Which Ascendant is best?

December 19, 2008

Dear All membran,

I would like to know your practical opinion about our basic of

astrology,The Lagana.Some member will feel it waste of time but we

will learn from our experienced and learned members about it.

May i request ,to you all, to share your knowledge and experiences

with others for revive the base of Astrology.

Thanks,

M.S.Bohra

December 22, 2008

dear Bohraji,

Nobody is interested to share his knowledge about Best Ascendant.They

wants to keep their knowledge within himself or herself.Or they find

it to waste of the time.As Pathiji have elaborate 6th house and many

find it Informative as like Ascendant also will be informative for

that our learned member are have to share,but they have other

occupation also.So Waite till then.

Thanks,

M.S.Bohra

, " msbohra62 "

<msbohra62 wrote:

>

> Dear All membran,

>

> I would like to know your practical opinion about our basic of

> astrology,The Lagana.Some member will feel it waste of time but we

> will learn from our experienced and learned members about it.

>

> May i request ,to you all, to share your knowledge and experiences

> with others for revive the base of Astrology.

>

> Thanks,

>

> M.S.Bohra

>

December 22, 2008

Dear Bohra ji,

Are you replying yourself ? I am confused.

The query put up in the first place itself was unclear. I remember my thoughts clearly when this was first posted on the forum.

What is being asked about the Lagna exactly ? Any examples or illustrations alongwith would have been more meaningful and one could understand the query put up.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, "msbohra62" <msbohra62 wrote:>> > dear Bohraji,> > Nobody is interested to share his knowledge about Best Ascendant.They> wants to keep their knowledge within himself or herself.Or they find> it to waste of the time.As Pathiji have elaborate 6th house and many> find it Informative as like Ascendant also will be informative for> that our learned member are have to share,but they have other> occupation also.So Waite till then.> > Thanks,> > M.S.Bohra> > > > , "msbohra62"> msbohra62@ wrote:> >> > Dear All membran,> > > > I would like to know your practical opinion about our basic of> > astrology,The Lagana.Some member will feel it waste of time but we> > will learn from our experienced and learned members about it.> > > > May i request ,to you all, to share your knowledge and experiences> > with others for revive the base of Astrology.> > > > Thanks,> > > > M.S.Bohra> >>

December 22, 2008

Dear Bohra ji, It is cute to see you responding to yourself. Any way here are the pointers. There was a thread in Vedic-Astrology group that I started and discussed the predicting with Lagna alone for long. Here is the link: vedic astrology/message/68937 } Some similar threads happened in this group as well. And in the pdf file present inside the folder "Sreenadh" in file section also you will find some useful information. Hope this helps.Love and regards,Sreenadh , "msbohra62" <msbohra62 wrote:>> > dear Bohraji,> > Nobody is interested to share his knowledge about Best Ascendant.They> wants to keep their knowledge within himself or herself.Or they find> it to waste of the time.As Pathiji have elaborate 6th house and many> find it Informative as like Ascendant also will be informative for> that our learned member are have to share,but they have other> occupation also.So Waite till then.> > Thanks,> > M.S.Bohra> > > > , "msbohra62"> msbohra62@ wrote:> >> > Dear All membran,> > > > I would like to know your practical opinion about our basic of> > astrology,The Lagana.Some member will feel it waste of time but we> > will learn from our experienced and learned members about it.> > > > May i request ,to you all, to share your knowledge and experiences> > with others for revive the base of Astrology.> > > > Thanks,> > > > M.S.Bohra> >>

December 22, 2008

Dear Bhaskar ji, It seems that Bohra ji is looking some thing similar to as discussed in : Astro_Book.pdf about Aries and Taurus Lagna. If his question is different and is something like - Which Lagna is better? Then my answer would be - All Lagnas are good and bad. It all depends on the planetary positions. Any Lagna can be the best or worst, depending upon the planetary placements. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Bhaskar" <rajiventerprises wrote:>> > Dear Bohra ji,> > Are you replying yourself ? I am confused.> > The query put up in the first place itself was unclear. I remember my> thoughts clearly when this was first posted on the forum.> > What is being asked about the Lagna exactly ? Any examples or> illustrations alongwith would have been more meaningful and one could> understand the query put up.> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > , "msbohra62"> msbohra62@ wrote:> >> >> > dear Bohraji,> >> > Nobody is interested to share his knowledge about Best Ascendant.They> > wants to keep their knowledge within himself or herself.Or they find> > it to waste of the time.As Pathiji have elaborate 6th house and many> > find it Informative as like Ascendant also will be informative for> > that our learned member are have to share,but they have other> > occupation also.So Waite till then.> >> > Thanks,> >> > M.S.Bohra> >> >> >> > , "msbohra62"> > msbohra62@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear All membran,> > >> > > I would like to know your practical opinion about our basic of> > > astrology,The Lagana.Some member will feel it waste of time but we> > > will learn from our experienced and learned members about it.> > >> > > May i request ,to you all, to share your knowledge and experiences> > > with others for revive the base of Astrology.> > >> > > Thanks,> > >> > > M.S.Bohra> > >> >>

December 22, 2008

Dear Sreenadhji,

Exactly the same words came in my mind " All lagnas are good and bad

...... " , and just kept myself on hold and did not write it, for I was

not sure what is being asked.

Writing on Lagna , one can write 200 Pages, and if one gives example he

can continue as much as one has the time to. In todays times, when the

shortage resource is time itself, specifics are what is being looked

for.

Put Query - Have the answer - Finished. Move on to the next one.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

> It seems that Bohra ji is looking some thing similar to as discussed

> in : Astro_Book.pdf

>

<Sreenadh%2\

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> 0OG/Astro_Book.pdf%20> about Aries and Taurus Lagna.

> If his question is different and is something like - Which Lagna is

> better? Then my answer would be - All Lagnas are good and bad. It all

> depends on the planetary positions. Any Lagna can be the best or

worst,

> depending upon the planetary placements.

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " Bhaskar "

> rajiventerprises@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bohra ji,

> >

> > Are you replying yourself ? I am confused.

> >

> > The query put up in the first place itself was unclear. I remember

my

> > thoughts clearly when this was first posted on the forum.

> >

> > What is being asked about the Lagna exactly ? Any examples or

> > illustrations alongwith would have been more meaningful and one

could

> > understand the query put up.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , " msbohra62 "

> > msbohra62@ wrote:

> > >

> > > dear Bohraji,

> > >

> > > Nobody is interested to share his knowledge about Best

> Ascendant.They

> > > wants to keep their knowledge within himself or herself.Or they

find

> > > it to waste of the time.As Pathiji have elaborate 6th house and

many

> > > find it Informative as like Ascendant also will be informative for

> > > that our learned member are have to share,but they have other

> > > occupation also.So Waite till then.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > M.S.Bohra

> > >

> > > , " msbohra62 "

> > > msbohra62@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear All membran,

> > > >

> > > > I would like to know your practical opinion about our basic of

> > > > astrology,The Lagana.Some member will feel it waste of time but

we

> > > > will learn from our experienced and learned members about it.

> > > >

> > > > May i request ,to you all, to share your knowledge and

experiences

> > > > with others for revive the base of Astrology.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > M.S.Bohra

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

December 22, 2008

Dear Bhaskarji and Sreenadhji,

I have reply to myself(It's look funny na!) because nobody have taken

a step to comment on my topic for Best Ascendant.

It is stimulating action for our other members to take this topic to

reply.

We all know ,we have 12 Ascendant in Astrology.Every Ascendant have

different characteristic and Bhava lord are represented by different

planet.Everything have change in different Ascendant as per lord of

house representation by differ planet.

My question is Which Ascendant is best,where all planets give or

become beneficiary to the native.As like Libra Ascendant.Venus is

lagana lord and 8thlord,Mars 2nd and 7th lord,Saturn 4th and 5th

lord,Mercury 9th,12 lord these are beneficiary to Libra.As like this

the maximum planets become benefice in a particular Ascendant.They

create Yog-Karaka by their combination.

As Pativji have elaborate for 6th house.I asked for Ascendant,which is

best or why?

I hope , I am clear about my queries.

Thanks,

M.S.Bohra

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Bohra ji,

> It is cute to see you responding to yourself. [] Any way

here are

> the pointers.

> There was a thread in Vedic-Astrology group that I started and

> discussed the predicting with Lagna alone for long. Here is the link:

> vedic astrology/message/68937

> <vedic astrology/message/68937> }

> Some similar threads happened in this group as well. And in the pdf

> file present inside the folder " Sreenadh " in file section also you will

> find some useful information.

> Hope this helps.

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " msbohra62 "

> <msbohra62@> wrote:

> >

> > dear Bohraji,

> >

> > Nobody is interested to share his knowledge about Best Ascendant.They

> > wants to keep their knowledge within himself or herself.Or they find

> > it to waste of the time.As Pathiji have elaborate 6th house and many

> > find it Informative as like Ascendant also will be informative for

> > that our learned member are have to share,but they have other

> > occupation also.So Waite till then.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > M.S.Bohra

> >

> > , " msbohra62 "

> > msbohra62@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All membran,

> > >

> > > I would like to know your practical opinion about our basic of

> > > astrology,The Lagana.Some member will feel it waste of time but we

> > > will learn from our experienced and learned members about it.

> > >

> > > May i request ,to you all, to share your knowledge and experiences

> > > with others for revive the base of Astrology.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > M.S.Bohra

> > >

> >

>

December 22, 2008

Dear Bohra ji,

People with different signs were asked

about what car they would like to own.

These were the answers:

Aries: Something fast... and red!

Taurus: A volvo

Gemini: Car? you mean two cars.

Cancer: A family car

Leo: A limo.. with a chauffeur

Virgo: An economic car. Virgo will have it clean and neat and ready to drive

everyone everywhere.

Libra: Will not be able to make a choice and will end up riding with friends.

Scoprio: something in a dark color.. fumed windows. No one will know what it

looks like inside

Sagiattrius: What car? The Sag is on a plane right now.

Capricorn: A mercedes benz..

Aquarius: The waterbearer takes buses and subways. Cars are for snobby people.

Pisces: Doesn't matter. Pisces will always be too stoned to remember the parking

spot.

Which is the best reply? I thought they were all sweet and nice and and

obviously, to each his own…

How can ascendants be good, better and

best? For that matter how can any chart be weighed and put into degrees of

goodness? Who is the judge? And what are the parameters?I think it is absurd to talk like that. It

is behaving like a child, who has only seen only a book of alphabets, saying 'N'

is the best alphabet! Why 'N'? My name starts with it silly, ha ha! The child laughs.Please don't mind, just sharing some fun. I might've missed the depth in your question.

RegardsNeelam

December 22, 2008

Dear Bohra ji,

Just like Shri Sreenadhji said , we cannot exactly determine and conclude which ascendant is the best , among the dozen given to us.

Also there is no defnition or measure of scale for being best , because this differs from person to person what he like , what he wants from Life etc.

They say that People born with Leo ascendants are Gods chosen and lucky, but how can one explain this when Leos can never be lucky in their Love Lives ( Jupiter Lord of 5 as well as 8, so 5th will never work on its own ), or they would be the most prone towards heart attacks. But again here, just one planet if well placed ( Mercury ) can make all the difference to the native, either he will be a very rich man or a very poor man. Why ? Because Mercury has the portfolio of both 2nd and 11th. But what about their marriage ? Most of them will have unhappy marriages. Why ? because the 7th Lord saturn opposes the Ascendant Lord Sun. Also because the 7th Lord had co-ownership of the 6th too, which opposes marriage . If saturn is strong then wife will also be strong , so is it good or bad ? And if saturn is strong then as natural karaka the longevity would also be strong. What about Mars ? 4th and 9th . If strong then education, parents all strong. But if weak, then as badhak Lord will it be good or bad ? There are hundreds of such arguments about each Lagna, so those who have time can discuss about such delicasies.

In same way you please discuss about other Lagnas and let us have your conclusions which Lagna You feel is the best.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, "msbohra62" <msbohra62 wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji and Sreenadhji,> > I have reply to myself(It's look funny na!) because nobody have taken> a step to comment on my topic for Best Ascendant.> It is stimulating action for our other members to take this topic to> reply.> We all know ,we have 12 Ascendant in Astrology.Every Ascendant have> different characteristic and Bhava lord are represented by different> planet.Everything have change in different Ascendant as per lord of> house representation by differ planet.> > My question is Which Ascendant is best,where all planets give or> become beneficiary to the native.As like Libra Ascendant.Venus is> lagana lord and 8thlord,Mars 2nd and 7th lord,Saturn 4th and 5th> lord,Mercury 9th,12 lord these are beneficiary to Libra.As like this> the maximum planets become benefice in a particular Ascendant.They> create Yog-Karaka by their combination.> > As Pativji have elaborate for 6th house.I asked for Ascendant,which is> best or why?> > I hope , I am clear about my queries.> > Thanks,> > M.S.Bohra> > > > > , "Sreenadh"> sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear Bohra ji,> > It is cute to see you responding to yourself. [] Any way> here are> > the pointers.> > There was a thread in Vedic-Astrology group that I started and> > discussed the predicting with Lagna alone for long. Here is the link:> > vedic astrology/message/68937> > <vedic astrology/message/68937> }> > Some similar threads happened in this group as well. And in the pdf> > file present inside the folder "Sreenadh" in file section also you will> > find some useful information.> > Hope this helps.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > , "msbohra62"> > <msbohra62@> wrote:> > >> > >> > > dear Bohraji,> > >> > > Nobody is interested to share his knowledge about Best Ascendant.They> > > wants to keep their knowledge within himself or herself.Or they find> > > it to waste of the time.As Pathiji have elaborate 6th house and many> > > find it Informative as like Ascendant also will be informative for> > > that our learned member are have to share,but they have other> > > occupation also.So Waite till then.> > >> > > Thanks,> > >> > > M.S.Bohra> > >> > >> > >> > > , "msbohra62"> > > msbohra62@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear All membran,> > > >> > > > I would like to know your practical opinion about our basic of> > > > astrology,The Lagana.Some member will feel it waste of time but we> > > > will learn from our experienced and learned members about it.> > > >> > > > May i request ,to you all, to share your knowledge and experiences> > > > with others for revive the base of Astrology.> > > >> > > > Thanks,> > > >> > > > M.S.Bohra> > > >> > >> >>

December 22, 2008

Dear Sreenath ji, Bhora ji, Bhaskar ji, Neelam ji and others,

We have centered our discussion to choice between Ascendant and Chandra Lagna : Which is 'best'?.

Ascendant is the main factor as it is designed to point the time of birth. The whole chart, readings, strength of Planets and their functions, actions and reactions etc. are entirely dependent on the birth time, on a given date and place. Here we have a placement of the point to indicate the 'birth' among 30 degrees in the house, to the precise degree, when the person was born.

For Chandra Lagna we have two and half Stars referred to in a house of its occupation, to effect the various convictions from the place of Moon referred to birth Star in the birth chart. Here we have 13 Degrees and 20 Mts in the Star Zone to find the birth of the person. The influence of Stars on the Moon is the base when we take the birth of the Natal. So the phase and effects of Moon will differ in the same house, spread to the space of the star, among the space of the two and a quarter of stars, where the Moon is positioned in a birth chart. To find the strength of the Moon, we rush to Navamsa postion of the Moon. However, we respect the Moon's position and its influence, when we discuss the Dasa etc.

When, in comparison, we find that the Ascendant house is the 'common factor' for the influence of various Planets to birth 'time', The Moon would refer to the day of birth (Nakshathra to be more precise). The other 'validity' to find the strength between the Ascendant and the Moon are well known to all astrologers.

As such I give priority to recognize the Ascendant over the Moon sign in starting the inferences on various 'cause and effect' in reading the charts.

However, I do not fail to recognize the points put forth by you in arriving that there is not 'much' to choose between Ascendant and Moon in measuring 'strength'.

I wish some could correct my inference.

A.V.Pathi,

Bhaskar <rajiventerprises Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 8:14:39 AM Re: Which Ascendant is best?

Dear Bohra ji,

Just like Shri Sreenadhji said , we cannot exactly determine and conclude which ascendant is the best , among the dozen given to us.

Also there is no defnition or measure of scale for being best , because this differs from person to person what he like , what he wants from Life etc.

They say that People born with Leo ascendants are Gods chosen and lucky, but how can one explain this when Leos can never be lucky in their Love Lives ( Jupiter Lord of 5 as well as 8, so 5th will never work on its own ), or they would be the most prone towards heart attacks. But again here, just one planet if well placed ( Mercury ) can make all the difference to the native, either he will be a very rich man or a very poor man. Why ? Because Mercury has the portfolio of both 2nd and 11th. But what about their marriage ? Most of them will have unhappy marriages. Why ? because the 7th Lord saturn opposes the Ascendant Lord Sun. Also because the 7th Lord had co-ownership of the 6th too, which opposes marriage . If saturn is strong then wife will also be strong , so is it good or bad ? And if saturn is strong then as natural karaka the longevity would also be strong. What about Mars ? 4th and 9th . If

strong then education, parents all strong. But if weak, then as badhak Lord will it be good or bad ? There are hundreds of such arguments about each Lagna, so those who have time can discuss about such delicasies.

In same way you please discuss about other Lagnas and let us have your conclusions which Lagna You feel is the best.

regards,

Bhaskar.

ancient_indian_ astrology, "msbohra62" <msbohra62@.. .> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji and Sreenadhji,> > I have reply to myself(It's look funny na!) because nobody have taken> a step to comment on my topic for Best Ascendant.> It is stimulating action for our other members to take this topic to> reply.> We all know ,we have 12 Ascendant in Astrology.Every Ascendant have> different characteristic and Bhava lord are represented by different> planet.Everything have change in different Ascendant as per lord of> house representation by differ planet.> > My question is Which Ascendant is best,where all planets give or> become beneficiary to the native.As like Libra Ascendant.Venus is> lagana lord and 8thlord,Mars 2nd and 7th lord,Saturn 4th and 5th> lord,Mercury 9th,12 lord these are beneficiary to Libra.As like

this> the maximum planets become benefice in a particular Ascendant.They> create Yog-Karaka by their combination.> > As Pativji have elaborate for 6th house.I asked for Ascendant,which is> best or why?> > I hope , I am clear about my queries.> > Thanks,> > M.S.Bohra> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sreenadh"> sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear Bohra ji,> > It is cute to see you responding to yourself. [] Any way> here are> > the pointers.> > There was a thread in Vedic-Astrology group that I started and> > discussed the predicting with Lagna alone for long. Here is the link:> > http://groups. / group/vedic- astrology/ message/68937> > <http://groups. /

group/vedic- astrology/ message/68937> }> > Some similar threads happened in this group as well. And in the pdf> > file present inside the folder "Sreenadh" in file section also you will> > find some useful information.> > Hope this helps.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "msbohra62"> > <msbohra62@> wrote:> > >> > >> > > dear Bohraji,> > >> > > Nobody is interested to share his knowledge about Best Ascendant.They> > > wants to keep their knowledge within himself or herself.Or they find> > > it to waste of the time.As Pathiji have elaborate 6th house and many> > > find it Informative as like Ascendant also will be informative for> > > that our learned member are have to share,but they

have other> > > occupation also.So Waite till then.> > >> > > Thanks,> > >> > > M.S.Bohra> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "msbohra62"> > > msbohra62@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear All membran,> > > >> > > > I would like to know your practical opinion about our basic of> > > > astrology,The Lagana.Some member will feel it waste of time but we> > > > will learn from our experienced and learned members about it.> > > >> > > > May i request ,to you all, to share your knowledge and experiences> > > > with others for revive the base of Astrology.> > > >> > > > Thanks,> > > >> > > >

M.S.Bohra> > > >> > >> >>

December 22, 2008

Dear Shri Pathiji,

You write -

// As such I give priority to recognize the Ascendant over the Moon sign in starting the inferences on various 'cause and effect' in reading the charts. //

Of course the Ascendant must get the priority without doubt.

Simply because the ascendant shows what nobody else has got, what no other person has got, a configuration of planets in his chart which only few would be having - dependent on the Ascendant degrees.

What about the Moon Chart ?

Moon chart is based on the Moon sign. For 3 degrees 20' which means within span of 13 minutes approximately millions of people born over the world will have same Ascendant and same Navamsha sign, and of course same Moon sign .

So we have to search for that special effect in every person, and not generalised effects. How will special effects be arrived at ?

Moon in every sign stays for 2 1/2 days.

Lagna remains same for 2 hours.

Navamsha sign remains same for about 13 minutes.

But Lagna changes every 4 minutes.

Therefore only the Lagna degrees or the Ascendant degrees will remain most important for various cause and effects while reading any chart. Rest all are secondary.

Best wishes.

Bhaskar.

, venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote:>> Dear Sreenath ji, Bhora ji, Bhaskar ji, Neelam ji and others,> > We have centered our discussion to choice between Ascendant and Chandra Lagna : Which is 'best'?.> > Ascendant is the main factor as it is designed to point the time of birth. The whole chart, readings, strength of Planets and their functions, actions and reactions etc. are entirely dependent on the birth time, on a given date and place. Here we have a placement of the point to indicate the 'birth' among 30 degrees in the house, to the precise degree, when the person was born.> > For Chandra Lagna we have two and half Stars referred to in a house of its occupation, to effect the various convictions from the place of Moon referred to birth Star in the birth chart. Here we have 13 Degrees and 20 Mts in the Star Zone to find the birth of the person. The influence of Stars on the Moon is the base when we take the birth of the Natal. So the phase and effects of Moon will differ in the same house, spread to the space of the star, among the space of the two and a quarter of stars, where the Moon is positioned in a birth chart. To find the strength of the Moon, we rush to Navamsa postion of the Moon. However, we respect the Moon's position and its influence, when we discuss the Dasa etc.> > When, in comparison, we find that the Ascendant house is the 'common factor' for the influence of various Planets to birth 'time', The Moon would refer to the day of birth (Nakshathra to be more precise). The other 'validity' to find the strength between the Ascendant and the Moon are well known to all astrologers. > > As such I give priority to recognize the Ascendant over the Moon sign in starting the inferences on various 'cause and effect' in reading the charts.> > However, I do not fail to recognize the points put forth by you in arriving that there is not 'much' to choose between Ascendant and Moon in measuring 'strength'.> > I wish some could correct my inference.> > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > > > > ________________________________> Bhaskar rajiventerprises > Monday, December 22, 2008 8:14:39 AM> Re: Which Ascendant is best?> > > Dear Bohra ji,> Just like Shri Sreenadhji said , we cannot exactly determine and conclude which ascendant is the best , among the dozen given to us. > Also there is no defnition or measure of scale for being best , because this differs from person to person what he like , what he wants from Life etc.> They say that People born with Leo ascendants are Gods chosen and lucky, but how can one explain this when Leos can never be lucky in their Love Lives ( Jupiter Lord of 5 as well as 8, so 5th will never work on its own ), or they would be the most prone towards heart attacks. But again here, just one planet if well placed ( Mercury ) can make all the difference to the native, either he will be a very rich man or a very poor man. Why ? Because Mercury has the portfolio of both 2nd and 11th. But what about their marriage ? Most of them will have unhappy marriages. Why ? because the 7th Lord saturn opposes the Ascendant Lord Sun. Also because the 7th Lord had co-ownership of the 6th too, which opposes marriage . If saturn is strong then wife will also be strong , so is it good or bad ? And if saturn is strong then as natural karaka the longevity would also be strong. What about Mars ? 4th and 9th . If strong then education, parents all strong. But if> weak, then as badhak Lord will it be good or bad ? There are hundreds of such arguments about each Lagna, so those who have time can discuss about such delicasies. > In same way you please discuss about other Lagnas and let us have your conclusions which Lagna You feel is the best.> regards,> Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "msbohra62" msbohra62@ .> wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskarji and Sreenadhji,> > > > I have reply to myself(It's look funny na!) because nobody have taken> > a step to comment on my topic for Best Ascendant.> > It is stimulating action for our other members to take this topic to> > reply.> > We all know ,we have 12 Ascendant in Astrology.Every Ascendant have> > different characteristic and Bhava lord are represented by different> > planet.Everything have change in different Ascendant as per lord of> > house representation by differ planet.> > > > My question is Which Ascendant is best,where all planets give or> > become beneficiary to the native.As like Libra Ascendant.Venus is> > lagana lord and 8thlord,Mars 2nd and 7th lord,Saturn 4th and 5th> > lord,Mercury 9th,12 lord these are beneficiary to Libra.As like this> > the maximum planets become benefice in a particular Ascendant.They> > create Yog-Karaka by their combination.> > > > As Pativji have elaborate for 6th house.I asked for Ascendant,which is> > best or why?> > > > I hope , I am clear about my queries.> > > > Thanks,> > > > M.S.Bohra> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sreenadh"> > sreesog@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bohra ji,> > > It is cute to see you responding to yourself. [] Any way> > here are> > > the pointers.> > > There was a thread in Vedic-Astrology group that I started and> > > discussed the predicting with Lagna alone for long. Here is the link:> > > http://groups. / group/vedic- astrology/ message/68937> > > <http://groups. / group/vedic- astrology/ message/68937> }> > > Some similar threads happened in this group as well. And in the pdf> > > file present inside the folder "Sreenadh" in file section also you will> > > find some useful information.> > > Hope this helps.> > > Love and regards,> > > Sreenadh> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "msbohra62"> > > <msbohra62@> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > dear Bohraji,> > > >> > > > Nobody is interested to share his knowledge about Best Ascendant.They> > > > wants to keep their knowledge within himself or herself.Or they find> > > > it to waste of the time.As Pathiji have elaborate 6th house and many> > > > find it Informative as like Ascendant also will be informative for> > > > that our learned member are have to share,but they have other> > > > occupation also.So Waite till then.> > > >> > > > Thanks,> > > >> > > > M.S.Bohra> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "msbohra62"> > > > msbohra62@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear All membran,> > > > >> > > > > I would like to know your practical opinion about our basic of> > > > > astrology,The Lagana.Some member will feel it waste of time but we> > > > > will learn from our experienced and learned members about it.> > > > >> > > > > May i request ,to you all, to share your knowledge and experiences> > > > > with others for revive the base of Astrology.> > > > >> > > > > Thanks,> > > > >> > > > > M.S.Bohra> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

December 22, 2008

Dear Bhaskar ji,

Thank you immencely. In otherwords, Ascendant is the 'Main Dish' and Chandra Lagna is the 'Side Dish' !!!!!!!

Regards to as ever.

A.V.Pathi

December 22, 2008

Dear Pathi ji,

Yes. Sort of. Ascendant is the main Pivot on which others are built. The main sring of the watch. The compressor in the fridge or AC.

The Ascendant can also be compared to the Maharaani, the first wife one marries, but remember that sometimes the Maharaani does not bear a heir, the Patraani does.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

, venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar ji,> > Thank you immencely. In otherwords, Ascendant is the 'Main Dish' and Chandra Lagna is the 'Side Dish' !!!!!!!> > Regards to as ever.> > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > ________________________________> Bhaskar rajiventerprises > Monday, December 22, 2008 9:52:53 AM> Re: Which Ascendant is best?> > > Dear Shri Pathiji,> You write -> // As such I give priority to recognize the Ascendant over the Moon sign in starting the inferences on various 'cause and effect' in reading the charts. //> Of course the Ascendant must get the priority without doubt.> Simply because the ascendant shows what nobody else has got, what no other person has got, a configuration of planets in his chart which only few would be having - dependent on the Ascendant degrees.> What about the Moon Chart ?> Moon chart is based on the Moon sign. For 3 degrees 20' which means within span of 13 minutes approximately millions of people born over the world will have same Ascendant and same Navamsha sign, and of course same Moon sign .> So we have to search for that special effect in every person, and not generalised effects. How will special effects be arrived at ?> Moon in every sign stays for 2 1/2 days.> Lagna remains same for 2 hours.> Navamsha sign remains same for about 13 minutes.> But Lagna changes every 4 minutes. > Therefore only the Lagna degrees or the Ascendant degrees will remain most important for various cause and effects while reading any chart. Rest all are secondary.> Best wishes.> Bhaskar.> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala pathi pathiav@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sreenath ji, Bhora ji, Bhaskar ji, Neelam ji and others,> >> > We have centered our discussion to choice between Ascendant and Chandra Lagna : Which is 'best'?.> >> > Ascendant is the main factor as it is designed to point the time of birth. The whole chart, readings, strength of Planets and their functions, actions and reactions etc. are entirely dependent on the birth time, on a given date and place. Here we have a placement of the point to indicate the 'birth' among 30 degrees in the house, to the precise degree, when the person was born.> >> > For Chandra Lagna we have two and half Stars referred to in a house of its occupation, to effect the various convictions from the place of Moon referred to birth Star in the birth chart. Here we have 13 Degrees and 20 Mts in the Star Zone to find the birth of the person. The influence of Stars on the Moon is the base when we take the birth of the Natal. So the phase and effects of Moon will differ in the same house, spread to the space of the star, among the space of the two and a quarter of stars, where the Moon is positioned in a birth chart. To find the strength of the Moon, we rush to Navamsa postion of the Moon. However, we respect the Moon's position and its influence, when we discuss the Dasa etc.> >> > When, in comparison, we find that the Ascendant house is the 'common factor' for the influence of various Planets to birth 'time', The Moon would refer to the day of birth (Nakshathra to be more precise). The other 'validity' to find the strength between the Ascendant and the Moon are well known to all astrologers. > >> > As such I give priority to recognize the Ascendant over the Moon sign in starting the inferences on various 'cause and effect' in reading the charts.> >> > However, I do not fail to recognize the points put forth by you in arriving that there is not 'much' to choose between Ascendant and Moon in measuring 'strength'.> >> > I wish some could correct my inference.> > > > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ ...> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Monday, December 22, 2008 8:14:39 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Which Ascendant is best?> >> >> > Dear Bohra ji,> > Just like Shri Sreenadhji said , we cannot exactly determine and conclude which ascendant is the best , among the dozen given to us.> > Also there is no defnition or measure of scale for being best , because this differs from person to person what he like , what he wants from Life etc.> > They say that People born with Leo ascendants are Gods chosen and lucky, but how can one explain this when Leos can never be lucky in their Love Lives ( Jupiter Lord of 5 as well as 8, so 5th will never work on its own ), or they would be the most prone towards heart attacks. But again here, just one planet if well placed ( Mercury ) can make all the difference to the native, either he will be a very rich man or a very poor man. Why ? Because Mercury has the portfolio of both 2nd and 11th. But what about their marriage ? Most of them will have unhappy marriages. Why ? because the 7th Lord saturn opposes the Ascendant Lord Sun. Also because the 7th Lord had co-ownership of the 6th too, which opposes marriage . If saturn is strong then wife will also be strong , so is it good or bad ? And if saturn is strong then as natural karaka the longevity would also be strong. What about Mars ? 4th and 9th . If strong then education, parents all strong. But if> > weak, then as badhak Lord will it be good or bad ? There are hundreds of such arguments about each Lagna, so those who have time can discuss about such delicasies.> > In same way you please discuss about other Lagnas and let us have your conclusions which Lagna You feel is the best.> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "msbohra62" msbohra62@ .> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskarji and Sreenadhji,> > >> > > I have reply to myself(It's look funny na!) because nobody have taken> > > a step to comment on my topic for Best Ascendant.> > > It is stimulating action for our other members to take this topic to> > > reply.> > > We all know ,we have 12 Ascendant in Astrology.Every Ascendant have> > > different characteristic and Bhava lord are represented by different> > > planet.Everything have change in different Ascendant as per lord of> > > house representation by differ planet.> > >> > > My question is Which Ascendant is best,where all planets give or> > > become beneficiary to the native.As like Libra Ascendant.Venus is> > > lagana lord and 8thlord,Mars 2nd and 7th lord,Saturn 4th and 5th> > > lord,Mercury 9th,12 lord these are beneficiary to Libra.As like this> > > the maximum planets become benefice in a particular Ascendant.They> > > create Yog-Karaka by their combination.> > >> > > As Pativji have elaborate for 6th house.I asked for Ascendant,which is> > > best or why?> > >> > > I hope , I am clear about my queries.> > >> > > Thanks,> > >> > > M.S.Bohra> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sreenadh"> > > sreesog@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bohra ji,> > > > It is cute to see you responding to yourself. [] Any way> > > here are> > > > the pointers.> > > > There was a thread in Vedic-Astrology group that I started and> > > > discussed the predicting with Lagna alone for long. Here is the link:> > > > http://groups. / group/vedic- astrology/ message/68937> > > > <http://groups. / group/vedic- astrology/ message/68937> }> > > > Some similar threads happened in this group as well. And in the pdf> > > > file present inside the folder "Sreenadh" in file section also you will> > > > find some useful information.> > > > Hope this helps.> > > > Love and regards,> > > > Sreenadh> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "msbohra62"> > > > <msbohra62@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > dear Bohraji,> > > > >> > > > > Nobody is interested to share his knowledge about Best Ascendant.They> > > > > wants to keep their knowledge within himself or herself.Or they find> > > > > it to waste of the time.As Pathiji have elaborate 6th house and many> > > > > find it Informative as like Ascendant also will be informative for> > > > > that our learned member are have to share,but they have other> > > > > occupation also.So Waite till then.> > > > >> > > > > Thanks,> > > > >> > > > > M.S.Bohra> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "msbohra62"> > > > > msbohra62@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear All membran,> > > > > >> > > > > > I would like to know your practical opinion about our basic of> > > > > > astrology,The Lagana.Some member will feel it waste of time but we> > > > > > will learn from our experienced and learned members about it.> > > > > >> > > > > > May i request ,to you all, to share your knowledge and experiences> > > > > > with others for revive the base of Astrology.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > >> > > > > > M.S.Bohra> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

December 22, 2008

Dear Bhaskarji and Pathivji,

Maine Ascendant is base line or a printout(Naksa),planets are

base(Neev) and their position are what you will build.Dasa will

indicate when you will build.

So our ancestor have given more strength to Ascendant and lord of

Ascendant.Moon is planet which related to our mind function or 'Man'

by this they have calculated the Dasa period.Definitely we must see

the strength of our mind or 'Man' by Moon Ascendant along with Sun

Ascendant also.

The final come out ,which Dasa will benefice or bad decided by Maine

Ascendant not by Moon Ascendant.We can't dilute the Main Ascendant.

By nature Moon is so speedy and change speedily.How you can write on a

moving paper,so as base we must have a paper in still position.A

particular Ascendant rise for two hours in a day and we have 12 house

to write a chart.Moon rises in a star for 60 Ghati(All most a day) and

we have 27(Some says more)star,than how will you write a chart by

taking Moon Ascendant,please don't say by rashi now.For that we must

have 27 house chart to judge the characteristic of a native

So as per my view Main Ascendant is right to take any chart.

Thanks,

M.S.Bohra

, " Bhaskar "

<rajiventerprises wrote:

>

> Dear Pathi ji,

>

> Yes. Sort of. Ascendant is the main Pivot on which others are built.

> The main sring of the watch. The compressor in the fridge or AC.

>

> The Ascendant can also be compared to the Maharaani, the first wife one

> marries, but remember that sometimes the Maharaani does not bear a heir,

> the Patraani does.

>

> best wishes,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> , venkatachala pathi

> <pathiav@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> >

> > Thank you immencely. In otherwords, Ascendant is the 'Main Dish' and

> Chandra Lagna is the 'Side Dish' !!!!!!!

> >

> > Regards to as ever.

> >

> > A.V.Pathi,

> >