Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Dear Manoj ji, As Sreenadh ji has explained, and I agree with him, 3-11 are for our progress in mundane world and they are good houses for all material gains. 3-11 have a special role in causing blemish to kendra-kona lordships in their dasha antars. Kendra-kona form the core of an individual and are also responsible for taking the soul forward on its journey. Material bondages often hamper that growth, that might be the reason for calling the lords malefic, as I said in my previous also. These are also part of kaam trikon and give desires which take one away from our real purpose of life. You might be familiar with the Miracle BABA of Sh KN RAO. No one considers 3-11 bad for materialistic progress. Even 6H would be good in that sense if it were not associated with diseases and debts. It is 6H which is karma of bhagya and bhagya of karma! How can it be bad also? But of one has to pay for his deeds then disease would be given by 6H. But it will also give the strength to fight them, competition, financial stability, work, etc. We can look at MS Subbulakshmi's chart for 3H results as she got a long Jupiter's dasha at the prime of her career. 16.9.1916/9.30/ Madurai. Regards Neelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Dear Shri Sreenadh garu, I am normally a sleeping member and would like to get back to my dreams but one day I found the great illusion called Rahu being discussed in the third house, I could not refrain myself from citing some principles that have been developed out of experience. I have been called a man who does not even know basics of astrology and that such people fall flat. No problems because there is a famous saying in english, " wise men seldom agree ...... " so maybe I was sort of being called a wise person for my disagreement. Third house or for that matter sixth house or for that matter eleventh house, are all good and all are bad. Planets give their results during their dashas only. Any house in a horoscope is not an individual identity. It is linked with all the rest of eleven houses in the chart. Its an interwoven story of houses and planets which unfold only during their dashas. As you have mentioned in your mail, if people do have genuine intentions, they are in the first place requested to test out what I had said and even post their charts for discussion here. Healthy discussions are always welcome. While posting the charts, they are also requested to post the complete birth details. best regards, Manoj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Neelam ji, Perhaps you missed my point where I have already clarified it. You can discuss it with Col. Gour to find out more. regards, Manoj ________________________________ neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Monday, June 1, 2009 4:25:25 PM Re:Rahu_ 1H Dear Manoj ji, As Sreenadh ji has explained, and I agree with him, 3-11 are for our progress in mundane world and they are good houses for all material gains. 3-11 have a special role in causing blemish to kendra-kona lordships in their dasha antars. Kendra-kona form the core of an individual and are also responsible for taking the soul forward on its journey. Material bondages often hamper that growth, that might be the reason for calling the lords malefic, as I said in my previous also. These are also part of kaam trikon and give desires which take one away from our real purpose of life. You might be familiar with the Miracle BABA of Sh KN RAO. No one considers 3-11 bad for materialistic progress. Even 6H would be good in that sense if it were not associated with diseases and debts. It is 6H which is karma of bhagya and bhagya of karma! How can it be bad also? But of one has to pay for his deeds then disease would be given by 6H. But it will also give the strength to fight them, competition, financial stability, work, etc. We can look at MS Subbulakshmi' s chart for 3H results as she got a long Jupiter's dasha at the prime of her career. 16.9.1916/9. 30/ Madurai. Regards Neelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Dear Neelamji, Quote What is good for materialistic growth may not be well received in the esoteric realm.hat is good for materialistic growth may not be well received in the esoteric realm. Unquote Wellsaid. This reminds me of a story and hope you all will not mind my sharing with you all. The sory is something like this. Once the sage Narada desired to marry and he went to a swayamvara and prayed to the Lord to do whatever is good to him. Narada was confident that the Lord will help him to win the bride. But he was disappointed. Then he asked the Lord as to why the Lord did not help him. The Lord said that it would not have been good for him to marry that princess. I think some stars, particularly Ketu, has more esoteric effects. Kindly correct me if I am wrong. Neelamji, If the Lord of the 3rd house is Saturn and is neecha in the 6th house of Makara then what will be its effect? Will the Saturn then be beneficial? Regards, Sunil K. Bhattacharjya --- On Mon, 6/1/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Re: Re:Rahu_ 1H Monday, June 1, 2009, 1:53 AM Dear Manoj ji, Just a few words, not too much of theory, if you permit. Let us not brush away something if there is a difference of opinion? It is better look for the right answer as we all become a little wiser after the discussion? BPHS cannot have two opinions about one issue. Key planet theory is lordship based and not house-based. Trishadaya lords, not houses, have been considered inauspicious or evil by Parashara. If these lords have association with other kona or Kendra lords the rajayoga is said to be blemished (sadosh). Trishadaya houses, as such, are not condemned by the rishi. It is their lords, in their dasha-antar which give inauspicious results when they connect with Kendra-trikona lords. 11H, for example is the highest and strongest of Trishadayas, but it is labhsthan and planets are said to give good results here. Any lord in 11H would enhance and multiply its results. It would never be taken as a bad placement. Similarly the 3H, where planets give good results. Even debilitated planets are good in 3/11. Trishadaya houses have the capability to lift the native by becoming upchaya if karma of 10H is added to them making 3-6-10-11 the key to rise in life. 6th is the only house, which is a Upachaya, Dusthana or trik and a Trisadaya and suffers the blemish of a bad house and planets become inauspicious by going to 6H. Only trik houses have been said to be inauspicious for other lords to fall in, or their lords are said to spoil the significations of house they occupy. Astrology was not always meant for day-to-day affairs and ripu, randhra and moksha bhavas also have much deeper significations than we actually judge from them. Why are Trishadaya lords associated with inauspiciousness? 3-11 are the Bhavat Bhavam of trik houses 6-8-12, hence they carry out the sookshm Trik House mandate by associating with other lords. Astrology can be unfolded at various levels. What is good for materialistic growth may not be well received in the esoteric realm. One has to overcome the temptations of 11H to achieve moksha in 12H. Hope this helps Regards Neelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Dear Sunil ji,//3rd house is Saturn and is neecha in the 6th house of Makara then what will be its effect? Will the Saturn then be beneficial?// Well, difficult to say much for an isolated placement. One has to check how this Saturn is interacting with other placements and vargas and dashas. Anyhow, let me try..This will be for Scorpio lagna and saturn is a functional malefic for this lagna as well as inimical to LL. Although a neecha 3L in 6H is said to be good (a kind of vipreet rajyoga), I've always seen neecha planets giving deficiencies and problems, specially the neecha malefics, though in houses like 3/6 they also give the power and courage to withstand adversities, provided lagna is strong. They seem to take their toll from the native. Apparently everything might look good but it is never smooth sailing with neecha planets, even in trishadaya or upchay. Malefics always harm the jeev, so it might deprive him happiness through/of siblings, even though it will not deny siblings as it also aspects own 3H. Saturn as lord of effort in house of strife could create work-related/labour problems or long working hours which could affect health/lagna. He could face problems related to his servants, subordinates, etc, which he will also overcome as malefic would also suppress the enemies. It could produce some chronic health disorder as saturn also aspects 3H/8H and 12H. As 4L in 6H, it can result in property disputes, disputes with maternal uncles, etc, problem with mother. Basically I would say that native would always appear to be making efforts, running around, doing a lot of work, but most of it would be troubleshooting. 6H problems being tackled with 3H efforts. If the native gets saturn’s dasha, he would not be able to come out of this vicious circle. If 10/11 houses are good and lagna is strong, he would also prosper and rise in career, otherwise his life can be difficult.Is it any special case which you’re referring to or general results?RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Dear Sreenadji, I have completed ( almost ) two MD's ( Vimshotri ) Saturn & Mercury - both debilitated planets ! Lagna - Aries. Lord of 3/6 ( Mercury ) and 10/11 ( Saturn ). Looks like Parashar was pretty accurate. It has been a long haul ( not over yet ) but i will try to recollect and give feedback. Chiranjiv --- On Mon, 1/6/09, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Sreenadh <sreesog Re:Rahu_ 1H Monday, 1 June, 2009, 3:51 PM Dear Manoj ji, //Regarding your contention that third house is good but third lord is bad. This does sound strange to me, do not know what other learned and esteemed members of the forum would think about it.// It is not so - there is no such contradiction. Clearly 3rd house is good and so is 3rd lord; 11th house is good and so is 11th lord. The only point is that, as per Parasara's opinion, in Vimsottari dasa based prediction, the Dasa of 3rd, 6th and 11th house lords will not be beneficial. Please note that, this SPECIAL RULE - * is applicable only in the case of Vimsottari dasa. * is applicable only in Parasari system (Arsha, Garga or Yavana school does not support this special rule) Now coming to practical application, why don't we take some horoscope and try to see the results produced by 3rd house lord? I can suggest numerous examples such as - * Aries lagna 3rd lord mercury. What are the result this mercury is supposed to produce? (Whether it is good or bad?) How would be the dasa of Mercury? (i.e. what are the results to be predicted in Mercury Vimsottari dasa?) * Virgo lagna 11th lord Moon. What are the results this Moon is supposed to produce? (whetehr it is good or bad?) How would be the dasa of Moon? (i.e. what are the results to be predicted in Moon Vimsottari dasa?) * Pisces lagna. 6th lord Sun. What are ther results this Sun is supposed to produce? (whetehr it is good or bad?) How would be the dasa of Sun? (i.e. what are the results to be predicted in Sun Vimsottari dasa?) But better than producing such artifical examples, I would prefer the actaul practical scenario - and so would request some active member of the group to present the a chart (not the details, just the lagna, required house lord only - if the related dasa is already over that much better) that fullfill our need. We will just present our derived results, and let the individual who presented the chart verify whether the derived results are right or wrong? What do you say? Me too don't like the too much theoretical attitude, if it is not in tune with reality and practical usefulness. Love and regards, Sreenadh ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99.> wrote: > > Dear Neelam ji, > > I do not believe in quoting this or that text or getting to thread-bare minimums of something. For me, if some thing works then it works on the horoscopes and not on papers. So I gave that input while discussion was going around Rahu in the third house and being eldest or youngest in the same sex and further added that Rahu or placement of malefics in the third house would generally upset the harmoniousness of marriage of parents. And this was nothing but a simple extension of the Bhavat Bhavam Principle for which no complexities are required. > > Regarding your contention that third house is good but third lord is bad. This does sound strange to me, do not know what other learned and esteemed members of the forum would think about it. > > Then did I say, third house, is always a malefic house. I said, evil houses do produce good and good houses do produce evils. > > I am sorry, I do not understand " bhari-bharkam " words like esoteric and et al. What I simply understand is that the houses which are spiritually bad are materialistically good and the houses which are materialistically good are the houses which have been termed as " malefic " houses by Parashar and other writers. So please, now lets drop this and if you are willing, go ahead and test out what I had stated on the collection of the charts you have and come up with your finding. That is going to help the fraternity of astrologers and not the endless discussions on a single issue. > > I am sorry, if I have offended anyone on the wrong side, or trying to get into an out of bound place. > > Waiting for your findings. > > best regards, > > Manoj > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Dear Sreenadh ji and all, Because of some good reasons i am also much interested in Rahu in 1st house. Lagna is cancer and also mars is there. After reading all the messages on this topic i am still confused of the malefic or benefic effect of rahu. If one is interested to explain and needs more details on that chart please ask. Any reply would be much appreciated. Thank you. Regards, Liana , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear All, > Can we discuss Rahu in 1H in more detail? Let us have a clear > understanding about the results it produce. [] > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , Anita R <ash.rsh55@> > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > It is true in the case of my daughter who is not in a govt job but in > IT and also in my sisters case and she is in a leading pvt sector bank. > > Regs, > > Anita > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Dear all, If You wish you may take up my chart as an example for discussion with Rahu and Mars in first House in Leo. Most of you already know about the good and bad facets of my nature, and any further details oif anyone wishes to know one may feel free to ask, and be assured of an honset answer and reply. (But dont ask the names of my Girfriends I had when I was more younger) My details. 28th June 1961 10.15am 16.45N 81.09E Eluru (Near Vijaywada) Lagna Leo 16.06 degrees (KP Ayanamsha) regards/Bhaskar. , "blulisan" <blulisan wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh ji and all,> > Because of some good reasons i am also much interested in Rahu in 1st house. Lagna is cancer and also mars is there.> After reading all the messages on this topic i am still confused of the malefic or benefic effect of rahu.> If one is interested to explain and needs more details on that chart please ask. > Any reply would be much appreciated.> Thank you.> > Regards,> > Liana > > , "Sreenadh" sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear All,> > Can we discuss Rahu in 1H in more detail? Let us have a clear> > understanding about the results it produce. []> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > , Anita R <ash.rsh55@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Hi,> > > It is true in the case of my daughter who is not in a govt job but in> > IT and also in my sisters case and she is in a leading pvt sector bank.> > > Regs,> > > Anita> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Dear Liana ji, Rahu in lagna can give both good and bad results, as per his capability. Let me quote from ancient astro classics - As per Garga hora – Sarvanga rogee vikalaH kumoortiH kuchailadhari kunakhi kukarma AdharmikaH sahasakarmadakshi raktekshanaschandraripou tanuste (Garga hora) [if Rahu is in lagna, he may have trouble or disease to all the limbs, will not have peace of mind, will not be beautiful, will wear dirty cloths, will have bad nails, will do bad deeds, will not be religious, and will have reddish sharp eyes] As per experience, all the above statements are applicable only in Rahu dasa and also only if Rahu is placed in a malefic lagna. If the lagna lord is benefic then the above results will not apply. A generally applicable result for Rahu in Lagna is given by Garga separately, in the following quote – Rahau lagnagate jataH sanchayo yatrakutrachit Simhakarkani meshe cha swarnalabhaya mangalaH (Garga hora) [if Rahu is in lagna, native will have the nature of saving wealth and money such as gold as some safe deposits. If Leo, Cancer or Aries is lagna (since Sun, Moon and Mars and the signs Leo, Cancer, Aries can signify gold) and if Mars is placed in it, this is a combination that shows the gain of gold with certainty (during the dasa of Rahu)] As per Bhrigu sutra – Mrita prasutiH Meshavrishabhe karkarasiste dayavan Bahubhogi Asubhe subhadrishte mukhalanchani (Brigu sutra) [if Rahu or ketu is present in Lagna then the native will have a dead child (this could be giving birth to a dead child, an abortion, of death of child just after birth). If this Rahu is placed in Aries, Taurus or Cancer (in lagna) then the native would be a very kind individual (and may become nurse, astrologer etc). If Rahu is in any of the above three signs (i.e. Aries-Taurus-Cancer), then the native will enjoy life in many ways (materialistic and worldly well-being and enjoyment is mentioned here). If Rahu or Ketu in lagna is aspected by any planet then the native will have symbol of the same in his face – such as mole etc – based on whether it is a benefic or malefic planet (benefic planet will provide a good symbol and malefic a bad or black mark)] As per chamalkara chintamani – Swavakye sarthaH paresham pratapal Prabhavatsamaschadayetswan pararthan Tamo yesya lagne sa bhagnari veeryaH Kalatre dhritim bhooridaropi yayal (chamalkara chintamani) [if Rahu is in lagna, he will be good in realizing his own words by utilizing the ability of others. He will collect much wealth, utilizing the ability of others. He will destroy the courage of his enemies. Even though he may have many wives (due to his interest in worldly life and sex), he will not have much hurry in wife (and sexual matters, due to his passive attitude)] Apart from the above results, the tradition provides numerous results such as the following for Rahu in Lagna – If Rahu is in lagna he will have less longevity only. (.e. He may die around 50-70 years or earlier )He will not be much religious, will have bad habits (such as smoking, use of tobacco etc), He will have less number of children only. (And may loss children due to abortion etc as well)The native may get disease in organs above neck (since Rahu symbolically represent a headless body) – such as ear, nose, eye trouble etcHe would be strong and very intelligent (especially crooked intellect, to achieve his goals)If the Lagna lord is strong then, bad results should NOT be ascribed to Rahu. If Rahu in Lagna is placed in Scorpio or Capricorn, then it is very bad if especially aspected by a malefic then he will have many diseases.He will have many diseases, he will have bad nails, a disturbed (non-peaceful) mind, and a not-so-beautiful houseHe may wear bad clothsHe will successfully complete jobs that demand both courage and abilityHe will do many very bad but courageous deas I think this much is enough for the first go…. ;)Love and regards, Sreenadh , "blulisan" <blulisan wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh ji and all,> > Because of some good reasons i am also much interested in Rahu in 1st house. Lagna is cancer and also mars is there.> After reading all the messages on this topic i am still confused of the malefic or benefic effect of rahu.> If one is interested to explain and needs more details on that chart please ask. > Any reply would be much appreciated.> Thank you.> > Regards,> > Liana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Thank you Neelamji for the very good analysis and it applies to a special case too. Regards, Sunil K. Bhattacharjya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Dear members, I am adding few more points to Ms Neelam ji's original mail.... 3H or 3HL cannot be negative. The dasha of 3HL is best thing to happen according to me... 1) It is 11H & 11HL from 5H. So all your past karmas - good/bad, get activiated. You get dividends of your past. If good, people raise.... like the case of Smt. M.S. Subbhalakshmi. If the 5H is afflicted or 5HL is badly placed & afflicted..etc., surely the past karmas are also bad then strength of the 3H & 3HL is the sole life saving jacket for that native.... 2) Similarly, 11H & 11HL. It is 6H from 6H. 6H is all about debts past & present. So 11H & 11HL is strong, you atleast have opportunity to pay back your debts. {There will be a category of members in the group, who would immediately jump and ask what is the prediction on debts for those whose 6HL is in 6H ... more debts or less debts...??} Would leave it for others to respond on this... Ofcourse, 6H is also about your valiant efforts to beat competition. 3) Ofcourse, 3H or 3HL dasha would not be so smooth to give its results...for 3H is a upachaya...so tribulations has to be there... 4) One may not be interested in the sanskrit slokas, but cannot ignore that the basics of astrology were learnt from these very sanskrit slokas. Example:- In a training course on communication, a group of 9 people were selected, one person was shown a picture for 10 seconds (free hand drawn sketch) of a lady sipping coconut at a beach resort, and was asked to communicate the picture to Second person (2 minutes time maximum), then Second person to communicate it 3rd person...so on on on....after the round robin is finished, the entire is gathered and shown the picture and asked to evaluate the description given to them.... The result - the description given to the final person is turned out to be anyone's imagination - for it was most wildest.... Conclusion: To avoid such dilution, it is always good to revisit the original slokas and get correct meaning to avoid dilution. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Dear Neelam ji, I hope you are aware of Dwi-saptati sama dasha. Let me first answer your questions one by one. *As Sreenadh ji has explained, and I agree with him, 3-11 are for our progress in mundane world and they are good houses for all material gains. 3-11 have a special role in causing blemish to kendra-kona lordships in their dasha antars. Kendra-kona form the core of an individual and are also responsible for taking the soul forward on its journey. Material bondages often hamper that growth, that might be the reason for calling the lords malefic, as I said in my previous also. These are also part of kaam trikon and give desires which take one away from our real purpose of life.* Offcourse, who denies it and when I have stated anything against it. Third house, the house of efforts, sixth house, the house of competitions and consequent is the 11th, the house of gains. But tell me, has third house been ever called a benefic house. The above contention is a derivation, not the basic. If third was a good house, why do you then prefer malefic's placement there, not a benefic. So much so, that benefics are almost regarded as a waste when placed there. And do planets give results other than in their dashas? Think over it. *You might be familiar with the Miracle BABA of Sh KN RAO. No one considers 3-11 bad for materialistic progress. Even 6H would be good in that sense if it were not associated with diseases and debts. It is 6H which is karma ofbhagya and bhagya of karma! How can it be bad also? But of one has to pay for his deeds then disease would be given by 6H. But it will also give the strength to fight them, competition, financial stability, work, etc.* Anwer already given. But only adding that check the dasha of sixth house lord and planets placed there and do you experience rise/fall in the profession of your parents at that time. In the dasha of a planet associated with third house, lordship, placement or otherwise, do you experience troubles in your professional life. A debilitated third lord's dasha has been termed as an exception by Parashara. If it would have been a thumb rule, then in that case, Parashara had no grounds of terming it as an "exception". *We can look at MS Subbulakshmi' s chart for 3H results as she got a long Jupiter's dasha at the prime of her career.* Come to the period, 1959-1975, Jupiter's dasha. MS, nightangale of India enjoyed this period during that time. Correspondingly, she passed through the periods of Rahu/Sun/Moon in dwisaptati sama dasha. Examine these dashas and come to your conclusion. best regards, Manoj16.9.1916/9. 30/ Madurai.RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Dear Srinivas ji, Thanks for the informative mail. //There will be a category of members in the group, who would immediately jump and ask what is the prediction on debts for those whose 6HL is in 6H ... more debts or less debts...??} Would leave it for others to respond on this... Ofcourse, 6H is also about your valiant efforts to beat competition.// Strong 6th house increases (more) the benefic results of 6th house and decreases (less) the malefic results. This means that if 6th lord is in 6th then - * The native will have many enemies but would be unaffected by enemies due to his valor, ability, cruelty and capability. * The native will have many salient diseases but would be generally unaffected by diseases due to his resistance to diseases and will. * The native will have much debt (such as loans), but none that disturbs him. The debt or loans will be just natural for him, helping to improve his kingdom and financial capability. So it is more debts but very less disturbing debts (and more wealth) - and so in effect it would be less debt only and not more debt. I would love to see opinion of others and words which confirm or negate this. Love and regards, Sreenadh , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote:>> > Dear members,> > I am adding few more points to Ms Neelam ji's original mail....> > 3H or 3HL cannot be negative. The dasha of 3HL is best thing to> happen according to me...> > 1) It is 11H & 11HL from 5H. So all your past karmas - good/bad, get> activiated. You get dividends of your past. If good, people raise....> like the case of Smt. M.S. Subbhalakshmi. If the 5H is afflicted or> 5HL is badly placed & afflicted..etc., surely the past karmas are also> bad then strength of the 3H & 3HL is the sole life saving jacket for> that native....> > 2) Similarly, 11H & 11HL. It is 6H from 6H. 6H is all about debts past> & present. So 11H & 11HL is strong, you atleast have opportunity to pay> back your debts. {There will be a category of members in the group, who> would immediately jump and ask what is the prediction on debts for those> whose 6HL is in 6H ... more debts or less debts...??} Would leave it for> others to respond on this... Ofcourse, 6H is also about your valiant> efforts to beat competition.> > 3) Ofcourse, 3H or 3HL dasha would not be so smooth to give its> results...for 3H is a upachaya...so tribulations has to be there...> > 4) One may not be interested in the sanskrit slokas, but cannot ignore> that the basics of astrology were learnt from these very sanskrit> slokas.> > Example:- In a training course on communication, a group of 9 people> were selected, one person was shown a picture for 10 seconds (free hand> drawn sketch) of a lady sipping coconut at a beach resort, and was asked> to communicate the picture to Second person (2 minutes time maximum), > then Second person to communicate it 3rd person...so on on on....after> the round robin is finished, the entire is gathered and shown the> picture and asked to evaluate the description given to them....> > The result - the description given to the final person is turned out to> be anyone's imagination - for it was most wildest....> > Conclusion: To avoid such dilution, it is always good to revisit the> original slokas and get correct meaning to avoid dilution.> > With regards,> > Sreeram_Srinivas> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Dear Friends, Kindly post your charts in case you have undergone the dasha of third lord, a planet in the third house and/or planet associated with the third house and the tensions/obstacles/transfers in your professional arenas. regards, Manoj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Mars is deb. in Cancer. Cojoining with Rahu must have sapped the energy of Mars - lord of 10th ( father in N.Indian astro ) & 5th ( check 1st child , edu, love etc. )Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Mon, 1/6/09, blulisan <blulisan wrote: blulisan <blulisan Re:Rahu_ 1H Date: Monday, 1 June, 2009, 9:31 PM Dear Sreenadh ji and all,Because of some good reasons i am also much interested in Rahu in 1st house. Lagna is cancer and also mars is there.After reading all the messages on this topic i am still confused of the malefic or benefic effect of rahu.If one is interested to explain and needs more details on that chart please ask. Any reply would be much appreciated.Thank you.Regards,Liana ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sreenadh" <sreesog > wrote:>> Dear All,> Can we discuss Rahu in 1H in more detail? Let us have a clear> understanding about the results it produce. []> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R <ash.rsh55@>> wrote:> >> > Hi,> > It is true in the case of my daughter who is not in a govt job but in> IT and also in my sisters case and she is in a leading pvt sector bank.> > Regs,> > Anita> Own a website.Get an unlimited package.Pay next to nothing.* Click here!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Dear Sreenadh ji, I am sorry for delay in my reply, but here is am now thanking you for this good and informative post. Now i really understand better rahu on 1H. There are few questions i would like to make clear.Please bear me i am still a beginner in Jyotisha. Does rahu has any planetary friendship? I mean is there a battle between rahu/mars on lagna and lets say ketu and saturn on 7H? Does Rahu has friendly houses or signs (you mentioned malefic lagna) where it manifests benefic or malefic? I have few very close persons having rahu in lagna (one cancer lagna, leo lagna and pisces lagna)and trying to understand how rahu acts in these different situations. Hopping to put all puzzle pieces together... Thank you. Regards, Liana , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Liana ji, > Rahu in lagna can give both good and bad results, as per his > capability. Let me quote from ancient astro classics - > > As per Garga hora – > > Sarvanga rogee vikalaH kumoortiH kuchailadhari kunakhi kukarma > > AdharmikaH sahasakarmadakshi raktekshanaschandraripou tanuste > > > (Garga hora) > > [if Rahu is in lagna, he may have trouble or disease to all the limbs, > will not have peace of mind, will not be beautiful, will wear dirty > cloths, will have bad nails, will do bad deeds, will not be religious, > and will have reddish sharp eyes] > > As per experience, all the above statements are applicable only in Rahu > dasa and also only if Rahu is placed in a malefic lagna. If the lagna > lord is benefic then the above results will not apply. > > A generally applicable result for Rahu in Lagna is given by Garga > separately, in the following quote – > > Rahau lagnagate jataH sanchayo yatrakutrachit > > Simhakarkani meshe cha swarnalabhaya mangalaH > > (Garga hora) > > [if Rahu is in lagna, native will have the nature of saving wealth and > money such as gold as some safe deposits. If Leo, Cancer or Aries is > lagna (since Sun, Moon and Mars and the signs Leo, Cancer, Aries can > signify gold) and if Mars is placed in it, this is a combination that > shows the gain of gold with certainty (during the dasa of Rahu)] > > As per Bhrigu sutra – > > Mrita prasutiH Meshavrishabhe karkarasiste dayavan > > Bahubhogi Asubhe subhadrishte mukhalanchani > > (Brigu > sutra) > > [if Rahu or ketu is present in Lagna then the native will have a dead > child (this could be giving birth to a dead child, an abortion, of death > of child just after birth). If this Rahu is placed in Aries, Taurus or > Cancer (in lagna) then the native would be a very kind individual (and > may become nurse, astrologer etc). If Rahu is in any of the above three > signs (i.e. Aries-Taurus-Cancer), then the native will enjoy life in > many ways (materialistic and worldly well-being and enjoyment is > mentioned here). If Rahu or Ketu in lagna is aspected by any planet then > the native will have symbol of the same in his face – such as mole > etc – based on whether it is a benefic or malefic planet (benefic > planet will provide a good symbol and malefic a bad or black mark)] > > > > As per chamalkara chintamani – > > Swavakye sarthaH paresham pratapal > > Prabhavatsamaschadayetswan pararthan > > Tamo yesya lagne sa bhagnari veeryaH > > Kalatre dhritim bhooridaropi yayal > > (chamalkara chintamani) > > [if Rahu is in lagna, he will be good in realizing his own words by > utilizing the ability of others. He will collect much wealth, utilizing > the ability of others. He will destroy the courage of his enemies. Even > though he may have many wives (due to his interest in worldly life and > sex), he will not have much hurry in wife (and sexual matters, due to > his passive attitude)] > > Apart from the above results, the tradition provides numerous results > such as the following for Rahu in Lagna – > > * If Rahu is in lagna he will have less longevity only. (.e. He > may die around 50-70 years or earlier ) > * He will not be much religious, will have bad habits (such as > smoking, use of tobacco etc), > * He will have less number of children only. (And may loss > children due to abortion etc as well) > * The native may get disease in organs above neck (since Rahu > symbolically represent a headless body) – such as ear, nose, > eye trouble etc > * He would be strong and very intelligent (especially crooked > intellect, to achieve his goals) > * If the Lagna lord is strong then, bad results should NOT be > ascribed to Rahu. > * If Rahu in Lagna is placed in Scorpio or Capricorn, then it is > very bad if especially aspected by a malefic then he will have many > diseases. > * He will have many diseases, he will have bad nails, a > disturbed (non-peaceful) mind, and a not-so-beautiful house > * He may wear bad cloths > * He will successfully complete jobs that demand both courage > and ability > * He will do many very bad but courageous deas > > I think this much is enough for the first go…. > > > > > Love and regards, > > Sreenadh > > > , " blulisan " > <blulisan@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji and all, > > > > Because of some good reasons i am also much interested in Rahu in 1st > house. Lagna is cancer and also mars is there. > > After reading all the messages on this topic i am still confused of > the malefic or benefic effect of rahu. > > If one is interested to explain and needs more details on that chart > please ask. > > Any reply would be much appreciated. > > Thank you. > > > > Regards, > > > > Liana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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