Concept of Aaroodha in Prashna – Kerala style

May 12, 2006

Dear Sreenadh,

Kindly tell me about the procedure of Prasna, how it is done in

Kerala. Kindly also tell me about the use of Kavadi (shells) in

Prashna and also about the concept of Blocking of Aarooda.

Thanks & regards,

Kannan

May 12, 2006

Kankan, Sreenadh will brief you regarding the queries putforth , in the mean time, I will narrate , whatever little I know about it. The cawries also known "Kavadies" are 108 in number. Firstly, the cawries are are cleansed in pure water. Then it is immersed in "Cow's urine" for a day. Then it is kept in "panchagavya"(An Ayurvedic preparation available in all Ayurvededic medical outlets of Kerala, made out from five products, obtained from cow) for couple of days.Subsequently, it is kept in tender cocanut water for a day. Again in rose water for another day. Then touching these Cawries, Ganesha Gayatri is chanted minimum of 1008 (In earlier times, 24,000) in the early hours of the day. After that , touching the cawries, Dakshinamurthy Mantra (some go for Divine Panchakshari) is chanted 1008 times. On an auspicious Muhurth, when Jupiter is powerful and well placed from the Ascendant, this is

handed over to the disciple by the preceptor. The method of analysis When a querist approach the astrologer, after praying to Lord Ganesh and Ishata Devata, and prayer to Almighty citing the name Nakshatra and age of the querist , is made with a request to grant the correct Ascendant that will reflect the querist past, present and future. A handful of cawries are taken. Expunging the multiples of 12, the remaining is taken as the "Aruuda" . The rising sign is technically called "Udaya Lagna" A comparison is made between the Aruda & the rising sign. While conducting the prasna, the Astrologer will carefully notice the Omens technically called " Nimithas" If the Aruuda is in 6-8-12 from rising sign, it is generally believed, the prasna is hindered (Blocked). Exceptions are there. Say, if rising is Taurus & Aruuda is Libra , there is no hindrance to prasna ; reason is both these

signs are owned by one and the same planet, that is, Venus . Hope this helps Madhu N Nair BTW--All these cawery purifying , and allied affairs are things of the past. It is now Westerners , who are showing real interest in such things. kankan_73 <kankan_73 wrote: Dear Sreenadh,Kindly tell me about the procedure of Prasna, how it is done in Kerala. Kindly also tell me about the use of Kavadi (shells) in Prashna and also about the concept of Blocking of Aarooda.Thanks & regards,Kannan

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May 12, 2006

Dear Kannan ji,

> Kindly tell me about the procedure of Prasna, how it is done in

> Kerala.

What kind of Prasna you mean? If in Kerala style - Normal Prasna,

Tamboola Prasna, Ashtamangala Prasna etc. Several types of Prasna are

there. About which one you are asking about? Clarify. But what ever

that be it is a lengthy procedure.

> Kindly also tell me about the use of Kavadi (shells) in

> Prashna

Kavadi is one of the main tools used by Kerala astrologers from

ancient period. Yes, it is still used by most of the Kerala

astrologers. It is used for two purposes.

1) For getting the Aaroodha (It is different from the Arudha concept)

2) For doing the mathematical calculations.

I will describe the first. As per Krishneeyam 2 types of Zodiacs are

considered.

i) The Chara chakra (Moving Zodiac) that is there in the sky.

ii) The Sthira chakra (Fixed Zodiac) that is imagined to be present

around the astrologer.

A super imposition of the two is used in Prasna. The sign (in the

zodiac around the astrologer) in which the qurent is standing (or

sitting) is considered as the Aaroodha. [Aaroodhatwal prischakena

rasiraroodhamuchyate. Meaning it is because the qurent is standing on

that sign it is called Aaroodha]. It is known as " Stityaaroodha " . If

the " Stityaaroodha " is not known then, the astrologer will ask the

qurent to place a coin (In ashtamangala prasna, golden coin) on any of

the signs of the rasi chakra that is drawn in front of the astrologer.

Usually this (golden)coin is mixed with flowers and rice and is given

in the hand of the qurent and the astrologer asks him to place it any

of the signs in rasi chakra. If " Stityaroodha " is not known, then this

sign is taken as " Aaroodha " . This is the usual proceedure followed.

This usually known as " Swarnaroodha " , the Aaroodha got with placing of

gold. If multiple questions are there, or if the astrologer need to

answer temporory questions, then then he puts his hand over the 108

shells he used to keep along with, recites 'namaH sivaya' (usually for

108 times), recites the other usual mantras he recites, and takes a

handful of Kavadi (shells). Then he divides it will 12 and the reminder

no, would be taken to indicate a sign, and that sign is considered as

Aaroodha. For example if the astrologer happened to take 58 shells in

his hand, then 61/12 gives 1 as the remainder and then Aries is taken

as the Aaroodha. This is one use of Kavadi (shells).

Aaroodha is given more importance than Prasna, since it is said in

Prasnamarga that, " Tasmin samyag parijchate sarvam tenaiva chintyatam " .

Meaning, if the astrologer knows the Aaroodha the everything can be

predicted with it. This statement is applicable to Stityaroodha,

Swarnaroodha, or Aaroodha.

> also about the concept of Blocking of Aaroodha

Blocking of Aaroodha is a concept which is used to validate the

relationship between Aaroodha and Lagna at the time of Prasna. If the

Lagna is in the 2-4-6-8-10-12 houses from Aaroodha, then it is said

that 'Aaroodha is blocked' (Aaroodha Vedha). It is said that if the

Aaroodha is blocked (by Lagna) then the Prasna will not indicate the

clear and correct remedies that should be undertaken, and the prasna

will not give fruitful results and that the exact reason for the

troubles and turbulences encountered by the qurent in life won't be

revealed by that Prasna. If the Aaroodha is blocked in a Prasna, then

the astrologer immediately used to suggest some remedies, before

proceeding with Prasna. It is believed that, Aaroodha is blocked -

For 2nd house - Due to Anger of Deities (Deva Kopa)

For 4th house - Due to Anger of Family god (Dharma deva)

For 6th house - Due to the activities of Enemies (Satru Badha)

For 8th house - Due to Anger of Ancestors (Pitr Kopa)

For 12th house - Due to Anger of bad spirits (Preta kopa)

These are the views given in texts like 'Deva prasna muktavali'.

Even if Aaroodha is blocked prasna would continue, but it would be

informed to the qurent that all his troubles won't be cured completely,

since the prasna itself indicates that locating the exact reason for

problems and remedies would be difficult in such situation.

Love,

Sreenadh

, " kankan_73 "

<kankan_73 wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadh,

>

> Kindly tell me about the procedure of Prasna, how it is done in

> Kerala. Kindly also tell me about the use of Kavadi (shells) in

> Prashna and also about the concept of Blocking of Aarooda.

>

> Thanks & regards,

> Kannan

>

May 12, 2006

Dear Madhu ji,

That was beautiful! But we should reach an agreement on -

Whether to call it Kavadi, Cowries, or shells or whatever.

Also Aaroodha, Aruuda or Aruda whatever.

Otherwise we will make others confused with 'Arudha' out there. )

Actually I feel that Arudha would be the correct spelling, but alas

that spelling was used by somebody else!!! )

Yes, instead of saying " Dividing the number of shells with 12 and

taking the remainder " , the words " Expunging the multiples of 12 " ,

sounds better.

Instead of the words, 'the rising sign' or 'Udaya Lagna', I think we

can stay with the word 'Lagna' or 'Asc'. As we know in Prasna all

those words mean the same. If we use all different words and

different spelling many may get confused.

By the way what is this :Arudha (AL) others are talking about? And

how they are calculating it? [Deal All, please forgive my ignorance]

Love,

Sreenadh

, VYASAJI

<vyasatvm wrote:

>

> Kankan,

> Sreenadh will brief you regarding the queries putforth , in the

mean time, I will narrate , whatever little I know about it.

> The cawries also known " Kavadies " are 108 in number. Firstly,

the cawries are are cleansed in pure water. Then it is immersed

in " Cow's urine " for a day. Then it is kept in " panchagavya " (An

Ayurvedic preparation available in all Ayurvededic medical outlets

of Kerala, made out from five products, obtained from cow) for

couple of days.Subsequently, it is kept in tender cocanut water for

a day. Again in rose water for another day. Then touching these

Cawries, Ganesha Gayatri is chanted minimum of 1008 (In earlier

times, 24,000) in the early hours of the day. After that , touching

the cawries, Dakshinamurthy Mantra (some go for Divine Panchakshari)

is chanted 1008 times. On an auspicious Muhurth, when Jupiter is

powerful and well placed from the Ascendant, this is handed over to

the disciple by the preceptor.

> The method of analysis

> When a querist approach the astrologer, after praying to Lord

Ganesh and Ishata Devata, and prayer to Almighty citing the name

Nakshatra and age of the querist , is made with a request to grant

the correct Ascendant that will reflect the querist past, present and

future. A handful of cawries are taken. Expunging the multiples of

12, the remaining is taken as the " Aruuda " . The rising sign is

technically called " Udaya Lagna " A comparison is made between the

Aruda & the rising sign. While conducting the prasna, the Astrologer

will carefully notice the Omens technically called " Nimithas " If the

Aruuda is in 6-8-12 from rising sign, it is generally believed, the

prasna is hindered (Blocked). Exceptions are there. Say, if rising is

Taurus & Aruuda is Libra , there is no hindrance to prasna ; reason

is both these signs are owned by one and the same planet, that is,

Venus .

> Hope this helps

> Madhu N Nair

> BTW--All these cawery purifying , and allied affairs are things

of the past. It is now Westerners , who are showing real interest in

such things.

>

> kankan_73 <kankan_73 wrote:

> Dear Sreenadh,

>

> Kindly tell me about the procedure of Prasna, how it is done in

> Kerala. Kindly also tell me about the use of Kavadi (shells) in

> Prashna and also about the concept of Blocking of Aarooda.

>

> Thanks & regards,

> Kannan

May 12, 2006

Dear Madhuji and Sreenadhji,

Many thanks for your explanations.

One more query, Is Jupiters position from Arudha (or Aaroodha) also

consider for Blocking/hindrance to Arudha. Also what if the arudha

is blocked? what how to proceed next?

Thanks & regards,

Kannan

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Madhu ji,

> That was beautiful! But we should reach an agreement on -

> Whether to call it Kavadi, Cowries, or shells or whatever.

> Also Aaroodha, Aruuda or Aruda whatever.

> Otherwise we will make others confused with 'Arudha' out

there. )

> Actually I feel that Arudha would be the correct spelling, but

alas

> that spelling was used by somebody else!!! )

> Yes, instead of saying " Dividing the number of shells with 12 and

> taking the remainder " , the words " Expunging the multiples of 12 " ,

> sounds better.

> Instead of the words, 'the rising sign' or 'Udaya Lagna', I think

we

> can stay with the word 'Lagna' or 'Asc'. As we know in Prasna all

> those words mean the same. If we use all different words and

> different spelling many may get confused.

> By the way what is this :Arudha (AL) others are talking about?

And

> how they are calculating it? [Deal All, please forgive my

ignorance]

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , VYASAJI

> <vyasatvm@> wrote:

> >

> > Kankan,

> > Sreenadh will brief you regarding the queries putforth , in

the

> mean time, I will narrate , whatever little I know about it.

> > The cawries also known " Kavadies " are 108 in number. Firstly,

> the cawries are are cleansed in pure water. Then it is immersed

> in " Cow's urine " for a day. Then it is kept in " panchagavya " (An

> Ayurvedic preparation available in all Ayurvededic medical

outlets

> of Kerala, made out from five products, obtained from cow) for

> couple of days.Subsequently, it is kept in tender cocanut water

for

> a day. Again in rose water for another day. Then touching these

> Cawries, Ganesha Gayatri is chanted minimum of 1008 (In earlier

> times, 24,000) in the early hours of the day. After that ,

touching

> the cawries, Dakshinamurthy Mantra (some go for Divine

Panchakshari)

> is chanted 1008 times. On an auspicious Muhurth, when Jupiter is

> powerful and well placed from the Ascendant, this is handed over

to

> the disciple by the preceptor.

> > The method of analysis

> > When a querist approach the astrologer, after praying to Lord

> Ganesh and Ishata Devata, and prayer to Almighty citing the

name

> Nakshatra and age of the querist , is made with a request to

grant

> the correct Ascendant that will reflect the querist past, present

and

> future. A handful of cawries are taken. Expunging the multiples of

> 12, the remaining is taken as the " Aruuda " . The rising sign is

> technically called " Udaya Lagna " A comparison is made between the

> Aruda & the rising sign. While conducting the prasna, the

Astrologer

> will carefully notice the Omens technically called " Nimithas " If

the

> Aruuda is in 6-8-12 from rising sign, it is generally believed,

the

> prasna is hindered (Blocked). Exceptions are there. Say, if rising

is

> Taurus & Aruuda is Libra , there is no hindrance to prasna ;

reason

> is both these signs are owned by one and the same planet, that

is,

> Venus .

> > Hope this helps

> > Madhu N Nair

> > BTW--All these cawery purifying , and allied affairs are

things

> of the past. It is now Westerners , who are showing real interest

in

> such things.

> >

> > kankan_73 <kankan_73@> wrote:

> > Dear Sreenadh,

> >

> > Kindly tell me about the procedure of Prasna, how it is done in

> > Kerala. Kindly also tell me about the use of Kavadi (shells) in

> > Prashna and also about the concept of Blocking of Aarooda.

> >

> > Thanks & regards,

> > Kannan

> >

May 12, 2006

Kankan, No matter where Jupiter is, blocking is considered with repect to Aruuda and Risng Sign relation (2/12, 6/8) only.Earlier, the astrologers use to abandon the prasna altogether. The querist is asked to meet the Astrologer on another day.If prasna is blocked,the remedial measures fails to work. It is also an indication of adverse time ahead for the querist.Personally, based on real life experience , I feel such a directive is quite unwarranted. I will explain. Often the Arudha reflects the current situation of the person posing the question. The rising sign or UdayaLagna apparently indicates the future. A shashtashtama (6/ 8) indicates, Disease, Debts,Litigation , Mental Anguish, Insult / loss of reputation, scandals etc and Dwirdwadasa (2/12) between these two is a pointer towards Change of residence/station , foreign travel , expenses, trouble from secret enemies, problems to ones children , in relevant cases

imprisonment, raid in ones business establishment/ residence etc.As I mentioned in my previous message, these are general statements , and should not be taken literally without considering the prasna chart as a whole. Always remember the entire Kerala prasna branch revolves around two things 1, Gulika (Notes---should be calculated as per UttaraKalamrita directive and not BPHS) There exist a difference of about 20* between these two. 2, Bhadhastanas ---- Two meanings are accorded to Bhadastanas viz (a) Obstruction (b) To be possessed The second meaning is widely applied (And often abused or misused) by professional keralite astrologers. Madhu N Nair kankan_73 <kankan_73 wrote: Dear Madhuji and Sreenadhji,Many thanks for your explanations. One more query, Is Jupiters position from Arudha (or Aaroodha) also consider for Blocking/hindrance to Arudha. Also what if the arudha is blocked? what how to proceed next?Thanks & regards,Kannan , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Madhu ji,> That was beautiful! But we should reach an agreement on -> Whether to call it Kavadi, Cowries, or shells or whatever. > Also Aaroodha, Aruuda or Aruda whatever. > Otherwise we will make others confused with 'Arudha' out there. )> Actually I feel that Arudha would be the correct spelling, but alas > that spelling was used by somebody else!!! )> Yes, instead of saying

"Dividing the number of shells with 12 and > taking the remainder", the words "Expunging the multiples of 12", > sounds better. > Instead of the words, 'the rising sign' or 'Udaya Lagna', I think we > can stay with the word 'Lagna' or 'Asc'. As we know in Prasna all > those words mean the same. If we use all different words and > different spelling many may get confused. > By the way what is this :Arudha (AL) others are talking about? And > how they are calculating it? [Deal All, please forgive my ignorance]> Love,> Sreenadh> > , VYASAJI > <vyasatvm@> wrote:> >> > Kankan,> > Sreenadh will brief you regarding the queries putforth , in the > mean time, I will narrate , whatever little I know about it.> > The cawries also known

"Kavadies" are 108 in number. Firstly, > the cawries are are cleansed in pure water. Then it is immersed > in "Cow's urine" for a day. Then it is kept in "panchagavya"(An > Ayurvedic preparation available in all Ayurvededic medical outlets > of Kerala, made out from five products, obtained from cow) for > couple of days.Subsequently, it is kept in tender cocanut water for > a day. Again in rose water for another day. Then touching these > Cawries, Ganesha Gayatri is chanted minimum of 1008 (In earlier > times, 24,000) in the early hours of the day. After that , touching > the cawries, Dakshinamurthy Mantra (some go for Divine Panchakshari) > is chanted 1008 times. On an auspicious Muhurth, when Jupiter is > powerful and well placed from the Ascendant, this is handed over to > the disciple by the preceptor.>

> The method of analysis > > When a querist approach the astrologer, after praying to Lord > Ganesh and Ishata Devata, and prayer to Almighty citing the name > Nakshatra and age of the querist , is made with a request to grant > the correct Ascendant that will reflect the querist past, present and > future. A handful of cawries are taken. Expunging the multiples of > 12, the remaining is taken as the "Aruuda" . The rising sign is > technically called "Udaya Lagna" A comparison is made between the > Aruda & the rising sign. While conducting the prasna, the Astrologer > will carefully notice the Omens technically called " Nimithas" If the > Aruuda is in 6-8-12 from rising sign, it is generally believed, the > prasna is hindered (Blocked). Exceptions are there. Say, if rising is > Taurus &

Aruuda is Libra , there is no hindrance to prasna ; reason > is both these signs are owned by one and the same planet, that is, > Venus .> > Hope this helps> > Madhu N Nair > > BTW--All these cawery purifying , and allied affairs are things > of the past. It is now Westerners , who are showing real interest in > such things.> > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73@> wrote:> > Dear Sreenadh,> > > > Kindly tell me about the procedure of Prasna, how it is done in > > Kerala. Kindly also tell me about the use of Kavadi (shells) in > > Prashna and also about the concept of Blocking of Aarooda.> > > > Thanks & regards,> > Kannan> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

May 12, 2006

Dear Sreenadh, Yes You are correct. Better than cawries the apt word is our "Kavady" Madhu N NairSreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear Madhu ji,That was beautiful! But we should reach an agreement on -Whether to call it Kavadi, Cowries, or shells or whatever. ;)Also Aaroodha, Aruuda or Aruda whatever. ;)Otherwise we will make others confused with 'Arudha' out there. )Actually I feel that Arudha would be the correct spelling, but alas that spelling was used by somebody else!!! )Yes, instead of saying "Dividing the number of shells with 12 and taking the remainder", the words "Expunging the multiples of 12", sounds better. :)Instead of the words, 'the rising sign' or 'Udaya Lagna', I think we can stay with the word 'Lagna' or 'Asc'. As we know in Prasna all

those words mean the same. If we use all different words and different spelling many may get confused. By the way what is this :Arudha (AL) others are talking about? And how they are calculating it? [Deal All, please forgive my ignorance]Love,Sreenadh , VYASAJI <vyasatvm wrote:>> Kankan,> Sreenadh will brief you regarding the queries putforth , in the mean time, I will narrate , whatever little I know about it.> The cawries also known "Kavadies" are 108 in number. Firstly, the cawries are are cleansed in pure water. Then it is immersed in "Cow's urine" for a day. Then it is kept in "panchagavya"(An Ayurvedic preparation available in all Ayurvededic medical outlets of Kerala, made out from five products, obtained from cow) for couple of days.Subsequently, it is kept in tender

cocanut water for a day. Again in rose water for another day. Then touching these Cawries, Ganesha Gayatri is chanted minimum of 1008 (In earlier times, 24,000) in the early hours of the day. After that , touching the cawries, Dakshinamurthy Mantra (some go for Divine Panchakshari) is chanted 1008 times. On an auspicious Muhurth, when Jupiter is powerful and well placed from the Ascendant, this is handed over to the disciple by the preceptor.> The method of analysis > When a querist approach the astrologer, after praying to Lord Ganesh and Ishata Devata, and prayer to Almighty citing the name Nakshatra and age of the querist , is made with a request to grant the correct Ascendant that will reflect the querist past, present and future. A handful of cawries are taken. Expunging the multiples of 12, the remaining is taken as the "Aruuda" . The rising

sign is technically called "Udaya Lagna" A comparison is made between the Aruda & the rising sign. While conducting the prasna, the Astrologer will carefully notice the Omens technically called " Nimithas" If the Aruuda is in 6-8-12 from rising sign, it is generally believed, the prasna is hindered (Blocked). Exceptions are there. Say, if rising is Taurus & Aruuda is Libra , there is no hindrance to prasna ; reason is both these signs are owned by one and the same planet, that is, Venus .> Hope this helps> Madhu N Nair > BTW--All these cawery purifying , and allied affairs are things of the past. It is now Westerners , who are showing real interest in such things.> > > kankan_73 <kankan_73 wrote:> Dear Sreenadh,> > Kindly tell me about the

procedure of Prasna, how it is done in > Kerala. Kindly also tell me about the use of Kavadi (shells) in > Prashna and also about the concept of Blocking of Aarooda.> > Thanks & regards,> Kannan> > > > > > >

May 12, 2006

Dear Kannan ji,

Jupiter has nothing to do with this 'Not the popular' concept

of 'Blocking of Aroodha'. If Mo is 6-8-12 from Ju, then it is a

popular yoga in astrology known as 'Sakata Yoga'. Is it that, the one

that is confusing you?

>Also what if the arudha is blocked? what how to proceed next?

Read the answer given once again. Answer already given. Or I

will state it again. " Suggest the remedies and proceed with the

Prasna " .

Love,

Sreenadh

, " kankan_73 "

<kankan_73 wrote:

>

> Dear Madhuji and Sreenadhji,

>

> Many thanks for your explanations.

> One more query, Is Jupiters position from Arudha (or Aaroodha) also

> consider for Blocking/hindrance to Arudha. Also what if the arudha

> is blocked? what how to proceed next?

>

> Thanks & regards,

> Kannan

>

> , " Sreenadh "

> <sreesog@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Madhu ji,

> > That was beautiful! But we should reach an agreement on -

> > Whether to call it Kavadi, Cowries, or shells or whatever.

> > Also Aaroodha, Aruuda or Aruda whatever.

> > Otherwise we will make others confused with 'Arudha' out

> there. )

> > Actually I feel that Arudha would be the correct spelling, but

> alas

> > that spelling was used by somebody else!!! )

> > Yes, instead of saying " Dividing the number of shells with 12

and

> > taking the remainder " , the words " Expunging the multiples of 12 " ,

> > sounds better.

> > Instead of the words, 'the rising sign' or 'Udaya Lagna', I

think

> we

> > can stay with the word 'Lagna' or 'Asc'. As we know in Prasna all

> > those words mean the same. If we use all different words and

> > different spelling many may get confused.

> > By the way what is this :Arudha (AL) others are talking about?

> And

> > how they are calculating it? [Deal All, please forgive my

> ignorance]

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> > , VYASAJI

> > <vyasatvm@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Kankan,

> > > Sreenadh will brief you regarding the queries putforth , in

> the

> > mean time, I will narrate , whatever little I know about it.

> > > The cawries also known " Kavadies " are 108 in number.

Firstly,

> > the cawries are are cleansed in pure water. Then it is immersed

> > in " Cow's urine " for a day. Then it is kept in " panchagavya " (An

> > Ayurvedic preparation available in all Ayurvededic medical

> outlets

> > of Kerala, made out from five products, obtained from cow) for

> > couple of days.Subsequently, it is kept in tender cocanut water

> for

> > a day. Again in rose water for another day. Then touching these

> > Cawries, Ganesha Gayatri is chanted minimum of 1008 (In earlier

> > times, 24,000) in the early hours of the day. After that ,

> touching

> > the cawries, Dakshinamurthy Mantra (some go for Divine

> Panchakshari)

> > is chanted 1008 times. On an auspicious Muhurth, when Jupiter is

> > powerful and well placed from the Ascendant, this is handed over

> to

> > the disciple by the preceptor.

> > > The method of analysis

> > > When a querist approach the astrologer, after praying to Lord

> > Ganesh and Ishata Devata, and prayer to Almighty citing the

> name

> > Nakshatra and age of the querist , is made with a request to

> grant

> > the correct Ascendant that will reflect the querist past, present

> and

> > future. A handful of cawries are taken. Expunging the multiples

of

> > 12, the remaining is taken as the " Aruuda " . The rising sign is

> > technically called " Udaya Lagna " A comparison is made between the

> > Aruda & the rising sign. While conducting the prasna, the

> Astrologer

> > will carefully notice the Omens technically called " Nimithas " If

> the

> > Aruuda is in 6-8-12 from rising sign, it is generally believed,

> the

> > prasna is hindered (Blocked). Exceptions are there. Say, if

rising

> is

> > Taurus & Aruuda is Libra , there is no hindrance to prasna ;

> reason

> > is both these signs are owned by one and the same planet, that

> is,

> > Venus .

> > > Hope this helps

> > > Madhu N Nair

> > > BTW--All these cawery purifying , and allied affairs are

> things

> > of the past. It is now Westerners , who are showing real interest

> in

> > such things.

> > >

> > > kankan_73 <kankan_73@> wrote:

> > > Dear Sreenadh,

> > >

> > > Kindly tell me about the procedure of Prasna, how it is done in

> > > Kerala. Kindly also tell me about the use of Kavadi (shells) in

> > > Prashna and also about the concept of Blocking of Aarooda.

> > >

> > > Thanks & regards,

> > > Kannan

> > >

May 13, 2006

Dear Madhu ji,

Thanks for the clarifications.

You wrote

2, Bhadhastanas - Two meanings are accorded to Bhadastanas viz

> (a) Obstruction (b) To be possessed

I am not clear on option (b). If you have time, kindly elaborate.

Also importance of Gulika in Prashna.

Thanks & regards,

Kannan

, VYASAJI

<vyasatvm wrote:

>

> Kankan,

> No matter where Jupiter is, blocking is considered with repect

to Aruuda and Risng Sign relation (2/12, 6/8) only.Earlier, the

astrologers use to abandon the prasna altogether. The querist is

asked to meet the Astrologer on another day.If prasna is blocked,the

remedial measures fails to work. It is also an indication of adverse

time ahead for the querist.Personally, based on real life

experience , I feel such a directive is quite unwarranted. I will

explain. Often the Arudha reflects the current situation of the

person posing the question. The rising sign or UdayaLagna apparently

indicates the future. A shashtashtama (6/ 8) indicates, Disease,

Debts,Litigation , Mental Anguish, Insult / loss of reputation,

scandals etc and Dwirdwadasa (2/12) between these two is a pointer

towards Change of residence/station , foreign travel , expenses,

trouble from secret enemies, problems to ones children , in relevant

cases imprisonment, raid in ones business establishment/

> residence etc.As I mentioned in my previous message, these are

general statements , and should not be taken literally without

considering the prasna chart as a whole.

> Always remember the entire Kerala prasna branch revolves around

two things

> 1, Gulika (Notes---should be calculated as per UttaraKalamrita

directive and not BPHS) There exist a difference of about 20*

between these two.

> 2, Bhadhastanas ---- Two meanings are accorded to Bhadastanas

viz

> (a) Obstruction (b) To be possessed

> The second meaning is widely applied (And often abused or

misused) by professional keralite astrologers.

> Madhu N Nair

>

> kankan_73 <kankan_73 wrote:

> Dear Madhuji and Sreenadhji,

>

> Many thanks for your explanations.

> One more query, Is Jupiters position from Arudha (or Aaroodha)

also

> consider for Blocking/hindrance to Arudha. Also what if the arudha

> is blocked? what how to proceed next?

>

> Thanks & regards,

> Kannan

>

> , " Sreenadh "

> <sreesog@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Madhu ji,

> > That was beautiful! But we should reach an agreement on -

> > Whether to call it Kavadi, Cowries, or shells or whatever.

> > Also Aaroodha, Aruuda or Aruda whatever.

> > Otherwise we will make others confused with 'Arudha' out

> there. )

> > Actually I feel that Arudha would be the correct spelling, but

> alas

> > that spelling was used by somebody else!!! )

> > Yes, instead of saying " Dividing the number of shells with 12

and

> > taking the remainder " , the words " Expunging the multiples of

12 " ,

> > sounds better.

> > Instead of the words, 'the rising sign' or 'Udaya Lagna', I

think

> we

> > can stay with the word 'Lagna' or 'Asc'. As we know in Prasna

all

> > those words mean the same. If we use all different words and

> > different spelling many may get confused.

> > By the way what is this :Arudha (AL) others are talking about?

> And

> > how they are calculating it? [Deal All, please forgive my

> ignorance]

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> > , VYASAJI

> > <vyasatvm@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Kankan,

> > > Sreenadh will brief you regarding the queries putforth , in

> the

> > mean time, I will narrate , whatever little I know about it.

> > > The cawries also known " Kavadies " are 108 in number.

Firstly,

> > the cawries are are cleansed in pure water. Then it is

immersed

> > in " Cow's urine " for a day. Then it is kept in " panchagavya " (An

> > Ayurvedic preparation available in all Ayurvededic medical

> outlets

> > of Kerala, made out from five products, obtained from cow) for

> > couple of days.Subsequently, it is kept in tender cocanut water

> for

> > a day. Again in rose water for another day. Then touching these

> > Cawries, Ganesha Gayatri is chanted minimum of 1008 (In earlier

> > times, 24,000) in the early hours of the day. After that ,

> touching

> > the cawries, Dakshinamurthy Mantra (some go for Divine

> Panchakshari)

> > is chanted 1008 times. On an auspicious Muhurth, when Jupiter is

> > powerful and well placed from the Ascendant, this is handed over

> to

> > the disciple by the preceptor.

> > > The method of analysis

> > > When a querist approach the astrologer, after praying to Lord

> > Ganesh and Ishata Devata, and prayer to Almighty citing the

> name

> > Nakshatra and age of the querist , is made with a request to

> grant

> > the correct Ascendant that will reflect the querist past,

present

> and

> > future. A handful of cawries are taken. Expunging the multiples

of

> > 12, the remaining is taken as the " Aruuda " . The rising sign is

> > technically called " Udaya Lagna " A comparison is made between

the

> > Aruda & the rising sign. While conducting the prasna, the

> Astrologer

> > will carefully notice the Omens technically called " Nimithas "

If

> the

> > Aruuda is in 6-8-12 from rising sign, it is generally believed,

> the

> > prasna is hindered (Blocked). Exceptions are there. Say, if

rising

> is

> > Taurus & Aruuda is Libra , there is no hindrance to prasna ;

> reason

> > is both these signs are owned by one and the same planet, that

> is,

> > Venus .

> > > Hope this helps

> > > Madhu N Nair

> > > BTW--All these cawery purifying , and allied affairs are

> things

> > of the past. It is now Westerners , who are showing real

interest

> in

> > such things.

> > >

> > > kankan_73 <kankan_73@> wrote:

> > > Dear Sreenadh,

> > >

> > > Kindly tell me about the procedure of Prasna, how it is done

in

> > > Kerala. Kindly also tell me about the use of Kavadi (shells)

in

> > > Prashna and also about the concept of Blocking of Aarooda.

> > >

> > > Thanks & regards,

> > > Kannan

> > >

May 13, 2006

Dear Sreenadh ji,

Thanks for the help.

I was asking about Jupiter basis my talks with an astrologer some

time back. That day I was sitting with the astrologer for 2-3 hours,

during that time he was conducting Prashna for many clients (at his

place of work). I felt Jupiter's position much important in Prashna

as I heard during that time, statements like 'Jupiter is

hiding', 'God's grace is not there' etc basis Jupiter's positioning

from Aaroodha. may be I misunderstood that with blocking.

I am sorry that I asked the question of 'what next after blocking'

before reading your reply completely. Now I am clear on that.

Thanks & regards,

Kannan

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Kannan ji,

> Jupiter has nothing to do with this 'Not the popular' concept

> of 'Blocking of Aroodha'. If Mo is 6-8-12 from Ju, then it is a

> popular yoga in astrology known as 'Sakata Yoga'. Is it that, the

one

> that is confusing you?

> >Also what if the arudha is blocked? what how to proceed next?

> Read the answer given once again. Answer already given. Or

I

> will state it again. " Suggest the remedies and proceed with the

> Prasna " .

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " kankan_73 "

> <kankan_73@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Madhuji and Sreenadhji,

> >

> > Many thanks for your explanations.

> > One more query, Is Jupiters position from Arudha (or Aaroodha)

also

> > consider for Blocking/hindrance to Arudha. Also what if the

arudha

> > is blocked? what how to proceed next?

> >

> > Thanks & regards,

> > Kannan

> >

> > , " Sreenadh "

> > <sreesog@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Madhu ji,

> > > That was beautiful! But we should reach an agreement on -

> > > Whether to call it Kavadi, Cowries, or shells or whatever.

> > > Also Aaroodha, Aruuda or Aruda whatever.

> > > Otherwise we will make others confused with 'Arudha' out

> > there. )

> > > Actually I feel that Arudha would be the correct spelling,

but

> > alas

> > > that spelling was used by somebody else!!! )

> > > Yes, instead of saying " Dividing the number of shells with 12

> and

> > > taking the remainder " , the words " Expunging the multiples of

12 " ,

> > > sounds better.

> > > Instead of the words, 'the rising sign' or 'Udaya Lagna', I

> think

> > we

> > > can stay with the word 'Lagna' or 'Asc'. As we know in Prasna

all

> > > those words mean the same. If we use all different words

and

> > > different spelling many may get confused.

> > > By the way what is this :Arudha (AL) others are talking

about?

> > And

> > > how they are calculating it? [Deal All, please forgive my

> > ignorance]

> > > Love,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > > , VYASAJI

> > > <vyasatvm@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Kankan,

> > > > Sreenadh will brief you regarding the queries putforth ,

in

> > the

> > > mean time, I will narrate , whatever little I know about it.

> > > > The cawries also known " Kavadies " are 108 in number.

> Firstly,

> > > the cawries are are cleansed in pure water. Then it is

immersed

> > > in " Cow's urine " for a day. Then it is kept

in " panchagavya " (An

> > > Ayurvedic preparation available in all Ayurvededic medical

> > outlets

> > > of Kerala, made out from five products, obtained from cow)

for

> > > couple of days.Subsequently, it is kept in tender cocanut

water

> > for

> > > a day. Again in rose water for another day. Then touching

these

> > > Cawries, Ganesha Gayatri is chanted minimum of 1008 (In

earlier

> > > times, 24,000) in the early hours of the day. After that ,

> > touching

> > > the cawries, Dakshinamurthy Mantra (some go for Divine

> > Panchakshari)

> > > is chanted 1008 times. On an auspicious Muhurth, when Jupiter

is

> > > powerful and well placed from the Ascendant, this is handed

over

> > to

> > > the disciple by the preceptor.

> > > > The method of analysis

> > > > When a querist approach the astrologer, after praying to

Lord

> > > Ganesh and Ishata Devata, and prayer to Almighty citing the

> > name

> > > Nakshatra and age of the querist , is made with a request to

> > grant

> > > the correct Ascendant that will reflect the querist past,

present

> > and

> > > future. A handful of cawries are taken. Expunging the

multiples

> of

> > > 12, the remaining is taken as the " Aruuda " . The rising sign

is

> > > technically called " Udaya Lagna " A comparison is made between

the

> > > Aruda & the rising sign. While conducting the prasna, the

> > Astrologer

> > > will carefully notice the Omens technically called " Nimithas "

If

> > the

> > > Aruuda is in 6-8-12 from rising sign, it is generally

believed,

> > the

> > > prasna is hindered (Blocked). Exceptions are there. Say, if

> rising

> > is

> > > Taurus & Aruuda is Libra , there is no hindrance to prasna ;

> > reason

> > > is both these signs are owned by one and the same planet, that

> > is,

> > > Venus .

> > > > Hope this helps

> > > > Madhu N Nair

> > > > BTW--All these cawery purifying , and allied affairs are

> > things

> > > of the past. It is now Westerners , who are showing real

interest

> > in

> > > such things.

> > > >

> > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73@> wrote:

> > > > Dear Sreenadh,

> > > >

> > > > Kindly tell me about the procedure of Prasna, how it is done

in

> > > > Kerala. Kindly also tell me about the use of Kavadi (shells)

in

> > > > Prashna and also about the concept of Blocking of Aarooda.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & regards,

> > > > Kannan

> > > >

May 13, 2006

Dear Kannan ji,

==>

> statements like 'Jupiter is

> hiding', 'God's grace is not there' etc basis Jupiter's positioning

> from Aaroodha.

<==

Yes, while considering " Daivanukoolya " (God'd grace) Ju is

considered and the astrologer was right on that regard.

==>

>may be I misunderstood that with blocking.

<==

Yes, you did.

Love,

Sreenadh

, " kankan_73 "

<kankan_73 wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadh ji,

>

> Thanks for the help.

>

> I was asking about Jupiter basis my talks with an astrologer some

> time back. That day I was sitting with the astrologer for 2-3

hours,

> during that time he was conducting Prashna for many clients (at his

> place of work). I felt Jupiter's position much important in Prashna

> as I heard during that time, statements like 'Jupiter is

> hiding', 'God's grace is not there' etc basis Jupiter's positioning

> from Aaroodha. may be I misunderstood that with blocking.

>

> I am sorry that I asked the question of 'what next after blocking'

> before reading your reply completely. Now I am clear on that.

>

> Thanks & regards,

> Kannan

>

> , " Sreenadh "

> <sreesog@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kannan ji,

> > Jupiter has nothing to do with this 'Not the popular' concept

> > of 'Blocking of Aroodha'. If Mo is 6-8-12 from Ju, then it is a

> > popular yoga in astrology known as 'Sakata Yoga'. Is it that, the

> one

> > that is confusing you?

> > >Also what if the arudha is blocked? what how to proceed next?

> > Read the answer given once again. Answer already given. Or

> I

> > will state it again. " Suggest the remedies and proceed with the

> > Prasna " .

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> > , " kankan_73 "

> > <kankan_73@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Madhuji and Sreenadhji,

> > >

> > > Many thanks for your explanations.

> > > One more query, Is Jupiters position from Arudha (or Aaroodha)

> also

> > > consider for Blocking/hindrance to Arudha. Also what if the

> arudha

> > > is blocked? what how to proceed next?

> > >

> > > Thanks & regards,

> > > Kannan

> > >

> > > , " Sreenadh "

> > > <sreesog@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Madhu ji,

> > > > That was beautiful! But we should reach an agreement on -

> > > > Whether to call it Kavadi, Cowries, or shells or whatever.

> > > > Also Aaroodha, Aruuda or Aruda whatever.

> > > > Otherwise we will make others confused with 'Arudha' out

> > > there. )

> > > > Actually I feel that Arudha would be the correct spelling,

> but

> > > alas

> > > > that spelling was used by somebody else!!! )

> > > > Yes, instead of saying " Dividing the number of shells with

12

> > and

> > > > taking the remainder " , the words " Expunging the multiples of

> 12 " ,

> > > > sounds better.

> > > > Instead of the words, 'the rising sign' or 'Udaya Lagna', I

> > think

> > > we

> > > > can stay with the word 'Lagna' or 'Asc'. As we know in Prasna

> all

> > > > those words mean the same. If we use all different words

> and

> > > > different spelling many may get confused.

> > > > By the way what is this :Arudha (AL) others are talking

> about?

> > > And

> > > > how they are calculating it? [Deal All, please forgive my

> > > ignorance]

> > > > Love,

> > > > Sreenadh

> > > >

> > > > , VYASAJI

> > > > <vyasatvm@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Kankan,

> > > > > Sreenadh will brief you regarding the queries putforth ,

> in

> > > the

> > > > mean time, I will narrate , whatever little I know about it.

> > > > > The cawries also known " Kavadies " are 108 in number.

> > Firstly,

> > > > the cawries are are cleansed in pure water. Then it is

> immersed

> > > > in " Cow's urine " for a day. Then it is kept

> in " panchagavya " (An

> > > > Ayurvedic preparation available in all Ayurvededic medical

> > > outlets

> > > > of Kerala, made out from five products, obtained from cow)

> for

> > > > couple of days.Subsequently, it is kept in tender cocanut

> water

> > > for

> > > > a day. Again in rose water for another day. Then touching

> these

> > > > Cawries, Ganesha Gayatri is chanted minimum of 1008 (In

> earlier

> > > > times, 24,000) in the early hours of the day. After that ,

> > > touching

> > > > the cawries, Dakshinamurthy Mantra (some go for Divine

> > > Panchakshari)

> > > > is chanted 1008 times. On an auspicious Muhurth, when Jupiter

> is

> > > > powerful and well placed from the Ascendant, this is handed

> over

> > > to

> > > > the disciple by the preceptor.

> > > > > The method of analysis

> > > > > When a querist approach the astrologer, after praying to

> Lord

> > > > Ganesh and Ishata Devata, and prayer to Almighty citing

the

> > > name

> > > > Nakshatra and age of the querist , is made with a request

to

> > > grant

> > > > the correct Ascendant that will reflect the querist past,

> present

> > > and

> > > > future. A handful of cawries are taken. Expunging the

> multiples

> > of

> > > > 12, the remaining is taken as the " Aruuda " . The rising sign

> is

> > > > technically called " Udaya Lagna " A comparison is made between

> the

> > > > Aruda & the rising sign. While conducting the prasna, the

> > > Astrologer

> > > > will carefully notice the Omens technically called "

Nimithas "

> If

> > > the

> > > > Aruuda is in 6-8-12 from rising sign, it is generally

> believed,

> > > the

> > > > prasna is hindered (Blocked). Exceptions are there. Say, if

> > rising

> > > is

> > > > Taurus & Aruuda is Libra , there is no hindrance to prasna ;

> > > reason

> > > > is both these signs are owned by one and the same planet,

that

> > > is,

> > > > Venus .

> > > > > Hope this helps

> > > > > Madhu N Nair

> > > > > BTW--All these cawery purifying , and allied affairs are

> > > things

> > > > of the past. It is now Westerners , who are showing real

> interest

> > > in

> > > > such things.

> > > > >

> > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73@> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Sreenadh,

> > > > >

> > > > > Kindly tell me about the procedure of Prasna, how it is

done

> in

> > > > > Kerala. Kindly also tell me about the use of Kavadi

(shells)

> in

> > > > > Prashna and also about the concept of Blocking of Aarooda.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks & regards,

> > > > > Kannan

> > > > >

May 13, 2006

Dear Sreenadhji and Madhu ji,

Thanks, one more query. Do you use Kavadis. If not then how you are

conducting Prashna. I am asking this because I heard that use of

kavadis require many pooja's/fast/devotion etc. before getting

started. If a learner wants to try a Prashna how can he do that,

without using Kavadi's. Like in a situation where I want to do a

Prashna for myself(assuming that I know some theories), . In this

case the Astrologer and queriest both are same and he cannot use

Kavadi. Kindly reply.

Thanks & regards,

Kannan

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Kannan ji,

> ==>

> > statements like 'Jupiter is

> > hiding', 'God's grace is not there' etc basis Jupiter's

positioning

> > from Aaroodha.

> <==

> Yes, while considering " Daivanukoolya " (God'd grace) Ju is

> considered and the astrologer was right on that regard.

> ==>

> >may be I misunderstood that with blocking.

> <==

> Yes, you did.

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " kankan_73 "

> <kankan_73@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sreenadh ji,

> >

> > Thanks for the help.

> >

> > I was asking about Jupiter basis my talks with an astrologer

some

> > time back. That day I was sitting with the astrologer for 2-3

> hours,

> > during that time he was conducting Prashna for many clients (at

his

> > place of work). I felt Jupiter's position much important in

Prashna

> > as I heard during that time, statements like 'Jupiter is

> > hiding', 'God's grace is not there' etc basis Jupiter's

positioning

> > from Aaroodha. may be I misunderstood that with blocking.

> >

> > I am sorry that I asked the question of 'what next after

blocking'

> > before reading your reply completely. Now I am clear on that.

> >

> > Thanks & regards,

> > Kannan

> >

> > , " Sreenadh "

> > <sreesog@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kannan ji,

> > > Jupiter has nothing to do with this 'Not the popular'

concept

> > > of 'Blocking of Aroodha'. If Mo is 6-8-12 from Ju, then it is

a

> > > popular yoga in astrology known as 'Sakata Yoga'. Is it that,

the

> > one

> > > that is confusing you?

> > > >Also what if the arudha is blocked? what how to proceed next?

> > > Read the answer given once again. Answer already given.

Or

> > I

> > > will state it again. " Suggest the remedies and proceed with

the

> > > Prasna " .

> > > Love,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > > , " kankan_73 "

> > > <kankan_73@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Madhuji and Sreenadhji,

> > > >

> > > > Many thanks for your explanations.

> > > > One more query, Is Jupiters position from Arudha (or

Aaroodha)

> > also

> > > > consider for Blocking/hindrance to Arudha. Also what if the

> > arudha

> > > > is blocked? what how to proceed next?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & regards,

> > > > Kannan

> > > >

> > > > , " Sreenadh "

> > > > <sreesog@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Madhu ji,

> > > > > That was beautiful! But we should reach an agreement on -

> > > > > Whether to call it Kavadi, Cowries, or shells or

whatever.

> > > > > Also Aaroodha, Aruuda or Aruda whatever.

> > > > > Otherwise we will make others confused with 'Arudha' out

> > > > there. )

> > > > > Actually I feel that Arudha would be the correct

spelling,

> > but

> > > > alas

> > > > > that spelling was used by somebody else!!! )

> > > > > Yes, instead of saying " Dividing the number of shells

with

> 12

> > > and

> > > > > taking the remainder " , the words " Expunging the multiples

of

> > 12 " ,

> > > > > sounds better.

> > > > > Instead of the words, 'the rising sign' or 'Udaya Lagna',

I

> > > think

> > > > we

> > > > > can stay with the word 'Lagna' or 'Asc'. As we know in

Prasna

> > all

> > > > > those words mean the same. If we use all different

words

> > and

> > > > > different spelling many may get confused.

> > > > > By the way what is this :Arudha (AL) others are talking

> > about?

> > > > And

> > > > > how they are calculating it? [Deal All, please forgive my

> > > > ignorance]

> > > > > Love,

> > > > > Sreenadh

> > > > >

> > > > > , VYASAJI

> > > > > <vyasatvm@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Kankan,

> > > > > > Sreenadh will brief you regarding the queries

putforth ,

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > mean time, I will narrate , whatever little I know about

it.

> > > > > > The cawries also known " Kavadies " are 108 in number.

> > > Firstly,

> > > > > the cawries are are cleansed in pure water. Then it is

> > immersed

> > > > > in " Cow's urine " for a day. Then it is kept

> > in " panchagavya " (An

> > > > > Ayurvedic preparation available in all Ayurvededic

medical

> > > > outlets

> > > > > of Kerala, made out from five products, obtained from

cow)

> > for

> > > > > couple of days.Subsequently, it is kept in tender cocanut

> > water

> > > > for

> > > > > a day. Again in rose water for another day. Then touching

> > these

> > > > > Cawries, Ganesha Gayatri is chanted minimum of 1008 (In

> > earlier

> > > > > times, 24,000) in the early hours of the day. After that ,

> > > > touching

> > > > > the cawries, Dakshinamurthy Mantra (some go for Divine

> > > > Panchakshari)

> > > > > is chanted 1008 times. On an auspicious Muhurth, when

Jupiter

> > is

> > > > > powerful and well placed from the Ascendant, this is

handed

> > over

> > > > to

> > > > > the disciple by the preceptor.

> > > > > > The method of analysis

> > > > > > When a querist approach the astrologer, after praying to

> > Lord

> > > > > Ganesh and Ishata Devata, and prayer to Almighty citing

> the

> > > > name

> > > > > Nakshatra and age of the querist , is made with a

request

> to

> > > > grant

> > > > > the correct Ascendant that will reflect the querist past,

> > present

> > > > and

> > > > > future. A handful of cawries are taken. Expunging the

> > multiples

> > > of

> > > > > 12, the remaining is taken as the " Aruuda " . The rising

sign

> > is

> > > > > technically called " Udaya Lagna " A comparison is made

between

> > the

> > > > > Aruda & the rising sign. While conducting the prasna, the

> > > > Astrologer

> > > > > will carefully notice the Omens technically called "

> Nimithas "

> > If

> > > > the

> > > > > Aruuda is in 6-8-12 from rising sign, it is generally

> > believed,

> > > > the

> > > > > prasna is hindered (Blocked). Exceptions are there. Say,

if

> > > rising

> > > > is

> > > > > Taurus & Aruuda is Libra , there is no hindrance to

prasna ;

> > > > reason

> > > > > is both these signs are owned by one and the same planet,

> that

> > > > is,

> > > > > Venus .

> > > > > > Hope this helps

> > > > > > Madhu N Nair

> > > > > > BTW--All these cawery purifying , and allied affairs

are

> > > > things

> > > > > of the past. It is now Westerners , who are showing real

> > interest

> > > > in

> > > > > such things.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73@> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Sreenadh,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Kindly tell me about the procedure of Prasna, how it is

> done

> > in

> > > > > > Kerala. Kindly also tell me about the use of Kavadi

> (shells)

> > in

> > > > > > Prashna and also about the concept of Blocking of

Aarooda.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks & regards,

> > > > > > Kannan

> > > > > >

May 13, 2006

Dear Kannan,

I do use Kavadi while doing noramal prasna; or while participating

in Tamboola prasna, Ashmangala prasna etc. It is nomally an usual

tool with any keralite astrologer. But Kavadi is not always a must

for conducting prasna. You can ask the the qurent to -

1) Tell a number and cast aroodha find aroodha and think of chart

ther upon.

2) Based on the first letter of the query you can find aroodha and

think of chart there upon.

3) As told earlier you can use the " Stityaroodha "

4) You can use Lagna and cast prasna based on that.

There are many more methods as well, well supported by the Kerala

style, and astrology Prasna classics.

Love,

Sreenadh

, " kankan_73 "

<kankan_73 wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadhji and Madhu ji,

>

> Thanks, one more query. Do you use Kavadis. If not then how you are

> conducting Prashna. I am asking this because I heard that use of

> kavadis require many pooja's/fast/devotion etc. before getting

> started. If a learner wants to try a Prashna how can he do that,

> without using Kavadi's. Like in a situation where I want to do a

> Prashna for myself(assuming that I know some theories), . In this

> case the Astrologer and queriest both are same and he cannot use

> Kavadi. Kindly reply.

>

> Thanks & regards,

>

> Kannan

>

> , " Sreenadh "

> <sreesog@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kannan ji,

> > ==>

> > > statements like 'Jupiter is

> > > hiding', 'God's grace is not there' etc basis Jupiter's

> positioning

> > > from Aaroodha.

> > <==

> > Yes, while considering " Daivanukoolya " (God'd grace) Ju is

> > considered and the astrologer was right on that regard.

> > ==>

> > >may be I misunderstood that with blocking.

> > <==

> > Yes, you did.

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> > , " kankan_73 "

> > <kankan_73@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sreenadh ji,

> > >

> > > Thanks for the help.

> > >

> > > I was asking about Jupiter basis my talks with an astrologer

> some

> > > time back. That day I was sitting with the astrologer for 2-3

> > hours,

> > > during that time he was conducting Prashna for many clients (at

> his

> > > place of work). I felt Jupiter's position much important in

> Prashna

> > > as I heard during that time, statements like 'Jupiter is

> > > hiding', 'God's grace is not there' etc basis Jupiter's

> positioning

> > > from Aaroodha. may be I misunderstood that with blocking.

> > >

> > > I am sorry that I asked the question of 'what next after

> blocking'

> > > before reading your reply completely. Now I am clear on that.

> > >

> > > Thanks & regards,

> > > Kannan

> > >

> > > , " Sreenadh "

> > > <sreesog@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Kannan ji,

> > > > Jupiter has nothing to do with this 'Not the popular'

> concept

> > > > of 'Blocking of Aroodha'. If Mo is 6-8-12 from Ju, then it is

> a

> > > > popular yoga in astrology known as 'Sakata Yoga'. Is it that,

> the

> > > one

> > > > that is confusing you?

> > > > >Also what if the arudha is blocked? what how to proceed next?

> > > > Read the answer given once again. Answer already

given.

> Or

> > > I

> > > > will state it again. " Suggest the remedies and proceed with

> the

> > > > Prasna " .

> > > > Love,

> > > > Sreenadh

> > > >

> > > > , " kankan_73 "

> > > > <kankan_73@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Madhuji and Sreenadhji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Many thanks for your explanations.

> > > > > One more query, Is Jupiters position from Arudha (or

> Aaroodha)

> > > also

> > > > > consider for Blocking/hindrance to Arudha. Also what if the

> > > arudha

> > > > > is blocked? what how to proceed next?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks & regards,

> > > > > Kannan

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Sreenadh "

> > > > > <sreesog@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Madhu ji,

> > > > > > That was beautiful! But we should reach an agreement on -

> > > > > > Whether to call it Kavadi, Cowries, or shells or

> whatever.

> > > > > > Also Aaroodha, Aruuda or Aruda whatever.

> > > > > > Otherwise we will make others confused with 'Arudha' out

> > > > > there. )

> > > > > > Actually I feel that Arudha would be the correct

> spelling,

> > > but

> > > > > alas

> > > > > > that spelling was used by somebody else!!! )

> > > > > > Yes, instead of saying " Dividing the number of shells

> with

> > 12

> > > > and

> > > > > > taking the remainder " , the words " Expunging the multiples

> of

> > > 12 " ,

> > > > > > sounds better.

> > > > > > Instead of the words, 'the rising sign' or 'Udaya

Lagna',

> I

> > > > think

> > > > > we

> > > > > > can stay with the word 'Lagna' or 'Asc'. As we know in

> Prasna

> > > all

> > > > > > those words mean the same. If we use all different

> words

> > > and

> > > > > > different spelling many may get confused.

> > > > > > By the way what is this :Arudha (AL) others are talking

> > > about?

> > > > > And

> > > > > > how they are calculating it? [Deal All, please forgive my

> > > > > ignorance]

> > > > > > Love,

> > > > > > Sreenadh

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , VYASAJI

> > > > > > <vyasatvm@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Kankan,

> > > > > > > Sreenadh will brief you regarding the queries

> putforth ,

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > mean time, I will narrate , whatever little I know about

> it.

> > > > > > > The cawries also known " Kavadies " are 108 in number.

> > > > Firstly,

> > > > > > the cawries are are cleansed in pure water. Then it is

> > > immersed

> > > > > > in " Cow's urine " for a day. Then it is kept

> > > in " panchagavya " (An

> > > > > > Ayurvedic preparation available in all Ayurvededic

> medical

> > > > > outlets

> > > > > > of Kerala, made out from five products, obtained from

> cow)

> > > for

> > > > > > couple of days.Subsequently, it is kept in tender

cocanut

> > > water

> > > > > for

> > > > > > a day. Again in rose water for another day. Then

touching

> > > these

> > > > > > Cawries, Ganesha Gayatri is chanted minimum of 1008 (In

> > > earlier

> > > > > > times, 24,000) in the early hours of the day. After

that ,

> > > > > touching

> > > > > > the cawries, Dakshinamurthy Mantra (some go for Divine

> > > > > Panchakshari)

> > > > > > is chanted 1008 times. On an auspicious Muhurth, when

> Jupiter

> > > is

> > > > > > powerful and well placed from the Ascendant, this is

> handed

> > > over

> > > > > to

> > > > > > the disciple by the preceptor.

> > > > > > > The method of analysis

> > > > > > > When a querist approach the astrologer, after praying

to

> > > Lord

> > > > > > Ganesh and Ishata Devata, and prayer to Almighty

citing

> > the

> > > > > name

> > > > > > Nakshatra and age of the querist , is made with a

> request

> > to

> > > > > grant

> > > > > > the correct Ascendant that will reflect the querist past,

> > > present

> > > > > and

> > > > > > future. A handful of cawries are taken. Expunging the

> > > multiples

> > > > of

> > > > > > 12, the remaining is taken as the " Aruuda " . The rising

> sign

> > > is

> > > > > > technically called " Udaya Lagna " A comparison is made

> between

> > > the

> > > > > > Aruda & the rising sign. While conducting the prasna, the

> > > > > Astrologer

> > > > > > will carefully notice the Omens technically called "

> > Nimithas "

> > > If

> > > > > the

> > > > > > Aruuda is in 6-8-12 from rising sign, it is generally

> > > believed,

> > > > > the

> > > > > > prasna is hindered (Blocked). Exceptions are there. Say,

> if

> > > > rising

> > > > > is

> > > > > > Taurus & Aruuda is Libra , there is no hindrance to

> prasna ;

> > > > > reason

> > > > > > is both these signs are owned by one and the same planet,

> > that

> > > > > is,

> > > > > > Venus .

> > > > > > > Hope this helps

> > > > > > > Madhu N Nair

> > > > > > > BTW--All these cawery purifying , and allied affairs

> are

> > > > > things

> > > > > > of the past. It is now Westerners , who are showing real

> > > interest

> > > > > in

> > > > > > such things.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73@> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Kindly tell me about the procedure of Prasna, how it is

> > done

> > > in

> > > > > > > Kerala. Kindly also tell me about the use of Kavadi

> > (shells)

> > > in

> > > > > > > Prashna and also about the concept of Blocking of

> Aarooda.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks & regards,

> > > > > > > Kannan

> > > > > > >

May 14, 2006

Dear Sreenadh ji , Thanks a lot for the info . Being in kerala i have seen kavadi is indespensible thing among kerala astrologers. What made me believe is that even kavadi has some special powers like crystal which can make the astrologers mind for mood of prashna . As i can see , the uniquness of kerala is its prashna , it stands out in every form and it is very powerful . prashna with kavadi makes it unique . Moreover , the few astrologers that i have interacted has revelead that they keep kavadi for pooja in temples for 21 days etc , once a year etc , and that time they wont cast any prashna or horoscope thanks, Sreekumar Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear Kannan,I do use Kavadi while doing noramal prasna; or while participating in Tamboola prasna, Ashmangala prasna etc. It is nomally an usual tool with any keralite astrologer. But Kavadi is not always a must for conducting prasna. You can ask the the qurent to -1) Tell a number and cast aroodha find aroodha and think of chart ther upon.2) Based on the first letter of the query you can find aroodha and think of chart there upon.3) As told earlier you can use the "Stityaroodha"4)

You can use Lagna and cast prasna based on that.There are many more methods as well, well supported by the Kerala style, and astrology Prasna classics. :)Love,Sreenadh , "kankan_73" <kankan_73 wrote:>> Dear Sreenadhji and Madhu ji,> > Thanks, one more query. Do you use Kavadis. If not then how you are > conducting Prashna. I am asking this because I heard that use of > kavadis require many pooja's/fast/devotion etc. before getting > started. If a learner wants to try a Prashna how can he do that, > without using Kavadi's. Like in a situation where I want to do a > Prashna for myself(assuming that I know some theories), . In this > case the Astrologer and queriest both are same and he cannot use > Kavadi. Kindly reply.> > Thanks & regards,> > Kannan> > --- In

, "Sreenadh" > <sreesog@> wrote:> >> > Dear Kannan ji,> > ==>> > > statements like 'Jupiter is > > > hiding', 'God's grace is not there' etc basis Jupiter's > positioning > > > from Aaroodha.> > <==> > Yes, while considering "Daivanukoolya" (God'd grace) Ju is > > considered and the astrologer was right on that regard. > > ==>> > >may be I misunderstood that with blocking.> > <==> > Yes, you did. > > Love,> > Sreenadh> > > > , "kankan_73" > > <kankan_73@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > > > > > Thanks for the help. > > > > > > I was asking about Jupiter basis my

talks with an astrologer > some > > > time back. That day I was sitting with the astrologer for 2-3 > > hours, > > > during that time he was conducting Prashna for many clients (at > his > > > place of work). I felt Jupiter's position much important in > Prashna > > > as I heard during that time, statements like 'Jupiter is > > > hiding', 'God's grace is not there' etc basis Jupiter's > positioning > > > from Aaroodha. may be I misunderstood that with blocking.> > > > > > I am sorry that I asked the question of 'what next after > blocking' > > > before reading your reply completely. Now I am clear on that.> > > > > > Thanks & regards,> > > Kannan> > > > > > , "Sreenadh" > > >

<sreesog@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Kannan ji,> > > > Jupiter has nothing to do with this 'Not the popular' > concept > > > > of 'Blocking of Aroodha'. If Mo is 6-8-12 from Ju, then it is > a > > > > popular yoga in astrology known as 'Sakata Yoga'. Is it that, > the > > > one > > > > that is confusing you? > > > > >Also what if the arudha is blocked? what how to proceed next?> > > > Read the answer given once again. Answer already given. > Or > > > I > > > > will state it again. "Suggest the remedies and proceed with > the > > > > Prasna".> > > > Love,> > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > , "kankan_73" >

> > > <kankan_73@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Madhuji and Sreenadhji,> > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for your explanations. > > > > > One more query, Is Jupiters position from Arudha (or > Aaroodha) > > > also > > > > > consider for Blocking/hindrance to Arudha. Also what if the > > > arudha > > > > > is blocked? what how to proceed next?> > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards,> > > > > Kannan> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Sreenadh" > > > > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Madhu ji,> > > > > > That was beautiful! But we

should reach an agreement on -> > > > > > Whether to call it Kavadi, Cowries, or shells or > whatever. > > > > > > Also Aaroodha, Aruuda or Aruda whatever. > > > > > > Otherwise we will make others confused with 'Arudha' out > > > > > there. )> > > > > > Actually I feel that Arudha would be the correct > spelling, > > > but > > > > > alas > > > > > > that spelling was used by somebody else!!! )> > > > > > Yes, instead of saying "Dividing the number of shells > with > > 12 > > > > and > > > > > > taking the remainder", the words "Expunging the multiples > of > > > 12", > > > > > > sounds better. > > > > > > Instead of

the words, 'the rising sign' or 'Udaya Lagna', > I > > > > think > > > > > we > > > > > > can stay with the word 'Lagna' or 'Asc'. As we know in > Prasna > > > all > > > > > > those words mean the same. If we use all different > words > > > and > > > > > > different spelling many may get confused. > > > > > > By the way what is this :Arudha (AL) others are talking > > > about? > > > > > And > > > > > > how they are calculating it? [Deal All, please forgive my > > > > > ignorance]> > > > > > Love,> > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > > > > > , VYASAJI > > > > > >

<vyasatvm@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Kankan,> > > > > > > Sreenadh will brief you regarding the queries > putforth , > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > mean time, I will narrate , whatever little I know about > it.> > > > > > > The cawries also known "Kavadies" are 108 in number. > > > > Firstly, > > > > > > the cawries are are cleansed in pure water. Then it is > > > immersed > > > > > > in "Cow's urine" for a day. Then it is kept > > > in "panchagavya"(An > > > > > > Ayurvedic preparation available in all Ayurvededic > medical > > > > > outlets > > > > > > of Kerala, made out from five

products, obtained from > cow) > > > for > > > > > > couple of days.Subsequently, it is kept in tender cocanut > > > water > > > > > for > > > > > > a day. Again in rose water for another day. Then touching > > > these > > > > > > Cawries, Ganesha Gayatri is chanted minimum of 1008 (In > > > earlier > > > > > > times, 24,000) in the early hours of the day. After that , > > > > > touching > > > > > > the cawries, Dakshinamurthy Mantra (some go for Divine > > > > > Panchakshari) > > > > > > is chanted 1008 times. On an auspicious Muhurth, when > Jupiter > > > is > > > > > > powerful and well placed from the Ascendant, this is > handed > > > over

> > > > > to > > > > > > the disciple by the preceptor.> > > > > > > The method of analysis > > > > > > > When a querist approach the astrologer, after praying to > > > Lord > > > > > > Ganesh and Ishata Devata, and prayer to Almighty citing > > the > > > > > name > > > > > > Nakshatra and age of the querist , is made with a > request > > to > > > > > grant > > > > > > the correct Ascendant that will reflect the querist past, > > > present > > > > > and > > > > > > future. A handful of cawries are taken. Expunging the > > > multiples > > > > of > > > > > > 12, the remaining is

taken as the "Aruuda" . The rising > sign > > > is > > > > > > technically called "Udaya Lagna" A comparison is made > between > > > the > > > > > > Aruda & the rising sign. While conducting the prasna, the > > > > > Astrologer > > > > > > will carefully notice the Omens technically called " > > Nimithas" > > > If > > > > > the > > > > > > Aruuda is in 6-8-12 from rising sign, it is generally > > > believed, > > > > > the > > > > > > prasna is hindered (Blocked). Exceptions are there. Say, > if > > > > rising > > > > > is > > > > > > Taurus & Aruuda is Libra , there is no hindrance to > prasna ; > > > > > reason > > >

> > > is both these signs are owned by one and the same planet, > > that > > > > > is, > > > > > > Venus .> > > > > > > Hope this helps> > > > > > > Madhu N Nair > > > > > > > BTW--All these cawery purifying , and allied affairs > are > > > > > things > > > > > > of the past. It is now Westerners , who are showing real > > > interest > > > > > in > > > > > > such things.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73@> wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh,> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > Kindly tell me about the procedure of Prasna, how it is > > done > > > in > > > > > > > Kerala. Kindly also tell me about the use of Kavadi > > (shells) > > > in > > > > > > > Prashna and also about the concept of Blocking of > Aarooda.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards,> > > > > > > Kannan> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

May 14, 2006

Dear Sreekumar ji,

Any thing can become divine, it you treat it that way.

Kavadi is divine for a Kerala astrologer since he is treating it

that way. This is mainly due to 3 factors.

1) Calculations were/are done with Kavadi. In Kerala even today who

do mathematical calculations using Kavadi faster than calculators at

times.

2) It symbolizes the Guru-sishya relation, the tradition. It is

almost essential and useful in many instances like taking 'Aroodha'.

3) The system of Prasna described in Prasnamarga (i.e. Ashtamangala

Prasna) demands he use of Kavadi, since in Ashtamangala prasna the

108 Kavadi (shells) are divided into 3, and a lot of predictions are

done (especially in temples) based on that. It is an elaborate system

of prediction, and Prasnamarga well depicts that. So if one wants to

conduct an Ashtamangala prasna then, Kavadi becomes essential.

4) When you use something for long, when it is important to you,

when it is given to by your guru, divinity gets attached to it

naturally.

==>

> Moreover , the few astrologers that i have

> interacted has revelead that they keep

> kavadi for pooja in temples for 21 days

> etc , once a year etc , and that time

> they wont cast any prashna or

> horoscope

<==

Yes, we do.

Love,

Sreenadh

, Sreekumar Ambalath

<skumar_astro wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadh ji ,

>

> Thanks a lot for the info . Being in kerala i have seen

> kavadi is indespensible thing among kerala astrologers.

>

> What made me believe is that even kavadi has some

> special powers like crystal which can make the

> astrologers mind for mood of prashna .

>

> As i can see , the uniquness of kerala is its

> prashna , it stands out in every form and it

> is very powerful . prashna with kavadi makes

> it unique .

>

> Moreover , the few astrologers that i have

> interacted has revelead that they keep

> kavadi for pooja in temples for 21 days

> etc , once a year etc , and that time

> they wont cast any prashna or

> horoscope

>

> thanks,

> Sreekumar

>

> Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

> Dear Kannan,

> I do use Kavadi while doing noramal prasna; or while participating

> in Tamboola prasna, Ashmangala prasna etc. It is nomally an usual

> tool with any keralite astrologer. But Kavadi is not always a must

> for conducting prasna. You can ask the the qurent to -

> 1) Tell a number and cast aroodha find aroodha and think of chart

> ther upon.

> 2) Based on the first letter of the query you can find aroodha and

> think of chart there upon.

> 3) As told earlier you can use the " Stityaroodha "

> 4) You can use Lagna and cast prasna based on that.

> There are many more methods as well, well supported by the Kerala

> style, and astrology Prasna classics.

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " kankan_73 "

> <kankan_73@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sreenadhji and Madhu ji,

> >

> > Thanks, one more query. Do you use Kavadis. If not then how you

are

> > conducting Prashna. I am asking this because I heard that use of

> > kavadis require many pooja's/fast/devotion etc. before getting

> > started. If a learner wants to try a Prashna how can he do that,

> > without using Kavadi's. Like in a situation where I want to do a

> > Prashna for myself(assuming that I know some theories), . In this

> > case the Astrologer and queriest both are same and he cannot use

> > Kavadi. Kindly reply.

> >

> > Thanks & regards,

> >

> > Kannan

> >

> > , " Sreenadh "

> > <sreesog@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kannan ji,

> > > ==>

> > > > statements like 'Jupiter is

> > > > hiding', 'God's grace is not there' etc basis Jupiter's

> > positioning

> > > > from Aaroodha.

> > > <==

> > > Yes, while considering " Daivanukoolya " (God'd grace) Ju is

> > > considered and the astrologer was right on that regard.

> > > ==>

> > > >may be I misunderstood that with blocking.

> > > <==

> > > Yes, you did.

> > > Love,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > > , " kankan_73 "

> > > <kankan_73@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sreenadh ji,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for the help.

> > > >

> > > > I was asking about Jupiter basis my talks with an astrologer

> > some

> > > > time back. That day I was sitting with the astrologer for 2-3

> > > hours,

> > > > during that time he was conducting Prashna for many clients

(at

> > his

> > > > place of work). I felt Jupiter's position much important in

> > Prashna

> > > > as I heard during that time, statements like 'Jupiter is

> > > > hiding', 'God's grace is not there' etc basis Jupiter's

> > positioning

> > > > from Aaroodha. may be I misunderstood that with blocking.

> > > >

> > > > I am sorry that I asked the question of 'what next after

> > blocking'

> > > > before reading your reply completely. Now I am clear on that.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & regards,

> > > > Kannan

> > > >

> > > > , " Sreenadh "

> > > > <sreesog@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Kannan ji,

> > > > > Jupiter has nothing to do with this 'Not the popular'

> > concept

> > > > > of 'Blocking of Aroodha'. If Mo is 6-8-12 from Ju, then it

is

> > a

> > > > > popular yoga in astrology known as 'Sakata Yoga'. Is it

that,

> > the

> > > > one

> > > > > that is confusing you?

> > > > > >Also what if the arudha is blocked? what how to proceed

next?

> > > > > Read the answer given once again. Answer already

> given.

> > Or

> > > > I

> > > > > will state it again. " Suggest the remedies and proceed with

> > the

> > > > > Prasna " .

> > > > > Love,

> > > > > Sreenadh

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

, " kankan_73 "

> > > > > <kankan_73@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Madhuji and Sreenadhji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Many thanks for your explanations.

> > > > > > One more query, Is Jupiters position from Arudha (or

> > Aaroodha)

> > > > also

> > > > > > consider for Blocking/hindrance to Arudha. Also what if

the

> > > > arudha

> > > > > > is blocked? what how to proceed next?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks & regards,

> > > > > > Kannan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

, " Sreenadh "

> > > > > > <sreesog@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Madhu ji,

> > > > > > > That was beautiful! But we should reach an agreement

on -

> > > > > > > Whether to call it Kavadi, Cowries, or shells or

> > whatever.

> > > > > > > Also Aaroodha, Aruuda or Aruda whatever.

> > > > > > > Otherwise we will make others confused with 'Arudha'

out

> > > > > > there. )

> > > > > > > Actually I feel that Arudha would be the correct

> > spelling,

> > > > but

> > > > > > alas

> > > > > > > that spelling was used by somebody else!!! )

> > > > > > > Yes, instead of saying " Dividing the number of shells

> > with

> > > 12

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > taking the remainder " , the words " Expunging the

multiples

> > of

> > > > 12 " ,

> > > > > > > sounds better.

> > > > > > > Instead of the words, 'the rising sign' or 'Udaya

> Lagna',

> > I

> > > > > think

> > > > > > we

> > > > > > > can stay with the word 'Lagna' or 'Asc'. As we know in

> > Prasna

> > > > all

> > > > > > > those words mean the same. If we use all different

> > words

> > > > and

> > > > > > > different spelling many may get confused.

> > > > > > > By the way what is this :Arudha (AL) others are

talking

> > > > about?

> > > > > > And

> > > > > > > how they are calculating it? [Deal All, please forgive

my

> > > > > > ignorance]

> > > > > > > Love,

> > > > > > > Sreenadh

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ,

VYASAJI

> > > > > > > <vyasatvm@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Kankan,

> > > > > > > > Sreenadh will brief you regarding the queries

> > putforth ,

> > > > in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > mean time, I will narrate , whatever little I know

about

> > it.

> > > > > > > > The cawries also known " Kavadies " are 108 in

number.

> > > > > Firstly,

> > > > > > > the cawries are are cleansed in pure water. Then it

is

> > > > immersed

> > > > > > > in " Cow's urine " for a day. Then it is kept

> > > > in " panchagavya " (An

> > > > > > > Ayurvedic preparation available in all Ayurvededic

> > medical

> > > > > > outlets

> > > > > > > of Kerala, made out from five products, obtained from

> > cow)

> > > > for

> > > > > > > couple of days.Subsequently, it is kept in tender

> cocanut

> > > > water

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > a day. Again in rose water for another day. Then

> touching

> > > > these

> > > > > > > Cawries, Ganesha Gayatri is chanted minimum of 1008 (In

> > > > earlier

> > > > > > > times, 24,000) in the early hours of the day. After

> that ,

> > > > > > touching

> > > > > > > the cawries, Dakshinamurthy Mantra (some go for Divine

> > > > > > Panchakshari)

> > > > > > > is chanted 1008 times. On an auspicious Muhurth, when

> > Jupiter

> > > > is

> > > > > > > powerful and well placed from the Ascendant, this is

> > handed

> > > > over

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > the disciple by the preceptor.

> > > > > > > > The method of analysis

> > > > > > > > When a querist approach the astrologer, after praying

> to

> > > > Lord

> > > > > > > Ganesh and Ishata Devata, and prayer to Almighty

> citing

> > > the

> > > > > > name

> > > > > > > Nakshatra and age of the querist , is made with a

> > request

> > > to

> > > > > > grant

> > > > > > > the correct Ascendant that will reflect the querist

past,

> > > > present

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > future. A handful of cawries are taken. Expunging the

> > > > multiples

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > 12, the remaining is taken as the " Aruuda " . The rising

> > sign

> > > > is

> > > > > > > technically called " Udaya Lagna " A comparison is made

> > between

> > > > the

> > > > > > > Aruda & the rising sign. While conducting the prasna,

the

> > > > > > Astrologer

> > > > > > > will carefully notice the Omens technically called "

> > > Nimithas "

> > > > If

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > Aruuda is in 6-8-12 from rising sign, it is generally

> > > > believed,

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > prasna is hindered (Blocked). Exceptions are there.

Say,

> > if

> > > > > rising

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > Taurus & Aruuda is Libra , there is no hindrance to

> > prasna ;

> > > > > > reason

> > > > > > > is both these signs are owned by one and the same

planet,

> > > that

> > > > > > is,

> > > > > > > Venus .

> > > > > > > > Hope this helps

> > > > > > > > Madhu N Nair

> > > > > > > > BTW--All these cawery purifying , and allied

affairs

> > are

> > > > > > things

> > > > > > > of the past. It is now Westerners , who are showing

real

> > > > interest

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > such things.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Kindly tell me about the procedure of Prasna, how it

is

> > > done

> > > > in

> > > > > > > > Kerala. Kindly also tell me about the use of Kavadi

> > > (shells)

> > > > in

> > > > > > > > Prashna and also about the concept of Blocking of

> > Aarooda.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks & regards,

> > > > > > > > Kannan

> > > > > > > >

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