Kala Sarpa in real force

January 18, 2009

A nice one Bhaskar ji. Just a few additions/suggestions:

Is it not paradoxical that Ketu is at sahasrara while His presiding

deity Ganapati is at muladhara? Of course, that does not undermine

His mokshakarakatva, since Ganapati is Paravak at muladhara, the lord

and goal of nivritti marga (perhaps why ketu in nivritti/vyaya sthana

is better off ensuring moksha).

Kundalini path has six major cakras, associated with three granthis

(two cakras per granthi starting from muladhara) - they are Brahma,

Vishnu and Rudra granthis. These three are also three khandas - Agni,

Surya and Candra khandas (we know Agni, Aditya and Soma are associated

with Brahma, Vishnu and Rudra).

Kumaraswamy, who is Agni, represents Agni-Angaraka in the grahas. It

thus reinforces how He should belong to Agni khanda. Similarly Aditya

belongs to Manipura which falls in Surya khanda. Soma/Moon would fall

into Candra khanda. Guru, whose presiding deity is Siva, also falls in

Candra khanda. The grahas that carry aspects of those pradhana devatas

would also fall in those respective khandas.

Going by this logic I would slightly differ in the association. In

fact six/seven is only the major count, but there are minor ones in

the path too and those above neck are also counted sometimes. The

seven major ones occupy seven centers and chaya grahas would be the

smaller cakras.

Please do not think I am disagreeing or pointing anything at your nice

post. Samanvaya can be done in multiple ways and therefore none of

them is wrong. I am only hinting at another possibility.

, " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

January 18, 2009

A nice one Bhaskar ji. Just a few additions/suggestions: Is it not paradoxical that Ketu are at sahasrara while their presiding deity Ganapati is at muladhara? Of course, that does not undermine their mokshakarakatva, since Ganapati is Paravak at muladhara, the lord and goal of nivritti marga - perhaps why ketu in nivritti/vyaya sthana is better off for moksha (Though there is no need to be explaining this, let me just add for the

sake of clarity, that by nivritti I mean the nivritti marga from

vagbhava to muladhara, in which one proceeds inwards from vaikhari to

madhyama to pasyanti to para vak. This is the opposite of pravritti

marga which is upwards, starts as para and finally manifests as

vaikhari.). Kundalini path has six major cakras, associated with three granthis (two cakras per granthi starting from muladhara) - they are Brahma, Vishnu and Rudra granthis. These three are also three khandas - Agni, Surya and Candra khandas (we know Agni, Aditya and Soma are associated with Brahma, Vishnu and Rudra). Kumaraswamy, who is Agni, represents Agni-Angaraka in the grahas. It thus reinforces how He should belong to Agni khanda. Similarly Aditya belongs to Manipura which falls in Surya khanda. Soma/Moon would fall into Candra khanda. Guru, whose presiding deity is Siva, also falls in Candra khanda. The grahas that carry aspects of those pradhana devatas would also fall in those respective khandas. Going by this logic I would slightly differ in the association. In fact six/seven is only the major count, but there are minor ones in the path too and those above neck are also counted sometimes. The seven major grahas occupy

seven centers and chaya grahas might be the smaller cakras, or even just be the chayas! Please do not think I am disagreeing or pointing anything at your nice post. Samanvaya can be done in multiple ways and therefore none of them is wrong. I am only hinting at another possibility.

January 19, 2009

Dear Goel ji,

// Mars could be one of the reason for child birth but not the major one as > you have associated with mula chakra. //

This may be a debateble issue.

// Weak or afflicted mars could be > one of the problems of child birth but

not necessary.//

Absolutely right.

> I think all the planets are responsible for childbirth. Two luminaries > sun and moon is the giver of soul and mind, next five planets (except > rahu and ketu) gives five basic elements to form a body. so in kundalini > chakra scheme these seven planets with bodies will represent seven chakras.

Of course all have to combine to help the new soul gain entry in this Loka.

> Rahu and ketu are karmic planets and the cause of rebirth. They > represent the boundaries of the Bhulok (earth or ascendent) or any other > lokas. It may represent the entry gate and exit gate for an ascendent as > ascendent could be present in any loka.

Could be very much possible.

> So as per rahu and ketu position we can ascertain our reasons for > re-birth and moksha from these birth totally or from this loka to another.

Very true.

regards/Bhaskar.

January 19, 2009

Dear Bharadwajji,

My mail cannot be called authentic because I have not mentioned any

shastric reference to the same. Whatever I have learnt while doing a

course on Tele-therapy ( Healing through distance, by Cosmic rays) few

years back, I have just put part of it over here.

You are right about " Samanvaya can be done in multiple ways " . I have

not much knowledge about Khandas and Granthis except very basic. I am

still in Vaikhari and paravak is not for me presently.

I agree abou the seven major grahas occupy seven centers and chaya

grahas might be the smaller cakras, or even just be the chayas!

best wishes, and thanks for the illuminating side of your note.

Bhaskar.

January 19, 2009

Dear Bhaskarji,

Please accept my standing ovation for such an indepth explanation in the last 2 mails.

I was expecting more add ons by other members; I think they will come soon.

In the meanwhile I got to see a horoscope on Sunday which has :

Asc : Pisces

4th house : Rahu, Mangal, Budh & Sun.

5th house : Sukra

8th house : Tula Rashi Sani ®

9th house : Jupiter ®

10th house : KETU, MOOLA NAKSHATRA, (SAG)

11th house : Chandra

I think born in 1985. Parents ( far relatives ) had sent for prospective alliance.I want to know what effect this Ketu will give her. I personally talked with her Dad and asked her what she does, just to cross check with your observations.

Please do not consider it a free reading. Let me know about the effects of KETU in Moola Nakshatra.

Thanks & Regards

Chiranjiv

--- On Sat, 17/1/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Kala Sarpa in real force Date: Saturday, 17 January, 2009, 4:44 PM

Re-Joinder

We were talking about Mula. Its nothing but the root , from where you come. The ground from where the potato comes,

from where the Mula ( White vegetable) comes .

The origin - Mula nakshatra ruled by Ketu.

But first we shall talk of the Muladhar chakra

in very short. This chakra represents the Bhu-Loka or

the physical plane. It is symbolised by 4 petals

known as Vang,Shang,kshang, and Sang.

for our sake kshang signifies the orhgans of generation

and sex desire. Sang represents reproducrtion.

the ruling planet as I said in my earlier mail, is Mars here.

Which is why I said that without a averagely good Mars one

cannot have a child or even proper sex. The vayu for

this chakra is apan vayu, the air that expels the semen from

the male organ, and also which pushes the child from the

womb during birth. Mooladhar is the seat of the Kundalini

Shakti.

From whence you came, thence you will go finally.

We are the ansha of parmatma, and known as atma .

Unless we raise ourselves to the level of opening the

1000 petals in the Sahasra Chakra we can never reach

the Satyam Loka or Tejas Loka represented by Ketu.

Connection of the Kundalini with Sahasra Chakra.

When the Kundalini is raised upto the Sahasra Chakra, the illusion of

"individual" self is dissolved. The Yogi becomes realized. He encounters Kamadhenu the wish fulfilling cow within himself ( There is also a point in the Horoscope chart known as Kamadhenu point, but cannot talk about it presently ).

The Mooladhara thus has the power to raise one to the mokshkaraka Ketu if one is able to raise the Energy of Mars and channelise it to this level.

The Mula nakshatra represented by Mula is nothing but the significations of Ketu in this combination of Stars, which are our roots from where we came, and where we will go, back to Godhead, someday or the other, some janma or the other.

regards/bhaskar

ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Neelamji, Chiranjiviji and the others.> As usual I could only expect a beautiful post from you, which I feel> incompetent enough to supplement another, with the same fineese which> you possess. You are extremely true to the word of what has been> written. Rahu and Ketu about which the Indians well know, since they> are little children,actually form the whole circuit of activities in> this Life which we would be strung with, and Rahu Ketu ingrain the> triggers of what has to be in a persons Life,through the various> sufferings, elations and experiences an individual would go through all> his Life. I could write hundreds of pages on Rahu and Ketu, but as> Chiranjiviji said and believes that Bhaskar does not like Esoteric, I> will get to the point

of what I feel must be mentioned at the cost of> repetition of common knowledge but yet uncommon to many seekers. The> Pointers in a Chart for the Chakras - Mooladhara chakra Location - In> base of spine between anus and genitials. The Ruling planet is Mars. (> Without aggression of Mars one cannot procreate. Remember Mangal dosha> in marriage ? ) Swadhisthan chakra Location - Hypo gastric plexus> :genitials. The Ruling planet is Mercury Manipura Chakra Location -> in spinal column exactly at the level of the navel. The Ruling planet is> the Sun. Anahata Chakra Location - In vertebral column behind the> base of the heart. The Ruling planet is Venus. Vishuddhi Chakra> Location - Throat pit. The Ruling planet is Jupiter. Agya/Ajna Chakra> Location - Medulla plexus, point between eyebrows. The Ruling planet is> Saturn. Sahasra Chakra Location - At top of the

cranium,cerebal> plexus. The Ruling Planet is Ketu.( You know now why Ketu is called> Mokshakaraka ?) We can further expand on the above in areas of> descriptions of each chakra, their functions in the body,beej mantras> for each, place, petals, Varna, Cosmic ray, Lok, Words for petals,> Namtatva, tatva beej, Beejvahan, Guna, dev, Dev shakti, Yantra,> Gyanendriya, karmendriya, Dhyanphala, English name etc etc. But where> is the planet Rahu in the above ? We shall answer that later. In the> meanwhile one may check his planets in his chart and find out which are> weak and debilitated and check the corresponding areas in his body> represented by the Chakra of the particular planet .this will give you> an idea of which Chakras need cleansing in your body. You may also> confirm by checking the planets in your chart ( if you know what they> represent ). For instance the

Sun is having Cosmic rays of red colour in> the VIBGYOR. its element or panchamahabhoot is Fire . It causes Tridosha> of pitta. its temperetaure is hot,Life giving. its quality is rajasic> and force is energetic. Then again it rules the Solar or Abdomonal> plexus ( Manipur Chakra) in the body. It is the significator of Saman> vayu in the body. Its saptadhatu is Bone. The plane of disease caused> due to the Red Cosmic colour would be spiritual ( Not easy to treat).> The sensitive organ ruled would be the eyes. The subject of the> sensitive organ would be Form. The taste would be pungent. In case of> disease due to this chakra being afflicted the coulour of cosmic rays to> be given to the patient would be of Orange or Green Cosmic rays. The> wave length would be 800-650 (Milli microns). it rules the Pranamaya> Kosha. There are hundreds of such matters above, to determine,

check> and either eradicate or enforce, otherwise no meaning in searching for> the Chakras in the chart, which is why I am never interested in writing> such matters which take up lots of time, and nobody can make worthwhile> use of the same unless he is really interested in going deep. Now our> unasnwered question - Where is Rahu among the Chakras ? Rahu is> actually the cause of us being here. Which is why I always check the> House and sign where Rahu appears in a chart.. There would the> rinabadhanas of that native lie, to be fulfilled in this janma. The Lord> of the Raashi where Rahu appears signifies cerytain people with whom> your rinabandhanas have to be completed with. The activities in which> the house in the chart which is represneted by Rahu, will be those> activities where your loyalties must be true , in this janma , to clear> the deficit. For instance

Rahu in Leo. The Lord of this sign is The Sun.> The Sun represents father and father figures in the family. Your duties> and loyalties lie in this janma towards them, and it would be no easy> ropewalk to meet these, coz these same people with whom you are expected> to fulfill your duties would create trouble to you and not allow you to> settle the past karmas. Rahu suppose in 7th house, then a persons> loyalties this janmalies with his wife. he has to make her happy at any> cost even if it means being having to be bludgeoned daily by the lady.> Rahu isi the cause of creation for us. Ketu is the target to achieve> and get out Rahu is the gateway to this earth ( The serpents Mouth )> and till we remain on Earth, ie.within the serpent, its Maya all around,> and once having gone through the tail which is ketu, you can enter the> Satyam Loka of the Sahasra Chakra when all the

1000 Petals of the Lotus> would be opened and you would be one with the Whole. This you will not> find written in any book for its my own realisation and there are many> such secrets of astrology which are yet to be told, and will not be> learnt through any software but only through self experience. Check> out Your Rahus - Where are they in the chart. Which people they> represent. Which houses they appear. Which activities they represent in> your Life. You will be shockedat what you find. the truth. Forget> looking for Chakra sin the charts. we are not that adept. look out for> Rahu. pacify it. Till you are not able to pacify you will remain in the> serpents body ( maya ). Once you do it, Then seek for Ketu. regards,> Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

com, neelam gupta> neelamgupta07@ wrote:> >> > *Astrological Exploration of the Mula (ROOT) Point *> >> > Dear Bhaskar ji, Bohra ji, Pradeep ji and group,> >> > With the two ongoing discussions, I am encouraged to share my views on> the> > astrological connection of Mula and Muladhar (as being discussed in> the> > other thread by Bohraji and Pradeep ji) with the R/K and kaal sarp as> being> > discussed in this thread.> >> > Astrologically, this subject of 'mula' or root has a deep import and a> chart> > may unfold some significant details when we observe or read it from> this> > angle. It can throw light on the different manifestations at all> levels of a> > being â€“ physical, mental and spiritual. What is the astrological> > significance of three mula

points of transmutation and the 'one actual> mula'> > in any chart? Are they really to be dreaded? Are planets really weak> when> > posited at these points? If so, why and when?> >> > How can we read kaal-sarp in the 'root' (mula) light. What is the> > significance of ketu's position in a chart. What does this moksh karak> > really do? Does it really give moksh or shows us the path to evolve to> > higher state of being? Why does ketu inflict physical hardships and> mental> > worries? How other planets align themselves with this primary point?> >> > All these answers come from understanding the principle of Mula as in> > tantra. Once understood, the horoscope will reveal many different> aspects of> > the personality. For certain significations, we can directly co-relate> with> > the yogic

body, but for some we have to look for deeper esoteric> meanings.> > e.g a native having serious affliction to jyeshtha/mula sandhi, might> suffer> > injuries/diseases in the area represented by this, but there is also> another> > impact which is at psychic level and another one which pushes him on> the> > spiritual levels.> >> > I think if we catch the Muladhar point in the chart we may see where> we> > stand in PMS plane. Some pointers can be:> >> > Muladhar is the basic, fundamental chakra from where human beings> commence> > their evolution which passes through the 7 main chakras and sahasrara> is> > where our evolution is completed. Why man sits upright at this stage> of> > evolution?> >> > Animals have seven inferior chakras called atala, vitala,

sutala,> talatala,> > rasatala, mahatala and the lowest is patala and nadis are situated in> their> > legs which flow to their confluence point at muladhar chakra just as> the> > nadis in our body flow to ajna chakra. Just as muladhara is the lowest> > chakra in the human body, patala is the lowest in the animal kingdom> and it> > represents total darkness, where nature is not functioning and matter> is> > completely dormant and static. Chakras above sahasrara represent the> higher> > divine conciousness. Sahasrara is the highest in human evolution and> the> > first step in the highest divine evolution. How are the Lokas and the> life> > within these lokas described in the shastras. Don't we see the> behavioural> > pattern and psychology of a person unfolding here?> >> >

Kundalini is the shakti said to control every affair of life. When it> passes> > through the animal stages of evolution, it influences the whole> species with> > avidya or ignorance and the animal kingdom is compelled to follow the> > tamasic phase of eating, sleeping, fearing and mating. From muladhara> onward> > we pass through the rajasic phase and from sahasrara onward we enter> the> > sattvic. Upto muladhar, evolution is automatic. Prakriti controls them> > completely and benevolently, as they don't think and have no power of> > realisation. Can we relate these with actual manifestations in a> native?> >> > Once kundalini or primordial shakti, reaches muladhara, evolution is> no> > longer spontaneous as man finds awareness of time and space, and he> gets an> > ego. He has a higher

consciousness and he has to work towards his> evolution.> > That is why it is said that kundalini is sleeping in muladhara chakra> and> > for further progress beyond this point it has to be pushed. Within> their> > range of chakras, all individuals within the species are at different> levels> > on the scale of evolution due to their progress in previous lives, or> the> > sadhana and sanskars. e.g someone might have kundalini in anahata at> birth,> > and its ascension should start from there. But we can't remember our> > previous lives, so we also forget about the state and level of the our> > kundalini. Can't we try and locate this point of evolution in the> chart?> >> > People born with awakened chakras and kundalini appear to be are> superior> > people in different aspects of life,

depending upon the level of> > achievement. They may be great musicians, artists, scientists,> research> > scholars, inventors, prophets, statesmen, etc. Children born with> higher> > shakti may show different manifestations as they grow up. However, our> > materialistic societies consider these manifestations as abnormal and> those> > who display them are subjected to psychoanalysis and psychological> scrutiny> > and treatment. How do we see this in the horoscope? Is R/K axis a> pointer to> > this development?> >> > The ultimate purpose of this shakti is to ascend through all the> chakras and> > to awaken them and their related parts of the brain. Aren't these> changes> > significantly relevant to with our day to day life. At the mental> level, it> > will relate to our emotional

make up. Our love and hatred, our> relationships> > with people, they are the consequences of the quality of our present> mind.> > Our sufferings, agonies and frustrations are not so much due to the> > circumstances of life, but more to the responses of our mind. The> higher> > qualities of a man, such as love, compassion, charity, mercy, etc. are> the> > expressions of a mind which is influenced by awakened conciousness. Is> > Kaal-sarp yog pointing to these developments in a soul?> >> > In essence, the concept of muladhara is understood as moola prakriti,> the> > transcendental basis of physical nature. The whole universe and all> its> > objects must have some basis from which they evolve and to which they> return> > after dissolution. The original source of all evolution is mula>

prakriti.> > Muladhara, as the basis of mula prakriti, is responsible for> everything that> > manifests in the world of name and form. And that everything should be> > visible in the horoscope if observed from this 'root' angle.> >> > Regards> > Neelam> >>

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January 19, 2009

Dear Chiranjivi ji,

Thanks for the appreciation.

But please give me the birth details, as in 1985 these combinations as

mentioned by you, just cannot be possible at any rate.

It appears to be 1983 but without spending much time I have got June

28th 1983 to the nearest configurations menioned by You. Except that

Mercurry cannot be fitted here in Gemini. Rest all factors match.

Please confirm. On what date to proceed.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, chiranjiv mehta

<vchiranjiv wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji,

> Please accept my standing ovation for such an indepth explanationÂ

in the last 2Â mails.

> I was expecting more add ons by other members; I think they will come

soon.

> In the meanwhile I got to see a horoscope on Sunday which has :

> Asc : Pisces

> 4th house : Rahu, Mangal, Budh & Sun.

> 5th house : Sukra

> 8th house :Â Tula RashiÂ Sani ®

> 9th house : Jupiter ®

> 10th house : KETU, MOOLA NAKSHATRA, (SAG)

> 11th house : Chandra

> Â

> I think born in 1985. Parents ( far relatives ) had sent for

prospective alliance.

> I want to know what effect this Ketu will give her. I personally

talked with her Dad and asked her what she does, just to cross check

with your observations.

> Please do not consider it a free reading. Let me know about the

effects of KETU in Moola Nakshatra.

> Â

> Thanks & Regards

> Â

> Chiranjiv

>

> --- On Sat, 17/1/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

> Re: Kala Sarpa in real force

>

> Saturday, 17 January, 2009, 4:44 PM

>

Re-Joinder

> We were talking about Mula. Its nothing but the root , from where you

come. The ground from where the potato comes,

> from where the Mula ( White vegetable) comesÂ .

> The origin - Mula nakshatra ruled by Ketu.Â

> Â

> But first we shall talk of the Muladhar chakra

> in very short. This chakra represents the Bhu-Loka or

> the physical plane.Â It is symbolised by 4 petals

> known as Vang,Shang,kshang, and Sang.

> for our sake kshang signifies the orhgans of generation

> and sex desire. Sang represents reproducrtion.

> the ruling planet as I said in my earlier mail, is Mars here.

> Which is why I said that without a averagely good Mars one

> cannot have a child or even proper sex.Â The vayu for

> this chakra is apan vayu, the air that expels the semen from

> the male organ, and also which pushes the child from the

> womb during birth.Â Mooladhar is the seat of the Kundalini

> Shakti.

> Â

> From whence you came, thence you will go finally.

> We are the ansha of parmatma, and known as atma .

> Unless we raise ourselves to the level of opening the

> 1000 petals in the Sahasra Chakra we can never reach

> the Satyam LokaÂ or Tejas Loka represented by Ketu.

> Â

> Connection of the Kundalini with Sahasra Chakra.

> Â

> When the Kundalini is raised upto the Sahasra Chakra, the illusion of

> " individual " self is dissolved. The Yogi becomes realized. He

encounters Kamadhenu the wish fulfilling cow within himself ( There is

also a point in the Horoscope chart known as Kamadhenu point, but cannot

talk about itÂ presently ).

> Â

> The Mooladhara thus has the power to raise one to the mokshkaraka Ketu

if one is able to raise the Energy of Mars and channelise it to this

level.

> Â

> The Mula nakshatra represented by Mula is nothing but the

significations of Ketu in this combination of Stars, which are our roots

from where we came, and where we will go, back to Godhead, someday or

the other, some janma or the other. Â

> Â

> regards/bhaskar

> Â

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Neelamji, Chiranjiviji and the others.

> > As usual I could only expect a beautiful post from you, which I feel

> > incompetent enough to supplement another, with the same fineese

which

> > you possess. You are extremely true to the word of what has been

> > written. Rahu and Ketu about which the Indians well know, since they

> > are little children,actually form the whole circuit of activities in

> > this Life which we would be strung with, and Rahu Ketu ingrain the

> > triggers of what has to be in a persons Life,through the various

> > sufferings, elations and experiences an individual would go through

all

> > his Life. I could write hundreds of pages on Rahu and Ketu, but as

> > Chiranjiviji said and believes that Bhaskar does not like Esoteric,

I

> > will get to the point of what I feel must be mentioned at the cost

of

> > repetition of common knowledge but yet uncommon to many seekers. The

> > Pointers in a Chart for the Chakras - Mooladhara chakra Location -

In

> > base of spine between anus and genitials. The Ruling planet is Mars.

(

> > Without aggression of Mars one cannot procreate. Remember Mangal

dosha

> > in marriage ? ) Swadhisthan chakra Location - Hypo gastric plexus

> > :genitials. The Ruling planet is Mercury Manipura Chakra Location -

> > in spinal column exactly at the level of the navel. The Ruling

planet is

> > the Sun. Anahata Chakra Location - In vertebral column behind the

> > base of the heart. The Ruling planet is Venus. Vishuddhi Chakra

> > Location - Throat pit. The Ruling planet is Jupiter. Agya/Ajna

Chakra

> > Location - Medulla plexus, point between eyebrows. The Ruling planet

is

> > Saturn. Sahasra Chakra Location - At top of the cranium,cerebal

> > plexus. The Ruling Planet is Ketu.( You know now why Ketu is called

> > Mokshakaraka ?) We can further expand on the above in areas of

> > descriptions of each chakra, their functions in the body,beej

mantras

> > for each, place, petals, Varna, Cosmic ray, Lok, Words for petals,

> > Namtatva, tatva beej, Beejvahan, Guna, dev, Dev shakti, Yantra,

> > Gyanendriya, karmendriya, Dhyanphala, English name etc etc. But

where

> > is the planet Rahu in the above ? We shall answer that later. In the

> > meanwhile one may check his planets in his chart and find out which

are

> > weak and debilitated and check the corresponding areas in his body

> > represented by the Chakra of the particular planet .this will give

you

> > an idea of which Chakras need cleansing in your body. You may also

> > confirm by checking the planets in your chart ( if you know what

they

> > represent ). For instance the Sun is having Cosmic rays of red

colour in

> > the VIBGYOR. its element or panchamahabhoot is Fire . It causes

Tridosha

> > of pitta. its temperetaure is hot,Life giving. its quality is

rajasic

> > and force is energetic. Then again it rules the Solar or Abdomonal

> > plexus ( Manipur Chakra) in the body. It is the significator of

Saman

> > vayu in the body. Its saptadhatu is Bone. The plane of disease

caused

> > due to the Red Cosmic colour would be spiritual ( Not easy to

treat).

> > The sensitive organ ruled would be the eyes. The subject of the

> > sensitive organ would be Form. The taste would be pungent. In case

of

> > disease due to this chakra being afflicted the coulour of cosmic

rays to

> > be given to the patient would be of Orange or Green Cosmic rays. The

> > wave length would be 800-650 (Milli microns). it rules the Pranamaya

> > Kosha. There are hundreds of such matters above, to determine, check

> > and either eradicate or enforce, otherwise no meaning in searching

for

> > the Chakras in the chart, which is why I am never interested in

writing

> > such matters which take up lots of time, and nobody can make

worthwhile

> > use of the same unless he is really interested in going deep. Now

our

> > unasnwered question - Where is Rahu among the Chakras ? Rahu is

> > actually the cause of us being here. Which is why I always check the

> > House and sign where Rahu appears in a chart. There would the

> > rinabadhanas of that native lie, to be fulfilled in this janma. The

Lord

> > of the Raashi where Rahu appears signifies cerytain people with whom

> > your rinabandhanas have to be completed with. The activities in

which

> > the house in the chart which is represneted by Rahu, will be those

> > activities where your loyalties must be true , in this janma , to

clear

> > the deficit. For instance Rahu in Leo. The Lord of this sign is The

Sun.

> > The Sun represents father and father figures in the family. Your

duties

> > and loyalties lie in this janma towards them, and it would be no

easy

> > ropewalk to meet these, coz these same people with whom you are

expected

> > to fulfill your duties would create trouble to you and not allow you

to

> > settle the past karmas. Rahu suppose in 7th house, then a persons

> > loyalties this janmalies with his wife. he has to make her happy at

any

> > cost even if it means being having to be bludgeoned daily by the

lady.

> > Rahu isi the cause of creation for us. Ketu is the target to achieve

> > and get out Rahu is the gateway to this earth ( The serpents Mouth )

> > and till we remain on Earth, ie.within the serpent, its Maya all

around,

> > and once having gone through the tail which is ketu, you can enter

the

> > Satyam Loka of the Sahasra Chakra when all the 1000 Petals of the

Lotus

> > would be opened and you would be one with the Whole. This you will

not

> > find written in any book for its my own realisation and there are

many

> > such secrets of astrology which are yet to be told, and will not be

> > learnt through any software but only through self experience. Check

> > out Your Rahus - Where are they in the chart. Which people they

> > represent. Which houses they appear. Which activities they represent

in

> > your Life. You will be shockedat what you find. the truth. Forget

> > looking for Chakra sin the charts. we are not that adept. look out

for

> > Rahu. pacify it. Till you are not able to pacify you will remain in

the

> > serpents body ( maya ). Once you do it, Then seek for Ketu. regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta

> > neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> > >

> > > *Astrological Exploration of the Mula (ROOT) Point *

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar ji, Bohra ji, Pradeep ji and group,

> > >

> > > With the two ongoing discussions, I am encouraged to share my

views on

> > the

> > > astrological connection of Mula and Muladhar (as being discussed

in

> > the

> > > other thread by Bohraji and Pradeep ji) with the R/K and kaal sarp

as

> > being

> > > discussed in this thread.

> > >

> > > Astrologically, this subject of 'mula' or root has a deep import

and a

> > chart

> > > may unfold some significant details when we observe or read it

from

> > this

> > > angle. It can throw light on the different manifestations at all

> > levels of a

> > > being â€ " physical, mental and spiritual. What is the

astrological

> > > significance of three mula points of transmutation and the 'one

actual

> > mula'

> > > in any chart? Are they really to be dreaded? Are planets really

weak

> > when

> > > posited at these points? If so, why and when?

> > >

> > > How can we read kaal-sarp in the 'root' (mula) light. What is the

> > > significance of ketu's position in a chart. What does this moksh

karak

> > > really do? Does it really give moksh or shows us the path to

evolve to

> > > higher state of being? Why does ketu inflict physical hardships

and

> > mental

> > > worries? How other planets align themselves with this primary

point?

> > >

> > > All these answers come from understanding the principle of Mula as

in

> > > tantra. Once understood, the horoscope will reveal many different

> > aspects of

> > > the personality. For certain significations, we can directly

co-relate

> > with

> > > the yogic body, but for some we have to look for deeper esoteric

> > meanings.

> > > e.g a native having serious affliction to jyeshtha/mula sandhi,

might

> > suffer

> > > injuries/diseases in the area represented by this, but there is

also

> > another

> > > impact which is at psychic level and another one which pushes him

on

> > the

> > > spiritual levels.

> > >

> > > I think if we catch the Muladhar point in the chart we may see

where

> > we

> > > stand in PMS plane. Some pointers can be:

> > >

> > > Muladhar is the basic, fundamental chakra from where human beings

> > commence

> > > their evolution which passes through the 7 main chakras and

sahasrara

> > is

> > > where our evolution is completed. Why man sits upright at this

stage

> > of

> > > evolution?

> > >

> > > Animals have seven inferior chakras called atala, vitala, sutala,

> > talatala,

> > > rasatala, mahatala and the lowest is patala and nadis are situated

in

> > their

> > > legs which flow to their confluence point at muladhar chakra just

as

> > the

> > > nadis in our body flow to ajna chakra. Just as muladhara is the

lowest

> > > chakra in the human body, patala is the lowest in the animal

kingdom

> > and it

> > > represents total darkness, where nature is not functioning and

matter

> > is

> > > completely dormant and static. Chakras above sahasrara represent

the

> > higher

> > > divine conciousness. Sahasrara is the highest in human evolution

and

> > the

> > > first step in the highest divine evolution. How are the Lokas and

the

> > life

> > > within these lokas described in the shastras. Don't we see the

> > behavioural

> > > pattern and psychology of a person unfolding here?

> > >

> > > Kundalini is the shakti said to control every affair of life. When

it

> > passes

> > > through the animal stages of evolution, it influences the whole

> > species with

> > > avidya or ignorance and the animal kingdom is compelled to follow

the

> > > tamasic phase of eating, sleeping, fearing and mating. From

muladhara

> > onward

> > > we pass through the rajasic phase and from sahasrara onward we

enter

> > the

> > > sattvic. Upto muladhar, evolution is automatic. Prakriti controls

them

> > > completely and benevolently, as they don't think and have no power

of

> > > realisation. Can we relate these with actual manifestations in a

> > native?

> > >

> > > Once kundalini or primordial shakti, reaches muladhara, evolution

is

> > no

> > > longer spontaneous as man finds awareness of time and space, and

he

> > gets an

> > > ego. He has a higher consciousness and he has to work towards his

> > evolution.

> > > That is why it is said that kundalini is sleeping in muladhara

chakra

> > and

> > > for further progress beyond this point it has to be pushed. Within

> > their

> > > range of chakras, all individuals within the species are at

different

> > levels

> > > on the scale of evolution due to their progress in previous lives,

or

> > the

> > > sadhana and sanskars. e.g someone might have kundalini in anahata

at

> > birth,

> > > and its ascension should start from there. But we can't remember

our

> > > previous lives, so we also forget about the state and level of the

our

> > > kundalini. Can't we try and locate this point of evolution in the

> > chart?

> > >

> > > People born with awakened chakras and kundalini appear to be are

> > superior

> > > people in different aspects of life, depending upon the level of

> > > achievement. They may be great musicians, artists, scientists,

> > research

> > > scholars, inventors, prophets, statesmen, etc. Children born with

> > higher

> > > shakti may show different manifestations as they grow up. However,

our

> > > materialistic societies consider these manifestations as abnormal

and

> > those

> > > who display them are subjected to psychoanalysis and psychological

> > scrutiny

> > > and treatment. How do we see this in the horoscope? Is R/K axis a

> > pointer to

> > > this development?

> > >

> > > The ultimate purpose of this shakti is to ascend through all the

> > chakras and

> > > to awaken them and their related parts of the brain. Aren't these

> > changes

> > > significantly relevant to with our day to day life. At the mental

> > level, it

> > > will relate to our emotional make up. Our love and hatred, our

> > relationships

> > > with people, they are the consequences of the quality of our

present

> > mind.

> > > Our sufferings, agonies and frustrations are not so much due to

the

> > > circumstances of life, but more to the responses of our mind. The

> > higher

> > > qualities of a man, such as love, compassion, charity, mercy, etc.

are

> > the

> > > expressions of a mind which is influenced by awakened

conciousness. Is

> > > Kaal-sarp yog pointing to these developments in a soul?

> > >

> > > In essence, the concept of muladhara is understood as moola

prakriti,

> > the

> > > transcendental basis of physical nature. The whole universe and

all

> > its

> > > objects must have some basis from which they evolve and to which

they

> > return

> > > after dissolution. The original source of all evolution is mula

> > prakriti.

> > > Muladhara, as the basis of mula prakriti, is responsible for

> > everything that

> > > manifests in the world of name and form. And that everything

should be

> > > visible in the horoscope if observed from this 'root' angle.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Neelam

> > >

> >

>

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January 20, 2009

Dear Sir,

My mistake.

It is 29th June 1983. Mumbai, India.

Place of Birth: MumbaiTime : 00.20 am

What is the effect of Ketu in Moola Nakshatra in General ? And what would it do for this girl

( so that I can ask for some feedback ). She is normal to look at.

About Budh, I remember it had negligible degree (I think 0). Horoscope did not have Bhava Chalit.

Thanks & Regards

Chiranjiv Mehta

--- On Mon, 19/1/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Kala Sarpa in real force Date: Monday, 19 January, 2009, 10:35 PM

Dear Chiranjivi ji,Thanks for the appreciation.But please give me the birth details, as in 1985 these combinations asmentioned by you, just cannot be possible at any rate.It appears to be 1983 but without spending much time I have got June28th 1983 to the nearest configurations menioned by You. Except thatMercurry cannot be fitted here in Gemini. Rest all factors match.Please confirm. On what date to proceed.regards,Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta<vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji,> Please accept my standing ovation for such an indepth explanationÃ‚in the last 2Ã‚ mails.> I was expecting more add ons by other members; I think they will comesoon.> In the meanwhile I got to see a horoscope

on Sunday which has :> Asc : Pisces> 4th house : Rahu, Mangal, Budh & Sun.> 5th house : Sukra> 8th house :Ã‚ Tula RashiÃ‚ Sani ®> 9th house : Jupiter ®> 10th house : KETU, MOOLA NAKSHATRA, (SAG)> 11th house : Chandra> Ã‚> I think born in 1985. Parents ( far relatives ) had sent forprospective alliance.> I want to know what effect this Ketu will give her.. I personallytalked with her Dad and asked her what she does, just to cross checkwith your observations.> Please do not consider it a free reading. Let me know about theeffects of KETU in Moola Nakshatra.> Ã‚> Thanks & Regards> Ã‚> Chiranjiv>> --- On Sat, 17/1/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:>> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Kala Sarpa in real force> ancient_indian_ astrology> Saturday, 17 January, 2009, 4:44 PM>>>>>>>> Re-Joinder> We were talking about Mula. Its nothing but the root , from where youcome. The ground from where the potato comes,> from where the Mula ( White vegetable) comesÃ‚ ..> The origin - Mula nakshatra ruled by Ketu.Ã‚> Ã‚> But first we shall talk of the Muladhar chakra> in very short.. This chakra represents the Bhu-Loka or> the physical plane.Ã‚ It is symbolised by 4 petals> known as Vang,Shang,kshang, and Sang.> for our sake kshang signifies the orhgans of generation> and sex desire. Sang represents reproducrtion.> the ruling planet as I said in my earlier mail, is Mars here.> Which is why I said that without a

averagely good Mars one> cannot have a child or even proper sex.Ã‚ The vayu for> this chakra is apan vayu, the air that expels the semen from> the male organ, and also which pushes the child from the> womb during birth.Ã‚ Mooladhar is the seat of the Kundalini> Shakti.> Ã‚> From whence you came, thence you will go finally.> We are the ansha of parmatma, and known as atma .> Unless we raise ourselves to the level of opening the> 1000 petals in the Sahasra Chakra we can never reach> the Satyam LokaÃ‚ or Tejas Loka represented by Ketu.> Ã‚> Connection of the Kundalini with Sahasra Chakra.> Ã‚> When the Kundalini is raised upto the Sahasra Chakra, the illusion of> "individual" self is dissolved. The Yogi becomes realized. Heencounters Kamadhenu the wish fulfilling cow within himself ( There isalso a point in the Horoscope chart known as

Kamadhenu point, but cannottalk about itÃ‚ presently ).> Ã‚> The Mooladhara thus has the power to raise one to the mokshkaraka Ketuif one is able to raise the Energy of Mars and channelise it to thislevel.> Ã‚> The Mula nakshatra represented by Mula is nothing but thesignifications of Ketu in this combination of Stars, which are our rootsfrom where we came, and where we will go, back to Godhead, someday orthe other, some janma or the other. Ã‚> Ã‚> regards/bhaskar> Ã‚> Ã‚>> ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"<bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> >> >> > Dear Neelamji, Chiranjiviji and the others.> > As usual I could only expect a beautiful post from you, which I feel> > incompetent enough to supplement another, with the same fineesewhich> > you possess. You are

extremely true to the word of what has been> > written. Rahu and Ketu about which the Indians well know, since they> > are little children,actually form the whole circuit of activities in> > this Life which we would be strung with, and Rahu Ketu ingrain the> > triggers of what has to be in a persons Life,through the various> > sufferings, elations and experiences an individual would go throughall> > his Life. I could write hundreds of pages on Rahu and Ketu, but as> > Chiranjiviji said and believes that Bhaskar does not like Esoteric,I> > will get to the point of what I feel must be mentioned at the costof> > repetition of common knowledge but yet uncommon to many seekers. The> > Pointers in a Chart for the Chakras - Mooladhara chakra Location -In> > base of spine between anus and genitials. The Ruling planet is

Mars.(> > Without aggression of Mars one cannot procreate. Remember Mangaldosha> > in marriage ? ) Swadhisthan chakra Location - Hypo gastric plexus> > :genitials. The Ruling planet is Mercury Manipura Chakra Location -> > in spinal column exactly at the level of the navel. The Rulingplanet is> > the Sun. Anahata Chakra Location - In vertebral column behind the> > base of the heart. The Ruling planet is Venus. Vishuddhi Chakra> > Location - Throat pit. The Ruling planet is Jupiter. Agya/AjnaChakra> > Location - Medulla plexus, point between eyebrows. The Ruling planetis> > Saturn. Sahasra Chakra Location - At top of the cranium,cerebal> > plexus. The Ruling Planet is Ketu.( You know now why Ketu is called> > Mokshakaraka ?) We can further expand on the above in areas of> > descriptions of each chakra, their

functions in the body,beejmantras> > for each, place, petals, Varna, Cosmic ray, Lok, Words for petals,> > Namtatva, tatva beej, Beejvahan, Guna, dev, Dev shakti, Yantra,> > Gyanendriya, karmendriya, Dhyanphala, English name etc etc. Butwhere> > is the planet Rahu in the above ? We shall answer that later. In the> > meanwhile one may check his planets in his chart and find out whichare> > weak and debilitated and check the corresponding areas in his body> > represented by the Chakra of the particular planet .this will giveyou> > an idea of which Chakras need cleansing in your body. You may also> > confirm by checking the planets in your chart ( if you know whatthey> > represent ). For instance the Sun is having Cosmic rays of redcolour in> > the VIBGYOR. its element or panchamahabhoot is Fire . It

causesTridosha> > of pitta. its temperetaure is hot,Life giving. its quality israjasic> > and force is energetic. Then again it rules the Solar or Abdomonal> > plexus ( Manipur Chakra) in the body. It is the significator ofSaman> > vayu in the body. Its saptadhatu is Bone. The plane of diseasecaused> > due to the Red Cosmic colour would be spiritual ( Not easy totreat).> > The sensitive organ ruled would be the eyes. The subject of the> > sensitive organ would be Form. The taste would be pungent. In caseof> > disease due to this chakra being afflicted the coulour of cosmicrays to> > be given to the patient would be of Orange or Green Cosmic rays. The> > wave length would be 800-650 (Milli microns). it rules the Pranamaya> > Kosha. There are hundreds of such matters above, to determine, check> > and either

eradicate or enforce, otherwise no meaning in searchingfor> > the Chakras in the chart, which is why I am never interested inwriting> > such matters which take up lots of time, and nobody can makeworthwhile> > use of the same unless he is really interested in going deep. Nowour> > unasnwered question - Where is Rahu among the Chakras ? Rahu is> > actually the cause of us being here. Which is why I always check the> > House and sign where Rahu appears in a chart. There would the> > rinabadhanas of that native lie, to be fulfilled in this janma. TheLord> > of the Raashi where Rahu appears signifies cerytain people with whom> > your rinabandhanas have to be completed with. The activities inwhich> > the house in the chart which is represneted by Rahu, will be those> > activities where your loyalties must be true , in this

janma , toclear> > the deficit. For instance Rahu in Leo. The Lord of this sign is TheSun.> > The Sun represents father and father figures in the family. Yourduties> > and loyalties lie in this janma towards them, and it would be noeasy> > ropewalk to meet these, coz these same people with whom you areexpected> > to fulfill your duties would create trouble to you and not allow youto> > settle the past karmas. Rahu suppose in 7th house, then a persons> > loyalties this janmalies with his wife. he has to make her happy atany> > cost even if it means being having to be bludgeoned daily by thelady.> > Rahu isi the cause of creation for us. Ketu is the target to achieve> > and get out Rahu is the gateway to this earth ( The serpents Mouth )> > and till we remain on Earth, ie.within the serpent, its Maya

allaround,> > and once having gone through the tail which is ketu, you can enterthe> > Satyam Loka of the Sahasra Chakra when all the 1000 Petals of theLotus> > would be opened and you would be one with the Whole. This you willnot> > find written in any book for its my own realisation and there aremany> > such secrets of astrology which are yet to be told, and will not be> > learnt through any software but only through self experience. Check> > out Your Rahus - Where are they in the chart. Which people they> > represent. Which houses they appear. Which activities they representin> > your Life. You will be shockedat what you find. the truth. Forget> > looking for Chakra sin the charts. we are not that adept. look outfor> > Rahu. pacify it. Till you are not able to pacify you will remain inthe> > serpents

body ( maya ). Once you do it, Then seek for Ketu. regards,> > Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta> > neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > >> > > *Astrological Exploration of the Mula (ROOT) Point *> > >> > > Dear Bhaskar ji, Bohra ji, Pradeep ji and group,> > >> > > With the two ongoing discussions, I am encouraged to share myviews on> > the> > > astrological connection of Mula and Muladhar (as being discussedin> > the> > > other thread by Bohraji and Pradeep ji) with the R/K and kaal sarpas> > being> > > discussed in this thread.> > >> > > Astrologically, this subject of

'mula' or root has a deep importand a> > chart> > > may unfold some significant details when we observe or read itfrom> > this> > > angle. It can throw light on the different manifestations at all> > levels of a> > > being Ã¢â‚¬" physical, mental and spiritual. What is theastrological> > > significance of three mula points of transmutation and the 'oneactual> > mula'> > > in any chart? Are they really to be dreaded? Are planets reallyweak> > when> > > posited at these points? If so, why and when?> > >> > > How can we read kaal-sarp in the 'root' (mula) light. What is the> > > significance of ketu's position in a chart. What does this mokshkarak> > > really do? Does it really give moksh or shows us the path toevolve to> > > higher state

of being? Why does ketu inflict physical hardshipsand> > mental> > > worries? How other planets align themselves with this primarypoint?> > >> > > All these answers come from understanding the principle of Mula asin> > > tantra. Once understood, the horoscope will reveal many different> > aspects of> > > the personality. For certain significations, we can directlyco-relate> > with> > > the yogic body, but for some we have to look for deeper esoteric> > meanings..> > > e.g a native having serious affliction to jyeshtha/mula sandhi,might> > suffer> > > injuries/diseases in the area represented by this, but there isalso> > another> > > impact which is at psychic level and another one which pushes himon> > the> > > spiritual

levels.> > >> > > I think if we catch the Muladhar point in the chart we may seewhere> > we> > > stand in PMS plane. Some pointers can be:> > >> > > Muladhar is the basic, fundamental chakra from where human beings> > commence> > > their evolution which passes through the 7 main chakras andsahasrara> > is> > > where our evolution is completed. Why man sits upright at thisstage> > of> > > evolution?> > >> > > Animals have seven inferior chakras called atala, vitala, sutala,> > talatala,> > > rasatala, mahatala and the lowest is patala and nadis are situatedin> > their> > > legs which flow to their confluence point at muladhar chakra justas> > the> > > nadis in our body flow to ajna chakra. Just as

muladhara is thelowest> > > chakra in the human body, patala is the lowest in the animalkingdom> > and it> > > represents total darkness, where nature is not functioning andmatter> > is> > > completely dormant and static. Chakras above sahasrara representthe> > higher> > > divine conciousness. Sahasrara is the highest in human evolutionand> > the> > > first step in the highest divine evolution. How are the Lokas andthe> > life> > > within these lokas described in the shastras. Don't we see the> > behavioural> > > pattern and psychology of a person unfolding here?> > >> > > Kundalini is the shakti said to control every affair of life. Whenit> > passes> > > through the animal stages of evolution, it influences the whole>

> species with> > > avidya or ignorance and the animal kingdom is compelled to followthe> > > tamasic phase of eating, sleeping, fearing and mating. Frommuladhara> > onward> > > we pass through the rajasic phase and from sahasrara onward weenter> > the> > > sattvic. Upto muladhar, evolution is automatic. Prakriti controlsthem> > > completely and benevolently, as they don't think and have no powerof> > > realisation. Can we relate these with actual manifestations in a> > native?> > >> > > Once kundalini or primordial shakti, reaches muladhara, evolutionis> > no> > > longer spontaneous as man finds awareness of time and space, andhe> > gets an> > > ego. He has a higher consciousness and he has to work towards his> > evolution.>

> > That is why it is said that kundalini is sleeping in muladharachakra> > and> > > for further progress beyond this point it has to be pushed. Within> > their> > > range of chakras, all individuals within the species are atdifferent> > levels> > > on the scale of evolution due to their progress in previous lives,or> > the> > > sadhana and sanskars. e.g someone might have kundalini in anahataat> > birth,> > > and its ascension should start from there. But we can't rememberour> > > previous lives, so we also forget about the state and level of theour> > > kundalini. Can't we try and locate this point of evolution in the> > chart?> > >> > > People born with awakened chakras and kundalini appear to be are> > superior> > > people

in different aspects of life, depending upon the level of> > > achievement. They may be great musicians, artists, scientists,> > research> > > scholars, inventors, prophets, statesmen, etc.. Children born with> > higher> > > shakti may show different manifestations as they grow up. However,our> > > materialistic societies consider these manifestations as abnormaland> > those> > > who display them are subjected to psychoanalysis and psychological> > scrutiny> > > and treatment. How do we see this in the horoscope? Is R/K axis a> > pointer to> > > this development?> > >> > > The ultimate purpose of this shakti is to ascend through all the> > chakras and> > > to awaken them and their related parts of the brain. Aren't these> > changes> > >

significantly relevant to with our day to day life. At the mental> > level, it> > > will relate to our emotional make up. Our love and hatred, our> > relationships> > > with people, they are the consequences of the quality of ourpresent> > mind.> > > Our sufferings, agonies and frustrations are not so much due tothe> > > circumstances of life, but more to the responses of our mind. The> > higher> > > qualities of a man, such as love, compassion, charity, mercy, etc.are> > the> > > expressions of a mind which is influenced by awakenedconciousness. Is> > > Kaal-sarp yog pointing to these developments in a soul?> > >> > > In essence, the concept of muladhara is understood as moolaprakriti,> > the> > > transcendental basis of physical nature. The

whole universe andall> > its> > > objects must have some basis from which they evolve and to whichthey> > return> > > after dissolution. The original source of all evolution is mula> > prakriti.> > > Muladhara, as the basis of mula prakriti, is responsible for> > everything that> > > manifests in the world of name and form. And that everythingshould be> > > visible in the horoscope if observed from this 'root' angle.> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, withoutdownload. Go to http://in.webmessen ger..

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January 20, 2009

Dear Chiranjivi,

Moola nakshatra is owned by Ketu itself, so

here you have a planet in its own nakshatra.

The natural characteristsics of Moola and

Ketu are already discussed in hundreds of

books, and I need not repeat these

to a knowledgable person like you.

What will ketu give this girl ?

There are 9 Planets in a chart which indicate

everything what a man does in his life,

during his sojourn on the earth.

In this particular chart, ketu will activate

at least 6 planets in her chart . Notice

there are 5 planets aspecting Ketu. Their

effects will come in Life when Ketu dasha

arrives. Then you have also to take into

influence the effect of Jupiter who is the

Raashi lord of Ketu. The effects of Jupiter

whatever it shows in her chart, too will be

experienced by the native when Ketu arrives.

If You include Ketu also, then totally 7

Planets will be included. So there would be

a total make over or a Great shift and

turnover in her Life, changes of great magnitude

influencing almost all departments of her Life,

during Ketu dasha.

Rahu Chandra and Rahu Mars will both be very

good periods for her.

Rahu Mars in fact would be very beneficial for

her, contrary to what we know about Rahu Mars in

the general results .

There is a strongchance of Love marriage to this

girl, or Love cum arranged marriage.

This chart is a very fortunate one, in terms of

materialstic fulfillments.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, chiranjiv mehta

<vchiranjiv wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

> My mistake.

> It is 29th June 1983. Mumbai, India.

> Place of Birth:Â Mumbai

> Time : 00.20 am

> Â

> What is the effect of Ketu in Moola Nakshatra in General ? And what

would it do for this girl

> ( so that I can ask for some feedback ). She is normal to look at.

> About Budh, I remember itÂ had negligible degree (I think 0).

Horoscope did not have Bhava Chalit.

> Â

> Thanks & Regards

> Â

> Chiranjiv MehtaÂ

>

> --- On Mon, 19/1/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

> Re: Kala Sarpa in real force

>

> Monday, 19 January, 2009, 10:35 PM

>

Dear Chiranjivi ji,

>

> Thanks for the appreciation.

>

> But please give me the birth details, as in 1985 these combinations as

> mentioned by you, just cannot be possible at any rate.

>

> It appears to be 1983 but without spending much time I have got June

> 28th 1983 to the nearest configurations menioned by You. Except that

> Mercurry cannot be fitted here in Gemini. Rest all factors match.

>

> Please confirm. On what date to proceed.

>

> regards,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta

> <vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskarji,

> > Please accept my standing ovation for such an indepth

explanationÃ‚

> in the last 2Ã‚ mails.

> > I was expecting more add ons by other members; I think they will

come

> soon.

> > In the meanwhile I got to see a horoscope on Sunday which has :

> > Asc : Pisces

> > 4th house : Rahu, Mangal, Budh & Sun.

> > 5th house : Sukra

> > 8th house :Ã‚ Tula RashiÃ‚ Sani ®

> > 9th house : Jupiter ®

> > 10th house : KETU, MOOLA NAKSHATRA, (SAG)

> > 11th house : Chandra

> > Ã‚

> > I think born in 1985. Parents ( far relatives ) had sent for

> prospective alliance.

> > I want to know what effect this Ketu will give her. I personally

> talked with her Dad and asked her what she does, just to cross check

> with your observations.

> > Please do not consider it a free reading. Let me know about the

> effects of KETU in Moola Nakshatra.

> > Ã‚

> > Thanks & Regards

> > Ã‚

> > Chiranjiv

> >

> > --- On Sat, 17/1/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Kala Sarpa in real force

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Saturday, 17 January, 2009, 4:44 PM

>

> > Re-Joinder

> > We were talking about Mula. Its nothing but the root , from where

you

> come. The ground from where the potato comes,

> > from where the Mula ( White vegetable) comesÃ‚ .

> > The origin - Mula nakshatra ruled by Ketu.Ã‚

> > Ã‚

> > But first we shall talk of the Muladhar chakra

> > in very short. This chakra represents the Bhu-Loka or

> > the physical plane.Ã‚ It is symbolised by 4 petals

> > known as Vang,Shang,kshang, and Sang.

> > for our sake kshang signifies the orhgans of generation

> > and sex desire. Sang represents reproducrtion.

> > the ruling planet as I said in my earlier mail, is Mars here.

> > Which is why I said that without a averagely good Mars one

> > cannot have a child or even proper sex.Ã‚ The vayu for

> > this chakra is apan vayu, the air that expels the semen from

> > the male organ, and also which pushes the child from the

> > womb during birth.Ã‚ Mooladhar is the seat of the Kundalini

> > Shakti.

> > Ã‚

> > From whence you came, thence you will go finally.

> > We are the ansha of parmatma, and known as atma .

> > Unless we raise ourselves to the level of opening the

> > 1000 petals in the Sahasra Chakra we can never reach

> > the Satyam LokaÃ‚ or Tejas Loka represented by Ketu.

> > Ã‚

> > Connection of the Kundalini with Sahasra Chakra.

> > Ã‚

> > When the Kundalini is raised upto the Sahasra Chakra, the illusion

of

> > " individual " self is dissolved. The Yogi becomes realized. He

> encounters Kamadhenu the wish fulfilling cow within himself ( There is

> also a point in the Horoscope chart known as Kamadhenu point, but

cannot

> talk about itÃ‚ presently ).

> > Ã‚

> > The Mooladhara thus has the power to raise one to the mokshkaraka

Ketu

> if one is able to raise the Energy of Mars and channelise it to this

> level.

> > Ã‚

> > The Mula nakshatra represented by Mula is nothing but the

> significations of Ketu in this combination of Stars, which are our

roots

> from where we came, and where we will go, back to Godhead, someday or

> the other, some janma or the other. Ã‚

> > Ã‚

> > regards/bhaskar

> > Ã‚

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Neelamji, Chiranjiviji and the others.

> > > As usual I could only expect a beautiful post from you, which I

feel

> > > incompetent enough to supplement another, with the same fineese

> which

> > > you possess. You are extremely true to the word of what has been

> > > written. Rahu and Ketu about which the Indians well know, since

they

> > > are little children,actually form the whole circuit of activities

in

> > > this Life which we would be strung with, and Rahu Ketu ingrain the

> > > triggers of what has to be in a persons Life,through the various

> > > sufferings, elations and experiences an individual would go

through

> all

> > > his Life. I could write hundreds of pages on Rahu and Ketu, but as

> > > Chiranjiviji said and believes that Bhaskar does not like

Esoteric,

> I

> > > will get to the point of what I feel must be mentioned at the cost

> of

> > > repetition of common knowledge but yet uncommon to many seekers.

The

> > > Pointers in a Chart for the Chakras - Mooladhara chakra Location -

> In

> > > base of spine between anus and genitials. The Ruling planet is

Mars.

> (

> > > Without aggression of Mars one cannot procreate. Remember Mangal

> dosha

> > > in marriage ? ) Swadhisthan chakra Location - Hypo gastric plexus

> > > :genitials. The Ruling planet is Mercury Manipura Chakra Location

-

> > > in spinal column exactly at the level of the navel. The Ruling

> planet is

> > > the Sun. Anahata Chakra Location - In vertebral column behind the

> > > base of the heart. The Ruling planet is Venus. Vishuddhi Chakra

> > > Location - Throat pit. The Ruling planet is Jupiter. Agya/Ajna

> Chakra

> > > Location - Medulla plexus, point between eyebrows. The Ruling

planet

> is

> > > Saturn. Sahasra Chakra Location - At top of the cranium,cerebal

> > > plexus. The Ruling Planet is Ketu.( You know now why Ketu is

called

> > > Mokshakaraka ?) We can further expand on the above in areas of

> > > descriptions of each chakra, their functions in the body,beej

> mantras

> > > for each, place, petals, Varna, Cosmic ray, Lok, Words for petals,

> > > Namtatva, tatva beej, Beejvahan, Guna, dev, Dev shakti, Yantra,

> > > Gyanendriya, karmendriya, Dhyanphala, English name etc etc. But

> where

> > > is the planet Rahu in the above ? We shall answer that later. In

the

> > > meanwhile one may check his planets in his chart and find out

which

> are

> > > weak and debilitated and check the corresponding areas in his body

> > > represented by the Chakra of the particular planet .this will give

> you

> > > an idea of which Chakras need cleansing in your body. You may also

> > > confirm by checking the planets in your chart ( if you know what

> they

> > > represent ). For instance the Sun is having Cosmic rays of red

> colour in

> > > the VIBGYOR. its element or panchamahabhoot is Fire . It causes

> Tridosha

> > > of pitta. its temperetaure is hot,Life giving. its quality is

> rajasic

> > > and force is energetic. Then again it rules the Solar or Abdomonal

> > > plexus ( Manipur Chakra) in the body. It is the significator of

> Saman

> > > vayu in the body. Its saptadhatu is Bone. The plane of disease

> caused

> > > due to the Red Cosmic colour would be spiritual ( Not easy to

> treat).

> > > The sensitive organ ruled would be the eyes. The subject of the

> > > sensitive organ would be Form. The taste would be pungent. In case

> of

> > > disease due to this chakra being afflicted the coulour of cosmic

> rays to

> > > be given to the patient would be of Orange or Green Cosmic rays.

The

> > > wave length would be 800-650 (Milli microns). it rules the

Pranamaya

> > > Kosha. There are hundreds of such matters above, to determine,

check

> > > and either eradicate or enforce, otherwise no meaning in searching

> for

> > > the Chakras in the chart, which is why I am never interested in

> writing

> > > such matters which take up lots of time, and nobody can make

> worthwhile

> > > use of the same unless he is really interested in going deep. Now

> our

> > > unasnwered question - Where is Rahu among the Chakras ? Rahu is

> > > actually the cause of us being here. Which is why I always check

the

> > > House and sign where Rahu appears in a chart. There would the

> > > rinabadhanas of that native lie, to be fulfilled in this janma.

The

> Lord

> > > of the Raashi where Rahu appears signifies cerytain people with

whom

> > > your rinabandhanas have to be completed with. The activities in

> which

> > > the house in the chart which is represneted by Rahu, will be those

> > > activities where your loyalties must be true , in this janma , to

> clear

> > > the deficit. For instance Rahu in Leo. The Lord of this sign is

The

> Sun.

> > > The Sun represents father and father figures in the family. Your

> duties

> > > and loyalties lie in this janma towards them, and it would be no

> easy

> > > ropewalk to meet these, coz these same people with whom you are

> expected

> > > to fulfill your duties would create trouble to you and not allow

you

> to

> > > settle the past karmas. Rahu suppose in 7th house, then a persons

> > > loyalties this janmalies with his wife. he has to make her happy

at

> any

> > > cost even if it means being having to be bludgeoned daily by the

> lady.

> > > Rahu isi the cause of creation for us. Ketu is the target to

achieve

> > > and get out Rahu is the gateway to this earth ( The serpents Mouth

)

> > > and till we remain on Earth, ie.within the serpent, its Maya all

> around,

> > > and once having gone through the tail which is ketu, you can enter

> the

> > > Satyam Loka of the Sahasra Chakra when all the 1000 Petals of the

> Lotus

> > > would be opened and you would be one with the Whole. This you will

> not

> > > find written in any book for its my own realisation and there are

> many

> > > such secrets of astrology which are yet to be told, and will not

be

> > > learnt through any software but only through self experience.

Check

> > > out Your Rahus - Where are they in the chart. Which people they

> > > represent. Which houses they appear. Which activities they

represent

> in

> > > your Life. You will be shockedat what you find. the truth. Forget

> > > looking for Chakra sin the charts. we are not that adept. look out

> for

> > > Rahu. pacify it. Till you are not able to pacify you will remain

in

> the

> > > serpents body ( maya ). Once you do it, Then seek for Ketu.

regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta

> > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > *Astrological Exploration of the Mula (ROOT) Point *

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, Bohra ji, Pradeep ji and group,

> > > >

> > > > With the two ongoing discussions, I am encouraged to share my

> views on

> > > the

> > > > astrological connection of Mula and Muladhar (as being discussed

> in

> > > the

> > > > other thread by Bohraji and Pradeep ji) with the R/K and kaal

sarp

> as

> > > being

> > > > discussed in this thread.

> > > >

> > > > Astrologically, this subject of 'mula' or root has a deep import

> and a

> > > chart

> > > > may unfold some significant details when we observe or read it

> from

> > > this

> > > > angle. It can throw light on the different manifestations at all

> > > levels of a

> > > > being Ã¢â‚¬ " physical, mental and spiritual. What is the

> astrological

> > > > significance of three mula points of transmutation and the 'one

> actual

> > > mula'

> > > > in any chart? Are they really to be dreaded? Are planets really

> weak

> > > when

> > > > posited at these points? If so, why and when?

> > > >

> > > > How can we read kaal-sarp in the 'root' (mula) light. What is

the

> > > > significance of ketu's position in a chart. What does this moksh

> karak

> > > > really do? Does it really give moksh or shows us the path to

> evolve to

> > > > higher state of being? Why does ketu inflict physical hardships

> and

> > > mental

> > > > worries? How other planets align themselves with this primary

> point?

> > > >

> > > > All these answers come from understanding the principle of Mula

as

> in

> > > > tantra. Once understood, the horoscope will reveal many

different

> > > aspects of

> > > > the personality. For certain significations, we can directly

> co-relate

> > > with

> > > > the yogic body, but for some we have to look for deeper esoteric

> > > meanings.

> > > > e.g a native having serious affliction to jyeshtha/mula sandhi,

> might

> > > suffer

> > > > injuries/diseases in the area represented by this, but there is

> also

> > > another

> > > > impact which is at psychic level and another one which pushes

him

> on

> > > the

> > > > spiritual levels.

> > > >

> > > > I think if we catch the Muladhar point in the chart we may see

> where

> > > we

> > > > stand in PMS plane. Some pointers can be:

> > > >

> > > > Muladhar is the basic, fundamental chakra from where human

beings

> > > commence

> > > > their evolution which passes through the 7 main chakras and

> sahasrara

> > > is

> > > > where our evolution is completed. Why man sits upright at this

> stage

> > > of

> > > > evolution?

> > > >

> > > > Animals have seven inferior chakras called atala, vitala,

sutala,

> > > talatala,

> > > > rasatala, mahatala and the lowest is patala and nadis are

situated

> in

> > > their

> > > > legs which flow to their confluence point at muladhar chakra

just

> as

> > > the

> > > > nadis in our body flow to ajna chakra. Just as muladhara is the

> lowest

> > > > chakra in the human body, patala is the lowest in the animal

> kingdom

> > > and it

> > > > represents total darkness, where nature is not functioning and

> matter

> > > is

> > > > completely dormant and static. Chakras above sahasrara represent

> the

> > > higher

> > > > divine conciousness. Sahasrara is the highest in human evolution

> and

> > > the

> > > > first step in the highest divine evolution. How are the Lokas

and

> the

> > > life

> > > > within these lokas described in the shastras. Don't we see the

> > > behavioural

> > > > pattern and psychology of a person unfolding here?

> > > >

> > > > Kundalini is the shakti said to control every affair of life.

When

> it

> > > passes

> > > > through the animal stages of evolution, it influences the whole

> > > species with

> > > > avidya or ignorance and the animal kingdom is compelled to

follow

> the

> > > > tamasic phase of eating, sleeping, fearing and mating. From

> muladhara

> > > onward

> > > > we pass through the rajasic phase and from sahasrara onward we

> enter

> > > the

> > > > sattvic. Upto muladhar, evolution is automatic. Prakriti

controls

> them

> > > > completely and benevolently, as they don't think and have no

power

> of

> > > > realisation. Can we relate these with actual manifestations in a

> > > native?

> > > >

> > > > Once kundalini or primordial shakti, reaches muladhara,

evolution

> is

> > > no

> > > > longer spontaneous as man finds awareness of time and space, and

> he

> > > gets an

> > > > ego. He has a higher consciousness and he has to work towards

his

> > > evolution.

> > > > That is why it is said that kundalini is sleeping in muladhara

> chakra

> > > and

> > > > for further progress beyond this point it has to be pushed.

Within

> > > their

> > > > range of chakras, all individuals within the species are at

> different

> > > levels

> > > > on the scale of evolution due to their progress in previous

lives,

> or

> > > the

> > > > sadhana and sanskars. e.g someone might have kundalini in

anahata

> at

> > > birth,

> > > > and its ascension should start from there. But we can't remember

> our

> > > > previous lives, so we also forget about the state and level of

the

> our

> > > > kundalini. Can't we try and locate this point of evolution in

the

> > > chart?

> > > >

> > > > People born with awakened chakras and kundalini appear to be are

> > > superior

> > > > people in different aspects of life, depending upon the level of

> > > > achievement. They may be great musicians, artists, scientists,

> > > research

> > > > scholars, inventors, prophets, statesmen, etc. Children born

with

> > > higher

> > > > shakti may show different manifestations as they grow up.

However,

> our

> > > > materialistic societies consider these manifestations as

abnormal

> and

> > > those

> > > > who display them are subjected to psychoanalysis and

psychological

> > > scrutiny

> > > > and treatment. How do we see this in the horoscope? Is R/K axis

a

> > > pointer to

> > > > this development?

> > > >

> > > > The ultimate purpose of this shakti is to ascend through all the

> > > chakras and

> > > > to awaken them and their related parts of the brain. Aren't

these

> > > changes

> > > > significantly relevant to with our day to day life. At the

mental

> > > level, it

> > > > will relate to our emotional make up. Our love and hatred, our

> > > relationships

> > > > with people, they are the consequences of the quality of our

> present

> > > mind.

> > > > Our sufferings, agonies and frustrations are not so much due to

> the

> > > > circumstances of life, but more to the responses of our mind.

The

> > > higher

> > > > qualities of a man, such as love, compassion, charity, mercy,

etc.

> are

> > > the

> > > > expressions of a mind which is influenced by awakened

> conciousness. Is

> > > > Kaal-sarp yog pointing to these developments in a soul?

> > > >

> > > > In essence, the concept of muladhara is understood as moola

> prakriti,

> > > the

> > > > transcendental basis of physical nature. The whole universe and

> all

> > > its

> > > > objects must have some basis from which they evolve and to which

> they

> > > return

> > > > after dissolution. The original source of all evolution is mula

> > > prakriti.

> > > > Muladhara, as the basis of mula prakriti, is responsible for

> > > everything that

> > > > manifests in the world of name and form. And that everything

> should be

> > > > visible in the horoscope if observed from this 'root' angle.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Neelam

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Dear Bhaskarji,

Thank You for giving a broad reading about the girl.

However I have a selfish request : Ketu & its effects are much unkown ( at least for novices like me ) " It signifies Loss" is what I have heard many times. I want to know what

Ketu will do when it is in own chart ? and it is supposed to have " Sthanbala". Is it therefore misplaced in Karma house.

Pls explain. Hope this will contribute more to Neelamji's cause of explaining the nodes & their significance in our spiritual life.

Thanks & Regards

Chiranjiv Mehta

--- On Tue, 20/1/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Kala Sarpa in real force Date: Tuesday, 20 January, 2009, 5:23 PM

Dear Chiranjivi,Moola nakshatra is owned by Ketu itself, sohere you have a planet in its own nakshatra.The natural characteristsics of Moola andKetu are already discussed in hundreds ofbooks, and I need not repeat theseto a knowledgable person like you.What will ketu give this girl ?There are 9 Planets in a chart which indicateeverything what a man does in his life,during his sojourn on the earth.In this particular chart, ketu will activateat least 6 planets in her chart . Noticethere are 5 planets aspecting Ketu. Theireffects will come in Life when Ketu dashaarrives. Then you have also to take intoinfluence the effect of Jupiter who is theRaashi lord of Ketu. The effects of Jupiterwhatever it shows in her chart, too will beexperienced by the native when Ketu arrives.If You include Ketu also, then totally 7Planets will be included. So there would

bea total make over or a Great shift andturnover in her Life, changes of great magnitudeinfluencing almost all departments of her Life,during Ketu dasha.Rahu Chandra and Rahu Mars will both be verygood periods for her.Rahu Mars in fact would be very beneficial forher, contrary to what we know about Rahu Mars inthe general results .There is a strongchance of Love marriage to thisgirl, or Love cum arranged marriage.This chart is a very fortunate one, in terms ofmaterialstic fulfillments.regards,Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta<vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sir,> My mistake.> It is 29th June 1983. Mumbai, India.> Place of Birth:Ã‚ Mumbai> Time : 00.20 am> Ã‚> What is the effect of

Ketu in Moola Nakshatra in General ? And whatwould it do for this girl> ( so that I can ask for some feedback ). She is normal to look at.> About Budh, I remember itÃ‚ had negligible degree (I think 0).Horoscope did not have Bhava Chalit.> Ã‚> Thanks & Regards> Ã‚> Chiranjiv MehtaÃ‚>> --- On Mon, 19/1/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:>> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Kala Sarpa in real force> ancient_indian_ astrology> Monday, 19 January, 2009, 10:35 PM>>>>>>>> Dear Chiranjivi ji,>> Thanks for the appreciation.>> But please give me the birth details, as in 1985 these combinations as> mentioned

by you, just cannot be possible at any rate.>> It appears to be 1983 but without spending much time I have got June> 28th 1983 to the nearest configurations menioned by You. Except that> Mercurry cannot be fitted here in Gemini. Rest all factors match.>> Please confirm. On what date to proceed.>> regards,>> Bhaskar.>> ancient_indian_ astrology@ .. com, chiranjiv mehta> <vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskarji,> > Please accept my standing ovation for such an indepthexplanationÃƒâ€š> in the last 2Ãƒâ€š mails.> > I was expecting more add ons by other members; I think they willcome> soon.> > In the meanwhile I got to see a horoscope on Sunday which has :> > Asc : Pisces> > 4th house : Rahu, Mangal, Budh & Sun.> > 5th house :

Sukra> > 8th house :Ãƒâ€š Tula RashiÃƒâ€š Sani ®> > 9th house : Jupiter ®> > 10th house : KETU, MOOLA NAKSHATRA, (SAG)> > 11th house : Chandra> > Ãƒâ€š> > I think born in 1985. Parents ( far relatives ) had sent for> prospective alliance.> > I want to know what effect this Ketu will give her. I personally> talked with her Dad and asked her what she does, just to cross check> with your observations.> > Please do not consider it a free reading. Let me know about the> effects of KETU in Moola Nakshatra.> > Ãƒâ€š> > Thanks & Regards> > Ãƒâ€š> > Chiranjiv> >> > --- On Sat, 17/1/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> >> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Kala Sarpa in real force> > To:

ancient_indian_ astrology> > Saturday, 17 January, 2009, 4:44 PM> > > Re-Joinder> > We were talking about Mula. Its nothing but the root , from whereyou> come. The ground from where the potato comes,> > from where the Mula ( White vegetable) comesÃƒâ€š .> > The origin - Mula nakshatra ruled by Ketu.Ãƒâ€š> > Ãƒâ€š> > But first we shall talk of the Muladhar chakra> > in very short. This chakra represents the Bhu-Loka or> > the physical plane.Ãƒâ€š It is symbolised by 4 petals> > known as Vang,Shang,kshang, and Sang.> > for our sake kshang signifies the orhgans of generation> > and sex desire. Sang represents reproducrtion.> > the ruling planet as I said in my earlier mail, is Mars here.> > Which is why I said that without a averagely good Mars one> > cannot have a

child or even proper sex.Ãƒâ€š The vayu for> > this chakra is apan vayu, the air that expels the semen from> > the male organ, and also which pushes the child from the> > womb during birth.Ãƒâ€š Mooladhar is the seat of the Kundalini> > Shakti.> > Ãƒâ€š> > From whence you came, thence you will go finally.> > We are the ansha of parmatma, and known as atma .> > Unless we raise ourselves to the level of opening the> > 1000 petals in the Sahasra Chakra we can never reach> > the Satyam LokaÃƒâ€š or Tejas Loka represented by Ketu.> > Ãƒâ€š> > Connection of the Kundalini with Sahasra Chakra.> > Ãƒâ€š> > When the Kundalini is raised upto the Sahasra Chakra, the illusionof> > "individual" self is dissolved. The Yogi becomes realized. He> encounters Kamadhenu the wish fulfilling cow within himself (

There is> also a point in the Horoscope chart known as Kamadhenu point, butcannot> talk about itÃƒâ€š presently ).> > Ãƒâ€š> > The Mooladhara thus has the power to raise one to the mokshkarakaKetu> if one is able to raise the Energy of Mars and channelise it to this> level.> > Ãƒâ€š> > The Mula nakshatra represented by Mula is nothing but the> significations of Ketu in this combination of Stars, which are ourroots> from where we came, and where we will go, back to Godhead, someday or> the other, some janma or the other. Ãƒâ€š> > Ãƒâ€š> > regards/bhaskar> > Ãƒâ€š> > Ãƒâ€š> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Neelamji, Chiranjiviji and the others.> > >

As usual I could only expect a beautiful post from you, which Ifeel> > > incompetent enough to supplement another, with the same fineese> which> > > you possess. You are extremely true to the word of what has been> > > written. Rahu and Ketu about which the Indians well know, sincethey> > > are little children,actually form the whole circuit of activitiesin> > > this Life which we would be strung with, and Rahu Ketu ingrain the> > > triggers of what has to be in a persons Life,through the various> > > sufferings, elations and experiences an individual would gothrough> all> > > his Life. I could write hundreds of pages on Rahu and Ketu, but as> > > Chiranjiviji said and believes that Bhaskar does not likeEsoteric,> I> > > will get to the point of what I feel must be mentioned at the

cost> of> > > repetition of common knowledge but yet uncommon to many seekers.The> > > Pointers in a Chart for the Chakras - Mooladhara chakra Location -> In> > > base of spine between anus and genitials. The Ruling planet isMars.> (> > > Without aggression of Mars one cannot procreate. Remember Mangal> dosha> > > in marriage ? ) Swadhisthan chakra Location - Hypo gastric plexus> > > :genitials. The Ruling planet is Mercury Manipura Chakra Location-> > > in spinal column exactly at the level of the navel. The Ruling> planet is> > > the Sun. Anahata Chakra Location - In vertebral column behind the> > > base of the heart. The Ruling planet is Venus. Vishuddhi Chakra> > > Location - Throat pit. The Ruling planet is Jupiter. Agya/Ajna> Chakra> > > Location -

Medulla plexus, point between eyebrows. The Rulingplanet> is> > > Saturn. Sahasra Chakra Location - At top of the cranium,cerebal> > > plexus. The Ruling Planet is Ketu.( You know now why Ketu iscalled> > > Mokshakaraka ?) We can further expand on the above in areas of> > > descriptions of each chakra, their functions in the body,beej> mantras> > > for each, place, petals, Varna, Cosmic ray, Lok, Words for petals,> > > Namtatva, tatva beej, Beejvahan, Guna, dev, Dev shakti, Yantra,> > > Gyanendriya, karmendriya, Dhyanphala, English name etc etc. But> where> > > is the planet Rahu in the above ? We shall answer that later. Inthe> > > meanwhile one may check his planets in his chart and find outwhich> are> > > weak and debilitated and check the corresponding areas in his body>

> > represented by the Chakra of the particular planet .this will give> you> > > an idea of which Chakras need cleansing in your body. You may also> > > confirm by checking the planets in your chart ( if you know what> they> > > represent ).. For instance the Sun is having Cosmic rays of red> colour in> > > the VIBGYOR. its element or panchamahabhoot is Fire . It causes> Tridosha> > > of pitta. its temperetaure is hot,Life giving. its quality is> rajasic> > > and force is energetic. Then again it rules the Solar or Abdomonal> > > plexus ( Manipur Chakra) in the body. It is the significator of> Saman> > > vayu in the body. Its saptadhatu is Bone. The plane of disease> caused> > > due to the Red Cosmic colour would be spiritual ( Not easy to> treat).> > > The

sensitive organ ruled would be the eyes. The subject of the> > > sensitive organ would be Form. The taste would be pungent. In case> of> > > disease due to this chakra being afflicted the coulour of cosmic> rays to> > > be given to the patient would be of Orange or Green Cosmic rays.The> > > wave length would be 800-650 (Milli microns). it rules thePranamaya> > > Kosha. There are hundreds of such matters above, to determine,check> > > and either eradicate or enforce, otherwise no meaning in searching> for> > > the Chakras in the chart, which is why I am never interested in> writing> > > such matters which take up lots of time, and nobody can make> worthwhile> > > use of the same unless he is really interested in going deep. Now> our> > > unasnwered question - Where is Rahu

among the Chakras ? Rahu is> > > actually the cause of us being here. Which is why I always checkthe> > > House and sign where Rahu appears in a chart. There would the> > > rinabadhanas of that native lie, to be fulfilled in this janma.The> Lord> > > of the Raashi where Rahu appears signifies cerytain people withwhom> > > your rinabandhanas have to be completed with. The activities in> which> > > the house in the chart which is represneted by Rahu, will be those> > > activities where your loyalties must be true , in this janma , to> clear> > > the deficit. For instance Rahu in Leo. The Lord of this sign isThe> Sun.> > > The Sun represents father and father figures in the family. Your> duties> > > and loyalties lie in this janma towards them, and it would be no>

easy> > > ropewalk to meet these, coz these same people with whom you are> expected> > > to fulfill your duties would create trouble to you and not allowyou> to> > > settle the past karmas. Rahu suppose in 7th house, then a persons> > > loyalties this janmalies with his wife. he has to make her happyat> any> > > cost even if it means being having to be bludgeoned daily by the> lady.> > > Rahu isi the cause of creation for us. Ketu is the target toachieve> > > and get out Rahu is the gateway to this earth ( The serpents Mouth)> > > and till we remain on Earth, ie.within the serpent, its Maya all> around,> > > and once having gone through the tail which is ketu, you can enter> the> > > Satyam Loka of the Sahasra Chakra when all the 1000 Petals of the>

Lotus> > > would be opened and you would be one with the Whole. This you will> not> > > find written in any book for its my own realisation and there are> many> > > such secrets of astrology which are yet to be told, and will notbe> > > learnt through any software but only through self experience.Check> > > out Your Rahus - Where are they in the chart. Which people they> > > represent. Which houses they appear. Which activities theyrepresent> in> > > your Life. You will be shockedat what you find. the truth. Forget> > > looking for Chakra sin the charts. we are not that adept. look out> for> > > Rahu. pacify it. Till you are not able to pacify you will remainin> the> > > serpents body ( maya ). Once you do it, Then seek for Ketu.regards,> > > Bhaskar.>

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta> > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > >> > > > *Astrological Exploration of the Mula (ROOT) Point *> > > >> > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, Bohra ji, Pradeep ji and group,> > > >> > > > With the two ongoing discussions, I am encouraged to share my> views on> > > the> > > > astrological connection of Mula and Muladhar (as being discussed> in> > > the> > > > other thread by Bohraji and Pradeep ji) with the R/K and kaalsarp> as> > > being> > > > discussed in this thread.> > > >> > > > Astrologically, this subject of 'mula' or root has a deep import> and a> > > chart> > > > may unfold some significant

details when we observe or read it> from> > > this> > > > angle. It can throw light on the different manifestations at all> > > levels of a> > > > being ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬" physical, mental and spiritual. What is the> astrological> > > > significance of three mula points of transmutation and the 'one> actual> > > mula'> > > > in any chart? Are they really to be dreaded? Are planets really> weak> > > when> > > > posited at these points? If so, why and when?> > > >> > > > How can we read kaal-sarp in the 'root' (mula) light. What isthe> > > > significance of ketu's position in a chart. What does this moksh> karak> > > > really do? Does it really give moksh or shows us the path to> evolve to> > > > higher

state of being? Why does ketu inflict physical hardships> and> > > mental> > > > worries? How other planets align themselves with this primary> point?> > > >> > > > All these answers come from understanding the principle of Mulaas> in> > > > tantra. Once understood, the horoscope will reveal manydifferent> > > aspects of> > > > the personality. For certain significations, we can directly> co-relate> > > with> > > > the yogic body, but for some we have to look for deeper esoteric> > > meanings.> > > > e.g a native having serious affliction to jyeshtha/mula sandhi,> might> > > suffer> > > > injuries/diseases in the area represented by this, but there is> also> > > another> > > > impact

which is at psychic level and another one which pusheshim> on> > > the> > > > spiritual levels.> > > >> > > > I think if we catch the Muladhar point in the chart we may see> where> > > we> > > > stand in PMS plane. Some pointers can be:> > > >> > > > Muladhar is the basic, fundamental chakra from where humanbeings> > > commence> > > > their evolution which passes through the 7 main chakras and> sahasrara> > > is> > > > where our evolution is completed. Why man sits upright at this> stage> > > of> > > > evolution?> > > >> > > > Animals have seven inferior chakras called atala, vitala,sutala,> > > talatala,> > > > rasatala, mahatala and the lowest is

patala and nadis aresituated> in> > > their> > > > legs which flow to their confluence point at muladhar chakrajust> as> > > the> > > > nadis in our body flow to ajna chakra. Just as muladhara is the> lowest> > > > chakra in the human body, patala is the lowest in the animal> kingdom> > > and it> > > > represents total darkness, where nature is not functioning and> matter> > > is> > > > completely dormant and static. Chakras above sahasrara represent> the> > > higher> > > > divine conciousness. Sahasrara is the highest in human evolution> and> > > the> > > > first step in the highest divine evolution. How are the Lokasand> the> > > life> > > > within these lokas described

in the shastras. Don't we see the> > > behavioural> > > > pattern and psychology of a person unfolding here?> > > >> > > > Kundalini is the shakti said to control every affair of life.When> it> > > passes> > > > through the animal stages of evolution, it influences the whole> > > species with> > > > avidya or ignorance and the animal kingdom is compelled tofollow> the> > > > tamasic phase of eating, sleeping, fearing and mating. From> muladhara> > > onward> > > > we pass through the rajasic phase and from sahasrara onward we> enter> > > the> > > > sattvic. Upto muladhar, evolution is automatic. Prakriticontrols> them> > > > completely and benevolently, as they don't think and have nopower>

of> > > > realisation. Can we relate these with actual manifestations in a> > > native?> > > >> > > > Once kundalini or primordial shakti, reaches muladhara,evolution> is> > > no> > > > longer spontaneous as man finds awareness of time and space, and> he> > > gets an> > > > ego. He has a higher consciousness and he has to work towardshis> > > evolution.> > > > That is why it is said that kundalini is sleeping in muladhara> chakra> > > and> > > > for further progress beyond this point it has to be pushed.Within> > > their> > > > range of chakras, all individuals within the species are at> different> > > levels> > > > on the scale of evolution due to their progress in

previouslives,> or> > > the> > > > sadhana and sanskars. e.g someone might have kundalini inanahata> at> > > birth,> > > > and its ascension should start from there. But we can't remember> our> > > > previous lives, so we also forget about the state and level ofthe> our> > > > kundalini. Can't we try and locate this point of evolution inthe> > > chart?> > > >> > > > People born with awakened chakras and kundalini appear to be are> > > superior> > > > people in different aspects of life, depending upon the level of> > > > achievement. They may be great musicians, artists, scientists,> > > research> > > > scholars, inventors, prophets, statesmen, etc. Children bornwith> > > higher>

> > > shakti may show different manifestations as they grow up.However,> our> > > > materialistic societies consider these manifestations asabnormal> and> > > those> > > > who display them are subjected to psychoanalysis andpsychological> > > scrutiny> > > > and treatment. How do we see this in the horoscope? Is R/K axisa> > > pointer to> > > > this development?> > > >> > > > The ultimate purpose of this shakti is to ascend through all the> > > chakras and> > > > to awaken them and their related parts of the brain. Aren'tthese> > > changes> > > > significantly relevant to with our day to day life. At themental> > > level, it> > > > will relate to our emotional make up. Our love and hatred,

our> > > relationships> > > > with people, they are the consequences of the quality of our> present> > > mind.> > > > Our sufferings, agonies and frustrations are not so much due to> the> > > > circumstances of life, but more to the responses of our mind.The> > > higher> > > > qualities of a man, such as love, compassion, charity, mercy,etc.> are> > > the> > > > expressions of a mind which is influenced by awakened> conciousness. Is> > > > Kaal-sarp yog pointing to these developments in a soul?> > > >> > > > In essence, the concept of muladhara is understood as moola> prakriti,> > > the> > > > transcendental basis of physical nature. The whole universe and> all> > > its> >

> > objects must have some basis from which they evolve and to which> they> > > return> > > > after dissolution. The original source of all evolution is mula> > > prakriti.> > > > Muladhara, as the basis of mula prakriti, is responsible for> > > everything that> > > > manifests in the world of name and form. And that everything> should be> > > > visible in the horoscope if observed from this 'root' angle.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Neelam> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without> download. Go to http://in.webmessen ger.. com/> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go tohttp://messenger. / invite/>

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January 20, 2009

Dear Chiranjiv ji,

// I want to know what Ketu will do when it is in own chart ? and it is

supposed to have " Sthanbala " . Is it therefore misplaced in Karma house.

Pls explain //

You will have to explain me, what is meant by the above. I am nt able to

understand.

I will get back on Ketus effects, little later. I have my father not

keeping good health. I can only talk on specifics now, and not on

any genreal topics.

regards,

Bhaskar.

January 21, 2009

Respected Bhaskar ji,this is a question which none of the astrologers have been able to satisfactorily answer. When a person has a kalasarpa yoga and if you exclude rahu and ketu and find that none of the 7 planets actually aspect each other, being in 4 consecutive houses, what impact would it have on the person? what would be the implications of this arrangement of planets.? Thanking you, With regards,Anita--- On Tue, 20/1/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Kala Sarpa in real force Date: Tuesday, 20 January, 2009, 11:53 AM

Dear Chiranjivi,

Moola nakshatra is owned by Ketu itself, so

here you have a planet in its own nakshatra.

The natural characteristsics of Moola and

Ketu are already discussed in hundreds of

books, and I need not repeat these

to a knowledgable person like you.

What will ketu give this girl ?

There are 9 Planets in a chart which indicate

everything what a man does in his life,

during his sojourn on the earth.

In this particular chart, ketu will activate

at least 6 planets in her chart . Notice

there are 5 planets aspecting Ketu. Their

effects will come in Life when Ketu dasha

arrives. Then you have also to take into

influence the effect of Jupiter who is the

Raashi lord of Ketu. The effects of Jupiter

whatever it shows in her chart, too will be

experienced by the native when Ketu arrives.

If You include Ketu also, then totally 7

Planets will be included. So there would be

a total make over or a Great shift and

turnover in her Life, changes of great magnitude

influencing almost all departments of her Life,

during Ketu dasha.

Rahu Chandra and Rahu Mars will both be very

good periods for her.

Rahu Mars in fact would be very beneficial for

her, contrary to what we know about Rahu Mars in

the general results .

There is a strongchance of Love marriage to this

girl, or Love cum arranged marriage.

This chart is a very fortunate one, in terms of

materialstic fulfillments.

regards,

Bhaskar.

ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta

<vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

> My mistake.

> It is 29th June 1983. Mumbai, India.

> Place of Birth:Ã‚ Mumbai

> Time : 00.20 am

> Ã‚

> What is the effect of Ketu in Moola Nakshatra in General ? And what

would it do for this girl

> ( so that I can ask for some feedback ). She is normal to look at.

> About Budh, I remember itÃ‚ had negligible degree (I think 0).

Horoscope did not have Bhava Chalit.

> Ã‚

> Thanks & Regards

> Ã‚

> Chiranjiv MehtaÃ‚

>

> --- On Mon, 19/1/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

>

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Kala Sarpa in real force

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Monday, 19 January, 2009, 10:35 PM

>

Dear Chiranjivi ji,

>

> Thanks for the appreciation.

>

> But please give me the birth details, as in 1985 these combinations as

> mentioned by you, just cannot be possible at any rate.

>

> It appears to be 1983 but without spending much time I have got June

> 28th 1983 to the nearest configurations menioned by You. Except that

> Mercurry cannot be fitted here in Gemini. Rest all factors match.

>

> Please confirm. On what date to proceed.

>

> regards,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta

> <vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskarji,

> > Please accept my standing ovation for such an indepth

explanationÃƒâ€š

> in the last 2Ãƒâ€š mails.

> > I was expecting more add ons by other members; I think they will

come

> soon.

> > In the meanwhile I got to see a horoscope on Sunday which has :

> > Asc : Pisces

> > 4th house : Rahu, Mangal, Budh & Sun.

> > 5th house : Sukra

> > 8th house :Ãƒâ€š Tula RashiÃƒâ€š Sani ®

> > 9th house : Jupiter ®

> > 10th house : KETU, MOOLA NAKSHATRA, (SAG)

> > 11th house : Chandra

> > Ãƒâ€š

> > I think born in 1985. Parents ( far relatives ) had sent for

> prospective alliance.

> > I want to know what effect this Ketu will give her. I personally

> talked with her Dad and asked her what she does, just to cross check

> with your observations.

> > Please do not consider it a free reading. Let me know about the

> effects of KETU in Moola Nakshatra.

> > Ãƒâ€š

> > Thanks & Regards

> > Ãƒâ€š

> > Chiranjiv

> >

> > --- On Sat, 17/1/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Kala Sarpa in real force

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Saturday, 17 January, 2009, 4:44 PM

>

> > Re-Joinder

> > We were talking about Mula. Its nothing but the root , from where

you

> come. The ground from where the potato comes,

> > from where the Mula ( White vegetable) comesÃƒâ€š .

> > The origin - Mula nakshatra ruled by Ketu.Ãƒâ€š

> > Ãƒâ€š

> > But first we shall talk of the Muladhar chakra

> > in very short. This chakra represents the Bhu-Loka or

> > the physical plane.Ãƒâ€š It is symbolised by 4 petals

> > known as Vang,Shang,kshang, and Sang.

> > for our sake kshang signifies the orhgans of generation

> > and sex desire. Sang represents reproducrtion.

> > the ruling planet as I said in my earlier mail, is Mars here.

> > Which is why I said that without a averagely good Mars one

> > cannot have a child or even proper sex.Ãƒâ€š The vayu for

> > this chakra is apan vayu, the air that expels the semen from

> > the male organ, and also which pushes the child from the

> > womb during birth.Ãƒâ€š Mooladhar is the seat of the Kundalini

> > Shakti.

> > Ãƒâ€š

> > From whence you came, thence you will go finally.

> > We are the ansha of parmatma, and known as atma .

> > Unless we raise ourselves to the level of opening the

> > 1000 petals in the Sahasra Chakra we can never reach

> > the Satyam LokaÃƒâ€š or Tejas Loka represented by Ketu.

> > Ãƒâ€š

> > Connection of the Kundalini with Sahasra Chakra.

> > Ãƒâ€š

> > When the Kundalini is raised upto the Sahasra Chakra, the illusion

of

> > "individual" self is dissolved. The Yogi becomes realized. He

> encounters Kamadhenu the wish fulfilling cow within himself ( There is

> also a point in the Horoscope chart known as Kamadhenu point, but

cannot

> talk about itÃƒâ€š presently ).

> > Ãƒâ€š

> > The Mooladhara thus has the power to raise one to the mokshkaraka

Ketu

> if one is able to raise the Energy of Mars and channelise it to this

> level.

> > Ãƒâ€š

> > The Mula nakshatra represented by Mula is nothing but the

> significations of Ketu in this combination of Stars, which are our

roots

> from where we came, and where we will go, back to Godhead, someday or

> the other, some janma or the other. Ãƒâ€š

> > Ãƒâ€š

> > regards/bhaskar

> > Ãƒâ€š

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"

> <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Neelamji, Chiranjiviji and the others.

> > > As usual I could only expect a beautiful post from you, which I

feel

> > > incompetent enough to supplement another, with the same fineese

> which

> > > you possess. You are extremely true to the word of what has been

> > > written. Rahu and Ketu about which the Indians well know, since

they

> > > are little children,actually form the whole circuit of activities

in

> > > this Life which we would be strung with, and Rahu Ketu ingrain the

> > > triggers of what has to be in a persons Life,through the various

> > > sufferings, elations and experiences an individual would go

through

> all

> > > his Life. I could write hundreds of pages on Rahu and Ketu, but as

> > > Chiranjiviji said and believes that Bhaskar does not like

Esoteric,

> I

> > > will get to the point of what I feel must be mentioned at the cost

> of

> > > repetition of common knowledge but yet uncommon to many seekers.

The

> > > Pointers in a Chart for the Chakras - Mooladhara chakra Location -

> In

> > > base of spine between anus and genitials. The Ruling planet is

Mars.

> (

> > > Without aggression of Mars one cannot procreate. Remember Mangal

> dosha

> > > in marriage ? ) Swadhisthan chakra Location - Hypo gastric plexus

> > > :genitials. The Ruling planet is Mercury Manipura Chakra Location

-

> > > in spinal column exactly at the level of the navel. The Ruling

> planet is

> > > the Sun. Anahata Chakra Location - In vertebral column behind the

> > > base of the heart. The Ruling planet is Venus. Vishuddhi Chakra

> > > Location - Throat pit. The Ruling planet is Jupiter. Agya/Ajna

> Chakra

> > > Location - Medulla plexus, point between eyebrows. The Ruling

planet

> is

> > > Saturn. Sahasra Chakra Location - At top of the cranium,cerebal

> > > plexus. The Ruling Planet is Ketu.( You know now why Ketu is

called

> > > Mokshakaraka ?) We can further expand on the above in areas of

> > > descriptions of each chakra, their functions in the body,beej

> mantras

> > > for each, place, petals, Varna, Cosmic ray, Lok, Words for petals,

> > > Namtatva, tatva beej, Beejvahan, Guna, dev, Dev shakti, Yantra,

> > > Gyanendriya, karmendriya, Dhyanphala, English name etc etc. But

> where

> > > is the planet Rahu in the above ? We shall answer that later.. In

the

> > > meanwhile one may check his planets in his chart and find out

which

> are

> > > weak and debilitated and check the corresponding areas in his body

> > > represented by the Chakra of the particular planet .this will give

> you

> > > an idea of which Chakras need cleansing in your body. You may also

> > > confirm by checking the planets in your chart ( if you know what

> they

> > > represent ). For instance the Sun is having Cosmic rays of red

> colour in

> > > the VIBGYOR. its element or panchamahabhoot is Fire . It causes

> Tridosha

> > > of pitta. its temperetaure is hot,Life giving. its quality is

> rajasic

> > > and force is energetic. Then again it rules the Solar or Abdomonal

> > > plexus ( Manipur Chakra) in the body. It is the significator of

> Saman

> > > vayu in the body. Its saptadhatu is Bone. The plane of disease

> caused

> > > due to the Red Cosmic colour would be spiritual ( Not easy to

> treat).

> > > The sensitive organ ruled would be the eyes. The subject of the

> > > sensitive organ would be Form. The taste would be pungent. In case

> of

> > > disease due to this chakra being afflicted the coulour of cosmic

> rays to

> > > be given to the patient would be of Orange or Green Cosmic rays.

The

> > > wave length would be 800-650 (Milli microns). it rules the

Pranamaya

> > > Kosha. There are hundreds of such matters above, to determine,

check

> > > and either eradicate or enforce, otherwise no meaning in searching

> for

> > > the Chakras in the chart, which is why I am never interested in

> writing

> > > such matters which take up lots of time, and nobody can make

> worthwhile

> > > use of the same unless he is really interested in going deep.. Now

> our

> > > unasnwered question - Where is Rahu among the Chakras ? Rahu is

> > > actually the cause of us being here. Which is why I always check

the

> > > House and sign where Rahu appears in a chart. There would the

> > > rinabadhanas of that native lie, to be fulfilled in this janma.

The

> Lord

> > > of the Raashi where Rahu appears signifies cerytain people with

whom

> > > your rinabandhanas have to be completed with. The activities in

> which

> > > the house in the chart which is represneted by Rahu, will be those

> > > activities where your loyalties must be true , in this janma , to

> clear

> > > the deficit. For instance Rahu in Leo. The Lord of this sign is

The

> Sun.

> > > The Sun represents father and father figures in the family. Your

> duties

> > > and loyalties lie in this janma towards them, and it would be no

> easy

> > > ropewalk to meet these, coz these same people with whom you are

> expected

> > > to fulfill your duties would create trouble to you and not allow

you

> to

> > > settle the past karmas. Rahu suppose in 7th house, then a persons

> > > loyalties this janmalies with his wife. he has to make her happy

at

> any

> > > cost even if it means being having to be bludgeoned daily by the

> lady.

> > > Rahu isi the cause of creation for us. Ketu is the target to

achieve

> > > and get out Rahu is the gateway to this earth ( The serpents Mouth

)

> > > and till we remain on Earth, ie.within the serpent, its Maya all

> around,

> > > and once having gone through the tail which is ketu, you can enter

> the

> > > Satyam Loka of the Sahasra Chakra when all the 1000 Petals of the

> Lotus

> > > would be opened and you would be one with the Whole. This you will

> not

> > > find written in any book for its my own realisation and there are

> many

> > > such secrets of astrology which are yet to be told, and will not

be

> > > learnt through any software but only through self experience..

Check

> > > out Your Rahus - Where are they in the chart. Which people they

> > > represent. Which houses they appear. Which activities they

represent

> in

> > > your Life. You will be shockedat what you find. the truth. Forget

> > > looking for Chakra sin the charts. we are not that adept. look out

> for

> > > Rahu. pacify it. Till you are not able to pacify you will remain

in

> the

> > > serpents body ( maya ). Once you do it, Then seek for Ketu.

regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta

> > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > *Astrological Exploration of the Mula (ROOT) Point *

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, Bohra ji, Pradeep ji and group,

> > > >

> > > > With the two ongoing discussions, I am encouraged to share my

> views on

> > > the

> > > > astrological connection of Mula and Muladhar (as being discussed

> in

> > > the

> > > > other thread by Bohraji and Pradeep ji) with the R/K and kaal

sarp

> as

> > > being

> > > > discussed in this thread.

> > > >

> > > > Astrologically, this subject of 'mula' or root has a deep import

> and a

> > > chart

> > > > may unfold some significant details when we observe or read it

> from

> > > this

> > > > angle. It can throw light on the different manifestations at all

> > > levels of a

> > > > being ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬" physical, mental and spiritual. What is the

> astrological

> > > > significance of three mula points of transmutation and the 'one

> actual

> > > mula'

> > > > in any chart? Are they really to be dreaded? Are planets really

> weak

> > > when

> > > > posited at these points? If so, why and when?

> > > >

> > > > How can we read kaal-sarp in the 'root' (mula) light. What is

the

> > > > significance of ketu's position in a chart. What does this moksh

> karak

> > > > really do? Does it really give moksh or shows us the path to

> evolve to

> > > > higher state of being? Why does ketu inflict physical hardships

> and

> > > mental

> > > > worries? How other planets align themselves with this primary

> point?

> > > >

> > > > All these answers come from understanding the principle of Mula

as

> in

> > > > tantra. Once understood, the horoscope will reveal many

different

> > > aspects of

> > > > the personality. For certain significations, we can directly

> co-relate

> > > with

> > > > the yogic body, but for some we have to look for deeper esoteric

> > > meanings.

> > > > e.g a native having serious affliction to jyeshtha/mula sandhi,

> might

> > > suffer

> > > > injuries/diseases in the area represented by this, but there is

> also

> > > another

> > > > impact which is at psychic level and another one which pushes

him

> on

> > > the

> > > > spiritual levels.

> > > >

> > > > I think if we catch the Muladhar point in the chart we may see

> where

> > > we

> > > > stand in PMS plane. Some pointers can be:

> > > >

> > > > Muladhar is the basic, fundamental chakra from where human

beings

> > > commence

> > > > their evolution which passes through the 7 main chakras and

> sahasrara

> > > is

> > > > where our evolution is completed. Why man sits upright at this

> stage

> > > of

> > > > evolution?

> > > >

> > > > Animals have seven inferior chakras called atala, vitala,

sutala,

> > > talatala,

> > > > rasatala, mahatala and the lowest is patala and nadis are

situated

> in

> > > their

> > > > legs which flow to their confluence point at muladhar chakra

just

> as

> > > the

> > > > nadis in our body flow to ajna chakra. Just as muladhara is the

> lowest

> > > > chakra in the human body, patala is the lowest in the animal

> kingdom

> > > and it

> > > > represents total darkness, where nature is not functioning and

> matter

> > > is

> > > > completely dormant and static. Chakras above sahasrara represent

> the

> > > higher

> > > > divine conciousness. Sahasrara is the highest in human evolution

> and

> > > the

> > > > first step in the highest divine evolution. How are the Lokas

and

> the

> > > life

> > > > within these lokas described in the shastras. Don't we see the

> > > behavioural

> > > > pattern and psychology of a person unfolding here?

> > > >

> > > > Kundalini is the shakti said to control every affair of life.

When

> it

> > > passes

> > > > through the animal stages of evolution, it influences the whole

> > > species with

> > > > avidya or ignorance and the animal kingdom is compelled to

follow

> the

> > > > tamasic phase of eating, sleeping, fearing and mating. From

> muladhara

> > > onward

> > > > we pass through the rajasic phase and from sahasrara onward we

> enter

> > > the

> > > > sattvic. Upto muladhar, evolution is automatic. Prakriti

controls

> them

> > > > completely and benevolently, as they don't think and have no

power

> of

> > > > realisation. Can we relate these with actual manifestations in a

> > > native?

> > > >

> > > > Once kundalini or primordial shakti, reaches muladhara,

evolution

> is

> > > no

> > > > longer spontaneous as man finds awareness of time and space, and

> he

> > > gets an

> > > > ego. He has a higher consciousness and he has to work towards

his

> > > evolution.

> > > > That is why it is said that kundalini is sleeping in muladhara

> chakra

> > > and

> > > > for further progress beyond this point it has to be pushed.

Within

> > > their

> > > > range of chakras, all individuals within the species are at

> different

> > > levels

> > > > on the scale of evolution due to their progress in previous

lives,

> or

> > > the

> > > > sadhana and sanskars. e.g someone might have kundalini in

anahata

> at

> > > birth,

> > > > and its ascension should start from there. But we can't remember

> our

> > > > previous lives, so we also forget about the state and level of

the

> our

> > > > kundalini. Can't we try and locate this point of evolution in

the

> > > chart?

> > > >

> > > > People born with awakened chakras and kundalini appear to be are

> > > superior

> > > > people in different aspects of life, depending upon the level of

> > > > achievement. They may be great musicians, artists, scientists,

> > > research

> > > > scholars, inventors, prophets, statesmen, etc. Children born

with

> > > higher

> > > > shakti may show different manifestations as they grow up.

However,

> our

> > > > materialistic societies consider these manifestations as

abnormal

> and

> > > those

> > > > who display them are subjected to psychoanalysis and

psychological

> > > scrutiny

> > > > and treatment. How do we see this in the horoscope? Is R/K axis

a

> > > pointer to

> > > > this development?

> > > >

> > > > The ultimate purpose of this shakti is to ascend through all the

> > > chakras and

> > > > to awaken them and their related parts of the brain. Aren't

these

> > > changes

> > > > significantly relevant to with our day to day life. At the

mental

> > > level, it

> > > > will relate to our emotional make up. Our love and hatred, our

> > > relationships

> > > > with people, they are the consequences of the quality of our

> present

> > > mind.

> > > > Our sufferings, agonies and frustrations are not so much due to

> the

> > > > circumstances of life, but more to the responses of our mind.

The

> > > higher

> > > > qualities of a man, such as love, compassion, charity, mercy,

etc.

> are

> > > the

> > > > expressions of a mind which is influenced by awakened

> conciousness. Is

> > > > Kaal-sarp yog pointing to these developments in a soul?

> > > >

> > > > In essence, the concept of muladhara is understood as moola

> prakriti,

> > > the

> > > > transcendental basis of physical nature. The whole universe and

> all

> > > its

> > > > objects must have some basis from which they evolve and to which

> they

> > > return

> > > > after dissolution. The original source of all evolution is mula

> > > prakriti.

> > > > Muladhara, as the basis of mula prakriti, is responsible for

> > > everything that

> > > > manifests in the world of name and form. And that everything

> should be

> > > > visible in the horoscope if observed from this 'root' angle.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Neelam

> > > >

> > >

> >

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January 21, 2009

Hello ,

I agree wit u anita g well no one has come to satifactory answer on Kal Sarpa Yoga well as K.N Rao says there is none and nothing written about it as (I agree wit me ) well gone through lot of Kal Sapra Yoga well as they say Kal Sarpa Yoga gives immese problem in life well not neccesaary tht people who dont have Kal Sarpa Ypga dont go through problem in life as for example my Father has so called Kal Sarpa Yoga and rised in Rahu Dasha travelled first class and all over India His details r Karan Virmani Date:19.08.1947 time is 11.05.00 Am place is Dehra Dun , Thank Mohit

January 21, 2009

Dear Anita ji,

One with good intelligence cannot exactly even explain why he is having

a headache, or why he is unhappy in Life, which requires no technical

education, the how can astrologers be expected to answer every query

coming out of the blue, with satisfaction ? Thats just not possible.

There is a limit to knowledge acquired by humans, and even more limit to

a individuals acquired knowledge.

But please give me a example of the chart configurations given by you,

with a date of birth, time of birth and the place of birth. Lt us talk

on facts and figures and see if we arrive at some conclusion and

consensus.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, Anita R <ash.rsh55

wrote:

>

> Respected Bhaskar ji,

> this is a question which none of the astrologers have been able to

satisfactorily answer. When a person has a kalasarpa yoga and if you

exclude rahu and ketu and find that none of the 7 planets actually

aspect each other, being in 4 consecutive houses, what impact would it

have on the person? what would be the implications of this arrangement

of planets.?

> Thanking you,

> With regards,

> Anita

> --- On Tue, 20/1/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

> Re: Kala Sarpa in real force

>

> Tuesday, 20 January, 2009, 11:53 AM

>

Dear Chiranjivi,

>

> Moola nakshatra is owned by Ketu itself, so

>

> here you have a planet in its own nakshatra.

>

> The natural characteristsics of Moola and

>

> Ketu are already discussed in hundreds of

>

> books, and I need not repeat these

>

> to a knowledgable person like you.

>

> What will ketu give this girl ?

>

> There are 9 Planets in a chart which indicate

>

> everything what a man does in his life,

>

> during his sojourn on the earth.

>

> In this particular chart, ketu will activate

>

> at least 6 planets in her chart . Notice

>

> there are 5 planets aspecting Ketu. Their

>

> effects will come in Life when Ketu dasha

>

> arrives. Then you have also to take into

>

> influence the effect of Jupiter who is the

>

> Raashi lord of Ketu. The effects of Jupiter

>

> whatever it shows in her chart, too will be

>

> experienced by the native when Ketu arrives.

>

> If You include Ketu also, then totally 7

>

> Planets will be included. So there would be

>

> a total make over or a Great shift and

>

> turnover in her Life, changes of great magnitude

>

> influencing almost all departments of her Life,

>

> during Ketu dasha.

>

> Rahu Chandra and Rahu Mars will both be very

>

> good periods for her.

>

> Rahu Mars in fact would be very beneficial for

>

> her, contrary to what we know about Rahu Mars in

>

> the general results .

>

> There is a strongchance of Love marriage to this

>

> girl, or Love cum arranged marriage.

>

> This chart is a very fortunate one, in terms of

>

> materialstic fulfillments.

>

> regards,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta

>

> <vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Dear Sir,

>

> > My mistake.

>

> > It is 29th June 1983. Mumbai, India.

>

> > Place of Birth:Ã‚ Mumbai

>

> > Time : 00.20 am

>

> > Ã‚

>

> > What is the effect of Ketu in Moola Nakshatra in General ? And what

>

> would it do for this girl

>

> > ( so that I can ask for some feedback ). She is normal to look at.

>

> > About Budh, I remember itÃ‚ had negligible degree (I think 0).

>

> Horoscope did not have Bhava Chalit.

>

> > Ã‚

>

> > Thanks & Regards

>

> > Ã‚

>

> > Chiranjiv MehtaÃ‚

>

> >

>

> > --- On Mon, 19/1/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

>

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Kala Sarpa in real force

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

>

> > Monday, 19 January, 2009, 10:35 PM

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Dear Chiranjivi ji,

>

> >

>

> > Thanks for the appreciation.

>

> >

>

> > But please give me the birth details, as in 1985 these combinations

as

>

> > mentioned by you, just cannot be possible at any rate.

>

> >

>

> > It appears to be 1983 but without spending much time I have got June

>

> > 28th 1983 to the nearest configurations menioned by You. Except that

>

> > Mercurry cannot be fitted here in Gemini. Rest all factors match.

>

> >

>

> > Please confirm. On what date to proceed.

>

> >

>

> > regards,

>

> >

>

> > Bhaskar.

>

> >

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta

>

> > <vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > > Dear Bhaskarji,

>

> > > Please accept my standing ovation for such an indepth

>

> explanationÃƒâ€š

>

> > in the last 2Ãƒâ€š mails.

>

> > > I was expecting more add ons by other members; I think they will

>

> come

>

> > soon.

>

> > > In the meanwhile I got to see a horoscope on Sunday which has :

>

> > > Asc : Pisces

>

> > > 4th house : Rahu, Mangal, Budh & Sun.

>

> > > 5th house : Sukra

>

> > > 8th house :Ãƒâ€š Tula RashiÃƒâ€š Sani ®

>

> > > 9th house : Jupiter ®

>

> > > 10th house : KETU, MOOLA NAKSHATRA, (SAG)

>

> > > 11th house : Chandra

>

> > > Ãƒâ€š

>

> > > I think born in 1985. Parents ( far relatives ) had sent for

>

> > prospective alliance.

>

> > > I want to know what effect this Ketu will give her. I personally

>

> > talked with her Dad and asked her what she does, just to cross check

>

> > with your observations.

>

> > > Please do not consider it a free reading. Let me know about the

>

> > effects of KETU in Moola Nakshatra.

>

> > > Ãƒâ€š

>

> > > Thanks & Regards

>

> > > Ãƒâ€š

>

> > > Chiranjiv

>

> > >

>

> > > --- On Sat, 17/1/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

>

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Kala Sarpa in real force

>

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

>

> > > Saturday, 17 January, 2009, 4:44 PM

>

> >

>

> > > Re-Joinder

>

> > > We were talking about Mula. Its nothing but the root , from where

>

> you

>

> > come. The ground from where the potato comes,

>

> > > from where the Mula ( White vegetable) comesÃƒâ€š .

>

> > > The origin - Mula nakshatra ruled by Ketu.Ãƒâ€š

>

> > > Ãƒâ€š

>

> > > But first we shall talk of the Muladhar chakra

>

> > > in very short. This chakra represents the Bhu-Loka or

>

> > > the physical plane.Ãƒâ€š It is symbolised by 4 petals

>

> > > known as Vang,Shang,kshang, and Sang.

>

> > > for our sake kshang signifies the orhgans of generation

>

> > > and sex desire. Sang represents reproducrtion.

>

> > > the ruling planet as I said in my earlier mail, is Mars here.

>

> > > Which is why I said that without a averagely good Mars one

>

> > > cannot have a child or even proper sex.Ãƒâ€š The vayu for

>

> > > this chakra is apan vayu, the air that expels the semen from

>

> > > the male organ, and also which pushes the child from the

>

> > > womb during birth.Ãƒâ€š Mooladhar is the seat of the

Kundalini

>

> > > Shakti.

>

> > > Ãƒâ€š

>

> > > From whence you came, thence you will go finally.

>

> > > We are the ansha of parmatma, and known as atma .

>

> > > Unless we raise ourselves to the level of opening the

>

> > > 1000 petals in the Sahasra Chakra we can never reach

>

> > > the Satyam LokaÃƒâ€š or Tejas Loka represented by Ketu.

>

> > > Ãƒâ€š

>

> > > Connection of the Kundalini with Sahasra Chakra.

>

> > > Ãƒâ€š

>

> > > When the Kundalini is raised upto the Sahasra Chakra, the illusion

>

> of

>

> > > " individual " self is dissolved. The Yogi becomes realized. He

>

> > encounters Kamadhenu the wish fulfilling cow within himself ( There

is

>

> > also a point in the Horoscope chart known as Kamadhenu point, but

>

> cannot

>

> > talk about itÃƒâ€š presently ).

>

> > > Ãƒâ€š

>

> > > The Mooladhara thus has the power to raise one to the mokshkaraka

>

> Ketu

>

> > if one is able to raise the Energy of Mars and channelise it to this

>

> > level.

>

> > > Ãƒâ€š

>

> > > The Mula nakshatra represented by Mula is nothing but the

>

> > significations of Ketu in this combination of Stars, which are our

>

> roots

>

> > from where we came, and where we will go, back to Godhead, someday

or

>

> > the other, some janma or the other. Ãƒâ€š

>

> > > Ãƒâ€š

>

> > > regards/bhaskar

>

> > > Ãƒâ€š

>

> > > Ãƒâ€š

>

> > >

>

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

>

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Dear Neelamji, Chiranjiviji and the others.

>

> > > > As usual I could only expect a beautiful post from you, which I

>

> feel

>

> > > > incompetent enough to supplement another, with the same fineese

>

> > which

>

> > > > you possess. You are extremely true to the word of what has been

>

> > > > written. Rahu and Ketu about which the Indians well know, since

>

> they

>

> > > > are little children,actually form the whole circuit of

activities

>

> in

>

> > > > this Life which we would be strung with, and Rahu Ketu ingrain

the

>

> > > > triggers of what has to be in a persons Life,through the various

>

> > > > sufferings, elations and experiences an individual would go

>

> through

>

> > all

>

> > > > his Life. I could write hundreds of pages on Rahu and Ketu, but

as

>

> > > > Chiranjiviji said and believes that Bhaskar does not like

>

> Esoteric,

>

> > I

>

> > > > will get to the point of what I feel must be mentioned at the

cost

>

> > of

>

> > > > repetition of common knowledge but yet uncommon to many seekers.

>

> The

>

> > > > Pointers in a Chart for the Chakras - Mooladhara chakra Location

-

>

> > In

>

> > > > base of spine between anus and genitials. The Ruling planet is

>

> Mars.

>

> > (

>

> > > > Without aggression of Mars one cannot procreate. Remember Mangal

>

> > dosha

>

> > > > in marriage ? ) Swadhisthan chakra Location - Hypo gastric

plexus

>

> > > > :genitials. The Ruling planet is Mercury Manipura Chakra

Location

>

> -

>

> > > > in spinal column exactly at the level of the navel. The Ruling

>

> > planet is

>

> > > > the Sun. Anahata Chakra Location - In vertebral column behind

the

>

> > > > base of the heart. The Ruling planet is Venus. Vishuddhi Chakra

>

> > > > Location - Throat pit. The Ruling planet is Jupiter. Agya/Ajna

>

> > Chakra

>

> > > > Location - Medulla plexus, point between eyebrows. The Ruling

>

> planet

>

> > is

>

> > > > Saturn. Sahasra Chakra Location - At top of the cranium,cerebal

>

> > > > plexus. The Ruling Planet is Ketu.( You know now why Ketu is

>

> called

>

> > > > Mokshakaraka ?) We can further expand on the above in areas of

>

> > > > descriptions of each chakra, their functions in the body,beej

>

> > mantras

>

> > > > for each, place, petals, Varna, Cosmic ray, Lok, Words for

petals,

>

> > > > Namtatva, tatva beej, Beejvahan, Guna, dev, Dev shakti, Yantra,

>

> > > > Gyanendriya, karmendriya, Dhyanphala, English name etc etc. But

>

> > where

>

> > > > is the planet Rahu in the above ? We shall answer that later. In

>

> the

>

> > > > meanwhile one may check his planets in his chart and find out

>

> which

>

> > are

>

> > > > weak and debilitated and check the corresponding areas in his

body

>

> > > > represented by the Chakra of the particular planet .this will

give

>

> > you

>

> > > > an idea of which Chakras need cleansing in your body. You may

also

>

> > > > confirm by checking the planets in your chart ( if you know what

>

> > they

>

> > > > represent ). For instance the Sun is having Cosmic rays of red

>

> > colour in

>

> > > > the VIBGYOR. its element or panchamahabhoot is Fire . It causes

>

> > Tridosha

>

> > > > of pitta. its temperetaure is hot,Life giving. its quality is

>

> > rajasic

>

> > > > and force is energetic. Then again it rules the Solar or

Abdomonal

>

> > > > plexus ( Manipur Chakra) in the body. It is the significator of

>

> > Saman

>

> > > > vayu in the body. Its saptadhatu is Bone. The plane of disease

>

> > caused

>

> > > > due to the Red Cosmic colour would be spiritual ( Not easy to

>

> > treat).

>

> > > > The sensitive organ ruled would be the eyes. The subject of the

>

> > > > sensitive organ would be Form. The taste would be pungent. In

case

>

> > of

>

> > > > disease due to this chakra being afflicted the coulour of cosmic

>

> > rays to

>

> > > > be given to the patient would be of Orange or Green Cosmic rays.

>

> The

>

> > > > wave length would be 800-650 (Milli microns). it rules the

>

> Pranamaya

>

> > > > Kosha. There are hundreds of such matters above, to determine,

>

> check

>

> > > > and either eradicate or enforce, otherwise no meaning in

searching

>

> > for

>

> > > > the Chakras in the chart, which is why I am never interested in

>

> > writing

>

> > > > such matters which take up lots of time, and nobody can make

>

> > worthwhile

>

> > > > use of the same unless he is really interested in going deep.

Now

>

> > our

>

> > > > unasnwered question - Where is Rahu among the Chakras ? Rahu is

>

> > > > actually the cause of us being here. Which is why I always check

>

> the

>

> > > > House and sign where Rahu appears in a chart. There would the

>

> > > > rinabadhanas of that native lie, to be fulfilled in this janma.

>

> The

>

> > Lord

>

> > > > of the Raashi where Rahu appears signifies cerytain people with

>

> whom

>

> > > > your rinabandhanas have to be completed with. The activities in

>

> > which

>

> > > > the house in the chart which is represneted by Rahu, will be

those

>

> > > > activities where your loyalties must be true , in this janma ,

to

>

> > clear

>

> > > > the deficit. For instance Rahu in Leo. The Lord of this sign is

>

> The

>

> > Sun.

>

> > > > The Sun represents father and father figures in the family. Your

>

> > duties

>

> > > > and loyalties lie in this janma towards them, and it would be no

>

> > easy

>

> > > > ropewalk to meet these, coz these same people with whom you are

>

> > expected

>

> > > > to fulfill your duties would create trouble to you and not allow

>

> you

>

> > to

>

> > > > settle the past karmas. Rahu suppose in 7th house, then a

persons

>

> > > > loyalties this janmalies with his wife. he has to make her happy

>

> at

>

> > any

>

> > > > cost even if it means being having to be bludgeoned daily by the

>

> > lady.

>

> > > > Rahu isi the cause of creation for us. Ketu is the target to

>

> achieve

>

> > > > and get out Rahu is the gateway to this earth ( The serpents

Mouth

>

> )

>

> > > > and till we remain on Earth, ie.within the serpent, its Maya all

>

> > around,

>

> > > > and once having gone through the tail which is ketu, you can

enter

>

> > the

>

> > > > Satyam Loka of the Sahasra Chakra when all the 1000 Petals of

the

>

> > Lotus

>

> > > > would be opened and you would be one with the Whole. This you

will

>

> > not

>

> > > > find written in any book for its my own realisation and there

are

>

> > many

>

> > > > such secrets of astrology which are yet to be told, and will not

>

> be

>

> > > > learnt through any software but only through self experience.

>

> Check

>

> > > > out Your Rahus - Where are they in the chart. Which people they

>

> > > > represent. Which houses they appear. Which activities they

>

> represent

>

> > in

>

> > > > your Life. You will be shockedat what you find. the truth.

Forget

>

> > > > looking for Chakra sin the charts. we are not that adept. look

out

>

> > for

>

> > > > Rahu. pacify it. Till you are not able to pacify you will remain

>

> in

>

> > the

>

> > > > serpents body ( maya ). Once you do it, Then seek for Ketu.

>

> regards,

>

> > > > Bhaskar.

>

> > >

>

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta

>

> > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > *Astrological Exploration of the Mula (ROOT) Point *

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, Bohra ji, Pradeep ji and group,

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > With the two ongoing discussions, I am encouraged to share my

>

> > views on

>

> > > > the

>

> > > > > astrological connection of Mula and Muladhar (as being

discussed

>

> > in

>

> > > > the

>

> > > > > other thread by Bohraji and Pradeep ji) with the R/K and kaal

>

> sarp

>

> > as

>

> > > > being

>

> > > > > discussed in this thread.

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Astrologically, this subject of 'mula' or root has a deep

import

>

> > and a

>

> > > > chart

>

> > > > > may unfold some significant details when we observe or read it

>

> > from

>

> > > > this

>

> > > > > angle. It can throw light on the different manifestations at

all

>

> > > > levels of a

>

> > > > > being ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬ " physical, mental and spiritual. What

is the

>

> > astrological

>

> > > > > significance of three mula points of transmutation and the

'one

>

> > actual

>

> > > > mula'

>

> > > > > in any chart? Are they really to be dreaded? Are planets

really

>

> > weak

>

> > > > when

>

> > > > > posited at these points? If so, why and when?

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > How can we read kaal-sarp in the 'root' (mula) light. What is

>

> the

>

> > > > > significance of ketu's position in a chart. What does this

moksh

>

> > karak

>

> > > > > really do? Does it really give moksh or shows us the path to

>

> > evolve to

>

> > > > > higher state of being? Why does ketu inflict physical

hardships

>

> > and

>

> > > > mental

>

> > > > > worries? How other planets align themselves with this primary

>

> > point?

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > All these answers come from understanding the principle of

Mula

>

> as

>

> > in

>

> > > > > tantra. Once understood, the horoscope will reveal many

>

> different

>

> > > > aspects of

>

> > > > > the personality. For certain significations, we can directly

>

> > co-relate

>

> > > > with

>

> > > > > the yogic body, but for some we have to look for deeper

esoteric

>

> > > > meanings.

>

> > > > > e.g a native having serious affliction to jyeshtha/mula

sandhi,

>

> > might

>

> > > > suffer

>

> > > > > injuries/diseases in the area represented by this, but there

is

>

> > also

>

> > > > another

>

> > > > > impact which is at psychic level and another one which pushes

>

> him

>

> > on

>

> > > > the

>

> > > > > spiritual levels.

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > I think if we catch the Muladhar point in the chart we may see

>

> > where

>

> > > > we

>

> > > > > stand in PMS plane. Some pointers can be:

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Muladhar is the basic, fundamental chakra from where human

>

> beings

>

> > > > commence

>

> > > > > their evolution which passes through the 7 main chakras and

>

> > sahasrara

>

> > > > is

>

> > > > > where our evolution is completed. Why man sits upright at this

>

> > stage

>

> > > > of

>

> > > > > evolution?

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Animals have seven inferior chakras called atala, vitala,

>

> sutala,

>

> > > > talatala,

>

> > > > > rasatala, mahatala and the lowest is patala and nadis are

>

> situated

>

> > in

>

> > > > their

>

> > > > > legs which flow to their confluence point at muladhar chakra

>

> just

>

> > as

>

> > > > the

>

> > > > > nadis in our body flow to ajna chakra. Just as muladhara is

the

>

> > lowest

>

> > > > > chakra in the human body, patala is the lowest in the animal

>

> > kingdom

>

> > > > and it

>

> > > > > represents total darkness, where nature is not functioning and

>

> > matter

>

> > > > is

>

> > > > > completely dormant and static. Chakras above sahasrara

represent

>

> > the

>

> > > > higher

>

> > > > > divine conciousness. Sahasrara is the highest in human

evolution

>

> > and

>

> > > > the

>

> > > > > first step in the highest divine evolution. How are the Lokas

>

> and

>

> > the

>

> > > > life

>

> > > > > within these lokas described in the shastras. Don't we see the

>

> > > > behavioural

>

> > > > > pattern and psychology of a person unfolding here?

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Kundalini is the shakti said to control every affair of life.

>

> When

>

> > it

>

> > > > passes

>

> > > > > through the animal stages of evolution, it influences the

whole

>

> > > > species with

>

> > > > > avidya or ignorance and the animal kingdom is compelled to

>

> follow

>

> > the

>

> > > > > tamasic phase of eating, sleeping, fearing and mating. From

>

> > muladhara

>

> > > > onward

>

> > > > > we pass through the rajasic phase and from sahasrara onward we

>

> > enter

>

> > > > the

>

> > > > > sattvic. Upto muladhar, evolution is automatic. Prakriti

>

> controls

>

> > them

>

> > > > > completely and benevolently, as they don't think and have no

>

> power

>

> > of

>

> > > > > realisation. Can we relate these with actual manifestations in

a

>

> > > > native?

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Once kundalini or primordial shakti, reaches muladhara,

>

> evolution

>

> > is

>

> > > > no

>

> > > > > longer spontaneous as man finds awareness of time and space,

and

>

> > he

>

> > > > gets an

>

> > > > > ego. He has a higher consciousness and he has to work towards

>

> his

>

> > > > evolution.

>

> > > > > That is why it is said that kundalini is sleeping in muladhara

>

> > chakra

>

> > > > and

>

> > > > > for further progress beyond this point it has to be pushed.

>

> Within

>

> > > > their

>

> > > > > range of chakras, all individuals within the species are at

>

> > different

>

> > > > levels

>

> > > > > on the scale of evolution due to their progress in previous

>

> lives,

>

> > or

>

> > > > the

>

> > > > > sadhana and sanskars. e.g someone might have kundalini in

>

> anahata

>

> > at

>

> > > > birth,

>

> > > > > and its ascension should start from there. But we can't

remember

>

> > our

>

> > > > > previous lives, so we also forget about the state and level of

>

> the

>

> > our

>

> > > > > kundalini. Can't we try and locate this point of evolution in

>

> the

>

> > > > chart?

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > People born with awakened chakras and kundalini appear to be

are

>

> > > > superior

>

> > > > > people in different aspects of life, depending upon the level

of

>

> > > > > achievement. They may be great musicians, artists, scientists,

>

> > > > research

>

> > > > > scholars, inventors, prophets, statesmen, etc. Children born

>

> with

>

> > > > higher

>

> > > > > shakti may show different manifestations as they grow up.

>

> However,

>

> > our

>

> > > > > materialistic societies consider these manifestations as

>

> abnormal

>

> > and

>

> > > > those

>

> > > > > who display them are subjected to psychoanalysis and

>

> psychological

>

> > > > scrutiny

>

> > > > > and treatment. How do we see this in the horoscope? Is R/K

axis

>

> a

>

> > > > pointer to

>

> > > > > this development?

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > The ultimate purpose of this shakti is to ascend through all

the

>

> > > > chakras and

>

> > > > > to awaken them and their related parts of the brain. Aren't

>

> these

>

> > > > changes

>

> > > > > significantly relevant to with our day to day life. At the

>

> mental

>

> > > > level, it

>

> > > > > will relate to our emotional make up. Our love and hatred, our

>

> > > > relationships

>

> > > > > with people, they are the consequences of the quality of our

>

> > present

>

> > > > mind.

>

> > > > > Our sufferings, agonies and frustrations are not so much due

to

>

> > the

>

> > > > > circumstances of life, but more to the responses of our mind.

>

> The

>

> > > > higher

>

> > > > > qualities of a man, such as love, compassion, charity, mercy,

>

> etc.

>

> > are

>

> > > > the

>

> > > > > expressions of a mind which is influenced by awakened

>

> > conciousness. Is

>

> > > > > Kaal-sarp yog pointing to these developments in a soul?

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > In essence, the concept of muladhara is understood as moola

>

> > prakriti,

>

> > > > the

>

> > > > > transcendental basis of physical nature. The whole universe

and

>

> > all

>

> > > > its

>

> > > > > objects must have some basis from which they evolve and to

which

>

> > they

>

> > > > return

>

> > > > > after dissolution. The original source of all evolution is

mula

>

> > > > prakriti.

>

> > > > > Muladhara, as the basis of mula prakriti, is responsible for

>

> > > > everything that

>

> > > > > manifests in the world of name and form. And that everything

>

> > should be

>

> > > > > visible in the horoscope if observed from this 'root' angle.

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Regards

>

> > > > > Neelam

>

> > > > >

>

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January 21, 2009

Dear Mohitji,

But i feel perhaps you are also a believer in the myth that kala Sarpa

Yoga is just evil, which is in fact is not completely true.

Talking in crude language do all Dogs bite and only harmful ? Dont they

also serve faithfully as pets to their masters ? What about snakes ? Are

they not useful with their posions and elimination of certain rodents ?

Dont the snake charmers earn from snakes ?

Kala Sarpa though evil in nature but eventually has produced the

greatest of successful men in history too, if we make a study on the

same.

i have already proved the existence of this Yoga and what is written in

the texts in one of my previous mails. The term may have been coined

later on as " Kala sarpa Yoga ' but this combination of rahu Ketu axis

has been well explained in the texts.

regards,

bhaskar.

, Mohit Virmani

<mohitvirmani33 wrote:

>

> Hello ,

>

> I agree wit u anita g well no one has come to satifactory

answer on Kal Sarpa Yoga well as K.N Rao says there is none and nothing

written about it as (I agree wit me ) well gone through lot of Kal Sapra

Yoga well as they say Kal Sarpa Yoga gives immese problem in life well

not neccesaary tht people who dont have Kal Sarpa Ypga dont go through

problem in life as for example my Father has so called Kal Sarpa Yoga

and rised in Rahu Dasha travelled first class and all over India His

details r Karan Virmani Date:19.08.1947 time is 11.05.00 Am place is

Dehra Dun , Thank Mohit

>

> --- On Wed, 1/21/09, Anita R ash.rsh55 wrote:

>

> Anita R ash.rsh55

> Re: Re: Kala Sarpa in real force

>

> Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 6:26 AM

>

Respected Bhaskar ji,

> this is a question which none of the astrologers have been able to

satisfactorily answer. When a person has a kalasarpa yoga and if you

exclude rahu and ketu and find that none of the 7 planets actually

aspect each other, being in 4 consecutive houses, what impact would it

have on the person? what would be the implications of this arrangement

of planets.?

> Thanking you,

> With regards,

> Anita

> --- On Tue, 20/1/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Kala Sarpa in real force

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Tuesday, 20 January, 2009, 11:53 AM

>

> Dear Chiranjivi,

>

> Moola nakshatra is owned by Ketu itself, so

> here you have a planet in its own nakshatra.

>

> The natural characteristsics of Moola and

> Ketu are already discussed in hundreds of

> books, and I need not repeat these

> to a knowledgable person like you.

>

> What will ketu give this girl ?

>

> There are 9 Planets in a chart which indicate

> everything what a man does in his life,

> during his sojourn on the earth.

>

> In this particular chart, ketu will activate

> at least 6 planets in her chart . Notice

> there are 5 planets aspecting Ketu. Their

> effects will come in Life when Ketu dasha

> arrives. Then you have also to take into

> influence the effect of Jupiter who is the

> Raashi lord of Ketu. The effects of Jupiter

> whatever it shows in her chart, too will be

> experienced by the native when Ketu arrives.

> If You include Ketu also, then totally 7

> Planets will be included. So there would be

> a total make over or a Great shift and

> turnover in her Life, changes of great magnitude

> influencing almost all departments of her Life,

> during Ketu dasha.

>

> Rahu Chandra and Rahu Mars will both be very

> good periods for her.

> Rahu Mars in fact would be very beneficial for

> her, contrary to what we know about Rahu Mars in

> the general results .

> There is a strongchance of Love marriage to this

> girl, or Love cum arranged marriage.

>

> This chart is a very fortunate one, in terms of

> materialstic fulfillments.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta

> <vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> > My mistake.

> > It is 29th June 1983. Mumbai, India.

> > Place of Birth:Â Mumbai

> > Time : 00.20 am

> > Â

> > What is the effect of Ketu in Moola Nakshatra in General ? And what

> would it do for this girl

> > ( so that I can ask for some feedback ). She is normal to look at.

> > About Budh, I remember itÂ had negligible degree (I think 0).

> Horoscope did not have Bhava Chalit.

> > Â

> > Thanks & Regards

> > Â

> > Chiranjiv MehtaÂ

> >

> > --- On Mon, 19/1/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Kala Sarpa in real force

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Monday, 19 January, 2009, 10:35 PM

> >

> > Dear Chiranjivi ji,

> >

> > Thanks for the appreciation.

> >

> > But please give me the birth details, as in 1985 these combinations

as

> > mentioned by you, just cannot be possible at any rate.

> >

> > It appears to be 1983 but without spending much time I have got June

> > 28th 1983 to the nearest configurations menioned by You. Except that

> > Mercurry cannot be fitted here in Gemini. Rest all factors match.

> >

> > Please confirm. On what date to proceed.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta

> > <vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskarji,

> > > Please accept my standing ovation for such an indepth

> explanationÃ‚

> > in the last 2Ã‚ mails.

> > > I was expecting more add ons by other members; I think they will

> come

> > soon.

> > > In the meanwhile I got to see a horoscope on Sunday which has :

> > > Asc : Pisces

> > > 4th house : Rahu, Mangal, Budh & Sun.

> > > 5th house : Sukra

> > > 8th house :Ã‚ Tula RashiÃ‚ Sani ®

> > > 9th house : Jupiter ®

> > > 10th house : KETU, MOOLA NAKSHATRA, (SAG)

> > > 11th house : Chandra

> > > Ã‚

> > > I think born in 1985. Parents ( far relatives ) had sent for

> > prospective alliance.

> > > I want to know what effect this Ketu will give her. I personally

> > talked with her Dad and asked her what she does, just to cross check

> > with your observations.

> > > Please do not consider it a free reading. Let me know about the

> > effects of KETU in Moola Nakshatra.

> > > Ã‚

> > > Thanks & Regards

> > > Ã‚

> > > Chiranjiv

> > >

> > > --- On Sat, 17/1/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

> > >

> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Kala Sarpa in real force

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > Saturday, 17 January, 2009, 4:44 PM

> >

> > > Re-Joinder

> > > We were talking about Mula. Its nothing but the root , from where

> you

> > come. The ground from where the potato comes,

> > > from where the Mula ( White vegetable) comesÃ‚ .

> > > The origin - Mula nakshatra ruled by Ketu.Ã‚

> > > Ã‚

> > > But first we shall talk of the Muladhar chakra

> > > in very short. This chakra represents the Bhu-Loka or

> > > the physical plane.Ã‚ It is symbolised by 4 petals

> > > known as Vang,Shang,kshang, and Sang.

> > > for our sake kshang signifies the orhgans of generation

> > > and sex desire. Sang represents reproducrtion.

> > > the ruling planet as I said in my earlier mail, is Mars here.

> > > Which is why I said that without a averagely good Mars one

> > > cannot have a child or even proper sex.Ã‚ The vayu for

> > > this chakra is apan vayu, the air that expels the semen from

> > > the male organ, and also which pushes the child from the

> > > womb during birth.Ã‚ Mooladhar is the seat of the Kundalini

> > > Shakti.

> > > Ã‚

> > > From whence you came, thence you will go finally.

> > > We are the ansha of parmatma, and known as atma .

> > > Unless we raise ourselves to the level of opening the

> > > 1000 petals in the Sahasra Chakra we can never reach

> > > the Satyam LokaÃ‚ or Tejas Loka represented by Ketu.

> > > Ã‚

> > > Connection of the Kundalini with Sahasra Chakra.

> > > Ã‚

> > > When the Kundalini is raised upto the Sahasra Chakra, the illusion

> of

> > > " individual " self is dissolved. The Yogi becomes realized. He

> > encounters Kamadhenu the wish fulfilling cow within himself ( There

is

> > also a point in the Horoscope chart known as Kamadhenu point, but

> cannot

> > talk about itÃ‚ presently ).

> > > Ã‚

> > > The Mooladhara thus has the power to raise one to the mokshkaraka

> Ketu

> > if one is able to raise the Energy of Mars and channelise it to this

> > level.

> > > Ã‚

> > > The Mula nakshatra represented by Mula is nothing but the

> > significations of Ketu in this combination of Stars, which are our

> roots

> > from where we came, and where we will go, back to Godhead, someday

or

> > the other, some janma or the other. Ã‚

> > > Ã‚

> > > regards/bhaskar

> > > Ã‚

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Neelamji, Chiranjiviji and the others.

> > > > As usual I could only expect a beautiful post from you, which I

> feel

> > > > incompetent enough to supplement another, with the same fineese

> > which

> > > > you possess. You are extremely true to the word of what has been

> > > > written. Rahu and Ketu about which the Indians well know, since

> they

> > > > are little children,actually form the whole circuit of

activities

> in

> > > > this Life which we would be strung with, and Rahu Ketu ingrain

the

> > > > triggers of what has to be in a persons Life,through the various

> > > > sufferings, elations and experiences an individual would go

> through

> > all

> > > > his Life. I could write hundreds of pages on Rahu and Ketu, but

as

> > > > Chiranjiviji said and believes that Bhaskar does not like

> Esoteric,

> > I

> > > > will get to the point of what I feel must be mentioned at the

cost

> > of

> > > > repetition of common knowledge but yet uncommon to many seekers.

> The

> > > > Pointers in a Chart for the Chakras - Mooladhara chakra Location

-

> > In

> > > > base of spine between anus and genitials. The Ruling planet is

> Mars.

> > (

> > > > Without aggression of Mars one cannot procreate. Remember Mangal

> > dosha

> > > > in marriage ? ) Swadhisthan chakra Location - Hypo gastric

plexus

> > > > :genitials. The Ruling planet is Mercury Manipura Chakra

Location

> -

> > > > in spinal column exactly at the level of the navel. The Ruling

> > planet is

> > > > the Sun. Anahata Chakra Location - In vertebral column behind

the

> > > > base of the heart. The Ruling planet is Venus. Vishuddhi Chakra

> > > > Location - Throat pit. The Ruling planet is Jupiter. Agya/Ajna

> > Chakra

> > > > Location - Medulla plexus, point between eyebrows. The Ruling

> planet

> > is

> > > > Saturn. Sahasra Chakra Location - At top of the cranium,cerebal

> > > > plexus. The Ruling Planet is Ketu.( You know now why Ketu is

> called

> > > > Mokshakaraka ?) We can further expand on the above in areas of

> > > > descriptions of each chakra, their functions in the body,beej

> > mantras

> > > > for each, place, petals, Varna, Cosmic ray, Lok, Words for

petals,

> > > > Namtatva, tatva beej, Beejvahan, Guna, dev, Dev shakti, Yantra,

> > > > Gyanendriya, karmendriya, Dhyanphala, English name etc etc. But

> > where

> > > > is the planet Rahu in the above ? We shall answer that later..

In

> the

> > > > meanwhile one may check his planets in his chart and find out

> which

> > are

> > > > weak and debilitated and check the corresponding areas in his

body

> > > > represented by the Chakra of the particular planet .this will

give

> > you

> > > > an idea of which Chakras need cleansing in your body. You may

also

> > > > confirm by checking the planets in your chart ( if you know what

> > they

> > > > represent ). For instance the Sun is having Cosmic rays of red

> > colour in

> > > > the VIBGYOR. its element or panchamahabhoot is Fire . It causes

> > Tridosha

> > > > of pitta. its temperetaure is hot,Life giving. its quality is

> > rajasic

> > > > and force is energetic. Then again it rules the Solar or

Abdomonal

> > > > plexus ( Manipur Chakra) in the body. It is the significator of

> > Saman

> > > > vayu in the body. Its saptadhatu is Bone. The plane of disease

> > caused

> > > > due to the Red Cosmic colour would be spiritual ( Not easy to

> > treat).

> > > > The sensitive organ ruled would be the eyes. The subject of the

> > > > sensitive organ would be Form. The taste would be pungent. In

case

> > of

> > > > disease due to this chakra being afflicted the coulour of cosmic

> > rays to

> > > > be given to the patient would be of Orange or Green Cosmic rays.

> The

> > > > wave length would be 800-650 (Milli microns). it rules the

> Pranamaya

> > > > Kosha. There are hundreds of such matters above, to determine,

> check

> > > > and either eradicate or enforce, otherwise no meaning in

searching

> > for

> > > > the Chakras in the chart, which is why I am never interested in

> > writing

> > > > such matters which take up lots of time, and nobody can make

> > worthwhile

> > > > use of the same unless he is really interested in going deep..

Now

> > our

> > > > unasnwered question - Where is Rahu among the Chakras ? Rahu is

> > > > actually the cause of us being here. Which is why I always check

> the

> > > > House and sign where Rahu appears in a chart. There would the

> > > > rinabadhanas of that native lie, to be fulfilled in this janma.

> The

> > Lord

> > > > of the Raashi where Rahu appears signifies cerytain people with

> whom

> > > > your rinabandhanas have to be completed with. The activities in

> > which

> > > > the house in the chart which is represneted by Rahu, will be

those

> > > > activities where your loyalties must be true , in this janma ,

to

> > clear

> > > > the deficit. For instance Rahu in Leo. The Lord of this sign is

> The

> > Sun.

> > > > The Sun represents father and father figures in the family. Your

> > duties

> > > > and loyalties lie in this janma towards them, and it would be no

> > easy

> > > > ropewalk to meet these, coz these same people with whom you are

> > expected

> > > > to fulfill your duties would create trouble to you and not allow

> you

> > to

> > > > settle the past karmas. Rahu suppose in 7th house, then a

persons

> > > > loyalties this janmalies with his wife. he has to make her happy

> at

> > any

> > > > cost even if it means being having to be bludgeoned daily by the

> > lady.

> > > > Rahu isi the cause of creation for us. Ketu is the target to

> achieve

> > > > and get out Rahu is the gateway to this earth ( The serpents

Mouth

> )

> > > > and till we remain on Earth, ie.within the serpent, its Maya all

> > around,

> > > > and once having gone through the tail which is ketu, you can

enter

> > the

> > > > Satyam Loka of the Sahasra Chakra when all the 1000 Petals of

the

> > Lotus

> > > > would be opened and you would be one with the Whole. This you

will

> > not

> > > > find written in any book for its my own realisation and there

are

> > many

> > > > such secrets of astrology which are yet to be told, and will not

> be

> > > > learnt through any software but only through self experience..

> Check

> > > > out Your Rahus - Where are they in the chart. Which people they

> > > > represent. Which houses they appear. Which activities they

> represent

> > in

> > > > your Life. You will be shockedat what you find. the truth.

Forget

> > > > looking for Chakra sin the charts. we are not that adept. look

out

> > for

> > > > Rahu. pacify it. Till you are not able to pacify you will remain

> in

> > the

> > > > serpents body ( maya ). Once you do it, Then seek for Ketu.

> regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta

> > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > *Astrological Exploration of the Mula (ROOT) Point *

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, Bohra ji, Pradeep ji and group,

> > > > >

> > > > > With the two ongoing discussions, I am encouraged to share my

> > views on

> > > > the

> > > > > astrological connection of Mula and Muladhar (as being

discussed

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > other thread by Bohraji and Pradeep ji) with the R/K and kaal

> sarp

> > as

> > > > being

> > > > > discussed in this thread.

> > > > >

> > > > > Astrologically, this subject of 'mula' or root has a deep

import

> > and a

> > > > chart

> > > > > may unfold some significant details when we observe or read it

> > from

> > > > this

> > > > > angle. It can throw light on the different manifestations at

all

> > > > levels of a

> > > > > being Ã¢â‚¬ " physical, mental and spiritual. What is the

> > astrological

> > > > > significance of three mula points of transmutation and the

'one

> > actual

> > > > mula'

> > > > > in any chart? Are they really to be dreaded? Are planets

really

> > weak

> > > > when

> > > > > posited at these points? If so, why and when?

> > > > >

> > > > > How can we read kaal-sarp in the 'root' (mula) light. What is

> the

> > > > > significance of ketu's position in a chart. What does this

moksh

> > karak

> > > > > really do? Does it really give moksh or shows us the path to

> > evolve to

> > > > > higher state of being? Why does ketu inflict physical

hardships

> > and

> > > > mental

> > > > > worries? How other planets align themselves with this primary

> > point?

> > > > >

> > > > > All these answers come from understanding the principle of

Mula

> as

> > in

> > > > > tantra. Once understood, the horoscope will reveal many

> different

> > > > aspects of

> > > > > the personality. For certain significations, we can directly

> > co-relate

> > > > with

> > > > > the yogic body, but for some we have to look for deeper

esoteric

> > > > meanings.

> > > > > e.g a native having serious affliction to jyeshtha/mula

sandhi,

> > might

> > > > suffer

> > > > > injuries/diseases in the area represented by this, but there

is

> > also

> > > > another

> > > > > impact which is at psychic level and another one which pushes

> him

> > on

> > > > the

> > > > > spiritual levels.

> > > > >

> > > > > I think if we catch the Muladhar point in the chart we may see

> > where

> > > > we

> > > > > stand in PMS plane. Some pointers can be:

> > > > >

> > > > > Muladhar is the basic, fundamental chakra from where human

> beings

> > > > commence

> > > > > their evolution which passes through the 7 main chakras and

> > sahasrara

> > > > is

> > > > > where our evolution is completed. Why man sits upright at this

> > stage

> > > > of

> > > > > evolution?

> > > > >

> > > > > Animals have seven inferior chakras called atala, vitala,

> sutala,

> > > > talatala,

> > > > > rasatala, mahatala and the lowest is patala and nadis are

> situated

> > in

> > > > their

> > > > > legs which flow to their confluence point at muladhar chakra

> just

> > as

> > > > the

> > > > > nadis in our body flow to ajna chakra. Just as muladhara is

the

> > lowest

> > > > > chakra in the human body, patala is the lowest in the animal

> > kingdom

> > > > and it

> > > > > represents total darkness, where nature is not functioning and

> > matter

> > > > is

> > > > > completely dormant and static. Chakras above sahasrara

represent

> > the

> > > > higher

> > > > > divine conciousness. Sahasrara is the highest in human

evolution

> > and

> > > > the

> > > > > first step in the highest divine evolution. How are the Lokas

> and

> > the

> > > > life

> > > > > within these lokas described in the shastras. Don't we see the

> > > > behavioural

> > > > > pattern and psychology of a person unfolding here?

> > > > >

> > > > > Kundalini is the shakti said to control every affair of life.

> When

> > it

> > > > passes

> > > > > through the animal stages of evolution, it influences the

whole

> > > > species with

> > > > > avidya or ignorance and the animal kingdom is compelled to

> follow

> > the

> > > > > tamasic phase of eating, sleeping, fearing and mating. From

> > muladhara

> > > > onward

> > > > > we pass through the rajasic phase and from sahasrara onward we

> > enter

> > > > the

> > > > > sattvic. Upto muladhar, evolution is automatic. Prakriti

> controls

> > them

> > > > > completely and benevolently, as they don't think and have no

> power

> > of

> > > > > realisation. Can we relate these with actual manifestations in

a

> > > > native?

> > > > >

> > > > > Once kundalini or primordial shakti, reaches muladhara,

> evolution

> > is

> > > > no

> > > > > longer spontaneous as man finds awareness of time and space,

and

> > he

> > > > gets an

> > > > > ego. He has a higher consciousness and he has to work towards

> his

> > > > evolution.

> > > > > That is why it is said that kundalini is sleeping in muladhara

> > chakra

> > > > and

> > > > > for further progress beyond this point it has to be pushed.

> Within

> > > > their

> > > > > range of chakras, all individuals within the species are at

> > different

> > > > levels

> > > > > on the scale of evolution due to their progress in previous

> lives,

> > or

> > > > the

> > > > > sadhana and sanskars. e.g someone might have kundalini in

> anahata

> > at

> > > > birth,

> > > > > and its ascension should start from there. But we can't

remember

> > our

> > > > > previous lives, so we also forget about the state and level of

> the

> > our

> > > > > kundalini. Can't we try and locate this point of evolution in

> the

> > > > chart?

> > > > >

> > > > > People born with awakened chakras and kundalini appear to be

are

> > > > superior

> > > > > people in different aspects of life, depending upon the level

of

> > > > > achievement. They may be great musicians, artists, scientists,

> > > > research

> > > > > scholars, inventors, prophets, statesmen, etc. Children born

> with

> > > > higher

> > > > > shakti may show different manifestations as they grow up.

> However,

> > our

> > > > > materialistic societies consider these manifestations as

> abnormal

> > and

> > > > those

> > > > > who display them are subjected to psychoanalysis and

> psychological

> > > > scrutiny

> > > > > and treatment. How do we see this in the horoscope? Is R/K

axis

> a

> > > > pointer to

> > > > > this development?

> > > > >

> > > > > The ultimate purpose of this shakti is to ascend through all

the

> > > > chakras and

> > > > > to awaken them and their related parts of the brain. Aren't

> these

> > > > changes

> > > > > significantly relevant to with our day to day life. At the

> mental

> > > > level, it

> > > > > will relate to our emotional make up. Our love and hatred, our

> > > > relationships

> > > > > with people, they are the consequences of the quality of our

> > present

> > > > mind.

> > > > > Our sufferings, agonies and frustrations are not so much due

to

> > the

> > > > > circumstances of life, but more to the responses of our mind.

> The

> > > > higher

> > > > > qualities of a man, such as love, compassion, charity, mercy,

> etc.

> > are

> > > > the

> > > > > expressions of a mind which is influenced by awakened

> > conciousness. Is

> > > > > Kaal-sarp yog pointing to these developments in a soul?

> > > > >

> > > > > In essence, the concept of muladhara is understood as moola

> > prakriti,

> > > > the

> > > > > transcendental basis of physical nature. The whole universe

and

> > all

> > > > its

> > > > > objects must have some basis from which they evolve and to

which

> > they

> > > > return

> > > > > after dissolution. The original source of all evolution is

mula

> > > > prakriti.

> > > > > Muladhara, as the basis of mula prakriti, is responsible for

> > > > everything that

> > > > > manifests in the world of name and form. And that everything

> > should be

> > > > > visible in the horoscope if observed from this 'root' angle.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Neelam

> > > > >

> > > >

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January 21, 2009

Dear Bhaskarji,

Hope your Father recovers fast.

There was typo. I meant that " What willÂ Ketu do in its own nakshatra ? Usually

it is supposed to signify loss. Will it do its normal job ( of creating loss )

in the 10th house ? or will that result be altered due to the fact it is Moola

Nakshatra ? "

Thanks & Regards

Â

Chiranjiv Mehta

--- On Wed, 21/1/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

Re: Kala Sarpa in real force

Wednesday, 21 January, 2009, 1:59 AM

Dear Chiranjiv ji,

// I want to know what Ketu will do when it is in own chart ? and it is

supposed to have " Sthanbala " . Is it therefore misplaced in Karma house.

Pls explain //

You will have to explain me, what is meant by the above. I am nt able to

understand.

I will get back on Ketus effects, little later. I have my father not

keeping good health. I can only talk on specifics now, and not on

any genreal topics.

regards,

Bhaskar.

January 21, 2009

Dear Chiranjiviji,

The nodes or any planets in nakshatras can only show Gunas, what they

have been transformed in. For instance saturn acquires good guna in

nakshatras of Ketu, Jupiter and mercury while bad Gunas in constellation

of Sun and Moon and venus. In nakshatra of mars, its thoroughly bad. In

nakshatra of rahu it will give bad results first and good results

afterwards. Now this is as per Guna principles.

For predictive principles, the story is quite different.

Ketu as you know in 12th can also be a mokshkaraka. ketu in lagna can

make a man spirtually inclined. ketu in 6th may give fear of wrong

medicine administered but also good results. So ketu can give good and

bad results both, dependingon various factors and cannot be called

either completely good or completely ba, just like any other planet.

the Moola nakshatra has the quality of deep going, reaching to the

bottom, to the roots. But ketu depending on the placement may be placed

anywhere. If it signifies matters related to studies, then it will show

the person going into deep study trying to get to the logic of what he

is studying rather than parrot learning. If it signifies gambling, then

it will make the person experience all the tricks of the trade and

experience in gambling through cards,horse races, lottery or whatever,

and make him very knowledgable in same.

But as I said the above is just quality. What about predictions ?

This wll come only through the Raashi lord where Ketu is placed, the

nakshatra Lord where Ketu is placed. the planets aspecting ketu and

ketus own placement . ( This same principle to be applied to rahu also

).

In this case Ketu shows a breakthrough in Profession and some

attainment to the girl.

Remember that the Nodes by themselves will show their own qualities only

when unaspected or uninfluenced. But when influenced, then other planets

take over and modify the results thus represented.

Ketu in own Nakshatra or placed in 10th will not be bad, because it

represents the 10th house. But if influenced by planet signifying the

8th, then loss in profession, but if influenced by planets signifying

2nd and 11th, then gains in profession. Treat Rahu and Ketu as pure

water. One can mix concentrate of rose sharbat and make it sweet, while

one can mix Phenol and make it a disinfectant.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, chiranjiv mehta

<vchiranjiv wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji,

> Hope your Father recovers fast.

> There was typo. I meant that " What willÂ Ketu do in its own

nakshatra ? Usually it is supposed to signify loss. Will it do its

normal job ( of creating loss ) in the 10th house ? or will that result

be altered due to the fact it is Moola Nakshatra ? "

>

> Thanks & Regards

> Â

> Chiranjiv Mehta

> --- On Wed, 21/1/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

> Re: Kala Sarpa in real force

>

> Wednesday, 21 January, 2009, 1:59 AM

>

> Dear Chiranjiv ji,

>

> // I want to know what Ketu will do when it is in own chart ? and it

is

> supposed to have " Sthanbala " . Is it therefore misplaced in Karma

house.

> Pls explain //

>

> You will have to explain me, what is meant by the above. I am nt able

to

> understand.

>

> I will get back on Ketus effects, little later. I have my father not

> keeping good health. I can only talk on specifics now, and not on

> any genreal topics.

>

> regards,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

January 22, 2009

Respected Bhaskar Ji and other gurus ,

Namaskar,

I am a student of Astrology.

I believe Kala Sarpa yoga gives effects in jatak’s life.

I think this is an extended form of “Papa Katri”

yoga.

And maybe in ancient time it was not appeared because people

are not so materialistic and don’t do sins of quality.

And maybe Shri K. N. Rao denies this yoga because he wants to

save peoples from greedy astrologers.

Thanks,

Vikas

January 22, 2009

Dear Bhaskarji,

Thank you for your indepth explanation.

Thanks & Regards

Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Wed, 21/1/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Kala Sarpa in real force Date: Wednesday, 21 January, 2009, 5:40 PM

Dear Chiranjiviji,The nodes or any planets in nakshatras can only show Gunas, what theyhave been transformed in. For instance saturn acquires good guna innakshatras of Ketu, Jupiter and mercury while bad Gunas in constellationof Sun and Moon and venus. In nakshatra of mars, its thoroughly bad. Innakshatra of rahu it will give bad results first and good resultsafterwards. Now this is as per Guna principles.For predictive principles, the story is quite different.Ketu as you know in 12th can also be a mokshkaraka. ketu in lagna canmake a man spirtually inclined. ketu in 6th may give fear of wrongmedicine administered but also good results. So ketu can give good andbad results both, dependingon various factors and cannot be calledeither completely good or completely ba, just like any other planet.the Moola nakshatra has the quality of deep going, reaching to thebottom, to the

roots. But ketu depending on the placement may be placedanywhere. If it signifies matters related to studies, then it will showthe person going into deep study trying to get to the logic of what heis studying rather than parrot learning. If it signifies gambling, thenit will make the person experience all the tricks of the trade andexperience in gambling through cards,horse races, lottery or whatever,and make him very knowledgable in same.But as I said the above is just quality. What about predictions ?This wll come only through the Raashi lord where Ketu is placed, thenakshatra Lord where Ketu is placed. the planets aspecting ketu andketus own placement . ( This same principle to be applied to rahu also).In this case Ketu shows a breakthrough in Profession and someattainment to the girl.Remember that the Nodes by themselves will show their own qualities onlywhen unaspected or

uninfluenced. But when influenced, then other planetstake over and modify the results thus represented.Ketu in own Nakshatra or placed in 10th will not be bad, because itrepresents the 10th house. But if influenced by planet signifying the8th, then loss in profession, but if influenced by planets signifying2nd and 11th, then gains in profession. Treat Rahu and Ketu as purewater. One can mix concentrate of rose sharbat and make it sweet, whileone can mix Phenol and make it a disinfectant.regards,Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta<vchiranjiv@ ....> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji,> Hope your Father recovers fast.> There was typo. I meant that "What willÃ‚ Ketu do in its ownnakshatra ? Usually it is supposed to signify loss. Will it do

itsnormal job ( of creating loss ) in the 10th house ? or will that resultbe altered due to the fact it is Moola Nakshatra ? ">> Thanks & Regards> Ã‚> Chiranjiv Mehta> --- On Wed, 21/1/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:>> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Kala Sarpa in real force> ancient_indian_ astrology> Wednesday, 21 January, 2009, 1:59 AM>> Dear Chiranjiv ji,>> // I want to know what Ketu will do when it is in own chart ? and itis> supposed to have " Sthanbala". Is it therefore misplaced in Karmahouse.> Pls explain //>> You will have to explain me, what is meant by the above. I am nt ableto> understand.>> I will get

back on Ketus effects, little later. I have my father not> keeping good health. I can only talk on specifics now, and not on> any genreal topics.>> regards,>> Bhaskar.>

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Dear Bhaskar ji,

ketu in vrishabha, guru in leo, kuja and chandra in kanya, ravi,shani and budha

in thula, shukra and rahu in vrishchika, lagna in aries. You see, except a 4th

house aspect guru casts on vrishchika, ( if that is of any consequence since

guru aspects, 5th, 7th and 9th houses) none of the other planets actually aspect

each other.

Incidentally, I read in an article on the net that people with kala sarpa yoga

are reincarnations of children who were sacrificed at the altar of the gods at

the age of 12 during medieval times. The children, I believe were made aware of

the fact right from early childhood that they will be sacrificed when the time

came for the betterment of the community and this got ingrained in their psyche

so deeply that they carried forward this feeling of having to sacrifice

themselves in their future reincarnations too. I know atleast 6 people with this

kala sarpa yoga and surprise of surprises, they all have a need to throw

themselves heart and soul in to one thing or the other. It may be a cause, a

political one, social one, personal one, but they do sort of " go all out over " ,

you know sort of " die for " , sort of " kill themselves over " , " go overboard " with

something or the other, does not matter what. It may be a ordinary cause or a

lofty one.

Perhaps we should do a survey about this.

Regards,

Anita

--- On Wed, 21/1/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

Re: Kala Sarpa in real force

Wednesday, 21 January, 2009, 8:13 AM

Dear Anita ji,

One with good intelligence cannot exactly even explain why he is having

a headache, or why he is unhappy in Life, which requires no technical

education, the how can astrologers be expected to answer every query

coming out of the blue, with satisfaction ? Thats just not possible.

There is a limit to knowledge acquired by humans, and even more limit to

a individuals acquired knowledge.

But please give me a example of the chart configurations given by you,

with a date of birth, time of birth and the place of birth. Lt us talk

on facts and figures and see if we arrive at some conclusion and

consensus.

regards,

Bhaskar.

ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R <ash.rsh55@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Respected Bhaskar ji,

> this is a question which none of the astrologers have been able to

satisfactorily answer. When a person has a kalasarpa yoga and if you

exclude rahu and ketu and find that none of the 7 planets actually

aspect each other, being in 4 consecutive houses, what impact would it

have on the person? what would be the implications of this arrangement

of planets.?

> Thanking you,

> With regards,

> Anita

January 22, 2009

Hi,There is also a view that kala sarpa maginifies and amplifies all the other yogas in the chart. good as well as bad so that the person appears to be star crossed having very good things on one side and bad things on the other. another view is that the person rises to the top of his / her career and then it suddenly ends. Either in the end of the career or it ends in the death of the person.Regards,Anita--- On Wed, 21/1/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re:Kala Sarpa in real force Date: Wednesday, 21 January, 2009, 8:55 AM

Dear Mohitji,

But i feel perhaps you are also a believer in the myth that kala Sarpa

Yoga is just evil, which is in fact is not completely true.

Talking in crude language do all Dogs bite and only harmful ? Dont they

also serve faithfully as pets to their masters ? What about snakes ? Are

they not useful with their posions and elimination of certain rodents ?

Dont the snake charmers earn from snakes ?

Kala Sarpa though evil in nature but eventually has produced the

greatest of successful men in history too, if we make a study on the

same.

i have already proved the existence of this Yoga and what is written in

the texts in one of my previous mails. The term may have been coined

later on as " Kala sarpa Yoga ' but this combination of rahu Ketu axis

has been well explained in the texts.

regards,

bhaskar.

ancient_indian_ astrology, Mohit Virmani

<mohitvirmani33@ ...> wrote:

>

> Hello ,

>

> I agree wit u anita g well no one has come to satifactory

answer on Kal Sarpa Yoga well as K.N Rao says there is none and nothing

written about it as (I agree wit me ) well gone through lot of Kal Sapra

Yoga well as they say Kal Sarpa Yoga gives immese problem in life well

not neccesaary tht people who dont have Kal Sarpa Ypga dont go through

problem in life as for example my Father has so called Kal Sarpa Yoga

and rised in Rahu Dasha travelled first class and all over India His

details r Karan Virmani Date:19.08.1947 time is 11.05.00 Am place is

Dehra Dun , Thank Mohit

>

> --- On Wed, 1/21/09, Anita R ash.rsh55@.. . wrote:

>

> Anita R ash.rsh55@.. .

> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Kala Sarpa in real force

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 6:26 AM

>

Respected Bhaskar ji,

> this is a question which none of the astrologers have been able to

satisfactorily answer. When a person has a kalasarpa yoga and if you

exclude rahu and ketu and find that none of the 7 planets actually

aspect each other, being in 4 consecutive houses, what impact would it

have on the person? what would be the implications of this arrangement

of planets.?

> Thanking you,

> With regards,

> Anita

> --- On Tue, 20/1/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Kala Sarpa in real force

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Tuesday, 20 January, 2009, 11:53 AM

>

> Dear Chiranjivi,

>

> Moola nakshatra is owned by Ketu itself, so

> here you have a planet in its own nakshatra.

>

> The natural characteristsics of Moola and

> Ketu are already discussed in hundreds of

> books, and I need not repeat these

> to a knowledgable person like you.

>

> What will ketu give this girl ?

>

> There are 9 Planets in a chart which indicate

> everything what a man does in his life,

> during his sojourn on the earth.

>

> In this particular chart, ketu will activate

> at least 6 planets in her chart . Notice

> there are 5 planets aspecting Ketu. Their

> effects will come in Life when Ketu dasha

> arrives. Then you have also to take into

> influence the effect of Jupiter who is the

> Raashi lord of Ketu. The effects of Jupiter

> whatever it shows in her chart, too will be

> experienced by the native when Ketu arrives.

> If You include Ketu also, then totally 7

> Planets will be included. So there would be

> a total make over or a Great shift and

> turnover in her Life, changes of great magnitude

> influencing almost all departments of her Life,

> during Ketu dasha.

>

> Rahu Chandra and Rahu Mars will both be very

> good periods for her.

> Rahu Mars in fact would be very beneficial for

> her, contrary to what we know about Rahu Mars in

> the general results .

> There is a strongchance of Love marriage to this

> girl, or Love cum arranged marriage.

>

> This chart is a very fortunate one, in terms of

> materialstic fulfillments.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta

> <vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> > My mistake.

> > It is 29th June 1983. Mumbai, India.

> > Place of Birth:Ã‚ Mumbai

> > Time : 00.20 am

> > Ã‚

> > What is the effect of Ketu in Moola Nakshatra in General ? And what

> would it do for this girl

> > ( so that I can ask for some feedback ). She is normal to look at..

> > About Budh, I remember itÃ‚ had negligible degree (I think 0)..

> Horoscope did not have Bhava Chalit.

> > Ã‚

> > Thanks & Regards

> > Ã‚

> > Chiranjiv MehtaÃ‚

> >

> > --- On Mon, 19/1/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Kala Sarpa in real force

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Monday, 19 January, 2009, 10:35 PM

> >

> > Dear Chiranjivi ji,

> >

> > Thanks for the appreciation.

> >

> > But please give me the birth details, as in 1985 these combinations

as

> > mentioned by you, just cannot be possible at any rate.

> >

> > It appears to be 1983 but without spending much time I have got June

> > 28th 1983 to the nearest configurations menioned by You. Except that

> > Mercurry cannot be fitted here in Gemini. Rest all factors match.

> >

> > Please confirm. On what date to proceed.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta

> > <vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskarji,

> > > Please accept my standing ovation for such an indepth

> explanationÃƒâ€š

> > in the last 2Ãƒâ€š mails.

> > > I was expecting more add ons by other members; I think they will

> come

> > soon.

> > > In the meanwhile I got to see a horoscope on Sunday which has :

> > > Asc : Pisces

> > > 4th house : Rahu, Mangal, Budh & Sun.

> > > 5th house : Sukra

> > > 8th house :Ãƒâ€š Tula RashiÃƒâ€š Sani ®

> > > 9th house : Jupiter ®

> > > 10th house : KETU, MOOLA NAKSHATRA, (SAG)

> > > 11th house : Chandra

> > > Ãƒâ€š

> > > I think born in 1985. Parents ( far relatives ) had sent for

> > prospective alliance.

> > > I want to know what effect this Ketu will give her. I personally

> > talked with her Dad and asked her what she does, just to cross check

> > with your observations.

> > > Please do not consider it a free reading. Let me know about the

> > effects of KETU in Moola Nakshatra.

> > > Ãƒâ€š

> > > Thanks & Regards

> > > Ãƒâ€š

> > > Chiranjiv

> > >

> > > --- On Sat, 17/1/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

> > >

> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Kala Sarpa in real force

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > Saturday, 17 January, 2009, 4:44 PM

> >

> > > Re-Joinder

> > > We were talking about Mula. Its nothing but the root , from where

> you

> > come. The ground from where the potato comes,

> > > from where the Mula ( White vegetable) comesÃƒâ€š ..

> > > The origin - Mula nakshatra ruled by Ketu.Ãƒâ€š

> > > Ãƒâ€š

> > > But first we shall talk of the Muladhar chakra

> > > in very short. This chakra represents the Bhu-Loka or

> > > the physical plane.Ãƒâ€š It is symbolised by 4 petals

> > > known as Vang,Shang,kshang, and Sang.

> > > for our sake kshang signifies the orhgans of generation

> > > and sex desire. Sang represents reproducrtion.

> > > the ruling planet as I said in my earlier mail, is Mars here..

> > > Which is why I said that without a averagely good Mars one

> > > cannot have a child or even proper sex.Ãƒâ€š The vayu for

> > > this chakra is apan vayu, the air that expels the semen from

> > > the male organ, and also which pushes the child from the

> > > womb during birth.Ãƒâ€š Mooladhar is the seat of the Kundalini

> > > Shakti.

> > > Ãƒâ€š

> > > From whence you came, thence you will go finally.

> > > We are the ansha of parmatma, and known as atma .

> > > Unless we raise ourselves to the level of opening the

> > > 1000 petals in the Sahasra Chakra we can never reach

> > > the Satyam LokaÃƒâ€š or Tejas Loka represented by Ketu.

> > > Ãƒâ€š

> > > Connection of the Kundalini with Sahasra Chakra.

> > > Ãƒâ€š

> > > When the Kundalini is raised upto the Sahasra Chakra, the illusion

> of

> > > "individual" self is dissolved. The Yogi becomes realized. He

> > encounters Kamadhenu the wish fulfilling cow within himself ( There

is

> > also a point in the Horoscope chart known as Kamadhenu point, but

> cannot

> > talk about itÃƒâ€š presently ).

> > > Ãƒâ€š

> > > The Mooladhara thus has the power to raise one to the mokshkaraka

> Ketu

> > if one is able to raise the Energy of Mars and channelise it to this

> > level.

> > > Ãƒâ€š

> > > The Mula nakshatra represented by Mula is nothing but the

> > significations of Ketu in this combination of Stars, which are our

> roots

> > from where we came, and where we will go, back to Godhead, someday

or

> > the other, some janma or the other. Ãƒâ€š

> > > Ãƒâ€š

> > > regards/bhaskar

> > > Ãƒâ€š

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Neelamji, Chiranjiviji and the others.

> > > > As usual I could only expect a beautiful post from you, which I

> feel

> > > > incompetent enough to supplement another, with the same fineese

> > which

> > > > you possess. You are extremely true to the word of what has been

> > > > written. Rahu and Ketu about which the Indians well know, since

> they

> > > > are little children,actually form the whole circuit of

activities

> in

> > > > this Life which we would be strung with, and Rahu Ketu ingrain

the

> > > > triggers of what has to be in a persons Life,through the various

> > > > sufferings, elations and experiences an individual would go

> through

> > all

> > > > his Life. I could write hundreds of pages on Rahu and Ketu, but

as

> > > > Chiranjiviji said and believes that Bhaskar does not like

> Esoteric,

> > I

> > > > will get to the point of what I feel must be mentioned at the

cost

> > of

> > > > repetition of common knowledge but yet uncommon to many seekers.

> The

> > > > Pointers in a Chart for the Chakras - Mooladhara chakra Location

-

> > In

> > > > base of spine between anus and genitials. The Ruling planet is

> Mars.

> > (

> > > > Without aggression of Mars one cannot procreate. Remember Mangal

> > dosha

> > > > in marriage ? ) Swadhisthan chakra Location - Hypo gastric

plexus

> > > > :genitials. The Ruling planet is Mercury Manipura Chakra

Location

> -

> > > > in spinal column exactly at the level of the navel. The Ruling

> > planet is

> > > > the Sun. Anahata Chakra Location - In vertebral column behind

the

> > > > base of the heart. The Ruling planet is Venus. Vishuddhi Chakra

> > > > Location - Throat pit. The Ruling planet is Jupiter. Agya/Ajna

> > Chakra

> > > > Location - Medulla plexus, point between eyebrows. The Ruling

> planet

> > is

> > > > Saturn. Sahasra Chakra Location - At top of the cranium,cerebal

> > > > plexus. The Ruling Planet is Ketu.( You know now why Ketu is

> called

> > > > Mokshakaraka ?) We can further expand on the above in areas of

> > > > descriptions of each chakra, their functions in the body,beej

> > mantras

> > > > for each, place, petals, Varna, Cosmic ray, Lok, Words for

petals,

> > > > Namtatva, tatva beej, Beejvahan, Guna, dev, Dev shakti, Yantra,

> > > > Gyanendriya, karmendriya, Dhyanphala, English name etc etc. But

> > where

> > > > is the planet Rahu in the above ? We shall answer that later..

In

> the

> > > > meanwhile one may check his planets in his chart and find out

> which

> > are

> > > > weak and debilitated and check the corresponding areas in his

body

> > > > represented by the Chakra of the particular planet .this will

give

> > you

> > > > an idea of which Chakras need cleansing in your body. You may

also

> > > > confirm by checking the planets in your chart ( if you know what

> > they

> > > > represent ). For instance the Sun is having Cosmic rays of red

> > colour in

> > > > the VIBGYOR. its element or panchamahabhoot is Fire . It causes

> > Tridosha

> > > > of pitta. its temperetaure is hot,Life giving. its quality is

> > rajasic

> > > > and force is energetic. Then again it rules the Solar or

Abdomonal

> > > > plexus ( Manipur Chakra) in the body. It is the significator of

> > Saman

> > > > vayu in the body. Its saptadhatu is Bone. The plane of disease

> > caused

> > > > due to the Red Cosmic colour would be spiritual ( Not easy to

> > treat).

> > > > The sensitive organ ruled would be the eyes. The subject of the

> > > > sensitive organ would be Form. The taste would be pungent. In

case

> > of

> > > > disease due to this chakra being afflicted the coulour of cosmic

> > rays to

> > > > be given to the patient would be of Orange or Green Cosmic rays.

> The

> > > > wave length would be 800-650 (Milli microns). it rules the

> Pranamaya

> > > > Kosha. There are hundreds of such matters above, to determine,

> check

> > > > and either eradicate or enforce, otherwise no meaning in

searching

> > for

> > > > the Chakras in the chart, which is why I am never interested in

> > writing

> > > > such matters which take up lots of time, and nobody can make

> > worthwhile

> > > > use of the same unless he is really interested in going deep..

Now

> > our

> > > > unasnwered question - Where is Rahu among the Chakras ? Rahu is

> > > > actually the cause of us being here. Which is why I always check

> the

> > > > House and sign where Rahu appears in a chart. There would the

> > > > rinabadhanas of that native lie, to be fulfilled in this janma.

> The

> > Lord

> > > > of the Raashi where Rahu appears signifies cerytain people with

> whom

> > > > your rinabandhanas have to be completed with. The activities in

> > which

> > > > the house in the chart which is represneted by Rahu, will be

those

> > > > activities where your loyalties must be true , in this janma ,

to

> > clear

> > > > the deficit. For instance Rahu in Leo. The Lord of this sign is

> The

> > Sun.

> > > > The Sun represents father and father figures in the family. Your

> > duties

> > > > and loyalties lie in this janma towards them, and it would be no

> > easy

> > > > ropewalk to meet these, coz these same people with whom you are

> > expected

> > > > to fulfill your duties would create trouble to you and not allow

> you

> > to

> > > > settle the past karmas. Rahu suppose in 7th house, then a

persons

> > > > loyalties this janmalies with his wife. he has to make her happy

> at

> > any

> > > > cost even if it means being having to be bludgeoned daily by the

> > lady.

> > > > Rahu isi the cause of creation for us. Ketu is the target to

> achieve

> > > > and get out Rahu is the gateway to this earth ( The serpents

Mouth

> )

> > > > and till we remain on Earth, ie.within the serpent, its Maya all

> > around,

> > > > and once having gone through the tail which is ketu, you can

enter

> > the

> > > > Satyam Loka of the Sahasra Chakra when all the 1000 Petals of

the

> > Lotus

> > > > would be opened and you would be one with the Whole. This you

will

> > not

> > > > find written in any book for its my own realisation and there

are

> > many

> > > > such secrets of astrology which are yet to be told, and will not

> be

> > > > learnt through any software but only through self experience..

> Check

> > > > out Your Rahus - Where are they in the chart. Which people they

> > > > represent. Which houses they appear. Which activities they

> represent

> > in

> > > > your Life. You will be shockedat what you find. the truth.

Forget

> > > > looking for Chakra sin the charts. we are not that adept. look

out

> > for

> > > > Rahu. pacify it. Till you are not able to pacify you will remain

> in

> > the

> > > > serpents body ( maya ). Once you do it, Then seek for Ketu.

> regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta

> > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > *Astrological Exploration of the Mula (ROOT) Point *

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, Bohra ji, Pradeep ji and group,

> > > > >

> > > > > With the two ongoing discussions, I am encouraged to share my

> > views on

> > > > the

> > > > > astrological connection of Mula and Muladhar (as being

discussed

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > other thread by Bohraji and Pradeep ji) with the R/K and kaal

> sarp

> > as

> > > > being

> > > > > discussed in this thread.

> > > > >

> > > > > Astrologically, this subject of 'mula' or root has a deep

import

> > and a

> > > > chart

> > > > > may unfold some significant details when we observe or read it

> > from

> > > > this

> > > > > angle. It can throw light on the different manifestations at

all

> > > > levels of a

> > > > > being ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬" physical, mental and spiritual. What is the

> > astrological

> > > > > significance of three mula points of transmutation and the

'one

> > actual

> > > > mula'

> > > > > in any chart? Are they really to be dreaded? Are planets

really

> > weak

> > > > when

> > > > > posited at these points? If so, why and when?

> > > > >

> > > > > How can we read kaal-sarp in the 'root' (mula) light. What is

> the

> > > > > significance of ketu's position in a chart. What does this

moksh

> > karak

> > > > > really do? Does it really give moksh or shows us the path to

> > evolve to

> > > > > higher state of being? Why does ketu inflict physical

hardships

> > and

> > > > mental

> > > > > worries? How other planets align themselves with this primary

> > point?

> > > > >

> > > > > All these answers come from understanding the principle of

Mula

> as

> > in

> > > > > tantra. Once understood, the horoscope will reveal many

> different

> > > > aspects of

> > > > > the personality. For certain significations, we can directly

> > co-relate

> > > > with

> > > > > the yogic body, but for some we have to look for deeper

esoteric

> > > > meanings.

> > > > > e.g a native having serious affliction to jyeshtha/mula

sandhi,

> > might

> > > > suffer

> > > > > injuries/diseases in the area represented by this, but there

is

> > also

> > > > another

> > > > > impact which is at psychic level and another one which pushes

> him

> > on

> > > > the

> > > > > spiritual levels.

> > > > >

> > > > > I think if we catch the Muladhar point in the chart we may see

> > where

> > > > we

> > > > > stand in PMS plane. Some pointers can be:

> > > > >

> > > > > Muladhar is the basic, fundamental chakra from where human

> beings

> > > > commence

> > > > > their evolution which passes through the 7 main chakras and

> > sahasrara

> > > > is

> > > > > where our evolution is completed. Why man sits upright at this

> > stage

> > > > of

> > > > > evolution?

> > > > >

> > > > > Animals have seven inferior chakras called atala, vitala,

> sutala,

> > > > talatala,

> > > > > rasatala, mahatala and the lowest is patala and nadis are

> situated

> > in

> > > > their

> > > > > legs which flow to their confluence point at muladhar chakra

> just

> > as

> > > > the

> > > > > nadis in our body flow to ajna chakra. Just as muladhara is

the

> > lowest

> > > > > chakra in the human body, patala is the lowest in the animal

> > kingdom

> > > > and it

> > > > > represents total darkness, where nature is not functioning and

> > matter

> > > > is

> > > > > completely dormant and static. Chakras above sahasrara

represent

> > the

> > > > higher

> > > > > divine conciousness. Sahasrara is the highest in human

evolution

> > and

> > > > the

> > > > > first step in the highest divine evolution. How are the Lokas

> and

> > the

> > > > life

> > > > > within these lokas described in the shastras. Don't we see the

> > > > behavioural

> > > > > pattern and psychology of a person unfolding here?

> > > > >

> > > > > Kundalini is the shakti said to control every affair of life.

> When

> > it

> > > > passes

> > > > > through the animal stages of evolution, it influences the

whole

> > > > species with

> > > > > avidya or ignorance and the animal kingdom is compelled to

> follow

> > the

> > > > > tamasic phase of eating, sleeping, fearing and mating. From

> > muladhara

> > > > onward

> > > > > we pass through the rajasic phase and from sahasrara onward we

> > enter

> > > > the

> > > > > sattvic. Upto muladhar, evolution is automatic. Prakriti

> controls

> > them

> > > > > completely and benevolently, as they don't think and have no

> power

> > of

> > > > > realisation. Can we relate these with actual manifestations in

a

> > > > native?

> > > > >

> > > > > Once kundalini or primordial shakti, reaches muladhara,

> evolution

> > is

> > > > no

> > > > > longer spontaneous as man finds awareness of time and space,

and

> > he

> > > > gets an

> > > > > ego. He has a higher consciousness and he has to work towards

> his

> > > > evolution.

> > > > > That is why it is said that kundalini is sleeping in muladhara

> > chakra

> > > > and

> > > > > for further progress beyond this point it has to be pushed.

> Within

> > > > their

> > > > > range of chakras, all individuals within the species are at

> > different

> > > > levels

> > > > > on the scale of evolution due to their progress in previous

> lives,

> > or

> > > > the

> > > > > sadhana and sanskars. e.g someone might have kundalini in

> anahata

> > at

> > > > birth,

> > > > > and its ascension should start from there. But we can't

remember

> > our

> > > > > previous lives, so we also forget about the state and level of

> the

> > our

> > > > > kundalini. Can't we try and locate this point of evolution in

> the

> > > > chart?

> > > > >

> > > > > People born with awakened chakras and kundalini appear to be

are

> > > > superior

> > > > > people in different aspects of life, depending upon the level

of

> > > > > achievement. They may be great musicians, artists, scientists,

> > > > research

> > > > > scholars, inventors, prophets, statesmen, etc. Children born

> with

> > > > higher

> > > > > shakti may show different manifestations as they grow up.

> However,

> > our

> > > > > materialistic societies consider these manifestations as

> abnormal

> > and

> > > > those

> > > > > who display them are subjected to psychoanalysis and

> psychological

> > > > scrutiny

> > > > > and treatment. How do we see this in the horoscope? Is R/K

axis

> a

> > > > pointer to

> > > > > this development?

> > > > >

> > > > > The ultimate purpose of this shakti is to ascend through all

the

> > > > chakras and

> > > > > to awaken them and their related parts of the brain. Aren't

> these

> > > > changes

> > > > > significantly relevant to with our day to day life.. At the

> mental

> > > > level, it

> > > > > will relate to our emotional make up. Our love and hatred, our

> > > > relationships

> > > > > with people, they are the consequences of the quality of our

> > present

> > > > mind.

> > > > > Our sufferings, agonies and frustrations are not so much due

to

> > the

> > > > > circumstances of life, but more to the responses of our mind.

> The

> > > > higher

> > > > > qualities of a man, such as love, compassion, charity, mercy,

> etc.

> > are

> > > > the

> > > > > expressions of a mind which is influenced by awakened

> > conciousness. Is

> > > > > Kaal-sarp yog pointing to these developments in a soul?

> > > > >

> > > > > In essence, the concept of muladhara is understood as moola

> > prakriti,

> > > > the

> > > > > transcendental basis of physical nature. The whole universe

and

> > all

> > > > its

> > > > > objects must have some basis from which they evolve and to

which

> > they

> > > > return

> > > > > after dissolution. The original source of all evolution is

mula

> > > > prakriti.

> > > > > Muladhara, as the basis of mula prakriti, is responsible for

> > > > everything that

> > > > > manifests in the world of name and form. And that everything

> > should be

> > > > > visible in the horoscope if observed from this 'root' angle.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Neelam

> > > > >

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January 22, 2009

Greetings to all!!!

I have "Kapsarpa" yoga in my birth chart and would like to be part of the discussions.

I may not necessarily agree cent percent to the theory of "sacrificing" one self but yes the people with this yoga I have seen are "passionate" about one thing or the other.

Would love to answer a questionnaire/questions...if you want to take this exercise further.

Regards

Roshan

Anita R <ash.rsh55 Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:24:02 PMRe: Re: Kala Sarpa in real force

Dear Bhaskar ji,ketu in vrishabha, guru in leo, kuja and chandra in kanya, ravi,shani and budha in thula, shukra and rahu in vrishchika, lagna in aries. You see, except a 4th house aspect guru casts on vrishchika, ( if that is of any consequence since guru aspects, 5th, 7th and 9th houses) none of the other planets actually aspect each other.Incidentally, I read in an article on the net that people with kala sarpa yoga are reincarnations of children who were sacrificed at the altar of the gods at the age of 12 during medieval times. The children, I believe were made aware of the fact right from early childhood that they will be sacrificed when the time came for the betterment of the community and this got ingrained in their psyche so deeply that they carried forward this feeling of having to sacrifice themselves in their future reincarnations too. I know atleast 6 people with this kala sarpa yoga and surprise of surprises, they all have a need

to throw themselves heart and soul in to one thing or the other. It may be a cause, a political one, social one, personal one, but they do sort of "go all out over", you know sort of "die for", sort of "kill themselves over", "go overboard" with something or the other, does not matter what. It may be a ordinary cause or a lofty one. Perhaps we should do a survey about this.Regards,Anita

January 22, 2009

Dear Anita ji,

// ketu in vrishabha, guru in leo, kuja and chandra in kanya, ravi,shani and budha in thula, shukra and rahu in vrishchika, lagna in aries. You see, except a 4th house aspect guru casts on vrishchika, ( if that is of any consequence since guru aspects, 5th, 7th and 9th houses) none of the other planets actually aspect each other. //

A birth date and time of Birth place with location of Birth would help further to analyse this.

// Incidentally, I read in an article on the net that people with kala sarpa yoga are reincarnations of children who were sacrificed at the altar of the gods at the age of 12 during medieval times. The children, I believe were made aware of the fact right from early childhood that they will be sacrificed when the time came for the betterment of the community and this got ingrained in their psyche so deeply that they carried forward this feeling of having to sacrifice themselves in their future reincarnations too. //

This is kinda wierd . God only knows whether this really the truth.

// I know atleast 6 people with this kala sarpa yoga and surprise of surprises, they all have a need to throw themselves heart and soul in to one thing or the other. It may be a cause, a political one, social one, personal one, but they do sort of "go all out over", you know sort of "die for", sort of "kill themselves over", "go overboard" with something or the other, does not matter what. It may be a ordinary cause or a lofty one. //

Yes this seems possible and palatable.

// Perhaps we should do a survey about this.//

I have got better work. But no harm for a research bent of mind. This type of reasearch is much needed for the day with people coming out with many theories about Kala sarpa, some denying some confirming about its existence. Some myths are certainly needed to be broken, while others to be confirmed. This can happen if one can produce a research work with 50 authentic Charts of Kala sarpa Yoga.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, Anita R <ash.rsh55 wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar ji,> ketu in vrishabha, guru in leo, kuja and chandra in kanya, ravi,shani and budha in thula, shukra and rahu in vrishchika, lagna in aries. You see, except a 4th house aspect guru casts on vrishchika, ( if that is of any consequence since guru aspects, 5th, 7th and 9th houses) none of the other planets actually aspect each other.> Incidentally, I read in an article on the net that people with kala sarpa yoga are reincarnations of children who were sacrificed at the altar of the gods at the age of 12 during medieval times. The children, I believe were made aware of the fact right from early childhood that they will be sacrificed when the time came for the betterment of the community and this got ingrained in their psyche so deeply that they carried forward this feeling of having to sacrifice themselves in their future reincarnations too. I know atleast 6 people with this kala sarpa yoga and surprise of surprises, they all have a need to throw themselves heart and soul in to one thing or the other. It may be a cause, a political one, social one, personal one, but they do sort of "go all out over", you know sort of "die for", sort of "kill themselves over", "go overboard" with something or the other, does not matter what. It may be a ordinary cause or a lofty one.> Perhaps we should do a survey about this.> Regards,> Anita> > --- On Wed, 21/1/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish Re: Kala Sarpa in real force> > Wednesday, 21 January, 2009, 8:13 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anita ji,> > > > One with good intelligence cannot exactly even explain why he is having> > a headache, or why he is unhappy in Life, which requires no technical> > education, the how can astrologers be expected to answer every query> > coming out of the blue, with satisfaction ? Thats just not possible.> > There is a limit to knowledge acquired by humans, and even more limit to> > a individuals acquired knowledge.> > > > But please give me a example of the chart configurations given by you,> > with a date of birth, time of birth and the place of birth. Lt us talk> > on facts and figures and see if we arrive at some conclusion and> > consensus.> > > > regards,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R ash.rsh55@ ..>> > wrote:> > >> > > Respected Bhaskar ji,> > > this is a question which none of the astrologers have been able to> > satisfactorily answer. When a person has a kalasarpa yoga and if you> > exclude rahu and ketu and find that none of the 7 planets actually> > aspect each other, being in 4 consecutive houses, what impact would it> > have on the person? what would be the implications of this arrangement> > of planets.?> > > Thanking you,> > > With regards,> > > Anita>

January 22, 2009

Greetings Roshan,

I have few questions -

1) what is kala sarpa Yoga ?

2) is there anything known as Partial kalasarpa Yoga ?

3) What has been your experience with kalaSarpa Yoga natives, as an

astrologer/student/Master (??) and as a holder of this same Yoga in

Your own Chart.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

, rossin ucile

<kandisa_ur wrote:

>

> Greetings to all!!!

>

> I have " Kapsarpa " yoga in my birth chart and would like to be part of

the discussions.

> I may not necessarily agree cent percent to the theory of

" sacrificing " one self but yes the people with this yoga I have seen are

" passionate " about one thing or the other.

>

> Would love to answer a questionnaire/questions...if you want to take

this exercise further.

>

> Regards

>

> Roshan

>

> ________________________________

> Anita R ash.rsh55

>

> Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:24:02 PM

> Re: Re: Kala Sarpa in real force

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

> ketu in vrishabha, guru in leo, kuja and chandra in kanya, ravi,shani

and budha in thula, shukra and rahu in vrishchika, lagna in aries. You

see, except a 4th house aspect guru casts on vrishchika, ( if that is of

any consequence since guru aspects, 5th, 7th and 9th houses) none of the

other planets actually aspect each other.

> Incidentally, I read in an article on the net that people with kala

sarpa yoga are reincarnations of children who were sacrificed at the

altar of the gods at the age of 12 during medieval times. The children,

I believe were made aware of the fact right from early childhood that

they will be sacrificed when the time came for the betterment of the

community and this got ingrained in their psyche so deeply that they

carried forward this feeling of having to sacrifice themselves in their

future reincarnations too. I know atleast 6 people with this kala sarpa

yoga and surprise of surprises, they all have a need to throw themselves

heart and soul in to one thing or the other. It may be a cause, a

political one, social one, personal one, but they do sort of " go all out

over " , you know sort of " die for " , sort of " kill themselves over " , " go

overboard " with something or the other, does not matter what. It may be

a ordinary cause or a lofty one.

> Perhaps we should do a survey about this.

> Regards,

> Anita

>

January 22, 2009

Dear Anita ji,

I am interested in learning further from these views just presented by

You. Can I know the source of these views. That would be a good help.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, Anita R <ash.rsh55

wrote:

>

> Hi,

> There is also a view that kala sarpa maginifies and amplifies all the

other yogas in the chart. good as well as bad so that the person appears

to be star crossed having very good things on one side and bad things on

the other.. another view is that the person rises to the top of his /

her career and then it suddenly ends. Either in the end of the career or

it ends in the death of the person.

> Regards,

> Anita

>

January 22, 2009

Dear Bhaskar ji,The source of this information is a colleague of my husband who was a master at interpreting the horoscope as far as a person's nature and character went. He is no more. He is the one who triggered off my interest in astrology in the first place. I do not know on what basis he told me, but he WAS a master.Regards,Anita--- On Thu, 22/1/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re:Kala Sarpa in real force Date: Thursday, 22 January, 2009, 2:19 PM

Dear Anita ji,

I am interested in learning further from these views just presented by

You. Can I know the source of these views. That would be a good help.

regards,

Bhaskar.

ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R <ash.rsh55@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Hi,

> There is also a view that kala sarpa maginifies and amplifies all the

other yogas in the chart. good as well as bad so that the person appears

to be star crossed having very good things on one side and bad things on

the other.. another view is that the person rises to the top of his /

her career and then it suddenly ends. Either in the end of the career or

it ends in the death of the person.

> Regards,

> Anita

>

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