clarify my blood boils only when small mouths talk

> BIG. 1-2 Book readers if they discuss as if they know all in

> astrology and give judgements is not tolerable by me, unless they come

> up with supporting logical evidence of the judgements they have given.

>

> Now please give your intro b4 we discuss further.

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " vinothkumarmd@ "

> <vinothkumarmd@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskarji

> >

> > You dont seem to get the essence of the post.Again i am reiterating my

> point stated earlier that there is no use debating on future predictions

> on the basis of astrological points.So i am not putting forth any

> astrological points to discuss about the antardasha.

> >

> > i wrote the earlier post specifically for you because a day earlier to

> that you wrote a post that you will not disturb the proceedings of the

> forum and only concentrate on astrology.But in the conversation with

> vijaygoel Ji i saw you contending astrological points for future

> predictions(welcomed atleast because it is astrology) followed by strong

> posts containing abuses directed at him personally when he had not

> written anything personal against you.

> >

> > I feel happy that i did not write a reply post ahowing white flag

> following your long " token of love for all members " post where you

> seeked apology.If i had replied ,i would have been made a fool by you

> the next day itself after seeing the post for vijaygoel ji

> >

> > Only time can tell " which antardasha gave money for the person " .what

> is the use of playing " Who is Big astrologer " game now?, where time is

> going to have the last laugh.

> >

> > so u agree that the 20% incorrectness which krishna is not giving you

> generally may also mean this prediction can go wrong.so why should you

> fight for which you are not 100% sure and only 90% sure(for this

> particular case as according to you)

> >

> > We are certainly going to know in future which antardasha gave money

> to the person and everyone of us here will come to know the truth.So

> please wait till that.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > vinoth

> >

> > which , " Bhaskar "

> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vinothkumar ji,

> > >

> > > I do not understand what is being tried to propogate here.

> > >

> > > If I give an analysis and somebody refutes my conclusions, then it

> is

> > > but normal, to ask for the reasons-astrological to the opposite

> person

> > > refuting my claims. If it leads to a fight, then so it be. The truth

> > > must come out. One cannot just walk in a forum and REFUTE without

> > > supporting evidence.

> > >

> > > You are talking about 100% guaranteed Predictions. What nonsense is

> this

> > > type of talking. What are you demanding. The sky to come on the

> Earth ?

> > > The water and sky to actually meet at the horzons. Is it possible ?

> No

> > > manufaturer of any product also gives and guarantee. They only give

> > > " Warranty " .

> > >

> > > Has anybody heard of 100% Guarantee in astrological predictions?

> Then

> > > why this talk ?

> > >

> > > Do not reach. Talk practical please.

> > >

> > > Yet, I have confidence in my predictions and astrological knowledge,

> and

> > > they turn 80% right by Lord Shri Krishna Grace.

> > >

> > > In this particular case, they have been proved 100% right. For the

> > > future I have mentioned, it will come 90% right, I have the

> confidence.

> > >

> > > Try to negate the above statements, by astrological analysis against

> my

> > > claims of the next antardasha not turning benefic for the native in

> > > Question. But no talk other than astrology.

> > >

> > > Preaching must only be done by those who have proved themselves.

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , " vinothkumarmd@ "

> > > <vinothkumarmd@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear friends

> > > >

> > > > This is a general statement and does not refer to anybody.

> > > >

> > > > Quarells usually crop up when there are difference in opinion with

> > > each other and both have some point by which they feel their stance

> is

> > > true.This is understandable.At the maximum one must avoid to pick up

> > > quarells.Fighting first and then asking sorry is a great quality but

> a

> > > time waste escpecially for the one who wins a fight though his fight

> > > will be centered to propagate correct astrological information and

> not

> > > for his prestige.

> > > >

> > > > The other member who loses the fight should realise and think

> twice

> > > before fighting.

> > > >

> > > > Following is a personal statement and request to Bhaskarji and

> Vijay

> > > goel Ji

> > > >

> > > > Both of you had difference of opinion regarding which antar will

> give

> > > liquidity

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskarji said moon

> > > > Vijayji said Mars

> > > >

> > > > What is the use of fighting for future predictions?Fight was going

> on

> > > using astrological data as if the event has happened.Only time will

> tell

> > > who is correct

> > > >

> > > > so please avoid fighting for future predictions when escpecially

> you

> > > cannot give 100% guarantee for your clients

> > > >

> > > > If you can give 100% guarantee ,then i agree you have the right to

> > > quarell

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > >

> > > > Vinoth

> > > >

> > > > , neelam gupta

> > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > //So both factors indicate that i am not wrong and tauras lagna

> is

> > > working.

> > > > > The only thing is that i have not made comparison of all the

> > > divisional

> > > > > chart for Aries and Tauras lagna due to time constriant.//

> > > > > I do not agree, in fact, on the contrary I see Aries rising

> closer.

> > > Just by

> > > > > looking at transits one cannot conclude. In any case double

> transit

> > > on any

> > > > > of the 4 factors becomes too general and cannot be used as

> > > conclusive

> > > > > evidence unless seen through natal and dasha promise, as well as

> > > vargas.

> > > > >

> > > > > //Also this result was matching with Bhaskerji results.//

> > > > > How? I do not see again. He also derived Aries lagna I think.

> > > > >

> > > > > I apologise for seeking these clarifications from you. This is a

> > > part of

> > > > > learning process for myself.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Neelam

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 12, 2009

Dear Vinothkumar ji,You are new in the group. Bhaskar ji and Vijay ji are old members and know and understand each other well. I am following the discussions and know what each one is trying to say. That is why I am trying to tell you.

The discussion is on proving the points astrologically by establishing and justifying the past events and then suggesting future possibilities.It was the justification of past events which was was being sought. I am sure Vijay ji understands that.

I hope you get my point. RegardsNeelam2009/7/13 vinothkumarmd <vinothkumarmd

Dear Neelamji

Please follow the discussion clearly between Bhaskarji and vijay ji.I am not supporting vijay ji personally as i dont know him either.

Vijayji writes

" according to my view,Moon antardasha is correct and for you it may be amrs antardasha according to kp "

These words are not verbatim but they reflect the same meaning accurately .sorry i dont have enough time to dig the post.

Since it is a prediction for future ,i dont want to comment further.You seem to be very learned which reflected in the predictions you made during the last week.

There was a contention between Mars and Moon antardasha .you might have known which planet has more connections with " land " or karaka for it in vedic astrolgy .

regards

vinoth

, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Vinothkumar ji,

>

> //i am reiterating my point stated earlier that there is no use debating on

> future predictions on the basis of astrological points.//

>

> I guess the whole point is lost here. The debate is/was not at all about

> future predictions or who proves to be correct, etc.

> The debate was essentially about justifying the technique being used for

> making a prediction.

>

> The point is about correctness of application of astrological principles and

> not the correctness of prediction I think.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

> 2009/7/12 vinothkumarmd <vinothkumarmd

>

> >

> > Dear Bhaskarji

> >

> > You dont seem to get the essence of the post.Again i am reiterating my

> > point stated earlier that there is no use debating on future predictions on

> > the basis of astrological points.So i am not putting forth any astrological

> > points to discuss about the antardasha.

> >

> > i wrote the earlier post specifically for you because a day earlier to that

> > you wrote a post that you will not disturb the proceedings of the forum and

> > only concentrate on astrology.But in the conversation with vijaygoel Ji i

> > saw you contending astrological points for future predictions(welcomed

> > atleast because it is astrology) followed by strong posts containing abuses

> > directed at him personally when he had not written anything personal against

> > you.

> >

> > I feel happy that i did not write a reply post ahowing white flag following

> > your long " token of love for all members " post where you seeked apology.If i

> > had replied ,i would have been made a fool by you the next day itself after

> > seeing the post for vijaygoel ji

> >

> > Only time can tell " which antardasha gave money for the person " .what is the

> > use of playing " Who is Big astrologer " game now?, where time is going to

> > have the last laugh.

> >

> > so u agree that the 20% incorrectness which krishna is not giving you

> > generally may also mean this prediction can go wrong.so why should you fight

> > for which you are not 100% sure and only 90% sure(for this particular case

> > as according to you)

> >

> > We are certainly going to know in future which antardasha gave money to the

> > person and everyone of us here will come to know the truth.So please wait

> > till that.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > vinoth

> >

> > which <%40>,

> > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vinothkumar ji,

> > >

> > > I do not understand what is being tried to propogate here.

> > >

> > > If I give an analysis and somebody refutes my conclusions, then it is

> > > but normal, to ask for the reasons-astrological to the opposite person

> > > refuting my claims. If it leads to a fight, then so it be. The truth

> > > must come out. One cannot just walk in a forum and REFUTE without

> > > supporting evidence.

> > >

> > > You are talking about 100% guaranteed Predictions. What nonsense is this

> > > type of talking. What are you demanding. The sky to come on the Earth ?

> > > The water and sky to actually meet at the horzons. Is it possible ? No

> > > manufaturer of any product also gives and guarantee. They only give

> > > " Warranty " .

> > >

> > > Has anybody heard of 100% Guarantee in astrological predictions? Then

> > > why this talk ?

> > >

> > > Do not reach. Talk practical please.

> > >

> > > Yet, I have confidence in my predictions and astrological knowledge, and

> > > they turn 80% right by Lord Shri Krishna Grace.

> > >

> > > In this particular case, they have been proved 100% right. For the

> > > future I have mentioned, it will come 90% right, I have the confidence.

> > >

> > > Try to negate the above statements, by astrological analysis against my

> > > claims of the next antardasha not turning benefic for the native in

> > > Question. But no talk other than astrology.

> > >

> > > Preaching must only be done by those who have proved themselves.

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > <%40>,

> > " vinothkumarmd@ "

> > > <vinothkumarmd@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear friends

> > > >

> > > > This is a general statement and does not refer to anybody.

> > > >

> > > > Quarells usually crop up when there are difference in opinion with

> > > each other and both have some point by which they feel their stance is

> > > true.This is understandable.At the maximum one must avoid to pick up

> > > quarells.Fighting first and then asking sorry is a great quality but a

> > > time waste escpecially for the one who wins a fight though his fight

> > > will be centered to propagate correct astrological information and not

> > > for his prestige.

> > > >

> > > > The other member who loses the fight should realise and think twice

> > > before fighting.

> > > >

> > > > Following is a personal statement and request to Bhaskarji and Vijay

> > > goel Ji

> > > >

> > > > Both of you had difference of opinion regarding which antar will give

> > > liquidity

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskarji said moon

> > > > Vijayji said Mars

> > > >

> > > > What is the use of fighting for future predictions?Fight was going on

> > > using astrological data as if the event has happened.Only time will tell

> > > who is correct

> > > >

> > > > so please avoid fighting for future predictions when escpecially you

> > > cannot give 100% guarantee for your clients

> > > >

> > > > If you can give 100% guarantee ,then i agree you have the right to

> > > quarell

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > >

> > > > Vinoth

> > > >

> > > > <%40>,

> > neelam gupta

> > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > //So both factors indicate that i am not wrong and tauras lagna is

> > > working.

> > > > > The only thing is that i have not made comparison of all the

> > > divisional

> > > > > chart for Aries and Tauras lagna due to time constriant.//

> > > > > I do not agree, in fact, on the contrary I see Aries rising closer.

> > > Just by

> > > > > looking at transits one cannot conclude. In any case double transit

> > > on any

> > > > > of the 4 factors becomes too general and cannot be used as

> > > conclusive

> > > > > evidence unless seen through natal and dasha promise, as well as

> > > vargas.

> > > > >

> > > > > //Also this result was matching with Bhaskerji results.//

> > > > > How? I do not see again. He also derived Aries lagna I think.

> > > > >

> > > > > I apologise for seeking these clarifications from you. This is a

> > > part of

> > > > > learning process for myself.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Neelam

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 12, 2009

Dear Neelam ji, Bhaskar ji and Vinoth Kumar ji, Let me intrude here with my half baked idea about the whole situation. I am yet to read the posts and is yet to have a gist of what is going on. But I have the following points to share - * I agree with Neelam ji 100% on what she states below. * Vinoth Kumar ji states that he introduced himself in an earlier mail and that the moderators didn't allow it. Since there are multiple moderators in this group, I am not sure about the truth of that statement - some moderator may or may not have approved that mail; I need to check with the moderators to know the truth of that statement and so leave it aside as of now. Anyway as of now there is no pending mails in the groups pending mails section, I can assure. If some post was on hold by the moderators, or didn't appear in the group pending section itself due to some bug - then no more it is present there. Now coming to the introducing part, I disagree with Bhaskar ji and don't believe that introducing one self is required in such forums and anonymity should be respected. Of course I agree that knowing the person we are talking to makes the communication better fruitful, but that cannot be demanded. Further there could be backdoors if required for collecting the info (which may or maynot lead to correct info) even if some one is reluctant to share it. For example a simple google search with the words "Vinoth Kumar M D" brings in the following info - "Vinoth Kumar MD. Gender, : Male. Age, : 23. Nationality, : Indian. Location, : Chennai, India". Now this info could be true or fals - but why should one be bothered? What age has to do with knowledge at all? Is it not one of the advantages of forums that we can talk to anyone as equals without being bothered about age at all? It seems that both Bhaskar ji and Vinoth has a point - and we should take the positive side of their argument only, without making it personal at all. * Now coming to blind chart reading etc - a single reading proves nothing. Only such numerous quizzes and continuous evaluation can prove the credibility of individuals. I request Vinoth ji to search the archives to find such info and understand that Neelam ji, Sunil Nair ji, Bhaskar ji etc had proved their capability in realistic and reliable prediction numerous times. Error one or times DOES NOT bring down their reputation but only reveals their sincerity and dedication to the subject. Please don't commit the immature and unscientific mistake of drawing conclusions based on single example/observation. Note: I request a stop war fire. I hope we can continue with knowledge sharing instead of raising out cobra heads. Love and regards,Sreenadh , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Vinothkumar ji,> > //i am reiterating my point stated earlier that there is no use debating on> future predictions on the basis of astrological points.//> > I guess the whole point is lost here. The debate is/was not at all about> future predictions or who proves to be correct, etc.> The debate was essentially about justifying the technique being used for> making a prediction.> > The point is about correctness of application of astrological principles and> not the correctness of prediction I think.> > Regards> Neelam

July 12, 2009

Dear neelamji

I agree with you partly as,

The disagreement between our members vijayji and Bhaskar was on 2 points

1.Fixing the lagna based on the events that already occured

2.Future prediction regarding the antardasha which is going to give liquidity

I only pointed out that debate on point 2 astrologically or non-astrologically

is very early for we have to wait actually for the event to occur.I could see

vijayji maintaining decorum throughout refraining from speaking harsh words in

his posts which is appreciable.Otherwise the group would have looked nasty.

Regards

vinoth

, neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Vinothkumar ji,

>

> You are new in the group. Bhaskar ji and Vijay ji are old members and know

> and understand each other well.

> I am following the discussions and know what each one is trying to say. That

> is why I am trying to tell you.

>

> The discussion is on proving the points astrologically by establishing and

> justifying the past events and then suggesting future possibilities.

> It was the justification of past events which was was being sought. I am

> sure Vijay ji understands that.

>

> I hope you get my point.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

> 2009/7/13 vinothkumarmd <vinothkumarmd

>

> >

> > Dear Neelamji

> >

> > Please follow the discussion clearly between Bhaskarji and vijay ji.I am

> > not supporting vijay ji personally as i dont know him either.

> >

> > Vijayji writes

> >

> > " according to my view,Moon antardasha is correct and for you it may be amrs

> > antardasha according to kp "

> >

> > These words are not verbatim but they reflect the same meaning accurately

> > .sorry i dont have enough time to dig the post.

> >

> > Since it is a prediction for future ,i dont want to comment further.You

> > seem to be very learned which reflected in the predictions you made during

> > the last week.

> >

> > There was a contention between Mars and Moon antardasha .you might have

> > known which planet has more connections with " land " or karaka for it in

> > vedic astrolgy .

> >

> > regards

> >

> > vinoth

> >

> > --- In

<%40.\

com>,

> > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vinothkumar ji,

> > >

> > > //i am reiterating my point stated earlier that there is no use debating

> > on

> > > future predictions on the basis of astrological points.//

> > >

> > > I guess the whole point is lost here. The debate is/was not at all about

> > > future predictions or who proves to be correct, etc.

> > > The debate was essentially about justifying the technique being used for

> > > making a prediction.

> > >

> > > The point is about correctness of application of astrological principles

> > and

> > > not the correctness of prediction I think.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Neelam

> > >

> > > 2009/7/12 vinothkumarmd@ <vinothkumarmd@>

> >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhaskarji

> > > >

> > > > You dont seem to get the essence of the post.Again i am reiterating my

> > > > point stated earlier that there is no use debating on future

> > predictions on

> > > > the basis of astrological points.So i am not putting forth any

> > astrological

> > > > points to discuss about the antardasha.

> > > >

> > > > i wrote the earlier post specifically for you because a day earlier to

> > that

> > > > you wrote a post that you will not disturb the proceedings of the forum

> > and

> > > > only concentrate on astrology.But in the conversation with vijaygoel Ji

> > i

> > > > saw you contending astrological points for future predictions(welcomed

> > > > atleast because it is astrology) followed by strong posts containing

> > abuses

> > > > directed at him personally when he had not written anything personal

> > against

> > > > you.

> > > >

> > > > I feel happy that i did not write a reply post ahowing white flag

> > following

> > > > your long " token of love for all members " post where you seeked

> > apology.If i

> > > > had replied ,i would have been made a fool by you the next day itself

> > after

> > > > seeing the post for vijaygoel ji

> > > >

> > > > Only time can tell " which antardasha gave money for the person " .what is

> > the

> > > > use of playing " Who is Big astrologer " game now?, where time is going

> > to

> > > > have the last laugh.

> > > >

> > > > so u agree that the 20% incorrectness which krishna is not giving you

> > > > generally may also mean this prediction can go wrong.so why should you

> > fight

> > > > for which you are not 100% sure and only 90% sure(for this particular

> > case

> > > > as according to you)

> > > >

> > > > We are certainly going to know in future which antardasha gave money to

> > the

> > > > person and everyone of us here will come to know the truth.So please

> > wait

> > > > till that.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > vinoth

> > > >

> > > > which--- In

<%40.\

com>

> > <%40>,

> >

> > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Vinothkumar ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I do not understand what is being tried to propogate here.

> > > > >

> > > > > If I give an analysis and somebody refutes my conclusions, then it is

> > > > > but normal, to ask for the reasons-astrological to the opposite

> > person

> > > > > refuting my claims. If it leads to a fight, then so it be. The truth

> > > > > must come out. One cannot just walk in a forum and REFUTE without

> > > > > supporting evidence.

> > > > >

> > > > > You are talking about 100% guaranteed Predictions. What nonsense is

> > this

> > > > > type of talking. What are you demanding. The sky to come on the Earth

> > ?

> > > > > The water and sky to actually meet at the horzons. Is it possible ?

> > No

> > > > > manufaturer of any product also gives and guarantee. They only give

> > > > > " Warranty " .

> > > > >

> > > > > Has anybody heard of 100% Guarantee in astrological predictions? Then

> > > > > why this talk ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Do not reach. Talk practical please.

> > > > >

> > > > > Yet, I have confidence in my predictions and astrological knowledge,

> > and

> > > > > they turn 80% right by Lord Shri Krishna Grace.

> > > > >

> > > > > In this particular case, they have been proved 100% right. For the

> > > > > future I have mentioned, it will come 90% right, I have the

> > confidence.

> > > > >

> > > > > Try to negate the above statements, by astrological analysis against

> > my

> > > > > claims of the next antardasha not turning benefic for the native in

> > > > > Question. But no talk other than astrology.

> > > > >

> > > > > Preaching must only be done by those who have proved themselves.

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

<%40.\

com>

> > <%40>,

> >

> > > > " vinothkumarmd@ "

> > > > > <vinothkumarmd@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear friends

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This is a general statement and does not refer to anybody.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Quarells usually crop up when there are difference in opinion with

> > > > > each other and both have some point by which they feel their stance

> > is

> > > > > true.This is understandable.At the maximum one must avoid to pick up

> > > > > quarells.Fighting first and then asking sorry is a great quality but

> > a

> > > > > time waste escpecially for the one who wins a fight though his fight

> > > > > will be centered to propagate correct astrological information and

> > not

> > > > > for his prestige.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The other member who loses the fight should realise and think twice

> > > > > before fighting.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Following is a personal statement and request to Bhaskarji and

> > Vijay

> > > > > goel Ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Both of you had difference of opinion regarding which antar will

> > give

> > > > > liquidity

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskarji said moon

> > > > > > Vijayji said Mars

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What is the use of fighting for future predictions?Fight was going

> > on

> > > > > using astrological data as if the event has happened.Only time will

> > tell

> > > > > who is correct

> > > > > >

> > > > > > so please avoid fighting for future predictions when escpecially

> > you

> > > > > cannot give 100% guarantee for your clients

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If you can give 100% guarantee ,then i agree you have the right to

> > > > > quarell

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Vinoth

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

<%40.\

com>

> > <%40>,

> > > > neelam gupta

> > > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > //So both factors indicate that i am not wrong and tauras lagna

> > is

> > > > > working.

> > > > > > > The only thing is that i have not made comparison of all the

> > > > > divisional

> > > > > > > chart for Aries and Tauras lagna due to time constriant.//

> > > > > > > I do not agree, in fact, on the contrary I see Aries rising

> > closer.

> > > > > Just by

> > > > > > > looking at transits one cannot conclude. In any case double

> > transit

> > > > > on any

> > > > > > > of the 4 factors becomes too general and cannot be used as

> > > > > conclusive

> > > > > > > evidence unless seen through natal and dasha promise, as well as

> > > > > vargas.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > //Also this result was matching with Bhaskerji results.//

> > > > > > > How? I do not see again. He also derived Aries lagna I think.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I apologise for seeking these clarifications from you. This is a

> > > > > part of

> > > > > > > learning process for myself.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Neelam

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 12, 2009

Dear Vinoth Ji,

Unsolicited comments from a fellow newcomer to this group:

1. I have also posted posts that never showed up (before when I was still moderated). I just reposted them and they showed. Matter closed. So I dont think you have been singled out. Most probably it is a bug..

2. Let the moderators and owner worry about whether the Group looks nasty or not. That is not our botheration. We are here to learn and share.

3. You have a lot of enthusiasm and energy to share. This is appreciated and please continue to do so and let this matter to REST. Some times if we leave things alone, they sort themselves out.

Regards,

-Manoj

"vinothkumarmd" <vinothkumarmd Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:33:02 PM Re: what lagna should be taken for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree

Dear neelamjiI agree with you partly as,The disagreement between our members vijayji and Bhaskar was on 2 points1.Fixing the lagna based on the events that already occured2.Future prediction regarding the antardasha which is going to give liquidityI only pointed out that debate on point 2 astrologically or non-astrologically is very early for we have to wait actually for the event to occur.I could see vijayji maintaining decorum throughout refraining from speaking harsh words in his posts which is appreciable. Otherwise the group would have looked nasty.Regardsvinothancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Vinothkumar ji,> > You are new in the group.

Bhaskar ji and Vijay ji are old members and know> and understand each other well.> I am following the discussions and know what each one is trying to say. That> is why I am trying to tell you.> > The discussion is on proving the points astrologically by establishing and> justifying the past events and then suggesting future possibilities.> It was the justification of past events which was was being sought. I am> sure Vijay ji understands that.> > I hope you get my point.> > Regards> Neelam> > > > 2009/7/13 vinothkumarmd@ ... <vinothkumarmd@ ...>> > >> >> >> > Dear Neelamji> >> > Please follow the discussion clearly between Bhaskarji and vijay ji.I am> > not supporting vijay ji personally as i dont know him either.> >> > Vijayji

writes> >> > "according to my view,Moon antardasha is correct and for you it may be amrs> > antardasha according to kp"> >> > These words are not verbatim but they reflect the same meaning accurately> > .sorry i dont have enough time to dig the post.> >> > Since it is a prediction for future ,i dont want to comment further.You> > seem to be very learned which reflected in the predictions you made during> > the last week.> >> > There was a contention between Mars and Moon antardasha .you might have> > known which planet has more connections with "land " or karaka for it in> > vedic astrolgy .> >> >> > regards> >> > vinoth> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology% 40. com>,> > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Vinothkumar ji,> > >> > > //i am reiterating my point stated earlier that there is no use debating> > on> > > future predictions on the basis of astrological points.//> > >> > > I guess the whole point is lost here. The debate is/was not at all about> > > future predictions or who proves to be correct, etc.> > > The debate was essentially about justifying the technique being used for> > > making a prediction.> > >> > > The point is about correctness of application of astrological principles> > and> > > not the correctness of prediction I

think.> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > >> > > 2009/7/12 vinothkumarmd@ <vinothkumarmd@ >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Bhaskarji> > > >> > > > You dont seem to get the essence of the post.Again i am reiterating my> > > > point stated earlier that there is no use debating on future> > predictions on> > > > the basis of astrological points.So i am not putting forth any> > astrological> > > > points to discuss about the antardasha.> > > >> > > > i wrote the earlier post specifically for you because a day earlier to> > that> > > > you wrote a post that you will not disturb the proceedings of the forum> >

and> > > > only concentrate on astrology.But in the conversation with vijaygoel Ji> > i> > > > saw you contending astrological points for future predictions( welcomed> > > > atleast because it is astrology) followed by strong posts containing> > abuses> > > > directed at him personally when he had not written anything personal> > against> > > > you.> > > >> > > > I feel happy that i did not write a reply post ahowing white flag> > following> > > > your long "token of love for all members" post where you seeked> > apology.If i> > > > had replied ,i would have been made a fool by you the next day itself> > after> > > > seeing the post for vijaygoel ji> > > >> > > > Only time can tell "which antardasha gave

money for the person".what is> > the> > > > use of playing "Who is Big astrologer" game now?, where time is going> > to> > > > have the last laugh.> > > >> > > > so u agree that the 20% incorrectness which krishna is not giving you> > > > generally may also mean this prediction can go wrong.so why should you> > fight> > > > for which you are not 100% sure and only 90% sure(for this particular> > case> > > > as according to you)> > > >> > > > We are certainly going to know in future which antardasha gave money to> > the> > > > person and everyone of us here will come to know the truth.So please> > wait> > > > till that.> > > >> > > >

Regards> > > >> > > > vinoth> > > >> > > >> > > > whichancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology% 40. com>> > <ancient_indian_ astrology% 40. com>,> >> > > > "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Vinothkumar ji,> > > > >> > > > > I do not understand what is being tried to propogate here.> > > > >> > > > > If I give an analysis and somebody refutes my conclusions, then it is> > > > > but normal, to ask for the reasons-astrologica l to the

opposite> > person> > > > > refuting my claims. If it leads to a fight, then so it be. The truth> > > > > must come out. One cannot just walk in a forum and REFUTE without> > > > > supporting evidence.> > > > >> > > > > You are talking about 100% guaranteed Predictions.. What nonsense is> > this> > > > > type of talking. What are you demanding. The sky to come on the Earth> > ?> > > > > The water and sky to actually meet at the horzons. Is it possible ?> > No> > > > > manufaturer of any product also gives and guarantee. They only give> > > > > "Warranty".> > > > >> > > > > Has anybody heard of 100% Guarantee in astrological predictions? Then> > > > > why this talk ?> > > >

>> > > > > Do not reach. Talk practical please.> > > > >> > > > > Yet, I have confidence in my predictions and astrological knowledge,> > and> > > > > they turn 80% right by Lord Shri Krishna Grace.> > > > >> > > > > In this particular case, they have been proved 100% right. For the> > > > > future I have mentioned, it will come 90% right, I have the> > confidence.> > > > >> > > > > Try to negate the above statements, by astrological analysis against> > my> > > > > claims of the next antardasha not turning benefic for the native in> > > > > Question. But no talk other than astrology.> > > > >> > > > > Preaching must only be done by those who have proved themselves.> >

> > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology% 40. com>> > <ancient_indian_ astrology% 40. com>,> >> > > > "vinothkumarmd@ "> > > > > <vinothkumarmd@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear friends> > > > > >> > > > > > This is a general statement and does not refer to anybody.> > > > > >> > > > > > Quarells usually crop up when there are difference in opinion with> > > > > each other and both have some

point by which they feel their stance> > is> > > > > true.This is understandable. At the maximum one must avoid to pick up> > > > > quarells.Fighting first and then asking sorry is a great quality but> > a> > > > > time waste escpecially for the one who wins a fight though his fight> > > > > will be centered to propagate correct astrological information and> > not> > > > > for his prestige.> > > > > >> > > > > > The other member who loses the fight should realise and think twice> > > > > before fighting.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Following is a personal statement and request to Bhaskarji and> > Vijay> > > > > goel Ji> > > > > >> > >

> > > Both of you had difference of opinion regarding which antar will> > give> > > > > liquidity> > > > > >> > > > > > Bhaskarji said moon> > > > > > Vijayji said Mars> > > > > >> > > > > > What is the use of fighting for future predictions? Fight was going> > on> > > > > using astrological data as if the event has happened.Only time will> > tell> > > > > who is correct> > > > > >> > > > > > so please avoid fighting for future predictions when escpecially> > you> > > > > cannot give 100% guarantee for your clients> > > > > >> > > > > > If you can give 100% guarantee ,then i agree you have the right to> > > > >

quarell> > > > > >> > > > > > regards> > > > > >> > > > > > Vinoth> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology% 40. com>> > <ancient_indian_ astrology% 40. com>,> > > > neelam gupta> > > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,>

> > > > > >> > > > > > > //So both factors indicate that i am not wrong and tauras lagna> > is> > > > > working.> > > > > > > The only thing is that i have not made comparison of all the> > > > > divisional> > > > > > > chart for Aries and Tauras lagna due to time constriant./ /> > > > > > > I do not agree, in fact, on the contrary I see Aries rising> > closer.> > > > > Just by> > > > > > > looking at transits one cannot conclude. In any case double> > transit> > > > > on any> > > > > > > of the 4 factors becomes too general and cannot be used as> > > > > conclusive> > > > > > > evidence unless seen through natal and dasha promise, as well

as> > > > > vargas.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > //Also this result was matching with Bhaskerji results.//> > > > > > > How? I do not see again. He also derived Aries lagna I think.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I apologise for seeking these clarifications from you. This is a> > > > > part of> > > > > > > learning process for myself.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > Neelam> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >>

July 12, 2009

Dear Sreenadhji

I agree with your comments 100% .The mail i posted must have been a bug as

i dont know where it is gone.I gave my introduction in that post and also

refuted all points like age,experience ,number of books one have read etc has

nothing to do with astrology knowledge while answering some of the harsh quotes

made by bhaskarji referring me and that post was also written in a polite manner

by me.

Whenever a prediction is correct ,i am given to understand that astrology is

correct always and whenever a prediction goes wrong,i always think that it was

me the one who erred and not astrology.

I had to point out the quiz predictions outcome as part of the debate as there

was a " question of proving correctness " raised by Mr.Bhaskarji which i felt is

totally unnecessarily.So I pointed out that any body can go wrong on a

particular day (irrespective of his past laurels) and i am sure that was written

without referring the names of Bhaskarji,SunilNair and Neelamji whom i resepct

as knowledgeable astrologers.The derivations from the statements apply to all

including me if we go by the claim by Bhaskarji about " proving to be a good

astrologer " and it is only for those who believe in Bhaskarji words to derive

and test its applicablility for them.

I dont assume anybody to be correct or wrong based on a couple of prediction as

i respect each and every astrologer/student astrologer for the devotion he has

for the subject whatever be his experience in astrolgy be it 1 day or several

decades.

It would be nice if you can request your members not to degrade any body calling

him as a junior and not to voice his statements in a public group which contains

more than 3000 members open for the public.One must understand that when a post

appears all 3000 members can see it and may also comment about it

I appreciate your initiative as a owner of the group coming forward to solve an

issue and taking a neutral stance which has increased my respects for you

further

Regards

Vinoth

, " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Neelam ji, Bhaskar ji and Vinoth Kumar ji,

> Let me intrude here with my half baked idea about the whole

> situation. I am yet to read the posts and is yet to have a gist of what

> is going on. But I have the following points to share -

> * I agree with Neelam ji 100% on what she states below.

> * Vinoth Kumar ji states that he introduced himself in an earlier mail

> and that the moderators didn't allow it. Since there are multiple

> moderators in this group, I am not sure about the truth of that

> statement - some moderator may or may not have approved that mail; I

> need to check with the moderators to know the truth of that statement

> and so leave it aside as of now. Anyway as of now there is no pending

> mails in the groups pending mails section, I can assure. If some post

> was on hold by the moderators, or didn't appear in the group pending

> section itself due to some bug - then no more it is present there.

> Now coming to the introducing part, I disagree with Bhaskar ji and

> don't believe that introducing one self is required in such forums

> and anonymity should be respected. Of course I agree that knowing the

> person we are talking to makes the communication better fruitful, but

> that cannot be demanded. Further there could be backdoors if required

> for collecting the info (which may or maynot lead to correct info) even

> if some one is reluctant to share it. For example a simple google

> search with the words " Vinoth Kumar M D " brings in the following info -

> " Vinoth Kumar MD. Gender, : Male. Age, : 23. Nationality, : Indian.

> Location, : Chennai, India " . Now this info could be true or fals - but

> why should one be bothered? What age has to do with knowledge at all? Is

> it not one of the advantages of forums that we can talk to anyone

> as equals without being bothered about age at all? It seems that both

> Bhaskar ji and Vinoth has a point - and we should take the positive side

> of their argument only, without making it personal at all.

> * Now coming to blind chart reading etc - a single reading proves

> nothing. Only such numerous quizzes and continuous evaluation can prove

> the credibility of individuals. I request Vinoth ji to search the

> archives to find such info and understand that Neelam ji, Sunil Nair ji,

> Bhaskar ji etc had proved their capability in realistic and reliable

> prediction numerous times. Error one or times DOES NOT bring down their

> reputation but only reveals their sincerity and dedication to the

> subject. Please don't commit the immature and unscientific mistake of

> drawing conclusions based on single example/observation.

> Note: I request a stop war fire. I hope we can continue with

> knowledge sharing instead of raising out cobra heads.

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

>

> , neelam gupta

> <neelamgupta07@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vinothkumar ji,

> >

> > //i am reiterating my point stated earlier that there is no use

> debating on

> > future predictions on the basis of astrological points.//

> >

> > I guess the whole point is lost here. The debate is/was not at all

> about

> > future predictions or who proves to be correct, etc.

> > The debate was essentially about justifying the technique being used

> for

> > making a prediction.

> >

> > The point is about correctness of application of astrological

> principles and

> > not the correctness of prediction I think.

> >

> > Regards

> > Neelam

>

July 12, 2009

Dear Manoj Chandran ji, Well Said! I second you in this regard. Vinoth Chandran ji let us move on. We have much to learn I believe. Love and regards,Sreenadh , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:>> Dear Vinoth Ji,> > Unsolicited comments from a fellow newcomer to this group:> > 1. I have also posted posts that never showed up (before when I was still moderated). I just reposted them and they showed. Matter closed. So I dont think you have been singled out. Most probably it is a bug.> > 2. Let the moderators and owner worry about whether the Group looks nasty or not. That is not our botheration. We are here to learn and share.> > 3. You have a lot of enthusiasm and energy to share. This is appreciated and please continue to do so and let this matter to REST. Some times if we leave things alone, they sort themselves out.> > Regards,> > -Manoj

July 12, 2009

Dear Bhaskar ji, When you say - //I have been here from the past 2 years so know what proceedings has to

be disturbed and what not.// I can only agree with you, since you are absolutely right on the above point. But let the newbees settle down - they all have good potential. Love and regards,Sreenadh

July 12, 2009

Dear Manoj chandran ji

Agree with point 1.I understood i was not victimised and it was a bug only

today when neelam ji-moderator and Sreenadhji confriming that there was no mail

pending.I claimed that day itself and since i didnt get a reply from the group

" officials " ,i could not come to a judgement about the wherebouts of the post

and even then i did not find fault with the moderators or owners as i know they

have lot other important work to do.

I had to talk about this again because our fellow member Bhaskar raised the

point that i didnt introduced itself and so i referred to me unpublished post

which contained introduction

2.one always want to see the house he is going to stay as a guest to be clean

for him to like and continue his stay for longer periods.If you are not

bothered,i cant help.But i am certainly bothered if it looks nasty.

Thanks for tha advice point no.3

regards

vinoth

, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj wrote:

>

> Dear Vinoth Ji,

>

> Unsolicited comments from a fellow newcomer to this group:

>

> 1. I have also posted posts that never showed up (before when I was still

moderated). I just reposted them and they showed. Matter closed. So I dont think

you have been singled out. Most probably it is a bug.

>

> 2. Let the moderators and owner worry about whether the Group looks nasty or

not. That is not our botheration. We are here to learn and share.

>

> 3. You have a lot of enthusiasm and energy to share. This is appreciated and

please continue to do so and let this matter to REST. Some times if we leave

things alone, they sort themselves out.

>

> Regards,

>

> -Manoj

>

> ________________________________

> " vinothkumarmd " <vinothkumarmd

>

> Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:33:02 PM

> Re: what lagna should be taken for

prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree

>

> Dear neelamji

>

> I agree with you partly as,

>

> The disagreement between our members vijayji and Bhaskar was on 2 points

>

> 1.Fixing the lagna based on the events that already occured

> 2.Future prediction regarding the antardasha which is going to give liquidity

>

> I only pointed out that debate on point 2 astrologically or non-astrologically

is very early for we have to wait actually for the event to occur.I could see

vijayji maintaining decorum throughout refraining from speaking harsh words in

his posts which is appreciable. Otherwise the group would have looked nasty.

>

> Regards

>

> vinoth

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vinothkumar ji,

> >

> > You are new in the group. Bhaskar ji and Vijay ji are old members and know

> > and understand each other well.

> > I am following the discussions and know what each one is trying to say. That

> > is why I am trying to tell you.

> >

> > The discussion is on proving the points astrologically by establishing and

> > justifying the past events and then suggesting future possibilities.

> > It was the justification of past events which was was being sought. I am

> > sure Vijay ji understands that.

> >

> > I hope you get my point.

> >

> > Regards

> > Neelam

> >

> > 2009/7/13 vinothkumarmd@ ... <vinothkumarmd@ ...>

> >

> > >

> > > Dear Neelamji

> > >

> > > Please follow the discussion clearly between Bhaskarji and vijay ji.I am

> > > not supporting vijay ji personally as i dont know him either.

> > >

> > > Vijayji writes

> > >

> > > " according to my view,Moon antardasha is correct and for you it may be

amrs

> > > antardasha according to kp "

> > >

> > > These words are not verbatim but they reflect the same meaning accurately

> > > .sorry i dont have enough time to dig the post.

> > >

> > > Since it is a prediction for future ,i dont want to comment further.You

> > > seem to be very learned which reflected in the predictions you made during

> > > the last week.

> > >

> > > There was a contention between Mars and Moon antardasha .you might have

> > > known which planet has more connections with " land " or karaka for it in

> > > vedic astrolgy .

> > >

> > > regards

> > >

> > > vinoth

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_

astrology% 40. com>,

> > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vinothkumar ji,

> > > >

> > > > //i am reiterating my point stated earlier that there is no use debating

> > > on

> > > > future predictions on the basis of astrological points.//

> > > >

> > > > I guess the whole point is lost here. The debate is/was not at all about

> > > > future predictions or who proves to be correct, etc.

> > > > The debate was essentially about justifying the technique being used for

> > > > making a prediction.

> > > >

> > > > The point is about correctness of application of astrological principles

> > > and

> > > > not the correctness of prediction I think.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Neelam

> > > >

> > > > 2009/7/12 vinothkumarmd@ <vinothkumarmd@ >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Bhaskarji

> > > > >

> > > > > You dont seem to get the essence of the post.Again i am reiterating my

> > > > > point stated earlier that there is no use debating on future

> > > predictions on

> > > > > the basis of astrological points.So i am not putting forth any

> > > astrological

> > > > > points to discuss about the antardasha.

> > > > >

> > > > > i wrote the earlier post specifically for you because a day earlier to

> > > that

> > > > > you wrote a post that you will not disturb the proceedings of the

forum

> > > and

> > > > > only concentrate on astrology.But in the conversation with vijaygoel

Ji

> > > i

> > > > > saw you contending astrological points for future predictions(

welcomed

> > > > > atleast because it is astrology) followed by strong posts containing

> > > abuses

> > > > > directed at him personally when he had not written anything personal

> > > against

> > > > > you.

> > > > >

> > > > > I feel happy that i did not write a reply post ahowing white flag

> > > following

> > > > > your long " token of love for all members " post where you seeked

> > > apology.If i

> > > > > had replied ,i would have been made a fool by you the next day itself

> > > after

> > > > > seeing the post for vijaygoel ji

> > > > >

> > > > > Only time can tell " which antardasha gave money for the person " .what

is

> > > the

> > > > > use of playing " Who is Big astrologer " game now?, where time is going

> > > to

> > > > > have the last laugh.

> > > > >

> > > > > so u agree that the 20% incorrectness which krishna is not giving you

> > > > > generally may also mean this prediction can go wrong.so why should you

> > > fight

> > > > > for which you are not 100% sure and only 90% sure(for this particular

> > > case

> > > > > as according to you)

> > > > >

> > > > > We are certainly going to know in future which antardasha gave money

to

> > > the

> > > > > person and everyone of us here will come to know the truth.So please

> > > wait

> > > > > till that.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > vinoth

> > > > >

> > > > > whichancient_indian_ astrology@ .

com<ancient_indian_ astrology% 40. com>

> > > <ancient_indian_ astrology% 40. com>,

> > >

> > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Vinothkumar ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I do not understand what is being tried to propogate here.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If I give an analysis and somebody refutes my conclusions, then it

is

> > > > > > but normal, to ask for the reasons-astrologica l to the opposite

> > > person

> > > > > > refuting my claims. If it leads to a fight, then so it be. The truth

> > > > > > must come out. One cannot just walk in a forum and REFUTE without

> > > > > > supporting evidence.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are talking about 100% guaranteed Predictions. What nonsense is

> > > this

> > > > > > type of talking. What are you demanding. The sky to come on the

Earth

> > > ?

> > > > > > The water and sky to actually meet at the horzons. Is it possible ?

> > > No

> > > > > > manufaturer of any product also gives and guarantee. They only give

> > > > > > " Warranty " .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Has anybody heard of 100% Guarantee in astrological predictions?

Then

> > > > > > why this talk ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Do not reach. Talk practical please.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yet, I have confidence in my predictions and astrological knowledge,

> > > and

> > > > > > they turn 80% right by Lord Shri Krishna Grace.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In this particular case, they have been proved 100% right. For the

> > > > > > future I have mentioned, it will come 90% right, I have the

> > > confidence.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Try to negate the above statements, by astrological analysis against

> > > my

> > > > > > claims of the next antardasha not turning benefic for the native in

> > > > > > Question. But no talk other than astrology.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Preaching must only be done by those who have proved themselves.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_

astrology% 40. com>

> > > <ancient_indian_ astrology% 40. com>,

> > >

> > > > > " vinothkumarmd@ "

> > > > > > <vinothkumarmd@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear friends

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This is a general statement and does not refer to anybody.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Quarells usually crop up when there are difference in opinion with

> > > > > > each other and both have some point by which they feel their stance

> > > is

> > > > > > true.This is understandable. At the maximum one must avoid to pick

up

> > > > > > quarells.Fighting first and then asking sorry is a great quality but

> > > a

> > > > > > time waste escpecially for the one who wins a fight though his fight

> > > > > > will be centered to propagate correct astrological information and

> > > not

> > > > > > for his prestige.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The other member who loses the fight should realise and think

twice

> > > > > > before fighting.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Following is a personal statement and request to Bhaskarji and

> > > Vijay

> > > > > > goel Ji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Both of you had difference of opinion regarding which antar will

> > > give

> > > > > > liquidity

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskarji said moon

> > > > > > > Vijayji said Mars

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What is the use of fighting for future predictions? Fight was

going

> > > on

> > > > > > using astrological data as if the event has happened.Only time will

> > > tell

> > > > > > who is correct

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > so please avoid fighting for future predictions when escpecially

> > > you

> > > > > > cannot give 100% guarantee for your clients

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If you can give 100% guarantee ,then i agree you have the right to

> > > > > > quarell

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Vinoth

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_

astrology% 40. com>

> > > <ancient_indian_ astrology% 40. com>,

> > > > > neelam gupta

> > > > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > //So both factors indicate that i am not wrong and tauras lagna

> > > is

> > > > > > working.

> > > > > > > > The only thing is that i have not made comparison of all the

> > > > > > divisional

> > > > > > > > chart for Aries and Tauras lagna due to time constriant./ /

> > > > > > > > I do not agree, in fact, on the contrary I see Aries rising

> > > closer.

> > > > > > Just by

> > > > > > > > looking at transits one cannot conclude. In any case double

> > > transit

> > > > > > on any

> > > > > > > > of the 4 factors becomes too general and cannot be used as

> > > > > > conclusive

> > > > > > > > evidence unless seen through natal and dasha promise, as well as

> > > > > > vargas.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > //Also this result was matching with Bhaskerji results.//

> > > > > > > > How? I do not see again. He also derived Aries lagna I think.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I apologise for seeking these clarifications from you. This is a

> > > > > > part of

> > > > > > > > learning process for myself.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > Neelam

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 13, 2009

Dear Sreenadhji,

Just clarifying -

I ask for introduction only when I feel some potential is there in the

Poster, which could enable me to discuss freely and without any

suspicions or fears that some senior astrologer CEO from another forum

ha not taken any new id and now trying to make things difficult here.

Also the astrological experience and qualifications is only requested

for so that we know the levels of the poster, before we initiate any

astrological discussions of some grave nature, or intensify our detailed

explanations or arguments, if we know the astrological level of the

poster. This is only requested for free flow of thoughts and sharing

ones inputs. Again this helps when someone puts a quiz, so that we know

he is a genuine person and not looking for predictions on himself or his

family member. Just helps one to be either " Cautious " or " Free " while

communicating.

Of course like you said anonymousity is to be respected and we must not

ask for too many personal details, which are not required.

Love and hugs,

Bhaskar.

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Neelam ji, Bhaskar ji and Vinoth Kumar ji,

> Let me intrude here with my half baked idea about the whole

> situation. I am yet to read the posts and is yet to have a gist of