Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 // I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on the birth details of your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his various books. // Apart from whatever you are expected to prove, you must also let the members know, how did you get the data of his kids, and how did you analyse the kids charts to get the fathers Lagna. We all would like to learn this great feat from your analysis. regards/Bhaskar. , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj wrote: > > Dear Anand ji Jain, > > I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on the birth details of your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his various books. > > Now in your horoscope the antar of moon is running. > > Vimsottari Dasa: > > Moon MD: 2008-11-17 - 2018-11-17 > > Antardasas in this MD: > > Moon: 2008-11-17 - 2009-09-17 > Mars: 2009-09-17 - 2010-04-18 > > But i don't find Moon antar dasa appropriate for selling of property, this antar will not fetch you a good buyer instead it will create lot of frustration. I think Mars antar dasa starting from 17th sep 09 to 18th april 10 will be more beneficial. > > The reasons was very simple and needs no explanation. > > Thankyou, > Regards, > Vijay Goel > Jaipur. > > > > , Anand Jain swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > Of course, you are not even 100% absolutely right it is 1000% correct as there is no other way to create the liquidity. > > > > Myself behind on the matter from last one year but could not get appropriate buyer. > > > > With best of my regards > > > > Anand Jain > > > > I will call u tomorrow over phone, u may give me a miss call whenever u hv free time. > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > Re: what lagna should be taken for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:31 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand ji, > > > > Please confirm whether this liquidity you are looking for, is due from > > sale of property or not ? Or any other source. This is to confirm > > whether my observations are right or not. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji, > > > > > > If its from sale of property, then yes you have a good chances. > > > > > > I normally charge a good amount for Birth rectification from my > > > clients. You have already saved that. > > > > > > You will appreciate that astrologers who can do Birth rectification > > > properly in india, can be counted on fingers, but apart from me none > > of > > > these will give you explanations for this, as I have done, and always > > do > > > on these Groups so that others can learn. > > > > > > Any further queries can be addressed to me on a professional vein .. > > You > > > will appreciate that Astrology being my profession and having a family > > > to look after, my duties lie towards professionalism too. > > > > > > thanks and regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anand Jain > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > I have no words for thanks as you have devoted valueable time. > > > > > > > > Sir, If U don't mind and hv some time for me, is there any clue for > > > betterment for me or expecting any huge liquidity before 18.7.2009. > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand jain > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna should be taken > > for > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 8:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain ji, > > > > > > > > I took up Your case for judgement at 9th Jul 2009 , that was > > yesterday > > > at Bombay in evening at 18.21.08 > > > > > > > > Now what is the Ruling Planets Theory. > > > > Whenever an astrologer sincerely wishes to confirm some data > > available > > > before him, and does not have any further inputs, then the Divine > > > Configurations of the stars in the sky come to his rescue. > > > > > > > > What is to be done here. > > > > One must note at time of judgement what is the prevailing Lagna > > Lord, > > > Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day Lord. This is known as > > > LSRD. > > > > At time of judgement taken by me, the Lagna was Sagittarius, Moon > > Star > > > was Uttarasadha, Moon Raashi was Capricorn, and the Day was Wednesday. > > > > > > > > So taking all the Lords of these points we have the LSRD as Jupiter, > > > The Sun, Saturn and Mercury. There is a rule that if Rahu or Ketu > > > occupies the raashi iof any of these Lords, then one must change the > > > Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently occupying Capricorn owned by > > > Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of Saturn. > > > > > > > > Now the New LSRD is Jupiter, The Sun, Rahu and Mercury. > > > > > > > > How does one check whether the Lagna arrived at the recorded Birth > > > time is correct ? > > > > > > > > If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra Lord and the Sub Lord > > > planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that the recorded time is > > > correct. > > > > > > > > With your given birth time of 19.30 at Delhi Birth, on 14th October > > > 1960 the Lagna arrived at was Taurus 00.04.43 using KP Ayanamsha and > > the > > > Nakshatra Lord was The Sun and the Sub Lord was Rahu. > > > > > > > > Since we have Sun and Rahu both in our LSRD at time of judgement in > > > Bombay we accept that the Birth time is correct. (Though whether to > > take > > > Aries or Taurus Lagna was still not solved, at least I knew from above > > > xcersise, that your time of Birth was nearly right and not many > > minutes > > > apart). > > > > > > > > But I faced 2 more problems which made me study further - > > > > > > > > 1st problem - Using Taurus Lagna when I tried to match the events of > > > your Life. Nothing matched. > > > > > > > > 2nd problem - When the events did not match. I was in a quandary. I > > > checked the minute divisions of the degrees and realised that from > > > 29.13.20 degrees of Aries uptil 01.13.20 degrees of Taurus, the > > > Nakshatra Lord and the SubLord would remain same. In simple language > > > this means that you could have born about 3 minutes before close of > > > Mesha Lagna and 3 minutes after close of Mesha Lagna, yet Star lord > > and > > > Sub lord would still remain same. > > > > > > > > I made one more additional Horary chart to recheck this (This is a > > > advanced technique . Cannot write here because many will not > > understand > > > and to make one understand I will have to write another page and > > > everyone will get confused with so much at a time) and found Mars was > > > figuring in the prominent planets. This gave me a clue and went ahead > > > and fixed the Birth time as 19.29.30 without meddling too much with > > the > > > recorded time. > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna arrived at is,Aries 29.56.02 Star Lord and Sub Lord > > > remain same as in previous birth time of 19.30.00 IST > > > > > > > > Now to match the events - > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage on 23.11.85 Venus-Venus . Venus signifies the houses 2 > > > and 7 required to be activated primarily for marriage. If You have a > > > software which shows the significators, then note that Venus is the > > only > > > planet among the 9 Planets in your chart, which shows the SubLord > > again > > > as Venus signifying, 2,7 and 9. > > > > > > > > 2) First daughter 16.12.1986 Venus - Sun. The Sun signifies the 5th > > > house. > > > > > > > > 3) Second daughter 21.09.1988 Venus-Moon-Sun. mars about to enter on > > > 3rd October 1988. Both Sun and Mars signify the 5th house. > > > > > > > > 4) Father expired on 10.8.1990 Rahu amongst other houses signifies > > the > > > 8th and 9th house too. > > > > > > > > You will not get the above matching by Taurus Lagna at all, by > > > whatever stretch. > > > > > > > > Hope my time spent is of use to You. > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain, > > > > > > > > > > I have already done some work on this. But before we move further > > > could > > > > > you pl. call me on my cell number 9323522663, so that I could > > spend > > > some > > > > > time on same. > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anand Jain > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful manner, as u r explaining to us. > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.10.1960 19.30 Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > married on 23.11.85 > > > > > > > > > > > > first daughter 16.12.1986 > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd daughter 21.9.1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > Father expired 10.8.1990 > > > > > > > > > > > > Detained by Custom officials on 29.12.1990 and case finalised on > > > > > 19.4.2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna should be > > > taken for > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Wednesday, 8 July, 2009, 6:19 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > If You are using KP ayanamsha then it will the same Lagna. If > > you > > > are > > > > > > using Lahiris or Ramans then there may be a doubt of the Lagna. > > > (This > > > > > is > > > > > > presuming that your time of Birth is accurate). > > > > > > > > > > > > But before that there is a process known as Ruling Planets > > theory > > > > > which > > > > > > will help you guide to the right Lagna. If You put the birth > > > details > > > > > > here, I will make a Live example of this process so all those > > who > > > are > > > > > > not familiar with this can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also put a few incindets from your Life, marriage date (If You > > are > > > > > > married, childrens birth date,) date of employment etc. whatever > > > major > > > > > > incidents you remember, limiting it to 5 , so that the mail does > > > not > > > > > go > > > > > > too long . > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " swarup1068 " > > > > > > <swarup1068@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will u pl clarify, if horoscope of any native shows the lagna > > > degree > > > > > > of 00:01, what lagna should be taken for prediction > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand jain ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls remov ur phone Numbr along with posts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds Team grp managemnt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. 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Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Dear Friends, I have had differences with Bhaskar-ji in the past and may even have so in the future but I completely agree with Bhaskar-ji here. We are an open group, so if someone wants to refute the Ruling Planet theory and the birth time correction method detailed by Bhaskar-ji (brilliantly I must add), I would really love to learn his/her method. I am very detached on cyber-groups so please do not take this mail personally. Knowledge is the only thing that matters to me, nothing else. Regards Souvik , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > This is not a normal Group like J.Ganga or J.Remedies where one picks up > Queries and keeps answering them. This is a serious astrology group > which I consider exclusive and enjoy being present in, due to free > speech allowed, democratic set up and incessant flow of knowledge > flowing around with great intelligent members. At such times, when a > member writes enquiring about his Lagna which is at border, and we > answer him with a detailed logical analysis, and then some other > astrologer(?) comes in suddenly at the end time of the thread and talks > contrary to what has been concluded, then it is a normal protocol, > unwritten, but well understood in an assembly of intelligent members, > that he is supposed to support his contradictory claims with logical > analysis given in counter argument. One cannot say that " I think the > Lagna will be this " , " I feel the next antardasha will be beneficial " , > " This is too simple to explain " . It is unacceptable . I request that > the members take note of this, and call for an analysis from this > member, when I have already presented my side with supported analysis, > and so has another member with his Lagna Sphuta mail. But in this > case this member only " thinks " but has nothing to present in support of > his thinking. Shri KN Rao Sahab's name has been taken to support and > give some credence to his thinking, but no palpable logic alongside is > given. This is outright ridiculous. regards, Bhaskar. > > > > , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > We would like to hear your explanations on why the Lagna must be taken > > as Vrishabha only and not as Mesha. > > > > What appears simple to you, may not be as simple actually. Please > > explain us why you think the way you do. > > > > I heard from someone that you are a astrologer or at least claim to > say > > so. I also heard that you have a website offering services for same. I > > may be wrong. Then you may correct me. I would like to see the > astrology > > part coming from you, rather than surmises and thoughts or what you > > think. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goelji, > > > > > > Shri KN Rao ji has written much. Which of his teachings impies that > > the > > > Lagna is Vrishabha and not Mesha. > > > > > > Why will Moon antardasha not appropriate for selling property ? The > > > reasons - Astrological? Why dpo you think that the Mars dasha would > be > > > more beneficial ? The reasons ? - Astrological ? > > > > > > Why are the reasons very simple and need no explanations. I cannot > > > understand this simplicity. Can You explain ? > > > > > > And where were you when all this was discussed uptil now. You come > > back, > > > when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from some > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now ? This > is > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, so that > > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as the logs " . > > > > > > Mars antar is going to be a very malefic period for him . What > rubbish > > > are you talking that it will be beneficial. Do you know even the > > basics > > > of astrology ? > > > > > > After the story of Ramayana has been heard by people, You are now > > > talking " I will tell you who is Ram and Sita " . > > > > > > Please explain us what is simple which needs no explanation ? > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > > > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji Jain, > > > > > > > > I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on the birth details > of > > > your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his various books. > > > > > > > > Now in your horoscope the antar of moon is running. > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa: > > > > > > > > Moon MD: 2008-11-17 - 2018-11-17 > > > > > > > > Antardasas in this MD: > > > > > > > > Moon: 2008-11-17 - 2009-09-17 > > > > Mars: 2009-09-17 - 2010-04-18 > > > > > > > > But i don't find Moon antar dasa appropriate for selling of > > property, > > > this antar will not fetch you a good buyer instead it will create > lot > > of > > > frustration. I think Mars antar dasa starting from 17th sep 09 to > 18th > > > april 10 will be more beneficial. > > > > > > > > The reasons was very simple and needs no explanation. > > > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > > Regards, > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Anand Jain > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > Of course, you are not even 100% absolutely right it is 1000% > > > correct as there is no other way to create the liquidity. > > > > > > > > > > Myself behind on the matter from last one year but could not get > > > appropriate buyer. > > > > > > > > > > With best of my regards > > > > > > > > > > Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > I will call u tomorrow over phone, u may give me a miss call > > > whenever u hv free time. > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > Re: what lagna should be > taken > > > for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:31 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > Please confirm whether this liquidity you are looking for, is > due > > > from > > > > > sale of property or not ? Or any other source. This is to > confirm > > > > > whether my observations are right or not. > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > If its from sale of property, then yes you have a good > chances. > > > > > > > > > > > > I normally charge a good amount for Birth rectification from > my > > > > > > clients. You have already saved that. > > > > > > > > > > > > You will appreciate that astrologers who can do Birth > > > rectification > > > > > > properly in india, can be counted on fingers, but apart from > me > > > none > > > > > of > > > > > > these will give you explanations for this, as I have done, and > > > always > > > > > do > > > > > > on these Groups so that others can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any further queries can be addressed to me on a professional > > vein > > > . > > > > > You > > > > > > will appreciate that Astrology being my profession and having > a > > > family > > > > > > to look after, my duties lie towards professionalism too. > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anand Jain > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no words for thanks as you have devoted valueable > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, If U don't mind and hv some time for me, is there any > > clue > > > for > > > > > > betterment for me or expecting any huge liquidity before > > > 18.7.2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna should > be > > > taken > > > > > for > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 8:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I took up Your case for judgement at 9th Jul 2009 , that was > > > > > yesterday > > > > > > at Bombay in evening at 18.21.08 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what is the Ruling Planets Theory. > > > > > > > Whenever an astrologer sincerely wishes to confirm some data > > > > > available > > > > > > before him, and does not have any further inputs, then the > > Divine > > > > > > Configurations of the stars in the sky come to his rescue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is to be done here. > > > > > > > One must note at time of judgement what is the prevailing > > Lagna > > > > > Lord, > > > > > > Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day Lord. This is > known > > > as > > > > > > LSRD. > > > > > > > At time of judgement taken by me, the Lagna was Sagittarius, > > > Moon > > > > > Star > > > > > > was Uttarasadha, Moon Raashi was Capricorn, and the Day was > > > Wednesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So taking all the Lords of these points we have the LSRD as > > > Jupiter, > > > > > > The Sun, Saturn and Mercury. There is a rule that if Rahu or > > Ketu > > > > > > occupies the raashi iof any of these Lords, then one must > change > > > the > > > > > > Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently occupying Capricorn owned > > by > > > > > > Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the New LSRD is Jupiter, The Sun, Rahu and Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one check whether the Lagna arrived at the recorded > > > Birth > > > > > > time is correct ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra Lord and the Sub > > Lord > > > > > > planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that the recorded > time > > > is > > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With your given birth time of 19.30 at Delhi Birth, on 14th > > > October > > > > > > 1960 the Lagna arrived at was Taurus 00.04.43 using KP > Ayanamsha > > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord was The Sun and the Sub Lord was Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we have Sun and Rahu both in our LSRD at time of > > judgement > > > in > > > > > > Bombay we accept that the Birth time is correct. (Though > whether > > > to > > > > > take > > > > > > Aries or Taurus Lagna was still not solved, at least I knew > from > > > above > > > > > > xcersise, that your time of Birth was nearly right and not > many > > > > > minutes > > > > > > apart). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I faced 2 more problems which made me study further - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1st problem - Using Taurus Lagna when I tried to match the > > > events of > > > > > > your Life. Nothing matched. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd problem - When the events did not match. I was in a > > > quandary. I > > > > > > checked the minute divisions of the degrees and realised that > > from > > > > > > 29.13.20 degrees of Aries uptil 01.13.20 degrees of Taurus, > the > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord and the SubLord would remain same. In simple > > > language > > > > > > this means that you could have born about 3 minutes before > close > > > of > > > > > > Mesha Lagna and 3 minutes after close of Mesha Lagna, yet Star > > > lord > > > > > and > > > > > > Sub lord would still remain same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I made one more additional Horary chart to recheck this > (This > > is > > > a > > > > > > advanced technique . Cannot write here because many will not > > > > > understand > > > > > > and to make one understand I will have to write another page > and > > > > > > everyone will get confused with so much at a time) and found > > Mars > > > was > > > > > > figuring in the prominent planets. This gave me a clue and > went > > > ahead > > > > > > and fixed the Birth time as 19.29.30 without meddling too much > > > with > > > > > the > > > > > > recorded time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna arrived at is,Aries 29.56.02 Star Lord and Sub > > > Lord > > > > > > remain same as in previous birth time of 19.30.00 IST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now to match the events - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage on 23.11.85 Venus-Venus . Venus signifies the > > houses > > > 2 > > > > > > and 7 required to be activated primarily for marriage. If You > > have > > > a > > > > > > software which shows the significators, then note that Venus > is > > > the > > > > > only > > > > > > planet among the 9 Planets in your chart, which shows the > > SubLord > > > > > again > > > > > > as Venus signifying, 2,7 and 9. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) First daughter 16.12.1986 Venus - Sun. The Sun signifies > > the > > > 5th > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Second daughter 21.09.1988 Venus-Moon-Sun. mars about to > > > enter on > > > > > > 3rd October 1988. Both Sun and Mars signify the 5th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Father expired on 10.8.1990 Rahu amongst other houses > > > signifies > > > > > the > > > > > > 8th and 9th house too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will not get the above matching by Taurus Lagna at all, > by > > > > > > whatever stretch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope my time spent is of use to You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already done some work on this. But before we move > > > further > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > you pl. call me on my cell number 9323522663, so that I > > could > > > > > spend > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > time on same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anand > > Jain > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful manner, as u r explaining to us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.10.1960 19.30 Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married on 23.11.85 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first daughter 16.12.1986 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd daughter 21.9.1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father expired 10.8.1990 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Detained by Custom officials on 29.12.1990 and case > > > finalised on > > > > > > > > 19.4.2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna > should > > > be > > > > > > taken for > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 8 July, 2009, 6:19 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If You are using KP ayanamsha then it will the same > Lagna. > > > If > > > > > you > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > using Lahiris or Ramans then there may be a doubt of the > > > Lagna. > > > > > > (This > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > presuming that your time of Birth is accurate). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But before that there is a process known as Ruling > Planets > > > > > theory > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > will help you guide to the right Lagna. If You put the > > birth > > > > > > details > > > > > > > > > here, I will make a Live example of this process so all > > > those > > > > > who > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > not familiar with this can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also put a few incindets from your Life, marriage date > (If > > > You > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > married, childrens birth date,) date of employment etc. > > > whatever > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > incidents you remember, limiting it to 5 , so that the > > mail > > > does > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > too long . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > > " swarup1068 " > > > > > > > > > <swarup1068@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will u pl clarify, if horoscope of any native shows > the > > > lagna > > > > > > degree > > > > > > > > > of 00:01, what lagna should be taken for prediction > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand jain ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls remov ur phone Numbr along with posts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds Team grp managemnt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer > > > Internet > > > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo > > rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like > you. > > > Check > > > > > > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Dear Souvik ji, That was a real mature mail, I must say. Differences may be there in future too, with You, Sunil Nairji, Sreenadhji, Neelamji or just any other member , it does not matter as long as we are not evil intentioned from inside, and then realise gradually our mistakes and come back again together like school friends. When two own brothers cant talk alike, what to say when strangers meet on these Forums. But the pure soul does not allow the differences to remain for long, and comes back and make attempts to clear it. warm wishes, Bhaskar. , " Souvik Dutta " <explore_vulcan wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > I have had differences with Bhaskar-ji in the past and may even have so in the future but I completely agree with Bhaskar-ji here. > > We are an open group, so if someone wants to refute the Ruling Planet theory and the birth time correction method detailed by Bhaskar-ji (brilliantly I must add), I would really love to learn his/her method. > > I am very detached on cyber-groups so please do not take this mail personally. > > Knowledge is the only thing that matters to me, nothing else. > > Regards > > Souvik > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > This is not a normal Group like J.Ganga or J.Remedies where one picks up > > Queries and keeps answering them. This is a serious astrology group > > which I consider exclusive and enjoy being present in, due to free > > speech allowed, democratic set up and incessant flow of knowledge > > flowing around with great intelligent members. At such times, when a > > member writes enquiring about his Lagna which is at border, and we > > answer him with a detailed logical analysis, and then some other > > astrologer(?) comes in suddenly at the end time of the thread and talks > > contrary to what has been concluded, then it is a normal protocol, > > unwritten, but well understood in an assembly of intelligent members, > > that he is supposed to support his contradictory claims with logical > > analysis given in counter argument. One cannot say that " I think the > > Lagna will be this " , " I feel the next antardasha will be beneficial " , > > " This is too simple to explain " . It is unacceptable . I request that > > the members take note of this, and call for an analysis from this > > member, when I have already presented my side with supported analysis, > > and so has another member with his Lagna Sphuta mail. But in this > > case this member only " thinks " but has nothing to present in support of > > his thinking. Shri KN Rao Sahab's name has been taken to support and > > give some credence to his thinking, but no palpable logic alongside is > > given. This is outright ridiculous. regards, Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > We would like to hear your explanations on why the Lagna must be taken > > > as Vrishabha only and not as Mesha. > > > > > > What appears simple to you, may not be as simple actually. Please > > > explain us why you think the way you do. > > > > > > I heard from someone that you are a astrologer or at least claim to > > say > > > so. I also heard that you have a website offering services for same. I > > > may be wrong. Then you may correct me. I would like to see the > > astrology > > > part coming from you, rather than surmises and thoughts or what you > > > think. > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goelji, > > > > > > > > Shri KN Rao ji has written much. Which of his teachings impies that > > > the > > > > Lagna is Vrishabha and not Mesha. > > > > > > > > Why will Moon antardasha not appropriate for selling property ? The > > > > reasons - Astrological? Why dpo you think that the Mars dasha would > > be > > > > more beneficial ? The reasons ? - Astrological ? > > > > > > > > Why are the reasons very simple and need no explanations. I cannot > > > > understand this simplicity. Can You explain ? > > > > > > > > And where were you when all this was discussed uptil now. You come > > > back, > > > > when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from some > > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now ? This > > is > > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, so that > > > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as the logs " . > > > > > > > > Mars antar is going to be a very malefic period for him . What > > rubbish > > > > are you talking that it will be beneficial. Do you know even the > > > basics > > > > of astrology ? > > > > > > > > After the story of Ramayana has been heard by people, You are now > > > > talking " I will tell you who is Ram and Sita " . > > > > > > > > Please explain us what is simple which needs no explanation ? > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > > > > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji Jain, > > > > > > > > > > I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on the birth details > > of > > > > your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his various books. > > > > > > > > > > Now in your horoscope the antar of moon is running. > > > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa: > > > > > > > > > > Moon MD: 2008-11-17 - 2018-11-17 > > > > > > > > > > Antardasas in this MD: > > > > > > > > > > Moon: 2008-11-17 - 2009-09-17 > > > > > Mars: 2009-09-17 - 2010-04-18 > > > > > > > > > > But i don't find Moon antar dasa appropriate for selling of > > > property, > > > > this antar will not fetch you a good buyer instead it will create > > lot > > > of > > > > frustration. I think Mars antar dasa starting from 17th sep 09 to > > 18th > > > > april 10 will be more beneficial. > > > > > > > > > > The reasons was very simple and needs no explanation. > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Anand Jain > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, you are not even 100% absolutely right it is 1000% > > > > correct as there is no other way to create the liquidity. > > > > > > > > > > > > Myself behind on the matter from last one year but could not get > > > > appropriate buyer. > > > > > > > > > > > > With best of my regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > I will call u tomorrow over phone, u may give me a miss call > > > > whenever u hv free time. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > Re: what lagna should be > > taken > > > > for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:31 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please confirm whether this liquidity you are looking for, is > > due > > > > from > > > > > > sale of property or not ? Or any other source. This is to > > confirm > > > > > > whether my observations are right or not. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If its from sale of property, then yes you have a good > > chances. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I normally charge a good amount for Birth rectification from > > my > > > > > > > clients. You have already saved that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will appreciate that astrologers who can do Birth > > > > rectification > > > > > > > properly in india, can be counted on fingers, but apart from > > me > > > > none > > > > > > of > > > > > > > these will give you explanations for this, as I have done, and > > > > always > > > > > > do > > > > > > > on these Groups so that others can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any further queries can be addressed to me on a professional > > > vein > > > > . > > > > > > You > > > > > > > will appreciate that Astrology being my profession and having > > a > > > > family > > > > > > > to look after, my duties lie towards professionalism too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anand Jain > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no words for thanks as you have devoted valueable > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, If U don't mind and hv some time for me, is there any > > > clue > > > > for > > > > > > > betterment for me or expecting any huge liquidity before > > > > 18.7.2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna should > > be > > > > taken > > > > > > for > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 8:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I took up Your case for judgement at 9th Jul 2009 , that was > > > > > > yesterday > > > > > > > at Bombay in evening at 18.21.08 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what is the Ruling Planets Theory. > > > > > > > > Whenever an astrologer sincerely wishes to confirm some data > > > > > > available > > > > > > > before him, and does not have any further inputs, then the > > > Divine > > > > > > > Configurations of the stars in the sky come to his rescue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is to be done here. > > > > > > > > One must note at time of judgement what is the prevailing > > > Lagna > > > > > > Lord, > > > > > > > Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day Lord. This is > > known > > > > as > > > > > > > LSRD. > > > > > > > > At time of judgement taken by me, the Lagna was Sagittarius, > > > > Moon > > > > > > Star > > > > > > > was Uttarasadha, Moon Raashi was Capricorn, and the Day was > > > > Wednesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So taking all the Lords of these points we have the LSRD as > > > > Jupiter, > > > > > > > The Sun, Saturn and Mercury. There is a rule that if Rahu or > > > Ketu > > > > > > > occupies the raashi iof any of these Lords, then one must > > change > > > > the > > > > > > > Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently occupying Capricorn owned > > > by > > > > > > > Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the New LSRD is Jupiter, The Sun, Rahu and Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one check whether the Lagna arrived at the recorded > > > > Birth > > > > > > > time is correct ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra Lord and the Sub > > > Lord > > > > > > > planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that the recorded > > time > > > > is > > > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With your given birth time of 19.30 at Delhi Birth, on 14th > > > > October > > > > > > > 1960 the Lagna arrived at was Taurus 00.04.43 using KP > > Ayanamsha > > > > and > > > > > > the > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord was The Sun and the Sub Lord was Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we have Sun and Rahu both in our LSRD at time of > > > judgement > > > > in > > > > > > > Bombay we accept that the Birth time is correct. (Though > > whether > > > > to > > > > > > take > > > > > > > Aries or Taurus Lagna was still not solved, at least I knew > > from > > > > above > > > > > > > xcersise, that your time of Birth was nearly right and not > > many > > > > > > minutes > > > > > > > apart). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I faced 2 more problems which made me study further - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1st problem - Using Taurus Lagna when I tried to match the > > > > events of > > > > > > > your Life. Nothing matched. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd problem - When the events did not match. I was in a > > > > quandary. I > > > > > > > checked the minute divisions of the degrees and realised that > > > from > > > > > > > 29.13.20 degrees of Aries uptil 01.13.20 degrees of Taurus, > > the > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord and the SubLord would remain same. In simple > > > > language > > > > > > > this means that you could have born about 3 minutes before > > close > > > > of > > > > > > > Mesha Lagna and 3 minutes after close of Mesha Lagna, yet Star > > > > lord > > > > > > and > > > > > > > Sub lord would still remain same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I made one more additional Horary chart to recheck this > > (This > > > is > > > > a > > > > > > > advanced technique . Cannot write here because many will not > > > > > > understand > > > > > > > and to make one understand I will have to write another page > > and > > > > > > > everyone will get confused with so much at a time) and found > > > Mars > > > > was > > > > > > > figuring in the prominent planets. This gave me a clue and > > went > > > > ahead > > > > > > > and fixed the Birth time as 19.29.30 without meddling too much > > > > with > > > > > > the > > > > > > > recorded time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna arrived at is,Aries 29.56.02 Star Lord and Sub > > > > Lord > > > > > > > remain same as in previous birth time of 19.30.00 IST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now to match the events - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage on 23.11.85 Venus-Venus . Venus signifies the > > > houses > > > > 2 > > > > > > > and 7 required to be activated primarily for marriage. If You > > > have > > > > a > > > > > > > software which shows the significators, then note that Venus > > is > > > > the > > > > > > only > > > > > > > planet among the 9 Planets in your chart, which shows the > > > SubLord > > > > > > again > > > > > > > as Venus signifying, 2,7 and 9. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) First daughter 16.12.1986 Venus - Sun. The Sun signifies > > > the > > > > 5th > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Second daughter 21.09.1988 Venus-Moon-Sun. mars about to > > > > enter on > > > > > > > 3rd October 1988. Both Sun and Mars signify the 5th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Father expired on 10.8.1990 Rahu amongst other houses > > > > signifies > > > > > > the > > > > > > > 8th and 9th house too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will not get the above matching by Taurus Lagna at all, > > by > > > > > > > whatever stretch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope my time spent is of use to You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already done some work on this. But before we move > > > > further > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > you pl. call me on my cell number 9323522663, so that I > > > could > > > > > > spend > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > time on same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anand > > > Jain > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful manner, as u r explaining to us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.10.1960 19.30 Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married on 23.11.85 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first daughter 16.12.1986 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd daughter 21.9.1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father expired 10.8.1990 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Detained by Custom officials on 29.12.1990 and case > > > > finalised on > > > > > > > > > 19.4.2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna > > should > > > > be > > > > > > > taken for > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 8 July, 2009, 6:19 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If You are using KP ayanamsha then it will the same > > Lagna. > > > > If > > > > > > you > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > using Lahiris or Ramans then there may be a doubt of the > > > > Lagna. > > > > > > > (This > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > presuming that your time of Birth is accurate). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But before that there is a process known as Ruling > > Planets > > > > > > theory > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > will help you guide to the right Lagna. If You put the > > > birth > > > > > > > details > > > > > > > > > > here, I will make a Live example of this process so all > > > > those > > > > > > who > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > not familiar with this can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also put a few incindets from your Life, marriage date > > (If > > > > You > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > married, childrens birth date,) date of employment etc. > > > > whatever > > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > > incidents you remember, limiting it to 5 , so that the > > > mail > > > > does > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > too long . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > > > " swarup1068 " > > > > > > > > > > <swarup1068@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will u pl clarify, if horoscope of any native shows > > the > > > > lagna > > > > > > > degree > > > > > > > > > > of 00:01, what lagna should be taken for prediction > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand jain ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls remov ur phone Numbr along with posts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds Team grp managemnt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer > > > > Internet > > > > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo > > > rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like > > you. > > > > Check > > > > > > > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Dear Vijay Goel ji,Kindly explain the basis of your judgment. I think the demand is justified.There are various methods of BT correction, they might give different results. Even the same method may give difference of outcome in different hands. But the method should be clear and understandable. You have referred to KNRs methods, which many of us here would be familiar with and the rest would like to learn. We hope you'll soon substantiate your statements.RegardsNeelam2009/7/10 Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan Dear Friends, I have had differences with Bhaskar-ji in the past and may even have so in the future but I completely agree with Bhaskar-ji here. We are an open group, so if someone wants to refute the Ruling Planet theory and the birth time correction method detailed by Bhaskar-ji (brilliantly I must add), I would really love to learn his/her method. I am very detached on cyber-groups so please do not take this mail personally. Knowledge is the only thing that matters to me, nothing else. Regards Souvik , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > This is not a normal Group like J.Ganga or J.Remedies where one picks up > Queries and keeps answering them. This is a serious astrology group > which I consider exclusive and enjoy being present in, due to free > speech allowed, democratic set up and incessant flow of knowledge > flowing around with great intelligent members. At such times, when a > member writes enquiring about his Lagna which is at border, and we > answer him with a detailed logical analysis, and then some other > astrologer(?) comes in suddenly at the end time of the thread and talks > contrary to what has been concluded, then it is a normal protocol, > unwritten, but well understood in an assembly of intelligent members, > that he is supposed to support his contradictory claims with logical > analysis given in counter argument. One cannot say that " I think the > Lagna will be this " , " I feel the next antardasha will be beneficial " , > " This is too simple to explain " . It is unacceptable . I request that > the members take note of this, and call for an analysis from this > member, when I have already presented my side with supported analysis, > and so has another member with his Lagna Sphuta mail. But in this > case this member only " thinks " but has nothing to present in support of > his thinking. Shri KN Rao Sahab's name has been taken to support and > give some credence to his thinking, but no palpable logic alongside is > given. This is outright ridiculous. regards, Bhaskar. > > > > , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > We would like to hear your explanations on why the Lagna must be taken > > as Vrishabha only and not as Mesha. > > > > What appears simple to you, may not be as simple actually. Please > > explain us why you think the way you do. > > > > I heard from someone that you are a astrologer or at least claim to > say > > so. I also heard that you have a website offering services for same. I > > may be wrong. Then you may correct me. I would like to see the > astrology > > part coming from you, rather than surmises and thoughts or what you > > think. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goelji, > > > > > > Shri KN Rao ji has written much. Which of his teachings impies that > > the > > > Lagna is Vrishabha and not Mesha. > > > > > > Why will Moon antardasha not appropriate for selling property ? The > > > reasons - Astrological? Why dpo you think that the Mars dasha would > be > > > more beneficial ? The reasons ? - Astrological ? > > > > > > Why are the reasons very simple and need no explanations. I cannot > > > understand this simplicity. Can You explain ? > > > > > > And where were you when all this was discussed uptil now. You come > > back, > > > when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from some > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now ? This > is > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, so that > > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as the logs " . > > > > > > Mars antar is going to be a very malefic period for him . What > rubbish > > > are you talking that it will be beneficial. Do you know even the > > basics > > > of astrology ? > > > > > > After the story of Ramayana has been heard by people, You are now > > > talking " I will tell you who is Ram and Sita " . > > > > > > Please explain us what is simple which needs no explanation ? > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > > > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji Jain, > > > > > > > > I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on the birth details > of > > > your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his various books. > > > > > > > > Now in your horoscope the antar of moon is running. > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa: > > > > > > > > Moon MD: 2008-11-17 - 2018-11-17 > > > > > > > > Antardasas in this MD: > > > > > > > > Moon: 2008-11-17 - 2009-09-17 > > > > Mars: 2009-09-17 - 2010-04-18 > > > > > > > > But i don't find Moon antar dasa appropriate for selling of > > property, > > > this antar will not fetch you a good buyer instead it will create > lot > > of > > > frustration. I think Mars antar dasa starting from 17th sep 09 to > 18th > > > april 10 will be more beneficial. > > > > > > > > The reasons was very simple and needs no explanation. > > > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > > Regards, > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Anand Jain > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > Of course, you are not even 100% absolutely right it is 1000% > > > correct as there is no other way to create the liquidity. > > > > > > > > > > Myself behind on the matter from last one year but could not get > > > appropriate buyer. > > > > > > > > > > With best of my regards > > > > > > > > > > Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > I will call u tomorrow over phone, u may give me a miss call > > > whenever u hv free time. > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > Re: what lagna should be > taken > > > for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:31 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > Please confirm whether this liquidity you are looking for, is > due > > > from > > > > > sale of property or not ? Or any other source. This is to > confirm > > > > > whether my observations are right or not. > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > If its from sale of property, then yes you have a good > chances. > > > > > > > > > > > > I normally charge a good amount for Birth rectification from > my > > > > > > clients. You have already saved that. > > > > > > > > > > > > You will appreciate that astrologers who can do Birth > > > rectification > > > > > > properly in india, can be counted on fingers, but apart from > me > > > none > > > > > of > > > > > > these will give you explanations for this, as I have done, and > > > always > > > > > do > > > > > > on these Groups so that others can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any further queries can be addressed to me on a professional > > vein > > > . > > > > > You > > > > > > will appreciate that Astrology being my profession and having > a > > > family > > > > > > to look after, my duties lie towards professionalism too. > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anand Jain > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no words for thanks as you have devoted valueable > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, If U don't mind and hv some time for me, is there any > > clue > > > for > > > > > > betterment for me or expecting any huge liquidity before > > > 18.7.2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna should > be > > > taken > > > > > for > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 8:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I took up Your case for judgement at 9th Jul 2009 , that was > > > > > yesterday > > > > > > at Bombay in evening at 18.21.08 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what is the Ruling Planets Theory. > > > > > > > Whenever an astrologer sincerely wishes to confirm some data > > > > > available > > > > > > before him, and does not have any further inputs, then the > > Divine > > > > > > Configurations of the stars in the sky come to his rescue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is to be done here. > > > > > > > One must note at time of judgement what is the prevailing > > Lagna > > > > > Lord, > > > > > > Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day Lord. This is > known > > > as > > > > > > LSRD. > > > > > > > At time of judgement taken by me, the Lagna was Sagittarius, > > > Moon > > > > > Star > > > > > > was Uttarasadha, Moon Raashi was Capricorn, and the Day was > > > Wednesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So taking all the Lords of these points we have the LSRD as > > > Jupiter, > > > > > > The Sun, Saturn and Mercury. There is a rule that if Rahu or > > Ketu > > > > > > occupies the raashi iof any of these Lords, then one must > change > > > the > > > > > > Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently occupying Capricorn owned > > by > > > > > > Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the New LSRD is Jupiter, The Sun, Rahu and Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one check whether the Lagna arrived at the recorded > > > Birth > > > > > > time is correct ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra Lord and the Sub > > Lord > > > > > > planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that the recorded > time > > > is > > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With your given birth time of 19.30 at Delhi Birth, on 14th > > > October > > > > > > 1960 the Lagna arrived at was Taurus 00.04.43 using KP > Ayanamsha > > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord was The Sun and the Sub Lord was Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we have Sun and Rahu both in our LSRD at time of > > judgement > > > in > > > > > > Bombay we accept that the Birth time is correct. (Though > whether > > > to > > > > > take > > > > > > Aries or Taurus Lagna was still not solved, at least I knew > from > > > above > > > > > > xcersise, that your time of Birth was nearly right and not > many > > > > > minutes > > > > > > apart). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I faced 2 more problems which made me study further - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1st problem - Using Taurus Lagna when I tried to match the > > > events of > > > > > > your Life. Nothing matched. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd problem - When the events did not match. I was in a > > > quandary. I > > > > > > checked the minute divisions of the degrees and realised that > > from > > > > > > 29.13.20 degrees of Aries uptil 01.13.20 degrees of Taurus, > the > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord and the SubLord would remain same. In simple > > > language > > > > > > this means that you could have born about 3 minutes before > close > > > of > > > > > > Mesha Lagna and 3 minutes after close of Mesha Lagna, yet Star > > > lord > > > > > and > > > > > > Sub lord would still remain same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I made one more additional Horary chart to recheck this > (This > > is > > > a > > > > > > advanced technique . Cannot write here because many will not > > > > > understand > > > > > > and to make one understand I will have to write another page > and > > > > > > everyone will get confused with so much at a time) and found > > Mars > > > was > > > > > > figuring in the prominent planets. This gave me a clue and > went > > > ahead > > > > > > and fixed the Birth time as 19.29.30 without meddling too much > > > with > > > > > the > > > > > > recorded time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna arrived at is,Aries 29.56.02 Star Lord and Sub > > > Lord > > > > > > remain same as in previous birth time of 19.30.00 IST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now to match the events - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage on 23.11.85 Venus-Venus . Venus signifies the > > houses > > > 2 > > > > > > and 7 required to be activated primarily for marriage. If You > > have > > > a > > > > > > software which shows the significators, then note that Venus > is > > > the > > > > > only > > > > > > planet among the 9 Planets in your chart, which shows the > > SubLord > > > > > again > > > > > > as Venus signifying, 2,7 and 9. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) First daughter 16.12.1986 Venus - Sun. The Sun signifies > > the > > > 5th > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Second daughter 21.09.1988 Venus-Moon-Sun. mars about to > > > enter on > > > > > > 3rd October 1988. Both Sun and Mars signify the 5th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Father expired on 10.8.1990 Rahu amongst other houses > > > signifies > > > > > the > > > > > > 8th and 9th house too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will not get the above matching by Taurus Lagna at all, > by > > > > > > whatever stretch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope my time spent is of use to You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already done some work on this. But before we move > > > further > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > you pl. call me on my cell number 9323522663, so that I > > could > > > > > spend > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > time on same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anand > > Jain > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful manner, as u r explaining to us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.10.1960 19.30 Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married on 23.11.85 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first daughter 16.12.1986 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd daughter 21.9.1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father expired 10.8.1990 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Detained by Custom officials on 29.12.1990 and case > > > finalised on > > > > > > > > 19.4.2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna > should > > > be > > > > > > taken for > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 8 July, 2009, 6:19 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If You are using KP ayanamsha then it will the same > Lagna. > > > If > > > > > you > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > using Lahiris or Ramans then there may be a doubt of the > > > Lagna. > > > > > > (This > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > presuming that your time of Birth is accurate). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But before that there is a process known as Ruling > Planets > > > > > theory > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > will help you guide to the right Lagna. If You put the > > birth > > > > > > details > > > > > > > > > here, I will make a Live example of this process so all > > > those > > > > > who > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > not familiar with this can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also put a few incindets from your Life, marriage date > (If > > > You > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > married, childrens birth date,) date of employment etc. > > > whatever > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > incidents you remember, limiting it to 5 , so that the > > mail > > > does > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > too long . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > > " swarup1068 " > > > > > > > > > <swarup1068@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will u pl clarify, if horoscope of any native shows > the > > > lagna > > > > > > degree > > > > > > > > > of 00:01, what lagna should be taken for prediction > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand jain ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls remov ur phone Numbr along with posts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds Team grp managemnt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer > > > Internet > > > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo > > rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like > you. > > > Check > > > > > > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji, this is a good analysis.You may not want/like/require but still this is what astrology wants!! regards, gopi. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > // I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on the birth details of> your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his various books. //> > Apart from whatever you are expected to prove, you must also let the> members know, how did you get the data of his kids, and how did you> analyse the kids charts to get the fathers Lagna. We all would like to> learn this great feat from your analysis.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > , "Vijay Goel"> goyalvj@ wrote:> >> > Dear Anand ji Jain,> >> > I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on the birth details of> your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his various books.> >> > Now in your horoscope the antar of moon is running.> >> > Vimsottari Dasa:> >> > Moon MD: 2008-11-17 - 2018-11-17> >> > Antardasas in this MD:> >> > Moon: 2008-11-17 - 2009-09-17> > Mars: 2009-09-17 - 2010-04-18> >> > But i don't find Moon antar dasa appropriate for selling of property,> this antar will not fetch you a good buyer instead it will create lot of> frustration. I think Mars antar dasa starting from 17th sep 09 to 18th> april 10 will be more beneficial.> >> > The reasons was very simple and needs no explanation.> >> > Thankyou,> > Regards,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur.> >> >> >> > , Anand Jain> swarup1068@ wrote:> > >> > > Respected Bhaskar Ji,> > >> > > Of course, you are not even 100% absolutely right it is 1000%> correct as there is no other way to create the liquidity.> > >> > > Myself behind on the matter from last one year but could not get> appropriate buyer.> > >> > > With best of my regards> > >> > > Anand Jain> > >> > > I will call u tomorrow over phone, u may give me a miss call> whenever u hv free time.> > >> > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > Re: what lagna should be taken> for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree> > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:31 AM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Anand ji,> > >> > > Please confirm whether this liquidity you are looking for, is due> from> > > sale of property or not ? Or any other source. This is to confirm> > > whether my observations are right or not.> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Anand ji,> > > >> > > > If its from sale of property, then yes you have a good chances.> > > >> > > > I normally charge a good amount for Birth rectification from my> > > > clients. You have already saved that.> > > >> > > > You will appreciate that astrologers who can do Birth> rectification> > > > properly in india, can be counted on fingers, but apart from me> none> > > of> > > > these will give you explanations for this, as I have done, and> always> > > do> > > > on these Groups so that others can learn.> > > >> > > > Any further queries can be addressed to me on a professional vein> .> > > You> > > > will appreciate that Astrology being my profession and having a> family> > > > to look after, my duties lie towards professionalism too.> > > >> > > > thanks and regards,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anand Jain> > > > swarup1068@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Respected Bhaskarji,> > > > >> > > > > I have no words for thanks as you have devoted valueable time.> > > > >> > > > > Sir, If U don't mind and hv some time for me, is there any clue> for> > > > betterment for me or expecting any huge liquidity before> 18.7.2009.> > > > >> > > > > Regards/Anand jain> > > > >> > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna should be> taken> > > for> > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 8:09 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Anand Jain ji,> > > > >> > > > > I took up Your case for judgement at 9th Jul 2009 , that was> > > yesterday> > > > at Bombay in evening at 18.21.08> > > > >> > > > > Now what is the Ruling Planets Theory.> > > > > Whenever an astrologer sincerely wishes to confirm some data> > > available> > > > before him, and does not have any further inputs, then the Divine> > > > Configurations of the stars in the sky come to his rescue.> > > > >> > > > > What is to be done here.> > > > > One must note at time of judgement what is the prevailing Lagna> > > Lord,> > > > Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day Lord. This is known> as> > > > LSRD.> > > > > At time of judgement taken by me, the Lagna was Sagittarius,> Moon> > > Star> > > > was Uttarasadha, Moon Raashi was Capricorn, and the Day was> Wednesday.> > > > >> > > > > So taking all the Lords of these points we have the LSRD as> Jupiter,> > > > The Sun, Saturn and Mercury. There is a rule that if Rahu or Ketu> > > > occupies the raashi iof any of these Lords, then one must change> the> > > > Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently occupying Capricorn owned by> > > > Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of Saturn.> > > > >> > > > > Now the New LSRD is Jupiter, The Sun, Rahu and Mercury.> > > > >> > > > > How does one check whether the Lagna arrived at the recorded> Birth> > > > time is correct ?> > > > >> > > > > If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra Lord and the Sub Lord> > > > planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that the recorded time> is> > > > correct.> > > > >> > > > > With your given birth time of 19.30 at Delhi Birth, on 14th> October> > > > 1960 the Lagna arrived at was Taurus 00.04.43 using KP Ayanamsha> and> > > the> > > > Nakshatra Lord was The Sun and the Sub Lord was Rahu.> > > > >> > > > > Since we have Sun and Rahu both in our LSRD at time of judgement> in> > > > Bombay we accept that the Birth time is correct. (Though whether> to> > > take> > > > Aries or Taurus Lagna was still not solved, at least I knew from> above> > > > xcersise, that your time of Birth was nearly right and not many> > > minutes> > > > apart).> > > > >> > > > > But I faced 2 more problems which made me study further -> > > > >> > > > > 1st problem - Using Taurus Lagna when I tried to match the> events of> > > > your Life. Nothing matched.> > > > >> > > > > 2nd problem - When the events did not match. I was in a> quandary. I> > > > checked the minute divisions of the degrees and realised that from> > > > 29.13.20 degrees of Aries uptil 01.13.20 degrees of Taurus, the> > > > Nakshatra Lord and the SubLord would remain same. In simple> language> > > > this means that you could have born about 3 minutes before close> of> > > > Mesha Lagna and 3 minutes after close of Mesha Lagna, yet Star> lord> > > and> > > > Sub lord would still remain same.> > > > >> > > > > I made one more additional Horary chart to recheck this (This is> a> > > > advanced technique . Cannot write here because many will not> > > understand> > > > and to make one understand I will have to write another page and> > > > everyone will get confused with so much at a time) and found Mars> was> > > > figuring in the prominent planets. This gave me a clue and went> ahead> > > > and fixed the Birth time as 19.29.30 without meddling too much> with> > > the> > > > recorded time.> > > > >> > > > > Now the Lagna arrived at is,Aries 29.56.02 Star Lord and Sub> Lord> > > > remain same as in previous birth time of 19.30.00 IST> > > > >> > > > > Now to match the events -> > > > >> > > > > 1) Marriage on 23.11.85 Venus-Venus . Venus signifies the houses> 2> > > > and 7 required to be activated primarily for marriage. If You have> a> > > > software which shows the significators, then note that Venus is> the> > > only> > > > planet among the 9 Planets in your chart, which shows the SubLord> > > again> > > > as Venus signifying, 2,7 and 9.> > > > >> > > > > 2) First daughter 16.12.1986 Venus - Sun. The Sun signifies the> 5th> > > > house.> > > > >> > > > > 3) Second daughter 21.09.1988 Venus-Moon-Sun. mars about to> enter on> > > > 3rd October 1988. Both Sun and Mars signify the 5th house.> > > > >> > > > > 4) Father expired on 10.8.1990 Rahu amongst other houses> signifies> > > the> > > > 8th and 9th house too.> > > > >> > > > > You will not get the above matching by Taurus Lagna at all, by> > > > whatever stretch.> > > > >> > > > > Hope my time spent is of use to You.> > > > >> > > > > best wishes,> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Anand Jain,> > > > > >> > > > > > I have already done some work on this. But before we move> further> > > > could> > > > > > you pl. call me on my cell number 9323522663, so that I could> > > spend> > > > some> > > > > > time on same.> > > > > >> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anand Jain> > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > What a wonderful manner, as u r explaining to us.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Birth details:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 14.10.1960 19.30 Delhi> > > > > > >> > > > > > > married on 23.11.85> > > > > > >> > > > > > > first daughter 16.12.1986> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 2nd daughter 21.9.1988> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Father expired 10.8.1990> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Detained by Custom officials on 29.12.1990 and case> finalised on> > > > > > 19.4.2000> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards/Anand Jain> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna should> be> > > > taken for> > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > Wednesday, 8 July, 2009, 6:19 AM> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Friend,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > If You are using KP ayanamsha then it will the same Lagna.> If> > > you> > > > are> > > > > > > using Lahiris or Ramans then there may be a doubt of the> Lagna.> > > > (This> > > > > > is> > > > > > > presuming that your time of Birth is accurate).> > > > > > >> > > > > > > But before that there is a process known as Ruling Planets> > > theory> > > > > > which> > > > > > > will help you guide to the right Lagna. If You put the birth> > > > details> > > > > > > here, I will make a Live example of this process so all> those> > > who> > > > are> > > > > > > not familiar with this can learn.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Also put a few incindets from your Life, marriage date (If> You> > > are> > > > > > > married, childrens birth date,) date of employment etc.> whatever> > > > major> > > > > > > incidents you remember, limiting it to 5 , so that the mail> does> > > > not> > > > > > go> > > > > > > too long .> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> "swarup1068"> > > > > > > <swarup1068@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Will u pl clarify, if horoscope of any native shows the> lagna> > > > degree> > > > > > > of 00:01, what lagna should be taken for prediction> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Anand jain> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Anand jain ji> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > pls remov ur phone Numbr along with posts> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > rgrds Team grp managemnt> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer> Internet> > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you.> Check> > > > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. /> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet> Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Dear Vijay Goel ji,Quoting Neelam ji, //You have referred to KNRs methods, which many of us here would be familiar with and the rest would like to learn. //I belong to the highlighted sector...hence awaiting anxiously to grasp something new.Hope you will oblige.....thanks.blessings,Renu , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Vijay Goel ji,> > Kindly explain the basis of your judgment. I think the demand is justified.> There are various methods of BT correction, they might give different> results. Even the same method may give difference of outcome in different> hands. But the method should be clear and understandable. You have referred> to KNRs methods, which many of us here would be familiar with and the rest> would like to learn.> > We hope you'll soon substantiate your statements.> > Regards> Neelam> > > > 2009/7/10 Souvik Dutta explore_vulcan > >> >> > Dear Friends,> >> > I have had differences with Bhaskar-ji in the past and may even have so in> > the future but I completely agree with Bhaskar-ji here.> >> > We are an open group, so if someone wants to refute the Ruling Planet> > theory and the birth time correction method detailed by Bhaskar-ji> > (brilliantly I must add), I would really love to learn his/her method.> >> > I am very detached on cyber-groups so please do not take this mail> > personally.> >> > Knowledge is the only thing that matters to me, nothing else.> >> > Regards> >> > Souvik> >> >> > <%40>,> > "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Friends,> > > This is not a normal Group like J.Ganga or J.Remedies where one picks up> > > Queries and keeps answering them. This is a serious astrology group> > > which I consider exclusive and enjoy being present in, due to free> > > speech allowed, democratic set up and incessant flow of knowledge> > > flowing around with great intelligent members. At such times, when a> > > member writes enquiring about his Lagna which is at border, and we> > > answer him with a detailed logical analysis, and then some other> > > astrologer(?) comes in suddenly at the end time of the thread and talks> > > contrary to what has been concluded, then it is a normal protocol,> > > unwritten, but well understood in an assembly of intelligent members,> > > that he is supposed to support his contradictory claims with logical> > > analysis given in counter argument. One cannot say that "I think the> > > Lagna will be this ", "I feel the next antardasha will be beneficial",> > > "This is too simple to explain". It is unacceptable . I request that> > > the members take note of this, and call for an analysis from this> > > member, when I have already presented my side with supported analysis,> > > and so has another member with his Lagna Sphuta mail. But in this> > > case this member only " thinks" but has nothing to present in support of> > > his thinking. Shri KN Rao Sahab's name has been taken to support and> > > give some credence to his thinking, but no palpable logic alongside is> > > given. This is outright ridiculous. regards, Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > > <%40>,> > "Bhaskar"> > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > We would like to hear your explanations on why the Lagna must be taken> > > > as Vrishabha only and not as Mesha.> > > >> > > > What appears simple to you, may not be as simple actually. Please> > > > explain us why you think the way you do.> > > >> > > > I heard from someone that you are a astrologer or at least claim to> > > say> > > > so. I also heard that you have a website offering services for same. I> > > > may be wrong. Then you may correct me. I would like to see the> > > astrology> > > > part coming from you, rather than surmises and thoughts or what you> > > > think.> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > <%40>,> > "Bhaskar"> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Vijay Goelji,> > > > >> > > > > Shri KN Rao ji has written much. Which of his teachings impies that> > > > the> > > > > Lagna is Vrishabha and not Mesha.> > > > >> > > > > Why will Moon antardasha not appropriate for selling property ? The> > > > > reasons - Astrological? Why dpo you think that the Mars dasha would> > > be> > > > > more beneficial ? The reasons ? - Astrological ?> > > > >> > > > > Why are the reasons very simple and need no explanations. I cannot> > > > > understand this simplicity. Can You explain ?> > > > >> > > > > And where were you when all this was discussed uptil now. You come> > > > back,> > > > > when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from some> > > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now ? This> > > is> > > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, so that> > > > > people think that "I am pushing the elephant as well as the logs".> > > > >> > > > > Mars antar is going to be a very malefic period for him . What> > > rubbish> > > > > are you talking that it will be beneficial. Do you know even the> > > > basics> > > > > of astrology ?> > > > >> > > > > After the story of Ramayana has been heard by people, You are now> > > > > talking " I will tell you who is Ram and Sita".> > > > >> > > > > Please explain us what is simple which needs no explanation ?> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > <%40>,> > "Vijay Goel"> > > > > goyalvj@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Anand ji Jain,> > > > > >> > > > > > I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on the birth details> > > of> > > > > your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his various books.> > > > > >> > > > > > Now in your horoscope the antar of moon is running.> > > > > >> > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa:> > > > > >> > > > > > Moon MD: 2008-11-17 - 2018-11-17> > > > > >> > > > > > Antardasas in this MD:> > > > > >> > > > > > Moon: 2008-11-17 - 2009-09-17> > > > > > Mars: 2009-09-17 - 2010-04-18> > > > > >> > > > > > But i don't find Moon antar dasa appropriate for selling of> > > > property,> > > > > this antar will not fetch you a good buyer instead it will create> > > lot> > > > of> > > > > frustration. I think Mars antar dasa starting from 17th sep 09 to> > > 18th> > > > > april 10 will be more beneficial.> > > > > >> > > > > > The reasons was very simple and needs no explanation.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thankyou,> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > <%40>,> > Anand Jain> > > > > swarup1068@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Of course, you are not even 100% absolutely right it is 1000%> > > > > correct as there is no other way to create the liquidity.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Myself behind on the matter from last one year but could not get> > > > > appropriate buyer.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > With best of my regards> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Anand Jain> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I will call u tomorrow over phone, u may give me a miss call> > > > > whenever u hv free time.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > > Re: what lagna should be> > > taken> > > > > for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree> > > > > > > <%40>> > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:31 AM> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Anand ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Please confirm whether this liquidity you are looking for, is> > > due> > > > > from> > > > > > > sale of property or not ? Or any other source. This is to> > > confirm> > > > > > > whether my observations are right or not.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > If its from sale of property, then yes you have a good> > > chances.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I normally charge a good amount for Birth rectification from> > > my> > > > > > > > clients. You have already saved that.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > You will appreciate that astrologers who can do Birth> > > > > rectification> > > > > > > > properly in india, can be counted on fingers, but apart from> > > me> > > > > none> > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > these will give you explanations for this, as I have done, and> > > > > always> > > > > > > do> > > > > > > > on these Groups so that others can learn.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Any further queries can be addressed to me on a professional> > > > vein> > > > > .> > > > > > > You> > > > > > > > will appreciate that Astrology being my profession and having> > > a> > > > > family> > > > > > > > to look after, my duties lie towards professionalism too.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > thanks and regards,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anand Jain> > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I have no words for thanks as you have devoted valueable> > > time.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Sir, If U don't mind and hv some time for me, is there any> > > > clue> > > > > for> > > > > > > > betterment for me or expecting any huge liquidity before> > > > > 18.7.2009.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand jain> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna should> > > be> > > > > taken> > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 8:09 AM> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain ji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I took up Your case for judgement at 9th Jul 2009 , that was> > > > > > > yesterday> > > > > > > > at Bombay in evening at 18.21.08> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Now what is the Ruling Planets Theory.> > > > > > > > > Whenever an astrologer sincerely wishes to confirm some data> > > > > > > available> > > > > > > > before him, and does not have any further inputs, then the> > > > Divine> > > > > > > > Configurations of the stars in the sky come to his rescue.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > What is to be done here.> > > > > > > > > One must note at time of judgement what is the prevailing> > > > Lagna> > > > > > > Lord,> > > > > > > > Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day Lord. This is> > > known> > > > > as> > > > > > > > LSRD.> > > > > > > > > At time of judgement taken by me, the Lagna was Sagittarius,> > > > > Moon> > > > > > > Star> > > > > > > > was Uttarasadha, Moon Raashi was Capricorn, and the Day was> > > > > Wednesday.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > So taking all the Lords of these points we have the LSRD as> > > > > Jupiter,> > > > > > > > The Sun, Saturn and Mercury. There is a rule that if Rahu or> > > > Ketu> > > > > > > > occupies the raashi iof any of these Lords, then one must> > > change> > > > > the> > > > > > > > Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently occupying Capricorn owned> > > > by> > > > > > > > Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of Saturn.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Now the New LSRD is Jupiter, The Sun, Rahu and Mercury.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > How does one check whether the Lagna arrived at the recorded> > > > > Birth> > > > > > > > time is correct ?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra Lord and the Sub> > > > Lord> > > > > > > > planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that the recorded> > > time> > > > > is> > > > > > > > correct.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > With your given birth time of 19.30 at Delhi Birth, on 14th> > > > > October> > > > > > > > 1960 the Lagna arrived at was Taurus 00.04.43 using KP> > > Ayanamsha> > > > > and> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord was The Sun and the Sub Lord was Rahu.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Since we have Sun and Rahu both in our LSRD at time of> > > > judgement> > > > > in> > > > > > > > Bombay we accept that the Birth time is correct. (Though> > > whether> > > > > to> > > > > > > take> > > > > > > > Aries or Taurus Lagna was still not solved, at least I knew> > > from> > > > > above> > > > > > > > xcersise, that your time of Birth was nearly right and not> > > many> > > > > > > minutes> > > > > > > > apart).> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > But I faced 2 more problems which made me study further -> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1st problem - Using Taurus Lagna when I tried to match the> > > > > events of> > > > > > > > your Life. Nothing matched.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 2nd problem - When the events did not match. I was in a> > > > > quandary. I> > > > > > > > checked the minute divisions of the degrees and realised that> > > > from> > > > > > > > 29.13.20 degrees of Aries uptil 01.13.20 degrees of Taurus,> > > the> > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord and the SubLord would remain same. In simple> > > > > language> > > > > > > > this means that you could have born about 3 minutes before> > > close> > > > > of> > > > > > > > Mesha Lagna and 3 minutes after close of Mesha Lagna, yet Star> > > > > lord> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > Sub lord would still remain same.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I made one more additional Horary chart to recheck this> > > (This> > > > is> > > > > a> > > > > > > > advanced technique . Cannot write here because many will not> > > > > > > understand> > > > > > > > and to make one understand I will have to write another page> > > and> > > > > > > > everyone will get confused with so much at a time) and found> > > > Mars> > > > > was> > > > > > > > figuring in the prominent planets. This gave me a clue and> > > went> > > > > ahead> > > > > > > > and fixed the Birth time as 19.29.30 without meddling too much> > > > > with> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > recorded time.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna arrived at is,Aries 29.56.02 Star Lord and Sub> > > > > Lord> > > > > > > > remain same as in previous birth time of 19.30.00 IST> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Now to match the events -> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage on 23.11.85 Venus-Venus . Venus signifies the> > > > houses> > > > > 2> > > > > > > > and 7 required to be activated primarily for marriage. If You> > > > have> > > > > a> > > > > > > > software which shows the significators, then note that Venus> > > is> > > > > the> > > > > > > only> > > > > > > > planet among the 9 Planets in your chart, which shows the> > > > SubLord> > > > > > > again> > > > > > > > as Venus signifying, 2,7 and 9.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 2) First daughter 16.12.1986 Venus - Sun. The Sun signifies> > > > the> > > > > 5th> > > > > > > > house.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 3) Second daughter 21.09.1988 Venus-Moon-Sun. mars about to> > > > > enter on> > > > > > > > 3rd October 1988. Both Sun and Mars signify the 5th house.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 4) Father expired on 10.8.1990 Rahu amongst other houses> > > > > signifies> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > 8th and 9th house too.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > You will not get the above matching by Taurus Lagna at all,> > > by> > > > > > > > whatever stretch.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Hope my time spent is of use to You.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I have already done some work on this. But before we move> > > > > further> > > > > > > > could> > > > > > > > > > you pl. call me on my cell number 9323522663, so that I> > > > could> > > > > > > spend> > > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > > > time on same.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anand> > > > Jain> > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful manner, as u r explaining to us.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Birth details:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 14.10.1960 19.30 Delhi> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > married on 23.11.85> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > first daughter 16.12.1986> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 2nd daughter 21.9.1988> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Father expired 10.8.1990> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Detained by Custom officials on 29.12.1990 and case> > > > > finalised on> > > > > > > > > > 19.4.2000> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand Jain> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna> > > should> > > > > be> > > > > > > > taken for> > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 8 July, 2009, 6:19 AM> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > If You are using KP ayanamsha then it will the same> > > Lagna.> > > > > If> > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > are> > > > > > > > > > > using Lahiris or Ramans then there may be a doubt of the> > > > > Lagna.> > > > > > > > (This> > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > presuming that your time of Birth is accurate).> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > But before that there is a process known as Ruling> > > Planets> > > > > > > theory> > > > > > > > > > which> > > > > > > > > > > will help you guide to the right Lagna. If You put the> > > > birth> > > > > > > > details> > > > > > > > > > > here, I will make a Live example of this process so all> > > > > those> > > > > > > who> > > > > > > > are> > > > > > > > > > > not familiar with this can learn.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Also put a few incindets from your Life, marriage date> > > (If> > > > > You> > > > > > > are> > > > > > > > > > > married, childrens birth date,) date of employment etc.> > > > > whatever> > > > > > > > major> > > > > > > > > > > incidents you remember, limiting it to 5 , so that the> > > > mail> > > > > does> > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > go> > > > > > > > > > > too long .> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > > > "swarup1068"> > > > > > > > > > > <swarup1068@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Will u pl clarify, if horoscope of any native shows> > > the> > > > > lagna> > > > > > > > degree> > > > > > > > > > > of 00:01, what lagna should be taken for prediction> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Anand jain> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand jain ji> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > pls remov ur phone Numbr along with posts> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds Team grp managemnt> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer> > > > > Internet> > > > > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo> > > > rer/> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like> > > you.> > > > > Check> > > > > > > > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. /> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet> > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Dear friends, He has nothing to offer. These fake astrologers are like those entrants in good parks who try to release their overfull bladders of impure water and think that nobody is watching. Let him dissaprove of my above statements by a solid astrological analaysis which I am waiting for, and yearning for. Idiots are those those who just proclaim, pass judgements, give statements, just write for the heck of it, to show that they are too smart, but with nothing in their kitties, no stuff worthful with which they can talk, except a BIG MOUTH, which cannot stop speaking. Bhaskar has always talken straight, to enemies or to freinds, with no malice in the heart, with no evil intentions, with no jealousy ever, with no pride ever, with no superiority complex ever, but whatever he speaks, he has some solid base and ground, which anybody can talk, discuss and argument with him. I loose or win, these things dont matter to me, for I am already a rude and bad mouthed person in image of many members, so never look for or try to change such images, for these are all temporary in my najar, for me what matters is, after all this, knowledge should come out, I should learn, the rest of the viewers should learn. Tarka and Kutarka ka maja hai koi dene wala toh I await such people with pleasure. But this idiot has no knowledge of studies to do tarka or kutarka, but just enjoys refuting somebody without any base. This I cannot tolerate. he has already done this twice or thrice with me in the past and always backed out. Today he is doing the same. I challenge him to prove me wrong with his logic in astrology. He can take help of the bloody CEO Moderator of JR who must have already contacted him by now to butter him, as he always does to those who oppose Bhaskar and refute his writings. But I dare both of them to face Bhaskar together in Astrology field, or otherwise. I challenge Vijay Goel to prove that the Taurus Lagna is right for this native, and the Mars antardasha is beneficial for him, and I also demand him to show us the analysis as to how he could determine the Lagna of the Father from the kids Janampatri. I believe he is from Jaipur. Once when I had posted in the Jyotish Ganga Forum which I own, that I am coming to Jaipur for so n so days, and anybody who wishes can take an appointment from me , immediately after my posting, this idiot posted his mail with his website informing those same members of the Group that he too is available in Jaipur. Yeh akkal hai is gadhe ki. This is his ethics and way of dealing. He has got no norms on which to live with. How can such astrologers call themselves as astrologers and play fool with peoples lives ? I cant understand this. Why is there no rule to give such fake astrologers a strict punishment so that they dont play with peoples lives with no knowledge about astrology ? Bhaskar. , "renunw" <renunw wrote:>> Dear Vijay Goel ji,> > Quoting Neelam ji,> > //You have referred to KNRs methods, which many of us here would be> familiar with and the rest would like to learn. //> > I belong to the highlighted sector...hence awaiting anxiously to grasp> something new.> > Hope you will oblige.....thanks.> > blessings,> > Renu> > > > > > > > > , neelam gupta> neelamgupta07@ wrote:> >> > Dear Vijay Goel ji,> >> > Kindly explain the basis of your judgment. I think the demand is> justified.> > There are various methods of BT correction, they might give different> > results. Even the same method may give difference of outcome in> different> > hands. But the method should be clear and understandable. You have> referred> > to KNRs methods, which many of us here would be familiar with and the> rest> > would like to learn.> >> > We hope you'll soon substantiate your statements.> >> > Regards> > Neelam> >> >> >> > 2009/7/10 Souvik Dutta explore_vulcan@> >> > >> > >> > > Dear Friends,> > >> > > I have had differences with Bhaskar-ji in the past and may even have> so in> > > the future but I completely agree with Bhaskar-ji here.> > >> > > We are an open group, so if someone wants to refute the Ruling> Planet> > > theory and the birth time correction method detailed by Bhaskar-ji> > > (brilliantly I must add), I would really love to learn his/her> method.> > >> > > I am very detached on cyber-groups so please do not take this mail> > > personally.> > >> > > Knowledge is the only thing that matters to me, nothing else.> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Souvik> > >> > >> > > --- In> <%40yaho\> ogroups.com>,> > > "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Friends,> > > > This is not a normal Group like J.Ganga or J.Remedies where one> picks up> > > > Queries and keeps answering them. This is a serious astrology> group> > > > which I consider exclusive and enjoy being present in, due to free> > > > speech allowed, democratic set up and incessant flow of knowledge> > > > flowing around with great intelligent members. At such times, when> a> > > > member writes enquiring about his Lagna which is at border, and we> > > > answer him with a detailed logical analysis, and then some other> > > > astrologer(?) comes in suddenly at the end time of the thread and> talks> > > > contrary to what has been concluded, then it is a normal protocol,> > > > unwritten, but well understood in an assembly of intelligent> members,> > > > that he is supposed to support his contradictory claims with> logical> > > > analysis given in counter argument. One cannot say that "I think> the> > > > Lagna will be this ", "I feel the next antardasha will be> beneficial",> > > > "This is too simple to explain". It is unacceptable . I request> that> > > > the members take note of this, and call for an analysis from this> > > > member, when I have already presented my side with supported> analysis,> > > > and so has another member with his Lagna Sphuta mail. But in this> > > > case this member only " thinks" but has nothing to present in> support of> > > > his thinking. Shri KN Rao Sahab's name has been taken to support> and> > > > give some credence to his thinking, but no palpable logic> alongside is> > > > given. This is outright ridiculous. regards, Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > --- In> <%40yaho\> ogroups.com>,> > > "Bhaskar"> > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > We would like to hear your explanations on why the Lagna must be> taken> > > > > as Vrishabha only and not as Mesha.> > > > >> > > > > What appears simple to you, may not be as simple actually.> Please> > > > > explain us why you think the way you do.> > > > >> > > > > I heard from someone that you are a astrologer or at least claim> to> > > > say> > > > > so. I also heard that you have a website offering services for> same. I> > > > > may be wrong. Then you may correct me. I would like to see the> > > > astrology> > > > > part coming from you, rather than surmises and thoughts or what> you> > > > > think.> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --- In> <%40yaho\> ogroups.com>,> > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Vijay Goelji,> > > > > >> > > > > > Shri KN Rao ji has written much. Which of his teachings impies> that> > > > > the> > > > > > Lagna is Vrishabha and not Mesha.> > > > > >> > > > > > Why will Moon antardasha not appropriate for selling property> ? The> > > > > > reasons - Astrological? Why dpo you think that the Mars dasha> would> > > > be> > > > > > more beneficial ? The reasons ? - Astrological ?> > > > > >> > > > > > Why are the reasons very simple and need no explanations. I> cannot> > > > > > understand this simplicity. Can You explain ?> > > > > >> > > > > > And where were you when all this was discussed uptil now. You> come> > > > > back,> > > > > > when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from> some> > > > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now ?> This> > > > is> > > > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, so> that> > > > > > people think that "I am pushing the elephant as well as the> logs".> > > > > >> > > > > > Mars antar is going to be a very malefic period for him . What> > > > rubbish> > > > > > are you talking that it will be beneficial. Do you know even> the> > > > > basics> > > > > > of astrology ?> > > > > >> > > > > > After the story of Ramayana has been heard by people, You are> now> > > > > > talking " I will tell you who is Ram and Sita".> > > > > >> > > > > > Please explain us what is simple which needs no explanation ?> > > > > >> > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --- In> <%40yaho\> ogroups.com>,> > > "Vijay Goel"> > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Anand ji Jain,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on the birth> details> > > > of> > > > > > your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his various books.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Now in your horoscope the antar of moon is running.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Moon MD: 2008-11-17 - 2018-11-17> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Antardasas in this MD:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Moon: 2008-11-17 - 2009-09-17> > > > > > > Mars: 2009-09-17 - 2010-04-18> > > > > > >> > > > > > > But i don't find Moon antar dasa appropriate for selling of> > > > > property,> > > > > > this antar will not fetch you a good buyer instead it will> create> > > > lot> > > > > of> > > > > > frustration. I think Mars antar dasa starting from 17th sep 09> to> > > > 18th> > > > > > april 10 will be more beneficial.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The reasons was very simple and needs no explanation.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thankyou,> > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- In> <%40yaho\> ogroups.com>,> > > Anand Jain> > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Of course, you are not even 100% absolutely right it is> 1000%> > > > > > correct as there is no other way to create the liquidity.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Myself behind on the matter from last one year but could> not get> > > > > > appropriate buyer.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > With best of my regards> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Anand Jain> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I will call u tomorrow over phone, u may give me a miss> call> > > > > > whenever u hv free time.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > > > Re: what lagna should> be> > > > taken> > > > > > for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree> > > > > > > > To:> <%40yaho\> ogroups.com>> > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:31 AM> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Anand ji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Please confirm whether this liquidity you are looking for,> is> > > > due> > > > > > from> > > > > > > > sale of property or not ? Or any other source. This is to> > > > confirm> > > > > > > > whether my observations are right or not.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > If its from sale of property, then yes you have a good> > > > chances.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I normally charge a good amount for Birth rectification> from> > > > my> > > > > > > > > clients. You have already saved that.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > You will appreciate that astrologers who can do Birth> > > > > > rectification> > > > > > > > > properly in india, can be counted on fingers, but apart> from> > > > me> > > > > > none> > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > these will give you explanations for this, as I have> done, and> > > > > > always> > > > > > > > do> > > > > > > > > on these Groups so that others can learn.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Any further queries can be addressed to me on a> professional> > > > > vein> > > > > > .> > > > > > > > You> > > > > > > > > will appreciate that Astrology being my profession and> having> > > > a> > > > > > family> > > > > > > > > to look after, my duties lie towards professionalism> too.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > thanks and regards,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> Anand Jain> > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I have no words for thanks as you have devoted> valueable> > > > time.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Sir, If U don't mind and hv some time for me, is there> any> > > > > clue> > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > betterment for me or expecting any huge liquidity before> > > > > > 18.7.2009.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand jain> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna> should> > > > be> > > > > > taken> > > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 8:09 AM> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain ji,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I took up Your case for judgement at 9th Jul 2009 ,> that was> > > > > > > > yesterday> > > > > > > > > at Bombay in evening at 18.21.08> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Now what is the Ruling Planets Theory.> > > > > > > > > > Whenever an astrologer sincerely wishes to confirm> some data> > > > > > > > available> > > > > > > > > before him, and does not have any further inputs, then> the> > > > > Divine> > > > > > > > > Configurations of the stars in the sky come to his> rescue.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > What is to be done here.> > > > > > > > > > One must note at time of judgement what is the> prevailing> > > > > Lagna> > > > > > > > Lord,> > > > > > > > > Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day Lord. This> is> > > > known> > > > > > as> > > > > > > > > LSRD.> > > > > > > > > > At time of judgement taken by me, the Lagna was> Sagittarius,> > > > > > Moon> > > > > > > > Star> > > > > > > > > was Uttarasadha, Moon Raashi was Capricorn, and the Day> was> > > > > > Wednesday.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > So taking all the Lords of these points we have the> LSRD as> > > > > > Jupiter,> > > > > > > > > The Sun, Saturn and Mercury. There is a rule that if> Rahu or> > > > > Ketu> > > > > > > > > occupies the raashi iof any of these Lords, then one> must> > > > change> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently occupying Capricorn> owned> > > > > by> > > > > > > > > Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of Saturn.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Now the New LSRD is Jupiter, The Sun, Rahu and> Mercury.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > How does one check whether the Lagna arrived at the> recorded> > > > > > Birth> > > > > > > > > time is correct ?> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra Lord and> the Sub> > > > > Lord> > > > > > > > > planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that the> recorded> > > > time> > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > correct.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > With your given birth time of 19.30 at Delhi Birth, on> 14th> > > > > > October> > > > > > > > > 1960 the Lagna arrived at was Taurus 00.04.43 using KP> > > > Ayanamsha> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord was The Sun and the Sub Lord was Rahu.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Since we have Sun and Rahu both in our LSRD at time of> > > > > judgement> > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > Bombay we accept that the Birth time is correct. (Though> > > > whether> > > > > > to> > > > > > > > take> > > > > > > > > Aries or Taurus Lagna was still not solved, at least I> knew> > > > from> > > > > > above> > > > > > > > > xcersise, that your time of Birth was nearly right and> not> > > > many> > > > > > > > minutes> > > > > > > > > apart).> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > But I faced 2 more problems which made me study> further -> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 1st problem - Using Taurus Lagna when I tried to match> the> > > > > > events of> > > > > > > > > your Life. Nothing matched.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 2nd problem - When the events did not match. I was in> a> > > > > > quandary. I> > > > > > > > > checked the minute divisions of the degrees and realised> that> > > > > from> > > > > > > > > 29.13.20 degrees of Aries uptil 01.13.20 degrees of> Taurus,> > > > the> > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord and the SubLord would remain same. In> simple> > > > > > language> > > > > > > > > this means that you could have born about 3 minutes> before> > > > close> > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > Mesha Lagna and 3 minutes after close of Mesha Lagna,> yet Star> > > > > > lord> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > Sub lord would still remain same.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I made one more additional Horary chart to recheck> this> > > > (This> > > > > is> > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > advanced technique . Cannot write here because many will> not> > > > > > > > understand> > > > > > > > > and to make one understand I will have to write another> page> > > > and> > > > > > > > > everyone will get confused with so much at a time) and> found> > > > > Mars> > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > figuring in the prominent planets. This gave me a clue> and> > > > went> > > > > > ahead> > > > > > > > > and fixed the Birth time as 19.29.30 without meddling> too much> > > > > > with> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > recorded time.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna arrived at is,Aries 29.56.02 Star Lord> and Sub> > > > > > Lord> > > > > > > > > remain same as in previous birth time of 19.30.00 IST> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Now to match the events -> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage on 23.11.85 Venus-Venus . Venus signifies> the> > > > > houses> > > > > > 2> > > > > > > > > and 7 required to be activated primarily for marriage.> If You> > > > > have> > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > software which shows the significators, then note that> Venus> > > > is> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > only> > > > > > > > > planet among the 9 Planets in your chart, which shows> the> > > > > SubLord> > > > > > > > again> > > > > > > > > as Venus signifying, 2,7 and 9.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 2) First daughter 16.12.1986 Venus - Sun. The Sun> signifies> > > > > the> > > > > > 5th> > > > > > > > > house.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 3) Second daughter 21.09.1988 Venus-Moon-Sun. mars> about to> > > > > > enter on> > > > > > > > > 3rd October 1988. Both Sun and Mars signify the 5th> house.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 4) Father expired on 10.8.1990 Rahu amongst other> houses> > > > > > signifies> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > 8th and 9th house too.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > You will not get the above matching by Taurus Lagna at> all,> > > > by> > > > > > > > > whatever stretch.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Hope my time spent is of use to You.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I have already done some work on this. But before we> move> > > > > > further> > > > > > > > > could> > > > > > > > > > > you pl. call me on my cell number 9323522663, so> that I> > > > > could> > > > > > > > spend> > > > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > > > > time on same.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> Anand> > > > > Jain> > > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful manner, as u r explaining to us.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > 14.10.1960 19.30 Delhi> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > married on 23.11.85> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > first daughter 16.12.1986> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd daughter 21.9.1988> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Father expired 10.8.1990> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Detained by Custom officials on 29.12.1990 and> case> > > > > > finalised on> > > > > > > > > > > 19.4.2000> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand Jain> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what> lagna> > > > should> > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > taken for> > > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 8 July, 2009, 6:19 AM> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > If You are using KP ayanamsha then it will the> same> > > > Lagna.> > > > > > If> > > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > are> > > > > > > > > > > > using Lahiris or Ramans then there may be a doubt> of the> > > > > > Lagna.> > > > > > > > > (This> > > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > presuming that your time of Birth is accurate).> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > But before that there is a process known as Ruling> > > > Planets> > > > > > > > theory> > > > > > > > > > > which> > > > > > > > > > > > will help you guide to the right Lagna. If You put> the> > > > > birth> > > > > > > > > details> > > > > > > > > > > > here, I will make a Live example of this process> so all> > > > > > those> > > > > > > > who> > > > > > > > > are> > > > > > > > > > > > not familiar with this can learn.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Also put a few incindets from your Life, marriage> date> > > > (If> > > > > > You> > > > > > > > are> > > > > > > > > > > > married, childrens birth date,) date of employment> etc.> > > > > > whatever> > > > > > > > > major> > > > > > > > > > > > incidents you remember, limiting it to 5 , so that> the> > > > > mail> > > > > > does> > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > go> > > > > > > > > > > > too long .> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .> com,> > > > > > "swarup1068"> > > > > > > > > > > > <swarup1068@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Will u pl clarify, if horoscope of any native> shows> > > > the> > > > > > lagna> > > > > > > > > degree> > > > > > > > > > > > of 00:01, what lagna should be taken for> prediction> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand jain> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand jain ji> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > pls remov ur phone Numbr along with posts> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds Team grp managemnt> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and> safer> > > > > > Internet> > > > > > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads. /> in/internetexplo> > > > > rer/> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people> like> > > > you.> > > > > > Check> > > > > > > > > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. /> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer> Internet> > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Respected Neelamji, Renuji, Actually i am using the principles as explained by Shri K N Rao in his book " Planet and children " . He has explained how saturn, jupiter, mars and moon transits in native charts brings child birth. In 1997-98 i have attended the lectures of him as our routine studies. What i have done is reverse engineering ie from the data of child , correct the janma lagna of parents, many articles on this reverse engineering has appeared in journal of astrology. I never do horoscope reading for my clients unless i get satisfied with the correction of the horoscope. Just for example , Today i got the birth details from a client who resides in delhi on phone. Female : July 11, 1981 Time: 10:35:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 77 E 33' 00 " , 29 N 58' 00 " Saharanpur, India Her lagna changes in 41 secs. The birth details of her son is : November 15, 2005 Time: 7:14:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 77 E 13' 00 " , 28 N 40' 00 " Delhi, India Now from the chart of her son and by reverse engineering technique as discussed in the book " planet and children " I corrected the mother chart as July 11, 1981 Time: 10:34:19 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 77 E 33' 00 " , 29 N 58' 00 " Saharanpur, India Than i checked the marriage timings and other incidents as per our parashari teaching and found to to more appropriate when checked with divisional charts. First fix the lagna than correct the divisional chart is my method. Shri K n Rao has given many many hints in his writings to correct the divisional chart with incidents. The method as discussed by Bhaskerji is good if we practice KP astrology where i think divisional chart does not have any importance, (more explanation can be given by Bhaskerji himself). Secondly Bhaskerji method is based on Prashna technique which does not requires any past incident information. I think Bhaskerji is in the bad habit of shouting and shouting, as seen in 75% of his mails. He is also in the habit of mixing KP astrology with parashari astrology. The lagna correction made by him is based on KP ayanamsha whereas mostly we are working with lahiri ayanamsha. He is right in his writings and i appreciate it, i had not denied his explanation but why he is shouting like a mad man. I have put forte my views in the example taken by him and he should not have any objection in it. Thankyou, Regards, Vijay Goel Jaipur. , " renunw " <renunw wrote: > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > Quoting Neelam ji, > > //You have referred to KNRs methods, which many of us here would be > familiar with and the rest would like to learn. // > > I belong to the highlighted sector...hence awaiting anxiously to grasp > something new. > > Hope you will oblige.....thanks. > > blessings, > > Renu > > , neelam gupta > <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > Kindly explain the basis of your judgment. I think the demand is > justified. > > There are various methods of BT correction, they might give different > > results. Even the same method may give difference of outcome in > different > > hands. But the method should be clear and understandable. You have > referred > > to KNRs methods, which many of us here would be familiar with and the > rest > > would like to learn. > > > > We hope you'll soon substantiate your statements. > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > > > > > 2009/7/10 Souvik Dutta explore_vulcan@ > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > I have had differences with Bhaskar-ji in the past and may even have > so in > > > the future but I completely agree with Bhaskar-ji here. > > > > > > We are an open group, so if someone wants to refute the Ruling > Planet > > > theory and the birth time correction method detailed by Bhaskar-ji > > > (brilliantly I must add), I would really love to learn his/her > method. > > > > > > I am very detached on cyber-groups so please do not take this mail > > > personally. > > > > > > Knowledge is the only thing that matters to me, nothing else. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > --- In > <%40yaho\ > ogroups.com>, > > > " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > This is not a normal Group like J.Ganga or J.Remedies where one > picks up > > > > Queries and keeps answering them. This is a serious astrology > group > > > > which I consider exclusive and enjoy being present in, due to free > > > > speech allowed, democratic set up and incessant flow of knowledge > > > > flowing around with great intelligent members. At such times, when > a > > > > member writes enquiring about his Lagna which is at border, and we > > > > answer him with a detailed logical analysis, and then some other > > > > astrologer(?) comes in suddenly at the end time of the thread and > talks > > > > contrary to what has been concluded, then it is a normal protocol, > > > > unwritten, but well understood in an assembly of intelligent > members, > > > > that he is supposed to support his contradictory claims with > logical > > > > analysis given in counter argument. One cannot say that " I think > the > > > > Lagna will be this " , " I feel the next antardasha will be > beneficial " , > > > > " This is too simple to explain " . It is unacceptable . I request > that > > > > the members take note of this, and call for an analysis from this > > > > member, when I have already presented my side with supported > analysis, > > > > and so has another member with his Lagna Sphuta mail. But in this > > > > case this member only " thinks " but has nothing to present in > support of > > > > his thinking. Shri KN Rao Sahab's name has been taken to support > and > > > > give some credence to his thinking, but no palpable logic > alongside is > > > > given. This is outright ridiculous. regards, Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > <%40yaho\ > ogroups.com>, > > > " Bhaskar " > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We would like to hear your explanations on why the Lagna must be > taken > > > > > as Vrishabha only and not as Mesha. > > > > > > > > > > What appears simple to you, may not be as simple actually. > Please > > > > > explain us why you think the way you do. > > > > > > > > > > I heard from someone that you are a astrologer or at least claim > to > > > > say > > > > > so. I also heard that you have a website offering services for > same. I > > > > > may be wrong. Then you may correct me. I would like to see the > > > > astrology > > > > > part coming from you, rather than surmises and thoughts or what > you > > > > > think. > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > <%40yaho\ > ogroups.com>, > > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goelji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri KN Rao ji has written much. Which of his teachings impies > that > > > > > the > > > > > > Lagna is Vrishabha and not Mesha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Why will Moon antardasha not appropriate for selling property > ? The > > > > > > reasons - Astrological? Why dpo you think that the Mars dasha > would > > > > be > > > > > > more beneficial ? The reasons ? - Astrological ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Why are the reasons very simple and need no explanations. I > cannot > > > > > > understand this simplicity. Can You explain ? > > > > > > > > > > > > And where were you when all this was discussed uptil now. You > come > > > > > back, > > > > > > when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from > some > > > > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now ? > This > > > > is > > > > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, so > that > > > > > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as the > logs " . > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars antar is going to be a very malefic period for him . What > > > > rubbish > > > > > > are you talking that it will be beneficial. Do you know even > the > > > > > basics > > > > > > of astrology ? > > > > > > > > > > > > After the story of Ramayana has been heard by people, You are > now > > > > > > talking " I will tell you who is Ram and Sita " . > > > > > > > > > > > > Please explain us what is simple which needs no explanation ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > <%40yaho\ > ogroups.com>, > > > " Vijay Goel " > > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji Jain, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on the birth > details > > > > of > > > > > > your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his various books. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now in your horoscope the antar of moon is running. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon MD: 2008-11-17 - 2018-11-17 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Antardasas in this MD: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon: 2008-11-17 - 2009-09-17 > > > > > > > Mars: 2009-09-17 - 2010-04-18 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But i don't find Moon antar dasa appropriate for selling of > > > > > property, > > > > > > this antar will not fetch you a good buyer instead it will > create > > > > lot > > > > > of > > > > > > frustration. I think Mars antar dasa starting from 17th sep 09 > to > > > > 18th > > > > > > april 10 will be more beneficial. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The reasons was very simple and needs no explanation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > <%40yaho\ > ogroups.com>, > > > Anand Jain > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, you are not even 100% absolutely right it is > 1000% > > > > > > correct as there is no other way to create the liquidity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Myself behind on the matter from last one year but could > not get > > > > > > appropriate buyer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With best of my regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will call u tomorrow over phone, u may give me a miss > call > > > > > > whenever u hv free time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > Re: what lagna should > be > > > > taken > > > > > > for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > To: > <%40yaho\ > ogroups.com> > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:31 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please confirm whether this liquidity you are looking for, > is > > > > due > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > sale of property or not ? Or any other source. This is to > > > > confirm > > > > > > > > whether my observations are right or not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If its from sale of property, then yes you have a good > > > > chances. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I normally charge a good amount for Birth rectification > from > > > > my > > > > > > > > > clients. You have already saved that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will appreciate that astrologers who can do Birth > > > > > > rectification > > > > > > > > > properly in india, can be counted on fingers, but apart > from > > > > me > > > > > > none > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > these will give you explanations for this, as I have > done, and > > > > > > always > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > on these Groups so that others can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any further queries can be addressed to me on a > professional > > > > > vein > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > > will appreciate that Astrology being my profession and > having > > > > a > > > > > > family > > > > > > > > > to look after, my duties lie towards professionalism > too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no words for thanks as you have devoted > valueable > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, If U don't mind and hv some time for me, is there > any > > > > > clue > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > betterment for me or expecting any huge liquidity before > > > > > > 18.7.2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna > should > > > > be > > > > > > taken > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 8:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I took up Your case for judgement at 9th Jul 2009 , > that was > > > > > > > > yesterday > > > > > > > > > at Bombay in evening at 18.21.08 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what is the Ruling Planets Theory. > > > > > > > > > > Whenever an astrologer sincerely wishes to confirm > some data > > > > > > > > available > > > > > > > > > before him, and does not have any further inputs, then > the > > > > > Divine > > > > > > > > > Configurations of the stars in the sky come to his > rescue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is to be done here. > > > > > > > > > > One must note at time of judgement what is the > prevailing > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > > Lord, > > > > > > > > > Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day Lord. This > is > > > > known > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > LSRD. > > > > > > > > > > At time of judgement taken by me, the Lagna was > Sagittarius, > > > > > > Moon > > > > > > > > Star > > > > > > > > > was Uttarasadha, Moon Raashi was Capricorn, and the Day > was > > > > > > Wednesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So taking all the Lords of these points we have the > LSRD as > > > > > > Jupiter, > > > > > > > > > The Sun, Saturn and Mercury. There is a rule that if > Rahu or > > > > > Ketu > > > > > > > > > occupies the raashi iof any of these Lords, then one > must > > > > change > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently occupying Capricorn > owned > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the New LSRD is Jupiter, The Sun, Rahu and > Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one check whether the Lagna arrived at the > recorded > > > > > > Birth > > > > > > > > > time is correct ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra Lord and > the Sub > > > > > Lord > > > > > > > > > planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that the > recorded > > > > time > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With your given birth time of 19.30 at Delhi Birth, on > 14th > > > > > > October > > > > > > > > > 1960 the Lagna arrived at was Taurus 00.04.43 using KP > > > > Ayanamsha > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord was The Sun and the Sub Lord was Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we have Sun and Rahu both in our LSRD at time of > > > > > judgement > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > Bombay we accept that the Birth time is correct. (Though > > > > whether > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > take > > > > > > > > > Aries or Taurus Lagna was still not solved, at least I > knew > > > > from > > > > > > above > > > > > > > > > xcersise, that your time of Birth was nearly right and > not > > > > many > > > > > > > > minutes > > > > > > > > > apart). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I faced 2 more problems which made me study > further - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1st problem - Using Taurus Lagna when I tried to match > the > > > > > > events of > > > > > > > > > your Life. Nothing matched. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd problem - When the events did not match. I was in > a > > > > > > quandary. I > > > > > > > > > checked the minute divisions of the degrees and realised > that > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > 29.13.20 degrees of Aries uptil 01.13.20 degrees of > Taurus, > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord and the SubLord would remain same. In > simple > > > > > > language > > > > > > > > > this means that you could have born about 3 minutes > before > > > > close > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > Mesha Lagna and 3 minutes after close of Mesha Lagna, > yet Star > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Sub lord would still remain same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I made one more additional Horary chart to recheck > this > > > > (This > > > > > is > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > advanced technique . Cannot write here because many will > not > > > > > > > > understand > > > > > > > > > and to make one understand I will have to write another > page > > > > and > > > > > > > > > everyone will get confused with so much at a time) and > found > > > > > Mars > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > figuring in the prominent planets. This gave me a clue > and > > > > went > > > > > > ahead > > > > > > > > > and fixed the Birth time as 19.29.30 without meddling > too much > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > recorded time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna arrived at is,Aries 29.56.02 Star Lord > and Sub > > > > > > Lord > > > > > > > > > remain same as in previous birth time of 19.30.00 IST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now to match the events - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage on 23.11.85 Venus-Venus . Venus signifies > the > > > > > houses > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > and 7 required to be activated primarily for marriage. > If You > > > > > have > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > software which shows the significators, then note that > Venus > > > > is > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > planet among the 9 Planets in your chart, which shows > the > > > > > SubLord > > > > > > > > again > > > > > > > > > as Venus signifying, 2,7 and 9. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) First daughter 16.12.1986 Venus - Sun. The Sun > signifies > > > > > the > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Second daughter 21.09.1988 Venus-Moon-Sun. mars > about to > > > > > > enter on > > > > > > > > > 3rd October 1988. Both Sun and Mars signify the 5th > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Father expired on 10.8.1990 Rahu amongst other > houses > > > > > > signifies > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > 8th and 9th house too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will not get the above matching by Taurus Lagna at > all, > > > > by > > > > > > > > > whatever stretch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope my time spent is of use to You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already done some work on this. But before we > move > > > > > > further > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > you pl. call me on my cell number 9323522663, so > that I > > > > > could > > > > > > > > spend > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > time on same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > Anand > > > > > Jain > > > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful manner, as u r explaining to us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.10.1960 19.30 Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married on 23.11.85 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first daughter 16.12.1986 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd daughter 21.9.1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father expired 10.8.1990 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Detained by Custom officials on 29.12.1990 and > case > > > > > > finalised on > > > > > > > > > > > 19.4.2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what > lagna > > > > should > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > taken for > > > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 8 July, 2009, 6:19 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If You are using KP ayanamsha then it will the > same > > > > Lagna. > > > > > > If > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > using Lahiris or Ramans then there may be a doubt > of the > > > > > > Lagna. > > > > > > > > > (This > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > presuming that your time of Birth is accurate). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But before that there is a process known as Ruling > > > > Planets > > > > > > > > theory > > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > will help you guide to the right Lagna. If You put > the > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > details > > > > > > > > > > > > here, I will make a Live example of this process > so all > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > not familiar with this can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also put a few incindets from your Life, marriage > date > > > > (If > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > married, childrens birth date,) date of employment > etc. > > > > > > whatever > > > > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > > > > incidents you remember, limiting it to 5 , so that > the > > > > > mail > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > too long . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > com, > > > > > > " swarup1068 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <swarup1068@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will u pl clarify, if horoscope of any native > shows > > > > the > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > > degree > > > > > > > > > > > > of 00:01, what lagna should be taken for > prediction > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand jain ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls remov ur phone Numbr along with posts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds Team grp managemnt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and > safer > > > > > > Internet > > > > > > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads. / > in/internetexplo > > > > > rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people > like > > > > you. > > > > > > Check > > > > > > > > > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer > Internet > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Dear Bhaskarji, your quote : ////when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from some property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now ? This is like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, so that people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as the logs " .//// You may be right, ha ha but i have not denied your hard work, i have given my views based on your conclusion, whats wrong in it? You find moon antar better, its your KP method; i find mars antar better in terms of property matter, its my view. Reasons : In D-1 chart : Moon is in 3H in karka in papkartari yoga aspected by none. In D-9: Moon in 12H as 7L aspected by venus as 10L & 5L. In D-4 : Moon in 9H in papkartari yoga aspected by venus and mercury. Here position improves for property related matters. In all three chart, involvement of 4th house is negligible so property related matters will hardly fructify, only in D-4 chart, 2nd house is involved. If we observe moon in D-10 chart than this antar of moon will bring lot of hard work and short travels related to career and profession. Now look at mars: D-1: Mars in 2nd house aspected by saturn and jupiter. saturn is aspecting sun the 4L. D-9: mars is 4L in 3H aspected by saturn (2L) ans sun. D-4: Mars with jupiter in 8H aspecting 2H and sun as 4L is aspecting mars from 2H. In all above chart it is clear that mars has more linkage to 4th and 2H related matters.Hence i find it more appropriate. ************ Thankyou, Regards, Vijay Goel Jaipur. If any person want to have any peaceful discussion on this matter or have any doubts he\she can call me on my mobile or email me. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Vijay Goelji, > > Shri KN Rao ji has written much. Which of his teachings impies that the > Lagna is Vrishabha and not Mesha. > > Why will Moon antardasha not appropriate for selling property ? The > reasons - Astrological? Why dpo you think that the Mars dasha would be > more beneficial ? The reasons ? - Astrological ? > > Why are the reasons very simple and need no explanations. I cannot > understand this simplicity. Can You explain ? > > And where were you when all this was discussed uptil now. You come back, > when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from some > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now ? This is > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, so that > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as the logs " . > > Mars antar is going to be a very malefic period for him . What rubbish > are you talking that it will be beneficial. Do you know even the basics > of astrology ? > > After the story of Ramayana has been heard by people, You are now > talking " I will tell you who is Ram and Sita " . > > Please explain us what is simple which needs no explanation ? > > Bhaskar. > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anand ji Jain, > > > > I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on the birth details of > your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his various books. > > > > Now in your horoscope the antar of moon is running. > > > > Vimsottari Dasa: > > > > Moon MD: 2008-11-17 - 2018-11-17 > > > > Antardasas in this MD: > > > > Moon: 2008-11-17 - 2009-09-17 > > Mars: 2009-09-17 - 2010-04-18 > > > > But i don't find Moon antar dasa appropriate for selling of property, > this antar will not fetch you a good buyer instead it will create lot of > frustration. I think Mars antar dasa starting from 17th sep 09 to 18th > april 10 will be more beneficial. > > > > The reasons was very simple and needs no explanation. > > > > Thankyou, > > Regards, > > Vijay Goel > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > , Anand Jain > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > Of course, you are not even 100% absolutely right it is 1000% > correct as there is no other way to create the liquidity. > > > > > > Myself behind on the matter from last one year but could not get > appropriate buyer. > > > > > > With best of my regards > > > > > > Anand Jain > > > > > > I will call u tomorrow over phone, u may give me a miss call > whenever u hv free time. > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > Re: what lagna should be taken > for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:31 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand ji, > > > > > > Please confirm whether this liquidity you are looking for, is due > from > > > sale of property or not ? Or any other source. This is to confirm > > > whether my observations are right or not. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji, > > > > > > > > If its from sale of property, then yes you have a good chances. > > > > > > > > I normally charge a good amount for Birth rectification from my > > > > clients. You have already saved that. > > > > > > > > You will appreciate that astrologers who can do Birth > rectification > > > > properly in india, can be counted on fingers, but apart from me > none > > > of > > > > these will give you explanations for this, as I have done, and > always > > > do > > > > on these Groups so that others can learn. > > > > > > > > Any further queries can be addressed to me on a professional vein > . > > > You > > > > will appreciate that Astrology being my profession and having a > family > > > > to look after, my duties lie towards professionalism too. > > > > > > > > thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anand Jain > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > I have no words for thanks as you have devoted valueable time. > > > > > > > > > > Sir, If U don't mind and hv some time for me, is there any clue > for > > > > betterment for me or expecting any huge liquidity before > 18.7.2009. > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna should be > taken > > > for > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 8:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain ji, > > > > > > > > > > I took up Your case for judgement at 9th Jul 2009 , that was > > > yesterday > > > > at Bombay in evening at 18.21.08 > > > > > > > > > > Now what is the Ruling Planets Theory. > > > > > Whenever an astrologer sincerely wishes to confirm some data > > > available > > > > before him, and does not have any further inputs, then the Divine > > > > Configurations of the stars in the sky come to his rescue. > > > > > > > > > > What is to be done here. > > > > > One must note at time of judgement what is the prevailing Lagna > > > Lord, > > > > Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day Lord. This is known > as > > > > LSRD. > > > > > At time of judgement taken by me, the Lagna was Sagittarius, > Moon > > > Star > > > > was Uttarasadha, Moon Raashi was Capricorn, and the Day was > Wednesday. > > > > > > > > > > So taking all the Lords of these points we have the LSRD as > Jupiter, > > > > The Sun, Saturn and Mercury. There is a rule that if Rahu or Ketu > > > > occupies the raashi iof any of these Lords, then one must change > the > > > > Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently occupying Capricorn owned by > > > > Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > Now the New LSRD is Jupiter, The Sun, Rahu and Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > How does one check whether the Lagna arrived at the recorded > Birth > > > > time is correct ? > > > > > > > > > > If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra Lord and the Sub Lord > > > > planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that the recorded time > is > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > With your given birth time of 19.30 at Delhi Birth, on 14th > October > > > > 1960 the Lagna arrived at was Taurus 00.04.43 using KP Ayanamsha > and > > > the > > > > Nakshatra Lord was The Sun and the Sub Lord was Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > Since we have Sun and Rahu both in our LSRD at time of judgement > in > > > > Bombay we accept that the Birth time is correct. (Though whether > to > > > take > > > > Aries or Taurus Lagna was still not solved, at least I knew from > above > > > > xcersise, that your time of Birth was nearly right and not many > > > minutes > > > > apart). > > > > > > > > > > But I faced 2 more problems which made me study further - > > > > > > > > > > 1st problem - Using Taurus Lagna when I tried to match the > events of > > > > your Life. Nothing matched. > > > > > > > > > > 2nd problem - When the events did not match. I was in a > quandary. I > > > > checked the minute divisions of the degrees and realised that from > > > > 29.13.20 degrees of Aries uptil 01.13.20 degrees of Taurus, the > > > > Nakshatra Lord and the SubLord would remain same. In simple > language > > > > this means that you could have born about 3 minutes before close > of > > > > Mesha Lagna and 3 minutes after close of Mesha Lagna, yet Star > lord > > > and > > > > Sub lord would still remain same. > > > > > > > > > > I made one more additional Horary chart to recheck this (This is > a > > > > advanced technique . Cannot write here because many will not > > > understand > > > > and to make one understand I will have to write another page and > > > > everyone will get confused with so much at a time) and found Mars > was > > > > figuring in the prominent planets. This gave me a clue and went > ahead > > > > and fixed the Birth time as 19.29.30 without meddling too much > with > > > the > > > > recorded time. > > > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna arrived at is,Aries 29.56.02 Star Lord and Sub > Lord > > > > remain same as in previous birth time of 19.30.00 IST > > > > > > > > > > Now to match the events - > > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage on 23.11.85 Venus-Venus . Venus signifies the houses > 2 > > > > and 7 required to be activated primarily for marriage. If You have > a > > > > software which shows the significators, then note that Venus is > the > > > only > > > > planet among the 9 Planets in your chart, which shows the SubLord > > > again > > > > as Venus signifying, 2,7 and 9. > > > > > > > > > > 2) First daughter 16.12.1986 Venus - Sun. The Sun signifies the > 5th > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > 3) Second daughter 21.09.1988 Venus-Moon-Sun. mars about to > enter on > > > > 3rd October 1988. Both Sun and Mars signify the 5th house. > > > > > > > > > > 4) Father expired on 10.8.1990 Rahu amongst other houses > signifies > > > the > > > > 8th and 9th house too. > > > > > > > > > > You will not get the above matching by Taurus Lagna at all, by > > > > whatever stretch. > > > > > > > > > > Hope my time spent is of use to You. > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already done some work on this. But before we move > further > > > > could > > > > > > you pl. call me on my cell number 9323522663, so that I could > > > spend > > > > some > > > > > > time on same. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anand Jain > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful manner, as u r explaining to us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.10.1960 19.30 Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married on 23.11.85 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first daughter 16.12.1986 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd daughter 21.9.1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father expired 10.8.1990 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Detained by Custom officials on 29.12.1990 and case > finalised on > > > > > > 19.4.2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna should > be > > > > taken for > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Wednesday, 8 July, 2009, 6:19 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If You are using KP ayanamsha then it will the same Lagna. > If > > > you > > > > are > > > > > > > using Lahiris or Ramans then there may be a doubt of the > Lagna. > > > > (This > > > > > > is > > > > > > > presuming that your time of Birth is accurate). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But before that there is a process known as Ruling Planets > > > theory > > > > > > which > > > > > > > will help you guide to the right Lagna. If You put the birth > > > > details > > > > > > > here, I will make a Live example of this process so all > those > > > who > > > > are > > > > > > > not familiar with this can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also put a few incindets from your Life, marriage date (If > You > > > are > > > > > > > married, childrens birth date,) date of employment etc. > whatever > > > > major > > > > > > > incidents you remember, limiting it to 5 , so that the mail > does > > > > not > > > > > > go > > > > > > > too long . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > " swarup1068 " > > > > > > > <swarup1068@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will u pl clarify, if horoscope of any native shows the > lagna > > > > degree > > > > > > > of 00:01, what lagna should be taken for prediction > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand jain ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls remov ur phone Numbr along with posts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds Team grp managemnt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer > Internet > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. > Check > > > > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet > Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Dear Vijay Goel-ji, Thank you for sharing. However, I have a request to you. You mentioned that you corrected the parent's birth time from the child's chart. Can you please explain this process in a little more detail? Did you take A9, 9H, A10, 10H, sign occupied by the 9HL or 10HL or trines to it? I apologize but I don't have Sri Rao's book " Planet and children " and it will help me immensely if you shower some light on your method with an example for my clear understanding. Regards Souvik , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj wrote: > > Respected Neelamji, Renuji, > > Actually i am using the principles as explained by Shri K N Rao in his book " Planet and children " . > He has explained how saturn, jupiter, mars and moon transits in native charts brings child birth. In 1997-98 i have attended the lectures of him as our routine studies. > > What i have done is reverse engineering ie from the data of child , correct the janma lagna of parents, many articles on this reverse engineering has appeared in journal of astrology. > > I never do horoscope reading for my clients unless i get satisfied with the correction of the horoscope. > > Just for example , Today i got the birth details from a client who resides in delhi on phone. > Female : > July 11, 1981 > Time: 10:35:00 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 77 E 33' 00 " , 29 N 58' 00 " > Saharanpur, India > > Her lagna changes in 41 secs. > > The birth details of her son is : > November 15, 2005 > Time: 7:14:00 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 77 E 13' 00 " , 28 N 40' 00 " > Delhi, India > > Now from the chart of her son and by reverse engineering technique as discussed in the book " planet and children " > > I corrected the mother chart as > > July 11, 1981 > Time: 10:34:19 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 77 E 33' 00 " , 29 N 58' 00 " > Saharanpur, India > > Than i checked the marriage timings and other incidents as per our parashari teaching and found to to more appropriate when checked with divisional charts. > > First fix the lagna than correct the divisional chart is my method. > > Shri K n Rao has given many many hints in his writings to correct the divisional chart with incidents. > > The method as discussed by Bhaskerji is good if we practice KP astrology where i think divisional chart does not have any importance, (more explanation can be given by Bhaskerji himself). > Secondly Bhaskerji method is based on Prashna technique which does not requires any past incident information. > > I think Bhaskerji is in the bad habit of shouting and shouting, as seen in 75% of his mails. > He is also in the habit of mixing KP astrology with parashari astrology. > The lagna correction made by him is based on KP ayanamsha whereas mostly we are working with lahiri ayanamsha. > He is right in his writings and i appreciate it, i had not denied his explanation but why he is shouting like a mad man. > I have put forte my views in the example taken by him and he should not have any objection in it. > > > Thankyou, > Regards, > Vijay Goel > Jaipur. > > > , " renunw " <renunw@> wrote: > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > Quoting Neelam ji, > > > > //You have referred to KNRs methods, which many of us here would be > > familiar with and the rest would like to learn. // > > > > I belong to the highlighted sector...hence awaiting anxiously to grasp > > something new. > > > > Hope you will oblige.....thanks. > > > > blessings, > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , neelam gupta > > <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > > > Kindly explain the basis of your judgment. I think the demand is > > justified. > > > There are various methods of BT correction, they might give different > > > results. Even the same method may give difference of outcome in > > different > > > hands. But the method should be clear and understandable. You have > > referred > > > to KNRs methods, which many of us here would be familiar with and the > > rest > > > would like to learn. > > > > > > We hope you'll soon substantiate your statements. > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/7/10 Souvik Dutta explore_vulcan@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > I have had differences with Bhaskar-ji in the past and may even have > > so in > > > > the future but I completely agree with Bhaskar-ji here. > > > > > > > > We are an open group, so if someone wants to refute the Ruling > > Planet > > > > theory and the birth time correction method detailed by Bhaskar-ji > > > > (brilliantly I must add), I would really love to learn his/her > > method. > > > > > > > > I am very detached on cyber-groups so please do not take this mail > > > > personally. > > > > > > > > Knowledge is the only thing that matters to me, nothing else. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > <%40yaho\ > > ogroups.com>, > > > > " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > This is not a normal Group like J.Ganga or J.Remedies where one > > picks up > > > > > Queries and keeps answering them. This is a serious astrology > > group > > > > > which I consider exclusive and enjoy being present in, due to free > > > > > speech allowed, democratic set up and incessant flow of knowledge > > > > > flowing around with great intelligent members. At such times, when > > a > > > > > member writes enquiring about his Lagna which is at border, and we > > > > > answer him with a detailed logical analysis, and then some other > > > > > astrologer(?) comes in suddenly at the end time of the thread and > > talks > > > > > contrary to what has been concluded, then it is a normal protocol, > > > > > unwritten, but well understood in an assembly of intelligent > > members, > > > > > that he is supposed to support his contradictory claims with > > logical > > > > > analysis given in counter argument. One cannot say that " I think > > the > > > > > Lagna will be this " , " I feel the next antardasha will be > > beneficial " , > > > > > " This is too simple to explain " . It is unacceptable . I request > > that > > > > > the members take note of this, and call for an analysis from this > > > > > member, when I have already presented my side with supported > > analysis, > > > > > and so has another member with his Lagna Sphuta mail. But in this > > > > > case this member only " thinks " but has nothing to present in > > support of > > > > > his thinking. Shri KN Rao Sahab's name has been taken to support > > and > > > > > give some credence to his thinking, but no palpable logic > > alongside is > > > > > given. This is outright ridiculous. regards, Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > <%40yaho\ > > ogroups.com>, > > > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We would like to hear your explanations on why the Lagna must be > > taken > > > > > > as Vrishabha only and not as Mesha. > > > > > > > > > > > > What appears simple to you, may not be as simple actually. > > Please > > > > > > explain us why you think the way you do. > > > > > > > > > > > > I heard from someone that you are a astrologer or at least claim > > to > > > > > say > > > > > > so. I also heard that you have a website offering services for > > same. I > > > > > > may be wrong. Then you may correct me. I would like to see the > > > > > astrology > > > > > > part coming from you, rather than surmises and thoughts or what > > you > > > > > > think. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > <%40yaho\ > > ogroups.com>, > > > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goelji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri KN Rao ji has written much. Which of his teachings impies > > that > > > > > > the > > > > > > > Lagna is Vrishabha and not Mesha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why will Moon antardasha not appropriate for selling property > > ? The > > > > > > > reasons - Astrological? Why dpo you think that the Mars dasha > > would > > > > > be > > > > > > > more beneficial ? The reasons ? - Astrological ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why are the reasons very simple and need no explanations. I > > cannot > > > > > > > understand this simplicity. Can You explain ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And where were you when all this was discussed uptil now. You > > come > > > > > > back, > > > > > > > when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from > > some > > > > > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now ? > > This > > > > > is > > > > > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, so > > that > > > > > > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as the > > logs " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars antar is going to be a very malefic period for him . What > > > > > rubbish > > > > > > > are you talking that it will be beneficial. Do you know even > > the > > > > > > basics > > > > > > > of astrology ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After the story of Ramayana has been heard by people, You are > > now > > > > > > > talking " I will tell you who is Ram and Sita " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please explain us what is simple which needs no explanation ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > <%40yaho\ > > ogroups.com>, > > > > " Vijay Goel " > > > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji Jain, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on the birth > > details > > > > > of > > > > > > > your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his various books. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now in your horoscope the antar of moon is running. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon MD: 2008-11-17 - 2018-11-17 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Antardasas in this MD: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon: 2008-11-17 - 2009-09-17 > > > > > > > > Mars: 2009-09-17 - 2010-04-18 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But i don't find Moon antar dasa appropriate for selling of > > > > > > property, > > > > > > > this antar will not fetch you a good buyer instead it will > > create > > > > > lot > > > > > > of > > > > > > > frustration. I think Mars antar dasa starting from 17th sep 09 > > to > > > > > 18th > > > > > > > april 10 will be more beneficial. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The reasons was very simple and needs no explanation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > <%40yaho\ > > ogroups.com>, > > > > Anand Jain > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, you are not even 100% absolutely right it is > > 1000% > > > > > > > correct as there is no other way to create the liquidity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Myself behind on the matter from last one year but could > > not get > > > > > > > appropriate buyer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With best of my regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will call u tomorrow over phone, u may give me a miss > > call > > > > > > > whenever u hv free time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > Re: what lagna should > > be > > > > > taken > > > > > > > for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > To: > > <%40yaho\ > > ogroups.com> > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:31 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please confirm whether this liquidity you are looking for, > > is > > > > > due > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > sale of property or not ? Or any other source. This is to > > > > > confirm > > > > > > > > > whether my observations are right or not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If its from sale of property, then yes you have a good > > > > > chances. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I normally charge a good amount for Birth rectification > > from > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > clients. You have already saved that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will appreciate that astrologers who can do Birth > > > > > > > rectification > > > > > > > > > > properly in india, can be counted on fingers, but apart > > from > > > > > me > > > > > > > none > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > these will give you explanations for this, as I have > > done, and > > > > > > > always > > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > on these Groups so that others can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any further queries can be addressed to me on a > > professional > > > > > > vein > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > > > will appreciate that Astrology being my profession and > > having > > > > > a > > > > > > > family > > > > > > > > > > to look after, my duties lie towards professionalism > > too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no words for thanks as you have devoted > > valueable > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, If U don't mind and hv some time for me, is there > > any > > > > > > clue > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > betterment for me or expecting any huge liquidity before > > > > > > > 18.7.2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna > > should > > > > > be > > > > > > > taken > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 8:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I took up Your case for judgement at 9th Jul 2009 , > > that was > > > > > > > > > yesterday > > > > > > > > > > at Bombay in evening at 18.21.08 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what is the Ruling Planets Theory. > > > > > > > > > > > Whenever an astrologer sincerely wishes to confirm > > some data > > > > > > > > > available > > > > > > > > > > before him, and does not have any further inputs, then > > the > > > > > > Divine > > > > > > > > > > Configurations of the stars in the sky come to his > > rescue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is to be done here. > > > > > > > > > > > One must note at time of judgement what is the > > prevailing > > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > > > Lord, > > > > > > > > > > Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day Lord. This > > is > > > > > known > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > LSRD. > > > > > > > > > > > At time of judgement taken by me, the Lagna was > > Sagittarius, > > > > > > > Moon > > > > > > > > > Star > > > > > > > > > > was Uttarasadha, Moon Raashi was Capricorn, and the Day > > was > > > > > > > Wednesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So taking all the Lords of these points we have the > > LSRD as > > > > > > > Jupiter, > > > > > > > > > > The Sun, Saturn and Mercury. There is a rule that if > > Rahu or > > > > > > Ketu > > > > > > > > > > occupies the raashi iof any of these Lords, then one > > must > > > > > change > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently occupying Capricorn > > owned > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the New LSRD is Jupiter, The Sun, Rahu and > > Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one check whether the Lagna arrived at the > > recorded > > > > > > > Birth > > > > > > > > > > time is correct ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra Lord and > > the Sub > > > > > > Lord > > > > > > > > > > planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that the > > recorded > > > > > time > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With your given birth time of 19.30 at Delhi Birth, on > > 14th > > > > > > > October > > > > > > > > > > 1960 the Lagna arrived at was Taurus 00.04.43 using KP > > > > > Ayanamsha > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord was The Sun and the Sub Lord was Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we have Sun and Rahu both in our LSRD at time of > > > > > > judgement > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > Bombay we accept that the Birth time is correct. (Though > > > > > whether > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > take > > > > > > > > > > Aries or Taurus Lagna was still not solved, at least I > > knew > > > > > from > > > > > > > above > > > > > > > > > > xcersise, that your time of Birth was nearly right and > > not > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > minutes > > > > > > > > > > apart). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I faced 2 more problems which made me study > > further - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1st problem - Using Taurus Lagna when I tried to match > > the > > > > > > > events of > > > > > > > > > > your Life. Nothing matched. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd problem - When the events did not match. I was in > > a > > > > > > > quandary. I > > > > > > > > > > checked the minute divisions of the degrees and realised > > that > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > 29.13.20 degrees of Aries uptil 01.13.20 degrees of > > Taurus, > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord and the SubLord would remain same. In > > simple > > > > > > > language > > > > > > > > > > this means that you could have born about 3 minutes > > before > > > > > close > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > Mesha Lagna and 3 minutes after close of Mesha Lagna, > > yet Star > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > Sub lord would still remain same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I made one more additional Horary chart to recheck > > this > > > > > (This > > > > > > is > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > advanced technique . Cannot write here because many will > > not > > > > > > > > > understand > > > > > > > > > > and to make one understand I will have to write another > > page > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > everyone will get confused with so much at a time) and > > found > > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > figuring in the prominent planets. This gave me a clue > > and > > > > > went > > > > > > > ahead > > > > > > > > > > and fixed the Birth time as 19.29.30 without meddling > > too much > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > recorded time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna arrived at is,Aries 29.56.02 Star Lord > > and Sub > > > > > > > Lord > > > > > > > > > > remain same as in previous birth time of 19.30.00 IST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now to match the events - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage on 23.11.85 Venus-Venus . Venus signifies > > the > > > > > > houses > > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > > and 7 required to be activated primarily for marriage. > > If You > > > > > > have > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > software which shows the significators, then note that > > Venus > > > > > is > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > planet among the 9 Planets in your chart, which shows > > the > > > > > > SubLord > > > > > > > > > again > > > > > > > > > > as Venus signifying, 2,7 and 9. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) First daughter 16.12.1986 Venus - Sun. The Sun > > signifies > > > > > > the > > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Second daughter 21.09.1988 Venus-Moon-Sun. mars > > about to > > > > > > > enter on > > > > > > > > > > 3rd October 1988. Both Sun and Mars signify the 5th > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Father expired on 10.8.1990 Rahu amongst other > > houses > > > > > > > signifies > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > 8th and 9th house too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will not get the above matching by Taurus Lagna at > > all, > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > whatever stretch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope my time spent is of use to You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > > > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already done some work on this. But before we > > move > > > > > > > further > > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > > you pl. call me on my cell number 9323522663, so > > that I > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > spend > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > time on same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > Anand > > > > > > Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful manner, as u r explaining to us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.10.1960 19.30 Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married on 23.11.85 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first daughter 16.12.1986 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd daughter 21.9.1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father expired 10.8.1990 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Detained by Custom officials on 29.12.1990 and > > case > > > > > > > finalised on > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.4.2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what > > lagna > > > > > should > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > taken for > > > > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 8 July, 2009, 6:19 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If You are using KP ayanamsha then it will the > > same > > > > > Lagna. > > > > > > > If > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > using Lahiris or Ramans then there may be a doubt > > of the > > > > > > > Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > (This > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > presuming that your time of Birth is accurate). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But before that there is a process known as Ruling > > > > > Planets > > > > > > > > > theory > > > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > > will help you guide to the right Lagna. If You put > > the > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > details > > > > > > > > > > > > > here, I will make a Live example of this process > > so all > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > not familiar with this can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also put a few incindets from your Life, marriage > > date > > > > > (If > > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > married, childrens birth date,) date of employment > > etc. > > > > > > > whatever > > > > > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > > > > > incidents you remember, limiting it to 5 , so that > > the > > > > > > mail > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > > too long . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > > com, > > > > > > > " swarup1068 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <swarup1068@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will u pl clarify, if horoscope of any native > > shows > > > > > the > > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > > > degree > > > > > > > > > > > > > of 00:01, what lagna should be taken for > > prediction > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand jain ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls remov ur phone Numbr along with posts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds Team grp managemnt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and > > safer > > > > > > > Internet > > > > > > > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads. / > > in/internetexplo > > > > > > rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people > > like > > > > > you. > > > > > > > Check > > > > > > > > > > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer > > Internet > > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Dear Vijay Goel ji, Thanks for your explanations. In the given example, if Lagna was taken as Virgo only transit Moon out of transit Sa, tr Ju and tr Ma had anything to do with mother's 5H, 5HL, 9H and 9HL. If Lagna is taken as Leo, transit Moon was in her 9H. Was this the reason you rectified the lagna from Virgo to Leo? blessings, Renu , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj wrote: > > Respected Neelamji, Renuji, > > Actually i am using the principles as explained by Shri K N Rao in his book " Planet and children " . > He has explained how saturn, jupiter, mars and moon transits in native charts brings child birth. In 1997-98 i have attended the lectures of him as our routine studies. > > What i have done is reverse engineering ie from the data of child , correct the janma lagna of parents, many articles on this reverse engineering has appeared in journal of astrology. > > I never do horoscope reading for my clients unless i get satisfied with the correction of the horoscope. > > Just for example , Today i got the birth details from a client who resides in delhi on phone. > Female : > July 11, 1981 > Time: 10:35:00 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 77 E 33' 00 " , 29 N 58' 00 " > Saharanpur, India > > Her lagna changes in 41 secs. > > The birth details of her son is : > November 15, 2005 > Time: 7:14:00 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 77 E 13' 00 " , 28 N 40' 00 " > Delhi, India > > Now from the chart of her son and by reverse engineering technique as discussed in the book " planet and children " > > I corrected the mother chart as > > July 11, 1981 > Time: 10:34:19 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 77 E 33' 00 " , 29 N 58' 00 " > Saharanpur, India > > Than i checked the marriage timings and other incidents as per our parashari teaching and found to to more appropriate when checked with divisional charts. > > First fix the lagna than correct the divisional chart is my method. > > Shri K n Rao has given many many hints in his writings to correct the divisional chart with incidents. > > The method as discussed by Bhaskerji is good if we practice KP astrology where i think divisional chart does not have any importance, (more explanation can be given by Bhaskerji himself). > Secondly Bhaskerji method is based on Prashna technique which does not requires any past incident information. > > I think Bhaskerji is in the bad habit of shouting and shouting, as seen in 75% of his mails. > He is also in the habit of mixing KP astrology with parashari astrology. > The lagna correction made by him is based on KP ayanamsha whereas mostly we are working with lahiri ayanamsha. > He is right in his writings and i appreciate it, i had not denied his explanation but why he is shouting like a mad man. > I have put forte my views in the example taken by him and he should not have any objection in it. > > > Thankyou, > Regards, > Vijay Goel > Jaipur. > > > , " renunw " <renunw@> wrote: > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > Quoting Neelam ji, > > > > //You have referred to KNRs methods, which many of us here would be > > familiar with and the rest would like to learn. // > > > > I belong to the highlighted sector...hence awaiting anxiously to grasp > > something new. > > > > Hope you will oblige.....thanks. > > > > blessings, > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , neelam gupta > > <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > > > Kindly explain the basis of your judgment. I think the demand is > > justified. > > > There are various methods of BT correction, they might give different > > > results. Even the same method may give difference of outcome in > > different > > > hands. But the method should be clear and understandable. You have > > referred > > > to KNRs methods, which many of us here would be familiar with and the > > rest > > > would like to learn. > > > > > > We hope you'll soon substantiate your statements. > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/7/10 Souvik Dutta explore_vulcan@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > I have had differences with Bhaskar-ji in the past and may even have > > so in > > > > the future but I completely agree with Bhaskar-ji here. > > > > > > > > We are an open group, so if someone wants to refute the Ruling > > Planet > > > > theory and the birth time correction method detailed by Bhaskar-ji > > > > (brilliantly I must add), I would really love to learn his/her > > method. > > > > > > > > I am very detached on cyber-groups so please do not take this mail > > > > personally. > > > > > > > > Knowledge is the only thing that matters to me, nothing else. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > <%40yaho\ > > ogroups.com>, > > > > " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > This is not a normal Group like J.Ganga or J.Remedies where one > > picks up > > > > > Queries and keeps answering them. This is a serious astrology > > group > > > > > which I consider exclusive and enjoy being present in, due to free > > > > > speech allowed, democratic set up and incessant flow of knowledge > > > > > flowing around with great intelligent members. At such times, when > > a > > > > > member writes enquiring about his Lagna which is at border, and we > > > > > answer him with a detailed logical analysis, and then some other > > > > > astrologer(?) comes in suddenly at the end time of the thread and > > talks > > > > > contrary to what has been concluded, then it is a normal protocol, > > > > > unwritten, but well understood in an assembly of intelligent > > members, > > > > > that he is supposed to support his contradictory claims with > > logical > > > > > analysis given in counter argument. One cannot say that " I think > > the > > > > > Lagna will be this " , " I feel the next antardasha will be > > beneficial " , > > > > > " This is too simple to explain " . It is unacceptable . I request > > that > > > > > the members take note of this, and call for an analysis from this > > > > > member, when I have already presented my side with supported > > analysis, > > > > > and so has another member with his Lagna Sphuta mail. But in this > > > > > case this member only " thinks " but has nothing to present in > > support of > > > > > his thinking. Shri KN Rao Sahab's name has been taken to support > > and > > > > > give some credence to his thinking, but no palpable logic > > alongside is > > > > > given. This is outright ridiculous. regards, Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > <%40yaho\ > > ogroups.com>, > > > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We would like to hear your explanations on why the Lagna must be > > taken > > > > > > as Vrishabha only and not as Mesha. > > > > > > > > > > > > What appears simple to you, may not be as simple actually. > > Please > > > > > > explain us why you think the way you do. > > > > > > > > > > > > I heard from someone that you are a astrologer or at least claim > > to > > > > > say > > > > > > so. I also heard that you have a website offering services for > > same. I > > > > > > may be wrong. Then you may correct me. I would like to see the > > > > > astrology > > > > > > part coming from you, rather than surmises and thoughts or what > > you > > > > > > think. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > <%40yaho\ > > ogroups.com>, > > > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goelji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri KN Rao ji has written much. Which of his teachings impies > > that > > > > > > the > > > > > > > Lagna is Vrishabha and not Mesha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why will Moon antardasha not appropriate for selling property > > ? The > > > > > > > reasons - Astrological? Why dpo you think that the Mars dasha > > would > > > > > be > > > > > > > more beneficial ? The reasons ? - Astrological ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why are the reasons very simple and need no explanations. I > > cannot > > > > > > > understand this simplicity. Can You explain ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And where were you when all this was discussed uptil now. You > > come > > > > > > back, > > > > > > > when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from > > some > > > > > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now ? > > This > > > > > is > > > > > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, so > > that > > > > > > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as the > > logs " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars antar is going to be a very malefic period for him . What > > > > > rubbish > > > > > > > are you talking that it will be beneficial. Do you know even > > the > > > > > > basics > > > > > > > of astrology ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After the story of Ramayana has been heard by people, You are > > now > > > > > > > talking " I will tell you who is Ram and Sita " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please explain us what is simple which needs no explanation ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > <%40yaho\ > > ogroups.com>, > > > > " Vijay Goel " > > > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji Jain, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on the birth > > details > > > > > of > > > > > > > your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his various books. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now in your horoscope the antar of moon is running. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon MD: 2008-11-17 - 2018-11-17 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Antardasas in this MD: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon: 2008-11-17 - 2009-09-17 > > > > > > > > Mars: 2009-09-17 - 2010-04-18 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But i don't find Moon antar dasa appropriate for selling of > > > > > > property, > > > > > > > this antar will not fetch you a good buyer instead it will > > create > > > > > lot > > > > > > of > > > > > > > frustration. I think Mars antar dasa starting from 17th sep 09 > > to > > > > > 18th > > > > > > > april 10 will be more beneficial. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The reasons was very simple and needs no explanation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > <%40yaho\ > > ogroups.com>, > > > > Anand Jain > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, you are not even 100% absolutely right it is > > 1000% > > > > > > > correct as there is no other way to create the liquidity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Myself behind on the matter from last one year but could > > not get > > > > > > > appropriate buyer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With best of my regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will call u tomorrow over phone, u may give me a miss > > call > > > > > > > whenever u hv free time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > Re: what lagna should > > be > > > > > taken > > > > > > > for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > To: > > <%40yaho\ > > ogroups.com> > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:31 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please confirm whether this liquidity you are looking for, > > is > > > > > due > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > sale of property or not ? Or any other source. This is to > > > > > confirm > > > > > > > > > whether my observations are right or not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If its from sale of property, then yes you have a good > > > > > chances. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I normally charge a good amount for Birth rectification > > from > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > clients. You have already saved that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will appreciate that astrologers who can do Birth > > > > > > > rectification > > > > > > > > > > properly in india, can be counted on fingers, but apart > > from > > > > > me > > > > > > > none > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > these will give you explanations for this, as I have > > done, and > > > > > > > always > > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > on these Groups so that others can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any further queries can be addressed to me on a > > professional > > > > > > vein > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > > > will appreciate that Astrology being my profession and > > having > > > > > a > > > > > > > family > > > > > > > > > > to look after, my duties lie towards professionalism > > too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no words for thanks as you have devoted > > valueable > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, If U don't mind and hv some time for me, is there > > any > > > > > > clue > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > betterment for me or expecting any huge liquidity before > > > > > > > 18.7.2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna > > should > > > > > be > > > > > > > taken > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 8:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I took up Your case for judgement at 9th Jul 2009 , > > that was > > > > > > > > > yesterday > > > > > > > > > > at Bombay in evening at 18.21.08 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what is the Ruling Planets Theory. > > > > > > > > > > > Whenever an astrologer sincerely wishes to confirm > > some data > > > > > > > > > available > > > > > > > > > > before him, and does not have any further inputs, then > > the > > > > > > Divine > > > > > > > > > > Configurations of the stars in the sky come to his > > rescue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is to be done here. > > > > > > > > > > > One must note at time of judgement what is the > > prevailing > > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > > > Lord, > > > > > > > > > > Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day Lord. This > > is > > > > > known > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > LSRD. > > > > > > > > > > > At time of judgement taken by me, the Lagna was > > Sagittarius, > > > > > > > Moon > > > > > > > > > Star > > > > > > > > > > was Uttarasadha, Moon Raashi was Capricorn, and the Day > > was > > > > > > > Wednesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So taking all the Lords of these points we have the > > LSRD as > > > > > > > Jupiter, > > > > > > > > > > The Sun, Saturn and Mercury. There is a rule that if > > Rahu or > > > > > > Ketu > > > > > > > > > > occupies the raashi iof any of these Lords, then one > > must > > > > > change > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently occupying Capricorn > > owned > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the New LSRD is Jupiter, The Sun, Rahu and > > Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one check whether the Lagna arrived at the > > recorded > > > > > > > Birth > > > > > > > > > > time is correct ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra Lord and > > the Sub > > > > > > Lord > > > > > > > > > > planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that the > > recorded > > > > > time > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With your given birth time of 19.30 at Delhi Birth, on > > 14th > > > > > > > October > > > > > > > > > > 1960 the Lagna arrived at was Taurus 00.04.43 using KP > > > > > Ayanamsha > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord was The Sun and the Sub Lord was Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we have Sun and Rahu both in our LSRD at time of > > > > > > judgement > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > Bombay we accept that the Birth time is correct. (Though > > > > > whether > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > take > > > > > > > > > > Aries or Taurus Lagna was still not solved, at least I > > knew > > > > > from > > > > > > > above > > > > > > > > > > xcersise, that your time of Birth was nearly right and > > not > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > minutes > > > > > > > > > > apart). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I faced 2 more problems which made me study > > further - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1st problem - Using Taurus Lagna when I tried to match > > the > > > > > > > events of > > > > > > > > > > your Life. Nothing matched. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd problem - When the events did not match. I was in > > a > > > > > > > quandary. I > > > > > > > > > > checked the minute divisions of the degrees and realised > > that > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > 29.13.20 degrees of Aries uptil 01.13.20 degrees of > > Taurus, > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord and the SubLord would remain same. In > > simple > > > > > > > language > > > > > > > > > > this means that you could have born about 3 minutes > > before > > > > > close > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > Mesha Lagna and 3 minutes after close of Mesha Lagna, > > yet Star > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > Sub lord would still remain same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I made one more additional Horary chart to recheck > > this > > > > > (This > > > > > > is > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > advanced technique . Cannot write here because many will > > not > > > > > > > > > understand > > > > > > > > > > and to make one understand I will have to write another > > page > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > everyone will get confused with so much at a time) and > > found > > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > figuring in the prominent planets. This gave me a clue > > and > > > > > went > > > > > > > ahead > > > > > > > > > > and fixed the Birth time as 19.29.30 without meddling > > too much > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > recorded time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna arrived at is,Aries 29.56.02 Star Lord > > and Sub > > > > > > > Lord > > > > > > > > > > remain same as in previous birth time of 19.30.00 IST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now to match the events - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage on 23.11.85 Venus-Venus . Venus signifies > > the > > > > > > houses > > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > > and 7 required to be activated primarily for marriage. > > If You > > > > > > have > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > software which shows the significators, then note that > > Venus > > > > > is > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > planet among the 9 Planets in your chart, which shows > > the > > > > > > SubLord > > > > > > > > > again > > > > > > > > > > as Venus signifying, 2,7 and 9. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) First daughter 16.12.1986 Venus - Sun. The Sun > > signifies > > > > > > the > > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Second daughter 21.09.1988 Venus-Moon-Sun. mars > > about to > > > > > > > enter on > > > > > > > > > > 3rd October 1988. Both Sun and Mars signify the 5th > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Father expired on 10.8.1990 Rahu amongst other > > houses > > > > > > > signifies > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > 8th and 9th house too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will not get the above matching by Taurus Lagna at > > all, > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > whatever stretch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope my time spent is of use to You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > > > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already done some work on this. But before we > > move > > > > > > > further > > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > > you pl. call me on my cell number 9323522663, so > > that I > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > spend > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > time on same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > Anand > > > > > > Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful manner, as u r explaining to us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.10.1960 19.30 Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married on 23.11.85 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first daughter 16.12.1986 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd daughter 21.9.1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father expired 10.8.1990 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Detained by Custom officials on 29.12.1990 and > > case > > > > > > > finalised on > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.4.2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what > > lagna > > > > > should > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > taken for > > > > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 8 July, 2009, 6:19 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If You are using KP ayanamsha then it will the > > same > > > > > Lagna. > > > > > > > If > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > using Lahiris or Ramans then there may be a doubt > > of the > > > > > > > Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > (This > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > presuming that your time of Birth is accurate). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But before that there is a process known as Ruling > > > > > Planets > > > > > > > > > theory > > > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > > will help you guide to the right Lagna. If You put > > the > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > details > > > > > > > > > > > > > here, I will make a Live example of this process > > so all > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > not familiar with this can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also put a few incindets from your Life, marriage > > date > > > > > (If > > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > married, childrens birth date,) date of employment > > etc. > > > > > > > whatever > > > > > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > > > > > incidents you remember, limiting it to 5 , so that > > the > > > > > > mail > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > > too long . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > > com, > > > > > > > " swarup1068 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <swarup1068@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will u pl clarify, if horoscope of any native > > shows > > > > > the > > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > > > degree > > > > > > > > > > > > > of 00:01, what lagna should be taken for > > prediction > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand jain ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls remov ur phone Numbr along with posts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds Team grp managemnt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and > > safer > > > > > > > Internet > > > > > > > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads. / > > in/internetexplo > > > > > > rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people > > like > > > > > you. > > > > > > > Check > > > > > > > > > > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer > > Internet > > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Dear Vijay Goel ji, I am not convinced by this explanation. What you have given is only the position and placement of the planets and their aspects on each other . Where is the logic part ? As regards to My KP Method. There is nothing like yours and mines. KP has come from Parashari so nothing strange or unknown quality about it. regards, Bhaskar. , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > your quote : > ////when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from some property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now ? This is like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, so that people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as the logs " .//// > > You may be right, ha ha but i have not denied your hard work, i have given my views based on your conclusion, whats wrong in it? > > You find moon antar better, its your KP method; i find mars antar better in terms of property matter, its my view. > > Reasons : > In D-1 chart : > Moon is in 3H in karka in papkartari yoga aspected by none. > In D-9: > Moon in 12H as 7L aspected by venus as 10L & 5L. > In D-4 : > Moon in 9H in papkartari yoga aspected by venus and mercury. Here position improves for property related matters. > > In all three chart, involvement of 4th house is negligible so property related matters will hardly fructify, only in D-4 chart, 2nd house is involved. If we observe moon in D-10 chart than this antar of moon will bring lot of hard work and short travels related to career and profession. > > Now look at mars: > D-1: > Mars in 2nd house aspected by saturn and jupiter. saturn is aspecting sun the 4L. > D-9: > mars is 4L in 3H aspected by saturn (2L) ans sun. > D-4: > Mars with jupiter in 8H aspecting 2H and sun as 4L is aspecting mars > from 2H. > > In all above chart it is clear that mars has more linkage to 4th and 2H related matters.Hence i find it more appropriate. > > ************ > > Thankyou, > Regards, > Vijay Goel > Jaipur. > If any person want to have any peaceful discussion on this matter or have any doubts he\she can call me on my mobile or email me. , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goelji, > > > > Shri KN Rao ji has written much. Which of his teachings impies that the > > Lagna is Vrishabha and not Mesha. > > > > Why will Moon antardasha not appropriate for selling property ? The > > reasons - Astrological? Why dpo you think that the Mars dasha would be > > more beneficial ? The reasons ? - Astrological ? > > > > Why are the reasons very simple and need no explanations. I cannot > > understand this simplicity. Can You explain ? > > > > And where were you when all this was discussed uptil now. You come back, > > when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from some > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now ? This is > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, so that > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as the logs " . > > > > Mars antar is going to be a very malefic period for him . What rubbish > > are you talking that it will be beneficial. Do you know even the basics > > of astrology ? > > > > After the story of Ramayana has been heard by people, You are now > > talking " I will tell you who is Ram and Sita " . > > > > Please explain us what is simple which needs no explanation ? > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Anand ji Jain, > > > > > > I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on the birth details of > > your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his various books. > > > > > > Now in your horoscope the antar of moon is running. > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa: > > > > > > Moon MD: 2008-11-17 - 2018-11-17 > > > > > > Antardasas in this MD: > > > > > > Moon: 2008-11-17 - 2009-09-17 > > > Mars: 2009-09-17 - 2010-04-18 > > > > > > But i don't find Moon antar dasa appropriate for selling of property, > > this antar will not fetch you a good buyer instead it will create lot of > > frustration. I think Mars antar dasa starting from 17th sep 09 to 18th > > april 10 will be more beneficial. > > > > > > The reasons was very simple and needs no explanation. > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > Regards, > > > Vijay Goel > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > , Anand Jain > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > Of course, you are not even 100% absolutely right it is 1000% > > correct as there is no other way to create the liquidity. > > > > > > > > Myself behind on the matter from last one year but could not get > > appropriate buyer. > > > > > > > > With best of my regards > > > > > > > > Anand Jain > > > > > > > > I will call u tomorrow over phone, u may give me a miss call > > whenever u hv free time. > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > Re: what lagna should be taken > > for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:31 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand ji, > > > > > > > > Please confirm whether this liquidity you are looking for, is due > > from > > > > sale of property or not ? Or any other source. This is to confirm > > > > whether my observations are right or not. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > If its from sale of property, then yes you have a good chances. > > > > > > > > > > I normally charge a good amount for Birth rectification from my > > > > > clients. You have already saved that. > > > > > > > > > > You will appreciate that astrologers who can do Birth > > rectification > > > > > properly in india, can be counted on fingers, but apart from me > > none > > > > of > > > > > these will give you explanations for this, as I have done, and > > always > > > > do > > > > > on these Groups so that others can learn. > > > > > > > > > > Any further queries can be addressed to me on a professional vein > > . > > > > You > > > > > will appreciate that Astrology being my profession and having a > > family > > > > > to look after, my duties lie towards professionalism too. > > > > > > > > > > thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anand Jain > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no words for thanks as you have devoted valueable time. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, If U don't mind and hv some time for me, is there any clue > > for > > > > > betterment for me or expecting any huge liquidity before > > 18.7.2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna should be > > taken > > > > for > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 8:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > I took up Your case for judgement at 9th Jul 2009 , that was > > > > yesterday > > > > > at Bombay in evening at 18.21.08 > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what is the Ruling Planets Theory. > > > > > > Whenever an astrologer sincerely wishes to confirm some data > > > > available > > > > > before him, and does not have any further inputs, then the Divine > > > > > Configurations of the stars in the sky come to his rescue. > > > > > > > > > > > > What is to be done here. > > > > > > One must note at time of judgement what is the prevailing Lagna > > > > Lord, > > > > > Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day Lord. This is known > > as > > > > > LSRD. > > > > > > At time of judgement taken by me, the Lagna was Sagittarius, > > Moon > > > > Star > > > > > was Uttarasadha, Moon Raashi was Capricorn, and the Day was > > Wednesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > So taking all the Lords of these points we have the LSRD as > > Jupiter, > > > > > The Sun, Saturn and Mercury. There is a rule that if Rahu or Ketu > > > > > occupies the raashi iof any of these Lords, then one must change > > the > > > > > Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently occupying Capricorn owned by > > > > > Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the New LSRD is Jupiter, The Sun, Rahu and Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one check whether the Lagna arrived at the recorded > > Birth > > > > > time is correct ? > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra Lord and the Sub Lord > > > > > planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that the recorded time > > is > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > With your given birth time of 19.30 at Delhi Birth, on 14th > > October > > > > > 1960 the Lagna arrived at was Taurus 00.04.43 using KP Ayanamsha > > and > > > > the > > > > > Nakshatra Lord was The Sun and the Sub Lord was Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we have Sun and Rahu both in our LSRD at time of judgement > > in > > > > > Bombay we accept that the Birth time is correct. (Though whether > > to > > > > take > > > > > Aries or Taurus Lagna was still not solved, at least I knew from > > above > > > > > xcersise, that your time of Birth was nearly right and not many > > > > minutes > > > > > apart). > > > > > > > > > > > > But I faced 2 more problems which made me study further - > > > > > > > > > > > > 1st problem - Using Taurus Lagna when I tried to match the > > events of > > > > > your Life. Nothing matched. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd problem - When the events did not match. I was in a > > quandary. I > > > > > checked the minute divisions of the degrees and realised that from > > > > > 29.13.20 degrees of Aries uptil 01.13.20 degrees of Taurus, the > > > > > Nakshatra Lord and the SubLord would remain same. In simple > > language > > > > > this means that you could have born about 3 minutes before close > > of > > > > > Mesha Lagna and 3 minutes after close of Mesha Lagna, yet Star > > lord > > > > and > > > > > Sub lord would still remain same. > > > > > > > > > > > > I made one more additional Horary chart to recheck this (This is > > a > > > > > advanced technique . Cannot write here because many will not > > > > understand > > > > > and to make one understand I will have to write another page and > > > > > everyone will get confused with so much at a time) and found Mars > > was > > > > > figuring in the prominent planets. This gave me a clue and went > > ahead > > > > > and fixed the Birth time as 19.29.30 without meddling too much > > with > > > > the > > > > > recorded time. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna arrived at is,Aries 29.56.02 Star Lord and Sub > > Lord > > > > > remain same as in previous birth time of 19.30.00 IST > > > > > > > > > > > > Now to match the events - > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage on 23.11.85 Venus-Venus . Venus signifies the houses > > 2 > > > > > and 7 required to be activated primarily for marriage. If You have > > a > > > > > software which shows the significators, then note that Venus is > > the > > > > only > > > > > planet among the 9 Planets in your chart, which shows the SubLord > > > > again > > > > > as Venus signifying, 2,7 and 9. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) First daughter 16.12.1986 Venus - Sun. The Sun signifies the > > 5th > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Second daughter 21.09.1988 Venus-Moon-Sun. mars about to > > enter on > > > > > 3rd October 1988. Both Sun and Mars signify the 5th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Father expired on 10.8.1990 Rahu amongst other houses > > signifies > > > > the > > > > > 8th and 9th house too. > > > > > > > > > > > > You will not get the above matching by Taurus Lagna at all, by > > > > > whatever stretch. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope my time spent is of use to You. > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already done some work on this. But before we move > > further > > > > > could > > > > > > > you pl. call me on my cell number 9323522663, so that I could > > > > spend > > > > > some > > > > > > > time on same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anand Jain > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful manner, as u r explaining to us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.10.1960 19.30 Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married on 23.11.85 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first daughter 16.12.1986 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd daughter 21.9.1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father expired 10.8.1990 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Detained by Custom officials on 29.12.1990 and case > > finalised on > > > > > > > 19.4.2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna should > > be > > > > > taken for > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 8 July, 2009, 6:19 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If You are using KP ayanamsha then it will the same Lagna. > > If > > > > you > > > > > are > > > > > > > > using Lahiris or Ramans then there may be a doubt of the > > Lagna. > > > > > (This > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > presuming that your time of Birth is accurate). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But before that there is a process known as Ruling Planets > > > > theory > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > will help you guide to the right Lagna. If You put the birth > > > > > details > > > > > > > > here, I will make a Live example of this process so all > > those > > > > who > > > > > are > > > > > > > > not familiar with this can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also put a few incindets from your Life, marriage date (If > > You > > > > are > > > > > > > > married, childrens birth date,) date of employment etc. > > whatever > > > > > major > > > > > > > > incidents you remember, limiting it to 5 , so that the mail > > does > > > > > not > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > too long . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > " swarup1068 " > > > > > > > > <swarup1068@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will u pl clarify, if horoscope of any native shows the > > lagna > > > > > degree > > > > > > > > of 00:01, what lagna should be taken for prediction > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand jain ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls remov ur phone Numbr along with posts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds Team grp managemnt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer > > Internet > > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. > > Check > > > > > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet > > Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Dear Vijay Goel ji, Divisional Charts are important everywhere, but only if the time of Birth is correct, or else corrected. In KP more minute divisions are used for prognosis, and this is done without making any Diagrammatical charts or any other sheet of paper used, except for one sheet of Paper with the planetary positions and exact degrees mentioned which is enough for predictions. I rarely see the Kundli except check the planetary positions . Prashna technique can be used by anyone, whether yourself or by me, does not matter. I shout with food in my stomache and not empty stomache. I agree about being a mad man. If appearing intelligent means becoming one like you, then I rather remain like a mad man. Let me inform, that there is not much difference between Lahiri and KP ayanamsha, just 6 arc minutes. This does not matter for any traditional astrologer. Therefore one cannot blame the scissors for not being able to cut the hair properly. Where is the reverse engineering you are talking about? One chap in another Group tried to do reverse engineering by taking Michael Jacksons death time, and tried to prove that his Venus is good. That's all. He could not give even the birth Lagna of the Pop Star, neither could he do anything but loved using the word "Reverse Engineering". He is our great CEO Moderator of the JR Group who is a nobody but always tries to appear as a somebody in front of anybody. Anyways wish you best of luck. No need for any further explanations. I have understood what you know and your depth in astrology. I am going to Jaipur (Your location?) and busy, so spare me any further ordeal of exchanges. But before I close, let me appreciate your audacity at astrology . This is similiar to those doing quick meditation today and saying that "I noticed a blue light" . They will jump on their seats and say that "I have experienced levitation". They will feel temporarily uplifted and say "My this Chakra has been openedMy Kundalini is rising". This makes me laugh, just as your analysis (??) does. Regards, Bhaskar. , "Vijay Goel" <goyalvj wrote:>> Respected Neelamji, Renuji,> > Actually i am using the principles as explained by Shri K N Rao in his book "Planet and children". > He has explained how saturn, jupiter, mars and moon transits in native charts brings child birth. In 1997-98 i have attended the lectures of him as our routine studies.> > What i have done is reverse engineering ie from the data of child , correct the janma lagna of parents, many articles on this reverse engineering has appeared in journal of astrology.> > I never do horoscope reading for my clients unless i get satisfied with the correction of the horoscope.> > Just for example , Today i got the birth details from a client who resides in delhi on phone.> Female :> July 11, 1981> Time: 10:35:00> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 77 E 33' 00", 29 N 58' 00"> Saharanpur, India> > Her lagna changes in 41 secs.> > The birth details of her son is :> November 15, 2005> Time: 7:14:00> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00"> Delhi, India> > Now from the chart of her son and by reverse engineering technique as discussed in the book "planet and children"> > I corrected the mother chart as > > July 11, 1981> Time: 10:34:19> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 77 E 33' 00", 29 N 58' 00"> Saharanpur, India> > Than i checked the marriage timings and other incidents as per our parashari teaching and found to to more appropriate when checked with divisional charts.> > First fix the lagna than correct the divisional chart is my method.> > Shri K n Rao has given many many hints in his writings to correct the divisional chart with incidents.> > The method as discussed by Bhaskerji is good if we practice KP astrology where i think divisional chart does not have any importance, (more explanation can be given by Bhaskerji himself).> Secondly Bhaskerji method is based on Prashna technique which does not requires any past incident information.> > I think Bhaskerji is in the bad habit of shouting and shouting, as seen in 75% of his mails. > He is also in the habit of mixing KP astrology with parashari astrology.> The lagna correction made by him is based on KP ayanamsha whereas mostly we are working with lahiri ayanamsha.> He is right in his writings and i appreciate it, i had not denied his explanation but why he is shouting like a mad man.> I have put forte my views in the example taken by him and he should not have any objection in it.> > > Thankyou,> Regards,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> > > , "renunw" renunw@ wrote:> >> > Dear Vijay Goel ji,> > > > Quoting Neelam ji,> > > > //You have referred to KNRs methods, which many of us here would be> > familiar with and the rest would like to learn. //> > > > I belong to the highlighted sector...hence awaiting anxiously to grasp> > something new.> > > > Hope you will oblige.....thanks.> > > > blessings,> > > > Renu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , neelam gupta> > <neelamgupta07@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,> > >> > > Kindly explain the basis of your judgment. I think the demand is> > justified.> > > There are various methods of BT correction, they might give different> > > results. Even the same method may give difference of outcome in> > different> > > hands. But the method should be clear and understandable. You have> > referred> > > to KNRs methods, which many of us here would be familiar with and the> > rest> > > would like to learn.> > >> > > We hope you'll soon substantiate your statements.> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > >> > > 2009/7/10 Souvik Dutta explore_vulcan@> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Friends,> > > >> > > > I have had differences with Bhaskar-ji in the past and may even have> > so in> > > > the future but I completely agree with Bhaskar-ji here.> > > >> > > > We are an open group, so if someone wants to refute the Ruling> > Planet> > > > theory and the birth time correction method detailed by Bhaskar-ji> > > > (brilliantly I must add), I would really love to learn his/her> > method.> > > >> > > > I am very detached on cyber-groups so please do not take this mail> > > > personally.> > > >> > > > Knowledge is the only thing that matters to me, nothing else.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > >> > > > Souvik> > > >> > > >> > > > --- In> > <%40yaho\> > ogroups.com>,> > > > "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > This is not a normal Group like J.Ganga or J.Remedies where one> > picks up> > > > > Queries and keeps answering them. This is a serious astrology> > group> > > > > which I consider exclusive and enjoy being present in, due to free> > > > > speech allowed, democratic set up and incessant flow of knowledge> > > > > flowing around with great intelligent members. At such times, when> > a> > > > > member writes enquiring about his Lagna which is at border, and we> > > > > answer him with a detailed logical analysis, and then some other> > > > > astrologer(?) comes in suddenly at the end time of the thread and> > talks> > > > > contrary to what has been concluded, then it is a normal protocol,> > > > > unwritten, but well understood in an assembly of intelligent> > members,> > > > > that he is supposed to support his contradictory claims with> > logical> > > > > analysis given in counter argument. One cannot say that "I think> > the> > > > > Lagna will be this ", "I feel the next antardasha will be> > beneficial",> > > > > "This is too simple to explain". It is unacceptable . I request> > that> > > > > the members take note of this, and call for an analysis from this> > > > > member, when I have already presented my side with supported> > analysis,> > > > > and so has another member with his Lagna Sphuta mail. But in this> > > > > case this member only " thinks" but has nothing to present in> > support of> > > > > his thinking. Shri KN Rao Sahab's name has been taken to support> > and> > > > > give some credence to his thinking, but no palpable logic> > alongside is> > > > > given. This is outright ridiculous. regards, Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --- In> > <%40yaho\> > ogroups.com>,> > > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > We would like to hear your explanations on why the Lagna must be> > taken> > > > > > as Vrishabha only and not as Mesha.> > > > > >> > > > > > What appears simple to you, may not be as simple actually.> > Please> > > > > > explain us why you think the way you do.> > > > > >> > > > > > I heard from someone that you are a astrologer or at least claim> > to> > > > > say> > > > > > so. I also heard that you have a website offering services for> > same. I> > > > > > may be wrong. Then you may correct me. I would like to see the> > > > > astrology> > > > > > part coming from you, rather than surmises and thoughts or what> > you> > > > > > think.> > > > > >> > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --- In> > <%40yaho\> > ogroups.com>,> > > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goelji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Shri KN Rao ji has written much. Which of his teachings impies> > that> > > > > > the> > > > > > > Lagna is Vrishabha and not Mesha.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Why will Moon antardasha not appropriate for selling property> > ? The> > > > > > > reasons - Astrological? Why dpo you think that the Mars dasha> > would> > > > > be> > > > > > > more beneficial ? The reasons ? - Astrological ?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Why are the reasons very simple and need no explanations. I> > cannot> > > > > > > understand this simplicity. Can You explain ?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > And where were you when all this was discussed uptil now. You> > come> > > > > > back,> > > > > > > when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from> > some> > > > > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now ?> > This> > > > > is> > > > > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, so> > that> > > > > > > people think that "I am pushing the elephant as well as the> > logs".> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Mars antar is going to be a very malefic period for him . What> > > > > rubbish> > > > > > > are you talking that it will be beneficial. Do you know even> > the> > > > > > basics> > > > > > > of astrology ?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > After the story of Ramayana has been heard by people, You are> > now> > > > > > > talking " I will tell you who is Ram and Sita".> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Please explain us what is simple which needs no explanation ?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- In> > <%40yaho\> > ogroups.com>,> > > > "Vijay Goel"> > > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji Jain,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on the birth> > details> > > > > of> > > > > > > your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his various books.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Now in your horoscope the antar of moon is running.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Moon MD: 2008-11-17 - 2018-11-17> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Antardasas in this MD:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Moon: 2008-11-17 - 2009-09-17> > > > > > > > Mars: 2009-09-17 - 2010-04-18> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > But i don't find Moon antar dasa appropriate for selling of> > > > > > property,> > > > > > > this antar will not fetch you a good buyer instead it will> > create> > > > > lot> > > > > > of> > > > > > > frustration. I think Mars antar dasa starting from 17th sep 09> > to> > > > > 18th> > > > > > > april 10 will be more beneficial.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The reasons was very simple and needs no explanation.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thankyou,> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --- In> > <%40yaho\> > ogroups.com>,> > > > Anand Jain> > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Of course, you are not even 100% absolutely right it is> > 1000%> > > > > > > correct as there is no other way to create the liquidity.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Myself behind on the matter from last one year but could> > not get> > > > > > > appropriate buyer.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > With best of my regards> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Anand Jain> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I will call u tomorrow over phone, u may give me a miss> > call> > > > > > > whenever u hv free time.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > > > > Re: what lagna should> > be> > > > > taken> > > > > > > for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree> > > > > > > > > To:> > <%40yaho\> > ogroups.com>> > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:31 AM> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Anand ji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Please confirm whether this liquidity you are looking for,> > is> > > > > due> > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > sale of property or not ? Or any other source. This is to> > > > > confirm> > > > > > > > > whether my observations are right or not.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > If its from sale of property, then yes you have a good> > > > > chances.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I normally charge a good amount for Birth rectification> > from> > > > > my> > > > > > > > > > clients. You have already saved that.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > You will appreciate that astrologers who can do Birth> > > > > > > rectification> > > > > > > > > > properly in india, can be counted on fingers, but apart> > from> > > > > me> > > > > > > none> > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > these will give you explanations for this, as I have> > done, and> > > > > > > always> > > > > > > > > do> > > > > > > > > > on these Groups so that others can learn.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Any further queries can be addressed to me on a> > professional> > > > > > vein> > > > > > > .> > > > > > > > > You> > > > > > > > > > will appreciate that Astrology being my profession and> > having> > > > > a> > > > > > > family> > > > > > > > > > to look after, my duties lie towards professionalism> > too.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > thanks and regards,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > Anand Jain> > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I have no words for thanks as you have devoted> > valueable> > > > > time.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Sir, If U don't mind and hv some time for me, is there> > any> > > > > > clue> > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > > betterment for me or expecting any huge liquidity before> > > > > > > 18.7.2009.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand jain> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna> > should> > > > > be> > > > > > > taken> > > > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 8:09 AM> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain ji,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I took up Your case for judgement at 9th Jul 2009 ,> > that was> > > > > > > > > yesterday> > > > > > > > > > at Bombay in evening at 18.21.08> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Now what is the Ruling Planets Theory.> > > > > > > > > > > Whenever an astrologer sincerely wishes to confirm> > some data> > > > > > > > > available> > > > > > > > > > before him, and does not have any further inputs, then> > the> > > > > > Divine> > > > > > > > > > Configurations of the stars in the sky come to his> > rescue.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > What is to be done here.> > > > > > > > > > > One must note at time of judgement what is the> > prevailing> > > > > > Lagna> > > > > > > > > Lord,> > > > > > > > > > Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day Lord. This> > is> > > > > known> > > > > > > as> > > > > > > > > > LSRD.> > > > > > > > > > > At time of judgement taken by me, the Lagna was> > Sagittarius,> > > > > > > Moon> > > > > > > > > Star> > > > > > > > > > was Uttarasadha, Moon Raashi was Capricorn, and the Day> > was> > > > > > > Wednesday.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > So taking all the Lords of these points we have the> > LSRD as> > > > > > > Jupiter,> > > > > > > > > > The Sun, Saturn and Mercury. There is a rule that if> > Rahu or> > > > > > Ketu> > > > > > > > > > occupies the raashi iof any of these Lords, then one> > must> > > > > change> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently occupying Capricorn> > owned> > > > > > by> > > > > > > > > > Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of Saturn.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Now the New LSRD is Jupiter, The Sun, Rahu and> > Mercury.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > How does one check whether the Lagna arrived at the> > recorded> > > > > > > Birth> > > > > > > > > > time is correct ?> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra Lord and> > the Sub> > > > > > Lord> > > > > > > > > > planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that the> > recorded> > > > > time> > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > correct.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > With your given birth time of 19.30 at Delhi Birth, on> > 14th> > > > > > > October> > > > > > > > > > 1960 the Lagna arrived at was Taurus 00.04.43 using KP> > > > > Ayanamsha> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord was The Sun and the Sub Lord was Rahu.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Since we have Sun and Rahu both in our LSRD at time of> > > > > > judgement> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > Bombay we accept that the Birth time is correct. (Though> > > > > whether> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > take> > > > > > > > > > Aries or Taurus Lagna was still not solved, at least I> > knew> > > > > from> > > > > > > above> > > > > > > > > > xcersise, that your time of Birth was nearly right and> > not> > > > > many> > > > > > > > > minutes> > > > > > > > > > apart).> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > But I faced 2 more problems which made me study> > further -> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 1st problem - Using Taurus Lagna when I tried to match> > the> > > > > > > events of> > > > > > > > > > your Life. Nothing matched.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 2nd problem - When the events did not match. I was in> > a> > > > > > > quandary. I> > > > > > > > > > checked the minute divisions of the degrees and realised> > that> > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > > 29.13.20 degrees of Aries uptil 01.13.20 degrees of> > Taurus,> > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord and the SubLord would remain same. In> > simple> > > > > > > language> > > > > > > > > > this means that you could have born about 3 minutes> > before> > > > > close> > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > Mesha Lagna and 3 minutes after close of Mesha Lagna,> > yet Star> > > > > > > lord> > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > Sub lord would still remain same.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I made one more additional Horary chart to recheck> > this> > > > > (This> > > > > > is> > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > advanced technique . Cannot write here because many will> > not> > > > > > > > > understand> > > > > > > > > > and to make one understand I will have to write another> > page> > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > everyone will get confused with so much at a time) and> > found> > > > > > Mars> > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > figuring in the prominent planets. This gave me a clue> > and> > > > > went> > > > > > > ahead> > > > > > > > > > and fixed the Birth time as 19.29.30 without meddling> > too much> > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > recorded time.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna arrived at is,Aries 29.56.02 Star Lord> > and Sub> > > > > > > Lord> > > > > > > > > > remain same as in previous birth time of 19.30.00 IST> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Now to match the events -> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage on 23.11.85 Venus-Venus . Venus signifies> > the> > > > > > houses> > > > > > > 2> > > > > > > > > > and 7 required to be activated primarily for marriage.> > If You> > > > > > have> > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > software which shows the significators, then note that> > Venus> > > > > is> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > only> > > > > > > > > > planet among the 9 Planets in your chart, which shows> > the> > > > > > SubLord> > > > > > > > > again> > > > > > > > > > as Venus signifying, 2,7 and 9.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 2) First daughter 16.12.1986 Venus - Sun. The Sun> > signifies> > > > > > the> > > > > > > 5th> > > > > > > > > > house.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 3) Second daughter 21.09.1988 Venus-Moon-Sun. mars> > about to> > > > > > > enter on> > > > > > > > > > 3rd October 1988. Both Sun and Mars signify the 5th> > house.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 4) Father expired on 10.8.1990 Rahu amongst other> > houses> > > > > > > signifies> > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > 8th and 9th house too.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > You will not get the above matching by Taurus Lagna at> > all,> > > > > by> > > > > > > > > > whatever stretch.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Hope my time spent is of use to You.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I have already done some work on this. But before we> > move> > > > > > > further> > > > > > > > > > could> > > > > > > > > > > > you pl. call me on my cell number 9323522663, so> > that I> > > > > > could> > > > > > > > > spend> > > > > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > > > > > time on same.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > Anand> > > > > > Jain> > > > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful manner, as u r explaining to us.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.10.1960 19.30 Delhi> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > married on 23.11.85> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > first daughter 16.12.1986> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd daughter 21.9.1988> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Father expired 10.8.1990> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Detained by Custom officials on 29.12.1990 and> > case> > > > > > > finalised on> > > > > > > > > > > > 19.4.2000> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand Jain> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what> > lagna> > > > > should> > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > > taken for> > > > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree> > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 8 July, 2009, 6:19 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > If You are using KP ayanamsha then it will the> > same> > > > > Lagna.> > > > > > > If> > > > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > > are> > > > > > > > > > > > > using Lahiris or Ramans then there may be a doubt> > of the> > > > > > > Lagna.> > > > > > > > > > (This> > > > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > presuming that your time of Birth is accurate).> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > But before that there is a process known as Ruling> > > > > Planets> > > > > > > > > theory> > > > > > > > > > > > which> > > > > > > > > > > > > will help you guide to the right Lagna. If You put> > the> > > > > > birth> > > > > > > > > > details> > > > > > > > > > > > > here, I will make a Live example of this process> > so all> > > > > > > those> > > > > > > > > who> > > > > > > > > > are> > > > > > > > > > > > > not familiar with this can learn.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Also put a few incindets from your Life, marriage> > date> > > > > (If> > > > > > > You> > > > > > > > > are> > > > > > > > > > > > > married, childrens birth date,) date of employment> > etc.> > > > > > > whatever> > > > > > > > > > major> > > > > > > > > > > > > incidents you remember, limiting it to 5 , so that> > the> > > > > > mail> > > > > > > does> > > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > go> > > > > > > > > > > > > too long .> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .> > com,> > > > > > > "swarup1068"> > > > > > > > > > > > > <swarup1068@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers,> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will u pl clarify, if horoscope of any native> > shows> > > > > the> > > > > > > lagna> > > > > > > > > > degree> > > > > > > > > > > > > of 00:01, what lagna should be taken for> > prediction> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand jain> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand jain ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls remov ur phone Numbr along with posts> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds Team grp managemnt> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and> > safer> > > > > > > Internet> > > > > > > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads. /> > in/internetexplo> > > > > > rer/> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people> > like> > > > > you.> > > > > > > Check> > > > > > > > > > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. /> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer> > Internet> > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Dear Bhaskarji, your quote : // " I am going to Jaipur (Your location?) " // I am at D-687, Near Gaurav Tower, Malviya Nagar, Jaipur. My phone number is 9214502239. You are warmly welcome at Jaipur. I advise you to visit the Rishi Parashar Ashram located near to Sarika National park on Alwar route. It is said that on that place Parashar stayed and done all his works. Thankyou, Regards, Vijay Goel Jaipur. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > I am not convinced by this explanation. What you have given is only the > position and placement of the planets and their aspects on each other . > Where is the logic part ? > > As regards to My KP Method. There is nothing like yours and mines. KP > has come from Parashari so nothing strange or unknown quality about it. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > , " Vijay Goel " > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > your quote : > > ////when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from some > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now ? This is > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, so that > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as the logs " .//// > > > > You may be right, ha ha but i have not denied your hard work, i > have given my views based on your conclusion, whats wrong in it? > > > > You find moon antar better, its your KP method; i find mars antar > better in terms of property matter, its my view. > > > > Reasons : > > In D-1 chart : > > Moon is in 3H in karka in papkartari yoga aspected by none. > > In D-9: > > Moon in 12H as 7L aspected by venus as 10L & 5L. > > In D-4 : > > Moon in 9H in papkartari yoga aspected by venus and mercury. Here > position improves for property related matters. > > > > In all three chart, involvement of 4th house is negligible so property > related matters will hardly fructify, only in D-4 chart, 2nd house is > involved. If we observe moon in D-10 chart than this antar of moon will > bring lot of hard work and short travels related to career and > profession. > > > > Now look at mars: > > D-1: > > Mars in 2nd house aspected by saturn and jupiter. saturn is aspecting > sun the 4L. > > D-9: > > mars is 4L in 3H aspected by saturn (2L) ans sun. > > D-4: > > Mars with jupiter in 8H aspecting 2H and sun as 4L is aspecting mars > > from 2H. > > > > In all above chart it is clear that mars has more linkage to 4th and > 2H related matters.Hence i find it more appropriate. > > > > ************ > > > > Thankyou, > > Regards, > > Vijay Goel > > Jaipur. > > If any person want to have any peaceful discussion on this matter or > have any doubts he\she can call me on my mobile or email me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goelji, > > > > > > Shri KN Rao ji has written much. Which of his teachings impies that > the > > > Lagna is Vrishabha and not Mesha. > > > > > > Why will Moon antardasha not appropriate for selling property ? The > > > reasons - Astrological? Why dpo you think that the Mars dasha would > be > > > more beneficial ? The reasons ? - Astrological ? > > > > > > Why are the reasons very simple and need no explanations. I cannot > > > understand this simplicity. Can You explain ? > > > > > > And where were you when all this was discussed uptil now. You come > back, > > > when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from some > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now ? This > is > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, so that > > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as the logs " . > > > > > > Mars antar is going to be a very malefic period for him . What > rubbish > > > are you talking that it will be beneficial. Do you know even the > basics > > > of astrology ? > > > > > > After the story of Ramayana has been heard by people, You are now > > > talking " I will tell you who is Ram and Sita " . > > > > > > Please explain us what is simple which needs no explanation ? > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji Jain, > > > > > > > > I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on the birth details > of > > > your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his various books. > > > > > > > > Now in your horoscope the antar of moon is running. > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa: > > > > > > > > Moon MD: 2008-11-17 - 2018-11-17 > > > > > > > > Antardasas in this MD: > > > > > > > > Moon: 2008-11-17 - 2009-09-17 > > > > Mars: 2009-09-17 - 2010-04-18 > > > > > > > > But i don't find Moon antar dasa appropriate for selling of > property, > > > this antar will not fetch you a good buyer instead it will create > lot of > > > frustration. I think Mars antar dasa starting from 17th sep 09 to > 18th > > > april 10 will be more beneficial. > > > > > > > > The reasons was very simple and needs no explanation. > > > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > > Regards, > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Anand Jain > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > Of course, you are not even 100% absolutely right it is 1000% > > > correct as there is no other way to create the liquidity. > > > > > > > > > > Myself behind on the matter from last one year but could not get > > > appropriate buyer. > > > > > > > > > > With best of my regards > > > > > > > > > > Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > I will call u tomorrow over phone, u may give me a miss call > > > whenever u hv free time. > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > Re: what lagna should be > taken > > > for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:31 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > Please confirm whether this liquidity you are looking for, is > due > > > from > > > > > sale of property or not ? Or any other source. This is to > confirm > > > > > whether my observations are right or not. > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > If its from sale of property, then yes you have a good > chances. > > > > > > > > > > > > I normally charge a good amount for Birth rectification from > my > > > > > > clients. You have already saved that. > > > > > > > > > > > > You will appreciate that astrologers who can do Birth > > > rectification > > > > > > properly in india, can be counted on fingers, but apart from > me > > > none > > > > > of > > > > > > these will give you explanations for this, as I have done, and > > > always > > > > > do > > > > > > on these Groups so that others can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any further queries can be addressed to me on a professional > vein > > > . > > > > > You > > > > > > will appreciate that Astrology being my profession and having > a > > > family > > > > > > to look after, my duties lie towards professionalism too. > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anand Jain > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no words for thanks as you have devoted valueable > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, If U don't mind and hv some time for me, is there any > clue > > > for > > > > > > betterment for me or expecting any huge liquidity before > > > 18.7.2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna should > be > > > taken > > > > > for > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 8:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I took up Your case for judgement at 9th Jul 2009 , that was > > > > > yesterday > > > > > > at Bombay in evening at 18.21.08 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what is the Ruling Planets Theory. > > > > > > > Whenever an astrologer sincerely wishes to confirm some data > > > > > available > > > > > > before him, and does not have any further inputs, then the > Divine > > > > > > Configurations of the stars in the sky come to his rescue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is to be done here. > > > > > > > One must note at time of judgement what is the prevailing > Lagna > > > > > Lord, > > > > > > Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day Lord. This is > known > > > as > > > > > > LSRD. > > > > > > > At time of judgement taken by me, the Lagna was Sagittarius, > > > Moon > > > > > Star > > > > > > was Uttarasadha, Moon Raashi was Capricorn, and the Day was > > > Wednesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So taking all the Lords of these points we have the LSRD as > > > Jupiter, > > > > > > The Sun, Saturn and Mercury. There is a rule that if Rahu or > Ketu > > > > > > occupies the raashi iof any of these Lords, then one must > change > > > the > > > > > > Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently occupying Capricorn owned > by > > > > > > Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the New LSRD is Jupiter, The Sun, Rahu and Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one check whether the Lagna arrived at the recorded > > > Birth > > > > > > time is correct ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra Lord and the Sub > Lord > > > > > > planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that the recorded > time > > > is > > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With your given birth time of 19.30 at Delhi Birth, on 14th > > > October > > > > > > 1960 the Lagna arrived at was Taurus 00.04.43 using KP > Ayanamsha > > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord was The Sun and the Sub Lord was Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we have Sun and Rahu both in our LSRD at time of > judgement > > > in > > > > > > Bombay we accept that the Birth time is correct. (Though > whether > > > to > > > > > take > > > > > > Aries or Taurus Lagna was still not solved, at least I knew > from > > > above > > > > > > xcersise, that your time of Birth was nearly right and not > many > > > > > minutes > > > > > > apart). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I faced 2 more problems which made me study further - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1st problem - Using Taurus Lagna when I tried to match the > > > events of > > > > > > your Life. Nothing matched. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd problem - When the events did not match. I was in a > > > quandary. I > > > > > > checked the minute divisions of the degrees and realised that > from > > > > > > 29.13.20 degrees of Aries uptil 01.13.20 degrees of Taurus, > the > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord and the SubLord would remain same. In simple > > > language > > > > > > this means that you could have born about 3 minutes before > close > > > of > > > > > > Mesha Lagna and 3 minutes after close of Mesha Lagna, yet Star > > > lord > > > > > and > > > > > > Sub lord would still remain same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I made one more additional Horary chart to recheck this > (This is > > > a > > > > > > advanced technique . Cannot write here because many will not > > > > > understand > > > > > > and to make one understand I will have to write another page > and > > > > > > everyone will get confused with so much at a time) and found > Mars > > > was > > > > > > figuring in the prominent planets. This gave me a clue and > went > > > ahead > > > > > > and fixed the Birth time as 19.29.30 without meddling too much > > > with > > > > > the > > > > > > recorded time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna arrived at is,Aries 29.56.02 Star Lord and Sub > > > Lord > > > > > > remain same as in previous birth time of 19.30.00 IST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now to match the events - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage on 23.11.85 Venus-Venus . Venus signifies the > houses > > > 2 > > > > > > and 7 required to be activated primarily for marriage. If You > have > > > a > > > > > > software which shows the significators, then note that Venus > is > > > the > > > > > only > > > > > > planet among the 9 Planets in your chart, which shows the > SubLord > > > > > again > > > > > > as Venus signifying, 2,7 and 9. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) First daughter 16.12.1986 Venus - Sun. The Sun signifies > the > > > 5th > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Second daughter 21.09.1988 Venus-Moon-Sun. mars about to > > > enter on > > > > > > 3rd October 1988. Both Sun and Mars signify the 5th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Father expired on 10.8.1990 Rahu amongst other houses > > > signifies > > > > > the > > > > > > 8th and 9th house too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will not get the above matching by Taurus Lagna at all, > by > > > > > > whatever stretch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope my time spent is of use to You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already done some work on this. But before we move > > > further > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > you pl. call me on my cell number 9323522663, so that I > could > > > > > spend > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > time on same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anand > Jain > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful manner, as u r explaining to us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.10.1960 19.30 Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married on 23.11.85 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first daughter 16.12.1986 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd daughter 21.9.1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father expired 10.8.1990 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Detained by Custom officials on 29.12.1990 and case > > > finalised on > > > > > > > > 19.4.2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna > should > > > be > > > > > > taken for > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 8 July, 2009, 6:19 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If You are using KP ayanamsha then it will the same > Lagna. > > > If > > > > > you > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > using Lahiris or Ramans then there may be a doubt of the > > > Lagna. > > > > > > (This > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > presuming that your time of Birth is accurate). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But before that there is a process known as Ruling > Planets > > > > > theory > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > will help you guide to the right Lagna. If You put the > birth > > > > > > details > > > > > > > > > here, I will make a Live example of this process so all > > > those > > > > > who > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > not familiar with this can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also put a few incindets from your Life, marriage date > (If > > > You > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > married, childrens birth date,) date of employment etc. > > > whatever > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > incidents you remember, limiting it to 5 , so that the > mail > > > does > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > too long . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > > " swarup1068 " > > > > > > > > > <swarup1068@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will u pl clarify, if horoscope of any native shows > the > > > lagna > > > > > > degree > > > > > > > > > of 00:01, what lagna should be taken for prediction > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand jain ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls remov ur phone Numbr along with posts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds Team grp managemnt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer > > > Internet > > > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo > rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like > you. > > > Check > > > > > > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Dear Members, On KP astrology and birth-rectification techniques, the following sites can give more information : http://www.prashna-astrology.com/resources/Rectification+of+Birth+Time+Using+KP+\ by+Raghunatha+Rao+Nemani.PDF This site is of Shri Rahunatha Rao Nemani well versed in traditional astrology and KP astrology. http://www.jupitersweb.com/kp_rectification%20of%20birth%20time%20 & %20ruling%20p\ lanets.htm This article gives more description on what Shri Bhaskerji has presented earlier. Their is one more advance technique i read earlier, but unable to find now. Those who are interested in KP astrology these sites will prove very much helpful. Thankyou, Best Wishes, Vijay Goel Jaipur. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > I am not convinced by this explanation. What you have given is only the > position and placement of the planets and their aspects on each other . > Where is the logic part ? > > As regards to My KP Method. There is nothing like yours and mines. KP > has come from Parashari so nothing strange or unknown quality about it. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > , " Vijay Goel " > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > your quote : > > ////when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from some > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now ? This is > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, so that > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as the logs " .//// > > > > You may be right, ha ha but i have not denied your hard work, i > have given my views based on your conclusion, whats wrong in it? > > > > You find moon antar better, its your KP method; i find mars antar > better in terms of property matter, its my view. > > > > Reasons : > > In D-1 chart : > > Moon is in 3H in karka in papkartari yoga aspected by none. > > In D-9: > > Moon in 12H as 7L aspected by venus as 10L & 5L. > > In D-4 : > > Moon in 9H in papkartari yoga aspected by venus and mercury. Here > position improves for property related matters. > > > > In all three chart, involvement of 4th house is negligible so property > related matters will hardly fructify, only in D-4 chart, 2nd house is > involved. If we observe moon in D-10 chart than this antar of moon will > bring lot of hard work and short travels related to career and > profession. > > > > Now look at mars: > > D-1: > > Mars in 2nd house aspected by saturn and jupiter. saturn is aspecting > sun the 4L. > > D-9: > > mars is 4L in 3H aspected by saturn (2L) ans sun. > > D-4: > > Mars with jupiter in 8H aspecting 2H and sun as 4L is aspecting mars > > from 2H. > > > > In all above chart it is clear that mars has more linkage to 4th and > 2H related matters.Hence i find it more appropriate. > > > > ************ > > > > Thankyou, > > Regards, > > Vijay Goel > > Jaipur. > > If any person want to have any peaceful discussion on this matter or > have any doubts he\she can call me on my mobile or email me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goelji, > > > > > > Shri KN Rao ji has written much. Which of his teachings impies that > the > > > Lagna is Vrishabha and not Mesha. > > > > > > Why will Moon antardasha not appropriate for selling property ? The > > > reasons - Astrological? Why dpo you think that the Mars dasha would > be > > > more beneficial ? The reasons ? - Astrological ? > > > > > > Why are the reasons very simple and need no explanations. I cannot > > > understand this simplicity. Can You explain ? > > > > > > And where were you when all this was discussed uptil now. You come > back, > > > when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from some > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now ? This > is > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, so that > > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as the logs " . > > > > > > Mars antar is going to be a very malefic period for him . What > rubbish > > > are you talking that it will be beneficial. Do you know even the > basics > > > of astrology ? > > > > > > After the story of Ramayana has been heard by people, You are now > > > talking " I will tell you who is Ram and Sita " . > > > > > > Please explain us what is simple which needs no explanation ? > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji Jain, > > > > > > > > I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on the birth details > of > > > your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his various books. > > > > > > > > Now in your horoscope the antar of moon is running. > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa: > > > > > > > > Moon MD: 2008-11-17 - 2018-11-17 > > > > > > > > Antardasas in this MD: > > > > > > > > Moon: 2008-11-17 - 2009-09-17 > > > > Mars: 2009-09-17 - 2010-04-18 > > > > > > > > But i don't find Moon antar dasa appropriate for selling of > property, > > > this antar will not fetch you a good buyer instead it will create > lot of > > > frustration. I think Mars antar dasa starting from 17th sep 09 to > 18th > > > april 10 will be more beneficial. > > > > > > > > The reasons was very simple and needs no explanation. > > > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > > Regards, > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Anand Jain > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > Of course, you are not even 100% absolutely right it is 1000% > > > correct as there is no other way to create the liquidity. > > > > > > > > > > Myself behind on the matter from last one year but could not get > > > appropriate buyer. > > > > > > > > > > With best of my regards > > > > > > > > > > Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > I will call u tomorrow over phone, u may give me a miss call > > > whenever u hv free time. > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > Re: what lagna should be > taken > > > for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:31 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > Please confirm whether this liquidity you are looking for, is > due > > > from > > > > > sale of property or not ? Or any other source. This is to > confirm > > > > > whether my observations are right or not. > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > If its from sale of property, then yes you have a good > chances. > > > > > > > > > > > > I normally charge a good amount for Birth rectification from > my > > > > > > clients. You have already saved that. > > > > > > > > > > > > You will appreciate that astrologers who can do Birth > > > rectification > > > > > > properly in india, can be counted on fingers, but apart from > me > > > none > > > > > of > > > > > > these will give you explanations for this, as I have done, and > > > always > > > > > do > > > > > > on these Groups so that others can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any further queries can be addressed to me on a professional > vein > > > . > > > > > You > > > > > > will appreciate that Astrology being my profession and having > a > > > family > > > > > > to look after, my duties lie towards professionalism too. > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anand Jain > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no words for thanks as you have devoted valueable > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, If U don't mind and hv some time for me, is there any > clue > > > for > > > > > > betterment for me or expecting any huge liquidity before > > > 18.7.2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna should > be > > > taken > > > > > for > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 8:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I took up Your case for judgement at 9th Jul 2009 , that was > > > > > yesterday > > > > > > at Bombay in evening at 18.21.08 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what is the Ruling Planets Theory. > > > > > > > Whenever an astrologer sincerely wishes to confirm some data > > > > > available > > > > > > before him, and does not have any further inputs, then the > Divine > > > > > > Configurations of the stars in the sky come to his rescue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is to be done here. > > > > > > > One must note at time of judgement what is the prevailing > Lagna > > > > > Lord, > > > > > > Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day Lord. This is > known > > > as > > > > > > LSRD. > > > > > > > At time of judgement taken by me, the Lagna was Sagittarius, > > > Moon > > > > > Star > > > > > > was Uttarasadha, Moon Raashi was Capricorn, and the Day was > > > Wednesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So taking all the Lords of these points we have the LSRD as > > > Jupiter, > > > > > > The Sun, Saturn and Mercury. There is a rule that if Rahu or > Ketu > > > > > > occupies the raashi iof any of these Lords, then one must > change > > > the > > > > > > Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently occupying Capricorn owned > by > > > > > > Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the New LSRD is Jupiter, The Sun, Rahu and Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one check whether the Lagna arrived at the recorded > > > Birth > > > > > > time is correct ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra Lord and the Sub > Lord > > > > > > planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that the recorded > time > > > is > > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With your given birth time of 19.30 at Delhi Birth, on 14th > > > October > > > > > > 1960 the Lagna arrived at was Taurus 00.04.43 using KP > Ayanamsha > > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord was The Sun and the Sub Lord was Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we have Sun and Rahu both in our LSRD at time of > judgement > > > in > > > > > > Bombay we accept that the Birth time is correct. (Though > whether > > > to > > > > > take > > > > > > Aries or Taurus Lagna was still not solved, at least I knew > from > > > above > > > > > > xcersise, that your time of Birth was nearly right and not > many > > > > > minutes > > > > > > apart). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I faced 2 more problems which made me study further - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1st problem - Using Taurus Lagna when I tried to match the > > > events of > > > > > > your Life. Nothing matched. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd problem - When the events did not match. I was in a > > > quandary. I > > > > > > checked the minute divisions of the degrees and realised that > from > > > > > > 29.13.20 degrees of Aries uptil 01.13.20 degrees of Taurus, > the > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord and the SubLord would remain same. In simple > > > language > > > > > > this means that you could have born about 3 minutes before > close > > > of > > > > > > Mesha Lagna and 3 minutes after close of Mesha Lagna, yet Star > > > lord > > > > > and > > > > > > Sub lord would still remain same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I made one more additional Horary chart to recheck this > (This is > > > a > > > > > > advanced technique . Cannot write here because many will not > > > > > understand > > > > > > and to make one understand I will have to write another page > and > > > > > > everyone will get confused with so much at a time) and found > Mars > > > was > > > > > > figuring in the prominent planets. This gave me a clue and > went > > > ahead > > > > > > and fixed the Birth time as 19.29.30 without meddling too much > > > with > > > > > the > > > > > > recorded time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna arrived at is,Aries 29.56.02 Star Lord and Sub > > > Lord > > > > > > remain same as in previous birth time of 19.30.00 IST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now to match the events - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage on 23.11.85 Venus-Venus . Venus signifies the > houses > > > 2 > > > > > > and 7 required to be activated primarily for marriage. If You > have > > > a > > > > > > software which shows the significators, then note that Venus > is > > > the > > > > > only > > > > > > planet among the 9 Planets in your chart, which shows the > SubLord > > > > > again > > > > > > as Venus signifying, 2,7 and 9. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) First daughter 16.12.1986 Venus - Sun. The Sun signifies > the > > > 5th > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Second daughter 21.09.1988 Venus-Moon-Sun. mars about to > > > enter on > > > > > > 3rd October 1988. Both Sun and Mars signify the 5th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Father expired on 10.8.1990 Rahu amongst other houses > > > signifies > > > > > the > > > > > > 8th and 9th house too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will not get the above matching by Taurus Lagna at all, > by > > > > > > whatever stretch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope my time spent is of use to You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already done some work on this. But before we move > > > further > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > you pl. call me on my cell number 9323522663, so that I > could > > > > > spend > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > time on same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anand > Jain > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful manner, as u r explaining to us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.10.1960 19.30 Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married on 23.11.85 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first daughter 16.12.1986 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd daughter 21.9.1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father expired 10.8.1990 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Detained by Custom officials on 29.12.1990 and case > > > finalised on > > > > > > > > 19.4.2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna > should > > > be > > > > > > taken for > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 8 July, 2009, 6:19 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If You are using KP ayanamsha then it will the same > Lagna. > > > If > > > > > you > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > using Lahiris or Ramans then there may be a doubt of the > > > Lagna. > > > > > > (This > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > presuming that your time of Birth is accurate). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But before that there is a process known as Ruling > Planets > > > > > theory > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > will help you guide to the right Lagna. If You put the > birth > > > > > > details > > > > > > > > > here, I will make a Live example of this process so all > > > those > > > > > who > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > not familiar with this can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also put a few incindets from your Life, marriage date > (If > > > You > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > married, childrens birth date,) date of employment etc. > > > whatever > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > incidents you remember, limiting it to 5 , so that the > mail > > > does > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > too long . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > > " swarup1068 " > > > > > > > > > <swarup1068@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will u pl clarify, if horoscope of any native shows > the > > > lagna > > > > > > degree > > > > > > > > > of 00:01, what lagna should be taken for prediction > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand jain ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls remov ur phone Numbr along with posts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds Team grp managemnt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer > > > Internet > > > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo > rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like > you. > > > Check > > > > > > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Respected Members, Birth time rectification technique was seriously discussed by Sreenadhji in year 2005 in astrological forum. I have just found his mail in my records files which i am reproducing here for the benefit of all: *********************** Dear Members, I have seen many asking and arguing on the birth time rectification methods. One shouldn't run away from such vital questions. Let me share my humble understanding on the subject. I have searched the classics and other books and this is what I could find. What is birth time? ------------------ 1) If Seerishodaya sign - head, if Prishtodaya sign - feet, if Ubhayodaya sign - hand. i.e. The coming out of head, feet or hand could be considered as the time of birth accordingly considering the Asc sign at birth time. (One sloka in Saravali supports this view) 2) Time of Garbhodhodaka Sruthi - breaking time of placenta. (Brihat sounaka hora) 3) The coming out of head, feet or hand could be considered as the time of birth irrespective of the Asc sign at birth time. (Garga jathakam) 4) The time of cutting of Umbilical cord (No classics supports this view) 5) The time of first breath (No classics supports this view) 6) The time of first cry (No classics supports this view) 7) Adhana time (Saravali and Lakhujathakam supports this view) 8) Laladodayam - The time at which forehead of the child is seen (Saravali) 9) Bhoosparsa - The time at which the child touches the earth (Saravali) 10) Any time that is tightly related to the person can be taken to predict his future - conclusion drawn by considering all the above views. (There are systems for predicting future by considering the first menses period and the time of marriage. This also supports this view) Mathematical methods to correct birth time --------- 1) Kunda Multiplication method - Asc x 81 (Presnamarga, Presnareethi, Varaha hora, Sounaka hora) 2) Navamsa Dwadesamsa method - Asc x 108 (Varaha hora, Brihath prajapathyam) 3) Navamsa - Asc x 9 (Sounaka hora) 4) Dwadesamsa - Asc x 12 (Brihath prajapathyam) 5) Varga Chathushtaya - Joined use of methods 1-2-3-4. (Presnamarga, Presnarathna, Skanda hora) 6) Pancha Boothodaya - Pancha tatwa method (Yanjcha valkya smrithi, Regular use of this theory by ancient astrologers, Some slokas in Uthara kalamritha also initiates thoughts in these lines) 7) Use of nirayana longitude of Sun - It is long calculation method (Presnamarga) 8) Ghati-vighati at birth time - It is also another calculation method (Uthara kalamritha) 9) Sookshma hora - Asc x 972 (Presnasara, One sloka of Saravali is also at times quoted as supportive of this) 10) Nadi system - Method not clearly stated (Chandrakala nadi, Sphujidhwaja hora also initiates thoughts in these lines) Met hods to verify whether Asc is correct ------- 1) Using Gulika (Presnarathna, Presna samgraha, Jathaka parijatha, Presnasara, Phaladeepika) 2) Using Pranapada (Jyothisha Rathnakaram) 3) Using Mandi (Jathaka parijatha, Brihath jathaka padhathi, Phaladeepika, Uthara kalamritham) 4) Using Trisputa (Presnamarga) This is the essence of what I could find. i.e. Totally there are 10 arguments as to what is birth time, of which the 10th is the most acceptable one. 10 methods for birth time rectification and 4 methods for cross checking and verifying whether Asc sign is correct. Of the birth time rectification methods Varga chathushtaya method is the most supported one by classics. Even though there is not slokas that supports Pancha tatwa method it some how gets special reputation by the learned scholars (for example both PVR and Chandrahari are supportive of this method) As an elaborate discussion of all these methods will take much time, space and effort, I humbly request the learned scholars who are well versed in any of these methods to explain each in detail, for the benefit of others. Concerning Kunda calculation I have explained my views earlier, and certainly ready to share my thoughts on other methods as time permits, if many are ready to share this effort of explaining all these methods to the benefit of learners and seekers. With warm regards, Sreenadh ************************ Few of the above methods described above has be elaborately explained by Shri Sanjay Rath and his disciples (like kunda, PP, Gulika,.. ). I have also tried the method given in book " nastha jatakam " as explained by Shri Sanjay Rath ji lectures and found effective. ********************* Thankyou, Regards, Vijay Goel Jaipur , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj wrote: > > Respected Neelamji, Renuji, > > Actually i am using the principles as explained by Shri K N Rao in his book " Planet and children " . > He has explained how saturn, jupiter, mars and moon transits in native charts brings child birth. In 1997-98 i have attended the lectures of him as our routine studies. > > What i have done is reverse engineering ie from the data of child , correct the janma lagna of parents, many articles on this reverse engineering has appeared in journal of astrology. > > I never do horoscope reading for my clients unless i get satisfied with the correction of the horoscope. > > Just for example , Today i got the birth details from a client who resides in delhi on phone. > Female : > July 11, 1981 > Time: 10:35:00 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 77 E 33' 00 " , 29 N 58' 00 " > Saharanpur, India > > Her lagna changes in 41 secs. > > The birth details of her son is : > November 15, 2005 > Time: 7:14:00 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 77 E 13' 00 " , 28 N 40' 00 " > Delhi, India > > Now from the chart of her son and by reverse engineering technique as discussed in the book " planet and children " > > I corrected the mother chart as > > July 11, 1981 > Time: 10:34:19 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 77 E 33' 00 " , 29 N 58' 00 " > Saharanpur, India > > Than i checked the marriage timings and other incidents as per our parashari teaching and found to to more appropriate when checked with divisional charts. > > First fix the lagna than correct the divisional chart is my method. > > Shri K n Rao has given many many hints in his writings to correct the divisional chart with incidents. > > The method as discussed by Bhaskerji is good if we practice KP astrology where i think divisional chart does not have any importance, (more explanation can be given by Bhaskerji himself). > Secondly Bhaskerji method is based on Prashna technique which does not requires any past incident information. > > I think Bhaskerji is in the bad habit of shouting and shouting, as seen in 75% of his mails. > He is also in the habit of mixing KP astrology with parashari astrology. > The lagna correction made by him is based on KP ayanamsha whereas mostly we are working with lahiri ayanamsha. > He is right in his writings and i appreciate it, i had not denied his explanation but why he is shouting like a mad man. > I have put forte my views in the example taken by him and he should not have any objection in it. > > > Thankyou, > Regards, > Vijay Goel > Jaipur. > > > , " renunw " <renunw@> wrote: > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > Quoting Neelam ji, > > > > //You have referred to KNRs methods, which many of us here would be > > familiar with and the rest would like to learn. // > > > > I belong to the highlighted sector...hence awaiting anxiously to grasp > > something new. > > > > Hope you will oblige.....thanks. > > > > blessings, > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , neelam gupta > > <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > > > Kindly explain the basis of your judgment. I think the demand is > > justified. > > > There are various methods of BT correction, they might give different > > > results. Even the same method may give difference of outcome in > > different > > > hands. But the method should be clear and understandable. You have > > referred > > > to KNRs methods, which many of us here would be familiar with and the > > rest > > > would like to learn. > > > > > > We hope you'll soon substantiate your statements. > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/7/10 Souvik Dutta explore_vulcan@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > I have had differences with Bhaskar-ji in the past and may even have > > so in > > > > the future but I completely agree with Bhaskar-ji here. > > > > > > > > We are an open group, so if someone wants to refute the Ruling > > Planet > > > > theory and the birth time correction method detailed by Bhaskar-ji > > > > (brilliantly I must add), I would really love to learn his/her > > method. > > > > > > > > I am very detached on cyber-groups so please do not take this mail > > > > personally. > > > > > > > > Knowledge is the only thing that matters to me, nothing else. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > <%40yaho\ > > ogroups.com>, > > > > " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > This is not a normal Group like J.Ganga or J.Remedies where one > > picks up > > > > > Queries and keeps answering them. This is a serious astrology > > group > > > > > which I consider exclusive and enjoy being present in, due to free > > > > > speech allowed, democratic set up and incessant flow of knowledge > > > > > flowing around with great intelligent members. At such times, when > > a > > > > > member writes enquiring about his Lagna which is at border, and we > > > > > answer him with a detailed logical analysis, and then some other > > > > > astrologer(?) comes in suddenly at the end time of the thread and > > talks > > > > > contrary to what has been concluded, then it is a normal protocol, > > > > > unwritten, but well understood in an assembly of intelligent > > members, > > > > > that he is supposed to support his contradictory claims with > > logical > > > > > analysis given in counter argument. One cannot say that " I think > > the > > > > > Lagna will be this " , " I feel the next antardasha will be > > beneficial " , > > > > > " This is too simple to explain " . It is unacceptable . I request > > that > > > > > the members take note of this, and call for an analysis from this > > > > > member, when I have already presented my side with supported > > analysis, > > > > > and so has another member with his Lagna Sphuta mail. But in this > > > > > case this member only " thinks " but has nothing to present in > > support of > > > > > his thinking. Shri KN Rao Sahab's name has been taken to support > > and > > > > > give some credence to his thinking, but no palpable logic > > alongside is > > > > > given. This is outright ridiculous. regards, Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > <%40yaho\ > > ogroups.com>, > > > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We would like to hear your explanations on why the Lagna must be > > taken > > > > > > as Vrishabha only and not as Mesha. > > > > > > > > > > > > What appears simple to you, may not be as simple actually. > > Please > > > > > > explain us why you think the way you do. > > > > > > > > > > > > I heard from someone that you are a astrologer or at least claim > > to > > > > > say > > > > > > so. I also heard that you have a website offering services for > > same. I > > > > > > may be wrong. Then you may correct me. I would like to see the > > > > > astrology > > > > > > part coming from you, rather than surmises and thoughts or what > > you > > > > > > think. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > <%40yaho\ > > ogroups.com>, > > > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goelji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri KN Rao ji has written much. Which of his teachings impies > > that > > > > > > the > > > > > > > Lagna is Vrishabha and not Mesha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why will Moon antardasha not appropriate for selling property > > ? The > > > > > > > reasons - Astrological? Why dpo you think that the Mars dasha > > would > > > > > be > > > > > > > more beneficial ? The reasons ? - Astrological ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why are the reasons very simple and need no explanations. I > > cannot > > > > > > > understand this simplicity. Can You explain ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And where were you when all this was discussed uptil now. You > > come > > > > > > back, > > > > > > > when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from > > some > > > > > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now ? > > This > > > > > is > > > > > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, so > > that > > > > > > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as the > > logs " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars antar is going to be a very malefic period for him . What > > > > > rubbish > > > > > > > are you talking that it will be beneficial. Do you know even > > the > > > > > > basics > > > > > > > of astrology ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After the story of Ramayana has been heard by people, You are > > now > > > > > > > talking " I will tell you who is Ram and Sita " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please explain us what is simple which needs no explanation ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > <%40yaho\ > > ogroups.com>, > > > > " Vijay Goel " > > > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji Jain, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on the birth > > details > > > > > of > > > > > > > your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his various books. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now in your horoscope the antar of moon is running. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon MD: 2008-11-17 - 2018-11-17 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Antardasas in this MD: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon: 2008-11-17 - 2009-09-17 > > > > > > > > Mars: 2009-09-17 - 2010-04-18 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But i don't find Moon antar dasa appropriate for selling of > > > > > > property, > > > > > > > this antar will not fetch you a good buyer instead it will > > create > > > > > lot > > > > > > of > > > > > > > frustration. I think Mars antar dasa starting from 17th sep 09 > > to > > > > > 18th > > > > > > > april 10 will be more beneficial. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The reasons was very simple and needs no explanation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > <%40yaho\ > > ogroups.com>, > > > > Anand Jain > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, you are not even 100% absolutely right it is > > 1000% > > > > > > > correct as there is no other way to create the liquidity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Myself behind on the matter from last one year but could > > not get > > > > > > > appropriate buyer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With best of my regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will call u tomorrow over phone, u may give me a miss > > call > > > > > > > whenever u hv free time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > Re: what lagna should > > be > > > > > taken > > > > > > > for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > To: > > <%40yaho\ > > ogroups.com> > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:31 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please confirm whether this liquidity you are looking for, > > is > > > > > due > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > sale of property or not ? Or any other source. This is to > > > > > confirm > > > > > > > > > whether my observations are right or not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If its from sale of property, then yes you have a good > > > > > chances. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I normally charge a good amount for Birth rectification > > from > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > clients. You have already saved that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will appreciate that astrologers who can do Birth > > > > > > > rectification > > > > > > > > > > properly in india, can be counted on fingers, but apart > > from > > > > > me > > > > > > > none > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > these will give you explanations for this, as I have > > done, and > > > > > > > always > > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > on these Groups so that others can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any further queries can be addressed to me on a > > professional > > > > > > vein > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > > > will appreciate that Astrology being my profession and > > having > > > > > a > > > > > > > family > > > > > > > > > > to look after, my duties lie towards professionalism > > too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no words for thanks as you have devoted > > valueable > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, If U don't mind and hv some time for me, is there > > any > > > > > > clue > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > betterment for me or expecting any huge liquidity before > > > > > > > 18.7.2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna > > should > > > > > be > > > > > > > taken > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 8:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I took up Your case for judgement at 9th Jul 2009 , > > that was > > > > > > > > > yesterday > > > > > > > > > > at Bombay in evening at 18.21.08 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what is the Ruling Planets Theory. > > > > > > > > > > > Whenever an astrologer sincerely wishes to confirm > > some data > > > > > > > > > available > > > > > > > > > > before him, and does not have any further inputs, then > > the > > > > > > Divine > > > > > > > > > > Configurations of the stars in the sky come to his > > rescue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is to be done here. > > > > > > > > > > > One must note at time of judgement what is the > > prevailing > > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > > > Lord, > > > > > > > > > > Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day Lord. This > > is > > > > > known > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > LSRD. > > > > > > > > > > > At time of judgement taken by me, the Lagna was > > Sagittarius, > > > > > > > Moon > > > > > > > > > Star > > > > > > > > > > was Uttarasadha, Moon Raashi was Capricorn, and the Day > > was > > > > > > > Wednesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So taking all the Lords of these points we have the > > LSRD as > > > > > > > Jupiter, > > > > > > > > > > The Sun, Saturn and Mercury. There is a rule that if > > Rahu or > > > > > > Ketu > > > > > > > > > > occupies the raashi iof any of these Lords, then one > > must > > > > > change > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently occupying Capricorn > > owned > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the New LSRD is Jupiter, The Sun, Rahu and > > Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one check whether the Lagna arrived at the > > recorded > > > > > > > Birth > > > > > > > > > > time is correct ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra Lord and > > the Sub > > > > > > Lord > > > > > > > > > > planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that the > > recorded > > > > > time > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With your given birth time of 19.30 at Delhi Birth, on > > 14th > > > > > > > October > > > > > > > > > > 1960 the Lagna arrived at was Taurus 00.04.43 using KP > > > > > Ayanamsha > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord was The Sun and the Sub Lord was Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we have Sun and Rahu both in our LSRD at time of > > > > > > judgement > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > Bombay we accept that the Birth time is correct. (Though > > > > > whether > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > take > > > > > > > > > > Aries or Taurus Lagna was still not solved, at least I > > knew > > > > > from > > > > > > > above > > > > > > > > > > xcersise, that your time of Birth was nearly right and > > not > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > minutes > > > > > > > > > > apart). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I faced 2 more problems which made me study > > further - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1st problem - Using Taurus Lagna when I tried to match > > the > > > > > > > events of > > > > > > > > > > your Life. Nothing matched. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd problem - When the events did not match. I was in > > a > > > > > > > quandary. I > > > > > > > > > > checked the minute divisions of the degrees and realised > > that > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > 29.13.20 degrees of Aries uptil 01.13.20 degrees of > > Taurus, > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord and the SubLord would remain same. In > > simple > > > > > > > language > > > > > > > > > > this means that you could have born about 3 minutes > > before > > > > > close > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > Mesha Lagna and 3 minutes after close of Mesha Lagna, > > yet Star > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > Sub lord would still remain same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I made one more additional Horary chart to recheck > > this > > > > > (This > > > > > > is > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > advanced technique . Cannot write here because many will > > not > > > > > > > > > understand > > > > > > > > > > and to make one understand I will have to write another > > page > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > everyone will get confused with so much at a time) and > > found > > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > figuring in the prominent planets. This gave me a clue > > and > > > > > went > > > > > > > ahead > > > > > > > > > > and fixed the Birth time as 19.29.30 without meddling > > too much > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > recorded time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna arrived at is,Aries 29.56.02 Star Lord > > and Sub > > > > > > > Lord > > > > > > > > > > remain same as in previous birth time of 19.30.00 IST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now to match the events - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage on 23.11.85 Venus-Venus . Venus signifies > > the > > > > > > houses > > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > > and 7 required to be activated primarily for marriage. > > If You > > > > > > have > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > software which shows the significators, then note that > > Venus > > > > > is > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > planet among the 9 Planets in your chart, which shows > > the > > > > > > SubLord > > > > > > > > > again > > > > > > > > > > as Venus signifying, 2,7 and 9. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) First daughter 16.12.1986 Venus - Sun. The Sun > > signifies > > > > > > the > > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Second daughter 21.09.1988 Venus-Moon-Sun. mars > > about to > > > > > > > enter on > > > > > > > > > > 3rd October 1988. Both Sun and Mars signify the 5th > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Father expired on 10.8.1990 Rahu amongst other > > houses > > > > > > > signifies > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > 8th and 9th house too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will not get the above matching by Taurus Lagna at > > all, > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > whatever stretch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope my time spent is of use to You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > > > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already done some work on this. But before we > > move > > > > > > > further > > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > > you pl. call me on my cell number 9323522663, so > > that I > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > spend > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > time on same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > Anand > > > > > > Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful manner, as u r explaining to us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.10.1960 19.30 Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married on 23.11.85 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first daughter 16.12.1986 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd daughter 21.9.1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father expired 10.8.1990 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Detained by Custom officials on 29.12.1990 and > > case > > > > > > > finalised on > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.4.2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what > > lagna > > > > > should > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > taken for > > > > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 8 July, 2009, 6:19 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If You are using KP ayanamsha then it will the > > same > > > > > Lagna. > > > > > > > If > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > using Lahiris or Ramans then there may be a doubt > > of the > > > > > > > Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > (This > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > presuming that your time of Birth is accurate). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But before that there is a process known as Ruling > > > > > Planets > > > > > > > > > theory > > > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > > will help you guide to the right Lagna. If You put > > the > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > details > > > > > > > > > > > > > here, I will make a Live example of this process > > so all > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > not familiar with this can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also put a few incindets from your Life, marriage > > date > > > > > (If > > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > married, childrens birth date,) date of employment > > etc. > > > > > > > whatever > > > > > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > > > > > incidents you remember, limiting it to 5 , so that > > the > > > > > > mail > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > > too long . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > > com, > > > > > > > " swarup1068 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <swarup1068@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will u pl clarify, if horoscope of any native > > shows > > > > > the > > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > > > degree > > > > > > > > > > > > > of 00:01, what lagna should be taken for > > prediction > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand jain ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls remov ur phone Numbr along with posts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds Team grp managemnt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and > > safer > > > > > > > Internet > > > > > > > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads. / > > in/internetexplo > > > > > > rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people > > like > > > > > you. > > > > > > > Check > > > > > > > > > > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer > > Internet > > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Dear Vijay ji, No I was not sure actually whether you are in Jaipur or not. just faintly remembered so. So I was confirming that by (?). Since you have given me your number and address, (I will be putting up very near to your address)I will wait for your call to invite me over for a cup of tea, but pyaar se bulaoge tab hi bulaana mujhe. Agar logon se " Madman " kar ke introduce karna hai, toh Bhai maaf karo. I hope this episode will be left behind when we meet. regards, Bhaskar. , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > your quote : > // " I am going to Jaipur (Your location?) " // > > I am at D-687, Near Gaurav Tower, Malviya Nagar, Jaipur. > My phone number is 9214502239. > > You are warmly welcome at Jaipur. I advise you to visit the Rishi Parashar Ashram located near to Sarika National park on Alwar route. > It is said that on that place Parashar stayed and done all his works. > > Thankyou, > Regards, > Vijay Goel > Jaipur. > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > I am not convinced by this explanation. What you have given is only the > > position and placement of the planets and their aspects on each other . > > Where is the logic part ? > > > > As regards to My KP Method. There is nothing like yours and mines. KP > > has come from Parashari so nothing strange or unknown quality about it. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > your quote : > > > ////when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from some > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now ? This is > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, so that > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as the logs " .//// > > > > > > You may be right, ha ha but i have not denied your hard work, i > > have given my views based on your conclusion, whats wrong in it? > > > > > > You find moon antar better, its your KP method; i find mars antar > > better in terms of property matter, its my view. > > > > > > Reasons : > > > In D-1 chart : > > > Moon is in 3H in karka in papkartari yoga aspected by none. > > > In D-9: > > > Moon in 12H as 7L aspected by venus as 10L & 5L. > > > In D-4 : > > > Moon in 9H in papkartari yoga aspected by venus and mercury. Here > > position improves for property related matters. > > > > > > In all three chart, involvement of 4th house is negligible so property > > related matters will hardly fructify, only in D-4 chart, 2nd house is > > involved. If we observe moon in D-10 chart than this antar of moon will > > bring lot of hard work and short travels related to career and > > profession. > > > > > > Now look at mars: > > > D-1: > > > Mars in 2nd house aspected by saturn and jupiter. saturn is aspecting > > sun the 4L. > > > D-9: > > > mars is 4L in 3H aspected by saturn (2L) ans sun. > > > D-4: > > > Mars with jupiter in 8H aspecting 2H and sun as 4L is aspecting mars > > > from 2H. > > > > > > In all above chart it is clear that mars has more linkage to 4th and > > 2H related matters.Hence i find it more appropriate. > > > > > > ************ > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > Regards, > > > Vijay Goel > > > Jaipur. > > > If any person want to have any peaceful discussion on this matter or > > have any doubts he\she can call me on my mobile or email me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goelji, > > > > > > > > Shri KN Rao ji has written much. Which of his teachings impies that > > the > > > > Lagna is Vrishabha and not Mesha. > > > > > > > > Why will Moon antardasha not appropriate for selling property ? The > > > > reasons - Astrological? Why dpo you think that the Mars dasha would > > be > > > > more beneficial ? The reasons ? - Astrological ? > > > > > > > > Why are the reasons very simple and need no explanations. I cannot > > > > understand this simplicity. Can You explain ? > > > > > > > > And where were you when all this was discussed uptil now. You come > > back, > > > > when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from some > > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now ? This > > is > > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, so that > > > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as the logs " . > > > > > > > > Mars antar is going to be a very malefic period for him . What > > rubbish > > > > are you talking that it will be beneficial. Do you know even the > > basics > > > > of astrology ? > > > > > > > > After the story of Ramayana has been heard by people, You are now > > > > talking " I will tell you who is Ram and Sita " . > > > > > > > > Please explain us what is simple which needs no explanation ? > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji Jain, > > > > > > > > > > I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on the birth details > > of > > > > your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his various books. > > > > > > > > > > Now in your horoscope the antar of moon is running. > > > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa: > > > > > > > > > > Moon MD: 2008-11-17 - 2018-11-17 > > > > > > > > > > Antardasas in this MD: > > > > > > > > > > Moon: 2008-11-17 - 2009-09-17 > > > > > Mars: 2009-09-17 - 2010-04-18 > > > > > > > > > > But i don't find Moon antar dasa appropriate for selling of > > property, > > > > this antar will not fetch you a good buyer instead it will create > > lot of > > > > frustration. I think Mars antar dasa starting from 17th sep 09 to > > 18th > > > > april 10 will be more beneficial. > > > > > > > > > > The reasons was very simple and needs no explanation. > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Anand Jain > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, you are not even 100% absolutely right it is 1000% > > > > correct as there is no other way to create the liquidity. > > > > > > > > > > > > Myself behind on the matter from last one year but could not get > > > > appropriate buyer. > > > > > > > > > > > > With best of my regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > I will call u tomorrow over phone, u may give me a miss call > > > > whenever u hv free time. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > Re: what lagna should be > > taken > > > > for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:31 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please confirm whether this liquidity you are looking for, is > > due > > > > from > > > > > > sale of property or not ? Or any other source. This is to > > confirm > > > > > > whether my observations are right or not. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If its from sale of property, then yes you have a good > > chances. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I normally charge a good amount for Birth rectification from > > my > > > > > > > clients. You have already saved that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will appreciate that astrologers who can do Birth > > > > rectification > > > > > > > properly in india, can be counted on fingers, but apart from > > me > > > > none > > > > > > of > > > > > > > these will give you explanations for this, as I have done, and > > > > always > > > > > > do > > > > > > > on these Groups so that others can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any further queries can be addressed to me on a professional > > vein > > > > . > > > > > > You > > > > > > > will appreciate that Astrology being my profession and having > > a > > > > family > > > > > > > to look after, my duties lie towards professionalism too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anand Jain > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no words for thanks as you have devoted valueable > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, If U don't mind and hv some time for me, is there any > > clue > > > > for > > > > > > > betterment for me or expecting any huge liquidity before > > > > 18.7.2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna should > > be > > > > taken > > > > > > for > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 8:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I took up Your case for judgement at 9th Jul 2009 , that was > > > > > > yesterday > > > > > > > at Bombay in evening at 18.21.08 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what is the Ruling Planets Theory. > > > > > > > > Whenever an astrologer sincerely wishes to confirm some data > > > > > > available > > > > > > > before him, and does not have any further inputs, then the > > Divine > > > > > > > Configurations of the stars in the sky come to his rescue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is to be done here. > > > > > > > > One must note at time of judgement what is the prevailing > > Lagna > > > > > > Lord, > > > > > > > Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day Lord. This is > > known > > > > as > > > > > > > LSRD. > > > > > > > > At time of judgement taken by me, the Lagna was Sagittarius, > > > > Moon > > > > > > Star > > > > > > > was Uttarasadha, Moon Raashi was Capricorn, and the Day was > > > > Wednesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So taking all the Lords of these points we have the LSRD as > > > > Jupiter, > > > > > > > The Sun, Saturn and Mercury. There is a rule that if Rahu or > > Ketu > > > > > > > occupies the raashi iof any of these Lords, then one must > > change > > > > the > > > > > > > Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently occupying Capricorn owned > > by > > > > > > > Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the New LSRD is Jupiter, The Sun, Rahu and Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one check whether the Lagna arrived at the recorded > > > > Birth > > > > > > > time is correct ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra Lord and the Sub > > Lord > > > > > > > planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that the recorded > > time > > > > is > > > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With your given birth time of 19.30 at Delhi Birth, on 14th > > > > October > > > > > > > 1960 the Lagna arrived at was Taurus 00.04.43 using KP > > Ayanamsha > > > > and > > > > > > the > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord was The Sun and the Sub Lord was Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we have Sun and Rahu both in our LSRD at time of > > judgement > > > > in > > > > > > > Bombay we accept that the Birth time is correct. (Though > > whether > > > > to > > > > > > take > > > > > > > Aries or Taurus Lagna was still not solved, at least I knew > > from > > > > above > > > > > > > xcersise, that your time of Birth was nearly right and not > > many > > > > > > minutes > > > > > > > apart). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I faced 2 more problems which made me study further - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1st problem - Using Taurus Lagna when I tried to match the > > > > events of > > > > > > > your Life. Nothing matched. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd problem - When the events did not match. I was in a > > > > quandary. I > > > > > > > checked the minute divisions of the degrees and realised that > > from > > > > > > > 29.13.20 degrees of Aries uptil 01.13.20 degrees of Taurus, > > the > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord and the SubLord would remain same. In simple > > > > language > > > > > > > this means that you could have born about 3 minutes before > > close > > > > of > > > > > > > Mesha Lagna and 3 minutes after close of Mesha Lagna, yet Star > > > > lord > > > > > > and > > > > > > > Sub lord would still remain same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I made one more additional Horary chart to recheck this > > (This is > > > > a > > > > > > > advanced technique . Cannot write here because many will not > > > > > > understand > > > > > > > and to make one understand I will have to write another page > > and > > > > > > > everyone will get confused with so much at a time) and found > > Mars > > > > was > > > > > > > figuring in the prominent planets. This gave me a clue and > > went > > > > ahead > > > > > > > and fixed the Birth time as 19.29.30 without meddling too much > > > > with > > > > > > the > > > > > > > recorded time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna arrived at is,Aries 29.56.02 Star Lord and Sub > > > > Lord > > > > > > > remain same as in previous birth time of 19.30.00 IST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now to match the events - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage on 23.11.85 Venus-Venus . Venus signifies the > > houses > > > > 2 > > > > > > > and 7 required to be activated primarily for marriage. If You > > have > > > > a > > > > > > > software which shows the significators, then note that Venus > > is > > > > the > > > > > > only > > > > > > > planet among the 9 Planets in your chart, which shows the > > SubLord > > > > > > again > > > > > > > as Venus signifying, 2,7 and 9. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) First daughter 16.12.1986 Venus - Sun. The Sun signifies > > the > > > > 5th > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Second daughter 21.09.1988 Venus-Moon-Sun. mars about to > > > > enter on > > > > > > > 3rd October 1988. Both Sun and Mars signify the 5th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Father expired on 10.8.1990 Rahu amongst other houses > > > > signifies > > > > > > the > > > > > > > 8th and 9th house too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will not get the above matching by Taurus Lagna at all, > > by > > > > > > > whatever stretch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope my time spent is of use to You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already done some work on this. But before we move > > > > further > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > you pl. call me on my cell number 9323522663, so that I > > could > > > > > > spend > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > time on same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anand > > Jain > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful manner, as u r explaining to us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.10.1960 19.30 Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married on 23.11.85 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first daughter 16.12.1986 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd daughter 21.9.1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father expired 10.8.1990 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Detained by Custom officials on 29.12.1990 and case > > > > finalised on > > > > > > > > > 19.4.2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna > > should > > > > be > > > > > > > taken for > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 8 July, 2009, 6:19 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If You are using KP ayanamsha then it will the same > > Lagna. > > > > If > > > > > > you > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > using Lahiris or Ramans then there may be a doubt of the > > > > Lagna. > > > > > > > (This > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > presuming that your time of Birth is accurate). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But before that there is a process known as Ruling > > Planets > > > > > > theory > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > will help you guide to the right Lagna. If You put the > > birth > > > > > > > details > > > > > > > > > > here, I will make a Live example of this process so all > > > > those > > > > > > who > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > not familiar with this can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also put a few incindets from your Life, marriage date > > (If > > > > You > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > married, childrens birth date,) date of employment etc. > > > > whatever > > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > > incidents you remember, limiting it to 5 , so that the > > mail > > > > does > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > too long . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > > > " swarup1068 " > > > > > > > > > > <swarup1068@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will u pl clarify, if horoscope of any native shows > > the > > > > lagna > > > > > > > degree > > > > > > > > > > of 00:01, what lagna should be taken for prediction > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand jain ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls remov ur phone Numbr along with posts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds Team grp managemnt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer > > > > Internet > > > > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo > > rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like > > you. > > > > Check > > > > > > > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Respected Bhaskerji, You are always respected as an well versed senior KP astrologer. It will be a great pleasure for me to have cup of tea with you. Thankyou, Regards, Vijay Goel Jaipur. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Vijay ji, > > No I was not sure actually whether you are in Jaipur or not. just > faintly remembered so. So I was confirming that by (?). > > Since you have given me your number and address, (I will be putting up > very near to your address)I will wait for your call to invite me over > for a cup of tea, but pyaar se bulaoge tab hi bulaana mujhe. Agar logon > se " Madman " kar ke introduce karna hai, toh Bhai maaf karo. > > I hope this episode will be left behind when we meet. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. , " Vijay Goel " > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > your quote : > > // " I am going to Jaipur (Your location?) " // > > > > I am at D-687, Near Gaurav Tower, Malviya Nagar, Jaipur. > > My phone number is 9214502239. > > > > You are warmly welcome at Jaipur. I advise you to visit the Rishi > Parashar Ashram located near to Sarika National park on Alwar route. > > It is said that on that place Parashar stayed and done all his works. > > > > Thankyou, > > Regards, > > Vijay Goel > > Jaipur. > > > > , " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > > > I am not convinced by this explanation. What you have given is only > the > > > position and placement of the planets and their aspects on each > other . > > > Where is the logic part ? > > > > > > As regards to My KP Method. There is nothing like yours and mines. > KP > > > has come from Parashari so nothing strange or unknown quality about > it. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > your quote : > > > > ////when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from > some > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now ? This > is > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, so that > > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as the > logs " .//// > > > > > > > > You may be right, ha ha but i have not denied your hard work, i > > > have given my views based on your conclusion, whats wrong in it? > > > > > > > > You find moon antar better, its your KP method; i find mars antar > > > better in terms of property matter, its my view. > > > > > > > > Reasons : > > > > In D-1 chart : > > > > Moon is in 3H in karka in papkartari yoga aspected by none. > > > > In D-9: > > > > Moon in 12H as 7L aspected by venus as 10L & 5L. > > > > In D-4 : > > > > Moon in 9H in papkartari yoga aspected by venus and mercury. Here > > > position improves for property related matters. > > > > > > > > In all three chart, involvement of 4th house is negligible so > property > > > related matters will hardly fructify, only in D-4 chart, 2nd house > is > > > involved. If we observe moon in D-10 chart than this antar of moon > will > > > bring lot of hard work and short travels related to career and > > > profession. > > > > > > > > Now look at mars: > > > > D-1: > > > > Mars in 2nd house aspected by saturn and jupiter. saturn is > aspecting > > > sun the 4L. > > > > D-9: > > > > mars is 4L in 3H aspected by saturn (2L) ans sun. > > > > D-4: > > > > Mars with jupiter in 8H aspecting 2H and sun as 4L is aspecting > mars > > > > from 2H. > > > > > > > > In all above chart it is clear that mars has more linkage to 4th > and > > > 2H related matters.Hence i find it more appropriate. > > > > > > > > ************ > > > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > > Regards, > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > Jaipur. > > > > If any person want to have any peaceful discussion on this matter > or > > > have any doubts he\she can call me on my mobile or email me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goelji, > > > > > > > > > > Shri KN Rao ji has written much. Which of his teachings impies > that > > > the > > > > > Lagna is Vrishabha and not Mesha. > > > > > > > > > > Why will Moon antardasha not appropriate for selling property ? > The > > > > > reasons - Astrological? Why dpo you think that the Mars dasha > would > > > be > > > > > more beneficial ? The reasons ? - Astrological ? > > > > > > > > > > Why are the reasons very simple and need no explanations. I > cannot > > > > > understand this simplicity. Can You explain ? > > > > > > > > > > And where were you when all this was discussed uptil now. You > come > > > back, > > > > > when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from some > > > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now ? > This > > > is > > > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, so > that > > > > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as the > logs " . > > > > > > > > > > Mars antar is going to be a very malefic period for him . What > > > rubbish > > > > > are you talking that it will be beneficial. Do you know even the > > > basics > > > > > of astrology ? > > > > > > > > > > After the story of Ramayana has been heard by people, You are > now > > > > > talking " I will tell you who is Ram and Sita " . > > > > > > > > > > Please explain us what is simple which needs no explanation ? > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji Jain, > > > > > > > > > > > > I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on the birth > details > > > of > > > > > your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his various books. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now in your horoscope the antar of moon is running. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa: > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon MD: 2008-11-17 - 2018-11-17 > > > > > > > > > > > > Antardasas in this MD: > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon: 2008-11-17 - 2009-09-17 > > > > > > Mars: 2009-09-17 - 2010-04-18 > > > > > > > > > > > > But i don't find Moon antar dasa appropriate for selling of > > > property, > > > > > this antar will not fetch you a good buyer instead it will > create > > > lot of > > > > > frustration. I think Mars antar dasa starting from 17th sep 09 > to > > > 18th > > > > > april 10 will be more beneficial. > > > > > > > > > > > > The reasons was very simple and needs no explanation. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Anand Jain > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, you are not even 100% absolutely right it is > 1000% > > > > > correct as there is no other way to create the liquidity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Myself behind on the matter from last one year but could not > get > > > > > appropriate buyer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With best of my regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will call u tomorrow over phone, u may give me a miss call > > > > > whenever u hv free time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > Re: what lagna should be > > > taken > > > > > for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:31 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please confirm whether this liquidity you are looking for, > is > > > due > > > > > from > > > > > > > sale of property or not ? Or any other source. This is to > > > confirm > > > > > > > whether my observations are right or not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If its from sale of property, then yes you have a good > > > chances. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I normally charge a good amount for Birth rectification > from > > > my > > > > > > > > clients. You have already saved that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will appreciate that astrologers who can do Birth > > > > > rectification > > > > > > > > properly in india, can be counted on fingers, but apart > from > > > me > > > > > none > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > these will give you explanations for this, as I have done, > and > > > > > always > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > on these Groups so that others can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any further queries can be addressed to me on a > professional > > > vein > > > > > . > > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > will appreciate that Astrology being my profession and > having > > > a > > > > > family > > > > > > > > to look after, my duties lie towards professionalism too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anand > Jain > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no words for thanks as you have devoted valueable > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, If U don't mind and hv some time for me, is there > any > > > clue > > > > > for > > > > > > > > betterment for me or expecting any huge liquidity before > > > > > 18.7.2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna > should > > > be > > > > > taken > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 8:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I took up Your case for judgement at 9th Jul 2009 , that > was > > > > > > > yesterday > > > > > > > > at Bombay in evening at 18.21.08 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what is the Ruling Planets Theory. > > > > > > > > > Whenever an astrologer sincerely wishes to confirm some > data > > > > > > > available > > > > > > > > before him, and does not have any further inputs, then the > > > Divine > > > > > > > > Configurations of the stars in the sky come to his rescue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is to be done here. > > > > > > > > > One must note at time of judgement what is the > prevailing > > > Lagna > > > > > > > Lord, > > > > > > > > Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day Lord. This is > > > known > > > > > as > > > > > > > > LSRD. > > > > > > > > > At time of judgement taken by me, the Lagna was > Sagittarius, > > > > > Moon > > > > > > > Star > > > > > > > > was Uttarasadha, Moon Raashi was Capricorn, and the Day > was > > > > > Wednesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So taking all the Lords of these points we have the LSRD > as > > > > > Jupiter, > > > > > > > > The Sun, Saturn and Mercury. There is a rule that if Rahu > or > > > Ketu > > > > > > > > occupies the raashi iof any of these Lords, then one must > > > change > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently occupying Capricorn > owned > > > by > > > > > > > > Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the New LSRD is Jupiter, The Sun, Rahu and Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one check whether the Lagna arrived at the > recorded > > > > > Birth > > > > > > > > time is correct ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra Lord and the > Sub > > > Lord > > > > > > > > planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that the > recorded > > > time > > > > > is > > > > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With your given birth time of 19.30 at Delhi Birth, on > 14th > > > > > October > > > > > > > > 1960 the Lagna arrived at was Taurus 00.04.43 using KP > > > Ayanamsha > > > > > and > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord was The Sun and the Sub Lord was Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we have Sun and Rahu both in our LSRD at time of > > > judgement > > > > > in > > > > > > > > Bombay we accept that the Birth time is correct. (Though > > > whether > > > > > to > > > > > > > take > > > > > > > > Aries or Taurus Lagna was still not solved, at least I > knew > > > from > > > > > above > > > > > > > > xcersise, that your time of Birth was nearly right and not > > > many > > > > > > > minutes > > > > > > > > apart). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I faced 2 more problems which made me study further > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1st problem - Using Taurus Lagna when I tried to match > the > > > > > events of > > > > > > > > your Life. Nothing matched. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd problem - When the events did not match. I was in a > > > > > quandary. I > > > > > > > > checked the minute divisions of the degrees and realised > that > > > from > > > > > > > > 29.13.20 degrees of Aries uptil 01.13.20 degrees of > Taurus, > > > the > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord and the SubLord would remain same. In > simple > > > > > language > > > > > > > > this means that you could have born about 3 minutes before > > > close > > > > > of > > > > > > > > Mesha Lagna and 3 minutes after close of Mesha Lagna, yet > Star > > > > > lord > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > Sub lord would still remain same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I made one more additional Horary chart to recheck this > > > (This is > > > > > a > > > > > > > > advanced technique . Cannot write here because many will > not > > > > > > > understand > > > > > > > > and to make one understand I will have to write another > page > > > and > > > > > > > > everyone will get confused with so much at a time) and > found > > > Mars > > > > > was > > > > > > > > figuring in the prominent planets. This gave me a clue and > > > went > > > > > ahead > > > > > > > > and fixed the Birth time as 19.29.30 without meddling too > much > > > > > with > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > recorded time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna arrived at is,Aries 29.56.02 Star Lord and > Sub > > > > > Lord > > > > > > > > remain same as in previous birth time of 19.30.00 IST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now to match the events - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage on 23.11.85 Venus-Venus . Venus signifies > the > > > houses > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > and 7 required to be activated primarily for marriage. If > You > > > have > > > > > a > > > > > > > > software which shows the significators, then note that > Venus > > > is > > > > > the > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > planet among the 9 Planets in your chart, which shows the > > > SubLord > > > > > > > again > > > > > > > > as Venus signifying, 2,7 and 9. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) First daughter 16.12.1986 Venus - Sun. The Sun > signifies > > > the > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Second daughter 21.09.1988 Venus-Moon-Sun. mars about > to > > > > > enter on > > > > > > > > 3rd October 1988. Both Sun and Mars signify the 5th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Father expired on 10.8.1990 Rahu amongst other houses > > > > > signifies > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > 8th and 9th house too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will not get the above matching by Taurus Lagna at > all, > > > by > > > > > > > > whatever stretch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope my time spent is of use to You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already done some work on this. But before we > move > > > > > further > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > you pl. call me on my cell number 9323522663, so that > I > > > could > > > > > > > spend > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > time on same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > Anand > > > Jain > > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful manner, as u r explaining to us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.10.1960 19.30 Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married on 23.11.85 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first daughter 16.12.1986 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd daughter 21.9.1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father expired 10.8.1990 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Detained by Custom officials on 29.12.1990 and case > > > > > finalised on > > > > > > > > > > 19.4.2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna > > > should > > > > > be > > > > > > > > taken for > > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 8 July, 2009, 6:19 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If You are using KP ayanamsha then it will the same > > > Lagna. > > > > > If > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > using Lahiris or Ramans then there may be a doubt of > the > > > > > Lagna. > > > > > > > > (This > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > presuming that your time of Birth is accurate). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But before that there is a process known as Ruling > > > Planets > > > > > > > theory > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > will help you guide to the right Lagna. If You put > the > > > birth > > > > > > > > details > > > > > > > > > > > here, I will make a Live example of this process so > all > > > > > those > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > not familiar with this can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also put a few incindets from your Life, marriage > date > > > (If > > > > > You > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > married, childrens birth date,) date of employment > etc. > > > > > whatever > > > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > > > incidents you remember, limiting it to 5 , so that > the > > > mail > > > > > does > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > too long . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > > > > " swarup1068 " > > > > > > > > > > > <swarup1068@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will u pl clarify, if horoscope of any native > shows > > > the > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > degree > > > > > > > > > > > of 00:01, what lagna should be taken for prediction > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand jain ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls remov ur phone Numbr along with posts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds Team grp managemnt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and > safer > > > > > Internet > > > > > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads. / > in/internetexplo > > > rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people > like > > > you. > > > > > Check > > > > > > > > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer > Internet > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Dear Vijay Goel ji, I have been a wee bit harsh on you. I am sorry for that. Bade log aise hi hote hain, thode crack, thoda screw dheela and eccentric. Hum tumse pahle chale jayeenge upar, isliye hame maaf kar dena bhai. Hope our love will overcome these puny matters . best wishes, Bhaskar. , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj wrote: > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > You are always respected as an well versed senior KP astrologer. > > It will be a great pleasure for me to have cup of tea with you. > > Thankyou, > Regards, > Vijay Goel > Jaipur. > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vijay ji, > > > > No I was not sure actually whether you are in Jaipur or not. just > > faintly remembered so. So I was confirming that by (?). > > > > Since you have given me your number and address, (I will be putting up > > very near to your address)I will wait for your call to invite me over > > for a cup of tea, but pyaar se bulaoge tab hi bulaana mujhe. Agar logon > > se " Madman " kar ke introduce karna hai, toh Bhai maaf karo. > > > > I hope this episode will be left behind when we meet. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > your quote : > > > // " I am going to Jaipur (Your location?) " // > > > > > > I am at D-687, Near Gaurav Tower, Malviya Nagar, Jaipur. > > > My phone number is 9214502239. > > > > > > You are warmly welcome at Jaipur. I advise you to visit the Rishi > > Parashar Ashram located near to Sarika National park on Alwar route. > > > It is said that on that place Parashar stayed and done all his works. > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > Regards, > > > Vijay Goel > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > > > > > I am not convinced by this explanation. What you have given is only > > the > > > > position and placement of the planets and their aspects on each > > other . > > > > Where is the logic part ? > > > > > > > > As regards to My KP Method. There is nothing like yours and mines. > > KP > > > > has come from Parashari so nothing strange or unknown quality about > > it. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > your quote : > > > > > ////when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from > > some > > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now ? This > > is > > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, so that > > > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as the > > logs " .//// > > > > > > > > > > You may be right, ha ha but i have not denied your hard work, i > > > > have given my views based on your conclusion, whats wrong in it? > > > > > > > > > > You find moon antar better, its your KP method; i find mars antar > > > > better in terms of property matter, its my view. > > > > > > > > > > Reasons : > > > > > In D-1 chart : > > > > > Moon is in 3H in karka in papkartari yoga aspected by none. > > > > > In D-9: > > > > > Moon in 12H as 7L aspected by venus as 10L & 5L. > > > > > In D-4 : > > > > > Moon in 9H in papkartari yoga aspected by venus and mercury. Here > > > > position improves for property related matters. > > > > > > > > > > In all three chart, involvement of 4th house is negligible so > > property > > > > related matters will hardly fructify, only in D-4 chart, 2nd house > > is > > > > involved. If we observe moon in D-10 chart than this antar of moon > > will > > > > bring lot of hard work and short travels related to career and > > > > profession. > > > > > > > > > > Now look at mars: > > > > > D-1: > > > > > Mars in 2nd house aspected by saturn and jupiter. saturn is > > aspecting > > > > sun the 4L. > > > > > D-9: > > > > > mars is 4L in 3H aspected by saturn (2L) ans sun. > > > > > D-4: > > > > > Mars with jupiter in 8H aspecting 2H and sun as 4L is aspecting > > mars > > > > > from 2H. > > > > > > > > > > In all above chart it is clear that mars has more linkage to 4th > > and > > > > 2H related matters.Hence i find it more appropriate. > > > > > > > > > > ************ > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > If any person want to have any peaceful discussion on this matter > > or > > > > have any doubts he\she can call me on my mobile or email me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goelji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri KN Rao ji has written much. Which of his teachings impies > > that > > > > the > > > > > > Lagna is Vrishabha and not Mesha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Why will Moon antardasha not appropriate for selling property ? > > The > > > > > > reasons - Astrological? Why dpo you think that the Mars dasha > > would > > > > be > > > > > > more beneficial ? The reasons ? - Astrological ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Why are the reasons very simple and need no explanations. I > > cannot > > > > > > understand this simplicity. Can You explain ? > > > > > > > > > > > > And where were you when all this was discussed uptil now. You > > come > > > > back, > > > > > > when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from some > > > > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now ? > > This > > > > is > > > > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, so > > that > > > > > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as the > > logs " . > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars antar is going to be a very malefic period for him . What > > > > rubbish > > > > > > are you talking that it will be beneficial. Do you know even the > > > > basics > > > > > > of astrology ? > > > > > > > > > > > > After the story of Ramayana has been heard by people, You are > > now > > > > > > talking " I will tell you who is Ram and Sita " . > > > > > > > > > > > > Please explain us what is simple which needs no explanation ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji Jain, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on the birth > > details > > > > of > > > > > > your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his various books. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now in your horoscope the antar of moon is running. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon MD: 2008-11-17 - 2018-11-17 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Antardasas in this MD: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon: 2008-11-17 - 2009-09-17 > > > > > > > Mars: 2009-09-17 - 2010-04-18 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But i don't find Moon antar dasa appropriate for selling of > > > > property, > > > > > > this antar will not fetch you a good buyer instead it will > > create > > > > lot of > > > > > > frustration. I think Mars antar dasa starting from 17th sep 09 > > to > > > > 18th > > > > > > april 10 will be more beneficial. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The reasons was very simple and needs no explanation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Anand Jain > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, you are not even 100% absolutely right it is > > 1000% > > > > > > correct as there is no other way to create the liquidity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Myself behind on the matter from last one year but could not > > get > > > > > > appropriate buyer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With best of my regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will call u tomorrow over phone, u may give me a miss call > > > > > > whenever u hv free time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > Re: what lagna should be > > > > taken > > > > > > for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:31 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please confirm whether this liquidity you are looking for, > > is > > > > due > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > sale of property or not ? Or any other source. This is to > > > > confirm > > > > > > > > whether my observations are right or not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If its from sale of property, then yes you have a good > > > > chances. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I normally charge a good amount for Birth rectification > > from > > > > my > > > > > > > > > clients. You have already saved that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will appreciate that astrologers who can do Birth > > > > > > rectification > > > > > > > > > properly in india, can be counted on fingers, but apart > > from > > > > me > > > > > > none > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > these will give you explanations for this, as I have done, > > and > > > > > > always > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > on these Groups so that others can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any further queries can be addressed to me on a > > professional > > > > vein > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > > will appreciate that Astrology being my profession and > > having > > > > a > > > > > > family > > > > > > > > > to look after, my duties lie towards professionalism too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anand > > Jain > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no words for thanks as you have devoted valueable > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, If U don't mind and hv some time for me, is there > > any > > > > clue > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > betterment for me or expecting any huge liquidity before > > > > > > 18.7.2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna > > should > > > > be > > > > > > taken > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 8:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I took up Your case for judgement at 9th Jul 2009 , that > > was > > > > > > > > yesterday > > > > > > > > > at Bombay in evening at 18.21.08 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what is the Ruling Planets Theory. > > > > > > > > > > Whenever an astrologer sincerely wishes to confirm some > > data > > > > > > > > available > > > > > > > > > before him, and does not have any further inputs, then the > > > > Divine > > > > > > > > > Configurations of the stars in the sky come to his rescue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is to be done here. > > > > > > > > > > One must note at time of judgement what is the > > prevailing > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > > Lord, > > > > > > > > > Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day Lord. This is > > > > known > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > LSRD. > > > > > > > > > > At time of judgement taken by me, the Lagna was > > Sagittarius, > > > > > > Moon > > > > > > > > Star > > > > > > > > > was Uttarasadha, Moon Raashi was Capricorn, and the Day > > was > > > > > > Wednesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So taking all the Lords of these points we have the LSRD > > as > > > > > > Jupiter, > > > > > > > > > The Sun, Saturn and Mercury. There is a rule that if Rahu > > or > > > > Ketu > > > > > > > > > occupies the raashi iof any of these Lords, then one must > > > > change > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently occupying Capricorn > > owned > > > > by > > > > > > > > > Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the New LSRD is Jupiter, The Sun, Rahu and Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one check whether the Lagna arrived at the > > recorded > > > > > > Birth > > > > > > > > > time is correct ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra Lord and the > > Sub > > > > Lord > > > > > > > > > planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that the > > recorded > > > > time > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With your given birth time of 19.30 at Delhi Birth, on > > 14th > > > > > > October > > > > > > > > > 1960 the Lagna arrived at was Taurus 00.04.43 using KP > > > > Ayanamsha > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord was The Sun and the Sub Lord was Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we have Sun and Rahu both in our LSRD at time of > > > > judgement > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > Bombay we accept that the Birth time is correct. (Though > > > > whether > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > take > > > > > > > > > Aries or Taurus Lagna was still not solved, at least I > > knew > > > > from > > > > > > above > > > > > > > > > xcersise, that your time of Birth was nearly right and not > > > > many > > > > > > > > minutes > > > > > > > > > apart). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I faced 2 more problems which made me study further > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1st problem - Using Taurus Lagna when I tried to match > > the > > > > > > events of > > > > > > > > > your Life. Nothing matched. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd problem - When the events did not match. I was in a > > > > > > quandary. I > > > > > > > > > checked the minute divisions of the degrees and realised > > that > > > > from > > > > > > > > > 29.13.20 degrees of Aries uptil 01.13.20 degrees of > > Taurus, > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord and the SubLord would remain same. In > > simple > > > > > > language > > > > > > > > > this means that you could have born about 3 minutes before > > > > close > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > Mesha Lagna and 3 minutes after close of Mesha Lagna, yet > > Star > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Sub lord would still remain same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I made one more additional Horary chart to recheck this > > > > (This is > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > advanced technique . Cannot write here because many will > > not > > > > > > > > understand > > > > > > > > > and to make one understand I will have to write another > > page > > > > and > > > > > > > > > everyone will get confused with so much at a time) and > > found > > > > Mars > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > figuring in the prominent planets. This gave me a clue and > > > > went > > > > > > ahead > > > > > > > > > and fixed the Birth time as 19.29.30 without meddling too > > much > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > recorded time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna arrived at is,Aries 29.56.02 Star Lord and > > Sub > > > > > > Lord > > > > > > > > > remain same as in previous birth time of 19.30.00 IST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now to match the events - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage on 23.11.85 Venus-Venus . Venus signifies > > the > > > > houses > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > and 7 required to be activated primarily for marriage. If > > You > > > > have > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > software which shows the significators, then note that > > Venus > > > > is > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > planet among the 9 Planets in your chart, which shows the > > > > SubLord > > > > > > > > again > > > > > > > > > as Venus signifying, 2,7 and 9. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) First daughter 16.12.1986 Venus - Sun. The Sun > > signifies > > > > the > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Second daughter 21.09.1988 Venus-Moon-Sun. mars about > > to > > > > > > enter on > > > > > > > > > 3rd October 1988. Both Sun and Mars signify the 5th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Father expired on 10.8.1990 Rahu amongst other houses > > > > > > signifies > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > 8th and 9th house too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will not get the above matching by Taurus Lagna at > > all, > > > > by > > > > > > > > > whatever stretch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope my time spent is of use to You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already done some work on this. But before we > > move > > > > > > further > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > you pl. call me on my cell number 9323522663, so that > > I > > > > could > > > > > > > > spend > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > time on same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com, > > Anand > > > > Jain > > > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful manner, as u r explaining to us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.10.1960 19.30 Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married on 23.11.85 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first daughter 16.12.1986 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd daughter 21.9.1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father expired 10.8.1990 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Detained by Custom officials on 29.12.1990 and case > > > > > > finalised on > > > > > > > > > > > 19.4.2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna > > > > should > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > taken for > > > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 8 July, 2009, 6:19 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If You are using KP ayanamsha then it will the same > > > > Lagna. > > > > > > If > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > using Lahiris or Ramans then there may be a doubt of > > the > > > > > > Lagna. > > > > > > > > > (This > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > presuming that your time of Birth is accurate). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But before that there is a process known as Ruling > > > > Planets > > > > > > > > theory > > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > will help you guide to the right Lagna. If You put > > the > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > details > > > > > > > > > > > > here, I will make a Live example of this process so > > all > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > not familiar with this can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also put a few incindets from your Life, marriage > > date > > > > (If > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > married, childrens birth date,) date of employment > > etc. > > > > > > whatever > > > > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > > > > incidents you remember, limiting it to 5 , so that > > the > > > > mail > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > too long . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com, > > > > > > " swarup1068 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <swarup1068@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will u pl clarify, if horoscope of any native > > shows > > > > the > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > > degree > > > > > > > > > > > > of 00:01, what lagna should be taken for prediction > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand jain ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls remov ur phone Numbr along with posts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds Team grp managemnt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and > > safer > > > > > > Internet > > > > > > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads. / > > in/internetexplo > > > > rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people > > like > > > > you. > > > > > > Check > > > > > > > > > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer > > Internet > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Dear Renuji, Thankyou for exercising the KNR's method on the example charts with their kids data. You query is perfectly right which i cannot explain now, infact when i struck at some point than i prefer to use other techniques simultaneously like matching marriage date in D-9 chart and also looking at D-12 and D-7 charts. In this example i didn't devoted much time to it for BT as Bhaskerji had already done it, but my main focus on 'when sudden gains will come from property sell' and presented the snapshot view. I really appreciate your genuine attempt on this method. Thankyou, Regards, Vijay Goel Jaipur. , " renunw " <renunw wrote: > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > Thanks for your explanations. > > In the given example, if Lagna was taken as Virgo only transit Moon out of transit Sa, tr Ju and tr Ma had anything to do with mother's 5H, 5HL, 9H and 9HL. > > If Lagna is taken as Leo, transit Moon was in her 9H. Was this the reason you rectified the lagna from Virgo to Leo? > > blessings, > > Renu > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > Respected Neelamji, Renuji, > > > > Actually i am using the principles as explained by Shri K N Rao in his book " Planet and children " . > > He has explained how saturn, jupiter, mars and moon transits in native charts brings child birth. In 1997-98 i have attended the lectures of him as our routine studies. > > > > What i have done is reverse engineering ie from the data of child , correct the janma lagna of parents, many articles on this reverse engineering has appeared in journal of astrology. > > > > I never do horoscope reading for my clients unless i get satisfied with the correction of the horoscope. > > > > Just for example , Today i got the birth details from a client who resides in delhi on phone. > > Female : > > July 11, 1981 > > Time: 10:35:00 > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 77 E 33' 00 " , 29 N 58' 00 " > > Saharanpur, India > > > > Her lagna changes in 41 secs. > > > > The birth details of her son is : > > November 15, 2005 > > Time: 7:14:00 > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 77 E 13' 00 " , 28 N 40' 00 " > > Delhi, India > > > > Now from the chart of her son and by reverse engineering technique as discussed in the book " planet and children " > > > > I corrected the mother chart as > > > > July 11, 1981 > > Time: 10:34:19 > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 77 E 33' 00 " , 29 N 58' 00 " > > Saharanpur, India > > > > Than i checked the marriage timings and other incidents as per our parashari teaching and found to to more appropriate when checked with divisional charts. > > > > First fix the lagna than correct the divisional chart is my method. > > > > Shri K n Rao has given many many hints in his writings to correct the divisional chart with incidents. > > > > The method as discussed by Bhaskerji is good if we practice KP astrology where i think divisional chart does not have any importance, (more explanation can be given by Bhaskerji himself). > > Secondly Bhaskerji method is based on Prashna technique which does not requires any past incident information. > > > > I think Bhaskerji is in the bad habit of shouting and shouting, as seen in 75% of his mails. > > He is also in the habit of mixing KP astrology with parashari astrology. > > The lagna correction made by him is based on KP ayanamsha whereas mostly we are working with lahiri ayanamsha. > > He is right in his writings and i appreciate it, i had not denied his explanation but why he is shouting like a mad man. > > I have put forte my views in the example taken by him and he should not have any objection in it. > > > > > > Thankyou, > > Regards, > > Vijay Goel > > Jaipur. > > > > > > , " renunw " <renunw@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > > > Quoting Neelam ji, > > > > > > //You have referred to KNRs methods, which many of us here would be > > > familiar with and the rest would like to learn. // > > > > > > I belong to the highlighted sector...hence awaiting anxiously to grasp > > > something new. > > > > > > Hope you will oblige.....thanks. > > > > > > blessings, > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , neelam gupta > > > <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > > > > > Kindly explain the basis of your judgment. I think the demand is > > > justified. > > > > There are various methods of BT correction, they might give different > > > > results. Even the same method may give difference of outcome in > > > different > > > > hands. But the method should be clear and understandable. You have > > > referred > > > > to KNRs methods, which many of us here would be familiar with and the > > > rest > > > > would like to learn. > > > > > > > > We hope you'll soon substantiate your statements. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/7/10 Souvik Dutta explore_vulcan@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > I have had differences with Bhaskar-ji in the past and may even have > > > so in > > > > > the future but I completely agree with Bhaskar-ji here. > > > > > > > > > > We are an open group, so if someone wants to refute the Ruling > > > Planet > > > > > theory and the birth time correction method detailed by Bhaskar-ji > > > > > (brilliantly I must add), I would really love to learn his/her > > > method. > > > > > > > > > > I am very detached on cyber-groups so please do not take this mail > > > > > personally. > > > > > > > > > > Knowledge is the only thing that matters to me, nothing else. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > <%40yaho\ > > > ogroups.com>, > > > > > " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > This is not a normal Group like J.Ganga or J.Remedies where one > > > picks up > > > > > > Queries and keeps answering them. This is a serious astrology > > > group > > > > > > which I consider exclusive and enjoy being present in, due to free > > > > > > speech allowed, democratic set up and incessant flow of knowledge > > > > > > flowing around with great intelligent members. At such times, when > > > a > > > > > > member writes enquiring about his Lagna which is at border, and we > > > > > > answer him with a detailed logical analysis, and then some other > > > > > > astrologer(?) comes in suddenly at the end time of the thread and > > > talks > > > > > > contrary to what has been concluded, then it is a normal protocol, > > > > > > unwritten, but well understood in an assembly of intelligent > > > members, > > > > > > that he is supposed to support his contradictory claims with > > > logical > > > > > > analysis given in counter argument. One cannot say that " I think > > > the > > > > > > Lagna will be this " , " I feel the next antardasha will be > > > beneficial " , > > > > > > " This is too simple to explain " . It is unacceptable . I request > > > that > > > > > > the members take note of this, and call for an analysis from this > > > > > > member, when I have already presented my side with supported > > > analysis, > > > > > > and so has another member with his Lagna Sphuta mail. But in this > > > > > > case this member only " thinks " but has nothing to present in > > > support of > > > > > > his thinking. Shri KN Rao Sahab's name has been taken to support > > > and > > > > > > give some credence to his thinking, but no palpable logic > > > alongside is > > > > > > given. This is outright ridiculous. regards, Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > <%40yaho\ > > > ogroups.com>, > > > > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We would like to hear your explanations on why the Lagna must be > > > taken > > > > > > > as Vrishabha only and not as Mesha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What appears simple to you, may not be as simple actually. > > > Please > > > > > > > explain us why you think the way you do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I heard from someone that you are a astrologer or at least claim > > > to > > > > > > say > > > > > > > so. I also heard that you have a website offering services for > > > same. I > > > > > > > may be wrong. Then you may correct me. I would like to see the > > > > > > astrology > > > > > > > part coming from you, rather than surmises and thoughts or what > > > you > > > > > > > think. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > <%40yaho\ > > > ogroups.com>, > > > > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goelji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri KN Rao ji has written much. Which of his teachings impies > > > that > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Lagna is Vrishabha and not Mesha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why will Moon antardasha not appropriate for selling property > > > ? The > > > > > > > > reasons - Astrological? Why dpo you think that the Mars dasha > > > would > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > more beneficial ? The reasons ? - Astrological ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why are the reasons very simple and need no explanations. I > > > cannot > > > > > > > > understand this simplicity. Can You explain ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And where were you when all this was discussed uptil now. You > > > come > > > > > > > back, > > > > > > > > when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from > > > some > > > > > > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now ? > > > This > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, so > > > that > > > > > > > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as the > > > logs " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars antar is going to be a very malefic period for him . What > > > > > > rubbish > > > > > > > > are you talking that it will be beneficial. Do you know even > > > the > > > > > > > basics > > > > > > > > of astrology ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After the story of Ramayana has been heard by people, You are > > > now > > > > > > > > talking " I will tell you who is Ram and Sita " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please explain us what is simple which needs no explanation ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > <%40yaho\ > > > ogroups.com>, > > > > > " Vijay Goel " > > > > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji Jain, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on the birth > > > details > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his various books. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now in your horoscope the antar of moon is running. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon MD: 2008-11-17 - 2018-11-17 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Antardasas in this MD: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon: 2008-11-17 - 2009-09-17 > > > > > > > > > Mars: 2009-09-17 - 2010-04-18 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But i don't find Moon antar dasa appropriate for selling of > > > > > > > property, > > > > > > > > this antar will not fetch you a good buyer instead it will > > > create > > > > > > lot > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > frustration. I think Mars antar dasa starting from 17th sep 09 > > > to > > > > > > 18th > > > > > > > > april 10 will be more beneficial. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The reasons was very simple and needs no explanation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > <%40yaho\ > > > ogroups.com>, > > > > > Anand Jain > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, you are not even 100% absolutely right it is > > > 1000% > > > > > > > > correct as there is no other way to create the liquidity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Myself behind on the matter from last one year but could > > > not get > > > > > > > > appropriate buyer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With best of my regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will call u tomorrow over phone, u may give me a miss > > > call > > > > > > > > whenever u hv free time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > Re: what lagna should > > > be > > > > > > taken > > > > > > > > for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > > To: > > > <%40yaho\ > > > ogroups.com> > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:31 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please confirm whether this liquidity you are looking for, > > > is > > > > > > due > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > sale of property or not ? Or any other source. This is to > > > > > > confirm > > > > > > > > > > whether my observations are right or not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If its from sale of property, then yes you have a good > > > > > > chances. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I normally charge a good amount for Birth rectification > > > from > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > clients. You have already saved that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will appreciate that astrologers who can do Birth > > > > > > > > rectification > > > > > > > > > > > properly in india, can be counted on fingers, but apart > > > from > > > > > > me > > > > > > > > none > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > these will give you explanations for this, as I have > > > done, and > > > > > > > > always > > > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > > on these Groups so that others can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any further queries can be addressed to me on a > > > professional > > > > > > > vein > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > > > > will appreciate that Astrology being my profession and > > > having > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > family > > > > > > > > > > > to look after, my duties lie towards professionalism > > > too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > > Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no words for thanks as you have devoted > > > valueable > > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, If U don't mind and hv some time for me, is there > > > any > > > > > > > clue > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > betterment for me or expecting any huge liquidity before > > > > > > > > 18.7.2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna > > > should > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > taken > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 8:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I took up Your case for judgement at 9th Jul 2009 , > > > that was > > > > > > > > > > yesterday > > > > > > > > > > > at Bombay in evening at 18.21.08 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what is the Ruling Planets Theory. > > > > > > > > > > > > Whenever an astrologer sincerely wishes to confirm > > > some data > > > > > > > > > > available > > > > > > > > > > > before him, and does not have any further inputs, then > > > the > > > > > > > Divine > > > > > > > > > > > Configurations of the stars in the sky come to his > > > rescue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is to be done here. > > > > > > > > > > > > One must note at time of judgement what is the > > > prevailing > > > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > > > > Lord, > > > > > > > > > > > Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day Lord. This > > > is > > > > > > known > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > LSRD. > > > > > > > > > > > > At time of judgement taken by me, the Lagna was > > > Sagittarius, > > > > > > > > Moon > > > > > > > > > > Star > > > > > > > > > > > was Uttarasadha, Moon Raashi was Capricorn, and the Day > > > was > > > > > > > > Wednesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So taking all the Lords of these points we have the > > > LSRD as > > > > > > > > Jupiter, > > > > > > > > > > > The Sun, Saturn and Mercury. There is a rule that if > > > Rahu or > > > > > > > Ketu > > > > > > > > > > > occupies the raashi iof any of these Lords, then one > > > must > > > > > > change > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently occupying Capricorn > > > owned > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the New LSRD is Jupiter, The Sun, Rahu and > > > Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one check whether the Lagna arrived at the > > > recorded > > > > > > > > Birth > > > > > > > > > > > time is correct ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra Lord and > > > the Sub > > > > > > > Lord > > > > > > > > > > > planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that the > > > recorded > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With your given birth time of 19.30 at Delhi Birth, on > > > 14th > > > > > > > > October > > > > > > > > > > > 1960 the Lagna arrived at was Taurus 00.04.43 using KP > > > > > > Ayanamsha > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord was The Sun and the Sub Lord was Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we have Sun and Rahu both in our LSRD at time of > > > > > > > judgement > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > Bombay we accept that the Birth time is correct. (Though > > > > > > whether > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > take > > > > > > > > > > > Aries or Taurus Lagna was still not solved, at least I > > > knew > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > above > > > > > > > > > > > xcersise, that your time of Birth was nearly right and > > > not > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > > minutes > > > > > > > > > > > apart). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I faced 2 more problems which made me study > > > further - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1st problem - Using Taurus Lagna when I tried to match > > > the > > > > > > > > events of > > > > > > > > > > > your Life. Nothing matched. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd problem - When the events did not match. I was in > > > a > > > > > > > > quandary. I > > > > > > > > > > > checked the minute divisions of the degrees and realised > > > that > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > 29.13.20 degrees of Aries uptil 01.13.20 degrees of > > > Taurus, > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord and the SubLord would remain same. In > > > simple > > > > > > > > language > > > > > > > > > > > this means that you could have born about 3 minutes > > > before > > > > > > close > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > Mesha Lagna and 3 minutes after close of Mesha Lagna, > > > yet Star > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > Sub lord would still remain same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I made one more additional Horary chart to recheck > > > this > > > > > > (This > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > advanced technique . Cannot write here because many will > > > not > > > > > > > > > > understand > > > > > > > > > > > and to make one understand I will have to write another > > > page > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > everyone will get confused with so much at a time) and > > > found > > > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > figuring in the prominent planets. This gave me a clue > > > and > > > > > > went > > > > > > > > ahead > > > > > > > > > > > and fixed the Birth time as 19.29.30 without meddling > > > too much > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > recorded time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna arrived at is,Aries 29.56.02 Star Lord > > > and Sub > > > > > > > > Lord > > > > > > > > > > > remain same as in previous birth time of 19.30.00 IST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now to match the events - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage on 23.11.85 Venus-Venus . Venus signifies > > > the > > > > > > > houses > > > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > > > and 7 required to be activated primarily for marriage. > > > If You > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > software which shows the significators, then note that > > > Venus > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > > planet among the 9 Planets in your chart, which shows > > > the > > > > > > > SubLord > > > > > > > > > > again > > > > > > > > > > > as Venus signifying, 2,7 and 9. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) First daughter 16.12.1986 Venus - Sun. The Sun > > > signifies > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Second daughter 21.09.1988 Venus-Moon-Sun. mars > > > about to > > > > > > > > enter on > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd October 1988. Both Sun and Mars signify the 5th > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Father expired on 10.8.1990 Rahu amongst other > > > houses > > > > > > > > signifies > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > 8th and 9th house too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will not get the above matching by Taurus Lagna at > > > all, > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > whatever stretch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope my time spent is of use to You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > > > > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already done some work on this. But before we > > > move > > > > > > > > further > > > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > > > you pl. call me on my cell number 9323522663, so > > > that I > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > spend > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > time on same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > > Anand > > > > > > > Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful manner, as u r explaining to us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.10.1960 19.30 Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married on 23.11.85 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first daughter 16.12.1986 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd daughter 21.9.1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father expired 10.8.1990 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Detained by Custom officials on 29.12.1990 and > > > case > > > > > > > > finalised on > > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.4.2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what > > > lagna > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > taken for > > > > > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 8 July, 2009, 6:19 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If You are using KP ayanamsha then it will the > > > same > > > > > > Lagna. > > > > > > > > If > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > using Lahiris or Ramans then there may be a doubt > > > of the > > > > > > > > Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > (This > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > presuming that your time of Birth is accurate). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But before that there is a process known as Ruling > > > > > > Planets > > > > > > > > > > theory > > > > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will help you guide to the right Lagna. If You put > > > the > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > > details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here, I will make a Live example of this process > > > so all > > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not familiar with this can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also put a few incindets from your Life, marriage > > > date > > > > > > (If > > > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married, childrens birth date,) date of employment > > > etc. > > > > > > > > whatever > > > > > > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > > > > > > incidents you remember, limiting it to 5 , so that > > > the > > > > > > > mail > > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > > > too long . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > > > com, > > > > > > > > " swarup1068 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <swarup1068@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will u pl clarify, if horoscope of any native > > > shows > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > > > > degree > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of 00:01, what lagna should be taken for > > > prediction > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand jain ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls remov ur phone Numbr along with posts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds Team grp managemnt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and > > > safer > > > > > > > > Internet > > > > > > > > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads. / > > > in/internetexplo > > > > > > > rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people > > > like > > > > > > you. > > > > > > > > Check > > > > > > > > > > > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer > > > Internet > > > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Respected Bhaskerji, I am younger brother to you, and i am also 'bit use to' with the attitude of big brother. Your mail only reminded me one great research astrologer Shri H N Katwe, he was also very very harsh and all his life he was shouting on one and other. He himself has said this in his books. He even not spared his closest friend who gave him shelter all his life. Interesting story ! ) Since this person was clear heart and a genuine scholar he wrote his life events in black & white. Seriously this time your harsh mails does not affected me but only reminded him and nothing else. I am here in this forum only to share some astrological experiences and i am not at all good at teaching and explaining still i am trying my best. I only know one thing that learning astrology does not comes easily for me. Thankyou, Regards, Vijay Goel Jaipur. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > I have been a wee bit harsh on you. I am sorry for that. Bade log aise > hi hote hain, thode crack, thoda screw dheela and eccentric. Hum tumse > pahle chale jayeenge upar, isliye hame maaf kar dena bhai. Hope our love > will overcome these puny matters . > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > You are always respected as an well versed senior KP astrologer. > > > > It will be a great pleasure for me to have cup of tea with you. > > > > Thankyou, > > Regards, > > Vijay Goel > > Jaipur. > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay ji, > > > > > > No I was not sure actually whether you are in Jaipur or not. just > > > faintly remembered so. So I was confirming that by (?). > > > > > > Since you have given me your number and address, (I will be putting > up > > > very near to your address)I will wait for your call to invite me > over > > > for a cup of tea, but pyaar se bulaoge tab hi bulaana mujhe. Agar > logon > > > se " Madman " kar ke introduce karna hai, toh Bhai maaf karo. > > > > > > I hope this episode will be left behind when we meet. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > your quote : > > > > // " I am going to Jaipur (Your location?) " // > > > > > > > > I am at D-687, Near Gaurav Tower, Malviya Nagar, Jaipur. > > > > My phone number is 9214502239. > > > > > > > > You are warmly welcome at Jaipur. I advise you to visit the Rishi > > > Parashar Ashram located near to Sarika National park on Alwar route. > > > > It is said that on that place Parashar stayed and done all his > works. > > > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > > Regards, > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > > > > > > > I am not convinced by this explanation. What you have given is > only > > > the > > > > > position and placement of the planets and their aspects on each > > > other . > > > > > Where is the logic part ? > > > > > > > > > > As regards to My KP Method. There is nothing like yours and > mines. > > > KP > > > > > has come from Parashari so nothing strange or unknown quality > about > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > your quote : > > > > > > ////when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from > > > some > > > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now ? > This > > > is > > > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, so > that > > > > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as the > > > logs " .//// > > > > > > > > > > > > You may be right, ha ha but i have not denied your hard > work, i > > > > > have given my views based on your conclusion, whats wrong in it? > > > > > > > > > > > > You find moon antar better, its your KP method; i find mars > antar > > > > > better in terms of property matter, its my view. > > > > > > > > > > > > Reasons : > > > > > > In D-1 chart : > > > > > > Moon is in 3H in karka in papkartari yoga aspected by none. > > > > > > In D-9: > > > > > > Moon in 12H as 7L aspected by venus as 10L & 5L. > > > > > > In D-4 : > > > > > > Moon in 9H in papkartari yoga aspected by venus and mercury. > Here > > > > > position improves for property related matters. > > > > > > > > > > > > In all three chart, involvement of 4th house is negligible so > > > property > > > > > related matters will hardly fructify, only in D-4 chart, 2nd > house > > > is > > > > > involved. If we observe moon in D-10 chart than this antar of > moon > > > will > > > > > bring lot of hard work and short travels related to career and > > > > > profession. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now look at mars: > > > > > > D-1: > > > > > > Mars in 2nd house aspected by saturn and jupiter. saturn is > > > aspecting > > > > > sun the 4L. > > > > > > D-9: > > > > > > mars is 4L in 3H aspected by saturn (2L) ans sun. > > > > > > D-4: > > > > > > Mars with jupiter in 8H aspecting 2H and sun as 4L is > aspecting > > > mars > > > > > > from 2H. > > > > > > > > > > > > In all above chart it is clear that mars has more linkage to > 4th > > > and > > > > > 2H related matters.Hence i find it more appropriate. > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > If any person want to have any peaceful discussion on this > matter > > > or > > > > > have any doubts he\she can call me on my mobile or email me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goelji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri KN Rao ji has written much. Which of his teachings > impies > > > that > > > > > the > > > > > > > Lagna is Vrishabha and not Mesha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why will Moon antardasha not appropriate for selling > property ? > > > The > > > > > > > reasons - Astrological? Why dpo you think that the Mars > dasha > > > would > > > > > be > > > > > > > more beneficial ? The reasons ? - Astrological ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why are the reasons very simple and need no explanations. I > > > cannot > > > > > > > understand this simplicity. Can You explain ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And where were you when all this was discussed uptil now. > You > > > come > > > > > back, > > > > > > > when I reach the conclusion that he can get liquidity from > some > > > > > > > property. Why were you not able to say what I said uptil Now > ? > > > This > > > > > is > > > > > > > like touching the elephant who is pulling the wooden logs, > so > > > that > > > > > > > people think that " I am pushing the elephant as well as the > > > logs " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars antar is going to be a very malefic period for him . > What > > > > > rubbish > > > > > > > are you talking that it will be beneficial. Do you know even > the > > > > > basics > > > > > > > of astrology ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After the story of Ramayana has been heard by people, You > are > > > now > > > > > > > talking " I will tell you who is Ram and Sita " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please explain us what is simple which needs no explanation > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay > Goel " > > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji Jain, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also find lagna is Vrishab not Mesha based on the birth > > > details > > > > > of > > > > > > > your kids and Shri K n Rao teachings in his various books. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now in your horoscope the antar of moon is running. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon MD: 2008-11-17 - 2018-11-17 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Antardasas in this MD: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon: 2008-11-17 - 2009-09-17 > > > > > > > > Mars: 2009-09-17 - 2010-04-18 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But i don't find Moon antar dasa appropriate for selling > of > > > > > property, > > > > > > > this antar will not fetch you a good buyer instead it will > > > create > > > > > lot of > > > > > > > frustration. I think Mars antar dasa starting from 17th sep > 09 > > > to > > > > > 18th > > > > > > > april 10 will be more beneficial. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The reasons was very simple and needs no explanation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Anand > Jain > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, you are not even 100% absolutely right it is > > > 1000% > > > > > > > correct as there is no other way to create the liquidity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Myself behind on the matter from last one year but could > not > > > get > > > > > > > appropriate buyer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With best of my regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will call u tomorrow over phone, u may give me a miss > call > > > > > > > whenever u hv free time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > Re: what lagna > should be > > > > > taken > > > > > > > for prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:31 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please confirm whether this liquidity you are looking > for, > > > is > > > > > due > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > sale of property or not ? Or any other source. This is > to > > > > > confirm > > > > > > > > > whether my observations are right or not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If its from sale of property, then yes you have a good > > > > > chances. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I normally charge a good amount for Birth > rectification > > > from > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > clients. You have already saved that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will appreciate that astrologers who can do Birth > > > > > > > rectification > > > > > > > > > > properly in india, can be counted on fingers, but > apart > > > from > > > > > me > > > > > > > none > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > these will give you explanations for this, as I have > done, > > > and > > > > > > > always > > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > on these Groups so that others can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any further queries can be addressed to me on a > > > professional > > > > > vein > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > > > will appreciate that Astrology being my profession and > > > having > > > > > a > > > > > > > family > > > > > > > > > > to look after, my duties lie towards professionalism > too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > Anand > > > Jain > > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no words for thanks as you have devoted > valueable > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, If U don't mind and hv some time for me, is > there > > > any > > > > > clue > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > betterment for me or expecting any huge liquidity > before > > > > > > > 18.7.2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what lagna > > > should > > > > > be > > > > > > > taken > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 8:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I took up Your case for judgement at 9th Jul 2009 , > that > > > was > > > > > > > > > yesterday > > > > > > > > > > at Bombay in evening at 18.21.08 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what is the Ruling Planets Theory. > > > > > > > > > > > Whenever an astrologer sincerely wishes to confirm > some > > > data > > > > > > > > > available > > > > > > > > > > before him, and does not have any further inputs, then > the > > > > > Divine > > > > > > > > > > Configurations of the stars in the sky come to his > rescue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is to be done here. > > > > > > > > > > > One must note at time of judgement what is the > > > prevailing > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > > > Lord, > > > > > > > > > > Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day Lord. > This is > > > > > known > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > LSRD. > > > > > > > > > > > At time of judgement taken by me, the Lagna was > > > Sagittarius, > > > > > > > Moon > > > > > > > > > Star > > > > > > > > > > was Uttarasadha, Moon Raashi was Capricorn, and the > Day > > > was > > > > > > > Wednesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So taking all the Lords of these points we have the > LSRD > > > as > > > > > > > Jupiter, > > > > > > > > > > The Sun, Saturn and Mercury. There is a rule that if > Rahu > > > or > > > > > Ketu > > > > > > > > > > occupies the raashi iof any of these Lords, then one > must > > > > > change > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently occupying > Capricorn > > > owned > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the New LSRD is Jupiter, The Sun, Rahu and > Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one check whether the Lagna arrived at the > > > recorded > > > > > > > Birth > > > > > > > > > > time is correct ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra Lord and > the > > > Sub > > > > > Lord > > > > > > > > > > planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that the > > > recorded > > > > > time > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With your given birth time of 19.30 at Delhi Birth, > on > > > 14th > > > > > > > October > > > > > > > > > > 1960 the Lagna arrived at was Taurus 00.04.43 using KP > > > > > Ayanamsha > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord was The Sun and the Sub Lord was Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we have Sun and Rahu both in our LSRD at time > of > > > > > judgement > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > Bombay we accept that the Birth time is correct. > (Though > > > > > whether > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > take > > > > > > > > > > Aries or Taurus Lagna was still not solved, at least I > > > knew > > > > > from > > > > > > > above > > > > > > > > > > xcersise, that your time of Birth was nearly right and > not > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > minutes > > > > > > > > > > apart). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I faced 2 more problems which made me study > further > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1st problem - Using Taurus Lagna when I tried to > match > > > the > > > > > > > events of > > > > > > > > > > your Life. Nothing matched. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd problem - When the events did not match. I was > in a > > > > > > > quandary. I > > > > > > > > > > checked the minute divisions of the degrees and > realised > > > that > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > 29.13.20 degrees of Aries uptil 01.13.20 degrees of > > > Taurus, > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra Lord and the SubLord would remain same. In > > > simple > > > > > > > language > > > > > > > > > > this means that you could have born about 3 minutes > before > > > > > close > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > Mesha Lagna and 3 minutes after close of Mesha Lagna, > yet > > > Star > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > Sub lord would still remain same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I made one more additional Horary chart to recheck > this > > > > > (This is > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > advanced technique . Cannot write here because many > will > > > not > > > > > > > > > understand > > > > > > > > > > and to make one understand I will have to write > another > > > page > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > everyone will get confused with so much at a time) and > > > found > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > figuring in the prominent planets. This gave me a clue > and > > > > > went > > > > > > > ahead > > > > > > > > > > and fixed the Birth time as 19.29.30 without meddling > too > > > much > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > recorded time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the Lagna arrived at is,Aries 29.56.02 Star Lord > and > > > Sub > > > > > > > Lord > > > > > > > > > > remain same as in previous birth time of 19.30.00 IST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now to match the events - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage on 23.11.85 Venus-Venus . Venus > signifies > > > the > > > > > houses > > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > > and 7 required to be activated primarily for marriage. > If > > > You > > > > > have > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > software which shows the significators, then note that > > > Venus > > > > > is > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > planet among the 9 Planets in your chart, which shows > the > > > > > SubLord > > > > > > > > > again > > > > > > > > > > as Venus signifying, 2,7 and 9. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) First daughter 16.12.1986 Venus - Sun. The Sun > > > signifies > > > > > the > > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Second daughter 21.09.1988 Venus-Moon-Sun. mars > about > > > to > > > > > > > enter on > > > > > > > > > > 3rd October 1988. Both Sun and Mars signify the 5th > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Father expired on 10.8.1990 Rahu amongst other > houses > > > > > > > signifies > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > 8th and 9th house too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will not get the above matching by Taurus Lagna > at > > > all, > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > whatever stretch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope my time spent is of use to You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > > > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand Jain, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already done some work on this. But before > we > > > move > > > > > > > further > > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > > you pl. call me on my cell number 9323522663, so > that > > > I > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > spend > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > time on same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > com, > > > Anand > > > > > Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > swarup1068@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful manner, as u r explaining to > us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.10.1960 19.30 Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married on 23.11.85 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first daughter 16.12.1986 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd daughter 21.9.1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father expired 10.8.1990 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Detained by Custom officials on 29.12.1990 and > case > > > > > > > finalised on > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.4.2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards/Anand Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: what > lagna > > > > > should > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > taken for > > > > > > > > > > > > prediction if lagna of 00:01 degree > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 8 July, 2009, 6:19 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If You are using KP ayanamsha then it will the > same > > > > > Lagna. > > > > > > > If > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > using Lahiris or Ramans then there may be a > doubt of > > > the > > > > > > > Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > (This > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > presuming that your time of Birth is accurate). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But before that there is a process known as > Ruling > > > > > Planets > > > > > > > > > theory > > > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > > will help you guide to the right Lagna. If You > put > > > the > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > details > > > > > > > > > > > > > here, I will make a Live example of this process > so > > > all > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > not familiar with this can learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also put a few incindets from your Life, > marriage > > > date > > > > > (If > > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > married, childrens birth date,) date of > employment > > > etc. > > > > > > > whatever > > > > > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > > > > > incidents you remember, limiting it to 5 , so > that > > > the > > > > > mail > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > > too long . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > com, > > > > > > > " swarup1068 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <swarup1068@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will u pl clarify, if horoscope of any native > > > shows > > > > > the > > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > > > degree > > > > > > > > > > > > > of 00:01, what lagna should be taken for > prediction > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anand jain ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pls remov ur phone Numbr along with posts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds Team grp managemnt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new > and > > > safer > > > > > > > Internet > > > > > > > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads. / > > > in/internetexplo > > > > > rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people > > > like > > > > > you. > > > > > > > Check > > > > > > > > > > out Buzz. http://in.buzz. / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer > > > Internet > > > > > > > Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Dear All,KNR’s book Planets and Children, indicates the following rules to assess the childbirth and correctness of horoscopes.Dasha check (page 37)In 60 per cent of the cases, child birth takes place in the mahadasha-antardasha of planets connected with Lagna/LL, 5H/5L or 9H/9L. Transit results (page 7) Check for 5H/5L and 9H/9LSaturn and Jupiter should aspect one or more of the above 4 points within 9 months of the birth.Mars should’ve aspected within 75 days Moon within 72 hrs.There are two important additional points here:1. The above are very general (can work several times in life) so one must read the important note on page 36, where he says that Navamsha, Saptamsha must be examined in the light of Mahadasha. But that has not been dealt with in Planets and Children. (page 14, as per his mother's instructions)) 2. Most important which keeps mentioning again and again:We must not jump to these methods without ascertaining the natal promise. From natal chart itself, a lot of correction can be done. I have tried to tabulate the natal promise, dasha and transit results, as well as varga positions for mahadashnath for the two lagnas and to see the comparative situation regarding the two child births.Presenting the table and you are free to draw your own conclusions. I have also marked my inferences as remarks alongside. Hope this will not get distorted in posting and be of some use. Event Description Aries Taurus Remarks Natal Promise 5H/5L/9H/9L 5L aspected by mars and sat, but 5H has aspect of 9L jup from 9H. Jup aspects LL/5 and rahu who is like a RYK in 5H 5L in 6H with LL, 5H asp by 7/12L mars and 9/10 lord sat from 8H, 5H has separator sun lord of 4H disposits Rahu. Karak Jup is 8/12 L in 8H. 5H has no benefic aspect Aries stronger to give quick results regarding children. Taurus shows problem/delay in having children D-9 9H Sagi rising, mars 5L in 4H in PAC with natal 5L, in Kendra. 5H in r/K axis, tough having YK mer. 9H Cp rising, LL in 9H, 5L in 6H aspected by mars and sat, 5H has 3/12 lord in 5H. 5L of D1 in r/k axis Not much difference D-7 Strong with libra rising, 5L/LL conjunct in 7H, exchange of 1/7 lords Though 5L Saturn is debilitated, it is in Kendra and with venus. Sc rising, mars in 12H, karak and 5L Jup deb in r/k axis, mars and sat asp weak 5L Jup, 5L, mer of D-1 deb in 5H. Saptamsha strong in aries indicating early arrival of children. For Taurus, D-7 indicates problems in childbirth and medical/remedial intervention required, if he has to get children First Childbirth Dasha Ve-Su MD aspects lagna, Antar of 5L Ven with 5L in 6H Aries stronger First child - transits 16.12.86 Jup in aqu Sat in sco Mars in Aqu Mo in gem Asp 5H Asp 5H Asp 5H/5L Asp 9H/9L No asp with 5L Asp 5H has aspected 9L Aries much stronger Satamsha Ve saptamsh LL with D-7 5L, aspecting lagna Sco rising, ven in 6H asp mars in 12H Aries stronger Navamsha 5L of nav mars asp ve and su in kendra Cap rising, venus 5L in 6H in D-9, asp by sat. Aries stronger Second childbirth Second child Dasha Ve-Mo MD nath asp lagna from 7H, Mo not connected MD nath with 5L in 6H, moon not connceted Aries has an edge supporting Kendra positions. Second child - Transits 21.9.1988 Jup in Tau sat in sagi Mars in Pis Mo in Cap Ju asp 5L sat in 9H over 9L asp 5L Mars asp 5L Moon has just crossed 9H Jup asp 5H/9H Sat asp 5H Mars asp 5H/5L Moon over 9H Both equal Satamsha Libra rising Ven is MDnath Ve D-7 LL with D-7 5L, aspecting lagna Ven in 6H with a deb sat asp deb 5L. Aries stronger Navamsha Venus-mo mars-sun-sat form a good aspect relation in Kendra. Venus in 6H, asp by mars/sat Weaker placements Conclusion: We know that the kids came in quickly after marriage. Natal promise of Taurus shows weakness in getting progeny, specially first normal child so soon is not possible for Taurus lagna. RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Dear Vijay Goel ji,//In this example i didn't devoted much time to it for BT as Bhaskerji had already done it, but my main focus on 'when sudden gains will come from property sell' and presented the snapshot view.// But you did say that lagna is Taurus without devoting much time! If such was the case, you should NOT have taken good reference od Shri KNR and his works like Planet and Children. It is totally wrong and unethical to state something taking a big name and then say you had not focused on it and rather your main focus was on property issue. Yet you quoted Rao ji as if that was your main basis of diagnosis. Would this not show his work in poor light when proven wrong by others? Without proper examination we cannot do justice to these works. Same thing happens with many dictums when we apply things loosely and blame astrology or ayanamsa or other such things. I have even heard some blame the natives also! I had not been paying attention to this thread, but since this controversy arose and you refered to Planet and Children, I found that taurus lagna has huge 5H afflictions and there has to be problem in getting the first child. Then I carried on further analysis, which I have put before the group. I have regards for you and I hope you will take it in the right spirit and be careful in future. Regards Neelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Respected Neelamji, ///But you did say that lagna is Taurus without devoting much time! If such was the case, you should NOT have taken good reference od Shri KNR and his works like Planet and Children. /// First I have checked the transit position of both kids on the tauras lagna and it was working as per KNR's method diagnosis, fine. Secondly i checked the death of father in antar dasa of rahu, look rahu in 4th House in D-1 (tauras lagna) than 10th House in D-9 (makar lagna) and rahu in 12H In D-12 (tauras lagna) aspecting 8th house. prayanter dasa was jupiter and it is debilitated in 9th house as 8L in D-12. (i forgot what more factors i checked at that time) So both factors indicate that i am not wrong and tauras lagna is working. The only thing is that i have not made comparison of all the divisional chart for Aries and Tauras lagna due to time constriant. Also this result was matching with Bhaskerji results. I have also quoted new example for more clarification on KNR's method in my explanation mail. Whatever i have done in time constraint in not at all unethical by putting forward the KNR's method which i am using for years and learnt directly from him at the lecture at Jaipur. Thankyou for the nice explanation you have put forward on this chart, i will read it again as soon as i get some free time for more learning. Thankyou for the right guidance and blessings, Regards, Vijay Goel Jaipur. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > //In this example i didn't devoted much time to it for BT as Bhaskerji had > already done it, but my main focus on 'when sudden gains will come from > property sell' and presented the snapshot view.// > > *But you did say that lagna is Taurus without devoting much time! If such > was the case, you should NOT have taken good reference od Shri KNR and his > works like Planet and Children*. It is totally wrong and unethical to state > something taking a big name and then say you had not focused on it and > rather your main focus was on property issue. Yet you quoted Rao ji as if > that was your main basis of diagnosis. > > Would this not show his work in poor light when proven wrong by > others?Without proper examination we cannot do justice to these works. > Same thing > happens with many dictums when we apply things loosely and blame astrology > or ayanamsa or other such things. I have even heard some blame the natives > also! > > I had not been paying attention to this thread, but since this controversy > arose and you refered to Planet and Children, I found that taurus lagna has > huge 5H afflictions and there has to be problem in getting the first child. > Then I carried on further analysis, which I have put before the group. > > I have regards for you and I hope you will take it in the right spirit and > be careful in future. > > Regards > Neelam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Dear Neelam-ji, Thank you. This is exactly what I was looking for. Regards Souvik , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear All, > > KNR's book Planets and Children, indicates the following rules to assess the > childbirth and correctness of horoscopes. > > *Dasha check (page 37)* > In 60 per cent of the cases, child birth takes place in the > mahadasha-antardasha of planets connected with Lagna/LL, 5H/5L or 9H/9L. > > *Transit results (page 7)* Check for 5H/5L and 9H/9L > > - Saturn and Jupiter should aspect one or more of the above 4 points > within 9 months of the birth. > - Mars should've aspected within 75 days > - Moon within 72 hrs. > > > *There are two important additional points here:* > *1. The above are very general (can work several times in life)* so one must > read the important note on page 36, where he says that Navamsha, Saptamsha > must be examined in the light of Mahadasha. But that has not been dealt with > in Planets and Children. (page 14, as per his mother's instructions)) > > *2. Most important which keeps mentioning again and again:* > We must not jump to these methods without ascertaining the natal promise. > From natal chart itself, a lot of correction can be done. > > I have tried to tabulate the natal promise, dasha and transit results, as > well as varga positions for mahadashnath for the two lagnas and to see the > comparative situation regarding the two child births. > > Presenting the table and you are free to draw your own conclusions. I have > also marked my inferences as remarks alongside. Hope this will not get > distorted in posting and be of some use. > > > *Event* > > *Description* > > *Aries* > > *Taurus* > > *Remarks* > > *Natal Promise * > > > > 5H/5L/9H/9L > > > > 5L aspected by mars and sat, but 5H has aspect of 9L jup from 9H. Jup > aspects LL/5 and rahu who is like a RYK in 5H > > 5L in 6H with LL, 5H asp by 7/12L mars and 9/10 lord sat from 8H, 5H has > separator sun lord of 4H disposits Rahu. Karak Jup is 8/12 L in 8H. 5H has > no benefic aspect > > > > Aries stronger to give quick results regarding children. > > > > Taurus shows problem/delay in having children > > D-9 > > 9H Sagi rising, mars 5L in 4H in PAC with natal 5L, in Kendra. 5H in r/K > axis, tough having YK mer. > > 9H Cp rising, LL in 9H, 5L in 6H aspected by mars and sat, 5H has 3/12 lord > in 5H. 5L of D1 in r/k axis > > Not much difference > > D-7 > > Strong with libra rising, 5L/LL conjunct in 7H, exchange of 1/7 lords > > Though 5L Saturn is debilitated, it is in Kendra and with venus. > > Sc rising, mars in 12H, karak and 5L Jup deb in r/k axis, mars and sat asp > weak 5L Jup, 5L, mer of D-1 deb in 5H. > > Saptamsha strong in aries indicating early arrival of children. > > For Taurus, D-7 indicates problems in childbirth and medical/remedial > intervention required, if he has to get children > > *First Childbirth* > > Dasha > > Ve-Su > > MD aspects lagna, > Antar of 5L > > Ven with 5L in 6H > > Aries stronger > > First child - transits > 16.12.86 > > Jup in aqu > Sat in sco > > Mars in Aqu > Mo in gem > > Asp 5H > Asp 5H > Asp 5H/5L > Asp 9H/9L > > No asp > with 5L > Asp 5H > has aspected 9L > > Aries much stronger > > Satamsha > > > > Ve saptamsh LL with D-7 5L, aspecting lagna > > Sco rising, ven in 6H asp mars in 12H > > Aries stronger > > Navamsha > > > > 5L of nav mars asp ve and su in kendra > > Cap rising, venus 5L in 6H in D-9, asp by sat. > > Aries stronger > > *Second childbirth* > > Second child > > Dasha > > Ve-Mo > > MD nath asp lagna from 7H, Mo not connected > > MD nath with 5L in 6H, moon not connceted > > Aries has an edge supporting Kendra positions. > > Second child - Transits > > 21.9.1988 > > Jup in Tau > sat in sagi > Mars in Pis > Mo in Cap > > Ju asp 5L > sat in 9H over 9L asp 5L > Mars asp 5L > Moon has just crossed 9H > > Jup asp 5H/9H > Sat asp 5H > Mars asp 5H/5L > Moon over 9H > > Both equal > > Satamsha > > Libra rising > > Ven is MDnath > > Ve D-7 LL with D-7 5L, aspecting lagna > > Ven in 6H with a deb sat asp deb 5L. > > Aries stronger > > Navamsha > > > > Venus-mo mars-sun-sat form a good aspect relation in Kendra. > > Venus in 6H, asp by mars/sat > > Weaker placements > > *Conclusion: > *We know that the kids came in quickly after marriage. Natal promise of > Taurus shows weakness in getting progeny, specially first normal child so > soon is not possible for Taurus lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > Neelam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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