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dear suni nair ji,

 

really i didn't know the source. but in my practice it is 100% working. u do

onething better u check

1. the lord rama horoscope in his 2,4,5, and 7 places are spoiled in his life

due to the uchcha graha's only.

2. sri gautama buddha birth details 14th april 623 bc at about midday .lat 27.8N

long 83.5E.

he was cancer lagna, sun exalted 2nd place family life spoiled.

3. sri adi sankaracharya 25th march 44 b.c at about noon lat 8.29N  long 76.59E.

also cancer lagna sun exalted no family life.

lot of examples there.

 

and that debilated don't take like that.

 

with regards

guru.nagarajan.

--- On Thu, 17/9/09, astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

 

 

astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala

Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga

 

Thursday, 17 September, 2009, 6:49 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Guru .Nagarajan Ji

 

many thanks for ur inputs and illuminating on subjuct

 

But i hav a doubt abt ur quotes on ucha grahas

 

u said

 

xxxxxx

1. Any graha can exalted(uchcham) in a chart. That graha mooladrikona house

spoiled.

xxxxxxxxxxx

 

can u quote source and some exmple s on it

 

what if a graha is debilated then ,can we use the same logic and say good abt

the results of MT place

 

rgrds sunil nair

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, " Guru.nagarajan "

<guru_naga_astrologe r wrote:

>

> dear freind

>  

> ///my mercury dasa started and the

> complete period was bad for me. I have started learning astrology from

> the past 8 months and nobody could explain me why my mercury dasha was

> bad. Because mercury in 11th in kanni rashi should have been good///

>  

> 1. Any graha can exalted(uchcham) in a chart. That graha mooladrikona house

spoiled.

> 2. So, in ur chart mercury exalted(uchcham) .

> 3. And also it is 8 th lord.

> 4. Mooladrikona for mercury also Kanni.

> that is why the mercury dasa bad for u.

>  

> with regards

> guru.nagarjan.

>

> --- On Wed, 16/9/09, horamag horamag wrote:

>

>

> horamag horamag

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Wednesday, 16 September, 2009, 12:46 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Namaste to all

> I have have just joined your group and i find it very informative.

> I was going through a older post by sunder rangarajan whose date of

> birth is 6 september 1968.

> Incidentally my date of birth is 8 september 1968 with scorpi lagna with

> all three saturn venus and mars in neecham.

> As rangarajan said

> In my horoscope 3 planets are debilitated.

> > > Saturn is Debilitated and retrogate in Aries. Saturn is also

> Vargottama.

> > > Venus is debilitated with exalted mercury and Ketu.

> > > Mars is debilitated in lagna in cancer.

> > > Sun in Leo(Moolatrikona) with Jupiter which is combust

> applies for me also

>

> I can understand the feelings of rangarajan.

>

> For me i was born in shani dasha approx 11 years. so i cannot tell if my

> satun was good or bad. After that my mercury dasa started and the

> complete period was bad for me. I have started learning astrology from

> the past 8 months and nobody could explain me why my mercury dasha was

> bad. Because mercury in 11th in kanni rashi should have been good. But

> your article about the 11 th lord in your website was amazing. You have

> mentioned that as a gospel truth persons born in scorpio lagna will have

> there mercury dasha bad was unbelievable. What you have mentioned in

> your article is 100 % correct.

> Thanks and regards

>

> Girish Menon

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, " Sunder "

> <sunder.rangarajan@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > I have uploaded my Chart and other details in the files section.

> > File is sunder.indian. pdf.( I do not know how to post the url,but you

> > can search the files for sunder.indian. pdf)

> > Kindly go through and revert back.

> > Regards,

> > Sunder.

> >

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Sunder "

> > sunder.rangarajan@ wrote:

> > >

> > > I want to know if I have Neechabangha Rajyoga.

> > >

> > > Astrological Details

> > >

> > > Name: Sunder Rangarajan

> > > Date of Birth: 06/September/ 1968, Friday

> > > Time of Birth: 3.40 A.M

> > > Place of Birth: Chennai,India.

> > > Latitude: 13.5 N , Longitude: 80.18 E

> > > Local Mean Time: 03:31:12

> > > Lagna: Cancer

> > > Lagna Lord: Moon

> > > Sun Sign: Virgo

> > > Sun Sign Lord: Mercury

> > > Moon Sign: Aquarius

> > > Moon Sign Lord: Saturn

> > > Nakshatra: Satabisha

> > > Nakshatra Lord: Rahu

> > > Current Dasa: Saturn

> > >

> > > In my horoscope 3 planets are debilitated.

> > > Saturn is Debilitated and retrogate in Aries. Saturn is also

> Vargottama.

> > > Venus is debilitated with exalted mercury and Ketu.

> > > Mars is debilitated in lagna in cancer.

> > > Sun in Leo(Moolatrikona) with Jupiter which is combust.

> > >

> > > From April, I have Saturn Dasa and Venus Bhukti.

> > >

> > > Does a Neecha,Vakra and Vargottamma planet give a Uchha planet

> effect?

> > > If the lord of the house being in quadrent from lagna is itself

> neecha?

> > > I am very worried. I need some definite answers.

> > >

> > > - Sunder Rangarajan

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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dear gopi ji

 

in general the mercury dasa not give positive results. because by kala purush it

is 3rd and 6th lord. eventhough it is lagnesh or yogesh the above result can

done.

 

best regards

guru.nagarajan

 

--- On Thu, 17/9/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 wrote:

 

 

gopalakrishna <gopi_b927

Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga

 

Thursday, 17 September, 2009, 7:35 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sunilnair ji,

yes,i also have the same querry and also the same mer in question.Me is my lagna

and 10th lord exal in lagna(ofcourse in PKY) AND DEBILITATED in lagna in D9.

But Mer always gave mixed results but majority of them are positive.One of them

is i joined this group in my Rahu-Mer period!!!... .

Love and regards,

gopi.

ancient_indian_ astrology, " astro_tellerkerala "

<astro_tellerkerala@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> Dear Guru .Nagarajan Ji

>

> many thanks for ur inputs and illuminating on subjuct

>

> But i hav a doubt abt ur quotes on ucha grahas

>

> u said

>

> xxxxxx

> 1. Any graha can exalted(uchcham) in a chart. That graha mooladrikona

> house

> spoiled.

> xxxxxxxxxxx

>

> can u quote source and some exmple s on it

>

> what if a graha is debilated then ,can we use the same logic and say

> good abt the results of MT place

>

> rgrds sunil nair

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, " Guru.nagarajan "

> guru_naga_astrologe r@ wrote:

> >

> > dear freind

> >

> > ///my mercury dasa started and the

> > complete period was bad for me. I have started learning astrology from

> > the past 8 months and nobody could explain me why my mercury dasha was

> > bad. Because mercury in 11th in kanni rashi should have been good///

> >

> > 1. Any graha can exalted(uchcham) in a chart. That graha mooladrikona

> house spoiled.

> > 2. So, in ur chart mercury exalted(uchcham) .

> > 3. And also it is 8 th lord.

> > 4. Mooladrikona for mercury also Kanni.

> > that is why the mercury dasa bad for u.

> >

> > with regards

> > guru.nagarjan.

> >

> > --- On Wed, 16/9/09, horamag horamag@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > horamag horamag@

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Wednesday, 16 September, 2009, 12:46 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Namaste to all

> > I have have just joined your group and i find it very informative.

> > I was going through a older post by sunder rangarajan whose date of

> > birth is 6 september 1968.

> > Incidentally my date of birth is 8 september 1968 with scorpi lagna

> with

> > all three saturn venus and mars in neecham.

> > As rangarajan said

> > In my horoscope 3 planets are debilitated.

> > > > Saturn is Debilitated and retrogate in Aries. Saturn is also

> > Vargottama.

> > > > Venus is debilitated with exalted mercury and Ketu.

> > > > Mars is debilitated in lagna in cancer.

> > > > Sun in Leo(Moolatrikona) with Jupiter which is combust

> > applies for me also

> >

> > I can understand the feelings of rangarajan.

> >

> > For me i was born in shani dasha approx 11 years. so i cannot tell if

> my

> > satun was good or bad. After that my mercury dasa started and the

> > complete period was bad for me. I have started learning astrology from

> > the past 8 months and nobody could explain me why my mercury dasha was

> > bad. Because mercury in 11th in kanni rashi should have been good. But

> > your article about the 11 th lord in your website was amazing. You

> have

> > mentioned that as a gospel truth persons born in scorpio lagna will

> have

> > there mercury dasha bad was unbelievable. What you have mentioned in

> > your article is 100 % correct.

> > Thanks and regards

> >

> > Girish Menon

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Sunder "

> > <sunder.rangarajan@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > I have uploaded my Chart and other details in the files section.

> > > File is sunder.indian. pdf.( I do not know how to post the url,but

> you

> > > can search the files for sunder.indian. pdf)

> > > Kindly go through and revert back.

> > > Regards,

> > > Sunder.

> > >

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Sunder "

> > > sunder.rangarajan@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I want to know if I have Neechabangha Rajyoga.

> > > >

> > > > Astrological Details

> > > >

> > > > Name: Sunder Rangarajan

> > > > Date of Birth: 06/September/ 1968, Friday

> > > > Time of Birth: 3.40 A.M

> > > > Place of Birth: Chennai,India.

> > > > Latitude: 13.5 N , Longitude: 80.18 E

> > > > Local Mean Time: 03:31:12

> > > > Lagna: Cancer

> > > > Lagna Lord: Moon

> > > > Sun Sign: Virgo

> > > > Sun Sign Lord: Mercury

> > > > Moon Sign: Aquarius

> > > > Moon Sign Lord: Saturn

> > > > Nakshatra: Satabisha

> > > > Nakshatra Lord: Rahu

> > > > Current Dasa: Saturn

> > > >

> > > > In my horoscope 3 planets are debilitated.

> > > > Saturn is Debilitated and retrogate in Aries. Saturn is also

> > Vargottama.

> > > > Venus is debilitated with exalted mercury and Ketu.

> > > > Mars is debilitated in lagna in cancer.

> > > > Sun in Leo(Moolatrikona) with Jupiter which is combust.

> > > >

> > > > From April, I have Saturn Dasa and Venus Bhukti.

> > > >

> > > > Does a Neecha,Vakra and Vargottamma planet give a Uchha planet

> > effect?

> > > > If the lord of the house being in quadrent from lagna is itself

> > neecha?

> > > > I am very worried. I need some definite answers.

> > > >

> > > > - Sunder Rangarajan

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > India has a new look. Take a sneak peek

> http://in.. com/trynew

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Sunilnair ji,my chart was discussed i think in some other context.Anyway i am posting again here below.D.O.B.......17-9-1953P.O.B........GUNTURT.O.B......6.35.35HrsLove and regards,gopi. , "astro_tellerkerala" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> Dear Gopalkrishnan ji> > thansk for ur post> > can u post u r data in grp if not already discussed> > rgrds sunil nair> > > > , "gopalakrishna"> gopi_b927@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > yes,i also have the same querry and also the same mer in question.Me> is> > my lagna and 10th lord exal in lagna(ofcourse in PKY) AND DEBILITATED> in> > lagna in D9.> > But Mer always gave mixed results but majority of them are> positive.One> > of them is i joined this group in my Rahu-Mer period!!!....> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > , "astro_tellerkerala"> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Guru .Nagarajan Ji> > >> > > many thanks for ur inputs and illuminating on subjuct> > >> > > But i hav a doubt abt ur quotes on ucha grahas> > >> > > u said> > >> > > xxxxxx> > > 1. Any graha can exalted(uchcham) in a chart. That graha> mooladrikona> > > house> > > spoiled.> > > xxxxxxxxxxx> > >> > > can u quote source and some exmple s on it> > >> > > what if a graha is debilated then ,can we use the same logic and say> > > good abt the results of MT place> > >> > > rgrds sunil nair> > >> > > , "Guru.nagarajan"> > > guru_naga_astrologer@ wrote:> > > >> > > > dear freind> > > >> > > > ///my mercury dasa started and the> > > > complete period was bad for me. I have started learning astrology> > from> > > > the past 8 months and nobody could explain me why my mercury dasha> > was> > > > bad. Because mercury in 11th in kanni rashi should have been> good///> > > >> > > > 1. Any graha can exalted(uchcham) in a chart. That graha> > mooladrikona> > > house spoiled.> > > > 2. So, in ur chart mercury exalted(uchcham).> > > > 3. And also it is 8 th lord.> > > > 4. Mooladrikona for mercury also Kanni.> > > > that is why the mercury dasa bad for u.> > > >> > > > with regards> > > > guru.nagarjan.> > > >> > > > --- On Wed, 16/9/09, horamag horamag@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > horamag horamag@> > > > Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga> > > > > > > > Wednesday, 16 September, 2009, 12:46 PM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Namaste to all> > > > I have have just joined your group and i find it very informative.> > > > I was going through a older post by sunder rangarajan whose date> of> > > > birth is 6 september 1968.> > > > Incidentally my date of birth is 8 september 1968 with scorpi> lagna> > > with> > > > all three saturn venus and mars in neecham.> > > > As rangarajan said> > > > In my horoscope 3 planets are debilitated.> > > > > > Saturn is Debilitated and retrogate in Aries. Saturn is also> > > > Vargottama.> > > > > > Venus is debilitated with exalted mercury and Ketu.> > > > > > Mars is debilitated in lagna in cancer.> > > > > > Sun in Leo(Moolatrikona) with Jupiter which is combust> > > > applies for me also> > > >> > > > I can understand the feelings of rangarajan.> > > >> > > > For me i was born in shani dasha approx 11 years. so i cannot tell> > if> > > my> > > > satun was good or bad. After that my mercury dasa started and the> > > > complete period was bad for me. I have started learning astrology> > from> > > > the past 8 months and nobody could explain me why my mercury dasha> > was> > > > bad. Because mercury in 11th in kanni rashi should have been good.> > But> > > > your article about the 11 th lord in your website was amazing. You> > > have> > > > mentioned that as a gospel truth persons born in scorpio lagna> will> > > have> > > > there mercury dasha bad was unbelievable. What you have mentioned> in> > > > your article is 100 % correct.> > > > Thanks and regards> > > >> > > > Girish Menon> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sunder"> > > > <sunder.rangarajan@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > I have uploaded my Chart and other details in the files section.> > > > > File is sunder.indian. pdf.( I do not know how to post the> url,but> > > you> > > > > can search the files for sunder.indian. pdf)> > > > > Kindly go through and revert back.> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Sunder.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sunder"> > > > > sunder.rangarajan@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > I want to know if I have Neechabangha Rajyoga.> > > > > >> > > > > > Astrological Details> > > > > >> > > > > > Name: Sunder Rangarajan> > > > > > Date of Birth: 06/September/ 1968, Friday> > > > > > Time of Birth: 3.40 A.M> > > > > > Place of Birth: Chennai,India.> > > > > > Latitude: 13.5 N , Longitude: 80.18 E> > > > > > Local Mean Time: 03:31:12> > > > > > Lagna: Cancer> > > > > > Lagna Lord: Moon> > > > > > Sun Sign: Virgo> > > > > > Sun Sign Lord: Mercury> > > > > > Moon Sign: Aquarius> > > > > > Moon Sign Lord: Saturn> > > > > > Nakshatra: Satabisha> > > > > > Nakshatra Lord: Rahu> > > > > > Current Dasa: Saturn> > > > > >> > > > > > In my horoscope 3 planets are debilitated.> > > > > > Saturn is Debilitated and retrogate in Aries. Saturn is also> > > > Vargottama.> > > > > > Venus is debilitated with exalted mercury and Ketu.> > > > > > Mars is debilitated in lagna in cancer.> > > > > > Sun in Leo(Moolatrikona) with Jupiter which is combust.> > > > > >> > > > > > From April, I have Saturn Dasa and Venus Bhukti.> > > > > >> > > > > > Does a Neecha,Vakra and Vargottamma planet give a Uchha planet> > > > effect?> > > > > > If the lord of the house being in quadrent from lagna is> itself> > > > neecha?> > > > > > I am very worried. I need some definite answers.> > > > > >> > > > > > - Sunder Rangarajan> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > India has a new look. Take a sneak peek> > > http://in./trynew> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Guru.nagarajan ji,thanks.I also read it somewhere that MT house gets spoiled for the exalted planets and found it corect also in some cases.......Love and regard,gopi. , "Guru.nagarajan" <guru_naga_astrologer wrote:>> dear gopi ji> > in general the mercury dasa not give positive results. because by kala purush it is 3rd and 6th lord. eventhough it is lagnesh or yogesh the above result can done.> > best regards> guru.nagarajan> > --- On Thu, 17/9/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927 wrote:> > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927 Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga> > Thursday, 17 September, 2009, 7:35 AM> > > > > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> yes,i also have the same querry and also the same mer in question.Me is my lagna and 10th lord exal in lagna(ofcourse in PKY) AND DEBILITATED in lagna in D9.> But Mer always gave mixed results but majority of them are positive.One of them is i joined this group in my Rahu-Mer period!!!... .> Love and regards,> gopi.> ancient_indian_ astrology, "astro_tellerkerala " <astro_tellerkerala@ ...> wrote:> >> >> > Dear Guru .Nagarajan Ji> >> > many thanks for ur inputs and illuminating on subjuct> >> > But i hav a doubt abt ur quotes on ucha grahas> >> > u said> >> > xxxxxx> > 1. Any graha can exalted(uchcham) in a chart. That graha mooladrikona> > house> > spoiled.> > xxxxxxxxxxx> >> > can u quote source and some exmple s on it> >> > what if a graha is debilated then ,can we use the same logic and say> > good abt the results of MT place> >> > rgrds sunil nair> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Guru.nagarajan"> > guru_naga_astrologe r@ wrote:> > >> > > dear freind> > >> > > ///my mercury dasa started and the> > > complete period was bad for me. I have started learning astrology from> > > the past 8 months and nobody could explain me why my mercury dasha was> > > bad. Because mercury in 11th in kanni rashi should have been good///> > >> > > 1. Any graha can exalted(uchcham) in a chart. That graha mooladrikona> > house spoiled.> > > 2. So, in ur chart mercury exalted(uchcham) .> > > 3. And also it is 8 th lord.> > > 4. Mooladrikona for mercury also Kanni.> > > that is why the mercury dasa bad for u.> > >> > > with regards> > > guru.nagarjan.> > >> > > --- On Wed, 16/9/09, horamag horamag@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > horamag horamag@> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Wednesday, 16 September, 2009, 12:46 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Namaste to all> > > I have have just joined your group and i find it very informative.> > > I was going through a older post by sunder rangarajan whose date of> > > birth is 6 september 1968.> > > Incidentally my date of birth is 8 september 1968 with scorpi lagna> > with> > > all three saturn venus and mars in neecham.> > > As rangarajan said> > > In my horoscope 3 planets are debilitated.> > > > > Saturn is Debilitated and retrogate in Aries. Saturn is also> > > Vargottama.> > > > > Venus is debilitated with exalted mercury and Ketu.> > > > > Mars is debilitated in lagna in cancer.> > > > > Sun in Leo(Moolatrikona) with Jupiter which is combust> > > applies for me also> > >> > > I can understand the feelings of rangarajan.> > >> > > For me i was born in shani dasha approx 11 years. so i cannot tell if> > my> > > satun was good or bad. After that my mercury dasa started and the> > > complete period was bad for me. I have started learning astrology from> > > the past 8 months and nobody could explain me why my mercury dasha was> > > bad. Because mercury in 11th in kanni rashi should have been good. But> > > your article about the 11 th lord in your website was amazing. You> > have> > > mentioned that as a gospel truth persons born in scorpio lagna will> > have> > > there mercury dasha bad was unbelievable. What you have mentioned in> > > your article is 100 % correct.> > > Thanks and regards> > >> > > Girish Menon> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sunder"> > > <sunder.rangarajan@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > I have uploaded my Chart and other details in the files section.> > > > File is sunder.indian. pdf.( I do not know how to post the url,but> > you> > > > can search the files for sunder.indian. pdf)> > > > Kindly go through and revert back.> > > > Regards,> > > > Sunder.> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sunder"> > > > sunder.rangarajan@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > I want to know if I have Neechabangha Rajyoga.> > > > >> > > > > Astrological Details> > > > >> > > > > Name: Sunder Rangarajan> > > > > Date of Birth: 06/September/ 1968, Friday> > > > > Time of Birth: 3.40 A.M> > > > > Place of Birth: Chennai,India.> > > > > Latitude: 13.5 N , Longitude: 80.18 E> > > > > Local Mean Time: 03:31:12> > > > > Lagna: Cancer> > > > > Lagna Lord: Moon> > > > > Sun Sign: Virgo> > > > > Sun Sign Lord: Mercury> > > > > Moon Sign: Aquarius> > > > > Moon Sign Lord: Saturn> > > > > Nakshatra: Satabisha> > > > > Nakshatra Lord: Rahu> > > > > Current Dasa: Saturn> > > > >> > > > > In my horoscope 3 planets are debilitated.> > > > > Saturn is Debilitated and retrogate in Aries. Saturn is also> > > Vargottama.> > > > > Venus is debilitated with exalted mercury and Ketu.> > > > > Mars is debilitated in lagna in cancer.> > > > > Sun in Leo(Moolatrikona) with Jupiter which is combust.> > > > >> > > > > From April, I have Saturn Dasa and Venus Bhukti.> > > > >> > > > > Does a Neecha,Vakra and Vargottamma planet give a Uchha planet> > > effect?> > > > > If the lord of the house being in quadrent from lagna is itself> > > neecha?> > > > > I am very worried. I need some definite answers.> > > > >> > > > > - Sunder Rangarajan> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > India has a new look. Take a sneak peek> > http://in.. com/trynew> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! http://in./trynew>

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Dear Gopikrishanji thanks for ur data belated happy Birthday wishes ,i got busy and hence just now only cud able to see ur chart u got a beautiful suryaditya yoga called Nipuna Yoga in lagna /also a bhadra yoga by mercury being in kendra to moon and lagna .I dont Know ur educational qualifications ur rahu -merc is going on and it is in sun 's Nakshtra and which is participating in the above said yoga rahu in 5th house of higher learning ,astrology also will come under that catagary can u tell me abt ur profession /invesmnt habbits / education /ur study of astrology /brothers and sisters etc etc if u r reluctant to discuss in open pls sent it to my personal mail .rgrds sunil nair note -merc and nodes r in pushkaramsa .it says pushkarmsa will increse the significations of the said planets in dasa and general .There is a Kumbha mela of transits going to happen in ur lagna esp frm 18th nite as sun and moon will join sat and merc ,watch out this period and sanies transit How was ur sun period ( mahadasa ) ?? , "gopi_b927" <gopi_b927 wrote:>> Dear Sunilnair ji,> my chart was discussed i think in some other context.Anyway i am posting> again here below.> D.O.B.......17-9-1953> P.O.B........GUNTUR> T.O.B......6.35.35Hrs> > Love and regards,> gopi.> , "astro_tellerkerala"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > Dear Gopalkrishnan ji> >> > thansk for ur post> >> > can u post u r data in grp if not already discussed> >> > rgrds sunil nair> >> >> >> > , "gopalakrishna"> > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > yes,i also have the same querry and also the same mer in question.Me> > is> > > my lagna and 10th lord exal in lagna(ofcourse in PKY) AND> DEBILITATED> > in> > > lagna in D9.> > > But Mer always gave mixed results but majority of them are> > positive.One> > > of them is i joined this group in my Rahu-Mer period!!!....> > > Love and regards,> > > gopi.> >

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Dear Sunilnair ji,thankyou very much for the greetings.I will cherish them.Please dont bother about BELATED and i will get back to you soon......Love and regards,gopi. , "astro_tellerkerala" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > Dear Gopikrishanji> > thanks for ur data> > belated happy Birthday wishes ,i got busy and hence just now only cud> able to see ur chart> > u got a beautiful suryaditya yoga called Nipuna Yoga in lagna /also a> bhadra yoga by mercury being in kendra to moon and lagna .> > I dont Know ur educational qualifications> > ur rahu -merc is going on and it is in sun 's Nakshtra> and which is participating in the above said yoga> rahu in 5th house of higher learning ,astrology also will come under> that catagary> > can u tell me abt ur profession /invesmnt habbits / education /ur study> of astrology /brothers and sisters etc etc> > if u r reluctant to discuss in open pls sent it to my personal mail .> > rgrds sunil nair> > note -merc and nodes r in pushkaramsa .it says pushkarmsa will increse> the significations of the said planets in dasa and general .> > There is a Kumbha mela of transits going to happen in ur lagna esp frm> 18th nite as sun and moon will join sat and merc ,watch out this period> and sanies transit> > How was ur sun period ( mahadasa ) ??> > , "gopi_b927"> gopi_b927@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > my chart was discussed i think in some other context.Anyway i am> posting> > again here below.> > D.O.B.......17-9-1953> > P.O.B........GUNTUR> > T.O.B......6.35.35Hrs> >> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > , "astro_tellerkerala"> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Gopalkrishnan ji> > >> > > thansk for ur post> > >> > > can u post u r data in grp if not already discussed> > >> > > rgrds sunil nair> > >> > >> > >> > > , "gopalakrishna"> > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > > yes,i also have the same querry and also the same mer in> question.Me> > > is> > > > my lagna and 10th lord exal in lagna(ofcourse in PKY) AND> > DEBILITATED> > > in> > > > lagna in D9.> > > > But Mer always gave mixed results but majority of them are> > > positive.One> > > > of them is i joined this group in my Rahu-Mer period!!!....> > > > Love and regards,> > > > gopi.> > >>

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Dear Gopiji,

 

Nice chart indeed.

 

Just as a caution, i want to say :

 

Vimsottari Dasa:

 

Rah MD: 1999-04-24 - 2017-04-23

Ven AD: 2010-11-10 - 2013-11-10

 

The antar dasa of venus in mahadasa rahu will be very poor in health

terms. In this time taking care of health is seriously needed.

Even i feel that taking care of eyes should be utmost needed.

 

Reasons : 12th lord sun in lagna , lagna under papa kartari yoga,

mercury is debilitated in navamsha, second from moon has rahu.

 

Overall chart is good with exalted vargottama 5L saturn and other

factors as explained by shri Sunil nair ji.

 

Thankyou,

Regards,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

 

 

 

 

 

, " gopalakrishna "

<gopi_b927 wrote:

>

> Dear Sunilnair ji,

> thankyou very much for the greetings.I will cherish them.Please dont

> bother about BELATED and i will get back to you soon......

> Love and regards,

> gopi.

> , " astro_tellerkerala "

> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Gopikrishanji

> >

> > thanks for ur data

> >

> > belated happy Birthday wishes ,i got busy and hence just now only

cud

> > able to see ur chart

> >

> > u got a beautiful suryaditya yoga called Nipuna Yoga in lagna /also

a

> > bhadra yoga by mercury being in kendra to moon and lagna .

> >

> > I dont Know ur educational qualifications

> >

> > ur rahu -merc is going on and it is in sun 's Nakshtra

> > and which is participating in the above said yoga

> > rahu in 5th house of higher learning ,astrology also will come under

> > that catagary

> >

> > can u tell me abt ur profession /invesmnt habbits / education /ur

> study

> > of astrology /brothers and sisters etc etc

> >

> > if u r reluctant to discuss in open pls sent it to my personal mail

..

> >

> > rgrds sunil nair

> >

> > note -merc and nodes r in pushkaramsa .it says pushkarmsa will

increse

> > the significations of the said planets in dasa and general .

> >

> > There is a Kumbha mela of transits going to happen in ur lagna esp

frm

> > 18th nite as sun and moon will join sat and merc ,watch out this

> period

> > and sanies transit

> >

> > How was ur sun period ( mahadasa ) ??

> >

> > , " gopi_b927 "

> > gopi_b927@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sunilnair ji,

> > > my chart was discussed i think in some other context.Anyway i am

> > posting

> > > again here below.

> > > D.O.B.......17-9-1953

> > > P.O.B........GUNTUR

> > > T.O.B......6.35.35Hrs

> > >

> > > Love and regards,

> > > gopi.

> > > ,

> " astro_tellerkerala "

> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Gopalkrishnan ji

> > > >

> > > > thansk for ur post

> > > >

> > > > can u post u r data in grp if not already discussed

> > > >

> > > > rgrds sunil nair

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " gopalakrishna "

> > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,

> > > > > yes,i also have the same querry and also the same mer in

> > question.Me

> > > > is

> > > > > my lagna and 10th lord exal in lagna(ofcourse in PKY) AND

> > > DEBILITATED

> > > > in

> > > > > lagna in D9.

> > > > > But Mer always gave mixed results but majority of them are

> > > > positive.One

> > > > > of them is i joined this group in my Rahu-Mer period!!!....

> > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > gopi.

> > > >

> >

>

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dear gopi Ji thanks for ur post i will wait for ur feed backs rgrds sunil nair , "gopalakrishna" <gopi_b927 wrote:>> Dear Sunilnair ji,> thankyou very much for the greetings.I will cherish them.Please dont> bother about BELATED and i will get back to you soon......> Love and regards,> gopi.> , "astro_tellerkerala"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> > Dear Gopikrishanji> >> > thanks for ur data> >> > belated happy Birthday wishes ,i got busy and hence just now only cud> > able to see ur chart> >> > u got a beautiful suryaditya yoga called Nipuna Yoga in lagna /also a> > bhadra yoga by mercury being in kendra to moon and lagna .> >> > I dont Know ur educational qualifications> >> > ur rahu -merc is going on and it is in sun 's Nakshtra> > and which is participating in the above said yoga> > rahu in 5th house of higher learning ,astrology also will come under> > that catagary> >> > can u tell me abt ur profession /invesmnt habbits / education /ur> study> > of astrology /brothers and sisters etc etc> >> > if u r reluctant to discuss in open pls sent it to my personal mail .> >> > rgrds sunil nair> >> > note -merc and nodes r in pushkaramsa .it says pushkarmsa will increse> > the significations of the said planets in dasa and general .> >> > There is a Kumbha mela of transits going to happen in ur lagna esp frm> > 18th nite as sun and moon will join sat and merc ,watch out this> period> > and sanies transit> >> > How was ur sun period ( mahadasa ) ??> >> > , "gopi_b927"> > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > my chart was discussed i think in some other context.Anyway i am> > posting> > > again here below.> > > D.O.B.......17-9-1953> > > P.O.B........GUNTUR> > > T.O.B......6.35.35Hrs> > >> > > Love and regards,> > > gopi.> > > ,> "astro_tellerkerala"> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Gopalkrishnan ji> > > >> > > > thansk for ur post> > > >> > > > can u post u r data in grp if not already discussed> > > >> > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "gopalakrishna"> > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > > > yes,i also have the same querry and also the same mer in> > question.Me> > > > is> > > > > my lagna and 10th lord exal in lagna(ofcourse in PKY) AND> > > DEBILITATED> > > > in> > > > > lagna in D9.> > > > > But Mer always gave mixed results but majority of them are> > > > positive.One> > > > > of them is i joined this group in my Rahu-Mer period!!!....> > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > gopi.> > > >> >>

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Dear Vijay Ji, Sunil Ji,

 

Shri Gopiji's chart is one of the tricky ones I have seen. A careful observation will show that there is no strong connection between kendras and trines. Hence while there are yogas plentiful in the chart, it will be very difficult to materialize. The most important trine lord, the ascendant, is unfortunately debilitated in Navamsha. Interestingly Me is also the 10L and the only kendra lord with a connection with a trine (placed in the Asc). Hence his deb is doubly unfortunate (for material benefits).

 

Regarding Saturn being Vargottama and Exalted, it is a double edged sword. Using Iyer's principles for prosepeirty, Rahu is the avayogi planet. That should be as weak as possible for good prosperity. But he is instead placed in the 5H, in a friend's sign and his dispositor Saturn is Vargottam and Exalted, and aspected by Jupiter. Rahu is also unaspected by any malefic. So the Avayogi, the graha of Penury, is strong. This makes it very difficult money wise in Rahu dasha. However, I think Rahu-Ketu starting at the end of this year, should be slightly better, since Ketu is the Yogi planet and is in a reasonably good shape.

 

However, this chart has great spiritual possibilities that has been dicussed in detail earlier.

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

vijay.goel <goyalvj Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 9:30:38 AM Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga

Dear Gopiji,Nice chart indeed.Just as a caution, i want to say :Vimsottari Dasa:Rah MD: 1999-04-24 - 2017-04-23Ven AD: 2010-11-10 - 2013-11-10The antar dasa of venus in mahadasa rahu will be very poor in healthterms. In this time taking care of health is seriously needed.Even i feel that taking care of eyes should be utmost needed.Reasons : 12th lord sun in lagna , lagna under papa kartari yoga,mercury is debilitated in navamsha, second from moon has rahu.Overall chart is good with exalted vargottama 5L saturn and otherfactors as explained by shri Sunil nair ji.Thankyou,Regards,Vijay GoelJaipur.ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"<gopi_b927@. ..>

wrote:>> Dear Sunilnair ji,> thankyou very much for the greetings.I will cherish them.Please dont> bother about BELATED and i will get back to you soon......> Love and regards,> gopi.> ancient_indian_ astrology, "astro_tellerkerala "> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> > Dear Gopikrishanji> >> > thanks for ur data> >> > belated happy Birthday wishes ,i got busy and hence just now onlycud> > able to see ur chart> >> > u got a beautiful suryaditya yoga called Nipuna Yoga in lagna /alsoa> > bhadra yoga by mercury being in kendra to moon and lagna .> >> > I dont Know ur educational

qualifications> >> > ur rahu -merc is going on and it is in sun 's Nakshtra> > and which is participating in the above said yoga> > rahu in 5th house of higher learning ,astrology also will come under> > that catagary> >> > can u tell me abt ur profession /invesmnt habbits / education /ur> study> > of astrology /brothers and sisters etc etc> >> > if u r reluctant to discuss in open pls sent it to my personal mail.> >> > rgrds sunil nair> >> > note -merc and nodes r in pushkaramsa .it says pushkarmsa willincrese> > the significations of the said planets in dasa and general .> >> > There is a Kumbha mela of transits going to happen in ur lagna espfrm> > 18th nite as sun and moon will join sat and merc ,watch out this> period> > and sanies

transit> >> > How was ur sun period ( mahadasa ) ??> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopi_b927"> > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > my chart was discussed i think in some other context.Anyway i am> > posting> > > again here below.> > > D.O.B....... 17-9-1953> > > P.O.B....... .GUNTUR> > > T.O.B......6. 35.35Hrs> > >> > > Love and regards,> > > gopi.> > > ancient_indian_ astrology,>

"astro_tellerkerala "> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Gopalkrishnan ji> > > >> > > > thansk for ur post> > > >> > > > can u post u r data in grp if not already discussed> > > >> > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > > > yes,i also have the same querry and also the same mer in> > question.Me> > > > is> > > > > my lagna and

10th lord exal in lagna(ofcourse in PKY) AND> > > DEBILITATED> > > > in> > > > > lagna in D9.> > > > > But Mer always gave mixed results but majority of them are> > > > positive.One> > > > > of them is i joined this group in my Rahu-Mer period!!!... .> > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > gopi.> > > >> >>

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Dear Manoj ji,thanks for the warning....I would like those who are interested to discuss(NO) marriage prospects apart from penury etc.......Love and regards,gopi. , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:>> Dear Vijay Ji, Sunil Ji,> > Shri Gopiji's chart is one of the tricky ones I have seen. A careful observation will show that there is no strong connection between kendras and trines. Hence while there are yogas plentiful in the chart, it will be very difficult to materialize. The most important trine lord, the ascendant, is unfortunately debilitated in Navamsha. Interestingly Me is also the 10L and the only kendra lord with a connection with a trine (placed in the Asc). Hence his deb is doubly unfortunate (for material benefits).> > Regarding Saturn being Vargottama and Exalted, it is a double edged sword. Using Iyer's principles for prosepeirty, Rahu is the avayogi planet. That should be as weak as possible for good prosperity. But he is instead placed in the 5H, in a friend's sign and his dispositor Saturn is Vargottam and Exalted, and aspected by Jupiter. Rahu is also unaspected by any malefic. So the Avayogi, the graha of Penury, is strong. This makes it very difficult money wise in Rahu dasha. However, I think Rahu-Ketu starting at the end of this year, should be slightly better, since Ketu is the Yogi planet and is in a reasonably good shape.> > However, this chart has great spiritual possibilities that has been dicussed in detail earlier.> > Regards,> -Manoj> > > > > > ________________________________> vijay.goel goyalvj > Friday, September 18, 2009 9:30:38 AM> Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga> > > Dear Gopiji,> > Nice chart indeed.> > Just as a caution, i want to say :> > Vimsottari Dasa:> > Rah MD: 1999-04-24 - 2017-04-23> Ven AD: 2010-11-10 - 2013-11-10> > The antar dasa of venus in mahadasa rahu will be very poor in health> terms. In this time taking care of health is seriously needed.> Even i feel that taking care of eyes should be utmost needed.> > Reasons : 12th lord sun in lagna , lagna under papa kartari yoga,> mercury is debilitated in navamsha, second from moon has rahu.> > Overall chart is good with exalted vargottama 5L saturn and other> factors as explained by shri Sunil nair ji.> > Thankyou,> Regards,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> gopi_b927@ ..> wrote:> >> > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > thankyou very much for the greetings.I will cherish them.Please dont> > bother about BELATED and i will get back to you soon......> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "astro_tellerkerala "> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Gopikrishanji> > >> > > thanks for ur data> > >> > > belated happy Birthday wishes ,i got busy and hence just now only> cud> > > able to see ur chart> > >> > > u got a beautiful suryaditya yoga called Nipuna Yoga in lagna /also> a> > > bhadra yoga by mercury being in kendra to moon and lagna .> > >> > > I dont Know ur educational qualifications> > >> > > ur rahu -merc is going on and it is in sun 's Nakshtra> > > and which is participating in the above said yoga> > > rahu in 5th house of higher learning ,astrology also will come under> > > that catagary> > >> > > can u tell me abt ur profession /invesmnt habbits / education /ur> > study> > > of astrology /brothers and sisters etc etc> > >> > > if u r reluctant to discuss in open pls sent it to my personal mail> .> > >> > > rgrds sunil nair> > >> > > note -merc and nodes r in pushkaramsa .it says pushkarmsa will> increse> > > the significations of the said planets in dasa and general .> > >> > > There is a Kumbha mela of transits going to happen in ur lagna esp> frm> > > 18th nite as sun and moon will join sat and merc ,watch out this> > period> > > and sanies transit> > >> > > How was ur sun period ( mahadasa ) ??> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopi_b927"> > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > > my chart was discussed i think in some other context.Anyway i am> > > posting> > > > again here below.> > > > D.O.B....... 17-9-1953> > > > P.O.B....... .GUNTUR> > > > T.O.B......6. 35.35Hrs> > > >> > > > Love and regards,> > > > gopi.> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > "astro_tellerkerala "> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Gopalkrishnan ji> > > > >> > > > > thansk for ur post> > > > >> > > > > can u post u r data in grp if not already discussed> > > > >> > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > > > > yes,i also have the same querry and also the same mer in> > > question.Me> > > > > is> > > > > > my lagna and 10th lord exal in lagna(ofcourse in PKY) AND> > > > DEBILITATED> > > > > in> > > > > > lagna in D9.> > > > > > But Mer always gave mixed results but majority of them are> > > > > positive.One> > > > > > of them is i joined this group in my Rahu-Mer period!!!... .> > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > gopi.> > > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Manoj ji,good observations.//Shri Gopiji's chart is one of the tricky ones I have seen. A careful

observation will show that there is no strong connection between

kendras and trines. Hence while there are yogas plentiful in the chart,

it will be very difficult to materialize.//is it because of badhaka jup?yes,i believe so with experience.I could feel throughout jup and sat are playing a great game(LEELA)WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO GIVE R.Y.Almost all other planets are in between and both jup and sat are in the nakshatra of mars,the 1st rate malefic for the lagna sitting in a royal friendly sign in 12th!may be giving V.R.Y INSTEAD OF R.Y......Love and regards,gopi. , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:>> Dear Vijay Ji, Sunil Ji,> > Shri Gopiji's chart is one of the tricky ones I have seen. A careful

observation will show that there is no strong connection between

kendras and trines. Hence while there are yogas plentiful in the chart,

it will be very difficult to materialize. The most important trine lord, the ascendant, is unfortunately debilitated in Navamsha. Interestingly Me is also the 10L and the only kendra lord with a connection with a trine (placed in the Asc). Hence his deb is doubly unfortunate (for material benefits).> > Regarding Saturn being Vargottama and Exalted, it is a double edged sword. Using Iyer's principles for prosepeirty, Rahu is the avayogi planet. That should be as weak as possible for good prosperity. But he is instead placed in the 5H, in a friend's sign and his dispositor Saturn is Vargottam and Exalted, and aspected by Jupiter. Rahu is also unaspected by any malefic. So the Avayogi, the graha of Penury, is strong. This makes it very difficult money wise in Rahu dasha. However, I think Rahu-Ketu starting at the end of this year, should be slightly better, since Ketu is the Yogi planet and is in a reasonably good shape.> > However, this chart has great spiritual possibilities that has been dicussed in detail earlier.> > Regards,> -Manoj> > > > > > ________________________________> vijay.goel goyalvj > Friday, September 18, 2009 9:30:38 AM> Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga> > > Dear Gopiji,> > Nice chart indeed.> > Just as a caution, i want to say :> > Vimsottari Dasa:> > Rah MD: 1999-04-24 - 2017-04-23> Ven AD: 2010-11-10 - 2013-11-10> > The antar dasa of venus in mahadasa rahu will be very poor in health> terms. In this time taking care of health is seriously needed.> Even i feel that taking care of eyes should be utmost needed.> > Reasons : 12th lord sun in lagna , lagna under papa kartari yoga,> mercury is debilitated in navamsha, second from moon has rahu.> > Overall chart is good with exalted vargottama 5L saturn and other> factors as explained by shri Sunil nair ji.> > Thankyou,> Regards,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> gopi_b927@ ..> wrote:> >> > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > thankyou very much for the greetings.I will cherish them.Please dont> > bother about BELATED and i will get back to you soon......> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "astro_tellerkerala "> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Gopikrishanji> > >> > > thanks for ur data> > >> > > belated happy Birthday wishes ,i got busy and hence just now only> cud> > > able to see ur chart> > >> > > u got a beautiful suryaditya yoga called Nipuna Yoga in lagna /also> a> > > bhadra yoga by mercury being in kendra to moon and lagna .> > >> > > I dont Know ur educational qualifications> > >> > > ur rahu -merc is going on and it is in sun 's Nakshtra> > > and which is participating in the above said yoga> > > rahu in 5th house of higher learning ,astrology also will come under> > > that catagary> > >> > > can u tell me abt ur profession /invesmnt habbits / education /ur> > study> > > of astrology /brothers and sisters etc etc> > >> > > if u r reluctant to discuss in open pls sent it to my personal mail> .> > >> > > rgrds sunil nair> > >> > > note -merc and nodes r in pushkaramsa .it says pushkarmsa will> increse> > > the significations of the said planets in dasa and general .> > >> > > There is a Kumbha mela of transits going to happen in ur lagna esp> frm> > > 18th nite as sun and moon will join sat and merc ,watch out this> > period> > > and sanies transit> > >> > > How was ur sun period ( mahadasa ) ??> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopi_b927"> > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > > my chart was discussed i think in some other context.Anyway i am> > > posting> > > > again here below.> > > > D.O.B....... 17-9-1953> > > > P.O.B....... .GUNTUR> > > > T.O.B......6. 35.35Hrs> > > >> > > > Love and regards,> > > > gopi.> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > "astro_tellerkerala "> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Gopalkrishnan ji> > > > >> > > > > thansk for ur post> > > > >> > > > > can u post u r data in grp if not already discussed> > > > >> > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > > > > yes,i also have the same querry and also the same mer in> > > question.Me> > > > > is> > > > > > my lagna and 10th lord exal in lagna(ofcourse in PKY) AND> > > > DEBILITATED> > > > > in> > > > > > lagna in D9.> > > > > > But Mer always gave mixed results but majority of them are> > > > > positive.One> > > > > > of them is i joined this group in my Rahu-Mer period!!!... .> > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > gopi.> > > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Manoj JI and others along with manoj ji s beautiful observations let me add few more points .( i dont Know also who corrected the birth time upto seconds as we vedic astrologers need the reported time than some one correct it according to the system they follows ) most of the important planets and Major dasa Lords since birth is in rasi santhi or not functional benefics ,even Birth was ON samkranthi day which can giv sun in rasi santhi status ) along with a strong PKY in lagna .even if u see Birth dasa ( Dasa at birth-To get a vague idea of journey of this soul at this birth tru progressing dasa s by Noting dasaantara at birth ) is ketu ( with a atibalya venus and 9th L of the chart ) and sub period is JUP ( who again in vridha avasta and 7th and 4th L and who also participated in Gaja kesari Yoga ) and then merc pratyantara ( lagna Lord frm lagna and 7th L frm moon sign it is debilated in navamsa and hence a sort of raja Bhanga yoga too materialisticaly ) Born in Prabhatha sandya ( again a santhi ),junction between nite and day .Like Manoj ji said the antiYogi grp of planets ( sun,mer ,rahu ) is having full influence in lagna .and lagan Lord is weak and the yoga giving planets in chart is also weak in one way or other ( being in santhi or debilated )even the GK ( gaja kesari Yoga ) If u see frm moon who is also strong the picture is More clear ,along with Lord of 7th and 10th In PKY and karaka in 8th house and 5th and 9th connections repeats there and it may b cause of spiritual aspirations even the aspect of 8th and lagna lord ( moon and jup ) may show this hidden tensenciesAs a karaka venus and its Kendras afflicted May b the reason behind No marriage and further adding fuel to fire ( here spirituality ) this is some quick notes frm my side sani aspects a karaka and karak with rahu-ketu axis is some sort of karmic trigger which can work in unexpected ways and here it is the karaka for Money ( as Natural 2nd Lord ) and marriage is afflicted .Sani also 5th L and venus is 9th L and hence it is doubly confirming it ,the nature of events that may happen but sure i agree one Look the chart may b decieving and this is a chart which can b unlocked ( if no events r known prior to astrologer ) only by highly spiritual serious satwik astrologers rgrds sunil nair , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:>> Dear Vijay Ji, Sunil Ji,> > Shri Gopiji's chart is one of the tricky ones I have seen. A careful observation will show that there is no strong connection between kendras and trines. Hence while there are yogas plentiful in the chart, it will be very difficult to materialize. The most important trine lord, the ascendant, is unfortunately debilitated in Navamsha. Interestingly Me is also the 10L and the only kendra lord with a connection with a trine (placed in the Asc). Hence his deb is doubly unfortunate (for material benefits).> > Regarding Saturn being Vargottama and Exalted, it is a double edged sword. Using Iyer's principles for prosepeirty, Rahu is the avayogi planet. That should be as weak as possible for good prosperity. But he is instead placed in the 5H, in a friend's sign and his dispositor Saturn is Vargottam and Exalted, and aspected by Jupiter. Rahu is also unaspected by any malefic. So the Avayogi, the graha of Penury, is strong. This makes it very difficult money wise in Rahu dasha. However, I think Rahu-Ketu starting at the end of this year, should be slightly better, since Ketu is the Yogi planet and is in a reasonably good shape.> > However, this chart has great spiritual possibilities that has been dicussed in detail earlier.> > Regards,> -Manoj> > > > > > ________________________________> vijay.goel goyalvj > Friday, September 18, 2009 9:30:38 AM> Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga> > > Dear Gopiji,> > Nice chart indeed.> > Just as a caution, i want to say :> > Vimsottari Dasa:> > Rah MD: 1999-04-24 - 2017-04-23> Ven AD: 2010-11-10 - 2013-11-10> > The antar dasa of venus in mahadasa rahu will be very poor in health> terms. In this time taking care of health is seriously needed.> Even i feel that taking care of eyes should be utmost needed.> > Reasons : 12th lord sun in lagna , lagna under papa kartari yoga,> mercury is debilitated in navamsha, second from moon has rahu.> > Overall chart is good with exalted vargottama 5L saturn and other> factors as explained by shri Sunil nair ji.> > Thankyou,> Regards,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> gopi_b927@ ..> wrote:> >> > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > thankyou very much for the greetings.I will cherish them.Please dont> > bother about BELATED and i will get back to you soon......> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "astro_tellerkerala "> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Gopikrishanji> > >> > > thanks for ur data> > >> > > belated happy Birthday wishes ,i got busy and hence just now only> cud> > > able to see ur chart> > >> > > u got a beautiful suryaditya yoga called Nipuna Yoga in lagna /also> a> > > bhadra yoga by mercury being in kendra to moon and lagna .> > >> > > I dont Know ur educational qualifications> > >> > > ur rahu -merc is going on and it is in sun 's Nakshtra> > > and which is participating in the above said yoga> > > rahu in 5th house of higher learning ,astrology also will come under> > > that catagary> > >> > > can u tell me abt ur profession /invesmnt habbits / education /ur> > study> > > of astrology /brothers and sisters etc etc> > >> > > if u r reluctant to discuss in open pls sent it to my personal mail> .> > >> > > rgrds sunil nair> > >> > > note -merc and nodes r in pushkaramsa .it says pushkarmsa will> increse> > > the significations of the said planets in dasa and general .> > >> > > There is a Kumbha mela of transits going to happen in ur lagna esp> frm> > > 18th nite as sun and moon will join sat and merc ,watch out this> > period> > > and sanies transit> > >> > > How was ur sun period ( mahadasa ) ??> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopi_b927"> > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > > my chart was discussed i think in some other context.Anyway i am> > > posting> > > > again here below.> > > > D.O.B....... 17-9-1953> > > > P.O.B....... .GUNTUR> > > > T.O.B......6. 35.35Hrs> > > >> > > > Love and regards,> > > > gopi.> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > "astro_tellerkerala "> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Gopalkrishnan ji> > > > >> > > > > thansk for ur post> > > > >> > > > > can u post u r data in grp if not already discussed> > > > >> > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > > > > yes,i also have the same querry and also the same mer in> > > question.Me> > > > > is> > > > > > my lagna and 10th lord exal in lagna(ofcourse in PKY) AND> > > > DEBILITATED> > > > > in> > > > > > lagna in D9.> > > > > > But Mer always gave mixed results but majority of them are> > > > > positive.One> > > > > > of them is i joined this group in my Rahu-Mer period!!!... .> > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > gopi.> > > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Sunilnair ji,great analysis and observations.Thankyou for your precious time as well.I only corected the birth time from the available one to just one or 2mts this way or that way with the availability of j.hora.Few of our ancestors are also astrologers.I had abetter materialistic life from mo-jup on wards till the end of moon.The moment mars started it was terrible tension and i had to resign from my prime career in mars-jup-sat.From then on till date it is a total dependency on GOD ONLY....and i never have had any fear or regrets.Love and regards,gopi. , "astro_tellerkerala" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > Dear Manoj JI and others> > along with manoj ji s beautiful observations> > let me add few more points .( i dont Know also who corrected the birth> time upto seconds as we vedic astrologers need the reported time than> some one correct it according to the system they follows )> > most of the important planets and Major dasa Lords since birth is in> rasi santhi or not functional benefics ,even Birth was ON samkranthi day> which can giv sun in rasi santhi status ) along with a strong PKY in> lagna .> > even if u see Birth dasa ( Dasa at birth-To get a vague idea of journey> of this soul at this birth tru progressing dasa s by Noting dasaantara> at birth ) is ketu ( with a atibalya venus and 9th L of the chart ) and> sub period is JUP ( who again in vridha avasta and 7th and 4th L and who> also participated in Gaja kesari Yoga ) and then merc pratyantara (> lagna Lord frm lagna and 7th L frm moon sign it is debilated in navamsa> and hence a sort of raja Bhanga yoga too materialisticaly )> > Born in Prabhatha sandya ( again a santhi ),junction between nite and> day .> > Like Manoj ji said the antiYogi grp of planets ( sun,mer ,rahu ) is> having full influence in lagna .> and lagan Lord is weak and the yoga giving planets in chart is also weak> in one way or other ( being in santhi or debilated )> > even the GK ( gaja kesari Yoga )> If u see frm moon who is also strong the picture is More clear ,along> with Lord of 7th and 10th In PKY and karaka in 8th house and 5th and 9th> connections repeats there and it may b cause of spiritual aspirations> > even the aspect of 8th and lagna lord ( moon and jup ) may show this> hidden tensencies> > As a karaka venus and its Kendras afflicted May b the reason behind No> marriage and further adding fuel to fire ( here spirituality )> > this is some quick notes frm my side> > sani aspects a karaka and karak with rahu-ketu axis is some sort of> karmic trigger which can work in unexpected ways and here it is the> karaka for Money ( as Natural 2nd Lord ) and marriage is afflicted .Sani> also 5th L and venus is 9th L and hence it is doubly confirming it ,the> nature of events that may happen> > but sure i agree one Look the chart may b decieving and this is a chart> which can b unlocked ( if no events r known prior to astrologer ) only> by highly spiritual serious satwik astrologers> > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > > , Manoj Chandran> chandran_manoj@ wrote:> >> > Dear Vijay Ji, Sunil Ji,> >> > Shri Gopiji's chart is one of the tricky ones I have seen. A careful> observation will show that there is no strong connection between kendras> and trines. Hence while there are yogas plentiful in the chart, it will> be very difficult to materialize. The most important trine lord, the> ascendant, is unfortunately debilitated in Navamsha. Interestingly Me is> also the 10L and the only kendra lord with a connection with a trine> (placed in the Asc). Hence his deb is doubly unfortunate (for material> benefits).> >> > Regarding Saturn being Vargottama and Exalted, it is a double edged> sword. Using Iyer's principles for prosepeirty, Rahu is the avayogi> planet. That should be as weak as possible for good prosperity. But he> is instead placed in the 5H, in a friend's sign and his dispositor> Saturn is Vargottam and Exalted, and aspected by Jupiter. Rahu is also> unaspected by any malefic. So the Avayogi, the graha of Penury, is> strong. This makes it very difficult money wise in Rahu dasha. However,> I think Rahu-Ketu starting at the end of this year, should be slightly> better, since Ketu is the Yogi planet and is in a reasonably good shape.> >> > However, this chart has great spiritual possibilities that has been> dicussed in detail earlier.> >> > Regards,> > -Manoj> >> >> >> >> >> > ________________________________> > vijay.goel goyalvj@> > > > Friday, September 18, 2009 9:30:38 AM> > Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga> >> >> > Dear Gopiji,> >> > Nice chart indeed.> >> > Just as a caution, i want to say :> >> > Vimsottari Dasa:> >> > Rah MD: 1999-04-24 - 2017-04-23> > Ven AD: 2010-11-10 - 2013-11-10> >> > The antar dasa of venus in mahadasa rahu will be very poor in health> > terms. In this time taking care of health is seriously needed.> > Even i feel that taking care of eyes should be utmost needed.> >> > Reasons : 12th lord sun in lagna , lagna under papa kartari yoga,> > mercury is debilitated in navamsha, second from moon has rahu.> >> > Overall chart is good with exalted vargottama 5L saturn and other> > factors as explained by shri Sunil nair ji.> >> > Thankyou,> > Regards,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur.> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> > gopi_b927@ ..> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > thankyou very much for the greetings.I will cherish them.Please dont> > > bother about BELATED and i will get back to you soon......> > > Love and regards,> > > gopi.> > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> "astro_tellerkerala "> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Gopikrishanji> > > >> > > > thanks for ur data> > > >> > > > belated happy Birthday wishes ,i got busy and hence just now only> > cud> > > > able to see ur chart> > > >> > > > u got a beautiful suryaditya yoga called Nipuna Yoga in lagna> /also> > a> > > > bhadra yoga by mercury being in kendra to moon and lagna .> > > >> > > > I dont Know ur educational qualifications> > > >> > > > ur rahu -merc is going on and it is in sun 's Nakshtra> > > > and which is participating in the above said yoga> > > > rahu in 5th house of higher learning ,astrology also will come> under> > > > that catagary> > > >> > > > can u tell me abt ur profession /invesmnt habbits / education /ur> > > study> > > > of astrology /brothers and sisters etc etc> > > >> > > > if u r reluctant to discuss in open pls sent it to my personal> mail> > .> > > >> > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > >> > > > note -merc and nodes r in pushkaramsa .it says pushkarmsa will> > increse> > > > the significations of the said planets in dasa and general .> > > >> > > > There is a Kumbha mela of transits going to happen in ur lagna esp> > frm> > > > 18th nite as sun and moon will join sat and merc ,watch out this> > > period> > > > and sanies transit> > > >> > > > How was ur sun period ( mahadasa ) ??> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopi_b927"> > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > > > my chart was discussed i think in some other context.Anyway i am> > > > posting> > > > > again here below.> > > > > D.O.B....... 17-9-1953> > > > > P.O.B....... .GUNTUR> > > > > T.O.B......6. 35.35Hrs> > > > >> > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > gopi.> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > "astro_tellerkerala "> > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Gopalkrishnan ji> > > > > >> > > > > > thansk for ur post> > > > > >> > > > > > can u post u r data in grp if not already discussed> > > > > >> > > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> "gopalakrishna"> > > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > > > > > yes,i also have the same querry and also the same mer in> > > > question.Me> > > > > > is> > > > > > > my lagna and 10th lord exal in lagna(ofcourse in PKY) AND> > > > > DEBILITATED> > > > > > in> > > > > > > lagna in D9.> > > > > > > But Mer always gave mixed results but majority of them are> > > > > > positive.One> > > > > > > of them is i joined this group in my Rahu-Mer period!!!... .> > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Manoj ji,Very nice analysis and good display of Iyer's principle for Yogi and Avayogi application. //Regarding Saturn being Vargottama and Exalted, it is a double edged sword//Right, I feel this planet is only the 'final' cause for denial of marital happiness, a strong vargottama 6L and 8th in navamsha aspecting moon and afflicted venus.On the other hand this same planet materialistically will give lot of properties either inherently or directly.Vimsottari Dasa: Rah MD: 1999-04-24 - 2017-04-23 Ket AD: 2009-10-23 - 2010-11-10Now the antar of ketu which is coming shortly (also yogi planet as per Iyer's, good), the rasi dispositer is moon is in 4th house and nakshatra dispositer is saturn is in 2nd house, itself placed in 11th house with bhagyesh venus. Saturn is connecting all venus, moon, ketu , 2,4,11 houses. It is probably sure that he can gain property or\and huge money through sale of properties in this period.//Rahu is the avayogi planet. That should be as weak as possible for good prosperity. But he is instead placed in the 5H, in a friend's signand his dispositor Saturn is Vargottam and Exalted, and aspected byJupiter. Rahu is also unaspected by any malefic. So the Avayogi,the graha of Penury, is strong//Very Nice !, thankyou for this point.Just adding one more important factor that rahu is in trinal nakshtra of lagna [lagna and rahu nakshatra lordship is same], the major cause of obstruction materially as per principles of Iyers technique.----------For members : calculation of yogi planet as per Iyer's method is simple and is present in JHora SW.SUM of MOON's + SUN's longitude + 93 degree 20 min. The 'nakshatra lord' at this point of the 'sum' is Yogi planet.Avayogi planet is 6th planet from yogi planet as per vimsottari dasa lordship.-------------Thankyou Gopiji, just allowing us to analyse\discuss you chart and to learn.Best Wishes,Vijay GoelJaipur. , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:>> Dear Vijay Ji, Sunil Ji,> > Shri Gopiji's chart is one of the tricky ones I have seen. A careful observation will show that there is no strong connection between kendras and trines. Hence while there are yogas plentiful in the chart, it will be very difficult to materialize. The most important trine lord, the ascendant, is unfortunately debilitated in Navamsha. Interestingly Me is also the 10L and the only kendra lord with a connection with a trine (placed in the Asc). Hence his deb is doubly unfortunate (for material benefits).> > Regarding Saturn being Vargottama and Exalted, it is a double edged sword. Using Iyer's principles for prosepeirty, Rahu is the avayogi planet. That should be as weak as possible for good prosperity. But he is instead placed in the 5H, in a friend's sign and his dispositor Saturn is Vargottam and Exalted, and aspected by Jupiter. Rahu is also unaspected by any malefic. So the Avayogi, the graha of Penury, is strong. This makes it very difficult money wise in Rahu dasha. However, I think Rahu-Ketu starting at the end of this year, should be slightly better, since Ketu is the Yogi planet and is in a reasonably good shape.> > However, this chart has great spiritual possibilities that has been dicussed in detail earlier.> > Regards,> -Manoj> > > > > > ________________________________> vijay.goel goyalvj > Friday, September 18, 2009 9:30:38 AM> Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga> > > Dear Gopiji,> > Nice chart indeed.> > Just as a caution, i want to say :> > Vimsottari Dasa:> > Rah MD: 1999-04-24 - 2017-04-23> Ven AD: 2010-11-10 - 2013-11-10> > The antar dasa of venus in mahadasa rahu will be very poor in health> terms. In this time taking care of health is seriously needed.> Even i feel that taking care of eyes should be utmost needed.> > Reasons : 12th lord sun in lagna , lagna under papa kartari yoga,> mercury is debilitated in navamsha, second from moon has rahu.> > Overall chart is good with exalted vargottama 5L saturn and other> factors as explained by shri Sunil nair ji.> > Thankyou,> Regards,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> gopi_b927@ ..> wrote:> >> > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > thankyou very much for the greetings.I will cherish them.Please dont> > bother about BELATED and i will get back to you soon......> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "astro_tellerkerala "> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Gopikrishanji> > >> > > thanks for ur data> > >> > > belated happy Birthday wishes ,i got busy and hence just now only> cud> > > able to see ur chart> > >> > > u got a beautiful suryaditya yoga called Nipuna Yoga in lagna /also> a> > > bhadra yoga by mercury being in kendra to moon and lagna .> > >> > > I dont Know ur educational qualifications> > >> > > ur rahu -merc is going on and it is in sun 's Nakshtra> > > and which is participating in the above said yoga> > > rahu in 5th house of higher learning ,astrology also will come under> > > that catagary> > >> > > can u tell me abt ur profession /invesmnt habbits / education /ur> > study> > > of astrology /brothers and sisters etc etc> > >> > > if u r reluctant to discuss in open pls sent it to my personal mail> .> > >> > > rgrds sunil nair> > >> > > note -merc and nodes r in pushkaramsa .it says pushkarmsa will> increse> > > the significations of the said planets in dasa and general .> > >> > > There is a Kumbha mela of transits going to happen in ur lagna esp> frm> > > 18th nite as sun and moon will join sat and merc ,watch out this> > period> > > and sanies transit> > >> > > How was ur sun period ( mahadasa ) ??> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopi_b927"> > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > > my chart was discussed i think in some other context.Anyway i am> > > posting> > > > again here below.> > > > D.O.B....... 17-9-1953> > > > P.O.B....... .GUNTUR> > > > T.O.B......6. 35.35Hrs> > > >> > > > Love and regards,> > > > gopi.> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > "astro_tellerkerala "> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Gopalkrishnan ji> > > > >> > > > > thansk for ur post> > > > >> > > > > can u post u r data in grp if not already discussed> > > > >> > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > > > > yes,i also have the same querry and also the same mer in> > > question.Me> > > > > is> > > > > > my lagna and 10th lord exal in lagna(ofcourse in PKY) AND> > > > DEBILITATED> > > > > in> > > > > > lagna in D9.> > > > > > But Mer always gave mixed results but majority of them are> > > > > positive.One> > > > > > of them is i joined this group in my Rahu-Mer period!!!... .> > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > gopi.> > > > >> > >> >>

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Vijay Ji,

 

Very nice points.

 

//Just adding one more important factor that rahu is in trinal nakshtra of lagna

[lagna and rahu nakshatra lordship is same], the major cause of obstruction

materially as per principles of Iyers technique.//

 

Thank you for adding this critical point in Iyer analysis.

 

Beautiful discussion. Much thanks to Gopi Ji for having graciously allowed this.

 

Regards,

 -Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

vijay.goel <goyalvj

 

Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:27:38 AM

Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga

 

 

Dear Manoj ji,

 

Very nice analysis and good display of Iyer's principle for Yogi and Avayogi

application.

 

//Regarding Saturn being Vargottama and Exalted, it is a double edged sword//

 

Right, I feel this planet is only the 'final' cause for denial of marital

happiness, a strong vargottama 6L and 8th in navamsha aspecting moon and

afflicted venus.

On the other hand this same planet materialistically will give lot of properties

either inherently or directly.

 

Vimsottari Dasa:

 

 Rah MD:  1999-04-24  -  2017-04-23

  Ket AD:  2009-10-23  -  2010-11-10

 

Now the antar of ketu which is coming shortly (also yogi planet as per Iyer's,

good), the rasi dispositer is moon is in 4th house and nakshatra dispositer is

saturn is in 2nd house, itself placed in 11th house with bhagyesh venus. Saturn

is connecting all venus, moon, ketu , 2,4,11 houses. It is probably sure that he

can gain property or\and  huge money through sale of properties in this period.

 

//Rahu is the avayogi planet. That should be as weak as possible for

good prosperity. But he is instead placed in the 5H, in a friend's signand his

dispositor Saturn is Vargottam and Exalted, and aspected byJupiter. Rahu is also

unaspected by any malefic. So the Avayogi,the graha of Penury, is strong//

 

Very Nice !, thankyou for this point.

Just adding one more important factor that rahu is in trinal nakshtra of lagna

[lagna and rahu nakshatra lordship is same], the major cause of obstruction

materially as per principles of Iyers technique.

 

----------

For members : calculation of yogi planet as per Iyer's method is simple and is

present in JHora SW.

SUM of MOON's + SUN's  longitude + 93 degree 20 min. The 'nakshatra lord' at

this point of the 'sum' is Yogi planet.

Avayogi planet is 6th planet from yogi planet as per vimsottari dasa lordship.

 

------------ -

Thankyou Gopiji, just allowing us to analyse\discuss you chart and to learn.

 

Best Wishes,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Vijay Ji, Sunil Ji,

>

> Shri Gopiji's chart is one of the tricky ones I have seen. A careful

observation will show that there is no strong connection between kendras and

trines. Hence while there are yogas plentiful in the chart, it will be very

difficult to materialize. The most important trine lord, the ascendant, is

unfortunately debilitated in Navamsha. Interestingly Me is also the 10L and the

only kendra lord with a connection with a trine (placed in the Asc). Hence his

deb is doubly unfortunate (for material benefits).

>

> Regarding Saturn being Vargottama and Exalted, it is a double edged sword.

Using Iyer's principles for prosepeirty, Rahu is the avayogi planet. That should

be as weak as possible for good prosperity. But he is instead placed in the 5H,

in a friend's sign and his dispositor Saturn is Vargottam and Exalted, and

aspected by Jupiter. Rahu is also unaspected by any malefic. So the Avayogi,

the graha of Penury, is strong. This makes it very difficult money wise in Rahu

dasha. However, I think Rahu-Ketu starting at the end of this year, should be

slightly better, since Ketu is the Yogi planet and is in a reasonably good

shape.

>

> However, this chart has great spiritual possibilities that has been dicussed

in detail earlier.

>  

> Regards,

>  -Manoj

>  

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> vijay.goel goyalvj

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Friday, September 18, 2009 9:30:38 AM

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga

>

>  

> Dear Gopiji,

>

> Nice chart indeed.

>

> Just as a caution, i want to say :

>

> Vimsottari Dasa:

>

> Rah MD: 1999-04-24 - 2017-04-23

> Ven AD: 2010-11-10 - 2013-11-10

>

> The antar dasa of venus in mahadasa rahu will be very poor in health

> terms. In this time taking care of health is seriously needed.

> Even i feel that taking care of eyes should be utmost needed.

>

> Reasons : 12th lord sun in lagna , lagna under papa kartari yoga,

> mercury is debilitated in navamsha, second from moon has rahu.

>

> Overall chart is good with exalted vargottama 5L saturn and other

> factors as explained by shri Sunil nair ji.

>

> Thankyou,

> Regards,

> Vijay Goel

> Jaipur.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, " gopalakrishna "

> gopi_b927@ ..> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sunilnair ji,

> > thankyou very much for the greetings.I will cherish them.Please dont

> > bother about BELATED and i will get back to you soon......

> > Love and regards,

> > gopi.

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " astro_tellerkerala "

> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Gopikrishanji

> > >

> > > thanks for ur data

> > >

> > > belated happy Birthday wishes ,i got busy and hence just now only

> cud

> > > able to see ur chart

> > >

> > > u got a beautiful suryaditya yoga called Nipuna Yoga in lagna /also

> a

> > > bhadra yoga by mercury being in kendra to moon and lagna .

> > >

> > > I dont Know ur educational qualifications

> > >

> > > ur rahu -merc is going on and it is in sun 's Nakshtra

> > > and which is participating in the above said yoga

> > > rahu in 5th house of higher learning ,astrology also will come under

> > > that catagary

> > >

> > > can u tell me abt ur profession /invesmnt habbits / education /ur

> > study

> > > of astrology /brothers and sisters etc etc

> > >

> > > if u r reluctant to discuss in open pls sent it to my personal mail

> .

> > >

> > > rgrds sunil nair

> > >

> > > note -merc and nodes r in pushkaramsa .it says pushkarmsa will

> increse

> > > the significations of the said planets in dasa and general .

> > >

> > > There is a Kumbha mela of transits going to happen in ur lagna esp

> frm

> > > 18th nite as sun and moon will join sat and merc ,watch out this

> > period

> > > and sanies transit

> > >

> > > How was ur sun period ( mahadasa ) ??

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " gopi_b927 "

> > > gopi_b927@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,

> > > > my chart was discussed i think in some other context.Anyway i am

> > > posting

> > > > again here below.

> > > > D.O.B....... 17-9-1953

> > > > P.O.B....... .GUNTUR

> > > > T.O.B......6. 35.35Hrs

> > > >

> > > > Love and regards,

> > > > gopi.

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,

> > " astro_tellerkerala "

> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Gopalkrishnan ji

> > > > >

> > > > > thansk for ur post

> > > > >

> > > > > can u post u r data in grp if not already discussed

> > > > >

> > > > > rgrds sunil nair

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " gopalakrishna "

> > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,

> > > > > > yes,i also have the same querry and also the same mer in

> > > question.Me

> > > > > is

> > > > > > my lagna and 10th lord exal in lagna(ofcourse in PKY) AND

> > > > DEBILITATED

> > > > > in

> > > > > > lagna in D9.

> > > > > > But Mer always gave mixed results but majority of them are

> > > > > positive.One

> > > > > > of them is i joined this group in my Rahu-Mer period!!!... .

> > > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > > gopi.

> > > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Sunil Ji,

 

Great discussion and a very nice and balanced approach. Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge.

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 1:13:24 AM Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga

Dear Manoj JI and others along with manoj ji s beautiful observations let me add few more points .( i dont Know also who corrected the birth time upto seconds as we vedic astrologers need the reported time than some one correct it according to the system they follows ) most of the important planets and Major dasa Lords since birth is in rasi santhi or not functional benefics ,even Birth was ON samkranthi day which can giv sun in rasi santhi status ) along with a strong PKY in lagna .even if u see Birth dasa ( Dasa at birth-To get a vague idea of journey of this soul at this birth tru progressing dasa s by Noting dasaantara at birth ) is ketu ( with a atibalya venus and 9th L of the chart ) and sub period is JUP ( who again in vridha avasta and 7th and 4th L and who also participated in Gaja kesari Yoga ) and then merc pratyantara (

lagna Lord frm lagna and 7th L frm moon sign it is debilated in navamsa and hence a sort of raja Bhanga yoga too materialisticaly ) Born in Prabhatha sandya ( again a santhi ),junction between nite and day .Like Manoj ji said the antiYogi grp of planets ( sun,mer ,rahu ) is having full influence in lagna .and lagan Lord is weak and the yoga giving planets in chart is also weak in one way or other ( being in santhi or debilated )even the GK ( gaja kesari Yoga ) If u see frm moon who is also strong the picture is More clear ,along with Lord of 7th and 10th In PKY and karaka in 8th house and 5th and 9th connections repeats there and it may b cause of spiritual aspirations even the aspect of 8th and lagna lord ( moon and jup ) may show this hidden tensenciesAs a karaka venus and its Kendras afflicted May b the reason behind No marriage and further adding fuel to fire ( here spirituality ) this is

some quick notes frm my side sani aspects a karaka and karak with rahu-ketu axis is some sort of karmic trigger which can work in unexpected ways and here it is the karaka for Money ( as Natural 2nd Lord ) and marriage is afflicted .Sani also 5th L and venus is 9th L and hence it is doubly confirming it ,the nature of events that may happen but sure i agree one Look the chart may b decieving and this is a chart which can b unlocked ( if no events r known prior to astrologer ) only by highly spiritual serious satwik astrologers rgrds sunil nair ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Vijay Ji, Sunil Ji,> > Shri Gopiji's chart is one of the tricky ones I have seen. A careful observation will show that there is no strong

connection between kendras and trines. Hence while there are yogas plentiful in the chart, it will be very difficult to materialize. The most important trine lord, the ascendant, is unfortunately debilitated in Navamsha. Interestingly Me is also the 10L and the only kendra lord with a connection with a trine (placed in the Asc). Hence his deb is doubly unfortunate (for material benefits).> > Regarding Saturn being Vargottama and Exalted, it is a double edged sword. Using Iyer's principles for prosepeirty, Rahu is the avayogi planet. That should be as weak as possible for good prosperity. But he is instead placed in the 5H, in a friend's sign and his dispositor Saturn is Vargottam and Exalted, and aspected by Jupiter. Rahu is also unaspected by any malefic. So the Avayogi, the graha of Penury, is strong. This makes it very difficult money wise in Rahu dasha. However, I think Rahu-Ketu

starting at the end of this year, should be slightly better, since Ketu is the Yogi planet and is in a reasonably good shape.> > However, this chart has great spiritual possibilities that has been dicussed in detail earlier.> > Regards,> -Manoj> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> vijay.goel goyalvj ancient_indian_ astrology> Friday, September 18, 2009 9:30:38 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga> > > Dear Gopiji,> > Nice chart indeed.> > Just as a caution, i want to say :> > Vimsottari Dasa:> > Rah MD: 1999-04-24 - 2017-04-23> Ven AD: 2010-11-10 - 2013-11-10> > The antar dasa of venus in mahadasa rahu will be very poor in health>

terms. In this time taking care of health is seriously needed.> Even i feel that taking care of eyes should be utmost needed.> > Reasons : 12th lord sun in lagna , lagna under papa kartari yoga,> mercury is debilitated in navamsha, second from moon has rahu.> > Overall chart is good with exalted vargottama 5L saturn and other> factors as explained by shri Sunil nair ji.> > Thankyou,> Regards,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> gopi_b927@ ..> wrote:> >> > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > thankyou very much for the greetings.I will cherish them.Please dont> > bother about BELATED and i will get back to you soon......> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "astro_tellerkerala "> >

astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Gopikrishanji> > >> > > thanks for ur data> > >> > > belated happy Birthday wishes ,i got busy and hence just now only> cud> > > able to see ur chart> > >> > > u got a beautiful suryaditya yoga called Nipuna Yoga in lagna /also> a> > > bhadra yoga by mercury being in kendra to moon and lagna .> > >> > > I dont Know ur educational qualifications> > >> > > ur rahu -merc is going on and it is in sun 's Nakshtra> > > and which is participating in the above said yoga> > > rahu in 5th house of higher learning ,astrology also will come under> > > that catagary> > >> > > can u tell me abt ur profession /invesmnt habbits / education /ur>

> study> > > of astrology /brothers and sisters etc etc> > >> > > if u r reluctant to discuss in open pls sent it to my personal mail> .> > >> > > rgrds sunil nair> > >> > > note -merc and nodes r in pushkaramsa .it says pushkarmsa will> increse> > > the significations of the said planets in dasa and general .> > >> > > There is a Kumbha mela of transits going to happen in ur lagna esp> frm> > > 18th nite as sun and moon will join sat and merc ,watch out this> > period> > > and sanies transit> > >> > > How was ur sun period ( mahadasa ) ??> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopi_b927"> > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sunilnair

ji,> > > > my chart was discussed i think in some other context.Anyway i am> > > posting> > > > again here below.> > > > D.O.B....... 17-9-1953> > > > P.O.B....... .GUNTUR> > > > T.O.B......6. 35.35Hrs> > > >> > > > Love and regards,> > > > gopi.> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > "astro_tellerkerala "> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Gopalkrishnan ji> > > > >> > > > > thansk for ur post> > > > >> > > > > can u post u r data in grp if not already discussed> > > > >> > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > >> > > > >> > > >

>> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > > > > yes,i also have the same querry and also the same mer in> > > question.Me> > > > > is> > > > > > my lagna and 10th lord exal in lagna(ofcourse in PKY) AND> > > > DEBILITATED> > > > > in> > > > > > lagna in D9.> > > > > > But Mer always gave mixed results but majority of them are> > > > > positive.One> > > > > > of them is i joined this group in my Rahu-Mer period!!!... .> > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > gopi.> > > > >> > >>

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Dear manoj Ji many thanks for encouraging words also i would like to add one more point here the suryaditya yoga in 10th frm moon sign is a sort of dharma -karmadipathi yoga too ( since the karma Lord is debilated in navamsa and dharma Lord is in santhi it is a sort of real dharma and karma yoga than other sort of materialistic yoga s ) moon aspected By sani ( a sort of Punarpho dosha ) Dasa of rahu is in 2nd frm Moon and sani is in 2nd House frm lagna so rahu dasa shud b careful abt health matters tho jupiter in kendra frm Moon and lagna is a saving grace even it is a devine blessing i will say ( as it may giv a sort of Purity in actions and missions as jup is placed in karma bhava too ) again aspecting the 2nd house and sani in it too rgrds sunil nair Dear Gopi Ji can u tell me abt food u like ?being a brahmin at birth No doubt u r vegetarian what i a asking is the food bhava ( 2nd House ) and sani in it and at times this Kind of ppl may like oily items ,sour tasting items ,which contains dal item etc ,also at time more into Mouna vrat and even dont mind for going fasting .but aspected by jup also and he is also sweet karaka so pls guide me here . , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:>> Dear Sunil Ji,> > Great discussion and a very nice and balanced approach. Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge.> > Regards,> -Manoj> > > > > > ________________________________> astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala > Saturday, September 19, 2009 1:13:24 AM> Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga> > > > Dear Manoj JI and others> > along with manoj ji s beautiful observations > > let me add few more points .( i dont Know also who corrected the birth time upto seconds as we vedic astrologers need the reported time than some one correct it according to the system they follows ) > > most of the important planets and Major dasa Lords since birth is in rasi santhi or not functional benefics ,even Birth was ON samkranthi day which can giv sun in rasi santhi status ) along with a strong PKY in lagna .> > even if u see Birth dasa ( Dasa at birth-To get a vague idea of journey of this soul at this birth tru progressing dasa s by Noting dasaantara at birth ) is ketu ( with a atibalya venus and 9th L of the chart ) and sub period is JUP ( who again in vridha avasta and 7th and 4th L and who also participated in Gaja kesari Yoga ) and then merc pratyantara ( lagna Lord frm lagna and 7th L frm moon sign it is debilated in navamsa and hence a sort of raja Bhanga yoga too materialisticaly ) > > Born in Prabhatha sandya ( again a santhi ),junction between nite and day .> > Like Manoj ji said the antiYogi grp of planets ( sun,mer ,rahu ) is having full influence in lagna .> and lagan Lord is weak and the yoga giving planets in chart is also weak in one way or other ( being in santhi or debilated )> > even the GK ( gaja kesari Yoga ) > If u see frm moon who is also strong the picture is More clear ,along with Lord of 7th and 10th In PKY and karaka in 8th house and 5th and 9th connections repeats there and it may b cause of spiritual aspirations > > even the aspect of 8th and lagna lord ( moon and jup ) may show this hidden tensencies> > As a karaka venus and its Kendras afflicted May b the reason behind No marriage and further adding fuel to fire ( here spirituality ) > > this is some quick notes frm my side > > sani aspects a karaka and karak with rahu-ketu axis is some sort of karmic trigger which can work in unexpected ways and here it is the karaka for Money ( as Natural 2nd Lord ) and marriage is afflicted .Sani also 5th L and venus is 9th L and hence it is doubly confirming it ,the nature of events that may happen > > but sure i agree one Look the chart may b decieving and this is a chart which can b unlocked ( if no events r known prior to astrologer ) only by highly spiritual serious satwik astrologers > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Vijay Ji, Sunil Ji,> > > > Shri Gopiji's chart is one of the tricky ones I have seen. A careful observation will show that there is no strong connection between kendras and trines. Hence while there are yogas plentiful in the chart, it will be very difficult to materialize. The most important trine lord, the ascendant, is unfortunately debilitated in Navamsha. Interestingly Me is also the 10L and the only kendra lord with a connection with a trine (placed in the Asc). Hence his deb is doubly unfortunate (for material benefits).> > > > Regarding Saturn being Vargottama and Exalted, it is a double edged sword. Using Iyer's principles for prosepeirty, Rahu is the avayogi planet. That should be as weak as possible for good prosperity. But he is instead placed in the 5H, in a friend's sign and his dispositor Saturn is Vargottam and Exalted, and aspected by Jupiter. Rahu is also unaspected by any malefic. So the Avayogi, the graha of Penury, is strong. This makes it very difficult money wise in Rahu dasha. However, I think Rahu-Ketu starting at the end of this year, should be slightly better, since Ketu is the Yogi planet and is in a reasonably good shape.> > > > However, this chart has great spiritual possibilities that has been dicussed in detail earlier.> > > > Regards,> > -Manoj> > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > vijay.goel goyalvj@> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Friday, September 18, 2009 9:30:38 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga> > > > > > Dear Gopiji,> > > > Nice chart indeed.> > > > Just as a caution, i want to say :> > > > Vimsottari Dasa:> > > > Rah MD: 1999-04-24 - 2017-04-23> > Ven AD: 2010-11-10 - 2013-11-10> > > > The antar dasa of venus in mahadasa rahu will be very poor in health> > terms. In this time taking care of health is seriously needed.> > Even i feel that taking care of eyes should be utmost needed.> > > > Reasons : 12th lord sun in lagna , lagna under papa kartari yoga,> > mercury is debilitated in navamsha, second from moon has rahu.> > > > Overall chart is good with exalted vargottama 5L saturn and other> > factors as explained by shri Sunil nair ji.> > > > Thankyou,> > Regards,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur.> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> > gopi_b927@ ..> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > thankyou very much for the greetings.I will cherish them.Please dont> > > bother about BELATED and i will get back to you soon......> > > Love and regards,> > > gopi.> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "astro_tellerkerala "> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Gopikrishanji> > > >> > > > thanks for ur data> > > >> > > > belated happy Birthday wishes ,i got busy and hence just now only> > cud> > > > able to see ur chart> > > >> > > > u got a beautiful suryaditya yoga called Nipuna Yoga in lagna /also> > a> > > > bhadra yoga by mercury being in kendra to moon and lagna .> > > >> > > > I dont Know ur educational qualifications> > > >> > > > ur rahu -merc is going on and it is in sun 's Nakshtra> > > > and which is participating in the above said yoga> > > > rahu in 5th house of higher learning ,astrology also will come under> > > > that catagary> > > >> > > > can u tell me abt ur profession /invesmnt habbits / education /ur> > > study> > > > of astrology /brothers and sisters etc etc> > > >> > > > if u r reluctant to discuss in open pls sent it to my personal mail> > .> > > >> > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > >> > > > note -merc and nodes r in pushkaramsa .it says pushkarmsa will> > increse> > > > the significations of the said planets in dasa and general .> > > >> > > > There is a Kumbha mela of transits going to happen in ur lagna esp> > frm> > > > 18th nite as sun and moon will join sat and merc ,watch out this> > > period> > > > and sanies transit> > > >> > > > How was ur sun period ( mahadasa ) ??> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopi_b927"> > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > > > my chart was discussed i think in some other context.Anyway i am> > > > posting> > > > > again here below.> > > > > D.O.B....... 17-9-1953> > > > > P.O.B....... .GUNTUR> > > > > T.O.B......6. 35.35Hrs> > > > >> > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > gopi.> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > "astro_tellerkerala "> > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Gopalkrishnan ji> > > > > >> > > > > > thansk for ur post> > > > > >> > > > > > can u post u r data in grp if not already discussed> > > > > >> > > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> > > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > > > > > yes,i also have the same querry and also the same mer in> > > > question.Me> > > > > > is> > > > > > > my lagna and 10th lord exal in lagna(ofcourse in PKY) AND> > > > > DEBILITATED> > > > > > in> > > > > > > lagna in D9.> > > > > > > But Mer always gave mixed results but majority of them are> > > > > > positive.One> > > > > > > of them is i joined this group in my Rahu-Mer period!!!... .> > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear sunilnairji,//moon aspected By sani ( a sort of Punarpho dosha )//moon is also aspd by jup aswell alongwith sani i consider a real blessing specially in my sadhana..regarding food habits most of what you have written are corect and jup being karaka4sweet already gave me diabetes ithink in mo-jup.yes i like silence and i dont like talking much even to my mother and i used to practice silence for days in my 20's.2nd house also being thoght and speach i almost never lie and dont have many thoughts also except a few needy ones.But now you make me talk though silently.....specially i dont like talking about my so called good qualities.yes i used to fast but not now as a diabetic.thanks again for all your time and effort.Love and regards,gopi. , "astro_tellerkerala" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > Dear manoj Ji> > many thanks for encouraging words> > also i would like to add one more point here> > the suryaditya yoga in 10th frm moon sign is a sort of dharma> -karmadipathi yoga too ( since the karma Lord is debilated in navamsa> and dharma Lord is in santhi it is a sort of real dharma and karma yoga> than other sort of materialistic yoga s )> > moon aspected By sani ( a sort of Punarpho dosha )> > Dasa of rahu is in 2nd frm Moon and sani is in 2nd House frm lagna> > so rahu dasa shud b careful abt health matters tho jupiter in kendra frm> Moon and lagna is a saving grace> > even it is a devine blessing i will say ( as it may giv a sort of Purity> in actions and missions as jup is placed in karma bhava too ) again> aspecting the 2nd house and sani in it too> > rgrds sunil nair> > Dear Gopi Ji can u tell me abt food u like ?> > being a brahmin at birth No doubt u r vegetarian> > what i a asking is the food bhava ( 2nd House ) and sani in it and at> times this Kind of ppl may like oily items ,sour tasting items ,which> contains dal item etc ,also at time more into Mouna vrat and even dont> mind for going fasting .but aspected bymoon aspected By sani ( a sort of Punarpho dosha )> > so pls guide me here .> > > , Manoj Chandran> chandran_manoj@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil Ji,> >> > Great discussion and a very nice and balanced approach. Thank you for> sharing your experience and knowledge.> >> > Regards,> > -Manoj> >> >> >> >> >> > ________________________________> > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@> > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 1:13:24 AM> > Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga> >> >> >> > Dear Manoj JI and others> >> > along with manoj ji s beautiful observations> >> > let me add few more points .( i dont Know also who corrected the> birth time upto seconds as we vedic astrologers need the reported time> than some one correct it according to the system they follows )> >> > most of the important planets and Major dasa Lords since birth is in> rasi santhi or not functional benefics ,even Birth was ON samkranthi day> which can giv sun in rasi santhi status ) along with a strong PKY in> lagna .> >> > even if u see Birth dasa ( Dasa at birth-To get a vague idea of> journey of this soul at this birth tru progressing dasa s by Noting> dasaantara at birth ) is ketu ( with a atibalya venus and 9th L of the> chart ) and sub period is JUP ( who again in vridha avasta and 7th and> 4th L and who also participated in Gaja kesari Yoga ) and then merc> pratyantara ( lagna Lord frm lagna and 7th L frm moon sign it is> debilated in navamsa and hence a sort of raja Bhanga yoga too> materialisticaly )> >> > Born in Prabhatha sandya ( again a santhi ),junction between nite and> day .> >> > Like Manoj ji said the antiYogi grp of planets ( sun,mer ,rahu ) is> having full influence in lagna .> > and lagan Lord is weak and the yoga giving planets in chart is also> weak in one way or other ( being in santhi or debilated )> >> > even the GK ( gaja kesari Yoga )> > If u see frm moon who is also strong the picture is More clear ,along> with Lord of 7th and 10th In PKY and karaka in 8th house and 5th and 9th> connections repeats there and it may b cause of spiritual aspirations> >> > even the aspect of 8th and lagna lord ( moon and jup ) may show this> hidden tensencies> >> > As a karaka venus and its Kendras afflicted May b the reason behind No> marriage and further adding fuel to fire ( here spirituality )> >> > this is some quick notes frm my side> >> > sani aspects a karaka and karak with rahu-ketu axis is some sort of> karmic trigger which can work in unexpected ways and here it is the> karaka for Money ( as Natural 2nd Lord ) and marriage is afflicted .Sani> also 5th L and venus is 9th L and hence it is doubly confirming it ,the> nature of events that may happen> >> > but sure i agree one Look the chart may b decieving and this is a> chart which can b unlocked ( if no events r known prior to astrologer )> only by highly spiritual serious satwik astrologers> >> > rgrds sunil nair> >> >> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran> <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Vijay Ji, Sunil Ji,> > >> > > Shri Gopiji's chart is one of the tricky ones I have seen. A careful> observation will show that there is no strong connection between kendras> and trines. Hence while there are yogas plentiful in the chart, it will> be very difficult to materialize. The most important trine lord, the> ascendant, is unfortunately debilitated in Navamsha. Interestingly Me is> also the 10L and the only kendra lord with a connection with a trine> (placed in the Asc). Hence his deb is doubly unfortunate (for material> benefits).> > >> > > Regarding Saturn being Vargottama and Exalted, it is a double edged> sword. Using Iyer's principles for prosepeirty, Rahu is the avayogi> planet. That should be as weak as possible for good prosperity. But he> is instead placed in the 5H, in a friend's sign and his dispositor> Saturn is Vargottam and Exalted, and aspected by Jupiter. Rahu is also> unaspected by any malefic. So the Avayogi, the graha of Penury, is> strong. This makes it very difficult money wise in Rahu dasha. However,> I think Rahu-Ketu starting at the end of this year, should be slightly> better, since Ketu is the Yogi planet and is in a reasonably good shape.> > >> > > However, this chart has great spiritual possibilities that has been> dicussed in detail earlier.> > >> > > Regards,> > > -Manoj> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > vijay.goel goyalvj@> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Friday, September 18, 2009 9:30:38 AM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga> > >> > >> > > Dear Gopiji,> > >> > > Nice chart indeed.> > >> > > Just as a caution, i want to say :> > >> > > Vimsottari Dasa:> > >> > > Rah MD: 1999-04-24 - 2017-04-23> > > Ven AD: 2010-11-10 - 2013-11-10> > >> > > The antar dasa of venus in mahadasa rahu will be very poor in health> > > terms. In this time taking care of health is seriously needed.> > > Even i feel that taking care of eyes should be utmost needed.> > >> > > Reasons : 12th lord sun in lagna , lagna under papa kartari yoga,> > > mercury is debilitated in navamsha, second from moon has rahu.> > >> > > Overall chart is good with exalted vargottama 5L saturn and other> > > factors as explained by shri Sunil nair ji.> > >> > > Thankyou,> > > Regards,> > > Vijay Goel> > > Jaipur.> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> > > gopi_b927@ ..> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > > thankyou very much for the greetings.I will cherish them.Please> dont> > > > bother about BELATED and i will get back to you soon......> > > > Love and regards,> > > > gopi.> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> "astro_tellerkerala "> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Gopikrishanji> > > > >> > > > > thanks for ur data> > > > >> > > > > belated happy Birthday wishes ,i got busy and hence just now> only> > > cud> > > > > able to see ur chart> > > > >> > > > > u got a beautiful suryaditya yoga called Nipuna Yoga in lagna> /also> > > a> > > > > bhadra yoga by mercury being in kendra to moon and lagna .> > > > >> > > > > I dont Know ur educational qualifications> > > > >> > > > > ur rahu -merc is going on and it is in sun 's Nakshtra> > > > > and which is participating in the above said yoga> > > > > rahu in 5th house of higher learning ,astrology also will come> under> > > > > that catagary> > > > >> > > > > can u tell me abt ur profession /invesmnt habbits / education> /ur> > > > study> > > > > of astrology /brothers and sisters etc etc> > > > >> > > > > if u r reluctant to discuss in open pls sent it to my personal> mail> > > .> > > > >> > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > >> > > > > note -merc and nodes r in pushkaramsa .it says pushkarmsa will> > > increse> > > > > the significations of the said planets in dasa and general .> > > > >> > > > > There is a Kumbha mela of transits going to happen in ur lagna> esp> > > frm> > > > > 18th nite as sun and moon will join sat and merc ,watch out this> > > > period> > > > > and sanies transit> > > > >> > > > > How was ur sun period ( mahadasa ) ??> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopi_b927"> > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > > > > my chart was discussed i think in some other context.Anyway i> am> > > > > posting> > > > > > again here below.> > > > > > D.O.B....... 17-9-1953> > > > > > P.O.B....... .GUNTUR> > > > > > T.O.B......6. 35.35Hrs> > > > > >> > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > > "astro_tellerkerala "> > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Gopalkrishnan ji> > > > > > >> > > > > > > thansk for ur post> > > > > > >> > > > > > > can u post u r data in grp if not already discussed> > > > > > >> > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> "gopalakrishna"> > > > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > > > > > > yes,i also have the same querry and also the same mer in> > > > > question.Me> > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > my lagna and 10th lord exal in lagna(ofcourse in PKY) AND> > > > > > DEBILITATED> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > lagna in D9.> > > > > > > > But Mer always gave mixed results but majority of them are> > > > > > > positive.One> > > > > > > > of them is i joined this group in my Rahu-Mer period!!!...> .> > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Gopi ji ha ha i can understand the situation u r going tru but we want true feed back and this is a discussion forum so i am posting many things which other wise i wud hav posted in prvt with other ppl so i take this as a chance for learning and even a sort of directing the discussion s in right direction what ever way i find it is true Now diabetics combination I observed many times Jup and venus some way connected leads to diabetics since i am not much into medical astrology part of reserch i dont know much abt it once sreenadh ji was mentioning a combo and we hav find it verbatim in swami vivekanada chart ( tho the dictum was misleading but we tried to guess it as it may b corrupted in Long time ) in ur case Jup has amsa in venusian sign and may b other memebrs may take up and expand this Thanks for other feed backs rgrds sunil nair , "gopalakrishna" <gopi_b927 wrote:>> Dear sunilnairji,> //moon aspected By sani ( a sort of Punarpho dosha )//> > moon is also aspd by jup aswell alongwith sani i consider a real> blessing specially in my sadhana..> regarding food habits most of what you have written are corect and jup> being karaka4sweet already gave me diabetes ithink in mo-jup.> yes i like silence and i dont like talking much even to my mother and i> used to practice silence for days in my 20's.2nd house also being thoght> and speach i almost never lie and dont have many thoughts also except a> few needy ones.But now you make me talk though silently.....> specially i dont like talking about my so called good qualities.> > yes i used to fast but not now as a diabetic.> > thanks again for all your time and effort.> Love and regards,> gopi.> > > > , "astro_tellerkerala"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> > Dear manoj Ji> >> > many thanks for encouraging words> >> > also i would like to add one more point here> >> > the suryaditya yoga in 10th frm moon sign is a sort of dharma> > -karmadipathi yoga too ( since the karma Lord is debilated in navamsa> > and dharma Lord is in santhi it is a sort of real dharma and karma> yoga> > than other sort of materialistic yoga s )> >> > moon aspected By sani ( a sort of Punarpho dosha )> >> > Dasa of rahu is in 2nd frm Moon and sani is in 2nd House frm lagna> >> > so rahu dasa shud b careful abt health matters tho jupiter in kendra> frm> > Moon and lagna is a saving grace> >> > even it is a devine blessing i will say ( as it may giv a sort of> Purity> > in actions and missions as jup is placed in karma bhava too ) again> > aspecting the 2nd house and sani in it too> >> > rgrds sunil nair> >> > Dear Gopi Ji can u tell me abt food u like ?> >> > being a brahmin at birth No doubt u r vegetarian> >> > what i a asking is the food bhava ( 2nd House ) and sani in it and at> > times this Kind of ppl may like oily items ,sour tasting items ,which> > contains dal item etc ,also at time more into Mouna vrat and even> dont> > mind for going fasting .but aspected bymoon aspected By sani ( a sort> of Punarpho dosha )> >> > so pls guide me here .> >> >> > , Manoj Chandran> > chandran_manoj@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sunil Ji,> > >> > > Great discussion and a very nice and balanced approach. Thank you> for> > sharing your experience and knowledge.> > >> > > Regards,> > > -Manoj> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ________________________________> > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@> > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 1:13:24 AM> > > Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Manoj JI and others> > >> > > along with manoj ji s beautiful observations> > >> > > let me add few more points .( i dont Know also who corrected the> > birth time upto seconds as we vedic astrologers need the reported time> > than some one correct it according to the system they follows )> > >> > > most of the important planets and Major dasa Lords since birth is in> > rasi santhi or not functional benefics ,even Birth was ON samkranthi> day> > which can giv sun in rasi santhi status ) along with a strong PKY in> > lagna .> > >> > > even if u see Birth dasa ( Dasa at birth-To get a vague idea of> > journey of this soul at this birth tru progressing dasa s by Noting> > dasaantara at birth ) is ketu ( with a atibalya venus and 9th L of> the> > chart ) and sub period is JUP ( who again in vridha avasta and 7th and> > 4th L and who also participated in Gaja kesari Yoga ) and then merc> > pratyantara ( lagna Lord frm lagna and 7th L frm moon sign it is> > debilated in navamsa and hence a sort of raja Bhanga yoga too> > materialisticaly )> > >> > > Born in Prabhatha sandya ( again a santhi ),junction between nite> and> > day .> > >> > > Like Manoj ji said the antiYogi grp of planets ( sun,mer ,rahu ) is> > having full influence in lagna .> > > and lagan Lord is weak and the yoga giving planets in chart is also> > weak in one way or other ( being in santhi or debilated )> > >> > > even the GK ( gaja kesari Yoga )> > > If u see frm moon who is also strong the picture is More clear> ,along> > with Lord of 7th and 10th In PKY and karaka in 8th house and 5th and> 9th> > connections repeats there and it may b cause of spiritual aspirations> > >> > > even the aspect of 8th and lagna lord ( moon and jup ) may show this> > hidden tensencies> > >> > > As a karaka venus and its Kendras afflicted May b the reason behind> No> > marriage and further adding fuel to fire ( here spirituality )> > >> > > this is some quick notes frm my side> > >> > > sani aspects a karaka and karak with rahu-ketu axis is some sort of> > karmic trigger which can work in unexpected ways and here it is the> > karaka for Money ( as Natural 2nd Lord ) and marriage is afflicted> .Sani> > also 5th L and venus is 9th L and hence it is doubly confirming it> ,the> > nature of events that may happen> > >> > > but sure i agree one Look the chart may b decieving and this is a> > chart which can b unlocked ( if no events r known prior to astrologer> )> > only by highly spiritual serious satwik astrologers> > >> > > rgrds sunil nair> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran> > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Vijay Ji, Sunil Ji,> > > >> > > > Shri Gopiji's chart is one of the tricky ones I have seen. A> careful> > observation will show that there is no strong connection between> kendras> > and trines. Hence while there are yogas plentiful in the chart, it> will> > be very difficult to materialize. The most important trine lord, the> > ascendant, is unfortunately debilitated in Navamsha. Interestingly Me> is> > also the 10L and the only kendra lord with a connection with a trine> > (placed in the Asc). Hence his deb is doubly unfortunate (for material> > benefits).> > > >> > > > Regarding Saturn being Vargottama and Exalted, it is a double> edged> > sword. Using Iyer's principles for prosepeirty, Rahu is the avayogi> > planet. That should be as weak as possible for good prosperity. But he> > is instead placed in the 5H, in a friend's sign and his dispositor> > Saturn is Vargottam and Exalted, and aspected by Jupiter. Rahu is also> > unaspected by any malefic. So the Avayogi, the graha of Penury, is> > strong. This makes it very difficult money wise in Rahu dasha.> However,> > I think Rahu-Ketu starting at the end of this year, should be slightly> > better, since Ketu is the Yogi planet and is in a reasonably good> shape.> > > >> > > > However, this chart has great spiritual possibilities that has> been> > dicussed in detail earlier.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > -Manoj> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > vijay.goel goyalvj@> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Friday, September 18, 2009 9:30:38 AM> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Gopiji,> > > >> > > > Nice chart indeed.> > > >> > > > Just as a caution, i want to say :> > > >> > > > Vimsottari Dasa:> > > >> > > > Rah MD: 1999-04-24 - 2017-04-23> > > > Ven AD: 2010-11-10 - 2013-11-10> > > >> > > > The antar dasa of venus in mahadasa rahu will be very poor in> health> > > > terms. In this time taking care of health is seriously needed.> > > > Even i feel that taking care of eyes should be utmost needed.> > > >> > > > Reasons : 12th lord sun in lagna , lagna under papa kartari yoga,> > > > mercury is debilitated in navamsha, second from moon has rahu.> > > >> > > > Overall chart is good with exalted vargottama 5L saturn and other> > > > factors as explained by shri Sunil nair ji.> > > >> > > > Thankyou,> > > > Regards,> > > > Vijay Goel> > > > Jaipur.> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> "gopalakrishna"> > > > gopi_b927@ ..> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > > > thankyou very much for the greetings.I will cherish them.Please> > dont> > > > > bother about BELATED and i will get back to you soon......> > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > gopi.> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > "astro_tellerkerala "> > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Gopikrishanji> > > > > >> > > > > > thanks for ur data> > > > > >> > > > > > belated happy Birthday wishes ,i got busy and hence just now> > only> > > > cud> > > > > > able to see ur chart> > > > > >> > > > > > u got a beautiful suryaditya yoga called Nipuna Yoga in lagna> > /also> > > > a> > > > > > bhadra yoga by mercury being in kendra to moon and lagna .> > > > > >> > > > > > I dont Know ur educational qualifications> > > > > >> > > > > > ur rahu -merc is going on and it is in sun 's Nakshtra> > > > > > and which is participating in the above said yoga> > > > > > rahu in 5th house of higher learning ,astrology also will come> > under> > > > > > that catagary> > > > > >> > > > > > can u tell me abt ur profession /invesmnt habbits / education> > /ur> > > > > study> > > > > > of astrology /brothers and sisters etc etc> > > > > >> > > > > > if u r reluctant to discuss in open pls sent it to my personal> > mail> > > > .> > > > > >> > > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > >> > > > > > note -merc and nodes r in pushkaramsa .it says pushkarmsa will> > > > increse> > > > > > the significations of the said planets in dasa and general .> > > > > >> > > > > > There is a Kumbha mela of transits going to happen in ur lagna> > esp> > > > frm> > > > > > 18th nite as sun and moon will join sat and merc ,watch out> this> > > > > period> > > > > > and sanies transit> > > > > >> > > > > > How was ur sun period ( mahadasa ) ??> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> "gopi_b927"> > > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > > > > > my chart was discussed i think in some other context.Anyway> i> > am> > > > > > posting> > > > > > > again here below.> > > > > > > D.O.B....... 17-9-1953> > > > > > > P.O.B....... .GUNTUR> > > > > > > T.O.B......6. 35.35Hrs> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > > > "astro_tellerkerala "> > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Gopalkrishnan ji> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > thansk for ur post> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > can u post u r data in grp if not already discussed> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > "gopalakrishna"> > > > > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > > > > > > > yes,i also have the same querry and also the same mer in> > > > > > question.Me> > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > my lagna and 10th lord exal in lagna(ofcourse in PKY)> AND> > > > > > > DEBILITATED> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > lagna in D9.> > > > > > > > > But Mer always gave mixed results but majority of them> are> > > > > > > > positive.One> > > > > > > > > of them is i joined this group in my Rahu-Mer> period!!!...> > .> > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Sunilnair ji,no problems.You are welcome....Love and regards,gopi. , "astro_tellerkerala" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > Dear Gopi ji> > ha ha> > i can understand the situation u r going tru but we want true feed back> and this is a discussion forum so i am posting many things which other> wise i wud hav posted in prvt with other ppl> > so i take this as a chance for learning and even a sort of directing the> discussion s in right direction what ever way i find it is true> > Now diabetics combination> > I observed many times Jup and venus some way connected leads to> diabetics> since i am not much into medical astrology part of reserch i dont know> much abt it> once sreenadh ji was mentioning a combo and we hav find it verbatim in> swami vivekanada chart ( tho the dictum was misleading but we tried to> guess it as it may b corrupted in Long time )> in ur case Jup has amsa in venusian sign and may b other memebrs may> take up and expand this> > Thanks for other feed backs> > rgrds sunil nair> > , "gopalakrishna"> gopi_b927@ wrote:> >> > Dear sunilnairji,> > //moon aspected By sani ( a sort of Punarpho dosha )//> >> > moon is also aspd by jup aswell alongwith sani i consider a real> > blessing specially in my sadhana..> > regarding food habits most of what you have written are corect and jup> > being karaka4sweet already gave me diabetes ithink in mo-jup.> > yes i like silence and i dont like talking much even to my mother and> i> > used to practice silence for days in my 20's.2nd house also being> thoght> > and speach i almost never lie and dont have many thoughts also except> a> > few needy ones.But now you make me talk though silently.....> > specially i dont like talking about my so called good qualities.> >> > yes i used to fast but not now as a diabetic.> >> > thanks again for all your time and effort.> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> >> >> >> > , "astro_tellerkerala"> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear manoj Ji> > >> > > many thanks for encouraging words> > >> > > also i would like to add one more point here> > >> > > the suryaditya yoga in 10th frm moon sign is a sort of dharma> > > -karmadipathi yoga too ( since the karma Lord is debilated in> navamsa> > > and dharma Lord is in santhi it is a sort of real dharma and karma> > yoga> > > than other sort of materialistic yoga s )> > >> > > moon aspected By sani ( a sort of Punarpho dosha )> > >> > > Dasa of rahu is in 2nd frm Moon and sani is in 2nd House frm lagna> > >> > > so rahu dasa shud b careful abt health matters tho jupiter in kendra> > frm> > > Moon and lagna is a saving grace> > >> > > even it is a devine blessing i will say ( as it may giv a sort of> > Purity> > > in actions and missions as jup is placed in karma bhava too ) again> > > aspecting the 2nd house and sani in it too> > >> > > rgrds sunil nair> > >> > > Dear Gopi Ji can u tell me abt food u like ?> > >> > > being a brahmin at birth No doubt u r vegetarian> > >> > > what i a asking is the food bhava ( 2nd House ) and sani in it and> at> > > times this Kind of ppl may like oily items ,sour tasting items> ,which> > > contains dal item etc ,also at time more into Mouna vrat and even> > dont> > > mind for going fasting .but aspected bymoon aspected By sani ( a> sort> > of Punarpho dosha )> > >> > > so pls guide me here .> > >> > >> > > , Manoj Chandran> > > chandran_manoj@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sunil Ji,> > > >> > > > Great discussion and a very nice and balanced approach. Thank you> > for> > > sharing your experience and knowledge.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > -Manoj> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ________________________________> > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@> > > > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 1:13:24 AM> > > > Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Manoj JI and others> > > >> > > > along with manoj ji s beautiful observations> > > >> > > > let me add few more points .( i dont Know also who corrected the> > > birth time upto seconds as we vedic astrologers need the reported> time> > > than some one correct it according to the system they follows )> > > >> > > > most of the important planets and Major dasa Lords since birth is> in> > > rasi santhi or not functional benefics ,even Birth was ON samkranthi> > day> > > which can giv sun in rasi santhi status ) along with a strong PKY in> > > lagna .> > > >> > > > even if u see Birth dasa ( Dasa at birth-To get a vague idea of> > > journey of this soul at this birth tru progressing dasa s by Noting> > > dasaantara at birth ) is ketu ( with a atibalya venus and 9th L of> > the> > > chart ) and sub period is JUP ( who again in vridha avasta and 7th> and> > > 4th L and who also participated in Gaja kesari Yoga ) and then merc> > > pratyantara ( lagna Lord frm lagna and 7th L frm moon sign it is> > > debilated in navamsa and hence a sort of raja Bhanga yoga too> > > materialisticaly )> > > >> > > > Born in Prabhatha sandya ( again a santhi ),junction between nite> > and> > > day .> > > >> > > > Like Manoj ji said the antiYogi grp of planets ( sun,mer ,rahu )> is> > > having full influence in lagna .> > > > and lagan Lord is weak and the yoga giving planets in chart is> also> > > weak in one way or other ( being in santhi or debilated )> > > >> > > > even the GK ( gaja kesari Yoga )> > > > If u see frm moon who is also strong the picture is More clear> > ,along> > > with Lord of 7th and 10th In PKY and karaka in 8th house and 5th and> > 9th> > > connections repeats there and it may b cause of spiritual> aspirations> > > >> > > > even the aspect of 8th and lagna lord ( moon and jup ) may show> this> > > hidden tensencies> > > >> > > > As a karaka venus and its Kendras afflicted May b the reason> behind> > No> > > marriage and further adding fuel to fire ( here spirituality )> > > >> > > > this is some quick notes frm my side> > > >> > > > sani aspects a karaka and karak with rahu-ketu axis is some sort> of> > > karmic trigger which can work in unexpected ways and here it is the> > > karaka for Money ( as Natural 2nd Lord ) and marriage is afflicted> > .Sani> > > also 5th L and venus is 9th L and hence it is doubly confirming it> > ,the> > > nature of events that may happen> > > >> > > > but sure i agree one Look the chart may b decieving and this is a> > > chart which can b unlocked ( if no events r known prior to> astrologer> > )> > > only by highly spiritual serious satwik astrologers> > > >> > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran> > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Vijay Ji, Sunil Ji,> > > > >> > > > > Shri Gopiji's chart is one of the tricky ones I have seen. A> > careful> > > observation will show that there is no strong connection between> > kendras> > > and trines. Hence while there are yogas plentiful in the chart, it> > will> > > be very difficult to materialize. The most important trine lord, the> > > ascendant, is unfortunately debilitated in Navamsha. Interestingly> Me> > is> > > also the 10L and the only kendra lord with a connection with a trine> > > (placed in the Asc). Hence his deb is doubly unfortunate (for> material> > > benefits).> > > > >> > > > > Regarding Saturn being Vargottama and Exalted, it is a double> > edged> > > sword. Using Iyer's principles for prosepeirty, Rahu is the avayogi> > > planet. That should be as weak as possible for good prosperity. But> he> > > is instead placed in the 5H, in a friend's sign and his dispositor> > > Saturn is Vargottam and Exalted, and aspected by Jupiter. Rahu is> also> > > unaspected by any malefic. So the Avayogi, the graha of Penury, is> > > strong. This makes it very difficult money wise in Rahu dasha.> > However,> > > I think Rahu-Ketu starting at the end of this year, should be> slightly> > > better, since Ketu is the Yogi planet and is in a reasonably good> > shape.> > > > >> > > > > However, this chart has great spiritual possibilities that has> > been> > > dicussed in detail earlier.> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > -Manoj> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > vijay.goel goyalvj@> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Friday, September 18, 2009 9:30:38 AM> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Gopiji,> > > > >> > > > > Nice chart indeed.> > > > >> > > > > Just as a caution, i want to say :> > > > >> > > > > Vimsottari Dasa:> > > > >> > > > > Rah MD: 1999-04-24 - 2017-04-23> > > > > Ven AD: 2010-11-10 - 2013-11-10> > > > >> > > > > The antar dasa of venus in mahadasa rahu will be very poor in> > health> > > > > terms. In this time taking care of health is seriously needed.> > > > > Even i feel that taking care of eyes should be utmost needed.> > > > >> > > > > Reasons : 12th lord sun in lagna , lagna under papa kartari> yoga,> > > > > mercury is debilitated in navamsha, second from moon has rahu.> > > > >> > > > > Overall chart is good with exalted vargottama 5L saturn and> other> > > > > factors as explained by shri Sunil nair ji.> > > > >> > > > > Thankyou,> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > Jaipur.> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > "gopalakrishna"> > > > > gopi_b927@ ..> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > > > > thankyou very much for the greetings.I will cherish> them.Please> > > dont> > > > > > bother about BELATED and i will get back to you soon......> > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > "astro_tellerkerala "> > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Gopikrishanji> > > > > > >> > > > > > > thanks for ur data> > > > > > >> > > > > > > belated happy Birthday wishes ,i got busy and hence just now> > > only> > > > > cud> > > > > > > able to see ur chart> > > > > > >> > > > > > > u got a beautiful suryaditya yoga called Nipuna Yoga in> lagna> > > /also> > > > > a> > > > > > > bhadra yoga by mercury being in kendra to moon and lagna .> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I dont Know ur educational qualifications> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ur rahu -merc is going on and it is in sun 's Nakshtra> > > > > > > and which is participating in the above said yoga> > > > > > > rahu in 5th house of higher learning ,astrology also will> come> > > under> > > > > > > that catagary> > > > > > >> > > > > > > can u tell me abt ur profession /invesmnt habbits /> education> > > /ur> > > > > > study> > > > > > > of astrology /brothers and sisters etc etc> > > > > > >> > > > > > > if u r reluctant to discuss in open pls sent it to my> personal> > > mail> > > > > .> > > > > > >> > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > > >> > > > > > > note -merc and nodes r in pushkaramsa .it says pushkarmsa> will> > > > > increse> > > > > > > the significations of the said planets in dasa and general .> > > > > > >> > > > > > > There is a Kumbha mela of transits going to happen in ur> lagna> > > esp> > > > > frm> > > > > > > 18th nite as sun and moon will join sat and merc ,watch out> > this> > > > > > period> > > > > > > and sanies transit> > > > > > >> > > > > > > How was ur sun period ( mahadasa ) ??> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > "gopi_b927"> > > > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > > > > > > my chart was discussed i think in some other> context.Anyway> > i> > > am> > > > > > > posting> > > > > > > > again here below.> > > > > > > > D.O.B....... 17-9-1953> > > > > > > > P.O.B....... .GUNTUR> > > > > > > > T.O.B......6. 35.35Hrs> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > > > > "astro_tellerkerala "> > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Gopalkrishnan ji> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > thansk for ur post> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > can u post u r data in grp if not already discussed> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > "gopalakrishna"> > > > > > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > > > > > > > > yes,i also have the same querry and also the same mer> in> > > > > > > question.Me> > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > my lagna and 10th lord exal in lagna(ofcourse in PKY)> > AND> > > > > > > > DEBILITATED> > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > lagna in D9.> > > > > > > > > > But Mer always gave mixed results but majority of them> > are> > > > > > > > > positive.One> > > > > > > > > > of them is i joined this group in my Rahu-Mer> > period!!!...> > > .> > > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Sunl ji,

 

In my view diabetic person have bad effects on Venus in their chart but some way

they have strong Jupiter also.

 

Here in Gopi ji's chart 6th L in 2nd in Venus sign Jupiter have 5th sight on 6th

lord and 6th lord have 10th sight on Venus,who with the yukti of ketu. In

Navmansa Venus and Jupietr are inter chang and Venus is Lagna of Navmansa along

with rahu and Neech Lagana Rahi lord Mercury.

 

Jupiter and Saturn have occupied Venus sign in navmansa in 8th.These all badly

effected Venus.

 

It is also a subject for research that unmarried person are mostly Diabetic

because of Venus ?

 

Thanks,

 

M.S.Bohra

 

PS :

AS per KP : Venus is CSL of 1,3,5,7,9 and 11 Cusp where Jupiter is CSL of

2,4,6,8,10 and Saturn is CSL for 12th.

 

There is no lanet in Jupiter and Venus so they are strong significator of their

respective significance.

 

Jupiter in star of Mars l/o 3,8th in 11th so Jupiter is significator of

9,11,3,4,7,8th where venus is significator of 12,11,10,1,2,9.

 

So venus CSL of 7 & 11 is significator of 1,10 and 12 so it is denial for

marriage.

 

More interpretation will be well describe by KP expertise,it is our privilege to

have KP expertise are active in our forum.

 

M.S.Bohra

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

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> > > Dear manoj Ji

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> > butny thanks for encouraging words

> > >

> > > also i would like to add one more point here

> > >

> > > the suryaditya yoga in 10th frm moon sign is a sort of dharma

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> > > Moon and lagna is a saving grace

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> > > even it is a devine blessing i will say ( as it may giv a sort of

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> > > aspecting the 2nd house and sani in it too

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> > > rgrds sunil nair

> > >

> > > Dear Gopi Ji can u tell me abt food u like ?

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> > > being a brahmin at birth No doubt u r vegetarian

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> > > what i a asking is the food bhava ( 2nd House ) and sani in it and

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> > > so pls guide me here .

> > >

> > >

> > > , Manoj Chandran

> > > chandran_manoj@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sunil Ji,

> > > >

> > > > Great discussion and a very nice and balanced approach. Thank you

> > for

> > > sharing your experience and knowledge.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > -Manoj

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@

> > > >

> > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 1:13:24 AM

> > > > Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Manoj JI and others

> > > >

> > > > along with manoj ji s beautiful observations

> > > >

> > > > let me add few more points .( i dont Know also who corrected the

> > > birth time upto seconds as we vedic astrologers need the reported

> time

> > > than some one correct it according to the system they follows )

> > > >

> > > > most of the important planets and Major dasa Lords since birth is

> in

> > > rasi santhi or not functional benefics ,even Birth was ON samkranthi

> > day

> > > which can giv sun in rasi santhi status ) along with a strong PKY in

> > > lagna .

> > > >

> > > > even if u see Birth dasa ( Dasa at birth-To get a vague idea of

> > > journey of this soul at this birth tru progressing dasa s by Noting

> > > dasaantara at birth ) is ketu ( with a atibalya venus and 9th L of

> > the

> > > chart ) and sub period is JUP ( who again in vridha avasta and 7th

> and

> > > 4th L and who also participated in Gaja kesari Yoga ) and then merc

> > > pratyantara ( lagna Lord frm lagna and 7th L frm moon sign it is

> > > debilated in navamsa and hence a sort of raja Bhanga yoga too

> > > materialisticaly )

> > > >

> > > > Born in Prabhatha sandya ( again a santhi ),junction between nite

> > and

> > > day .

> > > >

> > > > Like Manoj ji said the antiYogi grp of planets ( sun,mer ,rahu )

> is

> > > having full influence in lagna .

> > > > and lagan Lord is weak and the yoga giving planets in chart is

> also

> > > weak in one way or other ( being in santhi or debilated )

> > > >

> > > > even the GK ( gaja kesari Yoga )

> > > > If u see frm moon who is also strong the picture is More clear

> > ,along

> > > with Lord of 7th and 10th In PKY and karaka in 8th house and 5th and

> > 9th

> > > connections repeats there and it may b cause of spiritual

> aspirations

> > > >

> > > > even the aspect of 8th and lagna lord ( moon and jup ) may show

> this

> > > hidden tensencies

> > > >

> > > > As a karaka venus and its Kendras afflicted May b the reason

> behind

> > No

> > > marriage and further adding fuel to fire ( here spirituality )

> > > >

> > > > this is some quick notes frm my side

> > > >

> > > > sani aspects a karaka and karak with rahu-ketu axis is some sort

> of

> > > karmic trigger which can work in unexpected ways and here it is the

> > > karaka for Money ( as Natural 2nd Lord ) and marriage is afflicted

> > .Sani

> > > also 5th L and venus is 9th L and hence it is doubly confirming it

> > ,the

> > > nature of events that may happen

> > > >

> > > > but sure i agree one Look the chart may b decieving and this is a

> > > chart which can b unlocked ( if no events r known prior to

> astrologer

> > )

> > > only by highly spiritual serious satwik astrologers

> > > >

> > > > rgrds sunil nair

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

> > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Vijay Ji, Sunil Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Shri Gopiji's chart is one of the tricky ones I have seen. A

> > careful

> > > observation will show that there is no strong connection between

> > kendras

> > > and trines. Hence while there are yogas plentiful in the chart, it

> > will

> > > be very difficult to materialize. The most important trine lord, the

> > > ascendant, is unfortunately debilitated in Navamsha. Interestingly

> Me

> > is

> > > also the 10L and the only kendra lord with a connection with a trine

> > > (placed in the Asc). Hence his deb is doubly unfortunate (for

> material

> > > benefits).

> > > > >

> > > > > Regarding Saturn being Vargottama and Exalted, it is a double

> > edged

> > > sword. Using Iyer's principles for prosepeirty, Rahu is the avayogi

> > > planet. That should be as weak as possible for good prosperity. But

> he

> > > is instead placed in the 5H, in a friend's sign and his dispositor

> > > Saturn is Vargottam and Exalted, and aspected by Jupiter. Rahu is

> also

> > > unaspected by any malefic. So the Avayogi, the graha of Penury, is

> > > strong. This makes it very difficult money wise in Rahu dasha.

> > However,

> > > I think Rahu-Ketu starting at the end of this year, should be

> slightly

> > > better, since Ketu is the Yogi planet and is in a reasonably good

> > shape.

> > > > >

> > > > > However, this chart has great spiritual possibilities that has

> > been

> > > dicussed in detail earlier.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > -Manoj

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > vijay.goel goyalvj@

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > Friday, September 18, 2009 9:30:38 AM

> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Gopiji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Nice chart indeed.

> > > > >

> > > > > Just as a caution, i want to say :

> > > > >

> > > > > Vimsottari Dasa:

> > > > >

> > > > > Rah MD: 1999-04-24 - 2017-04-23

> > > > > Ven AD: 2010-11-10 - 2013-11-10

> > > > >

> > > > > The antar dasa of venus in mahadasa rahu will be very poor in

> > health

> > > > > terms. In this time taking care of health is seriously needed.

> > > > > Even i feel that taking care of eyes should be utmost needed.

> > > > >

> > > > > Reasons : 12th lord sun in lagna , lagna under papa kartari

> yoga,

> > > > > mercury is debilitated in navamsha, second from moon has rahu.

> > > > >

> > > > > Overall chart is good with exalted vargottama 5L saturn and

> other

> > > > > factors as explained by shri Sunil nair ji.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thankyou,

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,

> > " gopalakrishna "

> > > > > gopi_b927@ ..> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,

> > > > > > thankyou very much for the greetings.I will cherish

> them.Please

> > > dont

> > > > > > bother about BELATED and i will get back to you soon......

> > > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > > gopi.

> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,

> > > " astro_tellerkerala "

> > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Gopikrishanji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > thanks for ur data

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > belated happy Birthday wishes ,i got busy and hence just now

> > > only

> > > > > cud

> > > > > > > able to see ur chart

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > u got a beautiful suryaditya yoga called Nipuna Yoga in

> lagna

> > > /also

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > bhadra yoga by mercury being in kendra to moon and lagna .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I dont Know ur educational qualifications

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ur rahu -merc is going on and it is in sun 's Nakshtra

> > > > > > > and which is participating in the above said yoga

> > > > > > > rahu in 5th house of higher learning ,astrology also will

> come

> > > under

> > > > > > > that catagary

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > can u tell me abt ur profession /invesmnt habbits /

> education

> > > /ur

> > > > > > study

> > > > > > > of astrology /brothers and sisters etc etc

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > if u r reluctant to discuss in open pls sent it to my

> personal

> > > mail

> > > > > .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > note -merc and nodes r in pushkaramsa .it says pushkarmsa

> will

> > > > > increse

> > > > > > > the significations of the said planets in dasa and general .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > There is a Kumbha mela of transits going to happen in ur

> lagna

> > > esp

> > > > > frm

> > > > > > > 18th nite as sun and moon will join sat and merc ,watch out

> > this

> > > > > > period

> > > > > > > and sanies transit

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > How was ur sun period ( mahadasa ) ??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,

> > " gopi_b927 "

> > > > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,

> > > > > > > > my chart was discussed i think in some other

> context.Anyway

> > i

> > > am

> > > > > > > posting

> > > > > > > > again here below.

> > > > > > > > D.O.B....... 17-9-1953

> > > > > > > > P.O.B....... .GUNTUR

> > > > > > > > T.O.B......6. 35.35Hrs

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > > > > gopi.

> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,

> > > > > > " astro_tellerkerala "

> > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Gopalkrishnan ji

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > thansk for ur post

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > can u post u r data in grp if not already discussed

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,

> > > " gopalakrishna "

> > > > > > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,

> > > > > > > > > > yes,i also have the same querry and also the same mer

> in

> > > > > > > question.Me

> > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > my lagna and 10th lord exal in lagna(ofcourse in PKY)

> > AND

> > > > > > > > DEBILITATED

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > lagna in D9.

> > > > > > > > > > But Mer always gave mixed results but majority of them

> > are

> > > > > > > > > positive.One

> > > > > > > > > > of them is i joined this group in my Rahu-Mer

> > period!!!...

> > > .

> > > > > > > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > > > > > > gopi.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Namaste members,

 

With 70% of US population suffering from diabetes, so do the 70% of

Indian population suffering from diabetes..... do not know which planet

is solely responsible... for it is related to basic lifestyle with

people becoming more lazy and lethargic with advent of all types of

REMOTES

 

With regards,

Sreeram_Srinivas

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Dear Goelji,

Not only Jaipur city is beautiful but even you are apparently, but appearances can be deceptive as I know from experience.

//Rahu is in the nakshatra of jupiter and sublord is rahu.Seventh cusp sub lord is jupiter.Jupiter is also aspecting 7th house and rahu in chalit chart is in the nakshatra of mars.Sun is in the nakshatra of Rahu.Query 1) Rahu becomes the strong significator of 7th house \ marriage, so she must get married in Ra\Ra\Rahu. or Ra\Ra\Sun or Ra\ra\mars or any other antar, why delay ?2) She got married in Rahu\jupiter\Saturn\venus, (25th nov 07). Here Saturn is in the nakshatra of Moon the lord of 8th house, saturn is also star lord of cuspul sub lord of 8th house.Here saturn is strong significator of 8th house.Query 2) a) Does 8th house signifies marriage in KP , why this prayanter not any other ? b) Is Jupiter is a strong significator of 7th house , how ?//

The above cannot be your handiwork, because as far as I know you are not versant with basic KP, and when you talk of StarLord of Cuspal sublords it gives away even little doubts because only Masters of 4 step theories who have advanced even KP, talk in such manner. Let the master come to me directly and I would enjoy discussing with him.

Additionally I just gave you a overview and Natal Birth Charts are not to be studied in detail without rectification of the SubLords wrt the Query put up, and without My Professional fees received , as it involves time and energy.

I can answer all your questions put up comfortably with ease, so do not hold any qualms about same, but with above conditions.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

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Dear Bhaskerji,Namaskar!///The above cannot be your handiwork, because as far as I know you are not versant with basic KP, and when you talk of StarLord of Cuspal sublords///This is totally my understanding (may be wrong) and even this conversation is not know to any person in Jaipur who is not the member of this forum. (I used Jhora software with KP ayanamsha.)I am not versant in KP, this you cannot know in a single meeting. Yeah i donot have any major experience in KP system. I already told you that i didn't found any good well versed KP astrologer in Jaipur.*****///Jupiter aspecting the 7th does not bring in marriage, but on the contrary Jupiter represents the 7th and 11th by Nakshatra dispositorship and placement respectively through 7th and 11th, that it brings in marriage.///Why the result as you mentioned for jupiter didnot materialize in Rahu antardasa ?Rahu is in the star of jupiter.******///Query put up, and without My Professional fees received , as it involves time and energy///.Since this is only the Post Marten KP analysis, it is upto you to spend energy and time to answer or not for this forum. (This was my free prediction many years before to her mother based on traditional astrology.)I hope Mr. Bohraji who also has good command over KP System will provide the deep analysis, so that we can have more clear understanding of it and gain more experience.Thankyou,Regards,Vijay GoelJaipur. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> Dear Goelji,> > Not only Jaipur city is beautiful but even you are apparently, but> appearances can be deceptive as I know from experience.> > //Rahu is in the nakshatra of jupiter and sublord is rahu.> Seventh cusp sub lord is jupiter.> Jupiter is also aspecting 7th house and rahu in chalit chart is in the> nakshatra of mars.> Sun is in the nakshatra of Rahu.> > Query 1) Rahu becomes the strong significator of 7th house \ marriage,> so she must get married in Ra\Ra\Rahu. or Ra\Ra\Sun or Ra\ra\mars or any> other antar, why delay ?> > 2) She got married in Rahu\jupiter\Saturn\venus, (25th nov 07).> > Here Saturn is in the nakshatra of Moon the lord of 8th house, saturn is> also star lord of cuspul sub lord of 8th house.> Here saturn is strong significator of 8th house.> > Query 2) a) Does 8th house signifies marriage in KP , why this prayanter> not any other ?> b) Is Jupiter is a strong significator of 7th house , how ?//> > The above cannot be your handiwork, because as far as I know you are not> versant with basic KP, and when you talk of StarLord of Cuspal sublords> it gives away even little doubts because only Masters of 4 step theories> who have advanced even KP, talk in such manner. Let the master come to> me directly and I would enjoy discussing with him.> > Additionally I just gave you a overview and Natal Birth Charts are not> to be studied in detail without rectification of the SubLords wrt the> Query put up, and without My Professional fees received , as it involves> time and energy.> > I can answer all your questions put up comfortably with ease, so do not> hold any qualms about same, but with above conditions.> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > , "vijay.goel"> goyalvj@ wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskerji,> >> > Namaskar !> >> > //you gave me a box of mithai//> >> > Just a gesture of respect & welcome for coming in our beautiful city> > Jaipur.> >> > *****> > //I gave you was worth millions of Rupees worth knowledge, practical> > and applicable in reality//> >> > You gave me the the photocopy of book 'Nakshatra Chintamani' on KP> > analysis, you also briefly told me the power of Nakshatra & chalit> based> > on KP system that how planets gives results on the basis of nakshatra.> > You took my chart to discuss that how nakshatra give results. I really> > appreciate it, thankyou.> >> > I told you that i will use this KP analysis in future ONLY FOR HORARY> > CHARTS after going through the readings of KP books and incase of> > confusion we can have discussion. BUT ALL THIS DEPENDS ON TIME I CAN> > GIVE TO THIS SUBJECT (in past many oppurtunities i had but i was not> > able to give time on KP)> > As i told you i am already professional astrolger based on Parashar & > > Jaimini paddati and I AM HAPPY WITH IT. I have done many prasha based> on> > traditional astrology with good success rate, still i have inclination> > towards KP system for Prashna charts.> >> > *****> > //unfortunately you have not registered apparently I am so very sad to> > say//> >> > I have not tested KP analysis in a single day , how i am going to use> on> > every chart without going into huge practice.> > I have very good knowledge of Lal kitab still i don't practice LK.> > Even i had learnt Ramal in past ( nearly 2000) from a very> knowledgeable> > Ramal Sastri which are rare to find, but due to some use of mantras> etc> > i never used and forget many things.> >> > *****> > //In this case too, Rahu moves to the 7th house in Bhava Chalita Chart> > and so will give results of the 7th house and not the 8th//> >> > Correct!> >> > I gave the prediction before the onset of rahu mahadasa (ending of> mars> > dasa) that she would get married on Jupiter antar NOT in Rahu antar to> > her mother. I hope you will agree that any professional reading are> not> > based on only a single parameter that 'Jupiter is aspecting 7th> house'.> >> > CAN you explain me though KP System why she does not get married in> > Rahu\Rahu antar in 'any prayanter dasa', infact of being rahu is in> 7th> > house in chalit kundli. This will increase our knowledge of KP> analysis.> >> > As per my obervation i find that :> >> > Rahu is in the nakshatra of jupiter and sublord is rahu.> > Seventh cusp sub lord is jupiter.> > Jupiter is also aspecting 7th house and rahu in chalit chart is in the> > nakshatra of mars.> > Sun is in the nakshatra of Rahu.> >> > Query 1) Rahu becomes the strong significator of 7th house \ marriage,> > so she must get married in Ra\Ra\Rahu. or Ra\Ra\Sun or Ra\ra\mars or> any> > other antar, why delay ?> >> > 2) She got married in Rahu\jupiter\Saturn\venus, (25th nov 07).> >> > Here Saturn is in the nakshatra of Moon the lord of 8th house, saturn> is> > also star lord of cuspul sub lord of 8th house.> > Here saturn is strong significator of 8th house.> >> > Query 2) a) Does 8th house signifies marriage in KP , why this> prayanter> > not any other ?> > b) Is Jupiter is a strong significator of 7th house , how ?> >> > I hope we all will have some more clear understanding on KP system.> >> > Thankyou,> > Love & Regards,> > Vijay Goel.> > Jaipur.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , "Bhaskar"> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Shri Goelji,> > >> > > Just yesterday I gave you 2 and a half hours of my time and you gave> > me> > > a box of mithai, but what I gave you was worth millions of Rupees> > worth> > > knowledge, practical and applicable in reality which unfortunately> you> > > have not registered apparently I am so very sad to say.> > >> > > I gave you some inputs on your own chart, on transits, on use of> > > Transits and Ruling Planets, and also the power of Bhava Chalita.> > >> > > In this case too, Rahu moves to the 7th house in Bhava Chalita Chart> > and> > > so will give results of the 7th house and not the 8th .> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "vijay.goel"> > > goyalvj@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Vandanaji,> > > >> > > > Just to say Rahu in 8th can give marriage in its mahadasa, i am> > > providing you the example.> > > >> > > > November 3, 1981> > > > Time: 11:25:00> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 76 E 34' 00", 27 N 03' 00"> > > > Bandikui, India> > > >> > > > In this chart of Dhanu Lagna and rasi, rahu is in 8th house and> she> > > got marrried in Rahu\jupiter antardasa on 25th nov 07.> > > >> > > > Jupiter is aspecting 7th house from 11th house.> > > >> > > > Thanks,> > > > Best Wishes,> > > > Vijay Goel> > > > Jaipur.> > > >> > > > , Vandna Misra> > > vandana_mishra_91@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > yes i repeat rahu in 8h can give marriage as it is natural> karaka> > > for marriage.again i repeat it does not work indepedently already> > > mentioned factors has to be taken into consideration.> > > > > before taking any decision about its significance.> > > > > Regards.> > > > > VANDANA MISHRA> > > > >> > > > > --- On Thu, 9/24/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga-dear> > > Gopi Jee> > > > > > > > > > Thursday, September 24, 2009, 10:15 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Vandana ji,> > > > >> > > > > I am amused by your comments.> > > > >> > > > > //now you tell me why you are so concerned for female//> > > > >> > > > > I am really not so much concerned as you tend to feel. But even> if> > I> > > > > was, as per suppositions, still it does not matter. At least> being> > a> > > man> > > > > I should be concerned for females, which is quite natural.> > > > >> > > > > //I Suppose you know the answer of what does the Rahu do in 8h> in> > > female> > > > > chart.being a secretive planet a woman may involve in some> illicit> > > > > relationship. she may suffer with some disoder in her private> > parts> > > and> > > > > sometimes difficulty in concieving a child .//> > > > >> > > > > Exactly what I sensed you would reeply back, which is why I> asked> > > about> > > > > Rahu in 8th for a female. Now you see, at one point of this> thread> > > you> > > > > have mentioned that 8th house is to be studied for marriage, and> > now> > > you> > > > > have written, its for illicit relationships.> > > > >> > > > > So exactly how do we suggest the 8th for marriage ?> > > > >> > > > > Yes males too are supsecptible I fully agree to same. In fact> > males> > > are> > > > > the cause of corruption of women in society.> > > > >> > > > > best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Vandna"> > > > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Respected BHASKARJI,> > > > > > I Suppose you know the answer of what does the Rahu do in 8h> in> > > female> > > > > chart.being a secretive planet a woman may involve in some> illicit> > > > > relationship. she may suffer with some disoder in her private> > parts> > > and> > > > > sometimes difficulty in concieving a child . BUT it is a very> > vague> > > > > reply becoz rahu is a shadowy planet so it does not work> > > indepedently> > > > > for that one has to see placement of its dispositor,its> nakshatra> > > lord> > > > > and its placement in navamsha.then only one can come to any> > > > > conlusion.According to some classic rahu is also a spiritual> > planet> > > it> > > > > can help in dhyan and sadhana and some other occult activities> > like> > > > > tantra kriya.> > > > > > now you tell me why you are so concerned for female.aren' t> the> > > male> > > > > are not suscepitible to thes traits when rahu is placed in 8h in> > > male> > > > > chart.Of course they can't concieve SO LEAVE THAT PORTION.> > > > > > REGARDS,GOD BLESS.> > > > > > VANDANA MISHRA.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > like tantra sadhna.> > > > > > But i wonder why woman aren't the male are not prone to above> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Vandana ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 8th and 12th house also indicate secret physical unions and> > > > > enjoyment of> > > > > > > such pleasures behind closed doors without having a legal> > > signature> > > > > of> > > > > > > marriage. Some KP astrologers also consider the 8th house> for> > > > > marriage> > > > > > > though I may personally not agree with this. It may also> > > indicate> > > > > sex> > > > > > > before marriage.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > What does Rahu in 8th house signify for a women in her chart> > > > > according> > > > > > > to you?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Vandna> > Misra> > > > > > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Manojji,> > > > > > > > 8H signify mangalya sukha in female chart so when this> house> > > > > activates> > > > > > > through dasha{,as you yourself mention it sustain marriage }> > > person> > > > > > > > may get married. besides it is sukh bhava of children{4> from> > > 5h}> > > > > to> > > > > > > have childeren one has to get married.12H is bed life> > > happiness.to> > > > > get> > > > > > > that pleasure legally one has to tie knot.isn;t it.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards.> > > > > > > > vandana mishra.> > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/22/09, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@> > > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga> > > > > Rajyoga-dear> > > > > > > Gopi Jee> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 8:17 PM> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Vandana Ji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Could you please explain why 8H and 12H signify marriage?> > > Sorry> > > > > for> > > > > > > asking some thing very basic, but, from my understanding it> is> > > > > primarily> > > > > > > 2, 7, 11 and some include 9. I understand the 8H being 2nd> > from> > > the> > > > > 7th> > > > > > > can "sustain" marriage, but, can it be used to "denote"> > > marriage?> > > > > Also> > > > > > > 12H is 6th from the 7th, so if 7th denotes the primary house> > of> > > > > > > marriage, how is 12H also a house of marriage?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > -Manoj> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Vandna <vandana_mishra_ 91 >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:48:46 PM> > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga> > > Rajyoga-dear> > > > > Gopi> > > > > > > Jee> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Respected sreenadhji,> > > > > > > > I am overwhelmed with your detailed explaination, rather i> > am> > > > > still> > > > > > > relishing it.just a FEW querries for this inquisitive> mind.you> > > have> > > > > > > mentioned horoscpe having same combination can point to> > > different> > > > > > > stature of individual's life like-married living> > happily,married> > > > > > > divorced.... .unmarried sainthood etc.plus you have> mentioned> > > same> > > > > > > planetary combination with changing moon position in context> > of> > > > > dasha> > > > > > > sequence can indicate above possibilities- -now what i have> > > > > understood> > > > > > > from above statement is that IT is dasha which decides.now> my> > > querry> > > > > is> > > > > > > -in case of happily married is it possible that bad dasha> > never> > > > > comes> > > > > > > not even AD/PD.then at that time how marriage> > > survives?especially> > > > > > > > When IN same planetatry combination another marriage> > > fails.again> > > > > > > supported by same bad dasha.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > in another example of unmarried saint is it possible to> > getnot> > > > > even a> > > > > > > single marriage bhava dasha when we have too many houses for> > > > > marriage> > > > > > > 2h,7h,8h,12h sometimes even 5h.lets say no MD but again what> > > about> > > > > > > AD/PD. still that GREAT man escapes from later's clutches?> > > > > > > > ...I STILL WONDER ABOUT THIS CATASTROPHE OF MARITAL> > > COMBINATION.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > WITH DUE REGARDS AND BEST WISHES,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > VANDANA MISHRA> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > -- In ancient_indian_ astrology,> "sreesog"> > > > > sreesog@> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Vanadana ji,> > > > > > > > > If a combination indicating marriage possibility is> > present,> > > a> > > > > > > > > potential dasa comes, and if the age is ripe then> marriage> > > > > > > could/will> > > > > > > > > happen at that time.> > > > > > > > > * Combination indicating marriage could be even a> benefic> > in> > > > > 2nd,> > > > > > > 9th,> > > > > > > > > 11th etc> > > > > > > > > * Dasa could be - the dasas of said planets, or its> > > unaflicated> > > > > > > lords,> > > > > > > > > or if the dasa of a planet placed in own house> > > > > > > > > But if there is a combination that indicate the breaking> > of> > > a> > > > > > > > > marriage, death of wife etc is present, and if the> > > corresponding> > > > > > > dasa> > > > > > > > > comes, and if the age is ripe (ie. it should be after> the> > > > > marriage -> > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > only marriage happened then only it can breakdown) then> > that> > > > > > > marriage> > > > > > > > > will break due to the cause indicated by the said> > > combination.> > > > > > > > > So the horoscope having the SAME combinations itself can> > > point> > > > > to -> > > > > > > > > * Married and is living happly (The bad dasa never came> > and> > > the> > > > > > > result> > > > > > > > > didn't materilized)> > > > > > > > > * Married, Divorced (Both the dasa indicating marriage> as> > > well> > > > > as> > > > > > > > > divorce came)> > > > > > > > > * Unmarrid, but never beame a saint (neither the dasa> > > indicating> > > > > > > > > marriage nor the dasa indicating saint hood)> > > > > > > > > * Unmarried Saint (Dasa indicating marriage did not come> > but> > > the> > > > > > > dasa> > > > > > > > > indicating sainthood came)> > > > > > > > > * Married saint (Dasa indicating marriage came, marriage> > > broken> > > > > and> > > > > > > > > became a saint)> > > > > > > > > So ultimatly even though it is the combinations> indicating> > > the> > > > > > > results> > > > > > > > > that GENERATE the results, but it is the dasas which> > DELIVER> > > > > them.> > > > > > > So> > > > > > > > > just by looking at the combinations such as a some> > malefics> > > in> > > > > 7th> > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > 8th etc alone (of course they are important, but) - you> > > cannot> > > > > come> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > the conclusion that the individual is a victim of broken> > > > > marriage or> > > > > > > > > denial of marriage; both are possible. A good astrologer> > > will> > > > > > > therefore> > > > > > > > > check the dasas before deriving the conclusion regarding> > > whether> > > > > it> > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > a marriage-happlife, marriage-breakdown, denial of> > marriage,> > > > > > > > > bachelor-saint etc.> > > > > > > > > As mentioned earlier the same planetary combination with> > > > > changing> > > > > > > > > moon position (different nakshatra dasa sequences) can> > > indicate> > > > > all> > > > > > > > > these possibilities, and this itself is the beauty of> > > astrology!> > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> Vandna> > > Misra> > > > > > > > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > RESPECTED ASTROLOGERS,> > > > > > > > > > Since Gopiji,has given us liberty to discuss his chart> i> > > was> > > > > > > wondering> > > > > > > > > how one can diifferentiate between delay marriage later> > > broken> > > > > down> > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > denial in marriage.as in both� the cases 7h,12h,2h> > and> > > > > karaka> > > > > > > > > venus�has to be afflicted.> > > > > > > > > > With Regards to all,> > > > > > > > > > VANDANA MISHRA> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Vijay ji,

//I am not versant in KP, this you cannot know in a single meeting. Yeah i donot have any major experience in KP system. I already told you that i didn't found any good well versed KP astrologer in Jaipur.//

I do not judge persons or their depths of knowledge in various streams, on the basis of one meeting. i have been following your exchanges even in traditional astrology since a long period in this Group, and I know you have just understood a few days back the basic principle about nakshatra Owners giving results for the planets they occupy.

I also am not obliged to answer anyone unless I find it necessary, or understand that the persons whom I am expecting to understand will understand so.

I am also a busy person with affiliation to major astrological websites of the world and evolving continously on the public platform as you will also realise in a months or two months time.

Presently working for -

www.astrolife.com

www.ganeshaspeaks.com

www.astro.ndtv.com

www.astrolife.com/msn

 

and also currently busy with Mobile cellular astrological services in Your own geographical area and also for Bombay, so these small bits of unnecessary exchanges take up my time and not very much interested to prove my calibre just to each and all. I choose whom to impress and whom not to.

 

In this particular case too I do not feel the urge to discuss KP with you, since have never seen you doing this before on the Forum, and have no interest to do so, on a sudden spectaculat development within a short period, unless I am satisfied about ones credentials in Kp.

 

Hope this closes this thread, but if you wish to continue then I too will begin asking questions alongwith answering same.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

, "vijay.goel" <goyalvj wrote:>> Dear Bhaskerji,> Namaskar!> > ///The above cannot be your handiwork, because as far as I know you are> not versant with basic KP, and when you talk of StarLord of Cuspal> sublords///> > This is totally my understanding (may be wrong) and even this> conversation is not know to any person in Jaipur who is not the member> of this forum.> (I used Jhora software with KP ayanamsha.)> > I am not versant in KP, this you cannot know in a single meeting. Yeah i> donot have any major experience in KP system. I already told you that i> didn't found any good well versed KP astrologer in Jaipur.> > *****> ///Jupiter aspecting the 7th does not bring in marriage, but on the> contrary Jupiter represents the 7th and 11th by Nakshatra dispositorship> and placement respectively through 7th and 11th, that it brings in> marriage.///> > Why the result as you mentioned for jupiter didnot materialize in Rahu> antardasa ?> Rahu is in the star of jupiter.> > ******> ///Query put up, and without My Professional fees received , as it> involves time and energy///.> > Since this is only the Post Marten KP analysis, it is upto you to spend> energy and time to answer or not for this forum.> > (This was my free prediction many years before to her mother based on> traditional astrology.)> > I hope Mr. Bohraji who also has good command over KP System will provide> the deep analysis, so that we can have more clear understanding of it> and gain more experience.> > Thankyou,> Regards,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> > , "Bhaskar"> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> > Dear Goelji,> >> > Not only Jaipur city is beautiful but even you are apparently, but> > appearances can be deceptive as I know from experience.> >> > //Rahu is in the nakshatra of jupiter and sublord is rahu.> > Seventh cusp sub lord is jupiter.> > Jupiter is also aspecting 7th house and rahu in chalit chart is in the> > nakshatra of mars.> > Sun is in the nakshatra of Rahu.> >> > Query 1) Rahu becomes the strong significator of 7th house \ marriage,> > so she must get married in Ra\Ra\Rahu. or Ra\Ra\Sun or Ra\ra\mars or> any> > other antar, why delay ?> >> > 2) She got married in Rahu\jupiter\Saturn\venus, (25th nov 07).> >> > Here Saturn is in the nakshatra of Moon the lord of 8th house, saturn> is> > also star lord of cuspul sub lord of 8th house.> > Here saturn is strong significator of 8th house.> >> > Query 2) a) Does 8th house signifies marriage in KP , why this> prayanter> > not any other ?> > b) Is Jupiter is a strong significator of 7th house , how ?//> >> > The above cannot be your handiwork, because as far as I know you are> not> > versant with basic KP, and when you talk of StarLord of Cuspal> sublords> > it gives away even little doubts because only Masters of 4 step> theories> > who have advanced even KP, talk in such manner. Let the master come to> > me directly and I would enjoy discussing with him.> >> > Additionally I just gave you a overview and Natal Birth Charts are not> > to be studied in detail without rectification of the SubLords wrt the> > Query put up, and without My Professional fees received , as it> involves> > time and energy.> >> > I can answer all your questions put up comfortably with ease, so do> not> > hold any qualms about same, but with above conditions.> >> > best wishes,> >> > Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , "vijay.goel"> > goyalvj@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskerji,> > >> > > Namaskar !> > >> > > //you gave me a box of mithai//> > >> > > Just a gesture of respect & welcome for coming in our beautiful city> > > Jaipur.> > >> > > *****> > > //I gave you was worth millions of Rupees worth knowledge, practical> > > and applicable in reality//> > >> > > You gave me the the photocopy of book 'Nakshatra Chintamani' on KP> > > analysis, you also briefly told me the power of Nakshatra & chalit> > based> > > on KP system that how planets gives results on the basis of> nakshatra.> > > You took my chart to discuss that how nakshatra give results. I> really> > > appreciate it, thankyou.> > >> > > I told you that i will use this KP analysis in future ONLY FOR> HORARY> > > CHARTS after going through the readings of KP books and incase of> > > confusion we can have discussion. BUT ALL THIS DEPENDS ON TIME I CAN> > > GIVE TO THIS SUBJECT (in past many oppurtunities i had but i was not> > > able to give time on KP)> > > As i told you i am already professional astrolger based on Parashar> & > > > Jaimini paddati and I AM HAPPY WITH IT. I have done many prasha> based> > on> > > traditional astrology with good success rate, still i have> inclination> > > towards KP system for Prashna charts.> > >> > > *****> > > //unfortunately you have not registered apparently I am so very sad> to> > > say//> > >> > > I have not tested KP analysis in a single day , how i am going to> use> > on> > > every chart without going into huge practice.> > > I have very good knowledge of Lal kitab still i don't practice LK.> > > Even i had learnt Ramal in past ( nearly 2000) from a very> > knowledgeable> > > Ramal Sastri which are rare to find, but due to some use of mantras> > etc> > > i never used and forget many things.> > >> > > *****> > > //In this case too, Rahu moves to the 7th house in Bhava Chalita> Chart> > > and so will give results of the 7th house and not the 8th//> > >> > > Correct!> > >> > > I gave the prediction before the onset of rahu mahadasa (ending of> > mars> > > dasa) that she would get married on Jupiter antar NOT in Rahu antar> to> > > her mother. I hope you will agree that any professional reading are> > not> > > based on only a single parameter that 'Jupiter is aspecting 7th> > house'.> > >> > > CAN you explain me though KP System why she does not get married in> > > Rahu\Rahu antar in 'any prayanter dasa', infact of being rahu is in> > 7th> > > house in chalit kundli. This will increase our knowledge of KP> > analysis.> > >> > > As per my obervation i find that :> > >> > > Rahu is in the nakshatra of jupiter and sublord is rahu.> > > Seventh cusp sub lord is jupiter.> > > Jupiter is also aspecting 7th house and rahu in chalit chart is in> the> > > nakshatra of mars.> > > Sun is in the nakshatra of Rahu.> > >> > > Query 1) Rahu becomes the strong significator of 7th house \> marriage,> > > so she must get married in Ra\Ra\Rahu. or Ra\Ra\Sun or Ra\ra\mars or> > any> > > other antar, why delay ?> > >> > > 2) She got married in Rahu\jupiter\Saturn\venus, (25th nov 07).> > >> > > Here Saturn is in the nakshatra of Moon the lord of 8th house,> saturn> > is> > > also star lord of cuspul sub lord of 8th house.> > > Here saturn is strong significator of 8th house.> > >> > > Query 2) a) Does 8th house signifies marriage in KP , why this> > prayanter> > > not any other ?> > > b) Is Jupiter is a strong significator of 7th house , how ?> > >> > > I hope we all will have some more clear understanding on KP system.> > >> > > Thankyou,> > > Love & Regards,> > > Vijay Goel.> > > Jaipur.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "Bhaskar"> > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Shri Goelji,> > > >> > > > Just yesterday I gave you 2 and a half hours of my time and you> gave> > > me> > > > a box of mithai, but what I gave you was worth millions of Rupees> > > worth> > > > knowledge, practical and applicable in reality which unfortunately> > you> > > > have not registered apparently I am so very sad to say.> > > >> > > > I gave you some inputs on your own chart, on transits, on use of> > > > Transits and Ruling Planets, and also the power of Bhava Chalita.> > > >> > > > In this case too, Rahu moves to the 7th house in Bhava Chalita> Chart> > > and> > > > so will give results of the 7th house and not the 8th .> > > >> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "vijay.goel"> > > > goyalvj@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Vandanaji,> > > > >> > > > > Just to say Rahu in 8th can give marriage in its mahadasa, i am> > > > providing you the example.> > > > >> > > > > November 3, 1981> > > > > Time: 11:25:00> > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > Place: 76 E 34' 00", 27 N 03' 00"> > > > > Bandikui, India> > > > >> > > > > In this chart of Dhanu Lagna and rasi, rahu is in 8th house and> > she> > > > got marrried in Rahu\jupiter antardasa on 25th nov 07.> > > > >> > > > > Jupiter is aspecting 7th house from 11th house.> > > > >> > > > > Thanks,> > > > > Best Wishes,> > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > Jaipur.> > > > >> > > > > , Vandna Misra> > > > vandana_mishra_91@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > yes i repeat rahu in 8h can give marriage as it is natural> > karaka> > > > for marriage.again i repeat it does not work indepedently already> > > > mentioned factors has to be taken into consideration.> > > > > > before taking any decision about its significance.> > > > > > Regards.> > > > > > VANDANA MISHRA> > > > > >> > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/24/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > Re: Neechabanga> Rajyoga-dear> > > > Gopi Jee> > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, September 24, 2009, 10:15 AM> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Vandana ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > I am amused by your comments.> > > > > >> > > > > > //now you tell me why you are so concerned for female//> > > > > >> > > > > > I am really not so much concerned as you tend to feel. But> even> > if> > > I> > > > > > was, as per suppositions, still it does not matter. At least> > being> > > a> > > > man> > > > > > I should be concerned for females, which is quite natural.> > > > > >> > > > > > //I Suppose you know the answer of what does the Rahu do in 8h> > in> > > > female> > > > > > chart.being a secretive planet a woman may involve in some> > illicit> > > > > > relationship. she may suffer with some disoder in her private> > > parts> > > > and> > > > > > sometimes difficulty in concieving a child .//> > > > > >> > > > > > Exactly what I sensed you would reeply back, which is why I> > asked> > > > about> > > > > > Rahu in 8th for a female. Now you see, at one point of this> > thread> > > > you> > > > > > have mentioned that 8th house is to be studied for marriage,> and> > > now> > > > you> > > > > > have written, its for illicit relationships.> > > > > >> > > > > > So exactly how do we suggest the 8th for marriage ?> > > > > >> > > > > > Yes males too are supsecptible I fully agree to same. In fact> > > males> > > > are> > > > > > the cause of corruption of women in society.> > > > > >> > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > >> > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Vandna"> > > > > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Respected BHASKARJI,> > > > > > > I Suppose you know the answer of what does the Rahu do in 8h> > in> > > > female> > > > > > chart.being a secretive planet a woman may involve in some> > illicit> > > > > > relationship. she may suffer with some disoder in her private> > > parts> > > > and> > > > > > sometimes difficulty in concieving a child . BUT it is a very> > > vague> > > > > > reply becoz rahu is a shadowy planet so it does not work> > > > indepedently> > > > > > for that one has to see placement of its dispositor,its> > nakshatra> > > > lord> > > > > > and its placement in navamsha.then only one can come to any> > > > > > conlusion.According to some classic rahu is also a spiritual> > > planet> > > > it> > > > > > can help in dhyan and sadhana and some other occult activities> > > like> > > > > > tantra kriya.> > > > > > > now you tell me why you are so concerned for female.aren' t> > the> > > > male> > > > > > are not suscepitible to thes traits when rahu is placed in 8h> in> > > > male> > > > > > chart.Of course they can't concieve SO LEAVE THAT PORTION.> > > > > > > REGARDS,GOD BLESS.> > > > > > > VANDANA MISHRA.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > like tantra sadhna.> > > > > > > But i wonder why woman aren't the male are not prone to> above> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> "Bhaskar"> > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Vandana ji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 8th and 12th house also indicate secret physical unions> and> > > > > > enjoyment of> > > > > > > > such pleasures behind closed doors without having a legal> > > > signature> > > > > > of> > > > > > > > marriage. Some KP astrologers also consider the 8th house> > for> > > > > > marriage> > > > > > > > though I may personally not agree with this. It may also> > > > indicate> > > > > > sex> > > > > > > > before marriage.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > What does Rahu in 8th house signify for a women in her> chart> > > > > > according> > > > > > > > to you?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Vandna> > > Misra> > > > > > > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Manojji,> > > > > > > > > 8H signify mangalya sukha in female chart so when this> > house> > > > > > activates> > > > > > > > through dasha{,as you yourself mention it sustain marriage> }> > > > person> > > > > > > > > may get married. besides it is sukh bhava of children{4> > from> > > > 5h}> > > > > > to> > > > > > > > have childeren one has to get married.12H is bed life> > > > happiness.to> > > > > > get> > > > > > > > that pleasure legally one has to tie knot.isn;t it.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Regards.> > > > > > > > > vandana mishra.> > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/22/09, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@> > > > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga> > > > > > Rajyoga-dear> > > > > > > > Gopi Jee> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 8:17 PM> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Vandana Ji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Could you please explain why 8H and 12H signify> marriage?> > > > Sorry> > > > > > for> > > > > > > > asking some thing very basic, but, from my understanding> it> > is> > > > > > primarily> > > > > > > > 2, 7, 11 and some include 9. I understand the 8H being 2nd> > > from> > > > the> > > > > > 7th> > > > > > > > can "sustain" marriage, but, can it be used to "denote"> > > > marriage?> > > > > > Also> > > > > > > > 12H is 6th from the 7th, so if 7th denotes the primary> house> > > of> > > > > > > > marriage, how is 12H also a house of marriage?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > -Manoj> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Vandna <vandana_mishra_ 91 >> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:48:46 PM> > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga> > > > Rajyoga-dear> > > > > > Gopi> > > > > > > > Jee> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Respected sreenadhji,> > > > > > > > > I am overwhelmed with your detailed explaination, rather> i> > > am> > > > > > still> > > > > > > > relishing it.just a FEW querries for this inquisitive> > mind.you> > > > have> > > > > > > > mentioned horoscpe having same combination can point to> > > > different> > > > > > > > stature of individual's life like-married living> > > happily,married> > > > > > > > divorced.... .unmarried sainthood etc.plus you have> > mentioned> > > > same> > > > > > > > planetary combination with changing moon position in> context> > > of> > > > > > dasha> > > > > > > > sequence can indicate above possibilities- -now what i> have> > > > > > understood> > > > > > > > from above statement is that IT is dasha which decides.now> > my> > > > querry> > > > > > is> > > > > > > > -in case of happily married is it possible that bad dasha> > > never> > > > > > comes> > > > > > > > not even AD/PD.then at that time how marriage> > > > survives?especially> > > > > > > > > When IN same planetatry combination another marriage> > > > fails.again> > > > > > > > supported by same bad dasha.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > in another example of unmarried saint is it possible to> > > getnot> > > > > > even a> > > > > > > > single marriage bhava dasha when we have too many houses> for> > > > > > marriage> > > > > > > > 2h,7h,8h,12h sometimes even 5h.lets say no MD but again> what> > > > about> > > > > > > > AD/PD. still that GREAT man escapes from later's clutches?> > > > > > > > > ...I STILL WONDER ABOUT THIS CATASTROPHE OF MARITAL> > > > COMBINATION.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > WITH DUE REGARDS AND BEST WISHES,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > VANDANA MISHRA> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > -- In ancient_indian_ astrology,> > "sreesog"> > > > > > sreesog@> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Vanadana ji,> > > > > > > > > > If a combination indicating marriage possibility is> > > present,> > > > a> > > > > > > > > > potential dasa comes, and if the age is ripe then> > marriage> > > > > > > > could/will> > > > > > > > > > happen at that time.> > > > > > > > > > * Combination indicating marriage could be even a> > benefic> > > in> > > > > > 2nd,> > > > > > > > 9th,> > > > > > > > > > 11th etc> > > > > > > > > > * Dasa could be - the dasas of said planets, or its> > > > unaflicated> > > > > > > > lords,> > > > > > > > > > or if the dasa of a planet placed in own house> > > > > > > > > > But if there is a combination that indicate the> breaking> > > of> > > > a> > > > > > > > > > marriage, death of wife etc is present, and if the> > > > corresponding> > > > > > > > dasa> > > > > > > > > > comes, and if the age is ripe (ie. it should be after> > the> > > > > > marriage -> > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > > only marriage happened then only it can breakdown)> then> > > that> > > > > > > > marriage> > > > > > > > > > will break due to the cause indicated by the said> > > > combination.> > > > > > > > > > So the horoscope having the SAME combinations itself> can> > > > point> > > > > > to -> > > > > > > > > > * Married and is living happly (The bad dasa never> came> > > and> > > > the> > > > > > > > result> > > > > > > > > > didn't materilized)> > > > > > > > > > * Married, Divorced (Both the dasa indicating marriage> > as> > > > well> > > > > > as> > > > > > > > > > divorce came)> > > > > > > > > > * Unmarrid, but never beame a saint (neither the dasa> > > > indicating> > > > > > > > > > marriage nor the dasa indicating saint hood)> > > > > > > > > > * Unmarried Saint (Dasa indicating marriage did not> come> > > but> > > > the> > > > > > > > dasa> > > > > > > > > > indicating sainthood came)> > > > > > > > > > * Married saint (Dasa indicating marriage came,> marriage> > > > broken> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > became a saint)> > > > > > > > > > So ultimatly even though it is the combinations> > indicating> > > > the> > > > > > > > results> > > > > > > > > > that GENERATE the results, but it is the dasas which> > > DELIVER> > > > > > them.> > > > > > > > So> > > > > > > > > > just by looking at the combinations such as a some> > > malefics> > > > in> > > > > > 7th> > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > 8th etc alone (of course they are important, but) -> you> > > > cannot> > > > > > come> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > the conclusion that the individual is a victim of> broken> > > > > > marriage or> > > > > > > > > > denial of marriage; both are possible. A good> astrologer> > > > will> > > > > > > > therefore> > > > > > > > > > check the dasas before deriving the conclusion> regarding> > > > whether> > > > > > it> > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > a marriage-happlife, marriage-breakdown, denial of> > > marriage,> > > > > > > > > > bachelor-saint etc.> > > > > > > > > > As mentioned earlier the same planetary combination> with> > > > > > changing> > > > > > > > > > moon position (different nakshatra dasa sequences) can> > > > indicate> > > > > > all> > > > > > > > > > these possibilities, and this itself is the beauty of> > > > astrology!> > > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > Vandna> > > > Misra> > > > > > > > > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > RESPECTED ASTROLOGERS,> > > > > > > > > > > Since Gopiji,has given us liberty to discuss his> chart> > i> > > > was> > > > > > > > wondering> > > > > > > > > > how one can diifferentiate between delay marriage> later> > > > broken> > > > > > down> > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > denial in marriage.as in both� the cases> 7h,12h,2h> > > and> > > > > > karaka> > > > > > > > > > venus�has to be afflicted.> > > > > > > > > > > With Regards to all,> > > > > > > > > > > VANDANA MISHRA> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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