Rahu Kalam - Please read this . Its revealing.

October 12, 2008

Dear Bhaskar ji,//For a Leo person, marital happiness would be a rarity, unless he has very fortunate combinations in his chart for the same. This is because Sun having ownership of the 1st house for Leo, and Saturn having ownership of the 7th house for Leo, are both sworn enemies. Next, Saturn is also the Lord of the 6th house, which adds to the bitterness in the marriage, as the 6th house traits are always the cause for incompatibilities, and if they conjoin with the 12th and 8th, then it is a definite Divorce or separation.//What a profound statement and how true! This brings us to another question… Why are the luminaries denied partnerships? The same thing also holds true for Cancer and it is well known that a cancer native can never get happiness with marriage and relationships. Here also we see Saturn lording over 7H and 8H. Although 8H is mangalyaa, but at the same time, 7H is also loss of mangalya. With it two consecutive lordships, Saturn always creates situations where it becomes both giver and destroyer. Does it mean Saturn is the pointer where the native will face challenges in life?What happens when Saturn is both lagna lord and 12L? What are the inherent implications? How do we assess Saturn then? Which is the house that gains prominence? Is it the mooltrikon sign that it supports more (7H in leo or 9H in gem). This is really something to chew and ruminate upon.RegardsNeelam

October 12, 2008

The Lady -

In The Ladys chart Sun MD uptil 2013.

The Sun signifies the houses 6, 7,10, and 12.

Of these except for the 7th houses, rest are not

favourable for compatibility. So this Mahadasha

is not very favourable for marriage happiness.

The next MD is of Moon.

Moon signifies 3,4, 9 and 12.

Of these 4 and 12 are not favourable for marriage.

Rest are neutral.

Punarphoo Dosa is there in the chart, due to

Moon in Pushya nakshatra owned by the Moon.

Saturn is aspecting the Moon in the 9th.

Mars is aspecting the Moon in the 9th.

( It also carries Rahus influence alongwith it).

When the Moon is aflicted, then the native may

be behaving unconventionally, so one can expect

the husband to be at the receiving end causing

disruptions in the married Life..

Venus is unfortunateky placed in the Rohini

Nakshatra owned by Moon who is seated in the

badhakasthana. Notice the house of

bed pleasures which is the 12th, Lorded by

Venus, is placed 8th from its own house,

denying actual bed pleasures in the frequency

required by the native.

So though Venus may be well placed

and looking strong it is actually not

giving desired results.

Her speech may be giving her money or not I dont

know, but she is certainly capable of good sarcasm and

the cutting edge, whenever she wishes this on a unsuspecting

Godforsaken victim. The house of speech carries the

influence of both Rahu, Mars,Saturn and Jupiter.

The Husband -

Venus MD till 2012

Venus signifies 2,3,5,6,8,9,10, 7 and 12.

Of these 2 and 7 are good but powerless against the

joint activation of 6,8,9,10 and 12.

9th, we must not forget, is also the badhaksthana.

The 7th lord saturn is in the 6th from its own house,

spoiling the effects of the 7th. It is also connected with

Mars, who is the badhaka Lord. Incidentally,

Mars is debilitated.

The 12th lord of bed pleasures Moon, is placed debilitated in the 4th. Remember that it is also the Lord of denial, and due to its placement in the 4th, it will deny domestic happiness to the native., alongwith no physical comfort.

The Sun is unfortunately clouded by the aspect of Saturn.

But his life will change remarkably better ( Relatively ) when the Sun mahadasha enters his Life.

My comments -

This is an unfortunate match. I do not know how they manage. they seem not to have finished their fights in the last janma, so brought together in this Life, to finish it off.

If given a scale and asked to measure, I would say that both

of them have got equally bad charts, but The Lion here will

be overpowered in a straight fight by the Scorpion, no doubt

about this.

regards/Bhaskar.

, "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear All,> > > I am giving below the birth details of a couple given to me privately with> their consent to discuss their planetary positions regarding husband-wife> relationship.> > Female: 8.5.1954/19.15/Colombo, SL> Male: 17.10.1947/3.10/Horana, SL> > I am encouraged to take it up as we have two parallel threads running on> this topic. I am starting with a very basic discussion of some parameters> for the lady's chart. I invite opinions of learned members on this chart and> discussion on the husband's chart. Incidentally, the lady is scorpio lagna> and the man is leo lagna.> > Although LL and 7L are never friends, there's something more to Leo-scorpio> relationship. I am sure learned members would throw light on that.> > The lady has scorpio lagna with venus in own 7H. That makes the marriage> overall stable. Moon in cancer in 9H in pushya, gives strong religious> inclinations and spiritual advancements.> > But look at the influences on 2-6-10 houses and see how day-to-day conflicts> can crop up and create difficult situations, especially triggered by dashas> and transits.> > 2H has LL Mars in friendly sign. But with rahu and aspected by an exalted> saturn from 12H and its lord jup from 8H. This shows that the native has> much to do with speech and may have a profession connected with speech, but> this same speech also hampers the marital serenity as mars in 8H from 7th is> not in a friendly situation.> > 6H has exalted 10L sun with mercury, aspected by an exalted Saturn. Shows a> career related to law. But at the same time, this being 6H of disputes and> 12H from 7H, it happens at the expense of marriage and professional> compulsions also come into play.> > 10L is in 6H which is good for profession, but not so good for marital> happiness. This position can create difficulties and discords as 10H is> marital happiness and its lord has gone to the 12H of losses.> > Overall, we see a picture of ups and downs where the native may indulge in> verbal disagreements or disputes with her husband. It might be more with> relevant dasha and transit.> > At present, there is transit of ketu over her moon in 9H, and Saturn in 10H> which can disturb the mind and happiness of marriage.> > 9H related dasha/transit is not good for marriage as it is loss of marital> happiness with sudden obstacles/problems (3H from 7th)> > Let us have more on this and husband's chart.> > Regards> Neelam>

October 12, 2008

Namaste Neelam

My personal thoughts re:Sani

would be prominence to its “moolatrikona” sign (Aqu) unless he

occupies Cap. When afflicted will give effects of “negative” House predominantly

….

Best wishes ….

Jai Sita Ram

Ram

On Behalf Of neelamgupta106

12 October 2008 10:26

Subject:

Re: Rahu Kalam - Please read this . Its revealing.

Dear

Bhaskar ji,

//For a Leo person, marital happiness

would be a rarity, unless he has very fortunate combinations in his chart for

the same. This is because Sun having ownership of the 1st house for Leo, and

Saturn having ownership of the 7th house for Leo, are both sworn enemies. Next,

Saturn is also the Lord of the 6th house, which adds to the bitterness in the

marriage, as the 6th house traits are always the cause for incompatibilities,

and if they conjoin with the 12th and 8th, then it is a definite Divorce or

separation.//

What a profound statement and how true!

This brings us to another question…

Why are the luminaries denied

partnerships? The same thing also holds true for Cancer and it is well known

that a cancer native can never get happiness with marriage and relationships.

Here also we see Saturn lording over 7H and 8H. Although 8H is mangalyaa, but

at the same time, 7H is also loss of mangalya.

With it two

consecutive lordships, Saturn always creates situations where it becomes both

giver and destroyer. Does it mean Saturn is the pointer where the native will

face challenges in life?

What happens when Saturn is both lagna lord and 12L? What are the inherent

implications?

How do we assess Saturn then? Which is the house that gains prominence? Is it

the mooltrikon sign that it supports more (7H in leo or 9H in gem).

This is really something to chew and ruminate upon.

Regards

Neelam

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October 12, 2008

Dear Ram Jaiswal ji,Thanks for your comments. I am sure members would find them useful.RegardsNeelam2008/10/12 Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal

Namaste Neelam

My personal thoughts re:Sani

would be prominence to its "moolatrikona" sign (Aqu) unless he

occupies Cap. When afflicted will give effects of "negative" House predominantly

….

Best wishes ….

Jai Sita Ram

Ram

On Behalf Of neelamgupta106

12 October 2008 10:26

Subject:

Re: Rahu Kalam - Please read this . Its revealing.

Dear

Bhaskar ji,

//For a Leo person, marital happiness

would be a rarity, unless he has very fortunate combinations in his chart for

the same. This is because Sun having ownership of the 1st house for Leo, and

Saturn having ownership of the 7th house for Leo, are both sworn enemies. Next,

Saturn is also the Lord of the 6th house, which adds to the bitterness in the

marriage, as the 6th house traits are always the cause for incompatibilities,

and if they conjoin with the 12th and 8th, then it is a definite Divorce or

separation.//

What a profound statement and how true!

This brings us to another question…

Why are the luminaries denied

partnerships? The same thing also holds true for Cancer and it is well known

that a cancer native can never get happiness with marriage and relationships.

Here also we see Saturn lording over 7H and 8H. Although 8H is mangalyaa, but

at the same time, 7H is also loss of mangalya.

With it two

consecutive lordships, Saturn always creates situations where it becomes both

giver and destroyer. Does it mean Saturn is the pointer where the native will

face challenges in life?

What happens when Saturn is both lagna lord and 12L? What are the inherent

implications?

How do we assess Saturn then? Which is the house that gains prominence? Is it

the mooltrikon sign that it supports more (7H in leo or 9H in gem).

This is really something to chew and ruminate upon.

Regards

Neelam

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October 12, 2008

Dear Bhaskar ji,Thank you for sharing your views with the analysis of the two charts. I'll pass it on to the lady in question and get her feedback on this.RegardsNeelam

2008/10/12 Bhaskar <rajiventerprises

The Lady -

In The Ladys chart Sun MD uptil 2013.

The Sun signifies the houses 6, 7,10, and 12.

Of these except for the 7th houses, rest are not

favourable for compatibility. So this Mahadasha

is not very favourable for marriage happiness.

The next MD is of Moon.

Moon signifies 3,4, 9 and 12.

Of these 4 and 12 are not favourable for marriage.

Rest are neutral.

Punarphoo Dosa is there in the chart, due to

Moon in Pushya nakshatra owned by the Moon.

Saturn is aspecting the Moon in the 9th.

Mars is aspecting the Moon in the 9th.

( It also carries Rahus influence alongwith it).

When the Moon is aflicted, then the native may

be behaving unconventionally, so one can expect

the husband to be at the receiving end causing

disruptions in the married Life..

Venus is unfortunateky placed in the Rohini

Nakshatra owned by Moon who is seated in the

badhakasthana. Notice the house of

bed pleasures which is the 12th, Lorded by

Venus, is placed 8th from its own house,

denying actual bed pleasures in the frequency

required by the native.

So though Venus may be well placed

and looking strong it is actually not

giving desired results.

Her speech may be giving her money or not I dont

know, but she is certainly capable of good sarcasm and

the cutting edge, whenever she wishes this on a unsuspecting

Godforsaken victim. The house of speech carries the

influence of both Rahu, Mars,Saturn and Jupiter.

The Husband -

Venus MD till 2012

Venus signifies 2,3,5,6,8,9,10, 7 and 12.

Of these 2 and 7 are good but powerless against the

joint activation of 6,8,9,10 and 12.

9th, we must not forget, is also the badhaksthana.

The 7th lord saturn is in the 6th from its own house,

spoiling the effects of the 7th. It is also connected with

Mars, who is the badhaka Lord. Incidentally,

Mars is debilitated.

The 12th lord of bed pleasures Moon, is placed debilitated in the 4th. Remember that it is also the Lord of denial, and due to its placement in the 4th, it will deny domestic happiness to the native., alongwith no physical comfort.

The Sun is unfortunately clouded by the aspect of Saturn.

But his life will change remarkably better ( Relatively ) when the Sun mahadasha enters his Life.

My comments -

This is an unfortunate match. I do not know how they manage. they seem not to have finished their fights in the last janma, so brought together in this Life, to finish it off.

If given a scale and asked to measure, I would say that both

of them have got equally bad charts, but The Lion here will

be overpowered in a straight fight by the Scorpion, no doubt

about this.

regards/Bhaskar.

, " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear All,

> > > I am giving below the birth details of a couple given to me privately with> their consent to discuss their planetary positions regarding husband-wife> relationship.> > Female: 8.5.1954/19.15/Colombo, SL

> Male: 17.10.1947/3.10/Horana, SL> > I am encouraged to take it up as we have two parallel threads running on> this topic. I am starting with a very basic discussion of some parameters> for the lady's chart. I invite opinions of learned members on this chart and

> discussion on the husband's chart. Incidentally, the lady is scorpio lagna> and the man is leo lagna.> > Although LL and 7L are never friends, there's something more to Leo-scorpio> relationship. I am sure learned members would throw light on that.

> > The lady has scorpio lagna with venus in own 7H. That makes the marriage> overall stable. Moon in cancer in 9H in pushya, gives strong religious> inclinations and spiritual advancements.>

> But look at the influences on 2-6-10 houses and see how day-to-day conflicts> can crop up and create difficult situations, especially triggered by dashas> and transits.> > 2H has LL Mars in friendly sign. But with rahu and aspected by an exalted

> saturn from 12H and its lord jup from 8H. This shows that the native has> much to do with speech and may have a profession connected with speech, but> this same speech also hampers the marital serenity as mars in 8H from 7th is

> not in a friendly situation.> > 6H has exalted 10L sun with mercury, aspected by an exalted Saturn. Shows a> career related to law. But at the same time, this being 6H of disputes and> 12H from 7H, it happens at the expense of marriage and professional

> compulsions also come into play.> > 10L is in 6H which is good for profession, but not so good for marital> happiness. This position can create difficulties and discords as 10H is> marital happiness and its lord has gone to the 12H of losses.

> > Overall, we see a picture of ups and downs where the native may indulge in> verbal disagreements or disputes with her husband. It might be more with> relevant dasha and transit.> > At present, there is transit of ketu over her moon in 9H, and Saturn in 10H

> which can disturb the mind and happiness of marriage.> > 9H related dasha/transit is not good for marriage as it is loss of marital> happiness with sudden obstacles/problems (3H from 7th)>

> Let us have more on this and husband's chart.> > Regards> Neelam>

October 12, 2008

Namaste Bhaskarji

Afraid still learning about Lal Kitab

hence canâ€™t comment though would have thought Merâ€™s House lordships would be equally Â important for

said native re:results given for Mer going into Asc in â€œannual chartâ€?

Wholly agree with your sentiments re:handling of temptations inorder to progress ones spiritual path

â€¦â€¦

Best wishes â€¦â€¦

Jai Sita Ram

Ram

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

12 October 2008 06:36

Subject:

Re: Rahu Kalam - Please read this . Its revealing.

Dear Khuranaji and Jaswalji,

What about those with Mercury in the 11th in the Natal Chart ?

In the 48th year, this Mercury comes to the 1 st House, in the annual

chart.

Does it not make the native wealthy and prosperous in the years 48th,

57th and the 72nd year ?

Some one mentioned " about evil sensous feelings " . I would say that

we

are past such ages of evil intentions coming to our minds, considering

the path of astrology which we are treading, but yes, temptations can be

a plenty for whole Life long, which have to be countered with positive

and dharmic righteousness feelings by any native who has to progress on

the spiritual paths.

regards/Bhaskar.

,

" khurana_satpal "

<khurana_satpal wrote:

>

> Dear Jaswal ji,

>

> What Pt. Gopesh Kumar Ojha ji has said is also said in Lal Kitab. In

> Arun Sanhita on page 241 for ketu the book says " sansar ke kam hal

> karne ke liye, idhar udhar salah karne ke liye daur dhoop ka yah 48

> sala ayu ka samay Ketu ka samay hoga "

>

> Sincerely,

>

> S P Khurana

>

,

" Ram Jaswal "

> rkjaswal@ wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Bhaskarji

> >

> > Thanks for the reply confirming most Ã¢â‚¬Å“commonÃ¢â‚¬Â traits

of Ketu in

> 7th Hse Ã¢â‚¬Â¦Ã¢â‚¬Â¦

> >

> > Per Pundit Gopesh Kumar Ojha KetuÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Ã¢â‚¬Å“great

yearÃ¢â‚¬Â is 48 Ã¢â‚¬ " which you

> have just begun. Again I take Ketu to co-lord Scorpio hence

> affecting your 4th & 7th HseÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Ã¢â‚¬ " please take extra care

regarding

> both during this year Ã¢â‚¬Â¦Ã¢â‚¬Â¦.

> >

> > Re:Pundit Bhooshanji Ã¢â‚¬ " in that group he only answers queries

from

> those seeking help directly and doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t partake in any Lal

Kitab

> discussions. If wishing to discuss then

> join Ã¢â‚¬Å“lalkitab Ã¢â‚¬Â

group.

> >

> > Per Jaimini your AK is Venus hence life lesson is to be a

Ã¢â‚¬Å“clean

> person without any ill thoughts towards fair sex leading a satwik

> lifeÃ¢â‚¬Â whilst your Ista Devata is Ganapati/Skanda as signified

by

> Ketu implying aspirations of Moksha. Your Dharma Devata is

> Shiva/Shri Ram ji Ã¢â‚¬Â¦Ã¢â‚¬Â¦.

> >

> > Best wishes Ã¢â‚¬Â¦Ã¢â‚¬Â¦.

> >

> > Jai Sita Ram

> >

> > Ram

> >

> > _____

> >

>

On Behalf Of

> Bhaskar

> > 11 October 2008 19:07

> >

> > Re: Rahu Kalam - Please read

> this . Its revealing.

> >

> > Dear Ram Jaiswalji,

> >

> > I have already put a query about a year back in Group of Priya

> > Bhooshanji, whic was not about my personal chart, but about some

> > technical confirmations, which did not even eecit a response,

> forget any

> > reply, after that I never visited that Forum ever. But if you

> suggest

> > then I may post a enquiry there one of these days, but I do my

> studies

> > myself on my chart, and do not take whatever anyone says at deep

> level,

> > but just at surface level.

> >

> > About Ketu in my 7th house , I will comment later on, but as per

> lal

> > Kitab, it is supposed to offer favourable results when native

> attains

> > age of 55. And also when the native son attains major age.

> >

> > Yes My wife is very hot tempered, but she is also very religious,

> and

> > whatever she utters, comes our true. If she curses someone it will

> come

> > out true, if she blesses someone it will manifest. She is a stauch

> lover

> > of Hanuman Baba and Shrikrishna, and a daughter from a family of

> > devotees and from a very rich business family . When she

> criticises with

> > her 3 inch tongue even a man of 6 feet will be mowed down like a

> > spineless rubber, and when she praises, then the praise will be

> geuine.

> > She certainly holds respect from all those who come in contact

> with her.

> > This much info. is enough for the moment, about her.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> > ancient_indian_ <%

> 40> astrology ,

" Ram Jaswal "

> > <rkjaswal@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Bhaskarji

> > >

> > > Re:Lal Kitab may I suggest your contacting Pundit Priya

> Bhooshanji of

> > ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã… " @

<%40>

> ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â?

> > >

> > > Personally speaking I feel Ketu is the Graha to be propitiated?

> If I

> > may ask is your wife of a ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã… " short temperÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â as

Ketu in 7th

> > Hse generally denotes this amongst other things? Re:disagreements

> during

> > Rahu Kalam periods I assume generally as opposed from only

> Fridays? Per

> > Vim you are currently in Rahu/Rahu/Mer and Chara Tau/Aqu ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬ "

I

> > consider Rahu as co-lord of Aqu hence understandable 7th Hse focus

> > during said periods ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â¦.

> > >

> > > Best wishes ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â¦..

> > >

> > > Jai Sita Ram

> > >

> > > Ram

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ <%

> 40> astrology

> > [ancient_indian_ <%

> 40> astrology ]

On Behalf Of

> > khurana_satpal

> > > 11 October 2008 13:04

> > > ancient_indian_ <%

> 40> astrology

> > > Re: Rahu Kalam - Please

read

> this

> > . Its revealing.

> > >

> > > Dear Sunil ji,

> > >

> > > I am still a novice as far as the Lal Kitab is concerned.

> Devising

> > > Lal Kitab upaya is a very serious matter and should not be done

> by

> > > beginners like me. Therefore I suggest that Bhaskar ji should

> > > consult some senior Lal Kitab scholar/s. I will not be in a

> position

> > > to suggest any name either.

> > >

> > > Sincerely,

> > >

> > > S P Khurana

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

> ps.com, " sunil nair "

> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hare rama krishna

> > > >

> > > > dear satpal khurana ji ,

> > > >

> > > > many many thanks for giving us Lal kitab perspectivses .I

> always

> > > > wonder always abt any system of indian predictiv systems

will b

> > > > contributing to each other than contradicting each other .

> > > >

> > > > what ever way we look it ,is not a matter of concern wheter

its

> > > > various astrology form s or hand reading or samudrika

> sastra .We

> > > must b

> > > > gr8ful to our ancesters and gr8 rishis for giving us such a

gr8

> > > sciences

> > > > which is helping humanity in general .

> > > >

> > > > Now sir one thing u dont made it clear .U said

" Therefore

> Bhaskar

> > > ji

> > > > will have to do some thing for his Venus in order to

normalize

> the

> > > > situation "

> > > >

> > > > can u suggest remedies what shud b done by bhaskar ji ,so

the

> > > nativ is

> > > > out of this kind of pestering problem tho it is not seems

to b

> big

> > > >

> > > > after all this is for reliving the tension and problems .so

the

> > > remedial

> > > > measures r important . can u suggest tru grp or mail

> > > >

> > > > by the by Bhaskarjis computer is in trouble and his access

is

> > > limited i

> > > > heard frm him yestrday ,so i dont know when he will b

> comfortable

> > > with

> > > > that .

> > > >

> > > > Thank u for trying the chart

> > > >

> > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > >

> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

> ps.com, " khurana_satpal "

> > > > <khurana_satpal@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sunil Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Lal Kitab Perspective:

> > > > >

> > > > > I had been reading with academic interest Bhaskar

jiÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚Â¢s

> > > > > predicament during Rahu Kal. I did look at his problem

with

> the

> > > Lal

> > > > > Kitab perspective.

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar jiÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚Â¢ s contention that Venus

happens to be the

> > main

> > > > > culprit is also borne out through the Lal Kitab.

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar ji is currently in his 48th year. In his 48th

year

> Varsh

> > > Phal

> > > > > chart Venus is placed in the 4th house for which the

Lal

> Kitab

> > > says :

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€¦ " Shukra chauthe jab paani ayaa,

aurat hua

> > bairagÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â when

> > > > > the venus comes to the 4th house , it sets in a

certain

> amount of

> > > > > disenchantment. ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€¦ " aurat hua

bairagÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â can be

> > interpreted

> > > > > both ways : that he gets disenchanted , it can also

mean

> that in

> > > her

> > > > too

> > > > > the fire of passion is no longer as strong.

> > > > >

> > > > > I believe his Rahu Kal predicament would have been

pronounced

> > > after

> > > > June

> > > > > this year and is likely to last till June next year i.e.

> during

> > > his

> > > > > entire 48th year.

> > > > >

> > > > > But why should it happen during the Rahu Kal specially

? The

> Lal

> > > Kitab

> > > > > doesnÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚Â¢t say any thing about it

because in North India

> > specially

> > > > > the hill regions where the Lal Kitab originated from,

Rahu

> Kal

> > > is not

> > > > > much talked about. But in astrological terms Venus and

the

> Rahu

> > > are

> > > > > enemies therefore the adverse effects of venus would

come

> forth

> > > during

> > > > > the period when Rahu is strong, more so during his

Rahu/Rahu

> > > dasha.

> > > > >

> > > > > Therefore Bhaskar ji will have to do some thing for

his

> Venus in

> > > order

> > > > > to normalize the situation.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > >

> > > > > S P Khurana

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

> ps.com, " sunil nair "

> > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hare rama krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear astro surfer ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for ur

views .yes dasa also supports it i hope such

> > > trends

> > > > will

> > > > > > go down after this month .we will get feed backs

frm sri

> > > bhaskar ji

> > > > > for

> > > > > > sure and we can update our undrstanding too .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i blv his sani has some spiritual mission which

rahu is

> > > entrusted

> > > > and

> > > > > > sani being 7th L etc acting tru venus also the

karaka for

> > > neccessary

> > > > > > fire needed for spiritulaity .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > let us wait and i hope other memebrs also will

giv some

> > > opinions

> > > > > >

> > > > > > also i wud lov to hear opinion frm lal kitabies

in grp

> too .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > > >

> > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

> ps.com, " astro.surfer "

> > > > > > astro.surfer@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji, Bhaskar ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Why don't you think that Ketu in 7H is the

real culprit?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rahu and Mars hold the steering, but what is

venus doing

> in

> > > the

> > > > > chart?

> > > > > > > It is the SAARTHI? showing the direction

where the native

> > > will be

> > > > > > > heading. In 9H in LL Sun's constellation.

Lagna rising in

> > > venus

> > > > > star.

> > > > > > > It is very important to understand this

venus as he is

> the

> > > > > > > karma-dharmadhipati. The native will

never be able to

> escape

> > > > venus,

> > > > > > > though he might keep running from it, but it

will always

> > > give good

> > > > > > > things in life, things that native will love

to cherish

> and

> > > keep

> > > > as

> > > > > > > his prized possessions.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Venus is the Atmakarak, the planet to take

him vaitarni

> paar.

> > > > Venus

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > AL

in 9H with and arudh of 9H in 5H of poorv punya. It

> is no

> > > one

> > > > > else

> > > > > > > but a projection of self. Venus is the soul

of this

> chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Venus gives 7 ashtakvarga points aries and 6

in leo. See

> the

> > > > subtle

> > > > > > > root connection with lagna and LL. In

vimsamsh, venus

> takes

> > > charge

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > the wheel with mars and sun in the 7H.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mars, the YK fully energises this venus, who

is in

> martian

> > > sign in

> > > > > D-1

> > > > > > > and aspected by mars in D-9. Rahu, who is

mars

> personified,

> > > is

> > > > fully

> > > > > > > aspecting with a backward glance.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Venus does not fully represent spouse in the

chart, it is

> > > only the

> > > > > > > karak for 7H in 9H. It has no relation with

7H and 7L in

> > > natal

> > > > chart

> > > > > > > as well as D-9, whereas Saturn represents

wife being 7L,

> 7L

> > > in 7H

> > > > in

> > > > > > > navamsha and Dk. It is saturn all the way,

with Jup,

> mars and

> > > > Rahu.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rahu-kaalam impact on wife could be because

ketu is

> there in

> > > 7H in

> > > > > > > dhanishtha. Ketu in 7H is responsible for

unnecessary

> > > disputes

> > > > > between

> > > > > > > partners and causes disillusion and

misunderstandings.

> So in

> > > > > > > rahu-kaalam, this can surface more. Where as

being in 9H,

> > > venus

> > > > will

> > > > > > > promote religious affairs and it made him do

durga

> > > saptashati in

> > > > > rahu

> > > > > > > kalam. The fault lies with ketu, not venus.

Also sun and

> > > > retrograde

> > > > > > > mercury in Rahu's nakshatra in 2H from AK

and Karkamsh,

> can

> > > make

> > > > him

> > > > > > > say unpleasant things in rahu-kaalam,

especially dasha

> and

> > > antar

> > > > > > > supporting.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What are the impulses that this venus gives?

Venus the

> > > primordial

> > > > > > > shakti, venus the ardhnaareeshwar in the

chart, his own

> other

> > > > self.

> > > > > > > Venus is in sagitarius in navamsh, the

natural 9H again.

> This

> > > > venus

> > > > > > > relates to dharma.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What is it that he would like from the

bottom of his

> heart?

> > > What

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > be the innermost urges? I am sure it is all

possible

> combined

> > > > > > > significations of venus in 9H.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please correct me if I am wrong in my

understanding. I am

> > > only a

> > > > > > learner.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Best regards

> > > > > > > Astrosurfer

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

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October 12, 2008

Dear Neelam ji,

This is interesing.

As lagna Lord and as 12th Lord, Saturn will give more effects of the 1st house, because it has got additional powers and status here,

due to dual Ownership, as both a Kendra lord and a Kona Lord.

The same principle I would apply for the Cancer nativity.

The Luminiaries may be denied partnership because they are so strong in their charactersistics that for another to remain within their confines may mean, a total loss of their identities and merging of same, which may not be allowed by the law of nature.

We have heard about the story of Chhaya related to the Sun God, why it took place.

Saturn is of course the giver and destroyer as we know

through the story of Raja Harishchandra and Vikramaditya.

Any show of pride, pomp, cruelty, debauchery etc, would be

crushed by the dawn of Saturn entering as a Dasha Lord.

Remember that Jupiters dasha is followed by Saturn. If the

native spends his time in Jupiter, just in merriment,

eating, drinking and enjoying, with no place for theother

good aspects of Life, Saturn is there to follow, and will

show him the ground and make him humble as a pie. It

will watch silently what one does when Jupiter gives in

abundance, and how the native makes use of this abundance, and when it comes in power, it will strike. Remember that it will strike the least to a pious and humble man given to hard work, honesty and a proper way of living.

Saturn is also the planet who gives challenge which every man must take upon him as his duty - Karmas. Saturn is the Lord of the 10th House of Karma in the natural chart.

It also gives in great measures when happy with the above Karmas which man does in his Life, becausehe is also theLord of the 11th House of gains, in this same natural chart.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

, "neelamgupta106" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar ji,> > //For a Leo person, marital happiness would be a rarity, unless he has> very fortunate combinations in his chart for the same. This is because> Sun having ownership of the 1st house for Leo, and Saturn having> ownership of the 7th house for Leo, are both sworn enemies. Next, Saturn> is also the Lord of the 6th house, which adds to the bitterness in the> marriage, as the 6th house traits are always the cause for> incompatibilities, and if they conjoin with the 12th and 8th, then it is> a definite Divorce or separation.//> > What a profound statement and how true!> > This brings us to another question…> > Why are the luminaries denied partnerships? The same thing also holds> true for Cancer and it is well known that a cancer native can never get> happiness with marriage and relationships. Here also we see Saturn> lording over 7H and 8H. Although 8H is mangalyaa, but at the same time,> 7H is also loss of mangalya.> > With it two consecutive lordships, Saturn always creates situations> where it becomes both giver and destroyer. Does it mean Saturn is the> pointer where the native will face challenges in life?> > What happens when Saturn is both lagna lord and 12L? What are the> inherent implications?> > How do we assess Saturn then? Which is the house that gains prominence?> Is it the mooltrikon sign that it supports more (7H in leo or 9H in> gem).> > This is really something to chew and ruminate upon.> > Regards> Neelam>

October 12, 2008

Dear Bhaskar ji,

I can but only agree with your revelations and thanks for the same.

// He said that for a Leo person, marital happiness would be a rarity,

unles he has very fortunate combinations in his chart for the same //

I've noticed this in quite a few Leo natives, though I don't have their

charts with me. Either their marriages are in jeopardy or they are

divorced, separated, widowed etc.

But there may be exceptions...

I know a young couple who got married 2 years ago, Leo husband and

Scorpio wife,......so far everything is a smooth sail for them. The

husband is very caring and loving, and now the family is complete with a

baby girl. I've got only the chart of the husband with me. If anybody

is interested, in the Leo- Scorpio duel...sorry dual, let me give the

horoscope of the husband. I will try to get the wife's chart if

possible.

6th September 1979 @ 6.06 AM in Kent, UK.

blessings

Renu

, " Bhaskar "

<rajiventerprises wrote:

>

> Dear Renuji,

>

> You have also taken up a good observation.

>

> As students our astrology class was also party to many off beat

> discussions apart from our syllabus. I remember vividly one of my

> Professors who is now a old man and a experienced astrologer both in

> Sayana and Nirayana.

>

> He said that for a Leo person, marital happiness would be a rarity,

> unles he has very fortunate combinations in his chart for the same.

This

> is because Sun having ownership of the 1st house for Leo, and Saturn

> having ownership of the 7th house for Leo, are both sworn enemies.

Next,

> Saturn is also the Lord of the 6th house, which adds to the bitterness

> in the marriage, as the 6th house traits are always the cause for

> incompatibilities, and if they conjoin with the 12th and 8th, then it

is

> a definite Divorce or seperation.

>

> A Leo nativity can suppress all the other natives bearing all

ascendants

> except for Scorpio.

>

> A Scorpio nativity can suppress all the other natives bearing all

> ascendants, except Leo.

>

> So here we have the clash of Titans , whenever the clash takes place

it

> would be a enjoyable scene for the neighbours.

>

> In our case we both have strong Mars in our lagnas, so when we enter

> into a clash, anybody else coming in the firing range would be

clobbered

> mercilessly.

>

> That is something to chew upon, this Sunday.

>

> Enjoy,

>

> Bhaskar.

> , " renunw " renunw@

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> >

> > Thanks for commencing an interesting and educative discussion. I was

> > keenly attentive throughout the discussion, for a good reason too.

> > Leo husband + Scorpion wife is something personal to me, and seems

> > to create problems during the current planetary movements.... or is

> > it inherent in their nature?

> >

> > I am not surprised of your wife's 'hot temper and religious

> > inclination', both traits will go hand in hand quite

> > comfortably.....I would say this is the 'true Scorpion spirit'.

> >

> > blessings,

> >

> > Renu

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

> > rajiventerprises@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ram Jaiswalji,

> > >

> > > I have already put a query about a year back in Group of Priya

> > > Bhooshanji, whic was not about my personal chart, but about some

> > > technical confirmations, which did not even eecit a response,

> > forget any

> > > reply, after that I never visited that Forum ever. But if you

> > suggest

> > > then I may post a enquiry there one of these days, but I do my

> > studies

> > > myself on my chart, and do not take whatever anyone says at deep

> > level,

> > > but just at surface level.

> > >

> > > About Ketu in my 7th house , I will comment later on, but as per

> > lal

> > > Kitab, it is supposed to offer favourable results when native

> > attains

> > > age of 55. And also when the native son attains major age.

> > >

> > > Yes Mytempered, but she wife is very hot is also very religious,

> > and

> > > whatever she utters, comes our true. If she curses someone it will

> > come

> > > out true, if she blesses someone it will manifest. She is a stauch

> > lover

> > > of Hanuman Baba and Shrikrishna, and a daughter from a family of

> > > devotees and from a very rich business family . When she

> > criticises with

> > > her 3 inch tongue even a man of 6 feet will be mowed down like a

> > > spineless rubber, and when she praises, then the praise will be

> > geuine.

> > > She certainly holds respect from all those who come in contact

> > with her.

> > > This much info. is enough for the moment, about her.

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , " Ram Jaswal "

> > > <rkjaswal@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Bhaskarji

> > > >

> > > > Re:Lal Kitab may I suggest your contacting Pundit Priya

> > Bhooshanji of

> > > â€œ â€?

> > > >

> > > > Personally speaking I feel Ketu is the Graha to be propitiated?

> > If I

> > > may ask is your wife of a â€œshort temperâ€ as Ketu in

> 7th

> > > Hse generally denotes this amongst other things? Re:disagreements

> > during

> > > Rahu Kalam periods I assume generally as opposed from only

> > Fridays? Per

> > > Vim you are currently in Rahu/Rahu/Mer and Chara Tau/Aqu â€ " I

> > > consider Rahu as co-lord of Aqu hence understandable 7th Hse focus

> > > during said periods â€¦.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes â€¦..

> > > >

> > > > Jai Sita Ram

> > > >

> > > > Ram

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > On Behalf Of

> > > khurana_satpal

> > > > 11 October 2008 13:04

> > > >

> > > > Re: Rahu Kalam - Please read

> > this

> > > . Its revealing.

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sunil ji,

> > > >

> > > > I am still a novice as far as the Lal Kitab is concerned.

> > Devising

> > > > Lal Kitab upaya is a very serious matter and should not be done

> > by

> > > > beginners like me. Therefore I suggest that Bhaskar ji should

> > > > consult some senior Lal Kitab scholar/s. I will not be in a

> > position

> > > > to suggest any name either.

> > > >

> > > > Sincerely,

> > > >

> > > > S P Khurana

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > astrology , " sunil nair "

> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hare rama krishna

> > > > >

> > > > > dear satpal khurana ji ,

> > > > >

> > > > > many many thanks for giving us Lal kitab perspectivses .I

> > always

> > > > > wonder always abt any system of indian predictiv systems will

b

> > > > > contributing to each other than contradicting each other .

> > > > >

> > > > > what ever way we look it ,is not a matter of concern wheter

its

> > > > > various astrology form s or hand reading or samudrika

> > sastra .We

> > > > must b

> > > > > gr8ful to our ancesters and gr8 rishis for giving us such a

gr8

> > > > sciences

> > > > > which is helping humanity in general .

> > > > >

> > > > > Now sir one thing u dont made it clear .U said " Therefore

> > Bhaskar

> > > > ji

> > > > > will have to do some thing for his Venus in order to normalize

> > the

> > > > > situation "

> > > > >

> > > > > can u suggest remedies what shud b done by bhaskar ji ,so the

> > > > nativ is

> > > > > out of this kind of pestering problem tho it is not seems to b

> > big

> > > > >

> > > > > after all this is for reliving the tension and problems .so

the

> > > > remedial

> > > > > measures r important . can u suggest tru grp or mail

> > > > >

> > > > > by the by Bhaskarjis computer is in trouble and his access is

> > > > limited i

> > > > > heard frm him yestrday ,so i dont know when he will b

> > comfortable

> > > > with

> > > > > that .

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank u for trying the chart

> > > > >

> > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > >

> > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > astrology , " khurana_satpal "

> > > > > <khurana_satpal@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sunil Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lal Kitab Perspective:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I had been reading with academic interest Bhaskar

> jiÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s

> > > > > > predicament during Rahu Kal. I did look at his problem with

> > the

> > > > Lal

> > > > > > Kitab perspective.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar jiÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ s contention that Venus happens to

be

> the

> > > main

> > > > > > culprit is also borne out through the Lal Kitab.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar ji is currently in his 48th year. In his 48th year

> > Varsh

> > > > Phal

> > > > > > chart Venus is placed in the 4th house for which the Lal

> > Kitab

> > > > says :

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ã¢â‚¬Å " Shukra chauthe jab paani ayaa, aurat hua

> > > bairagÃ¢â‚¬Â when

> > > > > > the venus comes to the 4th house , it sets in a certain

> > amount of

> > > > > > disenchantment. Ã¢â‚¬Å " aurat hua bairagÃ¢â‚¬Â can

> be

> > > interpreted

> > > > > > both ways : that he gets disenchanted , it can also mean

> > that in

> > > > her

> > > > > too

> > > > > > the fire of passion is no longer as strong.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I believe his Rahu Kal predicament would have been

pronounced

> > > > after

> > > > > June

> > > > > > this year and is likely to last till June next year i.e.

> > during

> > > > his

> > > > > > entire 48th year.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But why should it happen during the Rahu Kal specially ? The

> > Lal

> > > > Kitab

> > > > > > doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t say any thing about it because in North

> India

> > > specially

> > > > > > the hill regions where the Lal Kitab originated from, Rahu

> > Kal

> > > > is not

> > > > > > much talked about. But in astrological terms Venus and the

> > Rahu

> > > > are

> > > > > > enemies therefore the adverse effects of venus would come

> > forth

> > > > during

> > > > > > the period when Rahu is strong, more so during his Rahu/Rahu

> > > > dasha.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Therefore Bhaskar ji will have to do some thing for his

> > Venus in

> > > > order

> > > > > > to normalize the situation.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > S P Khurana

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > astrology , " sunil nair "

> > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hare rama krishna

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dear astro surfer ji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for ur views .yes dasa also supports it i hope such

> > > > trends

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > go down after this month .we will get feed backs frm sri

> > > > bhaskar ji

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > sure and we can update our undrstanding too .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i blv his sani has some spiritual mission which rahu is

> > > > entrusted

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > sani being 7th L etc acting tru venus also the karaka for

> > > > neccessary

> > > > > > > fire needed for spiritulaity .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > let us wait and i hope other memebrs also will giv some

> > > > opinions

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > also i wud lov to hear opinion frm lal kitabies in grp

> > too .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > astrology , " astro.surfer "

> > > > > > > astro.surfer@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji, Bhaskar ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Why don't you think that Ketu in 7H is the real culprit?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rahu and Mars hold the steering, but what is venus doing

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > > chart?

> > > > > > > > It is the SAARTHI? showing the direction where the

native

> > > > will be

> > > > > > > > heading. In 9H in LL Sun's constellation. Lagna rising

in

> > > > venus

> > > > > > star.

> > > > > > > > It is very important to understand this venus as he is

> > the

> > > > > > > > karma-dharmadhipati. The native will never be able to

> > escape

> > > > > venus,

> > > > > > > > though he might keep running from it, but it will always

> > > > give good

> > > > > > > > things in life, things that native will love to cherish

> > and

> > > > keep

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > > his prized possessions.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Venus is the Atmakarak, the planet to take him vaitarni

> > paar.

> > > > > Venus

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > AL in 9H with and arudh of 9H in 5H of poorv punya. It

> > is no

> > > > one

> > > > > > else

> > > > > > > > but a projection of self. Venus is the soul of this

> > chart.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Venus gives 7 ashtakvarga points aries and 6 in leo. See

> > the

> > > > > subtle

> > > > > > > > root connection with lagna and LL. In vimsamsh, venus

> > takes

> > > > charge

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > the wheel with mars and sun in the 7H.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mars, the YK fully energises this venus, who is in

> > martian

> > > > sign in

> > > > > > D-1

> > > > > > > > and aspected by mars in D-9. Rahu, who is mars

> > personified,

> > > > is

> > > > > fully

> > > > > > > > aspecting with a backward glance.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Venus does not fully represent spouse in the chart, it

is

> > > > only the

> > > > > > > > karak for 7H in 9H. It has no relation with 7H and 7L in

> > > > natal

> > > > > chart

> > > > > > > > as well as D-9, whereas Saturn represents wife being 7L,

> > 7L

> > > > in 7H

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > navamsha and Dk. It is saturn all the way, with Jup,

> > mars and

> > > > > Rahu.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rahu-kaalam impact on wife could be because ketu is

> > there in

> > > > 7H in

> > > > > > > > dhanishtha. Ketu in 7H is responsible for unnecessary

> > > > disputes

> > > > > > between

> > > > > > > > partners and causes disillusion and misunderstandings.

> > So in

> > > > > > > > rahu-kaalam, this can surface more. Where as being in

9H,

> > > > venus

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > > promote religious affairs and it made him do durga

> > > > saptashati in

> > > > > > rahu

> > > > > > > > kalam. The fault lies with ketu, not venus. Also sun and

> > > > > retrograde

> > > > > > > > mercury in Rahu's nakshatra in 2H from AK and Karkamsh,

> > can

> > > > make

> > > > > him

> > > > > > > > say unpleasant things in rahu-kaalam, especially dasha

> > and

> > > > antar

> > > > > > > > supporting.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What are the impulses that this venus gives? Venus the

> > > > primordial

> > > > > > > > shakti, venus the ardhnaareeshwar in the chart, his own

> > other

> > > > > self.

> > > > > > > > Venus is in sagitarius in navamsh, the natural 9H again.

> > This

> > > > > venus

> > > > > > > > relates to dharma.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What is it that he would like from the bottom of his

> > heart?

> > > > What

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > be the innermost urges? I am sure it is all possible

> > combined

> > > > > > > > significations of venus in 9H.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please correct me if I am wrong in my understanding. I

am

> > > > only a

> > > > > > > learner.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Best regards

> > > > > > > > Astrosurfer

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

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> > > > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1719 - Release Date:

> > > 10/10/2008 4:08 PM

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

October 12, 2008

Pushya is owned by Saturn

Bhaskar

Sunday, October 12, 2008 3:26 PM

Re: Rahu Kalam - Please read this . Its revealing.

The Lady -

In The Ladys chart Sun MD uptil 2013.

The Sun signifies the houses 6, 7,10, and 12.

Of these except for the 7th houses, rest are not

favourable for compatibility. So this Mahadasha

is not very favourable for marriage happiness.

The next MD is of Moon.

Moon signifies 3,4, 9 and 12.

Of these 4 and 12 are not favourable for marriage.

Rest are neutral.

Punarphoo Dosa is there in the chart, due to

Moon in Pushya nakshatra owned by the Moon.

Saturn is aspecting the Moon in the 9th.

Mars is aspecting the Moon in the 9th.

( It also carries Rahus influence alongwith it).

When the Moon is aflicted, then the native may

be behaving unconventionally, so one can expect

the husband to be at the receiving end causing

disruptions in the married Life..

Venus is unfortunateky placed in the Rohini

Nakshatra owned by Moon who is seated in the

badhakasthana. Notice the house of

bed pleasures which is the 12th, Lorded by

Venus, is placed 8th from its own house,

denying actual bed pleasures in the frequency

required by the native.

So though Venus may be well placed

and looking strong it is actually not

giving desired results.

Her speech may be giving her money or not I dont

know, but she is certainly capable of good sarcasm and

the cutting edge, whenever she wishes this on a unsuspecting

Godforsaken victim. The house of speech carries the

influence of both Rahu, Mars,Saturn and Jupiter.

The Husband -

Venus MD till 2012

Venus signifies 2,3,5,6,8,9,10, 7 and 12.

Of these 2 and 7 are good but powerless against the

joint activation of 6,8,9,10 and 12.

9th, we must not forget, is also the badhaksthana.

The 7th lord saturn is in the 6th from its own house,

spoiling the effects of the 7th. It is also connected with

Mars, who is the badhaka Lord. Incidentally,

Mars is debilitated.

The 12th lord of bed pleasures Moon, is placed debilitated in the 4th. Remember that it is also the Lord of denial, and due to its placement in the 4th, it will deny domestic happiness to the native., alongwith no physical comfort.

The Sun is unfortunately clouded by the aspect of Saturn.

But his life will change remarkably better ( Relatively ) when the Sun mahadasha enters his Life.

My comments -

This is an unfortunate match. I do not know how they manage. they seem not to have finished their fights in the last janma, so brought together in this Life, to finish it off.

If given a scale and asked to measure, I would say that both

of them have got equally bad charts, but The Lion here will

be overpowered in a straight fight by the Scorpion, no doubt

about this.

regards/Bhaskar.

, "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear All,> > > I am giving below the birth details of a couple given to me privately with> their consent to discuss their planetary positions regarding husband-wife> relationship.> > Female: 8.5.1954/19.15/Colombo, SL> Male: 17.10.1947/3.10/Horana, SL> > I am encouraged to take it up as we have two parallel threads running on> this topic. I am starting with a very basic discussion of some parameters> for the lady's chart. I invite opinions of learned members on this chart and> discussion on the husband's chart. Incidentally, the lady is scorpio lagna> and the man is leo lagna.> > Although LL and 7L are never friends, there's something more to Leo-scorpio> relationship. I am sure learned members would throw light on that.> > The lady has scorpio lagna with venus in own 7H. That makes the marriage> overall stable. Moon in cancer in 9H in pushya, gives strong religious> inclinations and spiritual advancements.> > But look at the influences on 2-6-10 houses and see how day-to-day conflicts> can crop up and create difficult situations, especially triggered by dashas> and transits.> > 2H has LL Mars in friendly sign. But with rahu and aspected by an exalted> saturn from 12H and its lord jup from 8H. This shows that the native has> much to do with speech and may have a profession connected with speech, but> this same speech also hampers the marital serenity as mars in 8H from 7th is> not in a friendly situation.> > 6H has exalted 10L sun with mercury, aspected by an exalted Saturn. Shows a> career related to law. But at the same time, this being 6H of disputes and> 12H from 7H, it happens at the expense of marriage and professional> compulsions also come into play.> > 10L is in 6H which is good for profession, but not so good for marital> happiness. This position can create difficulties and discords as 10H is> marital happiness and its lord has gone to the 12H of losses.> > Overall, we see a picture of ups and downs where the native may indulge in> verbal disagreements or disputes with her husband. It might be more with> relevant dasha and transit.> > At present, there is transit of ketu over her moon in 9H, and Saturn in 10H> which can disturb the mind and happiness of marriage.> > 9H related dasha/transit is not good for marriage as it is loss of marital> happiness with sudden obstacles/problems (3H from 7th)> > Let us have more on this and husband's chart.> > Regards> Neelam>

October 12, 2008

Dear Jaswalji,

But Lordships are not taken in account, in Lal kitab, except for natural

houses . ( For instance Saturn is the planet which is supposed to do

well in the 10th , but Jupiter here would prove problematic as per Lal

kitab . They would consider this house as a debilitated house for

Lalkitab even if the sign is Sagittarius in the natal Vedic chart. Same

way the first house is the natural house for the Sun as per lal Kitab

even if it turns out to be Libra in the Natal Chart).

Even if you consider the Lordship for Mercury, for this native, it is

Lord of the 2nd and the 11th House for the native.

Even if you do not consider Lordships, or even the annual chart, Just

Mercury in Lagna is good for financial gains in business or profession.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, " Ram Jaswal "

<rkjaswal wrote:

>

> Namaste Bhaskarji

>

> Afraid still learning about Lal Kitab hence canâ€™t comment

though would have thought Merâ€™s House lordships would be equally

important for said native re:results given for Mer going into Asc in

â€œannual chartâ€?

>

> Wholly agree with your sentiments re:handling of temptations inorder

to progress ones spiritual path â€¦â€¦

>

> Best wishes â€¦â€¦

>

> Jai Sita Ram

>

> Ram

>

> _____

>

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> 12 October 2008 06:36

>

> Re: Rahu Kalam - Please read this

.. Its revealing.

>

> Dear Khuranaji and Jaswalji,

>

> What about those with Mercury in the 11th in the Natal Chart ?

>

> In the 48th year, this Mercury comes to the 1 st House, in the annual

> chart.

>

> Does it not make the native wealthy and prosperous in the years 48th,

> 57th and the 72nd year ?

>

> Some one mentioned " about evil sensous feelings " . I would say that

we

> are past such ages of evil intentions coming to our minds, considering

> the path of astrology which we are treading, but yes, temptations can

be

> a plenty for whole Life long, which have to be countered with positive

> and dharmic righteousness feelings by any native who has to progress

on

> the spiritual paths.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

> ancient_indian_

<%40>

astrology , " khurana_satpal "

> khurana_satpal@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jaswal ji,

> >

> > What Pt. Gopesh Kumar Ojha ji has said is also said in Lal Kitab. In

> > Arun Sanhita on page 241 for ketu the book says " sansar ke kam hal

> > karne ke liye, idhar udhar salah karne ke liye daur dhoop ka yah 48

> > sala ayu ka samay Ketu ka samay hoga "

> >

> > Sincerely,

> >

> > S P Khurana

> >

> > ancient_indian_

<%40>

astrology , " Ram Jaswal "

> > rkjaswal@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Bhaskarji

> > >

> > > Thanks for the reply confirming most

Ã¢â‚¬Å " commonÃ¢â‚¬Â traits

> of Ketu in

> > 7th Hse Ã¢â‚¬Â¦Ã¢â‚¬Â¦

> > >

> > > Per Pundit Gopesh Kumar Ojha KetuÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Ã¢â‚¬Å " great

> yearÃ¢â‚¬Â is 48 Ã¢â‚¬ " which you

> > have just begun. Again I take Ketu to co-lord Scorpio hence

> > affecting your 4th & 7th HseÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Ã¢â‚¬ " please take

extra care

> regarding

> > both during this year Ã¢â‚¬Â¦Ã¢â‚¬Â¦.

> > >

> > > Re:Pundit Bhooshanji Ã¢â‚¬ " in that group he only answers

queries

> from

> > those seeking help directly and doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t partake in any

Lal

> Kitab

> > discussions. If wishing to discuss then

> > join Ã¢â‚¬Å " lalkitab@

<lalkitab%40> s.comÃ¢â‚¬Â group.

> > >

> > > Per Jaimini your AK is Venus hence life lesson is to be a

> Ã¢â‚¬Å " clean

> > person without any ill thoughts towards fair sex leading a satwik

> > lifeÃ¢â‚¬Â whilst your Ista Devata is Ganapati/Skanda as

signified

> by

> > Ketu implying aspirations of Moksha. Your Dharma Devata is

> > Shiva/Shri Ram ji Ã¢â‚¬Â¦Ã¢â‚¬Â¦.

> > >

> > > Best wishes Ã¢â‚¬Â¦Ã¢â‚¬Â¦.

> > >

> > > Jai Sita Ram

> > >

> > > Ram

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_

<%40>

astrology

> > [ancient_indian_

<%40>

astrology ] On Behalf Of

> > Bhaskar

> > > 11 October 2008 19:07

> > > ancient_indian_

<%40>

astrology

> > > Re: Rahu Kalam - Please read

> > this . Its revealing.

> > >

> > > Dear Ram Jaiswalji,

> > >

> > > I have already put a query about a year back in Group of Priya

> > > Bhooshanji, whic was not about my personal chart, but about some

> > > technical confirmations, which did not even eecit a response,

> > forget any

> > > reply, after that I never visited that Forum ever. But if you

> > suggest

> > > then I may post a enquiry there one of these days, but I do my

> > studies

> > > myself on my chart, and do not take whatever anyone says at deep

> > level,

> > > but just at surface level.

> > >

> > > About Ketu in my 7th house , I will comment later on, but as per

> > lal

> > > Kitab, it is supposed to offer favourable results when native

> > attains

> > > age of 55. And also when the native son attains major age.

> > >

> > > Yes My wife is very hot tempered, but she is also very religious,

> > and

> > > whatever she utters, comes our true. If she curses someone it will

> > come

> > > out true, if she blesses someone it will manifest. She is a stauch

> > lover

> > > of Hanuman Baba and Shrikrishna, and a daughter from a family of

> > > devotees and from a very rich business family . When she

> > criticises with

> > > her 3 inch tongue even a man of 6 feet will be mowed down like a

> > > spineless rubber, and when she praises, then the praise will be

> > geuine.

> > > She certainly holds respect from all those who come in contact

> > with her.

> > > This much info. is enough for the moment, about her.

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ <%

> > 40> astrology@grou

<astrology%40> ps.com, " Ram Jaswal "

> > > <rkjaswal@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Bhaskarji

> > > >

> > > > Re:Lal Kitab may I suggest your contacting Pundit Priya

> > Bhooshanji of

> > > ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã… " @

> <%40>

> > ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â?

> > > >

> > > > Personally speaking I feel Ketu is the Graha to be propitiated?

> > If I

> > > may ask is your wife of a ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã… " short

temperÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â as

> Ketu in 7th

> > > Hse generally denotes this amongst other things? Re:disagreements

> > during

> > > Rahu Kalam periods I assume generally as opposed from only

> > Fridays? Per

> > > Vim you are currently in Rahu/Rahu/Mer and Chara Tau/Aqu

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬ "

> I

> > > consider Rahu as co-lord of Aqu hence understandable 7th Hse focus

> > > during said periods ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â¦.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â¦..

> > > >

> > > > Jai Sita Ram

> > > >

> > > > Ram

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ <%

> > 40> astrology@grou

<astrology%40> ps.com

> > > [ancient_indian_ <%

> > 40> astrology@grou

<astrology%40> ps.com] On Behalf Of

> > > khurana_satpal

> > > > 11 October 2008 13:04

> > > > ancient_indian_ <%

> > 40> astrology@grou

<astrology%40> ps.com

> > > > Re: Rahu Kalam - Please read

> > this

> > > . Its revealing.

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sunil ji,

> > > >

> > > > I am still a novice as far as the Lal Kitab is concerned.

> > Devising

> > > > Lal Kitab upaya is a very serious matter and should not be done

> > by

> > > > beginners like me. Therefore I suggest that Bhaskar ji should

> > > > consult some senior Lal Kitab scholar/s. I will not be in a

> > position

> > > > to suggest any name either.

> > > >

> > > > Sincerely,

> > > >

> > > > S P Khurana

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

> > ps.com, " sunil nair "

> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hare rama krishna

> > > > >

> > > > > dear satpal khurana ji ,

> > > > >

> > > > > many many thanks for giving us Lal kitab perspectivses .I

> > always

> > > > > wonder always abt any system of indian predictiv systems will

b

> > > > > contributing to each other than contradicting each other .

> > > > >

> > > > > what ever way we look it ,is not a matter of concern wheter

its

> > > > > various astrology form s or hand reading or samudrika

> > sastra .We

> > > > must b

> > > > > gr8ful to our ancesters and gr8 rishis for giving us such a

gr8

> > > > sciences

> > > > > which is helping humanity in general .

> > > > >

> > > > > Now sir one thing u dont made it clear .U said " Therefore

> > Bhaskar

> > > > ji

> > > > > will have to do some thing for his Venus in order to normalize

> > the

> > > > > situation "

> > > > >

> > > > > can u suggest remedies what shud b done by bhaskar ji ,so the

> > > > nativ is

> > > > > out of this kind of pestering problem tho it is not seems to b

> > big

> > > > >

> > > > > after all this is for reliving the tension and problems .so

the

> > > > remedial

> > > > > measures r important . can u suggest tru grp or mail

> > > > >

> > > > > by the by Bhaskarjis computer is in trouble and his access is

> > > > limited i

> > > > > heard frm him yestrday ,so i dont know when he will b

> > comfortable

> > > > with

> > > > > that .

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank u for trying the chart

> > > > >

> > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > >

> > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

> > ps.com, " khurana_satpal "

> > > > > <khurana_satpal@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sunil Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lal Kitab Perspective:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I had been reading with academic interest Bhaskar

> jiÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚Â¢s

> > > > > > predicament during Rahu Kal. I did look at his problem with

> > the

> > > > Lal

> > > > > > Kitab perspective.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar jiÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚Â¢

s contention that Venus

> happens to be the

> > > main

> > > > > > culprit is also borne out through the Lal Kitab.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar ji is currently in his 48th year. In his 48th year

> > Varsh

> > > > Phal

> > > > > > chart Venus is placed in the 4th house for which the Lal

> > Kitab

> > > > says :

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€¦ " Shukra chauthe jab

paani ayaa, aurat hua

> > > bairagÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â when

> > > > > > the venus comes to the 4th house , it sets in a certain

> > amount of

> > > > > > disenchantment. ÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€¦ "

aurat hua

> bairagÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â can be

> > > interpreted

> > > > > > both ways : that he gets disenchanted , it can also mean

> > that in

> > > > her

> > > > > too

> > > > > > the fire of passion is no longer as strong.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I believe his Rahu Kal predicament would have been

pronounced

> > > > after

> > > > > June

> > > > > > this year and is likely to last till June next year i.e.

> > during

> > > > his

> > > > > > entire 48th year.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But why should it happen during the Rahu Kal specially ? The

> > Lal

> > > > Kitab

> > > > > > doesnÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚Â¢t say

any thing about it

> because in North India

> > > specially

> > > > > > the hill regions where the Lal Kitab originated from, Rahu

> > Kal

> > > > is not

> > > > > > much talked about. But in astrological terms Venus and the

> > Rahu

> > > > are

> > > > > > enemies therefore the adverse effects of venus would come

> > forth

> > > > during

> > > > > > the period when Rahu is strong, more so during his Rahu/Rahu

> > > > dasha.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Therefore Bhaskar ji will have to do some thing for his

> > Venus in

> > > > order

> > > > > > to normalize the situation.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > S P Khurana

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

> > ps.com, " sunil nair "

> > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hare rama krishna

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dear astro surfer ji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for ur views .yes dasa also supports it i hope such

> > > > trends

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > go down after this month .we will get feed backs frm sri

> > > > bhaskar ji

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > sure and we can update our undrstanding too .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i blv his sani has some spiritual mission which rahu is

> > > > entrusted

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > sani being 7th L etc acting tru venus also the karaka for

> > > > neccessary

> > > > > > > fire needed for spiritulaity .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > let us wait and i hope other memebrs also will giv some

> > > > opinions

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > also i wud lov to hear opinion frm lal kitabies in grp

> > too .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

> > ps.com, " astro.surfer "

> > > > > > > astro.surfer@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji, Bhaskar ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Why don't you think that Ketu in 7H is the real culprit?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rahu and Mars hold the steering, but what is venus doing

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > > chart?

> > > > > > > > It is the SAARTHI? showing the direction where the

native

> > > > will be

> > > > > > > > heading. In 9H in LL Sun's constellation. Lagna rising

in

> > > > venus

> > > > > > star.

> > > > > > > > It is very important to understand this venus as he is

> > the

> > > > > > > > karma-dharmadhipati. The native will never be able to

> > escape

> > > > > venus,

> > > > > > > > though he might keep running from it, but it will always

> > > > give good

> > > > > > > > things in life, things that native will love to cherish

> > and

> > > > keep

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > > his prized possessions.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Venus is the Atmakarak, the planet to take him vaitarni

> > paar.

> > > > > Venus

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > AL in 9H with and arudh of 9H in 5H of poorv punya. It

> > is no

> > > > one

> > > > > > else

> > > > > > > > but a projection of self. Venus is the soul of this

> > chart.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Venus gives 7 ashtakvarga points aries and 6 in leo. See

> > the

> > > > > subtle

> > > > > > > > root connection with lagna and LL. In vimsamsh, venus

> > takes

> > > > charge

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > the wheel with mars and sun in the 7H.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mars, the YK fully energises this venus, who is in

> > martian

> > > > sign in

> > > > > > D-1

> > > > > > > > and aspected by mars in D-9. Rahu, who is mars

> > personified,

> > > > is

> > > > > fully

> > > > > > > > aspecting with a backward glance.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Venus does not fully represent spouse in the chart, it

is

> > > > only the

> > > > > > > > karak for 7H in 9H. It has no relation with 7H and 7L in

> > > > natal

> > > > > chart

> > > > > > > > as well as D-9, whereas Saturn represents wife being 7L,

> > 7L

> > > > in 7H

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > navamsha and Dk. It is saturn all the way, with Jup,

> > mars and

> > > > > Rahu.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rahu-kaalam impact on wife could be because ketu is

> > there in

> > > > 7H in

> > > > > > > > dhanishtha. Ketu in 7H is responsible for unnecessary

> > > > disputes

> > > > > > between

> > > > > > > > partners and causes disillusion and misunderstandings.

> > So in

> > > > > > > > rahu-kaalam, this can surface more. Where as being in

9H,

> > > > venus

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > > promote religious affairs and it made him do durga

> > > > saptashati in

> > > > > > rahu

> > > > > > > > kalam. The fault lies with ketu, not venus. Also sun and

> > > > > retrograde

> > > > > > > > mercury in Rahu's nakshatra in 2H from AK and Karkamsh,

> > can

> > > > make

> > > > > him

> > > > > > > > say unpleasant things in rahu-kaalam, especially dasha

> > and

> > > > antar

> > > > > > > > supporting.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What are the impulses that this venus gives? Venus the

> > > > primordial

> > > > > > > > shakti, venus the ardhnaareeshwar in the chart, his own

> > other

> > > > > self.

> > > > > > > > Venus is in sagitarius in navamsh, the natural 9H again.

> > This

> > > > > venus

> > > > > > > > relates to dharma.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What is it that he would like from the bottom of his

> > heart?

> > > > What

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > be the innermost urges? I am sure it is all possible

> > combined

> > > > > > > > significations of venus in 9H.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please correct me if I am wrong in my understanding. I

am

> > > > only a

> > > > > > > learner.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Best regards

> > > > > > > > Astrosurfer

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

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October 12, 2008

Sorry, that is obviously a typo mistake. I meant Saturn only, because

otherwise it cannot cause Punarphoo.

Thanks for pointing it out.

regards/Bhaskar.

, " Amit Nakai "

<amit.nakai wrote:

>

> Pushya is owned by Saturn

>

> Bhaskar

> Sunday, October 12, 2008 3:26 PM

>

> Re: Rahu Kalam - Please read this

.. Its revealing.

>

> The Lady -

>

> In The Ladys chart Sun MD uptil 2013.

> The Sun signifies the houses 6, 7,10, and 12.

> Of these except for the 7th houses, rest are not

> favourable for compatibility. So this Mahadasha

> is not very favourable for marriage happiness.

>

> The next MD is of Moon.

> Moon signifies 3,4, 9 and 12.

> Of these 4 and 12 are not favourable for marriage.

> Rest are neutral.

>

> Punarphoo Dosa is there in the chart, due to

> Moon in Pushya nakshatra owned by the Moon.

>

> Saturn is aspecting the Moon in the 9th.

> Mars is aspecting the Moon in the 9th.

> ( It also carries Rahus influence alongwith it).

>

> When the Moon is aflicted, then the native may

> be behaving unconventionally, so one can expect

> the husband to be at the receiving end causing

> disruptions in the married Life..

>

> Venus is unfortunateky placed in the Rohini

> Nakshatra owned by Moon who is seated in the

> badhakasthana. Notice the house of

> bed pleasures which is the 12th, Lorded by

> Venus, is placed 8th from its own house,

> denying actual bed pleasures in the frequency

> required by the native.

>

> So though Venus may be well placed

> and looking strong it is actually not

> giving desired results.

>

> Her speech may be giving her money or not I dont

> know, but she is certainly capable of good sarcasm and

> the cutting edge, whenever she wishes this on a unsuspecting

> Godforsaken victim. The house of speech carries the

> influence of both Rahu, Mars,Saturn and Jupiter.

>

> The Husband -

>

> Venus MD till 2012

> Venus signifies 2,3,5,6,8,9,10, 7 and 12.

> Of these 2 and 7 are good but powerless against the

> joint activation of 6,8,9,10 and 12.

> 9th, we must not forget, is also the badhaksthana.

>

> The 7th lord saturn is in the 6th from its own house,

> spoiling the effects of the 7th. It is also connected with

> Mars, who is the badhaka Lord. Incidentally,

> Mars is debilitated.

>

> The 12th lord of bed pleasures Moon, is placed debilitated in the 4th.

Remember that it is also the Lord of denial, and due to its placement in

the 4th, it will deny domestic happiness to the native., alongwith no

physical comfort.

> The Sun is unfortunately clouded by the aspect of Saturn.

>

> But his life will change remarkably better ( Relatively ) when the Sun

mahadasha enters his Life.

>

> My comments -

> This is an unfortunate match. I do not know how they manage. they seem

not to have finished their fights in the last janma, so brought together

in this Life, to finish it off.

> If given a scale and asked to measure, I would say that both

> of them have got equally bad charts, but The Lion here will

> be overpowered in a straight fight by the Scorpion, no doubt

> about this.

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

> , " neelam gupta "

neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > I am giving below the birth details of a couple given to me

privately with

> > their consent to discuss their planetary positions regarding

husband-wife

> > relationship.

> >

> > Female: 8.5.1954/19.15/Colombo, SL

> > Male: 17.10.1947/3.10/Horana, SL

> >

> > I am encouraged to take it up as we have two parallel threads

running on

> > this topic. I am starting with a very basic discussion of some

parameters

> > for the lady's chart. I invite opinions of learned members on this

chart and

> > discussion on the husband's chart. Incidentally, the lady is scorpio

lagna

> > and the man is leo lagna.

> >

> > Although LL and 7L are never friends, there's something more to

Leo-scorpio

> > relationship. I am sure learned members would throw light on that.

> >

> > The lady has scorpio lagna with venus in own 7H. That makes the

marriage

> > overall stable. Moon in cancer in 9H in pushya, gives strong

religious

> > inclinations and spiritual advancements.

> >

> > But look at the influences on 2-6-10 houses and see how day-to-day

conflicts

> > can crop up and create difficult situations, especially triggered by

dashas

> > and transits.

> >

> > 2H has LL Mars in friendly sign. But with rahu and aspected by an

exalted

> > saturn from 12H and its lord jup from 8H. This shows that the native

has

> > much to do with speech and may have a profession connected with

speech, but

> > this same speech also hampers the marital serenity as mars in 8H

from 7th is

> > not in a friendly situation.

> >

> > 6H has exalted 10L sun with mercury, aspected by an exalted Saturn.

Shows a

> > career related to law. But at the same time, this being 6H of

disputes and

> > 12H from 7H, it happens at the expense of marriage and professional

> > compulsions also come into play.

> >

> > 10L is in 6H which is good for profession, but not so good for

marital

> > happiness. This position can create difficulties and discords as 10H

is

> > marital happiness and its lord has gone to the 12H of losses.

> >

> > Overall, we see a picture of ups and downs where the native may

indulge in

> > verbal disagreements or disputes with her husband. It might be more

with

> > relevant dasha and transit.

> >

> > At present, there is transit of ketu over her moon in 9H, and Saturn

in 10H

> > which can disturb the mind and happiness of marriage.

> >

> > 9H related dasha/transit is not good for marriage as it is loss of

marital

> > happiness with sudden obstacles/problems (3H from 7th)

> >

> > Let us have more on this and husband's chart.

> >

> > Regards

> > Neelam

> >

>

October 12, 2008

Dear Renuji,

Being a professional astrologer, I have hundreds of such charts with

data, and a description of their problems, I am doing this day in and

out, and get fed up at times reading so many silly problems , who have

just got 60-70 years basic Life to live, of which 30 years from age of

20 is the actual period of the cells being active to fight it out, after

which, beyond the age of 50, one is expected to mellow down and become

mature. But unfortunately it has nowadays become the other way round.

It seems they like applying this adage " After 40 one becomes naughty " ,

which is also one of the cause for so many disparities.

Most of the problems I encounter in my professional Life, are related to

Business/finance followed by marriage incompatibilities. So actually I

am just full to the brim with all this, and cant take it no more.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, " renunw " <renunw

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>

> I can but only agree with your revelations and thanks for the same.

>

> // He said that for a Leo person, marital happiness would be a rarity,

> unles he has very fortunate combinations in his chart for the same //

>

> I've noticed this in quite a few Leo natives, though I don't have

their

> charts with me. Either their marriages are in jeopardy or they are

> divorced, separated, widowed etc.

>

> But there may be exceptions...

>

> I know a young couple who got married 2 years ago, Leo husband and

> Scorpio wife,......so far everything is a smooth sail for them. The

> husband is very caring and loving, and now the family is complete with

a

> baby girl. I've got only the chart of the husband with me. If anybody

> is interested, in the Leo- Scorpio duel...sorry dual, let me give the

> horoscope of the husband. I will try to get the wife's chart if

> possible.

>

> 6th September 1979 @ 6.06 AM in Kent, UK.

>

> blessings

>

> Renu

>

, " Bhaskar "

> rajiventerprises@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Renuji,

> >

> > You have also taken up a good observation.

> >

> > As students our astrology class was also party to many off beat

> > discussions apart from our syllabus. I remember vividly one of my

> > Professors who is now a old man and a experienced astrologer both in

> > Sayana and Nirayana.

> >

> > He said that for a Leo person, marital happiness would be a rarity,

> > unles he has very fortunate combinations in his chart for the same.

> This

> > is because Sun having ownership of the 1st house for Leo, and Saturn

> > having ownership of the 7th house for Leo, are both sworn enemies.

> Next,

> > Saturn is also the Lord of the 6th house, which adds to the

bitterness

> > in the marriage, as the 6th house traits are always the cause for

> > incompatibilities, and if they conjoin with the 12th and 8th, then

it

> is

> > a definite Divorce or seperation.

> >

> > A Leo nativity can suppress all the other natives bearing all

> ascendants

> > except for Scorpio.

> >

> > A Scorpio nativity can suppress all the other natives bearing all

> > ascendants, except Leo.

> >

> > So here we have the clash of Titans , whenever the clash takes place

> it

> > would be a enjoyable scene for the neighbours.

> >

> > In our case we both have strong Mars in our lagnas, so when we enter

> > into a clash, anybody else coming in the firing range would be

> clobbered

> > mercilessly.

> >

> > That is something to chew upon, this Sunday.

> >

> > Enjoy,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> > , " renunw " renunw@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > >

> > > Thanks for commencing an interesting and educative discussion. I

was

> > > keenly attentive throughout the discussion, for a good reason too.

> > > Leo husband + Scorpion wife is something personal to me, and seems

> > > to create problems during the current planetary movements.... or

is

> > > it inherent in their nature?

> > >

> > > I am not surprised of your wife's 'hot temper and religious

> > > inclination', both traits will go hand in hand quite

> > > comfortably.....I would say this is the 'true Scorpion spirit'.

> > >

> > > blessings,

> > >

> > > Renu

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > rajiventerprises@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ram Jaiswalji,

> > > >

> > > > I have already put a query about a year back in Group of Priya

> > > > Bhooshanji, whic was not about my personal chart, but about some

> > > > technical confirmations, which did not even eecit a response,

> > > forget any

> > > > reply, after that I never visited that Forum ever. But if you

> > > suggest

> > > > then I may post a enquiry there one of these days, but I do my

> > > studies

> > > > myself on my chart, and do not take whatever anyone says at deep

> > > level,

> > > > but just at surface level.

> > > >

> > > > About Ketu in my 7th house , I will comment later on, but as per

> > > lal

> > > > Kitab, it is supposed to offer favourable results when native

> > > attains

> > > > age of 55. And also when the native son attains major age.

> > > >

> > > > Yes Mytempered, but she wife is very hot is also very religious,

> > > and

> > > > whatever she utters, comes our true. If she curses someone it

will

> > > come

> > > > out true, if she blesses someone it will manifest. She is a

stauch

> > > lover

> > > > of Hanuman Baba and Shrikrishna, and a daughter from a family of

> > > > devotees and from a very rich business family . When she

> > > criticises with

> > > > her 3 inch tongue even a man of 6 feet will be mowed down like a

> > > > spineless rubber, and when she praises, then the praise will be

> > > geuine.

> > > > She certainly holds respect from all those who come in contact

> > > with her.

> > > > This much info. is enough for the moment, about her.

> > > >

> > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > , " Ram Jaswal "

> > > > <rkjaswal@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Bhaskarji

> > > > >

> > > > > Re:Lal Kitab may I suggest your contacting Pundit Priya

> > > Bhooshanji of

> > > > â€œ â€?

> > > > >

> > > > > Personally speaking I feel Ketu is the Graha to be

propitiated?

> > > If I

> > > > may ask is your wife of a â€œshort temperâ€ as Ketu

in

> > 7th

> > > > Hse generally denotes this amongst other things?

Re:disagreements

> > > during

> > > > Rahu Kalam periods I assume generally as opposed from only

> > > Fridays? Per

> > > > Vim you are currently in Rahu/Rahu/Mer and Chara Tau/Aqu â€ "

I

> > > > consider Rahu as co-lord of Aqu hence understandable 7th Hse

focus

> > > > during said periods â€¦.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes â€¦..

> > > > >

> > > > > Jai Sita Ram

> > > > >

> > > > > Ram

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > On Behalf Of

> > > > khurana_satpal

> > > > > 11 October 2008 13:04

> > > > >

> > > > > Re: Rahu Kalam - Please

read

> > > this

> > > > . Its revealing.

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sunil ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I am still a novice as far as the Lal Kitab is concerned.

> > > Devising

> > > > > Lal Kitab upaya is a very serious matter and should not be

done

> > > by

> > > > > beginners like me. Therefore I suggest that Bhaskar ji should

> > > > > consult some senior Lal Kitab scholar/s. I will not be in a

> > > position

> > > > > to suggest any name either.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > >

> > > > > S P Khurana

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > > <%40>

> > > > astrology , " sunil nair "

> > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hare rama krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear satpal khurana ji ,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > many many thanks for giving us Lal kitab perspectivses .I

> > > always

> > > > > > wonder always abt any system of indian predictiv systems

will

> b

> > > > > > contributing to each other than contradicting each other .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > what ever way we look it ,is not a matter of concern wheter

> its

> > > > > > various astrology form s or hand reading or samudrika

> > > sastra .We

> > > > > must b

> > > > > > gr8ful to our ancesters and gr8 rishis for giving us such a

> gr8

> > > > > sciences

> > > > > > which is helping humanity in general .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now sir one thing u dont made it clear .U said " Therefore

> > > Bhaskar

> > > > > ji

> > > > > > will have to do some thing for his Venus in order to

normalize

> > > the

> > > > > > situation "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > can u suggest remedies what shud b done by bhaskar ji ,so

the

> > > > > nativ is

> > > > > > out of this kind of pestering problem tho it is not seems to

b

> > > big

> > > > > >

> > > > > > after all this is for reliving the tension and problems .so

> the

> > > > > remedial

> > > > > > measures r important . can u suggest tru grp or mail

> > > > > >

> > > > > > by the by Bhaskarjis computer is in trouble and his access

is

> > > > > limited i

> > > > > > heard frm him yestrday ,so i dont know when he will b

> > > comfortable

> > > > > with

> > > > > > that .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank u for trying the chart

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > > >

> > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > > <%40>

> > > > astrology , " khurana_satpal "

> > > > > > <khurana_satpal@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Sunil Ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lal Kitab Perspective:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I had been reading with academic interest Bhaskar

> > jiÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s

> > > > > > > predicament during Rahu Kal. I did look at his problem

with

> > > the

> > > > > Lal

> > > > > > > Kitab perspective.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskar jiÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ s contention that Venus happens to

> be

> > the

> > > > main

> > > > > > > culprit is also borne out through the Lal Kitab.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskar ji is currently in his 48th year. In his 48th year

> > > Varsh

> > > > > Phal

> > > > > > > chart Venus is placed in the 4th house for which the Lal

> > > Kitab

> > > > > says :

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ã¢â‚¬Å " Shukra chauthe jab paani ayaa, aurat hua

> > > > bairagÃ¢â‚¬Â when

> > > > > > > the venus comes to the 4th house , it sets in a certain

> > > amount of

> > > > > > > disenchantment. Ã¢â‚¬Å " aurat hua bairagÃ¢â‚¬Â

can

> > be

> > > > interpreted

> > > > > > > both ways : that he gets disenchanted , it can also mean

> > > that in

> > > > > her

> > > > > > too

> > > > > > > the fire of passion is no longer as strong.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I believe his Rahu Kal predicament would have been

> pronounced

> > > > > after

> > > > > > June

> > > > > > > this year and is likely to last till June next year i.e.

> > > during

> > > > > his

> > > > > > > entire 48th year.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But why should it happen during the Rahu Kal specially ?

The

> > > Lal

> > > > > Kitab

> > > > > > > doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t say any thing about it because in

North

> > India

> > > > specially

> > > > > > > the hill regions where the Lal Kitab originated from, Rahu

> > > Kal

> > > > > is not

> > > > > > > much talked about. But in astrological terms Venus and the

> > > Rahu

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > enemies therefore the adverse effects of venus would come

> > > forth

> > > > > during

> > > > > > > the period when Rahu is strong, more so during his

Rahu/Rahu

> > > > > dasha.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Therefore Bhaskar ji will have to do some thing for his

> > > Venus in

> > > > > order

> > > > > > > to normalize the situation.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > S P Khurana

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > > <%40>

> > > > astrology , " sunil nair "

> > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > dear astro surfer ji

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks for ur views .yes dasa also supports it i hope

such

> > > > > trends

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > go down after this month .we will get feed backs frm sri

> > > > > bhaskar ji

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > sure and we can update our undrstanding too .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i blv his sani has some spiritual mission which rahu is

> > > > > entrusted

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > sani being 7th L etc acting tru venus also the karaka

for

> > > > > neccessary

> > > > > > > > fire needed for spiritulaity .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > let us wait and i hope other memebrs also will giv some

> > > > > opinions

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > also i wud lov to hear opinion frm lal kitabies in grp

> > > too .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > > <%40>

> > > > astrology , " astro.surfer "

> > > > > > > > astro.surfer@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji, Bhaskar ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Why don't you think that Ketu in 7H is the real

culprit?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rahu and Mars hold the steering, but what is venus

doing

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > chart?

> > > > > > > > > It is the SAARTHI? showing the direction where the

> native

> > > > > will be

> > > > > > > > > heading. In 9H in LL Sun's constellation. Lagna rising

> in

> > > > > venus

> > > > > > > star.

> > > > > > > > > It is very important to understand this venus as he is

> > > the

> > > > > > > > > karma-dharmadhipati. The native will never be able to

> > > escape

> > > > > > venus,

> > > > > > > > > though he might keep running from it, but it will

always

> > > > > give good

> > > > > > > > > things in life, things that native will love to

cherish

> > > and

> > > > > keep

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > his prized possessions.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Venus is the Atmakarak, the planet to take him

vaitarni

> > > paar.

> > > > > > Venus

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > AL in 9H with and arudh of 9H in 5H of poorv punya. It

> > > is no

> > > > > one

> > > > > > > else

> > > > > > > > > but a projection of self. Venus is the soul of this

> > > chart.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Venus gives 7 ashtakvarga points aries and 6 in leo.

See

> > > the

> > > > > > subtle

> > > > > > > > > root connection with lagna and LL. In vimsamsh, venus

> > > takes

> > > > > charge

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > the wheel with mars and sun in the 7H.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mars, the YK fully energises this venus, who is in

> > > martian

> > > > > sign in

> > > > > > > D-1

> > > > > > > > > and aspected by mars in D-9. Rahu, who is mars

> > > personified,

> > > > > is

> > > > > > fully

> > > > > > > > > aspecting with a backward glance.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Venus does not fully represent spouse in the chart, it

> is

> > > > > only the

> > > > > > > > > karak for 7H in 9H. It has no relation with 7H and 7L

in

> > > > > natal

> > > > > > chart

> > > > > > > > > as well as D-9, whereas Saturn represents wife being

7L,

> > > 7L

> > > > > in 7H

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > navamsha and Dk. It is saturn all the way, with Jup,

> > > mars and

> > > > > > Rahu.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rahu-kaalam impact on wife could be because ketu is

> > > there in

> > > > > 7H in

> > > > > > > > > dhanishtha. Ketu in 7H is responsible for unnecessary

> > > > > disputes

> > > > > > > between

> > > > > > > > > partners and causes disillusion and misunderstandings.

> > > So in

> > > > > > > > > rahu-kaalam, this can surface more. Where as being in

> 9H,

> > > > > venus

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > promote religious affairs and it made him do durga

> > > > > saptashati in

> > > > > > > rahu

> > > > > > > > > kalam. The fault lies with ketu, not venus. Also sun

and

> > > > > > retrograde

> > > > > > > > > mercury in Rahu's nakshatra in 2H from AK and

Karkamsh,

> > > can

> > > > > make

> > > > > > him

> > > > > > > > > say unpleasant things in rahu-kaalam, especially dasha

> > > and

> > > > > antar

> > > > > > > > > supporting.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What are the impulses that this venus gives? Venus the

> > > > > primordial

> > > > > > > > > shakti, venus the ardhnaareeshwar in the chart, his

own

> > > other

> > > > > > self.

> > > > > > > > > Venus is in sagitarius in navamsh, the natural 9H

again.

> > > This

> > > > > > venus

> > > > > > > > > relates to dharma.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What is it that he would like from the bottom of his

> > > heart?

> > > > > What

> > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > be the innermost urges? I am sure it is all possible

> > > combined

> > > > > > > > > significations of venus in 9H.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please correct me if I am wrong in my understanding. I

> am

> > > > > only a

> > > > > > > > learner.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Best regards

> > > > > > > > > Astrosurfer

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

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October 12, 2008

Namaste Renu

Would you happen to have the Place of

Birth in Kent?

Incase if not already aware Kent

is a County (State) in England

and not a town/city hence the question.

Thanks and regards â€¦â€¦

Jai Sita Ram

Ram

On Behalf Of renunw

12 October 2008 12:05

Re: Rahu Kalam - Please read this . Its revealing.

Dear Bhaskar ji,

I can but only agree with your revelations and thanks for the same.

// He said that for a Leo person, marital happiness would be a rarity,

unles he has very fortunate combinations in his chart for the same //

I've noticed this in quite a few Leo natives, though I don't have their

charts with me. Either their marriages are in jeopardy or they are

divorced, separated, widowed etc.

But there may be exceptions...

I know a young couple who got married 2 years ago, Leo husband and

Scorpio wife,......so far everything is a smooth sail for them. The

husband is very caring and loving, and now the family is complete with a

baby girl. I've got only the chart of the husband with me. If anybody

is interested, in the Leo- Scorpio duel...sorry dual, let me give the

horoscope of the husband. I will try to get the wife's chart if

possible.

6th September 1979 @ 6.06 AM in Kent,

UK.

blessings

Renu

,

" Bhaskar "

<rajiventerprises wrote:

>

> Dear Renuji,

>

> You have also taken up a good observation.

>

> As students our astrology class was also party to many off beat

> discussions apart from our syllabus. I remember vividly one of my

> Professors who is now a old man and a experienced astrologer both in

> Sayana and Nirayana.

>

> He said that for a Leo person, marital happiness would be a rarity,

> unles he has very fortunate combinations in his chart for the same.

This

> is because Sun having ownership of the 1st house for Leo, and Saturn

> having ownership of the 7th house for Leo, are both sworn enemies.

Next,

> Saturn is also the Lord of the 6th house, which adds to the bitterness

> in the marriage, as the 6th house traits are always the cause for

> incompatibilities, and if they conjoin with the 12th and 8th, then it

is

> a definite Divorce or seperation.

>

> A Leo nativity can suppress all the other natives bearing all

ascendants

> except for Scorpio.

>

> A Scorpio nativity can suppress all the other natives bearing all

> ascendants, except Leo.

>

> So here we have the clash of Titans , whenever the clash takes place

it

> would be a enjoyable scene for the neighbours.

>

> In our case we both have strong Mars in our lagnas, so when we enter

> into a clash, anybody else coming in the firing range would be

clobbered

> mercilessly.

>

> That is something to chew upon, this Sunday.

>

> Enjoy,

>

> Bhaskar.

> ,

" renunw " renunw@

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> >

> > Thanks for commencing an interesting and educative discussion. I was

> > keenly attentive throughout the discussion, for a good reason too.

> > Leo husband + Scorpion wife is something personal to me, and seems

> > to create problems during the current planetary movements.... or

is

> > it inherent in their nature?

> >

> > I am not surprised of your wife's 'hot temper and religious

> > inclination', both traits will go hand in hand quite

> > comfortably.....I would say this is the 'true Scorpion spirit'.

> >

> > blessings,

> >

> > Renu

> >

> > ,

" Bhaskar "

> > rajiventerprises@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ram Jaiswalji,

> > >

> > > I have already put a query about a year back in Group of Priya

> > > Bhooshanji, whic was not about my personal chart, but about some

> > > technical confirmations, which did not even eecit a response,

> > forget any

> > > reply, after that I never visited that Forum ever. But if you

> > suggest

> > > then I may post a enquiry there one of these days, but I do my

> > studies

> > > myself on my chart, and do not take whatever anyone says at deep

> > level,

> > > but just at surface level.

> > >

> > > About Ketu in my 7th house , I will comment later on, but as per

> > lal

> > > Kitab, it is supposed to offer favourable results when native

> > attains

> > > age of 55. And also when the native son attains major age.

> > >

> > > Yes Mytempered, but she wife is very hot is also very religious,

> > and

> > > whatever she utters, comes our true. If she curses someone it

will

> > come

> > > out true, if she blesses someone it will manifest. She is a stauch

> > lover

> > > of Hanuman Baba and Shrikrishna, and a daughter from a family of

> > > devotees and from a very rich business family . When she

> > criticises with

> > > her 3 inch tongue even a man of 6 feet will be mowed down like a

> > > spineless rubber, and when she praises, then the praise will be

> > geuine.

> > > She certainly holds respect from all those who come in contact

> > with her.

> > > This much info. is enough for the moment, about her.

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > ,

" Ram Jaswal "

> > > <rkjaswal@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Bhaskarji

> > > >

> > > > Re:Lal Kitab may I suggest your contacting Pundit Priya

> > Bhooshanji of

> > > Ã¢â‚¬Å“ Ã¢â‚¬Â?

> > > >

> > > > Personally speaking I feel Ketu is the Graha to be

propitiated?

> > If I

> > > may ask is your wife of a Ã¢â‚¬Å“short temperÃ¢â‚¬Â as

Ketu in

> 7th

> > > Hse generally denotes this amongst other things?

Re:disagreements

> > during

> > > Rahu Kalam periods I assume generally as opposed from only

> > Fridays? Per

> > > Vim you are currently in Rahu/Rahu/Mer and Chara Tau/Aqu

Ã¢â‚¬ " I

> > > consider Rahu as co-lord of Aqu hence understandable 7th Hse

focus

> > > during said periods Ã¢â‚¬Â¦.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes Ã¢â‚¬Â¦..

> > > >

> > > > Jai Sita Ram

> > > >

> > > > Ram

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > >

On Behalf Of

> > > khurana_satpal

> > > > 11 October 2008 13:04

> > > >

> > > > Re: Rahu Kalam -

Please read

> > this

> > > . Its revealing.

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sunil ji,

> > > >

> > > > I am still a novice as far as the Lal Kitab is concerned.

> > Devising

> > > > Lal Kitab upaya is a very serious matter and should not be

done

> > by

> > > > beginners like me. Therefore I suggest that Bhaskar ji

should

> > > > consult some senior Lal Kitab scholar/s. I will not be in a

> > position

> > > > to suggest any name either.

> > > >

> > > > Sincerely,

> > > >

> > > > S P Khurana

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > astrology ,

" sunil nair "

> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hare rama krishna

> > > > >

> > > > > dear satpal khurana ji ,

> > > > >

> > > > > many many thanks for giving us Lal kitab perspectivses

..I

> > always

> > > > > wonder always abt any system of indian predictiv

systems will

b

> > > > > contributing to each other than contradicting each

other .

> > > > >

> > > > > what ever way we look it ,is not a matter of concern

wheter

its

> > > > > various astrology form s or hand reading or samudrika

> > sastra .We

> > > > must b

> > > > > gr8ful to our ancesters and gr8 rishis for giving us

such a

gr8

> > > > sciences

> > > > > which is helping humanity in general .

> > > > >

> > > > > Now sir one thing u dont made it clear .U said

" Therefore

> > Bhaskar

> > > > ji

> > > > > will have to do some thing for his Venus in order to

normalize

> > the

> > > > > situation "

> > > > >

> > > > > can u suggest remedies what shud b done by bhaskar ji

,so the

> > > > nativ is

> > > > > out of this kind of pestering problem tho it is not

seems to b

> > big

> > > > >

> > > > > after all this is for reliving the tension and

problems .so

the

> > > > remedial

> > > > > measures r important . can u suggest tru grp or mail

> > > > >

> > > > > by the by Bhaskarjis computer is in trouble and his

access is

> > > > limited i

> > > > > heard frm him yestrday ,so i dont know when he will b

> > comfortable

> > > > with

> > > > > that .

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank u for trying the chart

> > > > >

> > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > >

> > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > astrology ,

" khurana_satpal "

> > > > > <khurana_satpal@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sunil Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lal Kitab Perspective:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I had been reading with academic interest Bhaskar

> jiÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s

> > > > > > predicament during Rahu Kal. I did look at his

problem with

> > the

> > > > Lal

> > > > > > Kitab perspective.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar jiÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ s contention that

Venus happens to

be

> the

> > > main

> > > > > > culprit is also borne out through the Lal Kitab.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar ji is currently in his 48th year. In his

48th year

> > Varsh

> > > > Phal

> > > > > > chart Venus is placed in the 4th house for which

the Lal

> > Kitab

> > > > says :

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã… " Shukra chauthe jab paani ayaa,

aurat hua

> > > bairagÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â when

> > > > > > the venus comes to the 4th house , it sets in a

certain

> > amount of

> > > > > > disenchantment. ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã… " aurat hua

bairagÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â can

> be

> > > interpreted

> > > > > > both ways : that he gets disenchanted , it can

also mean

> > that in

> > > > her

> > > > > too

> > > > > > the fire of passion is no longer as strong.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I believe his Rahu Kal predicament would have

been

pronounced

> > > > after

> > > > > June

> > > > > > this year and is likely to last till June next

year i.e.

> > during

> > > > his

> > > > > > entire 48th year.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But why should it happen during the Rahu Kal

specially ? The

> > Lal

> > > > Kitab

> > > > > > doesnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t say any thing about it

because in North

> India

> > > specially

> > > > > > the hill regions where the Lal Kitab originated

from, Rahu

> > Kal

> > > > is not

> > > > > > much talked about. But in astrological terms

Venus and the

> > Rahu

> > > > are

> > > > > > enemies therefore the adverse effects of venus

would come

> > forth

> > > > during

> > > > > > the period when Rahu is strong, more so during

his Rahu/Rahu

> > > > dasha.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Therefore Bhaskar ji will have to do some thing

for his

> > Venus in

> > > > order

> > > > > > to normalize the situation.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > S P Khurana

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > astrology ,

" sunil nair "

> > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hare rama krishna

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dear astro surfer ji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for ur views .yes dasa also supports it i hope

such

> > > > trends

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > go down after this month .we will get feed

backs frm sri

> > > > bhaskar ji

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > sure and we can update our undrstanding too

..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i blv his sani has some spiritual mission

which rahu is

> > > > entrusted

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > sani being 7th L etc acting tru venus also

the karaka for

> > > > neccessary

> > > > > > > fire needed for spiritulaity .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > let us wait and i hope other memebrs also

will giv some

> > > > opinions

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > also i wud lov to hear opinion frm lal

kitabies in grp

> > too .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > astrology ,

" astro.surfer "

> > > > > > > astro.surfer@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji, Bhaskar ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Why don't you think that Ketu in 7H is

the real culprit?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rahu and Mars hold the steering, but

what is venus doing

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > > chart?

> > > > > > > > It is the SAARTHI? showing the

direction where the

native

> > > > will be

> > > > > > > > heading. In 9H in LL Sun's

constellation. Lagna rising

in

> > > > venus

> > > > > > star.

> > > > > > > > It is very important to understand this

venus as he is

> > the

> > > > > > > > karma-dharmadhipati. The native

will never be able to

> > escape

> > > > > venus,

> > > > > > > > though he might keep running from it,

but it will always

> > > > give good

> > > > > > > > things in life, things that native will

love to cherish

> > and

> > > > keep

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > > his prized possessions.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Venus is the Atmakarak, the planet to

take him vaitarni

> > paar.

> > > > > Venus

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > AL

in 9H with and arudh of 9H in 5H of poorv punya. It

> > is no

> > > > one

> > > > > > else

> > > > > > > > but a projection of self. Venus is the

soul of this

> > chart.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Venus gives 7 ashtakvarga points aries

and 6 in leo. See

> > the

> > > > > subtle

> > > > > > > > root connection with lagna and LL. In

vimsamsh, venus

> > takes

> > > > charge

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > the wheel with mars and sun in the 7H.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mars, the YK fully energises this

venus, who is in

> > martian

> > > > sign in

> > > > > > D-1

> > > > > > > > and aspected by mars in D-9. Rahu, who

is mars

> > personified,

> > > > is

> > > > > fully

> > > > > > > > aspecting with a backward glance.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Venus does not fully represent spouse

in the chart, it

is

> > > > only the

> > > > > > > > karak for 7H in 9H. It has no relation

with 7H and 7L in

> > > > natal

> > > > > chart

> > > > > > > > as well as D-9, whereas Saturn

represents wife being 7L,

> > 7L

> > > > in 7H

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > navamsha and Dk. It is saturn all the

way, with Jup,

> > mars and

> > > > > Rahu.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rahu-kaalam impact on wife could be

because ketu is

> > there in

> > > > 7H in

> > > > > > > > dhanishtha. Ketu in 7H is responsible

for unnecessary

> > > > disputes

> > > > > > between

> > > > > > > > partners and causes disillusion and

misunderstandings.

> > So in

> > > > > > > > rahu-kaalam, this can surface more.

Where as being in

9H,

> > > > venus

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > > promote religious affairs and it made

him do durga

> > > > saptashati in

> > > > > > rahu

> > > > > > > > kalam. The fault lies with ketu, not

venus. Also sun and

> > > > > retrograde

> > > > > > > > mercury in Rahu's nakshatra in 2H from

AK and Karkamsh,

> > can

> > > > make

> > > > > him

> > > > > > > > say unpleasant things in rahu-kaalam,

especially dasha

> > and

> > > > antar

> > > > > > > > supporting.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What are the impulses that this venus

gives? Venus the

> > > > primordial

> > > > > > > > shakti, venus the ardhnaareeshwar in

the chart, his own

> > other

> > > > > self.

> > > > > > > > Venus is in sagitarius in navamsh, the

natural 9H again.

> > This

> > > > > venus

> > > > > > > > relates to dharma.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What is it that he would like from the

bottom of his

> > heart?

> > > > What

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > be the innermost urges? I am sure it is

all possible

> > combined

> > > > > > > > significations of venus in 9H.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please correct me if I am wrong in my

understanding. I

am

> > > > only a

> > > > > > > learner.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Best regards

> > > > > > > > Astrosurfer

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

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//As lagna Lord and as 12th Lord, Saturn will give more effects of the 1st house, because it has got additional powers and status here,

due to dual Ownership, as both a Kendra lord and a Kona Lord.//This is also the case for makar lagna. Even though mool trikona falls in 2H, the results will be more pertaining to lagna.

Also, in both makar and kumbh lagna, we see the other houses falling in neutral 2H and 12H. According to Parashara, these are neutral houses and give the results of their other signs.However, if specific implications of other houses being stronger exist in the chart, we can go by that.

RegardsNeelam

October 12, 2008

// However, if specific implications of other houses being stronger exist in the chart, we can go by that. //

Absolutely. That would be the final say.

regards/Bhaskar

, "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> //As lagna Lord and as 12th Lord, Saturn will give more effects of the 1st> house, because it has got additional powers and status here,> due to dual Ownership, as both a Kendra lord and a Kona Lord.//> > This is also the case for makar lagna. Even though mool trikona falls in 2H,> the results will be more pertaining to lagna.> > Also, in both makar and kumbh lagna, we see the other houses falling in> neutral 2H and 12H. According to Parashara, these are neutral houses and> give the results of their other signs.> > However, if specific implications of other houses being stronger exist in> the chart, we can go by that.> > Regards> Neelam>

October 12, 2008

For the leo native we are discussing, makar in 6H is aspected by its own lord who is also the 7L. It is also aspected by Mars and rahu.So 6H gains in strength and would be sure to give its results. 7H has no aspect and its lord is in 6/8 position.

Can we say that 7L is not able to protect its house and with a debilitated 9L in 12H, it will cause harm to self and spouse which is governed by misfortunes.What will be Jupiter's role as 5L aspecting this combination in the 12H. It will not let the marriage break. Keep them bonded till they fight it out by keeping the 6H ignited.

Am I right?RegardsNeelam2008/10/12 Bhaskar <rajiventerprises

// However, if specific implications of other houses being stronger exist in the chart, we can go by that. //

Absolutely. That would be the final say.

regards/Bhaskar

, " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> //As lagna Lord and as 12th Lord, Saturn will give more effects of the 1st

> house, because it has got additional powers and status here,> due to dual Ownership, as both a Kendra lord and a Kona Lord.//> > This is also the case for makar lagna. Even though mool trikona falls in 2H,

> the results will be more pertaining to lagna.> > Also, in both makar and kumbh lagna, we see the other houses falling in> neutral 2H and 12H. According to Parashara, these are neutral houses and

> give the results of their other signs.> > However, if specific implications of other houses being stronger exist in> the chart, we can go by that.> > Regards> Neelam>

October 12, 2008

For the leo native we are discussing, makar in 6H is aspected by its own lord who is also the 7L. It is also aspected by Mars and rahu. So 6H gains in strength and would be sure to give its results. 7H has no aspect and its lord is in 6/8 position.

Yes exactly. Thats what I meant in my previous analysis about this native. 6th has certainly gained good strength overpowering its ownership of the 7th due to (a) Saturn directly aspecting its own 6th house, (b) Mars though debilitated, but aspecting its Exaltation sign. ( This same 6th house) and making it stronger

Can we say that 7L is not able to protect its house and with a debilitated 9L in 12H, it will cause harm to self and spouse which is governed by misfortunes.

Yes true. The 7th Lord is not able to protect its own house. The 12th house is also the house of self undoing. So harm to self is definitely caused. The 9th Lord is simultaneously the Lord of the 4th house so removes the affections between the couple, as 12th from the 5th house. Misfortunes are totally rampant in thse charts in the area of relationships. You see The Sun also being aspected by Saturn within 2 degrees Orb. All pointing out to rin bandhans and doshas.

What will be Jupiter's role as 5L aspecting this combination in the 12H. It will not let the marriage break. Keep them bonded till they fight it out by keeping the 6H ignited.

Jupiter provides the lost affections, but it is like a Love affair before seperation. The difference here would be, that there is no Love affair, but chances of break or seperations stand strong. We must not forget that the Jupiter is the Lord of the 8th house which causes termination. But I would say that everything may happen between the couple but probably remain near and before the border of actual divorce. This is because lik you said Jupiter would not allow the marriage break. I have additional reasons for saying this. Saturn being the 7th Lord is aspected by Jupiter, but this aspect is falling on both Jupiter and Mars, in the area of the Exaltation sign of Jupiter, which may be the probable saviour. regards/Bhaskar.

, "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> For the leo native we are discussing, makar in 6H is aspected by its own> lord who is also the 7L. It is also aspected by Mars and rahu.> So 6H gains in strength and would be sure to give its results. 7H has no> aspect and its lord is in 6/8 position.> > Can we say that 7L is not able to protect its house and with a debilitated> 9L in 12H, it will cause harm to self and spouse which is governed by> misfortunes.> What will be Jupiter's role as 5L aspecting this combination in the 12H. It> will not let the marriage break. Keep them bonded till they fight it out by> keeping the 6H ignited.> > Am I right?> > Regards> Neelam> > > 2008/10/12 Bhaskar rajiventerprises > > // However, if specific implications of other houses being stronger> > exist in the chart, we can go by that. //> >> > Absolutely. That would be the final say.> >> > regards/Bhaskar> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , "neelam gupta"> > neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > >> > > //As lagna Lord and as 12th Lord, Saturn will give more effects of the> > 1st> > > house, because it has got additional powers and status here,> > > due to dual Ownership, as both a Kendra lord and a Kona Lord.//> > >> > > This is also the case for makar lagna. Even though mool trikona falls in> > 2H,> > > the results will be more pertaining to lagna.> > >> > > Also, in both makar and kumbh lagna, we see the other houses falling in> > > neutral 2H and 12H. According to Parashara, these are neutral houses and> > > give the results of their other signs.> > >> > > However, if specific implications of other houses being stronger exist in> > > the chart, we can go by that.> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > > >>

October 12, 2008

Please do not pass this to the lady in question, as this dialouge was

principally between two class mates. I fear that after reading this, she

or her husband may get dejected and not make any efforts to repair their

lives, thinking that Our Charts are unfortunate. ( And actually one has

to explain them that they are having fortunes in other areas, though not

in Marriage, but all this can be done only face to face, and my mail is

negative worded, considering that i was conversing with you in the astro

language ).

regards,

Bhaskar.

, " neelam gupta "

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>

> Thank you for sharing your views with the analysis of the two charts.

I'll

> pass it on to the lady in question and get her feedback on this.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

> 2008/10/12 Bhaskar rajiventerprises

>

> > *The Lady -*

> > In The Ladys chart Sun MD uptil 2013.

> > The Sun signifies the houses 6, 7,10, and 12.

> > Of these except for the 7th houses, rest are not

> > favourable for compatibility. So this Mahadasha

> > is not very favourable for marriage happiness.

> >

> > The next MD is of Moon.

> > Moon signifies 3,4, 9 and 12.

> > Of these 4 and 12 are not favourable for marriage.

> > Rest are neutral.

> >

> > Punarphoo Dosa is there in the chart, due to

> > Moon in Pushya nakshatra owned by the Moon.

> >

> > Saturn is aspecting the Moon in the 9th.

> > Mars is aspecting the Moon in the 9th.

> > ( It also carries Rahus influence alongwith it).

> >

> > When the Moon is aflicted, then the native may

> > be behaving unconventionally, so one can expect

> > the husband to be at the receiving end causing

> > disruptions in the married Life..

> >

> > Venus is unfortunateky placed in the Rohini

> > Nakshatra owned by Moon who is seated in the

> > badhakasthana. Notice the house of

> > bed pleasures which is the 12th, Lorded by

> > Venus, is placed 8th from its own house,

> > denying actual bed pleasures in the frequency

> > required by the native.

> >

> > So though Venus may be well placed

> > and looking strong it is actually not

> > giving desired results.

> >

> > Her speech may be giving her money or not I dont

> > know, but she is certainly capable of good sarcasm and

> > the cutting edge, whenever she wishes this on a unsuspecting

> > Godforsaken victim. The house of speech carries the

> > influence of both Rahu, Mars,Saturn and Jupiter.

> >

> > *The Husband -*

> >

> > Venus MD till 2012

> > Venus signifies 2,3,5,6,8,9,10, 7 and 12.

> > Of these 2 and 7 are good but powerless against the

> > joint activation of 6,8,9,10 and 12.

> > 9th, we must not forget, is also the badhaksthana.

> >

> > The 7th lord saturn is in the 6th from its own house,

> > spoiling the effects of the 7th. It is also connected with

> > Mars, who is the badhaka Lord. Incidentally,

> > Mars is debilitated.

> >

> > The 12th lord of bed pleasures Moon, is placed debilitated in the

4th. Remember

> > that it is also the Lord of denial, and due to its placement in the

4th,

> > it will deny domestic happiness to the native., alongwith no

physical

> > comfort.

> > The Sun is unfortunately clouded by the aspect of Saturn.

> >

> > But his life will change remarkably better ( Relatively ) when the

Sun

> > mahadasha enters his Life.

> >

> > *My comments -*

> > This is an unfortunate match. I do not know how they manage. they

seem not

> > to have finished their fights in the last janma, so brought together

in this

> > Life, to finish it off.

> > If given a scale and asked to measure, I would say that both

> > of them have got equally bad charts, but The Lion here will

> > be overpowered in a straight fight by the Scorpion, no doubt

> > about this.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> > , " neelam gupta "

> > neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > I am giving below the birth details of a couple given to me

privately

> > with

> > > their consent to discuss their planetary positions regarding

husband-wife

> > > relationship.

> > >

> > > Female: 8.5.1954/19.15/Colombo, SL

> > > Male: 17.10.1947/3.10/Horana, SL

> > >

> > > I am encouraged to take it up as we have two parallel threads

running on

> > > this topic. I am starting with a very basic discussion of some

parameters

> > > for the lady's chart. I invite opinions of learned members on this

chart

> > and

> > > discussion on the husband's chart. Incidentally, the lady is

scorpio

> > lagna

> > > and the man is leo lagna.

> > >

> > > Although LL and 7L are never friends, there's something more to

> > Leo-scorpio

> > > relationship. I am sure learned members would throw light on that.

> > >

> > > The lady has scorpio lagna with venus in own 7H. That makes the

marriage

> > > overall stable. Moon in cancer in 9H in pushya, gives strong

religious

> > > inclinations and spiritual advancements.

> > >

> > > But look at the influences on 2-6-10 houses and see how day-to-day

> > conflicts

> > > can crop up and create difficult situations, especially triggered

by

> > dashas

> > > and transits.

> > >

> > > 2H has LL Mars in friendly sign. But with rahu and aspected by an

exalted

> > > saturn from 12H and its lord jup from 8H. This shows that the

native has

> > > much to do with speech and may have a profession connected with

speech,

> > but

> > > this same speech also hampers the marital serenity as mars in 8H

from 7th

> > is

> > > not in a friendly situation.

> > >

> > > 6H has exalted 10L sun with mercury, aspected by an exalted

Saturn. Shows

> > a

> > > career related to law. But at the same time, this being 6H of

disputes

> > and

> > > 12H from 7H, it happens at the expense of marriage and

professional

> > > compulsions also come into play.

> > >

> > > 10L is in 6H which is good for profession, but not so good for

marital

> > > happiness. This position can create difficulties and discords as

10H is

> > > marital happiness and its lord has gone to the 12H of losses.

> > >

> > > Overall, we see a picture of ups and downs where the native may

indulge

> > in

> > > verbal disagreements or disputes with her husband. It might be

more with

> > > relevant dasha and transit.

> > >

> > > At present, there is transit of ketu over her moon in 9H, and

Saturn in

> > 10H

> > > which can disturb the mind and happiness of marriage.

> > >

> > > 9H related dasha/transit is not good for marriage as it is loss of

> > marital

> > > happiness with sudden obstacles/problems (3H from 7th)

> > >

> > > Let us have more on this and husband's chart.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Neelam

> > >

> >

>

October 12, 2008

I will take care. Thanks.6H is the prime house of duality. It is

governed by dual master mercury.

It is an upchay house for self and takes us

through a journey started with previous karmas (5H) which has rough roads,

disputes, and all Ds associated with it. The same house will make one a doctor

and the other person a patient. It can make or mar your life (in wordly terms).

Regarding relationships, it promotes the 5H

and gives results for romances, affairs, previous lives, etc. where as the same

6H also governs the loss and expense of marriage.So good for 5H but not good for 7H?? Lord

of 5H in 6H is good, but lord of 7H in 6H is condemned.

What happens when

there is a love marriage? The house which was conducive before marriage,

becomes obtrusive after marriage?

What is the

message here?

RegardsNeelam2008/10/12 Bhaskar <rajiventerprises

Please do not pass this to the lady in question, as this dialouge was

principally between two class mates. I fear that after reading this, she

or her husband may get dejected and not make any efforts to repair their

lives, thinking that Our Charts are unfortunate. ( And actually one has

to explain them that they are having fortunes in other areas, though not

in Marriage, but all this can be done only face to face, and my mail is

negative worded, considering that i was conversing with you in the astro

language ).

regards,

Bhaskar.

, " neelam gupta "

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>

> Thank you for sharing your views with the analysis of the two charts.

I'll

> pass it on to the lady in question and get her feedback on this.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

> 2008/10/12 Bhaskar rajiventerprises

>

> > *The Lady -*

> > In The Ladys chart Sun MD uptil 2013.

> > The Sun signifies the houses 6, 7,10, and 12.

> > Of these except for the 7th houses, rest are not

> > favourable for compatibility. So this Mahadasha

> > is not very favourable for marriage happiness.

> >

> > The next MD is of Moon.

> > Moon signifies 3,4, 9 and 12.

> > Of these 4 and 12 are not favourable for marriage.

> > Rest are neutral.

> >

> > Punarphoo Dosa is there in the chart, due to

> > Moon in Pushya nakshatra owned by the Moon.

> >

> > Saturn is aspecting the Moon in the 9th.

> > Mars is aspecting the Moon in the 9th.

> > ( It also carries Rahus influence alongwith it).

> >

> > When the Moon is aflicted, then the native may

> > be behaving unconventionally, so one can expect

> > the husband to be at the receiving end causing

> > disruptions in the married Life..

> >

> > Venus is unfortunateky placed in the Rohini

> > Nakshatra owned by Moon who is seated in the

> > badhakasthana. Notice the house of

> > bed pleasures which is the 12th, Lorded by

> > Venus, is placed 8th from its own house,

> > denying actual bed pleasures in the frequency

> > required by the native.

> >

> > So though Venus may be well placed

> > and looking strong it is actually not

> > giving desired results.

> >

> > Her speech may be giving her money or not I dont

> > know, but she is certainly capable of good sarcasm and

> > the cutting edge, whenever she wishes this on a unsuspecting

> > Godforsaken victim. The house of speech carries the

> > influence of both Rahu, Mars,Saturn and Jupiter.

> >

> > *The Husband -*

> >

> > Venus MD till 2012

> > Venus signifies 2,3,5,6,8,9,10, 7 and 12.

> > Of these 2 and 7 are good but powerless against the

> > joint activation of 6,8,9,10 and 12.

> > 9th, we must not forget, is also the badhaksthana.

> >

> > The 7th lord saturn is in the 6th from its own house,

> > spoiling the effects of the 7th. It is also connected with

> > Mars, who is the badhaka Lord. Incidentally,

> > Mars is debilitated.

> >

> > The 12th lord of bed pleasures Moon, is placed debilitated in the

4th. Remember

> > that it is also the Lord of denial, and due to its placement in the

4th,

> > it will deny domestic happiness to the native., alongwith no

physical

> > comfort.

> > The Sun is unfortunately clouded by the aspect of Saturn.

> >

> > But his life will change remarkably better ( Relatively ) when the

Sun

> > mahadasha enters his Life.

> >

> > *My comments -*

> > This is an unfortunate match. I do not know how they manage. they

seem not

> > to have finished their fights in the last janma, so brought together

in this

> > Life, to finish it off.

> > If given a scale and asked to measure, I would say that both

> > of them have got equally bad charts, but The Lion here will

> > be overpowered in a straight fight by the Scorpion, no doubt

> > about this.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> > , " neelam gupta "

> > neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > I am giving below the birth details of a couple given to me

privately

> > with

> > > their consent to discuss their planetary positions regarding

husband-wife

> > > relationship.

> > >

> > > Female: 8.5.1954/19.15/Colombo, SL

> > > Male: 17.10.1947/3.10/Horana, SL

> > >

> > > I am encouraged to take it up as we have two parallel threads

running on

> > > this topic. I am starting with a very basic discussion of some

parameters

> > > for the lady's chart. I invite opinions of learned members on this

chart

> > and

> > > discussion on the husband's chart. Incidentally, the lady is

scorpio

> > lagna

> > > and the man is leo lagna.

> > >

> > > Although LL and 7L are never friends, there's something more to

> > Leo-scorpio

> > > relationship. I am sure learned members would throw light on that.

> > >

> > > The lady has scorpio lagna with venus in own 7H. That makes the

marriage

> > > overall stable. Moon in cancer in 9H in pushya, gives strong

religious

> > > inclinations and spiritual advancements.

> > >

> > > But look at the influences on 2-6-10 houses and see how day-to-day

> > conflicts

> > > can crop up and create difficult situations, especially triggered

by

> > dashas

> > > and transits.

> > >

> > > 2H has LL Mars in friendly sign. But with rahu and aspected by an

exalted

> > > saturn from 12H and its lord jup from 8H. This shows that the

native has

> > > much to do with speech and may have a profession connected with

speech,

> > but

> > > this same speech also hampers the marital serenity as mars in 8H

from 7th

> > is

> > > not in a friendly situation.

> > >

> > > 6H has exalted 10L sun with mercury, aspected by an exalted

Saturn. Shows

> > a

> > > career related to law. But at the same time, this being 6H of

disputes

> > and

> > > 12H from 7H, it happens at the expense of marriage and

professional

> > > compulsions also come into play.

> > >

> > > 10L is in 6H which is good for profession, but not so good for

marital

> > > happiness. This position can create difficulties and discords as

10H is

> > > marital happiness and its lord has gone to the 12H of losses.

> > >

> > > Overall, we see a picture of ups and downs where the native may

indulge

> > in

> > > verbal disagreements or disputes with her husband. It might be

more with

> > > relevant dasha and transit.

> > >

> > > At present, there is transit of ketu over her moon in 9H, and

Saturn in

> > 10H

> > > which can disturb the mind and happiness of marriage.

> > >

> > > 9H related dasha/transit is not good for marriage as it is loss of

> > marital

> > > happiness with sudden obstacles/problems (3H from 7th)

> > >

> > > Let us have more on this and husband's chart.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Neelam

> > >

> >

>

October 12, 2008

Lal Kitab perspective :

Dear Bhaskar ji,

During the 48th year you have mercury + Sun in the 1st house. For

mercury it is said ghar pakka jis grah ka hoga vahan vahi ban

bhaith ta ho , here the mercury will also give the results of the

sun. Since the sun is considered exalted in the 1st house, the

mercury would also give exalted results. It becomes all the more

auspicious with the sun and that too in Leo.

Since the sun is your lagnesh, this combination of the mercury and

the sun in the 1st house will make a very big positive change in

your personality, confidence , health etc.

The Lal Kitab further says ghar pahale 10 ghoomta raja, parivar dhan

deta ho. Therefore it will certainly give you financial gains.

For this combination in the 1st house the Lal Kitab says mantri

saman salahkar, hare bhare jangal ki kismet mein shan hogi, ganit

vidya aur yogabhyas se labh hoga, dhani, rajdarbar se nek talluq, am

darbari jhagaron ka faisala haq mein hoga.

Since the mercury is of shani swabhav [ worked out through a

formula] which is placed in the 10th house during the 48th year,

therefore it should affect your profession also very positively. It

will be good for any business enterprise.

As a novice in Lal Kitab this is what I make out of your sun +

mercury placement in lagna for this year.

Sincerely,

S P Khurana

, " Bhaskar "

<rajiventerprises wrote:

>

> Dear Khuranaji and Jaswalji,

>

> What about those with Mercury in the 11th in the Natal Chart ?

>

> In the 48th year, this Mercury comes to the 1 st House, in the

annual

> chart.

>

> Does it not make the native wealthy and prosperous in the years

48th,

> 57th and the 72nd year ?

>

> Some one mentioned " about evil sensous feelings " . I would say

that we

> are past such ages of evil intentions coming to our minds,

considering

> the path of astrology which we are treading, but yes, temptations

can be

> a plenty for whole Life long, which have to be countered with

positive

> and dharmic righteousness feelings by any native who has to

progress on

> the spiritual paths.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

> , " khurana_satpal "

> <khurana_satpal@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jaswal ji,

> >

> > What Pt. Gopesh Kumar Ojha ji has said is also said in Lal

Kitab. In

> > Arun Sanhita on page 241 for ketu the book says " sansar ke kam

hal

> > karne ke liye, idhar udhar salah karne ke liye daur dhoop ka yah

48

> > sala ayu ka samay Ketu ka samay hoga "

> >

> > Sincerely,

> >

> > S P Khurana

> >

> > , " Ram Jaswal "

> > rkjaswal@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Bhaskarji

> > >

> > > Thanks for the reply confirming most â€œcommonâ€ traits

> of Ketu in

> > 7th Hse â€¦â€¦

> > >

> > > Per Pundit Gopesh Kumar Ojha Ketuâ€™s â€œgreat

> yearâ€ is 48 â€¦quot; which you

> > have just begun. Again I take Ketu to co-lord Scorpio hence

> > affecting your 4th & 7th Hseâ€™s â€¦quot; please take extra care

> regarding

> > both during this year â€¦â€¦.

> > >

> > > Re:Pundit Bhooshanji â€¦quot; in that group he only answers

queries

> from

> > those seeking help directly and doesnâ€™t partake in any Lal

> Kitab

> > discussions. If wishing to discuss then

> > join â€œlalkitab â€ group.

> > >

> > > Per Jaimini your AK is Venus hence life lesson is to be a

> â€œclean

> > person without any ill thoughts towards fair sex leading a satwik

> > lifeâ€ whilst your Ista Devata is Ganapati/Skanda as signified

> by

> > Ketu implying aspirations of Moksha. Your Dharma Devata is

> > Shiva/Shri Ram ji â€¦â€¦.

> > >

> > > Best wishes â€¦â€¦.

> > >

> > > Jai Sita Ram

> > >

> > > Ram

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > On Behalf Of

> > Bhaskar

> > > 11 October 2008 19:07

> > >

> > > Re: Rahu Kalam - Please

read

> > this . Its revealing.

> > >

> > > Dear Ram Jaiswalji,

> > >

> > > I have already put a query about a year back in Group of Priya

> > > Bhooshanji, whic was not about my personal chart, but about

some

> > > technical confirmations, which did not even eecit a response,

> > forget any

> > > reply, after that I never visited that Forum ever. But if you

> > suggest

> > > then I may post a enquiry there one of these days, but I do my

> > studies

> > > myself on my chart, and do not take whatever anyone says at

deep

> > level,

> > > but just at surface level.

> > >

> > > About Ketu in my 7th house , I will comment later on, but as

per

> > lal

> > > Kitab, it is supposed to offer favourable results when native

> > attains

> > > age of 55. And also when the native son attains major age.

> > >

> > > Yes My wife is very hot tempered, but she is also very

religious,

> > and

> > > whatever she utters, comes our true. If she curses someone it

will

> > come

> > > out true, if she blesses someone it will manifest. She is a

stauch

> > lover

> > > of Hanuman Baba and Shrikrishna, and a daughter from a family

of

> > > devotees and from a very rich business family . When she

> > criticises with

> > > her 3 inch tongue even a man of 6 feet will be mowed down like

a

> > > spineless rubber, and when she praises, then the praise will be

> > geuine.

> > > She certainly holds respect from all those who come in contact

> > with her.

> > > This much info. is enough for the moment, about her.

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ <%

> > 40> astrology , " Ram Jaswal "

> > > <rkjaswal@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Bhaskarji

> > > >

> > > > Re:Lal Kitab may I suggest your contacting Pundit Priya

> > Bhooshanji of

> > > Ã¢â‚¬Å¦quot;@

> <%40>

> > Ã¢â‚¬Â?

> > > >

> > > > Personally speaking I feel Ketu is the Graha to be

propitiated?

> > If I

> > > may ask is your wife of a Ã¢â‚¬Å¦quot;short temperÃ¢â‚¬Â as

> Ketu in 7th

> > > Hse generally denotes this amongst other things?

Re:disagreements

> > during

> > > Rahu Kalam periods I assume generally as opposed from only

> > Fridays? Per

> > > Vim you are currently in Rahu/Rahu/Mer and Chara Tau/Aqu Ã¢â‚¬ "

> I

> > > consider Rahu as co-lord of Aqu hence understandable 7th Hse

focus

> > > during said periods Ã¢â‚¬Â¦.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes Ã¢â‚¬Â¦..

> > > >

> > > > Jai Sita Ram

> > > >

> > > > Ram

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ <%

> > 40> astrology

> > > [ancient_indian_ <%

> > 40> astrology ] On Behalf Of

> > > khurana_satpal

> > > > 11 October 2008 13:04

> > > > ancient_indian_ <%

> > 40> astrology

> > > > Re: Rahu Kalam - Please

read

> > this

> > > . Its revealing.

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sunil ji,

> > > >

> > > > I am still a novice as far as the Lal Kitab is concerned.

> > Devising

> > > > Lal Kitab upaya is a very serious matter and should not be

done

> > by

> > > > beginners like me. Therefore I suggest that Bhaskar ji should

> > > > consult some senior Lal Kitab scholar/s. I will not be in a

> > position

> > > > to suggest any name either.

> > > >

> > > > Sincerely,

> > > >

> > > > S P Khurana

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

> > ps.com, " sunil nair "

> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hare rama krishna

> > > > >

> > > > > dear satpal khurana ji ,

> > > > >

> > > > > many many thanks for giving us Lal kitab perspectivses .I

> > always

> > > > > wonder always abt any system of indian predictiv systems

will b

> > > > > contributing to each other than contradicting each other .

> > > > >

> > > > > what ever way we look it ,is not a matter of concern

wheter its

> > > > > various astrology form s or hand reading or samudrika

> > sastra .We

> > > > must b

> > > > > gr8ful to our ancesters and gr8 rishis for giving us such

a gr8

> > > > sciences

> > > > > which is helping humanity in general .

> > > > >

> > > > > Now sir one thing u dont made it clear .U said " Therefore

> > Bhaskar

> > > > ji

> > > > > will have to do some thing for his Venus in order to

normalize

> > the

> > > > > situation "

> > > > >

> > > > > can u suggest remedies what shud b done by bhaskar ji ,so

the

> > > > nativ is

> > > > > out of this kind of pestering problem tho it is not seems

to b

> > big

> > > > >

> > > > > after all this is for reliving the tension and

problems .so the

> > > > remedial

> > > > > measures r important . can u suggest tru grp or mail

> > > > >

> > > > > by the by Bhaskarjis computer is in trouble and his access

is

> > > > limited i

> > > > > heard frm him yestrday ,so i dont know when he will b

> > comfortable

> > > > with

> > > > > that .

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank u for trying the chart

> > > > >

> > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > >

> > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

> > ps.com, " khurana_satpal "

> > > > > <khurana_satpal@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sunil Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lal Kitab Perspective:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I had been reading with academic interest Bhaskar

> jiÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s

> > > > > > predicament during Rahu Kal. I did look at his problem

with

> > the

> > > > Lal

> > > > > > Kitab perspective.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar jiÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ s contention that Venus

> happens to be the

> > > main

> > > > > > culprit is also borne out through the Lal Kitab.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar ji is currently in his 48th year. In his 48th

year

> > Varsh

> > > > Phal

> > > > > > chart Venus is placed in the 4th house for which the Lal

> > Kitab

> > > > says :

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã… " Shukra chauthe jab paani ayaa, aurat hua

> > > bairagÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â when

> > > > > > the venus comes to the 4th house , it sets in a certain

> > amount of

> > > > > > disenchantment. ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã… " aurat hua

> bairagÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â can be

> > > interpreted

> > > > > > both ways : that he gets disenchanted , it can also mean

> > that in

> > > > her

> > > > > too

> > > > > > the fire of passion is no longer as strong.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I believe his Rahu Kal predicament would have been

pronounced

> > > > after

> > > > > June

> > > > > > this year and is likely to last till June next year i.e.

> > during

> > > > his

> > > > > > entire 48th year.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But why should it happen during the Rahu Kal specially ?

The

> > Lal

> > > > Kitab

> > > > > > doesnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t say any thing about it

> because in North India

> > > specially

> > > > > > the hill regions where the Lal Kitab originated from,

Rahu

> > Kal

> > > > is not

> > > > > > much talked about. But in astrological terms Venus and

the

> > Rahu

> > > > are

> > > > > > enemies therefore the adverse effects of venus would come

> > forth

> > > > during

> > > > > > the period when Rahu is strong, more so during his

Rahu/Rahu

> > > > dasha.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Therefore Bhaskar ji will have to do some thing for his

> > Venus in

> > > > order

> > > > > > to normalize the situation.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > S P Khurana

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

> > ps.com, " sunil nair "

> > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hare rama krishna

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dear astro surfer ji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for ur views .yes dasa also supports it i hope

such

> > > > trends

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > go down after this month .we will get feed backs frm

sri

> > > > bhaskar ji

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > sure and we can update our undrstanding too .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i blv his sani has some spiritual mission which rahu is

> > > > entrusted

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > sani being 7th L etc acting tru venus also the karaka

for

> > > > neccessary

> > > > > > > fire needed for spiritulaity .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > let us wait and i hope other memebrs also will giv some

> > > > opinions

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > also i wud lov to hear opinion frm lal kitabies in grp

> > too .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

> > ps.com, " astro.surfer "

> > > > > > > astro.surfer@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji, Bhaskar ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Why don't you think that Ketu in 7H is the real

culprit?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rahu and Mars hold the steering, but what is venus

doing

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > > chart?

> > > > > > > > It is the SAARTHI? showing the direction where the

native

> > > > will be

> > > > > > > > heading. In 9H in LL Sun's constellation. Lagna

rising in

> > > > venus

> > > > > > star.

> > > > > > > > It is very important to understand this venus as he

is

> > the

> > > > > > > > karma-dharmadhipati. The native will never be able to

> > escape

> > > > > venus,

> > > > > > > > though he might keep running from it, but it will

always

> > > > give good

> > > > > > > > things in life, things that native will love to

cherish

> > and

> > > > keep

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > > his prized possessions.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Venus is the Atmakarak, the planet to take him

vaitarni

> > paar.

> > > > > Venus

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > AL in 9H with and arudh of 9H in 5H of poorv punya.

It

> > is no

> > > > one

> > > > > > else

> > > > > > > > but a projection of self. Venus is the soul of this

> > chart.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Venus gives 7 ashtakvarga points aries and 6 in leo.

See

> > the

> > > > > subtle

> > > > > > > > root connection with lagna and LL. In vimsamsh, venus

> > takes

> > > > charge

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > the wheel with mars and sun in the 7H.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mars, the YK fully energises this venus, who is in

> > martian

> > > > sign in

> > > > > > D-1

> > > > > > > > and aspected by mars in D-9. Rahu, who is mars

> > personified,

> > > > is

> > > > > fully

> > > > > > > > aspecting with a backward glance.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Venus does not fully represent spouse in the chart,

it is

> > > > only the

> > > > > > > > karak for 7H in 9H. It has no relation with 7H and

7L in

> > > > natal

> > > > > chart

> > > > > > > > as well as D-9, whereas Saturn represents wife being

7L,

> > 7L

> > > > in 7H

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > navamsha and Dk. It is saturn all the way, with Jup,

> > mars and

> > > > > Rahu.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rahu-kaalam impact on wife could be because ketu is

> > there in

> > > > 7H in

> > > > > > > > dhanishtha. Ketu in 7H is responsible for unnecessary

> > > > disputes

> > > > > > between

> > > > > > > > partners and causes disillusion and

misunderstandings.

> > So in

> > > > > > > > rahu-kaalam, this can surface more. Where as being

in 9H,

> > > > venus

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > > promote religious affairs and it made him do durga

> > > > saptashati in

> > > > > > rahu

> > > > > > > > kalam. The fault lies with ketu, not venus. Also sun

and

> > > > > retrograde

> > > > > > > > mercury in Rahu's nakshatra in 2H from AK and

Karkamsh,

> > can

> > > > make

> > > > > him

> > > > > > > > say unpleasant things in rahu-kaalam, especially

dasha

> > and

> > > > antar

> > > > > > > > supporting.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What are the impulses that this venus gives? Venus

the

> > > > primordial

> > > > > > > > shakti, venus the ardhnaareeshwar in the chart, his

own

> > other

> > > > > self.

> > > > > > > > Venus is in sagitarius in navamsh, the natural 9H

again.

> > This

> > > > > venus

> > > > > > > > relates to dharma.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What is it that he would like from the bottom of his

> > heart?

> > > > What

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > be the innermost urges? I am sure it is all possible

> > combined

> > > > > > > > significations of venus in 9H.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please correct me if I am wrong in my understanding.

I am

> > > > only a

> > > > > > > learner.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Best regards

> > > > > > > > Astrosurfer

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

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>

October 12, 2008

Dear Ram ji,

Thanks. I will note this down. But JHora gives a latitude and

longitude for Kent in UK.

May be I'm wrong..please correct me if so.

blessings

Renu

, " Ram Jaswal "

<rkjaswal wrote:

>

> Namaste Renu

>

> Would you happen to have the Place of Birth in Kent? Incase if not

already aware Kent is a County (State) in England and not a

town/city hence the question.

>

> Thanks and regards â€¦â€¦

>

> Jai Sita Ram

>

> Ram

>

> _____

>

On Behalf Of renunw

> 12 October 2008 12:05

>

> Re: Rahu Kalam - Please read

this . Its revealing.

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>

> I can but only agree with your revelations and thanks for the same.

>

> // He said that for a Leo person, marital happiness would be a

rarity,

> unles he has very fortunate combinations in his chart for the

same //

>

> I've noticed this in quite a few Leo natives, though I don't have

their

> charts with me. Either their marriages are in jeopardy or they are

> divorced, separated, widowed etc.

>

> But there may be exceptions...

>

> I know a young couple who got married 2 years ago, Leo husband and

> Scorpio wife,......so far everything is a smooth sail for them. The

> husband is very caring and loving, and now the family is complete

with a

> baby girl. I've got only the chart of the husband with me. If

anybody

> is interested, in the Leo- Scorpio duel...sorry dual, let me give

the

> horoscope of the husband. I will try to get the wife's chart if

> possible.

>

> 6th September 1979 @ 6.06 AM in Kent, UK.

>

> blessings

>

> Renu

>

> ancient_indian_ <%

40> astrology , " Bhaskar "

> <rajiventerprises@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Renuji,

> >

> > You have also taken up a good observation.

> >

> > As students our astrology class was also party to many off beat

> > discussions apart from our syllabus. I remember vividly one of my

> > Professors who is now a old man and a experienced astrologer

both in

> > Sayana and Nirayana.

> >

> > He said that for a Leo person, marital happiness would be a

rarity,

> > unles he has very fortunate combinations in his chart for the

same.

> This

> > is because Sun having ownership of the 1st house for Leo, and

Saturn

> > having ownership of the 7th house for Leo, are both sworn

enemies.

> Next,

> > Saturn is also the Lord of the 6th house, which adds to the

bitterness

> > in the marriage, as the 6th house traits are always the cause for

> > incompatibilities, and if they conjoin with the 12th and 8th,

then it

> is

> > a definite Divorce or seperation.

> >

> > A Leo nativity can suppress all the other natives bearing all

> ascendants

> > except for Scorpio.

> >

> > A Scorpio nativity can suppress all the other natives bearing all

> > ascendants, except Leo.

> >

> > So here we have the clash of Titans , whenever the clash takes

place

> it

> > would be a enjoyable scene for the neighbours.

> >

> > In our case we both have strong Mars in our lagnas, so when we

enter

> > into a clash, anybody else coming in the firing range would be

> clobbered

> > mercilessly.

> >

> > That is something to chew upon, this Sunday.

> >

> > Enjoy,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> > ancient_indian_ <%

40> astrology , " renunw " renunw@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > >

> > > Thanks for commencing an interesting and educative discussion.

I was

> > > keenly attentive throughout the discussion, for a good reason

too.

> > > Leo husband + Scorpion wife is something personal to me, and

seems

> > > to create problems during the current planetary movements....

or is

> > > it inherent in their nature?

> > >

> > > I am not surprised of your wife's 'hot temper and religious

> > > inclination', both traits will go hand in hand quite

> > > comfortably.....I would say this is the 'true Scorpion spirit'.

> > >

> > > blessings,

> > >

> > > Renu

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ <%

40> astrology , " Bhaskar "

> > > rajiventerprises@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ram Jaiswalji,

> > > >

> > > > I have already put a query about a year back in Group of

Priya

> > > > Bhooshanji, whic was not about my personal chart, but about

some

> > > > technical confirmations, which did not even eecit a response,

> > > forget any

> > > > reply, after that I never visited that Forum ever. But if you

> > > suggest

> > > > then I may post a enquiry there one of these days, but I do

my

> > > studies

> > > > myself on my chart, and do not take whatever anyone says at

deep

> > > level,

> > > > but just at surface level.

> > > >

> > > > About Ketu in my 7th house , I will comment later on, but as

per

> > > lal

> > > > Kitab, it is supposed to offer favourable results when native

> > > attains

> > > > age of 55. And also when the native son attains major age.

> > > >

> > > > Yes Mytempered, but she wife is very hot is also very

religious,

> > > and

> > > > whatever she utters, comes our true. If she curses someone

it will

> > > come

> > > > out true, if she blesses someone it will manifest. She is a

stauch

> > > lover

> > > > of Hanuman Baba and Shrikrishna, and a daughter from a

family of

> > > > devotees and from a very rich business family . When she

> > > criticises with

> > > > her 3 inch tongue even a man of 6 feet will be mowed down

like a

> > > > spineless rubber, and when she praises, then the praise will

be

> > > geuine.

> > > > She certainly holds respect from all those who come in

contact

> > > with her.

> > > > This much info. is enough for the moment, about her.

> > > >

> > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ <%

40> astrology , " Ram Jaswal "

> > > > <rkjaswal@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Bhaskarji

> > > > >

> > > > > Re:Lal Kitab may I suggest your contacting Pundit Priya

> > > Bhooshanji of

> > > > Ã¢â‚¬Å " @ <%

40> Ã¢â‚¬Â?

> > > > >

> > > > > Personally speaking I feel Ketu is the Graha to be

propitiated?

> > > If I

> > > > may ask is your wife of a Ã¢â‚¬Å " short temperÃ¢â‚¬Â as Ketu

in

> > 7th

> > > > Hse generally denotes this amongst other things?

Re:disagreements

> > > during

> > > > Rahu Kalam periods I assume generally as opposed from only

> > > Fridays? Per

> > > > Vim you are currently in Rahu/Rahu/Mer and Chara Tau/Aqu Ã¢

â‚¬ " I

> > > > consider Rahu as co-lord of Aqu hence understandable 7th Hse

focus

> > > > during said periods Ã¢â‚¬Â¦.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes Ã¢â‚¬Â¦..

> > > > >

> > > > > Jai Sita Ram

> > > > >

> > > > > Ram

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ <%

40> astrology

> > > > [ancient_indian_ <%

40> astrology ] On Behalf Of

> > > > khurana_satpal

> > > > > 11 October 2008 13:04

> > > > > ancient_indian_ <%

40> astrology

> > > > > Re: Rahu Kalam -

Please read

> > > this

> > > > . Its revealing.

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sunil ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I am still a novice as far as the Lal Kitab is concerned.

> > > Devising

> > > > > Lal Kitab upaya is a very serious matter and should not be

done

> > > by

> > > > > beginners like me. Therefore I suggest that Bhaskar ji

should

> > > > > consult some senior Lal Kitab scholar/s. I will not be in a

> > > position

> > > > > to suggest any name either.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > >

> > > > > S P Khurana

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com, " sunil nair "

> > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hare rama krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear satpal khurana ji ,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > many many thanks for giving us Lal kitab perspectivses .I

> > > always

> > > > > > wonder always abt any system of indian predictiv systems

will

> b

> > > > > > contributing to each other than contradicting each

other .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > what ever way we look it ,is not a matter of concern

wheter

> its

> > > > > > various astrology form s or hand reading or samudrika

> > > sastra .We

> > > > > must b

> > > > > > gr8ful to our ancesters and gr8 rishis for giving us

such a

> gr8

> > > > > sciences

> > > > > > which is helping humanity in general .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now sir one thing u dont made it clear .U said " Therefore

> > > Bhaskar

> > > > > ji

> > > > > > will have to do some thing for his Venus in order to

normalize

> > > the

> > > > > > situation "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > can u suggest remedies what shud b done by bhaskar

ji ,so the

> > > > > nativ is

> > > > > > out of this kind of pestering problem tho it is not

seems to b

> > > big

> > > > > >

> > > > > > after all this is for reliving the tension and

problems .so

> the

> > > > > remedial

> > > > > > measures r important . can u suggest tru grp or mail

> > > > > >

> > > > > > by the by Bhaskarjis computer is in trouble and his

access is

> > > > > limited i

> > > > > > heard frm him yestrday ,so i dont know when he will b

> > > comfortable

> > > > > with

> > > > > > that .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank u for trying the chart

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > > >

> > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com, " khurana_satpal "

> > > > > > <khurana_satpal@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Sunil Ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lal Kitab Perspective:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I had been reading with academic interest Bhaskar

> > jiÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s

> > > > > > > predicament during Rahu Kal. I did look at his problem

with

> > > the

> > > > > Lal

> > > > > > > Kitab perspective.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskar jiÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ s contention that Venus

happens to

> be

> > the

> > > > main

> > > > > > > culprit is also borne out through the Lal Kitab.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskar ji is currently in his 48th year. In his 48th

year

> > > Varsh

> > > > > Phal

> > > > > > > chart Venus is placed in the 4th house for which the

Lal

> > > Kitab

> > > > > says :

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã… " Shukra chauthe jab paani ayaa, aurat hua

> > > > bairagÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â when

> > > > > > > the venus comes to the 4th house , it sets in a certain

> > > amount of

> > > > > > > disenchantment. ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã… " aurat hua bairagÃƒÂ¢Ã¢

â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â can

> > be

> > > > interpreted

> > > > > > > both ways : that he gets disenchanted , it can also

mean

> > > that in

> > > > > her

> > > > > > too

> > > > > > > the fire of passion is no longer as strong.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I believe his Rahu Kal predicament would have been

> pronounced

> > > > > after

> > > > > > June

> > > > > > > this year and is likely to last till June next year

i.e.

> > > during

> > > > > his

> > > > > > > entire 48th year.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But why should it happen during the Rahu Kal

specially ? The

> > > Lal

> > > > > Kitab

> > > > > > > doesnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t say any thing about it

because in North

> > India

> > > > specially

> > > > > > > the hill regions where the Lal Kitab originated from,

Rahu

> > > Kal

> > > > > is not

> > > > > > > much talked about. But in astrological terms Venus and

the

> > > Rahu

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > enemies therefore the adverse effects of venus would

come

> > > forth

> > > > > during

> > > > > > > the period when Rahu is strong, more so during his

Rahu/Rahu

> > > > > dasha.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Therefore Bhaskar ji will have to do some thing for his

> > > Venus in

> > > > > order

> > > > > > > to normalize the situation.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > S P Khurana

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com, " sunil nair "

> > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > dear astro surfer ji

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks for ur views .yes dasa also supports it i

hope such

> > > > > trends

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > go down after this month .we will get feed backs frm

sri

> > > > > bhaskar ji

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > sure and we can update our undrstanding too .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i blv his sani has some spiritual mission which rahu

is

> > > > > entrusted

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > sani being 7th L etc acting tru venus also the

karaka for

> > > > > neccessary

> > > > > > > > fire needed for spiritulaity .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > let us wait and i hope other memebrs also will giv

some

> > > > > opinions

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > also i wud lov to hear opinion frm lal kitabies in

grp

> > > too .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com, " astro.surfer "

> > > > > > > > astro.surfer@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji, Bhaskar ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Why don't you think that Ketu in 7H is the real

culprit?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rahu and Mars hold the steering, but what is venus

doing

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > chart?

> > > > > > > > > It is the SAARTHI? showing the direction where the

> native

> > > > > will be

> > > > > > > > > heading. In 9H in LL Sun's constellation. Lagna

rising

> in

> > > > > venus

> > > > > > > star.

> > > > > > > > > It is very important to understand this venus as

he is

> > > the

> > > > > > > > > karma-dharmadhipati. The native will never be able

to

> > > escape

> > > > > > venus,

> > > > > > > > > though he might keep running from it, but it will

always

> > > > > give good

> > > > > > > > > things in life, things that native will love to

cherish

> > > and

> > > > > keep

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > his prized possessions.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Venus is the Atmakarak, the planet to take him

vaitarni

> > > paar.

> > > > > > Venus

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > AL in 9H with and arudh of 9H in 5H of poorv

punya. It

> > > is no

> > > > > one

> > > > > > > else

> > > > > > > > > but a projection of self. Venus is the soul of this

> > > chart.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Venus gives 7 ashtakvarga points aries and 6 in

leo. See

> > > the

> > > > > > subtle

> > > > > > > > > root connection with lagna and LL. In vimsamsh,

venus

> > > takes

> > > > > charge

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > the wheel with mars and sun in the 7H.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mars, the YK fully energises this venus, who is in

> > > martian

> > > > > sign in

> > > > > > > D-1

> > > > > > > > > and aspected by mars in D-9. Rahu, who is mars

> > > personified,

> > > > > is

> > > > > > fully

> > > > > > > > > aspecting with a backward glance.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Venus does not fully represent spouse in the

chart, it

> is

> > > > > only the

> > > > > > > > > karak for 7H in 9H. It has no relation with 7H and

7L in

> > > > > natal

> > > > > > chart

> > > > > > > > > as well as D-9, whereas Saturn represents wife

being 7L,

> > > 7L

> > > > > in 7H

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > navamsha and Dk. It is saturn all the way, with

Jup,

> > > mars and

> > > > > > Rahu.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rahu-kaalam impact on wife could be because ketu is

> > > there in

> > > > > 7H in

> > > > > > > > > dhanishtha. Ketu in 7H is responsible for

unnecessary

> > > > > disputes

> > > > > > > between

> > > > > > > > > partners and causes disillusion and

misunderstandings.

> > > So in

> > > > > > > > > rahu-kaalam, this can surface more. Where as being

in

> 9H,

> > > > > venus

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > promote religious affairs and it made him do durga

> > > > > saptashati in

> > > > > > > rahu

> > > > > > > > > kalam. The fault lies with ketu, not venus. Also

sun and

> > > > > > retrograde

> > > > > > > > > mercury in Rahu's nakshatra in 2H from AK and

Karkamsh,

> > > can

> > > > > make

> > > > > > him

> > > > > > > > > say unpleasant things in rahu-kaalam, especially

dasha

> > > and

> > > > > antar

> > > > > > > > > supporting.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What are the impulses that this venus gives? Venus

the

> > > > > primordial

> > > > > > > > > shakti, venus the ardhnaareeshwar in the chart,

his own

> > > other

> > > > > > self.

> > > > > > > > > Venus is in sagitarius in navamsh, the natural 9H

again.

> > > This

> > > > > > venus

> > > > > > > > > relates to dharma.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What is it that he would like from the bottom of

his

> > > heart?

> > > > > What

> > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > be the innermost urges? I am sure it is all

possible

> > > combined

> > > > > > > > > significations of venus in 9H.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please correct me if I am wrong in my

understanding. I

> am

> > > > > only a

> > > > > > > > learner.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Best regards

> > > > > > > > > Astrosurfer

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

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October 12, 2008

Dear Shri Khuranaji,

Yes thats good. Thank You.

Everyone likes to hear nice results. So You made me happy.

This year I have Jupiter and Saturn together in the 10th house, which

also I suppose would be positive.

regards/Bhaskar.

, " khurana_satpal "

<khurana_satpal wrote:

>

> Lal Kitab perspective :

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>

> During the 48th year you have mercury + Sun in the 1st house. For

> mercury it is said ghar pakka jis grah ka hoga vahan vahi ban

> bhaith ta ho , here the mercury will also give the results of the

> sun. Since the sun is considered exalted in the 1st house, the

> mercury would also give exalted results. It becomes all the more

> auspicious with the sun and that too in Leo.

>

> Since the sun is your lagnesh, this combination of the mercury and

> the sun in the 1st house will make a very big positive change in

> your personality, confidence , health etc.

>

> The Lal Kitab further says ghar pahale 10 ghoomta raja, parivar dhan

> deta ho. Therefore it will certainly give you financial gains.

>

> For this combination in the 1st house the Lal Kitab says mantri

> saman salahkar, hare bhare jangal ki kismet mein shan hogi, ganit

> vidya aur yogabhyas se labh hoga, dhani, rajdarbar se nek talluq, am

> darbari jhagaron ka faisala haq mein hoga.

>

> Since the mercury is of shani swabhav [ worked out through a

> formula] which is placed in the 10th house during the 48th year,

> therefore it should affect your profession also very positively. It

> will be good for any business enterprise.

>

> As a novice in Lal Kitab this is what I make out of your sun +

> mercury placement in lagna for this year.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> S P Khurana

>

, " Bhaskar "

> rajiventerprises@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Khuranaji and Jaswalji,

> >

> > What about those with Mercury in the 11th in the Natal Chart ?

> >

> > In the 48th year, this Mercury comes to the 1 st House, in the

> annual

> > chart.

> >

> > Does it not make the native wealthy and prosperous in the years

> 48th,

> > 57th and the 72nd year ?

> >

> > Some one mentioned " about evil sensous feelings " . I would say

> that we

> > are past such ages of evil intentions coming to our minds,

> considering

> > the path of astrology which we are treading, but yes, temptations

> can be

> > a plenty for whole Life long, which have to be countered with

> positive

> > and dharmic righteousness feelings by any native who has to

> progress on

> > the spiritual paths.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> > , " khurana_satpal "

> > <khurana_satpal@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Jaswal ji,

> > >

> > > What Pt. Gopesh Kumar Ojha ji has said is also said in Lal

> Kitab. In

> > > Arun Sanhita on page 241 for ketu the book says " sansar ke kam

> hal

> > > karne ke liye, idhar udhar salah karne ke liye daur dhoop ka yah

> 48

> > > sala ayu ka samay Ketu ka samay hoga "

> > >

> > > Sincerely,

> > >

> > > S P Khurana

> > >

> > > , " Ram Jaswal "

> > > rkjaswal@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Bhaskarji

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for the reply confirming most â€œcommonâ€

traits

> > of Ketu in

> > > 7th Hse â€¦â€¦

> > > >

> > > > Per Pundit Gopesh Kumar Ojha Ketuâ€™s â€œgreat

> > yearâ€ is 48 â€¦quot; which you

> > > have just begun. Again I take Ketu to co-lord Scorpio hence

> > > affecting your 4th & 7th Hseâ€™s â€¦quot; please take

extra care

> > regarding

> > > both during this year â€¦â€¦.

> > > >

> > > > Re:Pundit Bhooshanji â€¦quot; in that group he only answers

> queries

> > from

> > > those seeking help directly and doesnâ€™t partake in any Lal

> > Kitab

> > > discussions. If wishing to discuss then

> > > join â€œlalkitab â€ group.

> > > >

> > > > Per Jaimini your AK is Venus hence life lesson is to be a

> > â€œclean

> > > person without any ill thoughts towards fair sex leading a satwik

> > > lifeâ€ whilst your Ista Devata is Ganapati/Skanda as

signified

> > by

> > > Ketu implying aspirations of Moksha. Your Dharma Devata is

> > > Shiva/Shri Ram ji â€¦â€¦.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes â€¦â€¦.

> > > >

> > > > Jai Sita Ram

> > > >

> > > > Ram

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > On Behalf Of

> > > Bhaskar

> > > > 11 October 2008 19:07

> > > >

> > > > Re: Rahu Kalam - Please

> read

> > > this . Its revealing.

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ram Jaiswalji,

> > > >

> > > > I have already put a query about a year back in Group of Priya

> > > > Bhooshanji, whic was not about my personal chart, but about

> some

> > > > technical confirmations, which did not even eecit a response,

> > > forget any

> > > > reply, after that I never visited that Forum ever. But if you

> > > suggest

> > > > then I may post a enquiry there one of these days, but I do my

> > > studies

> > > > myself on my chart, and do not take whatever anyone says at

> deep

> > > level,

> > > > but just at surface level.

> > > >

> > > > About Ketu in my 7th house , I will comment later on, but as

> per

> > > lal

> > > > Kitab, it is supposed to offer favourable results when native

> > > attains

> > > > age of 55. And also when the native son attains major age.

> > > >

> > > > Yes My wife is very hot tempered, but she is also very

> religious,

> > > and

> > > > whatever she utters, comes our true. If she curses someone it

> will

> > > come

> > > > out true, if she blesses someone it will manifest. She is a

> stauch

> > > lover

> > > > of Hanuman Baba and Shrikrishna, and a daughter from a family

> of

> > > > devotees and from a very rich business family . When she

> > > criticises with

> > > > her 3 inch tongue even a man of 6 feet will be mowed down like

> a

> > > > spineless rubber, and when she praises, then the praise will be

> > > geuine.

> > > > She certainly holds respect from all those who come in contact

> > > with her.

> > > > This much info. is enough for the moment, about her.

> > > >

> > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ <%

> > > 40> astrology , " Ram Jaswal "

> > > > <rkjaswal@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Bhaskarji

> > > > >

> > > > > Re:Lal Kitab may I suggest your contacting Pundit Priya

> > > Bhooshanji of

> > > > Ã¢â‚¬Å¦quot;@

> > <%40>

> > > Ã¢â‚¬Â?

> > > > >

> > > > > Personally speaking I feel Ketu is the Graha to be

> propitiated?

> > > If I

> > > > may ask is your wife of a Ã¢â‚¬Å¦quot;short

temperÃ¢â‚¬Â as

> > Ketu in 7th

> > > > Hse generally denotes this amongst other things?

> Re:disagreements

> > > during

> > > > Rahu Kalam periods I assume generally as opposed from only

> > > Fridays? Per

> > > > Vim you are currently in Rahu/Rahu/Mer and Chara Tau/Aqu

Ã¢â‚¬ "

> > I

> > > > consider Rahu as co-lord of Aqu hence understandable 7th Hse

> focus

> > > > during said periods Ã¢â‚¬Â¦.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes Ã¢â‚¬Â¦..

> > > > >

> > > > > Jai Sita Ram

> > > > >

> > > > > Ram

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ <%

> > > 40> astrology

> > > > [ancient_indian_ <%

> > > 40> astrology ] On Behalf Of

> > > > khurana_satpal

> > > > > 11 October 2008 13:04

> > > > > ancient_indian_ <%

> > > 40> astrology

> > > > > Re: Rahu Kalam - Please

> read

> > > this

> > > > . Its revealing.

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sunil ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I am still a novice as far as the Lal Kitab is concerned.

> > > Devising

> > > > > Lal Kitab upaya is a very serious matter and should not be

> done

> > > by

> > > > > beginners like me. Therefore I suggest that Bhaskar ji should

> > > > > consult some senior Lal Kitab scholar/s. I will not be in a

> > > position

> > > > > to suggest any name either.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > >

> > > > > S P Khurana

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

> > > ps.com, " sunil nair "

> > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hare rama krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear satpal khurana ji ,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > many many thanks for giving us Lal kitab perspectivses .I

> > > always

> > > > > > wonder always abt any system of indian predictiv systems

> will b

> > > > > > contributing to each other than contradicting each other .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > what ever way we look it ,is not a matter of concern

> wheter its

> > > > > > various astrology form s or hand reading or samudrika

> > > sastra .We

> > > > > must b

> > > > > > gr8ful to our ancesters and gr8 rishis for giving us such

> a gr8

> > > > > sciences

> > > > > > which is helping humanity in general .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now sir one thing u dont made it clear .U said " Therefore

> > > Bhaskar

> > > > > ji

> > > > > > will have to do some thing for his Venus in order to

> normalize

> > > the

> > > > > > situation "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > can u suggest remedies what shud b done by bhaskar ji ,so

> the

> > > > > nativ is

> > > > > > out of this kind of pestering problem tho it is not seems

> to b

> > > big

> > > > > >

> > > > > > after all this is for reliving the tension and

> problems .so the

> > > > > remedial

> > > > > > measures r important . can u suggest tru grp or mail

> > > > > >

> > > > > > by the by Bhaskarjis computer is in trouble and his access

> is

> > > > > limited i

> > > > > > heard frm him yestrday ,so i dont know when he will b

> > > comfortable

> > > > > with

> > > > > > that .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank u for trying the chart

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > > >

> > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

> > > ps.com, " khurana_satpal "

> > > > > > <khurana_satpal@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Sunil Ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lal Kitab Perspective:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I had been reading with academic interest Bhaskar

> > jiÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s

> > > > > > > predicament during Rahu Kal. I did look at his problem

> with

> > > the

> > > > > Lal

> > > > > > > Kitab perspective.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskar jiÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ s contention that

Venus

> > happens to be the

> > > > main

> > > > > > > culprit is also borne out through the Lal Kitab.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskar ji is currently in his 48th year. In his 48th

> year

> > > Varsh

> > > > > Phal

> > > > > > > chart Venus is placed in the 4th house for which the Lal

> > > Kitab

> > > > > says :

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã… " Shukra chauthe jab paani ayaa, aurat

hua

> > > > bairagÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â when

> > > > > > > the venus comes to the 4th house , it sets in a certain

> > > amount of

> > > > > > > disenchantment. ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã… " aurat hua

> > bairagÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â can be

> > > > interpreted

> > > > > > > both ways : that he gets disenchanted , it can also mean

> > > that in

> > > > > her

> > > > > > too

> > > > > > > the fire of passion is no longer as strong.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I believe his Rahu Kal predicament would have been

> pronounced

> > > > > after

> > > > > > June

> > > > > > > this year and is likely to last till June next year i.e.

> > > during

> > > > > his

> > > > > > > entire 48th year.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But why should it happen during the Rahu Kal specially ?

> The

> > > Lal

> > > > > Kitab

> > > > > > > doesnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t say any thing about it

> > because in North India

> > > > specially

> > > > > > > the hill regions where the Lal Kitab originated from,

> Rahu

> > > Kal

> > > > > is not

> > > > > > > much talked about. But in astrological terms Venus and

> the

> > > Rahu

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > enemies therefore the adverse effects of venus would come

> > > forth

> > > > > during

> > > > > > > the period when Rahu is strong, more so during his

> Rahu/Rahu

> > > > > dasha.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Therefore Bhaskar ji will have to do some thing for his

> > > Venus in

> > > > > order

> > > > > > > to normalize the situation.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > S P Khurana

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

> > > ps.com, " sunil nair "

> > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > dear astro surfer ji

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks for ur views .yes dasa also supports it i hope

> such

> > > > > trends

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > go down after this month .we will get feed backs frm

> sri

> > > > > bhaskar ji

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > sure and we can update our undrstanding too .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i blv his sani has some spiritual mission which rahu is

> > > > > entrusted

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > sani being 7th L etc acting tru venus also the karaka

> for

> > > > > neccessary

> > > > > > > > fire needed for spiritulaity .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > let us wait and i hope other memebrs also will giv some

> > > > > opinions

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > also i wud lov to hear opinion frm lal kitabies in grp

> > > too .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

> > > ps.com, " astro.surfer "

> > > > > > > > astro.surfer@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji, Bhaskar ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Why don't you think that Ketu in 7H is the real

> culprit?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rahu and Mars hold the steering, but what is venus

> doing

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > chart?

> > > > > > > > > It is the SAARTHI? showing the direction where the

> native

> > > > > will be

> > > > > > > > > heading. In 9H in LL Sun's constellation. Lagna

> rising in

> > > > > venus

> > > > > > > star.

> > > > > > > > > It is very important to understand this venus as he

> is

> > > the

> > > > > > > > > karma-dharmadhipati. The native will never be able to

> > > escape

> > > > > > venus,

> > > > > > > > > though he might keep running from it, but it will

> always

> > > > > give good

> > > > > > > > > things in life, things that native will love to

> cherish

> > > and

> > > > > keep

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > his prized possessions.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Venus is the Atmakarak, the planet to take him

> vaitarni

> > > paar.

> > > > > > Venus

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > AL in 9H with and arudh of 9H in 5H of poorv punya.

> It

> > > is no

> > > > > one

> > > > > > > else

> > > > > > > > > but a projection of self. Venus is the soul of this

> > > chart.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Venus gives 7 ashtakvarga points aries and 6 in leo.

> See

> > > the

> > > > > > subtle

> > > > > > > > > root connection with lagna and LL. In vimsamsh, venus

> > > takes

> > > > > charge

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > the wheel with mars and sun in the 7H.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mars, the YK fully energises this venus, who is in

> > > martian

> > > > > sign in

> > > > > > > D-1

> > > > > > > > > and aspected by mars in D-9. Rahu, who is mars

> > > personified,

> > > > > is

> > > > > > fully

> > > > > > > > > aspecting with a backward glance.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Venus does not fully represent spouse in the chart,

> it is

> > > > > only the

> > > > > > > > > karak for 7H in 9H. It has no relation with 7H and

> 7L in

> > > > > natal

> > > > > > chart

> > > > > > > > > as well as D-9, whereas Saturn represents wife being

> 7L,

> > > 7L

> > > > > in 7H

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > navamsha and Dk. It is saturn all the way, with Jup,

> > > mars and

> > > > > > Rahu.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rahu-kaalam impact on wife could be because ketu is

> > > there in

> > > > > 7H in

> > > > > > > > > dhanishtha. Ketu in 7H is responsible for unnecessary

> > > > > disputes

> > > > > > > between

> > > > > > > > > partners and causes disillusion and

> misunderstandings.

> > > So in

> > > > > > > > > rahu-kaalam, this can surface more. Where as being

> in 9H,

> > > > > venus

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > promote religious affairs and it made him do durga

> > > > > saptashati in

> > > > > > > rahu

> > > > > > > > > kalam. The fault lies with ketu, not venus. Also sun

> and

> > > > > > retrograde

> > > > > > > > > mercury in Rahu's nakshatra in 2H from AK and

> Karkamsh,

> > > can

> > > > > make

> > > > > > him

> > > > > > > > > say unpleasant things in rahu-kaalam, especially

> dasha

> > > and

> > > > > antar

> > > > > > > > > supporting.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What are the impulses that this venus gives? Venus

> the

> > > > > primordial

> > > > > > > > > shakti, venus the ardhnaareeshwar in the chart, his

> own

> > > other

> > > > > > self.

> > > > > > > > > Venus is in sagitarius in navamsh, the natural 9H

> again.

> > > This

> > > > > > venus

> > > > > > > > > relates to dharma.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What is it that he would like from the bottom of his

> > > heart?

> > > > > What

> > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > be the innermost urges? I am sure it is all possible

> > > combined

> > > > > > > > > significations of venus in 9H.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please correct me if I am wrong in my understanding.

> I am

> > > > > only a

> > > > > > > > learner.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Best regards

> > > > > > > > > Astrosurfer

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

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>

October 12, 2008

Dear Bharadwaj ji,

That was explained nicely.

So what I understand is that suppose this was a mans Horosope in which

Venus comes to the 4th in the annual chart, he will himself not be

satisfied with one, but may go for another, to satiate his desires, and

one of these two may be jamaane ki begum, or a society woman.

Okay, now where do I get this original Lal kitab, please guide me ? I

want to study further.

regards,

bhaskar.

, " Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj "

<nirbhar wrote:

>

> Respected Bhaskar Ji & Khurana Ji,

>

> *//''''Shukra chauthe jab paani ayaa, aurat hua bairag*â€ when the

venus

> comes to the 4th house , it sets in a certain amount of

disenchantment. â€œ

> *aurat hua bairag*â€ can be interpreted both ways : that he gets

> disenchanted , it can also mean that in her too the fire of passion is

no

> longer as strong''''''//

>

> I reproduse the above lines as exists in original Lalkitab . It is on

page

> 443. these are

>

> * " Shukkar Chauthey Jab Paani Aaya , Aurat hua **viraag**,*

>

> *Ek se do bhee huyi, per bhuji nahin un kee aag " *

>

> The word is viraag not Bairag. The word Bairag means disenchantment as

> explained by Khurana ji.

>

> But the actual word is viraag which is a persian word and means " Aag

ka

> Bhabka " or Aag ka Sholaa a big quantum of fire.

>

> This means Shukkar when comes in the house of water, The lust for

woman in

> the native will become like an " Aag ka Shola " (powerful for an

instant) .

> which in result may give urge for more woman. One amongst his woman is

> termed like as " Zamaney Kee begum " indirectoly pointing towards the

non

> decency. That instant lusty power may not satisfy any one and may also

> result in lesschild or no child.

>

> Regards

>

> Nirmal

> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 12:17 PM, khurana_satpal

> khurana_satpalwrote:

>

> > Dear Sunil Ji,

> >

> > *Lal Kitab Perspective:*

> >

> > I had been reading with academic interest Bhaskar jiâ€™s

predicament during

> > Rahu Kal. I did look at his problem with the Lal Kitab perspective.

> >

> > Bhaskar jiâ€™ s contention that Venus happens to be the main

culprit is

> > also borne out through the Lal Kitab.

> >

> > Bhaskar ji is currently in his 48th year. In his 48th year Varsh

Phal

> > chart Venus is placed in the 4th house for which the Lal Kitab says

:

> >

> > â€œ *Shukra chauthe jab paani ayaa, aurat hua bairag*â€

when the venus

> > comes to the 4th house , it sets in a certain amount of

disenchantment.

> > â€œ *aurat hua bairag*â€ can be interpreted both ways :

that he gets

> > disenchanted , it can also mean that in her too the fire of passion

is no

> > longer as strong.

> >

> > I believe his Rahu Kal predicament would have been pronounced after

June

> > this year and is likely to last till June next year i.e. during his

entire

> > 48th year.

> >

> > But why should it happen during the Rahu Kal specially ? The Lal

Kitab

> > doesnâ€™t say any thing about it because in North India

specially the hill

> > regions where the Lal Kitab originated from, Rahu Kal is not much

talked

> > about. But in astrological terms Venus and the Rahu are enemies

therefore

> > the adverse effects of venus would come forth during the period when

Rahu is

> > strong, more so during his Rahu/Rahu dasha.

> >

> > Therefore Bhaskar ji will have to do some thing for his Venus in

order to

> > normalize the situation.

> >

> > Sincerely,

> >

> > S P Khurana

> >

> > , " sunil nair "

> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Hare rama krishna

> > >

> > > dear astro surfer ji

> > >

> > > Thanks for ur views .yes dasa also supports it i hope such trends

will

> > > go down after this month .we will get feed backs frm sri bhaskar

ji for

> > > sure and we can update our undrstanding too .

> > >

> > > i blv his sani has some spiritual mission which rahu is entrusted

and

> > > sani being 7th L etc acting tru venus also the karaka for

neccessary

> > > fire needed for spiritulaity .

> > >

> > > let us wait and i hope other memebrs also will giv some opinions

> > >

> > > also i wud lov to hear opinion frm lal kitabies in grp too .

> > >

> > > regrds sunil nair

> > >

> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> > >

> > > , " astro.surfer "

> > > astro.surfer@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sunil ji, Bhaskar ji,

> > > >

> > > > Why don't you think that Ketu in 7H is the real culprit?

> > > >

> > > > Rahu and Mars hold the steering, but what is venus doing in the

chart?

> > > > It is the SAARTHI? showing the direction where the native will

be

> > > > heading. In 9H in LL Sun's constellation. Lagna rising in venus

star.

> > > > It is very important to understand this venus as he is the

> > > > karma-dharmadhipati. The native will never be able to escape

venus,

> > > > though he might keep running from it, but it will always give

good

> > > > things in life, things that native will love to cherish and keep

as

> > > > his prized possessions.

> > > >

> > > > Venus is the Atmakarak, the planet to take him vaitarni paar.

Venus in

> > > > AL in 9H with and arudh of 9H in 5H of poorv punya. It is no one

else

> > > > but a projection of self. Venus is the soul of this chart.

> > > >

> > > > Venus gives 7 ashtakvarga points aries and 6 in leo. See the

subtle

> > > > root connection with lagna and LL. In vimsamsh, venus takes

charge of

> > > > the wheel with mars and sun in the 7H.

> > > >

> > > > Mars, the YK fully energises this venus, who is in martian sign

in D-1

> > > > and aspected by mars in D-9. Rahu, who is mars personified, is

fully

> > > > aspecting with a backward glance.

> > > >

> > > > Venus does not fully represent spouse in the chart, it is only

the

> > > > karak for 7H in 9H. It has no relation with 7H and 7L in natal

chart

> > > > as well as D-9, whereas Saturn represents wife being 7L, 7L in

7H in

> > > > navamsha and Dk. It is saturn all the way, with Jup, mars and

Rahu.

> > > >

> > > > Rahu-kaalam impact on wife could be because ketu is there in 7H

in

> > > > dhanishtha. Ketu in 7H is responsible for unnecessary disputes

between

> > > > partners and causes disillusion and misunderstandings. So in

> > > > rahu-kaalam, this can surface more. Where as being in 9H, venus

will

> > > > promote religious affairs and it made him do durga saptashati in

rahu

> > > > kalam. The fault lies with ketu, not venus. Also sun and

retrograde

> > > > mercury in Rahu's nakshatra in 2H from AK and Karkamsh, can make

him

> > > > say unpleasant things in rahu-kaalam, especially dasha and antar

> > > > supporting.

> > > >

> > > > What are the impulses that this venus gives? Venus the

primordial

> > > > shakti, venus the ardhnaareeshwar in the chart, his own other

self.

> > > > Venus is in sagitarius in navamsh, the natural 9H again. This

venus

> > > > relates to dharma.

> > > >

> > > > What is it that he would like from the bottom of his heart? What

will

> > > > be the innermost urges? I am sure it is all possible combined

> > > > significations of venus in 9H.

> > > >

> > > > Please correct me if I am wrong in my understanding. I am only a

> > > learner.

> > > >

> > > > Best regards

> > > > Astrosurfer

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

October 12, 2008

Dear Nirmal Kumar ji,

Rahu Kaal is a concept used in the sense of Muhurth in traditional

astrology { Bhaskar ji would correct me if I am wrong ]. That keeps

changing according to the day of the week and is worked out based on

the time elapsed from sunrise at that particular city/place. It is

time, place and the day of the week specific.

Where as in the lal kitab the time allocation you have mentioned is

used as Epoch of birth [ janma wakt ]. Although the time alloted to

Rahu is the entire time of the evening after sun set to the first

appearance of the stars, but the time mentioned in the book is such

an evening on a Thursday. It is not place specific.

Similarly for Ketu it is the usha kal before sunrise and in the book

it is mentioned for a Sunday specially. This again is not place

specific.

Sincerely,

S P Khurana

, " Nirmal Kumar

Bhardwaj " <nirbhar wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar Ji,

>

> " Rahu Kalam in Lal Kitab "

>

> In Lal Kitab Every planet has been allocated permanent Time /

kalam for

> them. Two nodes get the Gandantha of Day and Night or night &

day. as far

> as I remember , approximately 120 minutes before sunrise allocated

to Ketu

> and may be termed as Ketu's Kaal and 240 minutes allocated to Rahu

after

> sunset to Rahu.

>

> Regards

>

> Nirmal

>

> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 12:28 AM, Bhaskar

<rajiventerpriseswrote:

>

> > Dear Khuranaji,

> >

> > Yes You are right about my contention of Venus due to lal Kitab.

> >

> > But it also comes through traditional, as Venus is placed in the

> > badhakasthana.

> >

> > You mentioned about fire of passion not being too strong. You

may be right

> > here, but with proper circumstances and atmosphere, and with the

right

> > approach, this fire does not take more than 10 minutes to

ignite, even with

> > rishi Munis, so who are we, but ordinary mortals. For us if

external support

> > is available, it does not take more than 30 seconds to ignite,

let me be

> > very frank with you. This is the ground level reality and

applicable to most

> > of us.

> >

> > *As per lal Kitab, in the 48th year , My venus stays where it

is, in the

> > natal chart, that is in the 9th house, It does not come to the

4th house,

> > as you wrote* ( Please correct me if I am wrong ).

> >

> > EVEN WHEN VENUS COMES IN THE 4TH HOUSE THE RESULTS ARE SAID AS -

> >

> > " Aurat ki ho aajaari "

> >

> > ( here " ajaari means " kashta " and not connected to passion ).

> >

> > or else

> >

> > " chauthe auraat do hota hai " ,

> >

> > which means,'the native may have two women in his Life.

> >

> > About the mention of Rahu Kalam in Lal Kitab,I know that there

is a faint

> > mention indirectly about this , but where, I am not able to

pinpoint.

> >

> > best wishes,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , " khurana_satpal "

> > <khurana_satpal@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sunil Ji,

> > >

> > > Lal Kitab Perspective:

> > >

> > > I had been reading with academic interest Bhaskar jiâ€™s

> > > predicament during Rahu Kal. I did look at his problem with

the Lal

> > > Kitab perspective.

> > >

> > > Bhaskar jiâ€™ s contention that Venus happens to be the main

> > > culprit is also borne out through the Lal Kitab.

> > >

> > > Bhaskar ji is currently in his 48th year. In his 48th year

Varsh Phal

> > > chart Venus is placed in the 4th house for which the Lal Kitab

says :

> > >

> > > â€œ Shukra chauthe jab paani ayaa, aurat hua bairagâ€ when

> > > the venus comes to the 4th house , it sets in a certain amount

of

> > > disenchantment. â€œ aurat hua bairagâ€ can be interpreted

> > > both ways : that he gets disenchanted , it can also mean that

in her too

> > > the fire of passion is no longer as strong.

> > >

> > > I believe his Rahu Kal predicament would have been pronounced

after June

> > > this year and is likely to last till June next year i.e.

during his

> > > entire 48th year.

> > >

> > > But why should it happen during the Rahu Kal specially ? The

Lal Kitab

> > > doesnâ€™t say any thing about it because in North India specially

> > > the hill regions where the Lal Kitab originated from, Rahu Kal

is not

> > > much talked about. But in astrological terms Venus and the

Rahu are

> > > enemies therefore the adverse effects of venus would come

forth during

> > > the period when Rahu is strong, more so during his Rahu/Rahu

dasha.

> > >

> > > Therefore Bhaskar ji will have to do some thing for his Venus

in order

> > > to normalize the situation.

> > >

> > > Sincerely,

> > >

> > > S P Khurana

> > >

> > > , " sunil nair "

> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hare rama krishna

> > > >

> > > > dear astro surfer ji

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for ur views .yes dasa also supports it i hope such

trends will

> > > > go down after this month .we will get feed backs frm sri

bhaskar ji

> > > for

> > > > sure and we can update our undrstanding too .

> > > >

> > > > i blv his sani has some spiritual mission which rahu is

entrusted and

> > > > sani being 7th L etc acting tru venus also the karaka for

neccessary

> > > > fire needed for spiritulaity .

> > > >

> > > > let us wait and i hope other memebrs also will giv some

opinions

> > > >

> > > > also i wud lov to hear opinion frm lal kitabies in grp too .

> > > >

> > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > >

> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> > > >

> > > > --- In

, " astro.surfer "

> > > > astro.surfer@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sunil ji, Bhaskar ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Why don't you think that Ketu in 7H is the real culprit?

> > > > >

> > > > > Rahu and Mars hold the steering, but what is venus doing

in the

> > > chart?

> > > > > It is the SAARTHI? showing the direction where the native

will be

> > > > > heading. In 9H in LL Sun's constellation. Lagna rising in

venus

> > > star.

> > > > > It is very important to understand this venus as he is the

> > > > > karma-dharmadhipati. The native will never be able to

escape venus,

> > > > > though he might keep running from it, but it will always

give good

> > > > > things in life, things that native will love to cherish

and keep as

> > > > > his prized possessions.

> > > > >

> > > > > Venus is the Atmakarak, the planet to take him vaitarni

paar. Venus

> > > in

> > > > > AL in 9H with and arudh of 9H in 5H of poorv punya. It is

no one

> > > else

> > > > > but a projection of self. Venus is the soul of this chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > Venus gives 7 ashtakvarga points aries and 6 in leo. See

the subtle

> > > > > root connection with lagna and LL. In vimsamsh, venus

takes charge

> > > of

> > > > > the wheel with mars and sun in the 7H.

> > > > >

> > > > > Mars, the YK fully energises this venus, who is in martian

sign in

> > > D-1

> > > > > and aspected by mars in D-9. Rahu, who is mars

personified, is fully

> > > > > aspecting with a backward glance.

> > > > >

> > > > > Venus does not fully represent spouse in the chart, it is

only the

> > > > > karak for 7H in 9H. It has no relation with 7H and 7L in

natal chart

> > > > > as well as D-9, whereas Saturn represents wife being 7L,

7L in 7H in

> > > > > navamsha and Dk. It is saturn all the way, with Jup, mars

and Rahu.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rahu-kaalam impact on wife could be because ketu is there

in 7H in

> > > > > dhanishtha. Ketu in 7H is responsible for unnecessary

disputes

> > > between

> > > > > partners and causes disillusion and misunderstandings. So

in

> > > > > rahu-kaalam, this can surface more. Where as being in 9H,

venus will

> > > > > promote religious affairs and it made him do durga

saptashati in

> > > rahu

> > > > > kalam. The fault lies with ketu, not venus. Also sun and

retrograde

> > > > > mercury in Rahu's nakshatra in 2H from AK and Karkamsh,

can make him

> > > > > say unpleasant things in rahu-kaalam, especially dasha and

antar

> > > > > supporting.

> > > > >

> > > > > What are the impulses that this venus gives? Venus the

primordial

> > > > > shakti, venus the ardhnaareeshwar in the chart, his own

other self.

> > > > > Venus is in sagitarius in navamsh, the natural 9H again.

This venus

> > > > > relates to dharma.

> > > > >

> > > > > What is it that he would like from the bottom of his

heart? What

> > > will

> > > > > be the innermost urges? I am sure it is all possible

combined

> > > > > significations of venus in 9H.

> > > > >

> > > > > Please correct me if I am wrong in my understanding. I am

only a

> > > > learner.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best regards

> > > > > Astrosurfer

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

October 12, 2008

Namaste Renu

JHora has taken an arbitrary point somewhere

between Sittingbourne and Ashford in Kent

County? A useful website

for Place/Street co-ords in England

is â€œwww.streetmap.co.ukâ€.

Hope this answers your question?

Best wishes â€¦..

Jai Sita Ram

Ram

On Behalf Of renunw

12 October 2008 15:52

Re: Rahu Kalam - Please read this . Its revealing.

Dear Ram ji,

Thanks. I will note this down. But JHora gives a latitude and

longitude for Kent in UK.

May be I'm wrong..please correct me if so.

blessings

Renu

,

" Ram Jaswal "

<rkjaswal wrote:

>

> Namaste Renu

>

> Would you happen to have the Place of Birth in Kent? Incase if not

already aware Kent is a

County (State) in England

and not a

town/city hence the question.

>

> Thanks and regards Ã¢â‚¬Â¦Ã¢â‚¬Â¦

>

> Jai Sita Ram

>

> Ram

>

> _____

>

On Behalf Of renunw

> 12 October 2008 12:05

>

> Re: Rahu Kalam - Please read

this . Its revealing.

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>

> I can but only agree with your revelations and thanks for the same.

>

> // He said that for a Leo person, marital happiness would be a

rarity,

> unles he has very fortunate combinations in his chart for the

same //

>

> I've noticed this in quite a few Leo natives, though I don't have

their

> charts with me. Either their marriages are in jeopardy or they are

> divorced, separated, widowed etc.

>

> But there may be exceptions...

>

> I know a young couple who got married 2 years ago, Leo husband and

> Scorpio wife,......so far everything is a smooth sail for them. The

> husband is very caring and loving, and now the family is complete

with a

> baby girl. I've got only the chart of the husband with me. If

anybody

> is interested, in the Leo- Scorpio duel...sorry dual, let me give

the

> horoscope of the husband. I will try to get the wife's chart if

> possible.

>

> 6th September 1979 @ 6.06 AM in Kent,

UK.

>

> blessings

>

> Renu

>

> ancient_indian_ <%

40> astrology ,

" Bhaskar "

> <rajiventerprises@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Renuji,

> >

> > You have also taken up a good observation.

> >

> > As students our astrology class was also party to many off beat

> > discussions apart from our syllabus. I remember vividly one of my

> > Professors who is now a old man and a experienced astrologer

both in

> > Sayana and Nirayana.

> >

> > He said that for a Leo person, marital happiness would be a

rarity,

> > unles he has very fortunate combinations in his chart for the

same.

> This

> > is because Sun having ownership of the 1st house for Leo, and

Saturn

> > having ownership of the 7th house for Leo, are both sworn

enemies.

> Next,

> > Saturn is also the Lord of the 6th house, which adds to the

bitterness

> > in the marriage, as the 6th house traits are always the cause for

> > incompatibilities, and if they conjoin with the 12th and 8th,

then it

> is

> > a definite Divorce or seperation.

> >

> > A Leo nativity can suppress all the other natives bearing all

> ascendants

> > except for Scorpio.

> >

> > A Scorpio nativity can suppress all the other natives bearing all

> > ascendants, except Leo.

> >

> > So here we have the clash of Titans , whenever the clash takes

place

> it

> > would be a enjoyable scene for the neighbours.

> >

> > In our case we both have strong Mars in our lagnas, so when we

enter

> > into a clash, anybody else coming in the firing range would be

> clobbered

> > mercilessly.

> >

> > That is something to chew upon, this Sunday.

> >

> > Enjoy,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> > ancient_indian_ <%

40> astrology ,

" renunw " renunw@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > >

> > > Thanks for commencing an interesting and educative discussion.

I was

> > > keenly attentive throughout the discussion, for a good reason

too.

> > > Leo husband + Scorpion wife is something personal to me, and

seems

> > > to create problems during the current planetary movements....

or is

> > > it inherent in their nature?

> > >

> > > I am not surprised of your wife's 'hot temper and religious

> > > inclination', both traits will go hand in hand quite

> > > comfortably.....I would say this is the 'true Scorpion

spirit'.

> > >

> > > blessings,

> > >

> > > Renu

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ <%

40> astrology ,

" Bhaskar "

> > > rajiventerprises@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ram Jaiswalji,

> > > >

> > > > I have already put a query about a year back in Group of

Priya

> > > > Bhooshanji, whic was not about my personal chart, but about

some

> > > > technical confirmations, which did not even eecit a

response,

> > > forget any

> > > > reply, after that I never visited that Forum ever. But if

you

> > > suggest

> > > > then I may post a enquiry there one of these days, but I do

my

> > > studies

> > > > myself on my chart, and do not take whatever anyone says at

deep

> > > level,

> > > > but just at surface level.

> > > >

> > > > About Ketu in my 7th house , I will comment later on, but

as

per

> > > lal

> > > > Kitab, it is supposed to offer favourable results when

native

> > > attains

> > > > age of 55. And also when the native son attains major age.

> > > >

> > > > Yes Mytempered, but she wife is very hot is also very

religious,

> > > and

> > > > whatever she utters, comes our true. If she curses someone

it will

> > > come

> > > > out true, if she blesses someone it will manifest. She is a

stauch

> > > lover

> > > > of Hanuman Baba and Shrikrishna, and a daughter from a

family of

> > > > devotees and from a very rich business family . When she

> > > criticises with

> > > > her 3 inch tongue even a man of 6 feet will be mowed down

like a

> > > > spineless rubber, and when she praises, then the praise

will

be

> > > geuine.

> > > > She certainly holds respect from all those who come in

contact

> > > with her.

> > > > This much info. is enough for the moment, about her.

> > > >

> > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ <%

40> astrology ,

" Ram Jaswal "

> > > > <rkjaswal@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Bhaskarji

> > > > >

> > > > > Re:Lal Kitab may I suggest your contacting Pundit

Priya

> > > Bhooshanji of

> > > > ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã… " @ <%

40> ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â?

> > > > >

> > > > > Personally speaking I feel Ketu is the Graha to be

propitiated?

> > > If I

> > > > may ask is your wife of a ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã… " short temperÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â

as Ketu

in

> > 7th

> > > > Hse generally denotes this amongst other things?

Re:disagreements

> > > during

> > > > Rahu Kalam periods I assume generally as opposed from only

> > > Fridays? Per

> > > > Vim you are currently in Rahu/Rahu/Mer and Chara Tau/Aqu ÃƒÂ¢

Ã¢â€šÂ¬ " I

> > > > consider Rahu as co-lord of Aqu hence understandable 7th

Hse

focus

> > > > during said periods ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â¦.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â¦..

> > > > >

> > > > > Jai Sita Ram

> > > > >

> > > > > Ram

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ <%

40> astrology

> > > > [ancient_indian_ <%

40> astrology ]

On Behalf Of

> > > > khurana_satpal

> > > > > 11 October 2008 13:04

> > > > > ancient_indian_ <%

40> astrology

> > > > > Re: Rahu

Kalam -

Please read

> > > this

> > > > . Its revealing.

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sunil ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I am still a novice as far as the Lal Kitab is

concerned.

> > > Devising

> > > > > Lal Kitab upaya is a very serious matter and should

not be

done

> > > by

> > > > > beginners like me. Therefore I suggest that Bhaskar ji

should

> > > > > consult some senior Lal Kitab scholar/s. I will not be

in a

> > > position

> > > > > to suggest any name either.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > >

> > > > > S P Khurana

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com, " sunil nair "

> > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hare rama krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear satpal khurana ji ,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > many many thanks for giving us Lal kitab

perspectivses .I

> > > always

> > > > > > wonder always abt any system of indian predictiv

systems

will

> b

> > > > > > contributing to each other than contradicting

each

other .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > what ever way we look it ,is not a matter of

concern

wheter

> its

> > > > > > various astrology form s or hand reading or

samudrika

> > > sastra .We

> > > > > must b

> > > > > > gr8ful to our ancesters and gr8 rishis for giving

us

such a

> gr8

> > > > > sciences

> > > > > > which is helping humanity in general .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now sir one thing u dont made it clear .U said

" Therefore

> > > Bhaskar

> > > > > ji

> > > > > > will have to do some thing for his Venus in order

to

normalize

> > > the

> > > > > > situation "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > can u suggest remedies what shud b done by

bhaskar

ji ,so the

> > > > > nativ is

> > > > > > out of this kind of pestering problem tho it is

not

seems to b

> > > big

> > > > > >

> > > > > > after all this is for reliving the tension and

problems .so

> the

> > > > > remedial

> > > > > > measures r important . can u suggest tru grp or

mail

> > > > > >

> > > > > > by the by Bhaskarjis computer is in trouble and

his

access is

> > > > > limited i

> > > > > > heard frm him yestrday ,so i dont know when he

will b

> > > comfortable

> > > > > with

> > > > > > that .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank u for trying the chart

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > > >

> > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com, " khurana_satpal "

> > > > > > <khurana_satpal@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Sunil Ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lal Kitab Perspective:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I had been reading with academic interest

Bhaskar

> > jiÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚Â¢s

> > > > > > > predicament during Rahu Kal. I did look at

his problem

with

> > > the

> > > > > Lal

> > > > > > > Kitab perspective.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskar jiÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚Â¢ s contention

that Venus

happens to

> be

> > the

> > > > main

> > > > > > > culprit is also borne out through the Lal

Kitab.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskar ji is currently in his 48th year. In

his 48th

year

> > > Varsh

> > > > > Phal

> > > > > > > chart Venus is placed in the 4th house for

which the

Lal

> > > Kitab

> > > > > says :

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€¦ " Shukra chauthe jab paani

ayaa, aurat hua

> > > > bairagÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â when

> > > > > > > the venus comes to the 4th house , it sets

in a certain

> > > amount of

> > > > > > > disenchantment. ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€¦ " aurat

hua bairagÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢

Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â can

> > be

> > > > interpreted

> > > > > > > both ways : that he gets disenchanted , it

can also

mean

> > > that in

> > > > > her

> > > > > > too

> > > > > > > the fire of passion is no longer as strong.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I believe his Rahu Kal predicament would

have been

> pronounced

> > > > > after

> > > > > > June

> > > > > > > this year and is likely to last till June

next year

i.e.

> > > during

> > > > > his

> > > > > > > entire 48th year.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But why should it happen during the Rahu Kal

specially ? The

> > > Lal

> > > > > Kitab

> > > > > > > doesnÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚Â¢t say any thing about

it

because in North

> > India

> > > > specially

> > > > > > > the hill regions where the Lal Kitab

originated from,

Rahu

> > > Kal

> > > > > is not

> > > > > > > much talked about. But in astrological terms

Venus and

the

> > > Rahu

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > enemies therefore the adverse effects of

venus would

come

> > > forth

> > > > > during

> > > > > > > the period when Rahu is strong, more so

during his

Rahu/Rahu

> > > > > dasha.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Therefore Bhaskar ji will have to do some

thing for his

> > > Venus in

> > > > > order

> > > > > > > to normalize the situation.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > S P Khurana

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com, " sunil nair "

> > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > dear astro surfer ji

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks for ur views .yes dasa also supports it i

hope such

> > > > > trends

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > go down after this month .we will get

feed backs frm

sri

> > > > > bhaskar ji

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > sure and we can update our undrstanding

too .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i blv his sani has some spiritual

mission which rahu

is

> > > > > entrusted

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > sani being 7th L etc acting tru venus

also the

karaka for

> > > > > neccessary

> > > > > > > > fire needed for spiritulaity .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > let us wait and i hope other memebrs

also will giv

some

> > > > > opinions

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > also i wud lov to hear opinion frm lal

kitabies in

grp

> > > too .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com, " astro.surfer "

> > > > > > > > astro.surfer@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji, Bhaskar ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Why don't you think that Ketu in

7H is the real

culprit?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rahu and Mars hold the steering,

but what is venus

doing

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > chart?

> > > > > > > > > It is the SAARTHI? showing the

direction where the

> native

> > > > > will be

> > > > > > > > > heading. In 9H in LL Sun's

constellation. Lagna

rising

> in

> > > > > venus

> > > > > > > star.

> > > > > > > > > It is very important to understand

this venus as

he is

> > > the

> > > > > > > > > karma-dharmadhipati. The

native will never be able

to

> > > escape

> > > > > > venus,

> > > > > > > > > though he might keep running from

it, but it will

always

> > > > > give good

> > > > > > > > > things in life, things that native

will love to

cherish

> > > and

> > > > > keep

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > his prized possessions.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Venus is the Atmakarak, the planet

to take him

vaitarni

> > > paar.

> > > > > > Venus

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > AL in 9H with and arudh of 9H in 5H of poorv

punya. It

> > > is no

> > > > > one

> > > > > > > else

> > > > > > > > > but a projection of self. Venus is

the soul of this

> > > chart.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Venus gives 7 ashtakvarga points

aries and 6 in

leo. See

> > > the

> > > > > > subtle

> > > > > > > > > root connection with lagna and LL.

In vimsamsh,

venus

> > > takes

> > > > > charge

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > the wheel with mars and sun in the

7H.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mars, the YK fully energises this

venus, who is in

> > > martian

> > > > > sign in

> > > > > > > D-1

> > > > > > > > > and aspected by mars in D-9. Rahu,

who is mars

> > > personified,

> > > > > is

> > > > > > fully

> > > > > > > > > aspecting with a backward glance.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Venus does not fully represent

spouse in the

chart, it

> is

> > > > > only the

> > > > > > > > > karak for 7H in 9H. It has no

relation with 7H and

7L in

> > > > > natal

> > > > > > chart

> > > > > > > > > as well as D-9, whereas Saturn

represents wife

being 7L,

> > > 7L

> > > > > in 7H

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > navamsha and Dk. It is saturn all the

way, with

Jup,

> > > mars and

> > > > > > Rahu.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rahu-kaalam impact on wife could

be because ketu is

> > > there in

> > > > > 7H in

> > > > > > > > > dhanishtha. Ketu in 7H is

responsible for

unnecessary

> > > > > disputes

> > > > > > > between

> > > > > > > > > partners and causes disillusion

and

misunderstandings.

> > > So in

> > > > > > > > > rahu-kaalam, this can surface

more. Where as being

in

> 9H,

> > > > > venus

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > promote religious affairs and it

made him do durga

> > > > > saptashati in

> > > > > > > rahu

> > > > > > > > > kalam. The fault lies with ketu,

not venus. Also

sun and

> > > > > > retrograde

> > > > > > > > > mercury in Rahu's nakshatra in 2H

from AK and

Karkamsh,

> > > can

> > > > > make

> > > > > > him

> > > > > > > > > say unpleasant things in

rahu-kaalam, especially

dasha

> > > and

> > > > > antar

> > > > > > > > > supporting.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What are the impulses that this

venus gives? Venus

the

> > > > > primordial

> > > > > > > > > shakti, venus the ardhnaareeshwar

in the chart,

his own

> > > other

> > > > > > self.

> > > > > > > > > Venus is in sagitarius in navamsh,

the natural 9H

again.

> > > This

> > > > > > venus

> > > > > > > > > relates to dharma.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What is it that he would like from

the bottom of

his

> > > heart?

> > > > > What

> > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > be the innermost urges? I am sure

it is all

possible

> > > combined

> > > > > > > > > significations of venus in 9H.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please correct me if I am wrong in

my

understanding. I

> am

> > > > > only a

> > > > > > > > learner.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Best regards

> > > > > > > > > Astrosurfer

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

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> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com

> Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1720 - Release

10/11/2008 3:59 PM

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Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com

Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1720 - Release 10/11/2008 3:59 PM

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