1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

[Guest guest]

That is the " whole " " point "  (of Astrology) , krishna ji.

 

We need a wide angle lens as well a long zoom though agfa clickIII might do well

for most occassions.

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

 

Wed, January 13, 2010 12:05:03 PM

Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

 

Astronomical elements are fine in Zoom only.Bharta Mata as seen from Melbourne

and as experienced in Delhi might give different impressions. 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Wed, 1/13/10, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

 

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 1:28 AM

 

 

 

but surely you need long zoom to get know the finner elements.

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

____________ _________ _________ __

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

 

Wed, January 13, 2010 11:51:05 AM

Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

 

From a distance, SHE looks beautiful! Because from a distance we can see MORE of

HER!! ;-)

 

RR_,

 

, " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...>

wrote:

>

> You may be right. being at the feet of bharatmatha,  it is easy to miss the

beauty in her heart. She looks tall from here. 

>  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

>

> Wed, January 13, 2010 11:27:03 AM

> Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

>  

> If Urdu seems 'marsian' (you meant martian, perhaps?) you must really take the

time to enjoy Mirza Ghalib and Bahadurshah Zaffar and other Urdu poets and

writers, Suresh_jee!

>

> It is a beautiful language and if you ever have a chance to hear someone who

is speaking nafees Urdu, you will enjoy the genteel beauty of the language!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbir bains

> >

> > Definitely exact translation is any day better than commentaries,

particularly in this subject. That gives room for exapnasion and better

contemplation on the subject. As far as classics are concerned I follow

only original Sanskrit works. Unfortunately I don't understand Urudu a bit(it

looks marsian to me).

> >

> > Nevertheless, It seems to be a good work and must thank you for the link

also. Whether one follows it or not, it provided some insights into various

systems and probably  life style conditions in those areas

where the system was propagated.

> >

> >

> >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains@ ...>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:38:48 AM

> > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> >  

> > Sir,

> > I am not against any author or book.

> > But transcript is different from translation or a commentary or notes; In

translation, commentary notes. the author's own view point ingredients are

always there.

> > It always helps to have first hand account of the original work.

> > This book is is almost 99.8 percent accurate and exact transcript.

> >

> > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains.

> >

> >

> > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

> >

> > Tue, Jan 12, 2010 8:52 pm

> > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Dear Kulbir Bains,

> >

> > I download the 11MB file from the link you provided.

> >

> > I havn't gone through all the pages (only about first 50 pages). It seems to

be very good work.

> >

> > I have a book by Prof.U.C.Mahajan also. My interest is basicaly academic &

research on various systems.

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > kulbir <kulbirbains@ aol.com>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:07:10 AM

> > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Dear Mishra Ji;

> > Rest assured; We don't follow any unethical approach.

> > Pt Rup Chand Joshi Ji distributed these books on no profit basis.

> > This is exact transcript i.e. only urdu words/script have been changed to

hindi words/script.

> > The post with rar attachment was to send the book to maximum number of

people.

> > We are just carrying forward Pt. Ji's legacy.

> > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains.

> >

> > , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> > >

> > > Group Policy:However, you may announce an

> > > astrological website, or an astrologer, or an

> > > astrological book, product or service. But, do not

> > > make it sound like an advertising, and avoid the

> > > approach of, " He is the best astrologer! " or " This

> > > remedy / yantra / yajna will solve all your

> > > problems! " . Announcing a same website over and over is

> > > prohibited.

> > > With thanks & regards,Â

> > > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > > Â

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > kulbir <kulbirbance@ ...>

> > >

> > > Wed, January 13, 2010 12:09:25 AM

> > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > >

> > > Â

> > > Dear moderators; why is the attachment not being displayed. is it against

some group policy.

> > > in that case i am sorry.

> > > kulbir

> > >

> > > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@ ...>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear members; the earlier post, somehow didn't carry the attachment, so

i am

> > > > re-posting it.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bance.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear friends,

Signals humbleness and all the more without cap.Ego and head work against

gravitational forces.Cosmos always a treat in reality with vivid descriptions

and conceptions.

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Wed, 1/13/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

 

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 1:43 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

ONLY if you are bald and do not have the common-sense to cover your head with a

cap or at least a sun-block cream!

 

Obviously you have not noted that I keep my head low and out of trouble! My ego

lives where my head is! ;-)

 

RR_,

 

, " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...>

wrote:

>

> I might be wrong, but has a vague idea that sometime back you mentioned SUN

Shines (reflects?) on your head

>  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

>

> Wed, January 13, 2010 11:55:46 AM

> Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

>  

> Et TU Bruté?

>

> I am off to buy some razor blades and brylcreem ;-)

>

> RR_,

>

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini ji,

> >

> > You are the queen of cosmos. Nothing can touch you 

> > But someof the others here might get hit and verture " mortal

combat "  

> >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 11:20:42 AM

> > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> >  

> > Dear Suresh_jee,

> >

> > I did not misunderstand you or took your remark personally at all :-)

> >

> > The very essence of NATURE is about recycling!

> >

> > Not sure if you have ever done the experiment of turning kitchen waste into

rich compost that then can be used to grow healthy harvest and bring better and

more nutritive fruits and vegetables to the kitchen!

> >

> > When you next bite into that rosy apple or the juicy tomato -- stop for and

wonder for a second if you are eating something that was raised so healthy by

last month's dinner! And not necessarily from the discarded kitchen scraps from

your kitchen!

> >

> > That is why those who are wary about that should do personal composting and

grow their own vegetables and fruits!

> >

> > I buy mine from the grocery shop and believe in Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam! ;-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > >

> > > don't mistake me. Those who uploaded the files must

have had some good intentions. I am not saying, they should

be deleted, but cleaned.

> > >

> > > There are duplicate files - *.Doc & *.Pdf, 

> > > Pdf files if they don't contain images could be converted to much lighter

doc files.

> > > Files of similar nature could be zipped. It shall reduce the size by

1/10th.

> > > It surely a bit of technical work also.

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > >

> > > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:46:50 AM

> > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > >

> > >  

> > > Suresh_jee,

> > >

> > > I would be perfectly willing to step up to your call for donating blood!

:-)

> > >

> > > The owner/moderator can delete my folder of writings on this forum in the

library/files area.

> > >

> > > We should all make room for newer writers! Even if the thoughts were old

and ancient!!

> > >

> > > PS: Always against stagnant pools of water! Those breed machchaars and

some of them cause MALARIA (Bad AIR!.

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Unfortunately the file section is full. can do

withÃÆ'‚ some cleaning up & zipping.

ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:13:29 AM

> > > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > I think there is a " file " area on this and other fora/forums, Bains jee!

> > > >

> > > > Please get confirmation from Prashant jee or other moderators before you

upload following my suggestion to upload to the library :-)

> > > >

> > > > I have seen a few uploaded files of CLASSICS in the library! Not sure if

that was in this forum or some of the other Jyotish ones or whether the uploaded

ones were from copyrighted translations :-)

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ ....>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mishra Ji;

> > > > > Rest assured; We don't follow any unethical approach.

> > > > > Pt Rup Chand Joshi Ji distributed these books on no profit basis.

> > > > > This is exact transcript i.e. only urdu words/script have been changed

to hindi words/script.

> > > > > The post with rar attachment was to send the book to maximum number of

people.

> > > > > We are just carrying forward Pt. Ji's legacy.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Kulbir Bains.

> > > > >

> > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra @> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Group Policy:However, you may announce an

> > > > > > astrological website, or an astrologer, or an

> > > > > > astrological book, product or service. But, do not

> > > > > > make it sound like an advertising, and avoid the

> > > > > > approach of, " He is the best astrologer! " or " This

> > > > > > remedy / yantra / yajna will solve all your

> > > > > > problems! " . Announcing a same website over and over is

> > > > > > prohibited.

> > > > > > With thanks &

regards,ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÃÃ\

¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ 

> > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\

‚ 

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > kulbir <kulbirbance@ >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Wed, January 13, 2010 12:09:25 AM

> > > > > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\

‚ 

> > > > > > Dear moderators; why is the attachment not being displayed. is it

against some group policy.

> > > > > > in that case i am sorry.

> > > > > > kulbir

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , kulbir bance

<kulbirbance@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear members; the earlier post, somehow didn't carry the

attachment, so i am

> > > > > > > re-posting it.

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Kulbir Bance.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri Suresh ji,

As I said earlied I was carried very much by the Game of 13 and this ClickIII

art!.My Sun(in 8thH) father never interfered.Ofcourse I pleased him as I could

get into AIS through my ClickIII and with several momentos in T50 andT20s.

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Wed, 1/13/10, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote:

 

 

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag

Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 2:04 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

That is the " whole " " point "  (of Astrology) , krishna ji.

 

We need a wide angle lens as well a long zoom though agfa clickIII might do well

for most occassions.

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

 

Wed, January 13, 2010 12:05:03 PM

Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

 

Astronomical elements are fine in Zoom only.Bharta Mata as seen from Melbourne

and as experienced in Delhi might give different impressions. 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Wed, 1/13/10, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

 

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 1:28 AM

 

 

 

but surely you need long zoom to get know the finner elements.

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

____________ _________ _________ __

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

 

Wed, January 13, 2010 11:51:05 AM

Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

 

From a distance, SHE looks beautiful! Because from a distance we can see MORE of

HER!! ;-)

 

RR_,

 

, " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...>

wrote:

>

> You may be right. being at the feet of bharatmatha,  it is easy to miss the

beauty in her heart. She looks tall from here. 

>  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

>

> Wed, January 13, 2010 11:27:03 AM

> Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

>  

> If Urdu seems 'marsian' (you meant martian, perhaps?) you must really take the

time to enjoy Mirza Ghalib and Bahadurshah Zaffar and other Urdu poets and

writers, Suresh_jee!

>

> It is a beautiful language and if you ever have a chance to hear someone who

is speaking nafees Urdu, you will enjoy the genteel beauty of the language!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbir bains

> >

> > Definitely exact translation is any day better than commentaries,

particularly in this subject. That gives room for exapnasion and better

contemplation on the subject. As far as classics are concerned I follow

only original Sanskrit works. Unfortunately I don't understand Urudu a bit(it

looks marsian to me).

> >

> > Nevertheless, It seems to be a good work and must thank you for the link

also. Whether one follows it or not, it provided some insights into various

systems and probably  life style conditions in those areas

where the system was propagated.

> >

> >

> >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains@ ...>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:38:48 AM

> > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> >  

> > Sir,

> > I am not against any author or book.

> > But transcript is different from translation or a commentary or notes; In

translation, commentary notes. the author's own view point ingredients are

always there.

> > It always helps to have first hand account of the original work.

> > This book is is almost 99.8 percent accurate and exact transcript.

> >

> > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains.

> >

> >

> > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

> >

> > Tue, Jan 12, 2010 8:52 pm

> > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Dear Kulbir Bains,

> >

> > I download the 11MB file from the link you provided.

> >

> > I havn't gone through all the pages (only about first 50 pages). It seems to

be very good work.

> >

> > I have a book by Prof.U.C.Mahajan also. My interest is basicaly academic &

research on various systems.

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > kulbir <kulbirbains@ aol.com>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:07:10 AM

> > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Dear Mishra Ji;

> > Rest assured; We don't follow any unethical approach.

> > Pt Rup Chand Joshi Ji distributed these books on no profit basis.

> > This is exact transcript i.e. only urdu words/script have been changed to

hindi words/script.

> > The post with rar attachment was to send the book to maximum number of

people.

> > We are just carrying forward Pt. Ji's legacy.

> > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains.

> >

> > , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> > >

> > > Group Policy:However, you may announce an

> > > astrological website, or an astrologer, or an

> > > astrological book, product or service. But, do not

> > > make it sound like an advertising, and avoid the

> > > approach of, " He is the best astrologer! " or " This

> > > remedy / yantra / yajna will solve all your

> > > problems! " . Announcing a same website over and over is

> > > prohibited.

> > > With thanks & regards,Â

> > > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > > Â

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > kulbir <kulbirbance@ ...>

> > >

> > > Wed, January 13, 2010 12:09:25 AM

> > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > >

> > > Â

> > > Dear moderators; why is the attachment not being displayed. is it against

some group policy.

> > > in that case i am sorry.

> > > kulbir

> > >

> > > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@ ...>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear members; the earlier post, somehow didn't carry the attachment, so

i am

> > > > re-posting it.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bance.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

But dear brothers -- if you are bent upon using the lenticular analogy, while

slower and less convenient, a zoom lens is way lower in quality of the image

than a single focal length lens! Dedication sure is way supreme to convenience!

Even when one is trying to follow a ritual or remedy!

 

I personally prefer the 620 format of film (Kodak Brownie Box) than the more

square 120 format (Agfa Clik III) or the film format that was/is used by

Rolleiflex/Rolleicord/Seagull/Bronica/Hasselblad cameras!

 

Of course there is the 8x10 and larger formats such as the breath-taking shots

taken by Ansel Adams and the likes of him!

 

But how much larger the format of the film that captures the IMAGE can get

beyond ASTROLOGY? With all the colours and details and the ability to EDIT the

image in the darkroom, not to cheat but to bring out the details and beauty of

MA Nature even more?

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

, " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag

wrote:

>

> That is the " whole " " point "  (of Astrology) , krishna ji.

>

> We need a wide angle lens as well a long zoom though agfa clickIII might do

well for most occassions.

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

>

> Wed, January 13, 2010 12:05:03 PM

> Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

>  

> Astronomical elements are fine in Zoom only.Bharta Mata as seen from Melbourne

and as experienced in Delhi might give different impressions. 

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

>

> Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

> Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

> Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 1:28 AM

>

>  

>

> but surely you need long zoom to get know the finner elements.

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

>

> Wed, January 13, 2010 11:51:05 AM

> Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

>  

> From a distance, SHE looks beautiful! Because from a distance we can see MORE

of HER!! ;-)

>

> RR_,

>

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> >

> > You may be right. being at the feet of bharatmatha,  it is easy to miss

the beauty in her heart. She looks tall from here. 

> >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 11:27:03 AM

> > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> >  

> > If Urdu seems 'marsian' (you meant martian, perhaps?) you must really take

the time to enjoy Mirza Ghalib and Bahadurshah Zaffar and other Urdu poets and

writers, Suresh_jee!

> >

> > It is a beautiful language and if you ever have a chance to hear someone who

is speaking nafees Urdu, you will enjoy the genteel beauty of the language!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kulbir bains

> > >

> > > Definitely exact translation is any day better than commentaries,

particularly in this subject. That gives room for exapnasion and better

contemplation on the subject. As far as classics are concerned I follow

only original Sanskrit works. Unfortunately I don't understand Urudu a bit(it

looks marsian to me).

> > >

> > > Nevertheless, It seems to be a good work and must thank you for the link

also. Whether one follows it or not, it provided some insights into various

systems and probably  life style conditions in those areas

where the system was propagated.

> > >

> > >

> > >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains@ ...>

> > >

> > > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:38:48 AM

> > > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > >

> > >  

> > > Sir,

> > > I am not against any author or book.

> > > But transcript is different from translation or a commentary or notes; In

translation, commentary notes. the author's own view point ingredients are

always there.

> > > It always helps to have first hand account of the original work.

> > > This book is is almost 99.8 percent accurate and exact transcript.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains.

> > >

> > >

> > > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

> > >

> > > Tue, Jan 12, 2010 8:52 pm

> > > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > >

> > > Dear Kulbir Bains,

> > >

> > > I download the 11MB file from the link you provided.

> > >

> > > I havn't gone through all the pages (only about first 50 pages). It seems

to be very good work.

> > >

> > > I have a book by Prof.U.C.Mahajan also. My interest is basicaly academic &

research on various systems.

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > kulbir <kulbirbains@ aol.com>

> > >

> > > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:07:10 AM

> > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > >

> > > Dear Mishra Ji;

> > > Rest assured; We don't follow any unethical approach.

> > > Pt Rup Chand Joshi Ji distributed these books on no profit basis.

> > > This is exact transcript i.e. only urdu words/script have been changed to

hindi words/script.

> > > The post with rar attachment was to send the book to maximum number of

people.

> > > We are just carrying forward Pt. Ji's legacy.

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains.

> > >

> > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Group Policy:However, you may announce an

> > > > astrological website, or an astrologer, or an

> > > > astrological book, product or service. But, do not

> > > > make it sound like an advertising, and avoid the

> > > > approach of, " He is the best astrologer! " or " This

> > > > remedy / yantra / yajna will solve all your

> > > > problems! " . Announcing a same website over and over is

> > > > prohibited.

> > > > With thanks & regards,ÃÆ'‚

> > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > > > ÃÆ'‚

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > kulbir <kulbirbance@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Wed, January 13, 2010 12:09:25 AM

> > > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚

> > > > Dear moderators; why is the attachment not being displayed. is it

against some group policy.

> > > > in that case i am sorry.

> > > > kulbir

> > > >

> > > > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@

....> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear members; the earlier post, somehow didn't carry the attachment,

so i am

> > > > > re-posting it.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Kulbir Bance.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri Rohini Ji and Sursh Ji

Lal Kitab,observed to be more of tantric influenced was only a passing

reference.Where as Jyotish covers for Tazik also is necessary course.Original

sctipt in Persian.

Tajik transalated by Pandit E.S Neelakant Sastrgal was having origin in urdu

and Persian.Today ofcourse we take interest in Varshaphal.

" Ittesal " and " Muntha " always signified fulfilment of wish.desire.

How did Omar Quyyam is not put on the same pedestal?Urdu certainly a sweet

language and the beauty lies in Ghazals,Mushairas and Quawwalis.

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Wed, 1/13/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

 

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 12:57 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

If Urdu seems 'marsian' (you meant martian, perhaps?) you must really take the

time to enjoy Mirza Ghalib and Bahadurshah Zaffar and other Urdu poets and

writers, Suresh_jee!

 

It is a beautiful language and if you ever have a chance to hear someone who is

speaking nafees Urdu, you will enjoy the genteel beauty of the language!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Kulbir bains

>

> Definitely exact translation is any day better than commentaries, particularly

in this subject. That gives room for exapnasion and better contemplation on the

subject. As far as classics are concerned I follow only original Sanskrit

works. Unfortunately I don't understand Urudu a bit(it looks marsian to me).

>

> Nevertheless, It seems to be a good work and must thank you for the link also.

Whether one follows it or not, it provided some insights into various systems

and probably  life style conditions in those areas where the system was

propagated.

>

>

>  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains@ ...>

>

> Wed, January 13, 2010 10:38:48 AM

> Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

>  

> Sir,

> I am not against any author or book.

> But transcript is different from translation or a commentary or notes; In

translation, commentary notes. the author's own view point ingredients are

always there.

> It always helps to have first hand account of the original work.

> This book is is almost 99.8 percent accurate and exact transcript.

>

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains.

>

>

> Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

>

> Tue, Jan 12, 2010 8:52 pm

> Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

> Dear Kulbir Bains,

>

> I download the 11MB file from the link you provided.

>

> I havn't gone through all the pages (only about first 50 pages). It seems to

be very good work.

>

> I have a book by Prof.U.C.Mahajan also. My interest is basicaly academic &

research on various systems.

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> kulbir <kulbirbains@ aol.com>

>

> Wed, January 13, 2010 10:07:10 AM

> Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

> Dear Mishra Ji;

> Rest assured; We don't follow any unethical approach.

> Pt Rup Chand Joshi Ji distributed these books on no profit basis.

> This is exact transcript i.e. only urdu words/script have been changed to

hindi words/script.

> The post with rar attachment was to send the book to maximum number of people.

> We are just carrying forward Pt. Ji's legacy.

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains.

>

> , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> >

> > Group Policy:However, you may announce an

> > astrological website, or an astrologer, or an

> > astrological book, product or service. But, do not

> > make it sound like an advertising, and avoid the

> > approach of, " He is the best astrologer! " or " This

> > remedy / yantra / yajna will solve all your

> > problems! " . Announcing a same website over and over is

> > prohibited.

> > With thanks & regards,Â

> > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > kulbir <kulbirbance@ ...>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 12:09:25 AM

> > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Â

> > Dear moderators; why is the attachment not being displayed. is it against

some group policy.

> > in that case i am sorry.

> > kulbir

> >

> > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@ ....>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear members; the earlier post, somehow didn't carry the attachment, so i

am

> > > re-posting it.

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bance.

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I. for one, have never mixed cricket with astrology!

 

The former is an insect and the latter is anything but!

 

RR_,

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Sirs,

> Game of 13 I mean about cricket could be understood by me as Leg Unpire.Mtach

Umpire we have genarally does not zoom.Let's mind and no worry.Iam on jo in any

case as it did earlier " will I get married or Not " ?

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Wed, 1/13/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

> Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

> Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 1:40 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Okay Dada! Suresh and I were kind of counting on you to keep the watch! Now

the three of us are in big trouble!

>

> So, when I was watching the mild form of Adonis this morning, the most

beautiful sight in a long time, since the sighting of the Aurora Borealis -- I

was reminded of something I wrote long ago where I placed cancer and leo (Ma

Baba) in the middle where the Throne is! And naturally the planets took their

seats on both sides of the LIGHTS! As per their BODE distribution!

>

> 11 12 1 2 3 [4 5] 6 7 8 9 10

>

> Outside inwards: saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Venus, Mercury [LIGHTS] mercury,

venus, mars, jupiter and saturn

>

> I had always been a bit queasy about treating the LIGHTS as planets, just as

with the nodes and son of saturn!

>

> Think about that, rather than ask lazily as most are tempted to ...!

>

> RR_,

>

> , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > Queens do contribute for the Goups....... ...oooooooo oo

> >

> >

> > Vattem Krishnan

> > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > (For all counseling services)

> > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> >  

> >

> > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ ...>

> > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 1:04 AM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Rohini ji,

> >

> > You are the queen of cosmos. Nothing can touch you 

> > But someof the others here might get hit and verture " mortal combat "  

> >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 11:20:42 AM

> > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> >  

> > Dear Suresh_jee,

> >

> > I did not misunderstand you or took your remark personally at all :-)

> >

> > The very essence of NATURE is about recycling!

> >

> > Not sure if you have ever done the experiment of turning kitchen waste into

rich compost that then can be used to grow healthy harvest and bring better and

more nutritive fruits and vegetables to the kitchen!

> >

> > When you next bite into that rosy apple or the juicy tomato -- stop for and

wonder for a second if you are eating something that was raised so healthy by

last month's dinner! And not necessarily from the discarded kitchen scraps from

your kitchen!

> >

> > That is why those who are wary about that should do personal composting and

grow their own vegetables and fruits!

> >

> > I buy mine from the grocery shop and believe in Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam! ;-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > >

> > > don't mistake me. Those who uploaded the files must have

had some good intentions. I am not saying, they should be deleted, but

cleaned.

> > >

> > > There are duplicate files - *.Doc & *.Pdf, 

> > > Pdf files if they don't contain images could be converted to much lighter

doc files.

> > > Files of similar nature could be zipped. It shall reduce the size by

1/10th.

> > > It surely a bit of technical work also.

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > >

> > > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:46:50 AM

> > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > >

> > >  

> > > Suresh_jee,

> > >

> > > I would be perfectly willing to step up to your call for donating blood!

:-)

> > >

> > > The owner/moderator can delete my folder of writings on this forum in the

library/files area.

> > >

> > > We should all make room for newer writers! Even if the thoughts were old

and ancient!!

> > >

> > > PS: Always against stagnant pools of water! Those breed machchaars and

some of them cause MALARIA (Bad AIR!.

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Unfortunately the file section is full. can do

withÃÆ'‚ some cleaning up & zipping. ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:13:29 AM

> > > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > I think there is a " file " area on this and other fora/forums, Bains jee!

> > > >

> > > > Please get confirmation from Prashant jee or other moderators before you

upload following my suggestion to upload to the library :-)

> > > >

> > > > I have seen a few uploaded files of CLASSICS in the library! Not sure if

that was in this forum or some of the other Jyotish ones or whether the uploaded

ones were from copyrighted translations :-)

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ ...>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mishra Ji;

> > > > > Rest assured; We don't follow any unethical approach.

> > > > > Pt Rup Chand Joshi Ji distributed these books on no profit basis.

> > > > > This is exact transcript i.e. only urdu words/script have been changed

to hindi words/script.

> > > > > The post with rar attachment was to send the book to maximum number of

people.

> > > > > We are just carrying forward Pt. Ji's legacy.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Kulbir Bains.

> > > > >

> > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra @> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Group Policy:However, you may announce an

> > > > > > astrological website, or an astrologer, or an

> > > > > > astrological book, product or service. But, do not

> > > > > > make it sound like an advertising, and avoid the

> > > > > > approach of, " He is the best astrologer! " or " This

> > > > > > remedy / yantra / yajna will solve all your

> > > > > > problems! " . Announcing a same website over and over is

> > > > > > prohibited.

> > > > > > With thanks & regards,ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > kulbir <kulbirbance@ >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Wed, January 13, 2010 12:09:25 AM

> > > > > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > > > Dear moderators; why is the attachment not being displayed. is it

against some group policy.

> > > > > > in that case i am sorry.

> > > > > > kulbir

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , kulbir bance

<kulbirbance@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear members; the earlier post, somehow didn't carry the

attachment, so i am

> > > > > > > re-posting it.

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Kulbir Bance.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

I am not going to pay you anything more than I have already as per our original

contract! :-)

 

 

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Dear friends,

> Signals humbleness and all the more without cap.Ego and head work against

gravitational forces.Cosmos always a treat in reality with vivid descriptions

and conceptions.

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Wed, 1/13/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

> Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

> Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 1:43 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> ONLY if you are bald and do not have the common-sense to cover your head with

a cap or at least a sun-block cream!

>

> Obviously you have not noted that I keep my head low and out of trouble! My

ego lives where my head is! ;-)

>

> RR_,

>

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> >

> > I might be wrong, but has a vague idea that sometime back you mentioned

SUN Shines (reflects?) on your head

> >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 11:55:46 AM

> > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> >  

> > Et TU Bruté?

> >

> > I am off to buy some razor blades and brylcreem ;-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > >

> > > You are the queen of cosmos. Nothing can touch you 

> > > But someof the others here might get hit and verture " mortal

combat "  

> > >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > >

> > > Wed, January 13, 2010 11:20:42 AM

> > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > >

> > >  

> > > Dear Suresh_jee,

> > >

> > > I did not misunderstand you or took your remark personally at all :-)

> > >

> > > The very essence of NATURE is about recycling!

> > >

> > > Not sure if you have ever done the experiment of turning kitchen waste

into rich compost that then can be used to grow healthy harvest and bring better

and more nutritive fruits and vegetables to the kitchen!

> > >

> > > When you next bite into that rosy apple or the juicy tomato -- stop for

and wonder for a second if you are eating something that was raised so healthy

by last month's dinner! And not necessarily from the discarded kitchen scraps

from your kitchen!

> > >

> > > That is why those who are wary about that should do personal composting

and grow their own vegetables and fruits!

> > >

> > > I buy mine from the grocery shop and believe in Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam! ;-)

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > >

> > > > don't mistake me.ÃÆ'‚ Those who uploaded the files must

have hadÃÆ'‚ some good intentions. I am not saying, they should

be deleted, but cleaned.

> > > >

> > > > There are duplicate files - *.Doc & *.Pdf,ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > Pdf files if they don't contain images could be converted to much

lighter doc files.

> > > > Files of similar nature could be zipped. It shall reduce the size by

1/10th.

> > > > ItÃÆ'‚ surely a bit of technical work also.

> > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:46:50 AM

> > > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > Suresh_jee,

> > > >

> > > > I would be perfectly willing to step up to your call for donating blood!

:-)

> > > >

> > > > The owner/moderator can delete my folder of writings on this forum in

the library/files area.

> > > >

> > > > We should all make room for newer writers! Even if the thoughts were old

and ancient!!

> > > >

> > > > PS: Always against stagnant pools of water! Those breed machchaars and

some of them cause MALARIA (Bad AIR!.

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Unfortunately the file section is full. can do

withÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ some cleaning up & zipping.

ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:13:29 AM

> > > > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > > I think there is a " file " area on this and other fora/forums, Bains

jee!

> > > > >

> > > > > Please get confirmation from Prashant jee or other moderators before

you upload following my suggestion to upload to the library :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > I have seen a few uploaded files of CLASSICS in the library! Not sure

if that was in this forum or some of the other Jyotish ones or whether the

uploaded ones were from copyrighted translations :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@

.....> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Mishra Ji;

> > > > > > Rest assured; We don't follow any unethical approach.

> > > > > > Pt Rup Chand Joshi Ji distributed these books on no profit basis.

> > > > > > This is exact transcript i.e. only urdu words/script have been

changed to hindi words/script.

> > > > > > The post with rar attachment was to send the book to maximum number

of people.

> > > > > > We are just carrying forward Pt. Ji's legacy.

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Kulbir Bains.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra @> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Group Policy:However, you may announce an

> > > > > > > astrological website, or an astrologer, or an

> > > > > > > astrological book, product or service. But, do not

> > > > > > > make it sound like an advertising, and avoid the

> > > > > > > approach of, " He is the best astrologer! " or " This

> > > > > > > remedy / yantra / yajna will solve all your

> > > > > > > problems! " . Announcing a same website over and over is

> > > > > > > prohibited.

> > > > > > > With thanks &

regards,ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'Ã\

¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ 

> > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\

‚ 

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > kulbir <kulbirbance@ >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Wed, January 13, 2010 12:09:25 AM

> > > > > > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\

‚ 

> > > > > > > Dear moderators; why is the attachment not being displayed. is it

against some group policy.

> > > > > > > in that case i am sorry.

> > > > > > > kulbir

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , kulbir bance

<kulbirbance@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear members; the earlier post, somehow didn't carry the

attachment, so i am

> > > > > > > > re-posting it.

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > Kulbir Bance.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Jyotish as practiced and accepted today has become more inclusive than

Astrology! It has embraced Indian and mid-eastern disciplines and other

disciplines!

 

Now, I will leave it to you and Suresh ji to make JYOTISHIS more inclusive and

accepting ... ;-)

 

I am still waiting for more information on the ICAS Database! :-)

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Rohini Ji and Sursh Ji

> Lal Kitab,observed to be more of tantric influenced was only a passing

reference.Where as Jyotish covers for Tazik also is necessary course.Original

sctipt in Persian.

> Tajik transalated by Pandit E.S Neelakant Sastrgal was having origin in urdu

and Persian.Today ofcourse we take interest in Varshaphal.

> " Ittesal " and " Muntha " always signified fulfilment of wish.desire.

> How did Omar Quyyam is not put on the same pedestal?Urdu certainly a sweet

language and the beauty lies in Ghazals,Mushairas and Quawwalis.

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Wed, 1/13/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

> Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

> Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 12:57 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> If Urdu seems 'marsian' (you meant martian, perhaps?) you must really take the

time to enjoy Mirza Ghalib and Bahadurshah Zaffar and other Urdu poets and

writers, Suresh_jee!

>

> It is a beautiful language and if you ever have a chance to hear someone who

is speaking nafees Urdu, you will enjoy the genteel beauty of the language!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbir bains

> >

> > Definitely exact translation is any day better than commentaries,

particularly in this subject. That gives room for exapnasion and better

contemplation on the subject. As far as classics are concerned I follow only

original Sanskrit works. Unfortunately I don't understand Urudu a bit(it looks

marsian to me).

> >

> > Nevertheless, It seems to be a good work and must thank you for the link

also. Whether one follows it or not, it provided some insights into various

systems and probably  life style conditions in those areas where the

system was propagated.

> >

> >

> >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains@ ...>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:38:48 AM

> > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> >  

> > Sir,

> > I am not against any author or book.

> > But transcript is different from translation or a commentary or notes; In

translation, commentary notes. the author's own view point ingredients are

always there.

> > It always helps to have first hand account of the original work.

> > This book is is almost 99.8 percent accurate and exact transcript.

> >

> > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains.

> >

> >

> > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

> >

> > Tue, Jan 12, 2010 8:52 pm

> > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Dear Kulbir Bains,

> >

> > I download the 11MB file from the link you provided.

> >

> > I havn't gone through all the pages (only about first 50 pages). It seems to

be very good work.

> >

> > I have a book by Prof.U.C.Mahajan also. My interest is basicaly academic &

research on various systems.

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > kulbir <kulbirbains@ aol.com>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:07:10 AM

> > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Dear Mishra Ji;

> > Rest assured; We don't follow any unethical approach.

> > Pt Rup Chand Joshi Ji distributed these books on no profit basis.

> > This is exact transcript i.e. only urdu words/script have been changed to

hindi words/script.

> > The post with rar attachment was to send the book to maximum number of

people.

> > We are just carrying forward Pt. Ji's legacy.

> > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains.

> >

> > , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> > >

> > > Group Policy:However, you may announce an

> > > astrological website, or an astrologer, or an

> > > astrological book, product or service. But, do not

> > > make it sound like an advertising, and avoid the

> > > approach of, " He is the best astrologer! " or " This

> > > remedy / yantra / yajna will solve all your

> > > problems! " . Announcing a same website over and over is

> > > prohibited.

> > > With thanks & regards,Â

> > > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > > Â

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > kulbir <kulbirbance@ ...>

> > >

> > > Wed, January 13, 2010 12:09:25 AM

> > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > >

> > > Â

> > > Dear moderators; why is the attachment not being displayed. is it against

some group policy.

> > > in that case i am sorry.

> > > kulbir

> > >

> > > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@

.....> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear members; the earlier post, somehow didn't carry the attachment, so

i am

> > > > re-posting it.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bance.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Brothers.

It is true.Sure and undoubtedly !while the biginnig was so.But when I went to

see Nishad Gardens: " there is the 8x10 and larger formats such as the

breath-taking shots " was a prized possession.Even now I have it but in dumb

state due to lack of rolls.

I still believe lenticular analogy has some thing more creativity than today

" gizmos "

No doubt in today's parlance Image and Format are getting inter related even

though dark room efforts are fading to give room to Photo Smart Modes.

Thankx to technolgy that drives the beasts and helps to understand Cosmos.

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Wed, 1/13/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

 

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 2:23 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

But dear brothers -- if you are bent upon using the lenticular analogy, while

slower and less convenient, a zoom lens is way lower in quality of the image

than a single focal length lens! Dedication sure is way supreme to convenience!

Even when one is trying to follow a ritual or remedy!

 

I personally prefer the 620 format of film (Kodak Brownie Box) than the more

square 120 format (Agfa Clik III) or the film format that was/is used by

Rolleiflex/Rolleico rd/Seagull/ Bronica/Hasselbl ad cameras!

 

Of course there is the 8x10 and larger formats such as the breath-taking shots

taken by Ansel Adams and the likes of him!

 

But how much larger the format of the film that captures the IMAGE can get

beyond ASTROLOGY? With all the colours and details and the ability to EDIT the

image in the darkroom, not to cheat but to bring out the details and beauty of

MA Nature even more?

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...>

wrote:

>

> That is the " whole " " point "  (of Astrology) , krishna ji.

>

> We need a wide angle lens as well a long zoom though agfa clickIII might do

well for most occassions.

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

>

> Wed, January 13, 2010 12:05:03 PM

> Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

>  

> Astronomical elements are fine in Zoom only.Bharta Mata as seen from Melbourne

and as experienced in Delhi might give different impressions. 

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

>

> Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

> Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

> Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 1:28 AM

>

>  

>

> but surely you need long zoom to get know the finner elements.

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

>

> Wed, January 13, 2010 11:51:05 AM

> Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

>  

> From a distance, SHE looks beautiful! Because from a distance we can see MORE

of HER!! ;-)

>

> RR_,

>

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> >

> > You may be right. being at the feet of bharatmatha,  it is easy to

miss the beauty in her heart. She looks tall from here. 

> >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 11:27:03 AM

> > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> >  

> > If Urdu seems 'marsian' (you meant martian, perhaps?) you must really take

the time to enjoy Mirza Ghalib and Bahadurshah Zaffar and other Urdu poets and

writers, Suresh_jee!

> >

> > It is a beautiful language and if you ever have a chance to hear someone who

is speaking nafees Urdu, you will enjoy the genteel beauty of the language!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kulbir bains

> > >

> > > Definitely exact translation is any day better than commentaries,

particularly in this subject. That gives room for exapnasion and better

contemplation on the subject. As far as classics are concerned

I follow only original Sanskrit works. Unfortunately I don't

understand Urudu a bit(it looks marsian to me)..

> > >

> > > Nevertheless, It seems to be a good work and must thank you for the link

also. Whether one follows it or not, it provided some insights into various

systems and probably  life style

conditions in those areas where the system

was propagated.

> > >

> > >

> > >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains@ ...>

> > >

> > > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:38:48 AM

> > > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > >

> > >  

> > > Sir,

> > > I am not against any author or book.

> > > But transcript is different from translation or a commentary or notes; In

translation, commentary notes. the author's own view point ingredients are

always there.

> > > It always helps to have first hand account of the original work.

> > > This book is is almost 99.8 percent accurate and exact transcript.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains.

> > >

> > >

> > > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

> > >

> > > Tue, Jan 12, 2010 8:52 pm

> > > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > >

> > > Dear Kulbir Bains,

> > >

> > > I download the 11MB file from the link you provided.

> > >

> > > I havn't gone through all the pages (only about first 50 pages). It seems

to be very good work.

> > >

> > > I have a book by Prof.U.C.Mahajan also. My interest is basicaly academic &

research on various systems.

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > kulbir <kulbirbains@ aol.com>

> > >

> > > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:07:10 AM

> > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > >

> > > Dear Mishra Ji;

> > > Rest assured; We don't follow any unethical approach.

> > > Pt Rup Chand Joshi Ji distributed these books on no profit basis.

> > > This is exact transcript i.e. only urdu words/script have been changed to

hindi words/script.

> > > The post with rar attachment was to send the book to maximum number of

people.

> > > We are just carrying forward Pt. Ji's legacy.

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains.

> > >

> > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Group Policy:However, you may announce an

> > > > astrological website, or an astrologer, or an

> > > > astrological book, product or service. But, do not

> > > > make it sound like an advertising, and avoid the

> > > > approach of, " He is the best astrologer! " or " This

> > > > remedy / yantra / yajna will solve all your

> > > > problems! " . Announcing a same website over and over is

> > > > prohibited.

> > > > With thanks & regards,ÃÆ'‚

> > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > > > ÃÆ'‚

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > kulbir <kulbirbance@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Wed, January 13, 2010 12:09:25 AM

> > > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚

> > > > Dear moderators; why is the attachment not being displayed. is it

against some group policy.

> > > > in that case i am sorry.

> > > > kulbir

> > > >

> > > > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@

....> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear members; the earlier post, somehow didn't carry the attachment,

so i am

> > > > > re-posting it.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Kulbir Bance.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Krishnan Dada,

 

If you wish to take pictures that you can remember for a long time, REALLY focus

on the picture and not the equipment!

 

Need I say more?

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Dear Brothers.

> It is true.Sure and undoubtedly !while the biginnig was so.But when I went to

see Nishad Gardens: " there is the 8x10 and larger formats such as the

breath-taking shots " was a prized possession.Even now I have it but in dumb

state due to lack of rolls.

> I still believe lenticular analogy has some thing more creativity than today

" gizmos "

> No doubt in today's parlance Image and Format are getting inter related even

though dark room efforts are fading to give room to Photo Smart Modes.

> Thankx to technolgy that drives the beasts and helps to understand Cosmos.

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Wed, 1/13/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

> Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

> Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 2:23 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> But dear brothers -- if you are bent upon using the lenticular analogy, while

slower and less convenient, a zoom lens is way lower in quality of the image

than a single focal length lens! Dedication sure is way supreme to convenience!

Even when one is trying to follow a ritual or remedy!

>

> I personally prefer the 620 format of film (Kodak Brownie Box) than the more

square 120 format (Agfa Clik III) or the film format that was/is used by

Rolleiflex/Rolleico rd/Seagull/ Bronica/Hasselbl ad cameras!

>

> Of course there is the 8x10 and larger formats such as the breath-taking shots

taken by Ansel Adams and the likes of him!

>

> But how much larger the format of the film that captures the IMAGE can get

beyond ASTROLOGY? With all the colours and details and the ability to EDIT the

image in the darkroom, not to cheat but to bring out the details and beauty of

MA Nature even more?

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> >

> > That is the " whole " " point "  (of Astrology) , krishna ji.

> >

> > We need a wide angle lens as well a long zoom though agfa clickIII might do

well for most occassions.

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 12:05:03 PM

> > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> >  

> > Astronomical elements are fine in Zoom only.Bharta Mata as seen from

Melbourne and as experienced in Delhi might give different impressions. 

> >

> > Vattem Krishnan

> > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > (For all counseling services)

> > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> >  

> >

> > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

> >

> > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

> > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 1:28 AM

> >

> >  

> >

> > but surely you need long zoom to get know the finner elements.

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 11:51:05 AM

> > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> >  

> > From a distance, SHE looks beautiful! Because from a distance we can see

MORE of HER!! ;-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > You may be right. being at the feet of bharatmatha,  it is easy to

miss the beauty in her heart. She looks tall from here. 

> > >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > >

> > > Wed, January 13, 2010 11:27:03 AM

> > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > >

> > >  

> > > If Urdu seems 'marsian' (you meant martian, perhaps?) you must really take

the time to enjoy Mirza Ghalib and Bahadurshah Zaffar and other Urdu poets and

writers, Suresh_jee!

> > >

> > > It is a beautiful language and if you ever have a chance to hear someone

who is speaking nafees Urdu, you will enjoy the genteel beauty of the language!

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Kulbir bains

> > > >

> > > > Definitely exact translation is any day better than commentaries,

particularly in this subject. That gives room for exapnasion and better

contemplation on the subject. As far as classics are concerned

IÃÆ'‚ follow only original Sanskrit works. Unfortunately I don't

understand Urudu a bit(it looks marsian to me)..

> > > >

> > > > Nevertheless, It seems to be a good work and must thank you for the link

also. Whether one follows it or not, it provided some insights into various

systems and probablyÃÆ'‚  life style

conditionsÃÆ'‚ in those areas whereÃÆ'‚ the system

was propagated.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:38:48 AM

> > > > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > Sir,

> > > > I am not against any author or book.

> > > > But transcript is different from translation or a commentary or notes;

In translation, commentary notes. the author's own view point ingredients are

always there.

> > > > It always helps to have first hand account of the original work.

> > > > This book is is almost 99.8 percent accurate and exact transcript.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bains.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

> > > >

> > > > Tue, Jan 12, 2010 8:52 pm

> > > > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > > >

> > > > Dear Kulbir Bains,

> > > >

> > > > I download the 11MB file from the link you provided.

> > > >

> > > > I havn't gone through all the pages (only about first 50 pages). It

seems to be very good work.

> > > >

> > > > I have a book by Prof.U.C.Mahajan also. My interest is basicaly academic

& research on various systems.

> > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > kulbir <kulbirbains@ aol.com>

> > > >

> > > > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:07:10 AM

> > > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mishra Ji;

> > > > Rest assured; We don't follow any unethical approach.

> > > > Pt Rup Chand Joshi Ji distributed these books on no profit basis.

> > > > This is exact transcript i.e. only urdu words/script have been changed

to hindi words/script.

> > > > The post with rar attachment was to send the book to maximum number of

people.

> > > > We are just carrying forward Pt. Ji's legacy.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bains.

> > > >

> > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Group Policy:However, you may announce an

> > > > > astrological website, or an astrologer, or an

> > > > > astrological book, product or service. But, do not

> > > > > make it sound like an advertising, and avoid the

> > > > > approach of, " He is the best astrologer! " or " This

> > > > > remedy / yantra / yajna will solve all your

> > > > > problems! " . Announcing a same website over and over is

> > > > > prohibited.

> > > > > With thanks & regards,ÃÆ'Æ'‚

> > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > kulbir <kulbirbance@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Wed, January 13, 2010 12:09:25 AM

> > > > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚

> > > > > Dear moderators; why is the attachment not being displayed. is it

against some group policy.

> > > > > in that case i am sorry.

> > > > > kulbir

> > > > >

> > > > > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@

....> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear members; the earlier post, somehow didn't carry the attachment,

so i am

> > > > > > re-posting it.

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Kulbir Bance.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Krishna Ji, Have you got Rama Bana?

 

Lal Kitab, Tazik, Jyotish (traditional?), Urudu, Persian, Varshapal

 

and yes Omar Qayam

 

Qawalis......

 

in one shot.

 

 

Seriously, though, Lal kitab I think has Tazik influence - must be.

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

 

Wed, January 13, 2010 12:55:02 PM

Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

 

Dear Shri Rohini Ji and Sursh Ji

Lal Kitab,observed to be more of tantric influenced was only a passing

reference.Where as Jyotish covers for Tazik also is necessary course.Original

sctipt in Persian.

Tajik transalated by Pandit E.S Neelakant Sastrgal was having origin in urdu

and Persian.Today ofcourse we take interest in Varshaphal.

" Ittesal " and " Muntha " always signified fulfilment of wish.desire.

How did Omar Quyyam is not put on the same pedestal?Urdu certainly a sweet

language and the beauty lies in Ghazals,Mushairas and Quawwalis.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Wed, 1/13/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 12:57 AM

 

 

 

If Urdu seems 'marsian' (you meant martian, perhaps?) you must really take the

time to enjoy Mirza Ghalib and Bahadurshah Zaffar and other Urdu poets and

writers, Suresh_jee!

 

It is a beautiful language and if you ever have a chance to hear someone who is

speaking nafees Urdu, you will enjoy the genteel beauty of the language!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Kulbir bains

>

> Definitely exact translation is any day better than commentaries, particularly

in this subject. That gives room for exapnasion and better contemplation on the

subject. As far as classics are concerned I follow only original Sanskrit

works. Unfortunately I don't understand Urudu a bit(it looks marsian to me).

>

> Nevertheless, It seems to be a good work and must thank you for the link also.

Whether one follows it or not, it provided some insights into various systems

and probably  life style conditions in those areas where the system was

propagated.

>

>

>  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains@ ...>

>

> Wed, January 13, 2010 10:38:48 AM

> Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

>  

> Sir,

> I am not against any author or book.

> But transcript is different from translation or a commentary or notes; In

translation, commentary notes. the author's own view point ingredients are

always there.

> It always helps to have first hand account of the original work.

> This book is is almost 99.8 percent accurate and exact transcript.

>

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains.

>

>

> Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

>

> Tue, Jan 12, 2010 8:52 pm

> Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

> Dear Kulbir Bains,

>

> I download the 11MB file from the link you provided.

>

> I havn't gone through all the pages (only about first 50 pages). It seems to

be very good work.

>

> I have a book by Prof.U.C.Mahajan also. My interest is basicaly academic &

research on various systems.

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> kulbir <kulbirbains@ aol.com>

>

> Wed, January 13, 2010 10:07:10 AM

> Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

> Dear Mishra Ji;

> Rest assured; We don't follow any unethical approach.

> Pt Rup Chand Joshi Ji distributed these books on no profit basis.

> This is exact transcript i.e. only urdu words/script have been changed to

hindi words/script.

> The post with rar attachment was to send the book to maximum number of people.

> We are just carrying forward Pt. Ji's legacy.

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains.

>

> , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> >

> > Group Policy:However, you may announce an

> > astrological website, or an astrologer, or an

> > astrological book, product or service. But, do not

> > make it sound like an advertising, and avoid the

> > approach of, " He is the best astrologer! " or " This

> > remedy / yantra / yajna will solve all your

> > problems! " . Announcing a same website over and over is

> > prohibited.

> > With thanks & regards,Â

> > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > kulbir <kulbirbance@ ...>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 12:09:25 AM

> > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Â

> > Dear moderators; why is the attachment not being displayed. is it against

some group policy.

> > in that case i am sorry.

> > kulbir

> >

> > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@ ....>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear members; the earlier post, somehow didn't carry the attachment, so i

am

> > > re-posting it.

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bance.

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Sir,

This message landed ,as I was checking through :e Astrological Magazine and

their archieves.Looking for relevance of sun in 7th House.

iam also trying to get into ICAS and find through their data base,Let you know.

I just finishes a replied in another group about the need for ccclectic

approach.unfortunately the Madam has stretched her neck.But i agrred in toays

context with you and in changing time.Our minds have to be tuned to cater from

today;s needs.

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Wed, 1/13/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

 

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 2:31 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jyotish as practiced and accepted today has become more inclusive than

Astrology! It has embraced Indian and mid-eastern disciplines and other

disciplines!

 

Now, I will leave it to you and Suresh ji to make JYOTISHIS more inclusive and

accepting ... ;-)

 

I am still waiting for more information on the ICAS Database! :-)

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Rohini Ji and Sursh Ji

> Lal Kitab,observed to be more of tantric influenced was only a passing

reference.Where as Jyotish covers for Tazik also is necessary course.Original

sctipt in Persian.

> Tajik transalated by Pandit E.S Neelakant Sastrgal was having origin in

urdu and Persian.Today ofcourse we take interest in Varshaphal.

> " Ittesal " and " Muntha " always signified fulfilment of wish.desire.

> How did Omar Quyyam is not put on the same pedestal?Urdu certainly a sweet

language and the beauty lies in Ghazals,Mushairas and Quawwalis.

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Wed, 1/13/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

> Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 12:57 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> If Urdu seems 'marsian' (you meant martian, perhaps?) you must really take the

time to enjoy Mirza Ghalib and Bahadurshah Zaffar and other Urdu poets and

writers, Suresh_jee!

>

> It is a beautiful language and if you ever have a chance to hear someone who

is speaking nafees Urdu, you will enjoy the genteel beauty of the language!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbir bains

> >

> > Definitely exact translation is any day better than commentaries,

particularly in this subject. That gives room for exapnasion and better

contemplation on the subject. As far as classics are concerned I follow

only original Sanskrit works. Unfortunately I don't understand Urudu a bit(it

looks marsian to me).

> >

> > Nevertheless, It seems to be a good work and must thank you for the link

also. Whether one follows it or not, it provided some insights into various

systems and probably  life style conditions in those areas

where the system was propagated.

> >

> >

> >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains@ ...>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:38:48 AM

> > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> >  

> > Sir,

> > I am not against any author or book.

> > But transcript is different from translation or a commentary or notes; In

translation, commentary notes. the author's own view point ingredients are

always there.

> > It always helps to have first hand account of the original work.

> > This book is is almost 99.8 percent accurate and exact transcript.

> >

> > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains.

> >

> >

> > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

> >

> > Tue, Jan 12, 2010 8:52 pm

> > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Dear Kulbir Bains,

> >

> > I download the 11MB file from the link you provided.

> >

> > I havn't gone through all the pages (only about first 50 pages). It seems to

be very good work.

> >

> > I have a book by Prof.U.C.Mahajan also. My interest is basicaly academic &

research on various systems.

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > kulbir <kulbirbains@ aol.com>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:07:10 AM

> > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Dear Mishra Ji;

> > Rest assured; We don't follow any unethical approach.

> > Pt Rup Chand Joshi Ji distributed these books on no profit basis.

> > This is exact transcript i.e. only urdu words/script have been changed to

hindi words/script.

> > The post with rar attachment was to send the book to maximum number of

people.

> > We are just carrying forward Pt. Ji's legacy.

> > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains.

> >

> > , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> > >

> > > Group Policy:However, you may announce an

> > > astrological website, or an astrologer, or an

> > > astrological book, product or service. But, do not

> > > make it sound like an advertising, and avoid the

> > > approach of, " He is the best astrologer! " or " This

> > > remedy / yantra / yajna will solve all your

> > > problems! " . Announcing a same website over and over is

> > > prohibited.

> > > With thanks & regards,Â

> > > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > > Â

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > kulbir <kulbirbance@ ...>

> > >

> > > Wed, January 13, 2010 12:09:25 AM

> > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > >

> > > Â

> > > Dear moderators; why is the attachment not being displayed. is it against

some group policy.

> > > in that case i am sorry.

> > > kulbir

> > >

> > > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@

.....> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear members; the earlier post, somehow didn't carry the attachment, so

i am

> > > > re-posting it.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bance.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

where are you going?

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

________________________________

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

 

Wed, January 13, 2010 1:01:51 PM

Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

 

Jyotish as practiced and accepted today has become more inclusive than

Astrology! It has embraced Indian and mid-eastern disciplines and other

disciplines!

 

Now, I will leave it to you and Suresh ji to make JYOTISHIS more inclusive and

accepting ... ;-)

 

I am still waiting for more information on the ICAS Database! :-)

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Rohini Ji and Sursh Ji

> Lal Kitab,observed to be more of tantric influenced was only a passing

reference.Where as Jyotish covers for Tazik also is necessary course.Original

sctipt in Persian.

> Tajik transalated by Pandit E.S Neelakant Sastrgal was having origin in

urdu and Persian.Today ofcourse we take interest in Varshaphal.

> " Ittesal " and " Muntha " always signified fulfilment of wish.desire.

> How did Omar Quyyam is not put on the same pedestal?Urdu certainly a sweet

language and the beauty lies in Ghazals,Mushairas and Quawwalis.

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Wed, 1/13/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

> Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 12:57 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> If Urdu seems 'marsian' (you meant martian, perhaps?) you must really take the

time to enjoy Mirza Ghalib and Bahadurshah Zaffar and other Urdu poets and

writers, Suresh_jee!

>

> It is a beautiful language and if you ever have a chance to hear someone who

is speaking nafees Urdu, you will enjoy the genteel beauty of the language!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbir bains

> >

> > Definitely exact translation is any day better than commentaries,

particularly in this subject. That gives room for exapnasion and better

contemplation on the subject. As far as classics are concerned I follow

only original Sanskrit works. Unfortunately I don't understand Urudu a bit(it

looks marsian to me).

> >

> > Nevertheless, It seems to be a good work and must thank you for the link

also. Whether one follows it or not, it provided some insights into various

systems and probably  life style conditions in those areas

where the system was propagated.

> >

> >

> >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains@ ...>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:38:48 AM

> > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> >  

> > Sir,

> > I am not against any author or book.

> > But transcript is different from translation or a commentary or notes; In

translation, commentary notes. the author's own view point ingredients are

always there.

> > It always helps to have first hand account of the original work.

> > This book is is almost 99.8 percent accurate and exact transcript.

> >

> > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains.

> >

> >

> > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

> >

> > Tue, Jan 12, 2010 8:52 pm

> > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Dear Kulbir Bains,

> >

> > I download the 11MB file from the link you provided.

> >

> > I havn't gone through all the pages (only about first 50 pages). It seems to

be very good work.

> >

> > I have a book by Prof.U.C.Mahajan also. My interest is basicaly academic &

research on various systems.

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > kulbir <kulbirbains@ aol.com>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:07:10 AM

> > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Dear Mishra Ji;

> > Rest assured; We don't follow any unethical approach.

> > Pt Rup Chand Joshi Ji distributed these books on no profit basis.

> > This is exact transcript i.e. only urdu words/script have been changed to

hindi words/script.

> > The post with rar attachment was to send the book to maximum number of

people.

> > We are just carrying forward Pt. Ji's legacy.

> > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains.

> >

> > , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> > >

> > > Group Policy:However, you may announce an

> > > astrological website, or an astrologer, or an

> > > astrological book, product or service. But, do not

> > > make it sound like an advertising, and avoid the

> > > approach of, " He is the best astrologer! " or " This

> > > remedy / yantra / yajna will solve all your

> > > problems! " . Announcing a same website over and over is

> > > prohibited.

> > > With thanks & regards,Â

> > > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > > Â

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > kulbir <kulbirbance@ ...>

> > >

> > > Wed, January 13, 2010 12:09:25 AM

> > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > >

> > > Â

> > > Dear moderators; why is the attachment not being displayed. is it against

some group policy.

> > > in that case i am sorry.

> > > kulbir

> > >

> > > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@

.....> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear members; the earlier post, somehow didn't carry the attachment, so

i am

> > > > re-posting it.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bance.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri Suresh Ji,

Namskarams.iam really fortunate today.AS you know this is the day prior to

Pongal other wise Makara Sankratnti.

It is 'coz I have a book titled " Kaliyug Ke KalpaVrukhs(Swamy Krishnand

Saraswati Ji) " This has has Ram ban with a table and to fing out fulfilment of

wish.

This provides for Mangala Chandika Stotram to over come afflictions arising out

of 7th H also.

Happy Makara Sankranti to both of You.Happy Ponagal.I wish All mebers to be

happy and enjoy time as the uttarayana progresses.

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Wed, 1/13/10, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote:

 

 

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag

Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 2:55 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Krishna Ji, Have you got Rama Bana?

 

Lal Kitab, Tazik, Jyotish (traditional? ), Urudu, Persian, Varshapal

 

and yes Omar Qayam

 

Qawalis..... .

 

in one shot.

 

Seriously, though, Lal kitab I think has Tazik influence - must be.

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

 

Wed, January 13, 2010 12:55:02 PM

Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

 

Dear Shri Rohini Ji and Sursh Ji

Lal Kitab,observed to be more of tantric influenced was only a passing

reference.Where as Jyotish covers for Tazik also is necessary course.Original

sctipt in Persian.

Tajik transalated by Pandit E.S Neelakant Sastrgal was having origin in urdu

and Persian.Today ofcourse we take interest in Varshaphal.

" Ittesal " and " Muntha " always signified fulfilment of wish.desire.

How did Omar Quyyam is not put on the same pedestal?Urdu certainly a sweet

language and the beauty lies in Ghazals,Mushairas and Quawwalis.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Wed, 1/13/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 12:57 AM

 

 

 

If Urdu seems 'marsian' (you meant martian, perhaps?) you must really take the

time to enjoy Mirza Ghalib and Bahadurshah Zaffar and other Urdu poets and

writers, Suresh_jee!

 

It is a beautiful language and if you ever have a chance to hear someone who is

speaking nafees Urdu, you will enjoy the genteel beauty of the language!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Kulbir bains

>

> Definitely exact translation is any day better than commentaries, particularly

in this subject. That gives room for exapnasion and better contemplation on the

subject. As far as classics are concerned I follow only original Sanskrit

works. Unfortunately I don't understand Urudu a bit(it looks marsian to me).

>

> Nevertheless, It seems to be a good work and must thank you for the link also.

Whether one follows it or not, it provided some insights into various systems

and probably  life style conditions in those areas where the system was

propagated.

>

>

>  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains@ ...>

>

> Wed, January 13, 2010 10:38:48 AM

> Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

>  

> Sir,

> I am not against any author or book.

> But transcript is different from translation or a commentary or notes; In

translation, commentary notes. the author's own view point ingredients are

always there.

> It always helps to have first hand account of the original work.

> This book is is almost 99.8 percent accurate and exact transcript.

>

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains.

>

>

> Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

>

> Tue, Jan 12, 2010 8:52 pm

> Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

> Dear Kulbir Bains,

>

> I download the 11MB file from the link you provided.

>

> I havn't gone through all the pages (only about first 50 pages). It seems to

be very good work.

>

> I have a book by Prof.U.C.Mahajan also. My interest is basicaly academic &

research on various systems.

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> kulbir <kulbirbains@ aol.com>

>

> Wed, January 13, 2010 10:07:10 AM

> Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

> Dear Mishra Ji;

> Rest assured; We don't follow any unethical approach.

> Pt Rup Chand Joshi Ji distributed these books on no profit basis.

> This is exact transcript i.e. only urdu words/script have been changed to

hindi words/script.

> The post with rar attachment was to send the book to maximum number of people.

> We are just carrying forward Pt. Ji's legacy.

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains.

>

> , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> >

> > Group Policy:However, you may announce an

> > astrological website, or an astrologer, or an

> > astrological book, product or service. But, do not

> > make it sound like an advertising, and avoid the

> > approach of, " He is the best astrologer! " or " This

> > remedy / yantra / yajna will solve all your

> > problems! " . Announcing a same website over and over is

> > prohibited.

> > With thanks & regards,Â

> > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > kulbir <kulbirbance@ ...>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 12:09:25 AM

> > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Â

> > Dear moderators; why is the attachment not being displayed. is it against

some group policy.

> > in that case i am sorry.

> > kulbir

> >

> > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@ .....>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear members; the earlier post, somehow didn't carry the attachment, so i

am

> > > re-posting it.

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bance.

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Sir,

My Humble ThanX that com eout of my Sagittarian Shoulders.

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Wed, 1/13/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

 

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 2:42 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Krishnan Dada,

 

If you wish to take pictures that you can remember for a long time, REALLY focus

on the picture and not the equipment!

 

Need I say more?

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Dear Brothers.

> It is true.Sure and undoubtedly !while the biginnig was so.But when I went to

see Nishad Gardens: " there is the 8x10 and larger formats such as the

breath-taking shots " was a prized possession.Even now I have it but in dumb

state due to lack of rolls.

> I still believe lenticular analogy has some thing more creativity than today

" gizmos "

> No doubt in today's parlance Image and Format are getting inter related even

though dark room efforts are fading to give room to Photo Smart Modes.

> Thankx to technolgy that drives the beasts and helps to understand Cosmos..

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Wed, 1/13/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

> Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 2:23 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> But dear brothers -- if you are bent upon using the lenticular analogy, while

slower and less convenient, a zoom lens is way lower in quality of the image

than a single focal length lens! Dedication sure is way supreme to convenience!

Even when one is trying to follow a ritual or remedy!

>

> I personally prefer the 620 format of film (Kodak Brownie Box) than the more

square 120 format (Agfa Clik III) or the film format that was/is used by

Rolleiflex/Rolleico rd/Seagull/ Bronica/Hasselbl ad cameras!

>

> Of course there is the 8x10 and larger formats such as the breath-taking shots

taken by Ansel Adams and the likes of him!

>

> But how much larger the format of the film that captures the IMAGE can get

beyond ASTROLOGY? With all the colours and details and the ability to EDIT the

image in the darkroom, not to cheat but to bring out the details and beauty of

MA Nature even more?

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> >

> > That is the " whole " " point "  (of Astrology) , krishna ji.

> >

> > We need a wide angle lens as well a long zoom though agfa clickIII might do

well for most occassions.

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 12:05:03 PM

> > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> >  

> > Astronomical elements are fine in Zoom only.Bharta Mata as seen from

Melbourne and as experienced in Delhi might give different

impressions. 

> >

> > Vattem Krishnan

> > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > (For all counseling services)

> > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them "

> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> >  

> >

> > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

> >

> > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

> > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 1:28 AM

> >

> >  

> >

> > but surely you need long zoom to get know the finner elements.

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 11:51:05 AM

> > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> >  

> > From a distance, SHE looks beautiful! Because from a distance we can see

MORE of HER!! ;-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > You may be right. being at the feet of bharatmatha,  it

is easy to miss the beauty in her heart. She looks tall from

here. 

> > >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > >

> > > Wed, January 13, 2010 11:27:03 AM

> > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > >

> > >  

> > > If Urdu seems 'marsian' (you meant martian, perhaps?) you must really take

the time to enjoy Mirza Ghalib and Bahadurshah Zaffar and other Urdu poets and

writers, Suresh_jee!

> > >

> > > It is a beautiful language and if you ever have a chance to hear someone

who is speaking nafees Urdu, you will enjoy the genteel beauty of the language!

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Kulbir bains

> > > >

> > > > Definitely exact translation is any day better than commentaries,

particularly in this subject. That gives room for exapnasion and better

contemplation on the subject. As far as classics are concerned

IÃÆ'‚ follow only original Sanskrit works.

Unfortunately I don't understand Urudu a bit(it looks marsian to me)..

> > > >

> > > > Nevertheless, It seems to be a good work and must thank you for the link

also. Whether one follows it or not, it provided some insights into various

systems and probablyÃÆ'‚  life style

conditionsÃÆ'‚ in those areas

whereÃÆ'‚ the system was propagated.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:38:48 AM

> > > > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > Sir,

> > > > I am not against any author or book.

> > > > But transcript is different from translation or a commentary or notes;

In translation, commentary notes. the author's own view point ingredients are

always there.

> > > > It always helps to have first hand account of the original work.

> > > > This book is is almost 99.8 percent accurate and exact transcript.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bains.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

> > > >

> > > > Tue, Jan 12, 2010 8:52 pm

> > > > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > > >

> > > > Dear Kulbir Bains,

> > > >

> > > > I download the 11MB file from the link you provided.

> > > >

> > > > I havn't gone through all the pages (only about first 50 pages). It

seems to be very good work.

> > > >

> > > > I have a book by Prof.U.C.Mahajan also. My interest is basicaly academic

& research on various systems.

> > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > kulbir <kulbirbains@ aol.com>

> > > >

> > > > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:07:10 AM

> > > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mishra Ji;

> > > > Rest assured; We don't follow any unethical approach.

> > > > Pt Rup Chand Joshi Ji distributed these books on no profit basis.

> > > > This is exact transcript i.e. only urdu words/script have been changed

to hindi words/script.

> > > > The post with rar attachment was to send the book to maximum number of

people.

> > > > We are just carrying forward Pt. Ji's legacy.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bains.

> > > >

> > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Group Policy:However, you may announce an

> > > > > astrological website, or an astrologer, or an

> > > > > astrological book, product or service. But, do not

> > > > > make it sound like an advertising, and avoid the

> > > > > approach of, " He is the best astrologer! " or " This

> > > > > remedy / yantra / yajna will solve all your

> > > > > problems! " . Announcing a same website over and over is

> > > > > prohibited.

> > > > > With thanks & regards,ÃÆ'Æ'‚

> > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > kulbir <kulbirbance@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Wed, January 13, 2010 12:09:25 AM

> > > > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚

> > > > > Dear moderators; why is the attachment not being displayed. is it

against some group policy.

> > > > > in that case i am sorry.

> > > > > kulbir

> > > > >

> > > > > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@

....> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear members; the earlier post, somehow didn't carry the attachment,

so i am

> > > > > > re-posting it.

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Kulbir Bance.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

If I recall correctly, Kumar_jee had mentioned that he is associated with ICAS

and perhaps you may wish to touch-base with him re AM.

 

What is " ccclectic " approach?

 

Which Madam? Bharat Mata?? :-?

 

RR_,

 

 

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Sir,

> This message landed ,as I was checking through :e Astrological Magazine and

their archieves.Looking for relevance of sun in 7th House.

> iam also trying to get into ICAS and find through their data base,Let you

know.

> I just finishes a replied in another group about the need for ccclectic

approach.unfortunately the Madam has stretched her neck.But i agrred in toays

context with you and in changing time.Our minds have to be tuned to cater from

today;s needs.

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Wed, 1/13/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

> Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

> Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 2:31 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Jyotish as practiced and accepted today has become more inclusive than

Astrology! It has embraced Indian and mid-eastern disciplines and other

disciplines!

>

> Now, I will leave it to you and Suresh ji to make JYOTISHIS more inclusive and

accepting ... ;-)

>

> I am still waiting for more information on the ICAS Database! :-)

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri Rohini Ji and Sursh Ji

> > Lal Kitab,observed to be more of tantric influenced was only a passing

reference.Where as Jyotish covers for Tazik also is necessary course.Original

sctipt in Persian.

> > Tajik transalated by Pandit E.S Neelakant Sastrgal was having origin in

urdu and Persian.Today ofcourse we take interest in Varshaphal.

> > " Ittesal " and " Muntha " always signified fulfilment of wish.desire.

> > How did Omar Quyyam is not put on the same pedestal?Urdu certainly a sweet

language and the beauty lies in Ghazals,Mushairas and Quawwalis.

> >

> >

> > Vattem Krishnan

> > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > (For all counseling services)

> > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> >  

> >

> > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 12:57 AM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > If Urdu seems 'marsian' (you meant martian, perhaps?) you must really take

the time to enjoy Mirza Ghalib and Bahadurshah Zaffar and other Urdu poets and

writers, Suresh_jee!

> >

> > It is a beautiful language and if you ever have a chance to hear someone who

is speaking nafees Urdu, you will enjoy the genteel beauty of the language!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kulbir bains

> > >

> > > Definitely exact translation is any day better than commentaries,

particularly in this subject. That gives room for exapnasion and better

contemplation on the subject. As far as classics are concerned I follow

only original Sanskrit works. Unfortunately I don't understand Urudu a bit(it

looks marsian to me).

> > >

> > > Nevertheless, It seems to be a good work and must thank you for the link

also. Whether one follows it or not, it provided some insights into various

systems and probably  life style conditions in those areas

where the system was propagated.

> > >

> > >

> > >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains@ ...>

> > >

> > > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:38:48 AM

> > > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > >

> > >  

> > > Sir,

> > > I am not against any author or book.

> > > But transcript is different from translation or a commentary or notes; In

translation, commentary notes. the author's own view point ingredients are

always there.

> > > It always helps to have first hand account of the original work.

> > > This book is is almost 99.8 percent accurate and exact transcript.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains.

> > >

> > >

> > > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

> > >

> > > Tue, Jan 12, 2010 8:52 pm

> > > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > >

> > > Dear Kulbir Bains,

> > >

> > > I download the 11MB file from the link you provided.

> > >

> > > I havn't gone through all the pages (only about first 50 pages). It seems

to be very good work.

> > >

> > > I have a book by Prof.U.C.Mahajan also. My interest is basicaly academic &

research on various systems.

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > kulbir <kulbirbains@ aol.com>

> > >

> > > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:07:10 AM

> > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > >

> > > Dear Mishra Ji;

> > > Rest assured; We don't follow any unethical approach.

> > > Pt Rup Chand Joshi Ji distributed these books on no profit basis.

> > > This is exact transcript i.e. only urdu words/script have been changed to

hindi words/script.

> > > The post with rar attachment was to send the book to maximum number of

people.

> > > We are just carrying forward Pt. Ji's legacy.

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains.

> > >

> > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Group Policy:However, you may announce an

> > > > astrological website, or an astrologer, or an

> > > > astrological book, product or service. But, do not

> > > > make it sound like an advertising, and avoid the

> > > > approach of, " He is the best astrologer! " or " This

> > > > remedy / yantra / yajna will solve all your

> > > > problems! " . Announcing a same website over and over is

> > > > prohibited.

> > > > With thanks & regards,ÃÆ'‚

> > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > > > ÃÆ'‚

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > kulbir <kulbirbance@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Wed, January 13, 2010 12:09:25 AM

> > > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚

> > > > Dear moderators; why is the attachment not being displayed. is it

against some group policy.

> > > > in that case i am sorry.

> > > > kulbir

> > > >

> > > > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@

.....> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear members; the earlier post, somehow didn't carry the attachment,

so i am

> > > > > re-posting it.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Kulbir Bance.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

You meant, I hope, where I was coming from...?

 

A very dear friend who was very close, like a brother back in mid 70s when we

were both students in BHU suddenly appeared earlier today and as we reconnected

he shared a poem after we exchanged news about who died over the last few

decades while we lost track of each other, and our realities, and rekindled

earlier shared moments:

 

Har Jhulaa Puchta hai nanhay se ..Kahanse Aaya-ho?

Har Kafan Puchta hai Insaan se .. Kahan Jana hai?

Jevan maran ke rahasya kaun jaane \

 

Maray huay murday ko dekhkar...

KAL marnewala murda AAJ rota-hai "

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag

wrote:

>

> where are you going?

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

>

> Wed, January 13, 2010 1:01:51 PM

> Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

>  

> Jyotish as practiced and accepted today has become more inclusive than

Astrology! It has embraced Indian and mid-eastern disciplines and other

disciplines!

>

> Now, I will leave it to you and Suresh ji to make JYOTISHIS more inclusive and

accepting ... ;-)

>

> I am still waiting for more information on the ICAS Database! :-)

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri Rohini Ji and Sursh Ji

> > Lal Kitab,observed to be more of tantric influenced was only a passing

reference.Where as Jyotish covers for Tazik also is necessary course.Original

sctipt in Persian.

> > Tajik transalated by Pandit E.S Neelakant Sastrgal was having origin in

urdu and Persian.Today ofcourse we take interest in Varshaphal.

> > " Ittesal " and " Muntha " always signified fulfilment of wish.desire.

> > How did Omar Quyyam is not put on the same pedestal?Urdu certainly a sweet

language and the beauty lies in Ghazals,Mushairas and Quawwalis.

> >

> >

> > Vattem Krishnan

> > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > (For all counseling services)

> > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> >  

> >

> > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 12:57 AM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > If Urdu seems 'marsian' (you meant martian, perhaps?) you must really take

the time to enjoy Mirza Ghalib and Bahadurshah Zaffar and other Urdu poets and

writers, Suresh_jee!

> >

> > It is a beautiful language and if you ever have a chance to hear someone who

is speaking nafees Urdu, you will enjoy the genteel beauty of the language!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kulbir bains

> > >

> > > Definitely exact translation is any day better than commentaries,

particularly in this subject. That gives room for exapnasion and better

contemplation on the subject. As far as classics are concerned I follow

only original Sanskrit works. Unfortunately I don't understand Urudu a bit(it

looks marsian to me).

> > >

> > > Nevertheless, It seems to be a good work and must thank you for the link

also. Whether one follows it or not, it provided some insights into various

systems and probably  life style conditions in those areas

where the system was propagated.

> > >

> > >

> > >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains@ ...>

> > >

> > > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:38:48 AM

> > > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > >

> > >  

> > > Sir,

> > > I am not against any author or book.

> > > But transcript is different from translation or a commentary or notes; In

translation, commentary notes. the author's own view point ingredients are

always there.

> > > It always helps to have first hand account of the original work.

> > > This book is is almost 99.8 percent accurate and exact transcript.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains.

> > >

> > >

> > > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

> > >

> > > Tue, Jan 12, 2010 8:52 pm

> > > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > >

> > > Dear Kulbir Bains,

> > >

> > > I download the 11MB file from the link you provided.

> > >

> > > I havn't gone through all the pages (only about first 50 pages). It seems

to be very good work.

> > >

> > > I have a book by Prof.U.C.Mahajan also. My interest is basicaly academic &

research on various systems.

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > kulbir <kulbirbains@ aol.com>

> > >

> > > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:07:10 AM

> > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > >

> > > Dear Mishra Ji;

> > > Rest assured; We don't follow any unethical approach.

> > > Pt Rup Chand Joshi Ji distributed these books on no profit basis.

> > > This is exact transcript i.e. only urdu words/script have been changed to

hindi words/script.

> > > The post with rar attachment was to send the book to maximum number of

people.

> > > We are just carrying forward Pt. Ji's legacy.

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains.

> > >

> > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Group Policy:However, you may announce an

> > > > astrological website, or an astrologer, or an

> > > > astrological book, product or service. But, do not

> > > > make it sound like an advertising, and avoid the

> > > > approach of, " He is the best astrologer! " or " This

> > > > remedy / yantra / yajna will solve all your

> > > > problems! " . Announcing a same website over and over is

> > > > prohibited.

> > > > With thanks & regards,ÃÆ'‚

> > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > > > ÃÆ'‚

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > kulbir <kulbirbance@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Wed, January 13, 2010 12:09:25 AM

> > > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚

> > > > Dear moderators; why is the attachment not being displayed. is it

against some group policy.

> > > > in that case i am sorry.

> > > > kulbir

> > > >

> > > > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@

.....> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear members; the earlier post, somehow didn't carry the attachment,

so i am

> > > > > re-posting it.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Kulbir Bance.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Oh! no...

 

// Now, I will leave it to you and Suresh ji to make JYOTISHIS more inclusive

and accepting ... ;-)//

 

You sounded more like my local khadar wala councelor

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

________________________________

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

 

Wed, January 13, 2010 1:55:21 PM

Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

 

You meant, I hope, where I was coming from...?

 

A very dear friend who was very close, like a brother back in mid 70s when we

were both students in BHU suddenly appeared earlier today and as we reconnected

he shared a poem after we exchanged news about who died over the last few

decades while we lost track of each other, and our realities, and rekindled

earlier shared moments:

 

Har Jhulaa Puchta hai nanhay se ..Kahanse Aaya-ho?

Har Kafan Puchta hai Insaan se .. Kahan Jana hai?

Jevan maran ke rahasya kaun jaane \

 

Maray huay murday ko dekhkar...

KAL marnewala murda AAJ rota-hai "

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...>

wrote:

>

> where are you going?

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

>

> Wed, January 13, 2010 1:01:51 PM

> Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

>  

> Jyotish as practiced and accepted today has become more inclusive than

Astrology! It has embraced Indian and mid-eastern disciplines and other

disciplines!

>

> Now, I will leave it to you and Suresh ji to make JYOTISHIS more inclusive and

accepting ... ;-)

>

> I am still waiting for more information on the ICAS Database! :-)

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri Rohini Ji and Sursh Ji

> > Lal Kitab,observed to be more of tantric influenced was only a passing

reference.Where as Jyotish covers for Tazik also is necessary

course.Original sctipt in Persian.

> > Tajik transalated by Pandit E.S Neelakant Sastrgal was having origin

in urdu and Persian.Today ofcourse we take interest in Varshaphal.

> > " Ittesal " and " Muntha " always signified fulfilment of wish.desire.

> > How did Omar Quyyam is not put on the same pedestal?Urdu certainly a sweet

language and the beauty lies in Ghazals,Mushairas and Quawwalis.

> >

> >

> > Vattem Krishnan

> > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > (For all counseling services)

> > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them "

> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> >  

> >

> > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 12:57 AM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > If Urdu seems 'marsian' (you meant martian, perhaps?) you must really take

the time to enjoy Mirza Ghalib and Bahadurshah Zaffar and other Urdu poets and

writers, Suresh_jee!

> >

> > It is a beautiful language and if you ever have a chance to hear someone who

is speaking nafees Urdu, you will enjoy the genteel beauty of the language!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kulbir bains

> > >

> > > Definitely exact translation is any day better than commentaries,

particularly in this subject. That gives room for exapnasion and better

contemplation on the subject. As far as classics are concerned

I follow only original Sanskrit works. Unfortunately I don't

understand Urudu a bit(it looks marsian to me).

> > >

> > > Nevertheless, It seems to be a good work and must thank you for the link

also. Whether one follows it or not, it provided some insights into various

systems and probably  life style

conditions in those areas where the system

was propagated.

> > >

> > >

> > >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains@ ...>

> > >

> > > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:38:48 AM

> > > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > >

> > >  

> > > Sir,

> > > I am not against any author or book.

> > > But transcript is different from translation or a commentary or notes; In

translation, commentary notes. the author's own view point ingredients are

always there.

> > > It always helps to have first hand account of the original work.

> > > This book is is almost 99.8 percent accurate and exact transcript.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains.

> > >

> > >

> > > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

> > >

> > > Tue, Jan 12, 2010 8:52 pm

> > > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > >

> > > Dear Kulbir Bains,

> > >

> > > I download the 11MB file from the link you provided.

> > >

> > > I havn't gone through all the pages (only about first 50 pages). It seems

to be very good work.

> > >

> > > I have a book by Prof.U.C.Mahajan also. My interest is basicaly academic &

research on various systems.

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > kulbir <kulbirbains@ aol.com>

> > >

> > > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:07:10 AM

> > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > >

> > > Dear Mishra Ji;

> > > Rest assured; We don't follow any unethical approach.

> > > Pt Rup Chand Joshi Ji distributed these books on no profit basis.

> > > This is exact transcript i.e. only urdu words/script have been changed to

hindi words/script.

> > > The post with rar attachment was to send the book to maximum number of

people.

> > > We are just carrying forward Pt. Ji's legacy.

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains.

> > >

> > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Group Policy:However, you may announce an

> > > > astrological website, or an astrologer, or an

> > > > astrological book, product or service. But, do not

> > > > make it sound like an advertising, and avoid the

> > > > approach of, " He is the best astrologer! " or " This

> > > > remedy / yantra / yajna will solve all your

> > > > problems! " . Announcing a same website over and over is

> > > > prohibited.

> > > > With thanks & regards,ÃÆ'‚

> > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > > > ÃÆ'‚

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > kulbir <kulbirbance@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Wed, January 13, 2010 12:09:25 AM

> > > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚

> > > > Dear moderators; why is the attachment not being displayed. is it

against some group policy.

> > > > in that case i am sorry.

> > > > kulbir

> > > >

> > > > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@

.....> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear members; the earlier post, somehow didn't carry the attachment,

so i am

> > > > > re-posting it.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Kulbir Bance.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Krishna ji,

 

great men think alike.

 

Now seriously :  " Mangala Chandika Stotram " , I shall write to you personaly.

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

 

Wed, January 13, 2010 1:39:25 PM

Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

 

Dear Shri Suresh Ji,

Namskarams.iam really fortunate today.AS you know this is the day prior to

Pongal other wise Makara Sankratnti.

It is 'coz I have a book titled " Kaliyug Ke KalpaVrukhs( Swamy Krishnand

Saraswati Ji) " This has has Ram ban with a table and to fing out fulfilment of

wish.

This provides for Mangala Chandika Stotram to over come afflictions arising out

of 7th H also.

Happy Makara Sankranti to both of You.Happy Ponagal.I wish All mebers to be

happy and enjoy time as the uttarayana progresses.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Wed, 1/13/10, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

 

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 2:55 AM

 

 

 

Krishna Ji, Have you got Rama Bana?

 

Lal Kitab, Tazik, Jyotish (traditional? ), Urudu, Persian, Varshapal

 

and yes Omar Qayam

 

Qawalis..... .

 

in one shot.

 

Seriously, though, Lal kitab I think has Tazik influence - must be.

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

 

Wed, January 13, 2010 12:55:02 PM

Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

 

Dear Shri Rohini Ji and Sursh Ji

Lal Kitab,observed to be more of tantric influenced was only a passing

reference.Where as Jyotish covers for Tazik also is necessary course.Original

sctipt in Persian.

Tajik transalated by Pandit E.S Neelakant Sastrgal was having origin in urdu

and Persian.Today ofcourse we take interest in Varshaphal.

" Ittesal " and " Muntha " always signified fulfilment of wish.desire.

How did Omar Quyyam is not put on the same pedestal?Urdu certainly a sweet

language and the beauty lies in Ghazals,Mushairas and Quawwalis.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Wed, 1/13/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 12:57 AM

 

 

 

If Urdu seems 'marsian' (you meant martian, perhaps?) you must really take the

time to enjoy Mirza Ghalib and Bahadurshah Zaffar and other Urdu poets and

writers, Suresh_jee!

 

It is a beautiful language and if you ever have a chance to hear someone who is

speaking nafees Urdu, you will enjoy the genteel beauty of the language!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Kulbir bains

>

> Definitely exact translation is any day better than commentaries, particularly

in this subject. That gives room for exapnasion and better contemplation on the

subject. As far as classics are concerned I follow only original Sanskrit

works. Unfortunately I don't understand Urudu a bit(it looks marsian to me).

>

> Nevertheless, It seems to be a good work and must thank you for the link also.

Whether one follows it or not, it provided some insights into various systems

and probably  life style conditions in those areas where the system was

propagated.

>

>

>  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains@ ...>

>

> Wed, January 13, 2010 10:38:48 AM

> Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

>  

> Sir,

> I am not against any author or book.

> But transcript is different from translation or a commentary or notes; In

translation, commentary notes. the author's own view point ingredients are

always there.

> It always helps to have first hand account of the original work.

> This book is is almost 99.8 percent accurate and exact transcript.

>

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains.

>

>

> Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

>

> Tue, Jan 12, 2010 8:52 pm

> Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

> Dear Kulbir Bains,

>

> I download the 11MB file from the link you provided.

>

> I havn't gone through all the pages (only about first 50 pages). It seems to

be very good work.

>

> I have a book by Prof.U.C.Mahajan also. My interest is basicaly academic &

research on various systems.

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> kulbir <kulbirbains@ aol.com>

>

> Wed, January 13, 2010 10:07:10 AM

> Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

> Dear Mishra Ji;

> Rest assured; We don't follow any unethical approach.

> Pt Rup Chand Joshi Ji distributed these books on no profit basis.

> This is exact transcript i.e. only urdu words/script have been changed to

hindi words/script.

> The post with rar attachment was to send the book to maximum number of people.

> We are just carrying forward Pt. Ji's legacy.

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains.

>

> , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> >

> > Group Policy:However, you may announce an

> > astrological website, or an astrologer, or an

> > astrological book, product or service. But, do not

> > make it sound like an advertising, and avoid the

> > approach of, " He is the best astrologer! " or " This

> > remedy / yantra / yajna will solve all your

> > problems! " . Announcing a same website over and over is

> > prohibited.

> > With thanks & regards,Â

> > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > kulbir <kulbirbance@ ...>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 12:09:25 AM

> > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Â

> > Dear moderators; why is the attachment not being displayed. is it against

some group policy.

> > in that case i am sorry.

> > kulbir

> >

> > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@ .....>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear members; the earlier post, somehow didn't carry the attachment, so i

am

> > > re-posting it.

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bance.

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Sir,

Remember in 1984 The crew at SALYUT-7 Orbital Station held a joint television

news conference with officials in Moscow and Prime Minister Ms. Indira Gandhi.

When Prime Minister Indira Gandhi asked Sqn Ldr Rakesh Sharma ‘’how India

looked from outer space.’’

" Saare jahan se achcha " , was the reply of Sqn Ldr Rakesh Sharma .

 

 

 

 

Regards

Kulbir Bains.

 

 

 

 

 

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

 

Tue, 12 Jan 2010 10:21 pm

Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

 

 

 

From a distance, SHE looks beautiful! Because from a distance we can see MORE of

HER!! ;-)

 

RR_,

 

, " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag

wrote:

>

> You may be right. being at the feet of bharatmatha, it is easy to miss the

beauty in her heart. She looks tall from here.Â

> Â A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

>

> Wed, January 13, 2010 11:27:03 AM

> Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

> Â

> If Urdu seems 'marsian' (you meant martian, perhaps?) you must really take the

time to enjoy Mirza Ghalib and Bahadurshah Zaffar and other Urdu poets and

writers, Suresh_jee!

>

> It is a beautiful language and if you ever have a chance to hear someone who

is speaking nafees Urdu, you will enjoy the genteel beauty of the language!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbir bains

> >

> > Definitely exact translation is any day better than commentaries,

particularly in this subject. That gives room for exapnasion and better

contemplation on the subject. As far as classics are concerned I follow

only original Sanskrit works. Unfortunately I don't understand Urudu a bit(it

looks marsian to me).

> >

> > Nevertheless, It seems to be a good work and must thank you for the link

also. Whether one follows it or not, it provided some insights into various

systems and probably life style conditions in those areas

where the system was propagated.

> >

> >

> >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains@ ...>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:38:48 AM

> > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > ÂÂ

> > Sir,

> > I am not against any author or book.

> > But transcript is different from translation or a commentary or notes; In

translation, commentary notes. the author's own view point ingredients are

always there.

> > It always helps to have first hand account of the original work.

> > This book is is almost 99.8 percent accurate and exact transcript.

> >

> > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains.

> >

> >

> > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

> >

> > Tue, Jan 12, 2010 8:52 pm

> > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Dear Kulbir Bains,

> >

> > I download the 11MB file from the link you provided.

> >

> > I havn't gone through all the pages (only about first 50 pages). It seems to

be very good work.

> >

> > I have a book by Prof.U.C.Mahajan also. My interest is basicaly academic &

research on various systems.

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > kulbir <kulbirbains@ aol.com>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:07:10 AM

> > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Dear Mishra Ji;

> > Rest assured; We don't follow any unethical approach.

> > Pt Rup Chand Joshi Ji distributed these books on no profit basis.

> > This is exact transcript i.e. only urdu words/script have been changed to

hindi words/script.

> > The post with rar attachment was to send the book to maximum number of

people.

> > We are just carrying forward Pt. Ji's legacy.

> > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains.

> >

> > , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> > >

> > > Group Policy:However, you may announce an

> > > astrological website, or an astrologer, or an

> > > astrological book, product or service. But, do not

> > > make it sound like an advertising, and avoid the

> > > approach of, " He is the best astrologer! " or " This

> > > remedy / yantra / yajna will solve all your

> > > problems! " . Announcing a same website over and over is

> > > prohibited.

> > > With thanks & regards,Â

> > > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > > Â

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > kulbir <kulbirbance@ ...>

> > >

> > > Wed, January 13, 2010 12:09:25 AM

> > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > >

> > > Â

> > > Dear moderators; why is the attachment not being displayed. is it against

some group policy.

> > > in that case i am sorry.

> > > kulbir

> > >

> > > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@ ...>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear members; the earlier post, somehow didn't carry the attachment, so

i am

> > > > re-posting it.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bance.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Sir,

the .2 percent room for error had been mentioned for courtesy sake.

we are perfectionists to the core.

thanks for correcting.

now I SAY, RATHER CLAIM WITH AUTHORITY THAT IT IS 100 PERCENT CORRECT.

 

 

Regards

Kulbir Bains.

 

 

 

 

 

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

 

Tue, 12 Jan 2010 9:21 pm

Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

 

 

 

So there is some 0.2% doubt that it may not be " ORIGINAL " !

 

There we go again!

 

Why not 100%? How can you be sure that it is <almost> 99.8% true? Are we again

running into the " 82% phenomenon " that I have often written about?

 

When will we stop throwing around percentages recklessly without having or

offering the evidence (one would if one could!!)?

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains wrote:

>

> Sir,

> I am not against any author or book.

> But transcript is different from translation or a commentary or notes; In

translation, commentary notes. the author's own view point ingredients are

always there.

> It always helps to have first hand account of the original work.

> This book is is almost 99.8 percent accurate and exact transcript.

>

>

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag

>

> Tue, Jan 12, 2010 8:52 pm

> Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Kulbir Bains,

>

> I download the 11MB file from the link you provided.

>

> I havn't gone through all the pages (only about first 50 pages). It seems to

be very good work.

>

> I have a book by Prof.U.C.Mahajan also. My interest is basicaly academic &

research on various systems.

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> ________________________________

> kulbir <kulbirbains

>

> Wed, January 13, 2010 10:07:10 AM

> Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

>

> Dear Mishra Ji;

> Rest assured; We don't follow any unethical approach.

> Pt Rup Chand Joshi Ji distributed these books on no profit basis.

> This is exact transcript i.e. only urdu words/script have been changed to

hindi words/script.

> The post with rar attachment was to send the book to maximum number of people.

> We are just carrying forward Pt. Ji's legacy.

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains.

>

> , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> >

> > Group Policy:However, you may announce an

> > astrological website, or an astrologer, or an

> > astrological book, product or service. But, do not

> > make it sound like an advertising, and avoid the

> > approach of, " He is the best astrologer! " or " This

> > remedy / yantra / yajna will solve all your

> > problems! " . Announcing a same website over and over is

> > prohibited.

> > With thanks & regards,Â

> > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > kulbir <kulbirbance@ ...>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 12:09:25 AM

> > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Â

> > Dear moderators; why is the attachment not being displayed. is it against

some group policy.

> > in that case i am sorry.

> > kulbir

> >

> > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@ ...>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear members; the earlier post, somehow didn't carry the attachment, so i

am

> > > re-posting it.

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bance.

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Sir RR ji;

However it is a different matter as Nana Patekar put it in Tiranga " Sau Mein Se

Nianvein Beimaan, Phir Bhi Mera Bharat Mahan''

At least your goodself would agree, this one percent error should remain.

 

 

Regards

Kulbir Bains.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains

 

Wed, 13 Jan 2010 4:01 am

Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

 

 

 

 

Sir,

Remember in 1984 The crew at SALYUT-7 Orbital Station held a joint television

news conference with officials in Moscow and Prime Minister Ms. Indira Gandhi.

When Prime Minister Indira Gandhi asked Sqn Ldr Rakesh Sharma ‘’how India

looked from outer space.’’

" Saare jahan se achcha " , was the reply of Sqn Ldr Rakesh Sharma .

 

 

Regards

Kulbir Bains.

 

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

 

Tue, 12 Jan 2010 10:21 pm

Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

From a distance, SHE looks beautiful! Because from a distance we can see MORE of

HER!! ;-)

 

RR_,

 

, " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag

wrote:

>

> You may be right. being at the feet of bharatmatha, it is easy to miss the

beauty in her heart. She looks tall from here.Â

> Â A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

>

> Wed, January 13, 2010 11:27:03 AM

> Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

> Â

> If Urdu seems 'marsian' (you meant martian, perhaps?) you must really take the

time to enjoy Mirza Ghalib and Bahadurshah Zaffar and other Urdu poets and

writers, Suresh_jee!

>

> It is a beautiful language and if you ever have a chance to hear someone who

is speaking nafees Urdu, you will enjoy the genteel beauty of the language!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbir bains

> >

> > Definitely exact translation is any day better than commentaries,

particularly in this subject. That gives room for exapnasion and better

contemplation on the subject. As far as classics are concerned I follow

only original Sanskrit works. Unfortunately I don't understand Urudu a bit(it

looks marsian to me).

> >

> > Nevertheless, It seems to be a good work and must thank you for the link

also. Whether one follows it or not, it provided some insights into various

systems and probably life style conditions in those areas

where the system was propagated.

> >

> >

> >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains@ ...>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:38:48 AM

> > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > ÂÂ

> > Sir,

> > I am not against any author or book.

> > But transcript is different from translation or a commentary or notes; In

translation, commentary notes. the author's own view point ingredients are

always there.

> > It always helps to have first hand account of the original work.

> > This book is is almost 99.8 percent accurate and exact transcript.

> >

> > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains.

> >

> >

> > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

> >

> > Tue, Jan 12, 2010 8:52 pm

> > Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Dear Kulbir Bains,

> >

> > I download the 11MB file from the link you provided.

> >

> > I havn't gone through all the pages (only about first 50 pages). It seems to

be very good work.

> >

> > I have a book by Prof.U.C.Mahajan also. My interest is basicaly academic &

research on various systems.

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > kulbir <kulbirbains@ aol.com>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 10:07:10 AM

> > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Dear Mishra Ji;

> > Rest assured; We don't follow any unethical approach.

> > Pt Rup Chand Joshi Ji distributed these books on no profit basis.

> > This is exact transcript i.e. only urdu words/script have been changed to

hindi words/script.

> > The post with rar attachment was to send the book to maximum number of

people.

> > We are just carrying forward Pt. Ji's legacy.

> > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains.

> >

> > , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> > >

> > > Group Policy:However, you may announce an

> > > astrological website, or an astrologer, or an

> > > astrological book, product or service. But, do not

> > > make it sound like an advertising, and avoid the

> > > approach of, " He is the best astrologer! " or " This

> > > remedy / yantra / yajna will solve all your

> > > problems! " . Announcing a same website over and over is

> > > prohibited.

> > > With thanks & regards,Â

> > > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > > Â

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > kulbir <kulbirbance@ ...>

> > >

> > > Wed, January 13, 2010 12:09:25 AM

> > > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> > >

> > > Â

> > > Dear moderators; why is the attachment not being displayed. is it against

some group policy.

> > > in that case i am sorry.

> > > kulbir

> > >

> > > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@ ...>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear members; the earlier post, somehow didn't carry the attachment, so

i am

> > > > re-posting it.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bance.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear members; i see some messages from members that they were unable to download

from the earlier link posted by me.

Kindly try this one http://www.archive.org/details/LalKitab1941

 

 

Regards

Kulbir Bains.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains

 

Wed, 13 Jan 2010 4:16 am

Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

 

 

 

 

Sir,

the .2 percent room for error had been mentioned for courtesy sake.

we are perfectionists to the core.

thanks for correcting.

now I SAY, RATHER CLAIM WITH AUTHORITY THAT IT IS 100 PERCENT CORRECT.

 

Regards

Kulbir Bains.

 

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

 

Tue, 12 Jan 2010 9:21 pm

Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

So there is some 0.2% doubt that it may not be " ORIGINAL " !

 

There we go again!

 

Why not 100%? How can you be sure that it is <almost> 99.8% true? Are we again

running into the " 82% phenomenon " that I have often written about?

 

When will we stop throwing around percentages recklessly without having or

offering the evidence (one would if one could!!)?

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains wrote:

>

> Sir,

> I am not against any author or book.

> But transcript is different from translation or a commentary or notes; In

translation, commentary notes. the author's own view point ingredients are

always there.

> It always helps to have first hand account of the original work.

> This book is is almost 99.8 percent accurate and exact transcript.

>

>

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag

>

> Tue, Jan 12, 2010 8:52 pm

> Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Kulbir Bains,

>

> I download the 11MB file from the link you provided.

>

> I havn't gone through all the pages (only about first 50 pages). It seems to

be very good work.

>

> I have a book by Prof.U.C.Mahajan also. My interest is basicaly academic &

research on various systems.

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> ________________________________

> kulbir <kulbirbains

>

> Wed, January 13, 2010 10:07:10 AM

> Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

>

> Dear Mishra Ji;

> Rest assured; We don't follow any unethical approach.

> Pt Rup Chand Joshi Ji distributed these books on no profit basis.

> This is exact transcript i.e. only urdu words/script have been changed to

hindi words/script.

> The post with rar attachment was to send the book to maximum number of people.

> We are just carrying forward Pt. Ji's legacy.

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains.

>

> , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> >

> > Group Policy:However, you may announce an

> > astrological website, or an astrologer, or an

> > astrological book, product or service. But, do not

> > make it sound like an advertising, and avoid the

> > approach of, " He is the best astrologer! " or " This

> > remedy / yantra / yajna will solve all your

> > problems! " . Announcing a same website over and over is

> > prohibited.

> > With thanks & regards,Â

> > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > kulbir <kulbirbance@ ...>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 12:09:25 AM

> > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Â

> > Dear moderators; why is the attachment not being displayed. is it against

some group policy.

> > in that case i am sorry.

> > kulbir

> >

> > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@ ...>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear members; the earlier post, somehow didn't carry the attachment, so i

am

> > > re-posting it.

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bance.

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Kulbir Bains,

 

It seems you are very enthusiastic of Lal Kitab (no offence).

 

Can you write about the fundamental difference between Traditional Indian

Astrology (like parashara, Mihiracharya, Jaimini etc)  & this system? (not

regarding remedies) in pure Astrlogical terms.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains

 

Wed, January 13, 2010 6:56:58 PM

Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

 

 

Dear members; i see some messages from members that they were unable to download

from the earlier link posted by me.

Kindly try this one http://www.archive. org/details/ LalKitab1941

 

Regards

Kulbir Bains.

 

 

Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains@ aol.com>

 

Wed, 13 Jan 2010 4:16 am

Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

Sir,

the .2 percent room for error had been mentioned for courtesy sake.

we are perfectionists to the core.

thanks for correcting.

now I SAY, RATHER CLAIM WITH AUTHORITY THAT IT IS 100 PERCENT CORRECT.

 

Regards

Kulbir Bains.

 

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

 

Tue, 12 Jan 2010 9:21 pm

Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

So there is some 0.2% doubt that it may not be " ORIGINAL " !

 

There we go again!

 

Why not 100%? How can you be sure that it is <almost> 99.8% true? Are we again

running into the " 82% phenomenon " that I have often written about?

 

When will we stop throwing around percentages recklessly without having or

offering the evidence (one would if one could!!)?

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Sir,

> I am not against any author or book.

> But transcript is different from translation or a commentary or notes; In

translation, commentary notes. the author's own view point ingredients are

always there.

> It always helps to have first hand account of the original work.

> This book is is almost 99.8 percent accurate and exact transcript.

>

>

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ ...>

>

> Tue, Jan 12, 2010 8:52 pm

> Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Kulbir Bains,

>

> I download the 11MB file from the link you provided.

>

> I havn't gone through all the pages (only about first 50 pages). It seems to

be very good work.

>

> I have a book by Prof.U.C.Mahajan also. My interest is basicaly academic &

research on various systems.

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> kulbir <kulbirbains@ ...>

>

> Wed, January 13, 2010 10:07:10 AM

> Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

>

> Dear Mishra Ji;

> Rest assured; We don't follow any unethical approach.

> Pt Rup Chand Joshi Ji distributed these books on no profit basis.

> This is exact transcript i.e. only urdu words/script have been changed to

hindi words/script.

> The post with rar attachment was to send the book to maximum number of people.

> We are just carrying forward Pt. Ji's legacy.

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains.

>

> , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> >

> > Group Policy:However, you may announce an

> > astrological website, or an astrologer, or an

> > astrological book, product or service. But, do not

> > make it sound like an advertising, and avoid the

> > approach of, " He is the best astrologer! " or " This

> > remedy / yantra / yajna will solve all your

> > problems! " . Announcing a same website over and over is

> > prohibited.

> > With thanks & regards,Â

> > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > kulbir <kulbirbance@ ...>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 12:09:25 AM

> > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Â

> > Dear moderators; why is the attachment not being displayed. is it against

some group policy.

> > in that case i am sorry.

> > kulbir

> >

> > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@ ...>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear members; the earlier post, somehow didn't carry the attachment, so i

am

> > > re-posting it.

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bance.

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Sir,

//It seems you are very enthusiastic of Lal Kitab (no offence). //

Why should i feel offended. I am Proud.

Of course i will try to write about uniqueness of lalkitab to remove some

misconceptions.

 

//Can you write about the fundamental difference between Traditional Indian

Astrology (like parashara, Mihiracharya, Jaimini etc) & this system? (not

regarding remedies) in pure Astrlogical terms.

 

i will write about the similarities and difference between lalkitab and

traditional indian astrology.

not about any particular school of thought //parashara, Mihiracharya, Jaimini

etc//

because then i will have to answer some querry by some other member about Nadi.

KP. SA etc.

And i have no intention to be jack of all trades.

 

Ek Ke Saadhe Sab Sadhee ..........

 

i can understand why you told me to exclude remedies;

it is a misconception that lalkitab is a magic pot for all problems like

aladin's lamp. this is not true. once a person goes into detailed study of this

subject. he/she would think hundred times before running for remedies.

 

It is a complete system in itself; it has it's own grammar rules philosophy

tradition.

 

Unfortunately the commentaries and books titled like lalkitab ke tone totke have

brought about a low opinion among general people about this granth.

 

We had to lie low until now because original works were in urdu, that too stored

by people for personal use, translations were full of mistakes.

 

But now it is pay back time. we have exact transliterations/transcripts to which

anybody can refer.

 

Regards

Kulbir Bains.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag

 

Wed, 13 Jan 2010 5:39 am

Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

 

 

 

Dear Kulbir Bains,

 

It seems you are very enthusiastic of Lal Kitab (no offence).

 

Can you write about the fundamental difference between Traditional Indian

Astrology (like parashara, Mihiracharya, Jaimini etc) & this system? (not

regarding remedies) in pure Astrlogical terms.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

________________________________

Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains

 

Wed, January 13, 2010 6:56:58 PM

Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

 

 

Dear members; i see some messages from members that they were unable to download

from the earlier link posted by me.

Kindly try this one http://www.archive. org/details/ LalKitab1941

 

Regards

Kulbir Bains.

 

 

Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains@ aol.com>

 

Wed, 13 Jan 2010 4:16 am

Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

Sir,

the .2 percent room for error had been mentioned for courtesy sake.

we are perfectionists to the core.

thanks for correcting.

now I SAY, RATHER CLAIM WITH AUTHORITY THAT IT IS 100 PERCENT CORRECT.

 

Regards

Kulbir Bains.

 

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

 

Tue, 12 Jan 2010 9:21 pm

Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

 

So there is some 0.2% doubt that it may not be " ORIGINAL " !

 

There we go again!

 

Why not 100%? How can you be sure that it is <almost> 99.8% true? Are we again

running into the " 82% phenomenon " that I have often written about?

 

When will we stop throwing around percentages recklessly without having or

offering the evidence (one would if one could!!)?

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Sir,

> I am not against any author or book.

> But transcript is different from translation or a commentary or notes; In

translation, commentary notes. the author's own view point ingredients are

always there.

> It always helps to have first hand account of the original work.

> This book is is almost 99.8 percent accurate and exact transcript.

>

>

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ ...>

>

> Tue, Jan 12, 2010 8:52 pm

> Re: Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Kulbir Bains,

>

> I download the 11MB file from the link you provided.

>

> I havn't gone through all the pages (only about first 50 pages). It seems to

be very good work.

>

> I have a book by Prof.U.C.Mahajan also. My interest is basicaly academic &

research on various systems.

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> kulbir <kulbirbains@ ...>

>

> Wed, January 13, 2010 10:07:10 AM

> Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

>

>

> Dear Mishra Ji;

> Rest assured; We don't follow any unethical approach.

> Pt Rup Chand Joshi Ji distributed these books on no profit basis.

> This is exact transcript i.e. only urdu words/script have been changed to

hindi words/script.

> The post with rar attachment was to send the book to maximum number of people.

> We are just carrying forward Pt. Ji's legacy.

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains.

>

> , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> >

> > Group Policy:However, you may announce an

> > astrological website, or an astrologer, or an

> > astrological book, product or service. But, do not

> > make it sound like an advertising, and avoid the

> > approach of, " He is the best astrologer! " or " This

> > remedy / yantra / yajna will solve all your

> > problems! " . Announcing a same website over and over is

> > prohibited.

> > With thanks & regards,Â

> > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > kulbir <kulbirbance@ ...>

> >

> > Wed, January 13, 2010 12:09:25 AM

> > Re: 1941 lalkitab exact transliteration RAR

> >

> > Â

> > Dear moderators; why is the attachment not being displayed. is it against

some group policy.

> > in that case i am sorry.

> > kulbir

> >

> > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@ ...>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear members; the earlier post, somehow didn't carry the attachment, so i

am

> > > re-posting it.

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bance.

> > >

> > >

> > >