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Dear Renu ji,

 

 

Thanks for providing the details about the native. Can you please let us know at

what age did she get married?

 

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- On Sun, 29/6/08, renunw <renunw wrote:

renunw <renunw

Re: Love marriage

 

Sunday, 29 June, 2008, 12:55

 

Dear learned members,

 

Since this was not supposed to be a quiz  I will reveal how the  exchange

between 5HL & 7HL affected this particular lady. Before that let me thank

everyone who analyzed it. Each analysis is a learning tool to others.

 

First let me give 100% to Bhagawathi ji for her following analysis:

" The native has a 5/7 parivartana. But I do not think she would have

had a love marriage as such. I also don't think she would have had

any other affairs besides her marriage. She had her rahu dasa, which

should have given marriage. The transits were favorable during her

Rahu/sat, if she was ready then it should have given her marriage

otherwise sometime later in that dasa itself

 

 

She could have married someone known to her or closer to her.Her

marriage should be happy and complete with children. Her husband

could be intelligent and well placed. "

 

 

Now I will start with the following revealed by Neelam ji as her dad had been

 kind of influential to get her marriage partner.

" father who may be strong and influential (9L and karak sun in 5H with moon who

is 11L from 9H moon and sun is 8L).  Father may be a highly respected public

figure "

 

Her father was a well respected public figure who was the youngest

parlimentarian in the year 1960...soon after this lady was born.  Unlike

today, many a  politician of yesteryear were true statesmen.

She did not have any affair as such...but has had school girl crushes which were

dropped then and there as she never wanted to hurt her dad's feelings.  There

were many boys after her but she was nicknamed by them as " Major M... " ...which

means that all of them were dead scared of her.

 

Yes, she got married in mahadasa of Rahu as Neelam ji and Bhagawathi ji has

rightly stated. In fact Bhagawathi ji has mentioned that it was Rahu/Saturn

which is absolutely correct. Kindly tell how you arrived at it.

 

First child was born in 1983.... a daughter as Neelam ji  rightly mentioned in

another mail. Then a son was born in 1984.

Marriage is steady and to a known person...a favourite of her dad. In fact a

supporter of her dad's political campaign. Of course there was  a love

relationship. ...though not exactly a ' love affair'.

 

 

Yes, Neelam ji,  she is good looking, bold and courageous but no marital

discords. Jupiter dasha was stressful to her and husband as their son was very

sick. Yes, marriage survived.  Her courage was a support to her husband. 

Neelam ji mentioned possible marital discords in Jupiter dasha...well not

exactly ...the problem was their son's illness....in a way you are right here.

Let me quote Neelam ji again...

 

A high social status for the individual, infact like a birthright (benefic5L/10L

venus in 7H aspecting lagna and dispositor being an exalted luminary in 5H of

poorv punya) along with good looks, grace, creativity etc. Good children, also

having leadership qualities and success written for them. Mercury moon in 5H

aspected by Jup would give creative skills in writing and speech.

 

 

All correct...creative skills in speech...but she thinks her writing ability is

poor.

 

Anantha Krishanan ji....you are correct to a certain extent...

" By looking at the chart, we can conclude that 7L in the fifth house  from the

ASc in the rasi and from the Moon in the Nav indicates complete progenic

happiness "

 

But she does not have a wondering eye and no loss of children.

Chakraborty ji...sorry.. ..no strong case of social difference between her

husband and herself. both come from equally good families.

 

Radha S ji....well, now you know that she is happily married. No divorce or

seperation.

Ram ji....yes, can say a conventional marriage...but of course a happy one.

 

Krishnamurthi ji.....she married young.

Chiranjiv ji...no she is not involved in the stock market...She is a very good

house wife and a mother.

 

Neelam ji, I must mention that I enjoy reading your analysis...always

comprehensive , methodically explained and mostly accurate.

 

Bhagawathiji. ..you are correct 100%...but please teach us how you arrive at

such accuracy.

Thanks to everyone...

 

blessings,

Renu

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Dear Renu ji and group,That was an interesting exercise and good learning experience. Congrats Bhagvati ji for giving correct

statements with confidence. Now that Renu ji has revealed the facts, we can tread on with more

confidence. Let me try to review and probe a little deeper into the points that

I gave earlier.

//Marriage:

7H has 5L

venus and 11L mars. Exchange of

5L venus and 7L moonAspect of

Jupiter from 11H blessing the marriageFrom moon,

7L is with LL venus in 3H and Jup is in 7HIt is

mahadasha of Rahu, hence early/normal marriage and possibility of a

childbirth soon.//

Renuji

has confirmed the native had an early marriage. Rahu-sat is the first dasha that'll

give her marriage. Basically, her entire life has revolved around dad's decisions.

Here it is visible also. Now see these points:

Rahu is a marriage giving dasha generally

and Saturn is LL in 4H of father. Here rahu is mercury, 9L or father. 7L moon of natal chart is navamsha dispositor of LL Saturn and, Nav 7L Jup and

Sun.Jupiter aspects 7H of natal chart as well

as D-9.Jupiter is transiting her 7H, but note the LL saturn with Rahu in 8H (not a happy situation)

Saturn in 6/8 position with

7H and marriage in saturn's dasha with saturn transiting in 8H in leo, shows that she may not have been happy with

her dad's decision at that time. Renu ji must confirm this. 7L moon is also in 8H of navamsh.

Regarding Marital

Discord:

I think I got carried

by a lot of negative factors, but positive wins…. and in any case marriage is strongly indicated in her chart.

Probably, Jupiter/mars

have not given problem in 7H affairs as:

Jup-moon are friendly planets forming a gaj-kesri yoga and

remain in Kendra position in navamsh7L moon is exalted and with 9L mercury of bhagya and father, a

strong supportMars is dispositor of Jupiter and Jupiter aspects his sign of

exaltation where mars is posited. So probably, less harm came to 7H, but I am still not convinced

that there was no unhealthy verbosity or arguments in this period. Far too

many negative factors (given earlier) indicate this. Although she is well adjusted, being intelligent and courageous, there is something about the husband she was never happy about, at least initially??

For 5H related issues, it is clear that there will be problems:

6/8/12 influences are very strong on 5H, as said earlier.

Jupiter aspects 5H with an unfriendly eye.11H is maraksthan for 5H and 5L venus is with 7L/12L mars in

3H.Saptamsha gives a clear indication as inimical retrograde Jupiter

is posited in 5H.

The child would get some serious sickness immediately with the onset of Jup-Jup.

Since it comes from Jupiter it could be like an extra growing

tissue, tumour, etc. and would involve disease (6H), chronicity/malignancy

(8H) /hopitalisation (12H) and operations etc.

Saturn's dasha now started. Would take her away from her birth place.RegardsNeelam

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Dear Krishna ji,

 

The marriage took place during Ra/Sa/Su. She was 20+ years old when

she got married.

 

blessings

 

Renu

 

, Krishnamurthy

Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Renu ji,

>

>

> Thanks for providing the details about the native. Can you please

let us know at what age did she get married?

>

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> --- On Sun, 29/6/08, renunw <renunw wrote:

> renunw <renunw

> Re: Love marriage

>

> Sunday, 29 June, 2008, 12:55

>

> Dear learned members,

>

> Since this was not supposed to be a quiz  I will reveal how the

 exchange between 5HL & 7HL affected this particular lady. Before

that let me thank everyone who analyzed it. Each analysis is a

learning tool to others.

>

> First let me give 100% to Bhagawathi ji for her following analysis:

> " The native has a 5/7 parivartana. But I do not think she would

have

> had a love marriage as such. I also don't think she would have had

> any other affairs besides her marriage. She had her rahu dasa,

which

> should have given marriage. The transits were favorable during her

> Rahu/sat, if she was ready then it should have given her marriage

> otherwise sometime later in that dasa itself

>

>

> She could have married someone known to her or closer to her.Her

> marriage should be happy and complete with children. Her husband

> could be intelligent and well placed. "

>

>

> Now I will start with the following revealed by Neelam ji as her

dad had been  kind of influential to get her marriage partner.

> " father who may be strong and influential (9L and karak sun in 5H

with moon who is 11L from 9H moon and sun is 8L).  Father may be a

highly respected public figure "

>

> Her father was a well respected public figure who was the youngest

parlimentarian in the year 1960...soon after this lady was born. 

Unlike today, many a  politician of yesteryear were true statesmen.

> She did not have any affair as such...but has had school girl

crushes which were dropped then and there as she never wanted to

hurt her dad's feelings.  There were many boys after her but she

was nicknamed by them as " Major M... " ...which means that all of them

were dead scared of her.

>

> Yes, she got married in mahadasa of Rahu as Neelam ji and

Bhagawathi ji has rightly stated. In fact Bhagawathi ji has

mentioned that it was Rahu/Saturn which is absolutely correct.

Kindly tell how you arrived at it.

>

> First child was born in 1983.... a daughter as Neelam ji

 rightly mentioned in another mail. Then a son was born in 1984.

> Marriage is steady and to a known person...a favourite of her dad.

In fact a supporter of her dad's political campaign. Of course there

was  a love relationship. ...though not exactly a ' love affair'.

>

>

> Yes, Neelam ji,  she is good looking, bold and courageous but no

marital discords. Jupiter dasha was stressful to her and

husband as their son was very sick. Yes, marriage survived.  Her

courage was a support to her husband.  Neelam ji mentioned possible

marital discords in Jupiter dasha...well not exactly ...the problem

was their son's illness....in a way you are right here.

> Let me quote Neelam ji again...

>

> A high social status for the individual, infact like a birthright

(benefic5L/10L venus in 7H aspecting lagna and dispositor being an

exalted luminary in 5H of poorv punya) along with good looks, grace,

creativity etc. Good children, also having leadership qualities and

success written for them. Mercury moon in 5H aspected by Jup would

give creative skills in writing and speech.

>

>

> All correct...creative skills in speech...but she thinks her

writing ability is poor.

>

> Anantha Krishanan ji....you are correct to a certain extent...

> " By looking at the chart, we can conclude that 7L in the fifth

house  from the

> ASc in the rasi and from the Moon in the Nav indicates complete

progenic

> happiness "

>

> But she does not have a wondering eye and no loss of children.

> Chakraborty ji...sorry.. ..no strong case of social difference

between her husband and herself. both come from equally good

families.

>

> Radha S ji....well, now you know that she is happily married. No

divorce or seperation.

> Ram ji....yes, can say a conventional marriage...but of course a

happy one.

>

> Krishnamurthi ji.....she married young.

> Chiranjiv ji...no she is not involved in the stock market...She is

a very good house wife and a mother.

>

> Neelam ji, I must mention that I enjoy reading your

analysis...always comprehensive , methodically explained and mostly

accurate.

>

> Bhagawathiji. ..you are correct 100%...but please teach us how you

arrive at such accuracy.

> Thanks to everyone...

>

> blessings,

> Renu

>

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Dear Neelam ji,

Let me congratulate both you and Bhagawathi ji together!!!

Bhagawathi ji gave the correct interpretation regarding native's marriage. Now Neelam ji, you come with some amazing result...of course this part is NOT post-mortem by you as I never indicated the nature of sickness.

"For 5H related issues, it is clear that there will be problems.

Saptamsha gives a clear indication as inimical retrograde Jupiter is posited in 5H.The child would get some serious sickness immediately with the onset of Jup-Jup.

Since it comes from Jupiter it could be like an extra growing tissue, tumour, etc. and would involve disease (6H), chronicity/malignancy (8H) /hopitalisation (12H) and operations etc. "

The hilighted area is absolutely correct. But it started in Jupiter/Moon/Jupiter. For the child it was his Jupiter/Jupiter dasha.

Saturn in 6/8 position with 7H and marriage in saturn's dasha with saturn transiting in 8H in leo, shows that she may not have been happy with her dad's decision at that time. Renu ji must confirm this. 7L moon is also in 8H of navamsh.

 

She did not have any opposition to her dad's decision. In fact she had known this person for sometime as he had been on and off her home, helping her dad with election propaganda etc.

So probably, less harm came to 7H, but I am still not convinced that there was no unhealthy verbosity or arguments in this period. Far too many negative factors (given earlier) indicate this. Although she is well adjusted, being intelligent and courageous, there is something about the husband she was never happy about, at least initially??

Yes, initially...there were problems...when they were living in her husband's house. But she managed them well. Then she never liked his drinking habit. As you say, being intelligent she won over that too. Even now at times there are 'unhealthy verbosity or arguments'...but those are temporary....as soon as he goes to office he phones her and tries to make up for that:) I think these are normal, in a marriage...He is hardly at home during the day time..as is involved in many social activities. This annoys her a little.

Hope this clarifies your doubts, Neelam ji.

Blessings,

Renu

, "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Renu ji and group,> > That was an interesting exercise and good learning experience. Congrats> Bhagvati ji for giving correct statements with confidence.> > Now that Renu ji has revealed the facts, we can tread on with more> confidence. Let me try to review and probe a little deeper into the points> that I gave earlier.> > //Marriage:> > - 7H has 5L venus and 11L mars.> - Exchange of 5L venus and 7L moon> - Aspect of Jupiter from 11H blessing the marriage> - From moon, 7L is with LL venus in 3H and Jup is in 7H> - It is mahadasha of Rahu, hence early/normal marriage and possibility of> a childbirth soon.//> > Renuji has confirmed the native had an early marriage. Rahu-sat is the first> dasha that'll give her marriage. Basically, her entire life has revolved> around dad's decisions. Here it is visible also. Now see these points:> > - Rahu is a marriage giving dasha generally and Saturn is LL in 4H of> father. Here rahu is mercury, 9L or father.> - 7L moon of natal chart is navamsha dispositor of LL Saturn and, Nav 7L> Jup and Sun.> - Jupiter aspects 7H of natal chart as well as D-9.> - Jupiter is transiting her 7H, but note the LL saturn with Rahu in 8H> (not a happy situation)> > Saturn in 6/8 position with 7H and marriage in saturn's dasha with saturn> transiting in 8H in leo, shows that she may not have been happy with her> dad's decision at that time. Renu ji must confirm this. 7L moon is also in> 8H of navamsh.> > Regarding Marital Discord:> > I think I got carried by a lot of negative factors, but positive wins…. and> in any case marriage is strongly indicated in her chart.> > Probably, Jupiter/mars have not given problem in 7H affairs as:> > - Jup-moon are friendly planets forming a gaj-kesri yoga and remain in> Kendra position in navamsh> - 7L moon is exalted and with 9L mercury of bhagya and father, a strong> support> - Mars is dispositor of Jupiter and Jupiter aspects his sign of> exaltation where mars is posited.> > So probably, less harm came to 7H, but I am still not convinced that there> was no unhealthy verbosity or arguments in this period. Far too many> negative factors (given earlier) indicate this. Although she is well> adjusted, being intelligent and courageous, there is something about the> husband she was never happy about, at least initially??> > For 5H related issues, it is clear that there will be problems:> > - 6/8/12 influences are very strong on 5H, as said earlier.> - Jupiter aspects 5H with an unfriendly eye.> - 11H is maraksthan for 5H and 5L venus is with 7L/12L mars in 3H.> - Saptamsha gives a clear indication as inimical retrograde Jupiter is> posited in 5H.> The child would get some serious sickness immediately with the onset of> Jup-Jup.> - Since it comes from Jupiter it could be like an extra growing tissue,> tumour, etc. and would involve disease (6H), chronicity/malignancy (8H)> /hopitalisation (12H) and operations etc.> > Saturn's dasha now started. Would take her away from her birth place.> > Regards> Neelam>

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Dear Neelam ji,

"Saptamsha gives a clear indication as inimical retrograde Jupiter is posited in 5H.The child would get some serious sickness immediately with the onset of Jup-Jup."

Although earlier I mentioned that this started in Ju/Mo.....the diagnosis was in Ju/Ma. I thought I should clarify this...

blessings

Renu

 

, "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Renu ji and group,> > That was an interesting exercise and good learning experience. Congrats> Bhagvati ji for giving correct statements with confidence.> > Now that Renu ji has revealed the facts, we can tread on with more> confidence. Let me try to review and probe a little deeper into the points> that I gave earlier.> > //Marriage:> > - 7H has 5L venus and 11L mars.> - Exchange of 5L venus and 7L moon> - Aspect of Jupiter from 11H blessing the marriage> - From moon, 7L is with LL venus in 3H and Jup is in 7H> - It is mahadasha of Rahu, hence early/normal marriage and possibility of> a childbirth soon.//> > Renuji has confirmed the native had an early marriage. Rahu-sat is the first> dasha that'll give her marriage. Basically, her entire life has revolved> around dad's decisions. Here it is visible also. Now see these points:> > - Rahu is a marriage giving dasha generally and Saturn is LL in 4H of> father. Here rahu is mercury, 9L or father.> - 7L moon of natal chart is navamsha dispositor of LL Saturn and, Nav 7L> Jup and Sun.> - Jupiter aspects 7H of natal chart as well as D-9.> - Jupiter is transiting her 7H, but note the LL saturn with Rahu in 8H> (not a happy situation)> > Saturn in 6/8 position with 7H and marriage in saturn's dasha with saturn> transiting in 8H in leo, shows that she may not have been happy with her> dad's decision at that time. Renu ji must confirm this. 7L moon is also in> 8H of navamsh.> > Regarding Marital Discord:> > I think I got carried by a lot of negative factors, but positive wins…. and> in any case marriage is strongly indicated in her chart.> > Probably, Jupiter/mars have not given problem in 7H affairs as:> > - Jup-moon are friendly planets forming a gaj-kesri yoga and remain in> Kendra position in navamsh> - 7L moon is exalted and with 9L mercury of bhagya and father, a strong> support> - Mars is dispositor of Jupiter and Jupiter aspects his sign of> exaltation where mars is posited.> > So probably, less harm came to 7H, but I am still not convinced that there> was no unhealthy verbosity or arguments in this period. Far too many> negative factors (given earlier) indicate this. Although she is well> adjusted, being intelligent and courageous, there is something about the> husband she was never happy about, at least initially??> > For 5H related issues, it is clear that there will be problems:> > - 6/8/12 influences are very strong on 5H, as said earlier.> - Jupiter aspects 5H with an unfriendly eye.> - 11H is maraksthan for 5H and 5L venus is with 7L/12L mars in 3H.> - Saptamsha gives a clear indication as inimical retrograde Jupiter is> posited in 5H.> The child would get some serious sickness immediately with the onset of> Jup-Jup.> - Since it comes from Jupiter it could be like an extra growing tissue,> tumour, etc. and would involve disease (6H), chronicity/malignancy (8H)> /hopitalisation (12H) and operations etc.> > Saturn's dasha now started. Would take her away from her birth place.> > Regards> Neelam>

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Respected Renuji,

 

Thank you for the nice exercise in support of the discussion. The

best part we learn from this chart is not to apply any dictums

straight. As regards, marriage during rahu/Sat, the dasa/antara was

favorable and more than that a highly favorable transit of jupiter

that time. The subsequent antaras favored her happiness from family

life and hence I arrived at that. However, honestly speaking, I may

not be able to predict the exact date of her marriage now- maybe in

future. So I still have a long way to go to put a feather on my cap.

It is indeed a great learning experience.

 

Regards,

 

bhagavathi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " renunw "

<renunw wrote:

>

>

> Dear learned members,

>

> Since this was not supposed to be a quiz I will reveal how the

> exchange between 5HL & 7HL affected this particular lady. Before

that

> let me thank everyone who analyzed it. Each analysis is a learning

tool

> to others.

>

> First let me give 100% to Bhagawathi ji for her following analysis:

>

> " The native has a 5/7 parivartana. But I do not think she would have

> had a love marriage as such. I also don't think she would have had

> any other affairs besides her marriage. She had her rahu dasa, which

> should have given marriage. The transits were favorable during her

> Rahu/sat, if she was ready then it should have given her marriage

> otherwise sometime later in that dasa itself

>

> She could have married someone known to her or closer to her.Her

> marriage should be happy and complete with children. Her husband

> could be intelligent and well placed. "

>

>

> Now I will start with the following revealed by Neelam ji as her

dad had

> been kind of influential to get her marriage partner.

>

> " father who may be strong and influential (9L and karak sun in 5H

with

> moon who is 11L from 9H moon and sun is 8L). Father may be a highly

> respected public figure "

>

> Her father was a well respected public figure who was the youngest

> parlimentarian in the year 1960...soon after this lady was born.

Unlike

> today, many a politician of yesteryear were true statesmen.

>

> She did not have any affair as such...but has had school girl

crushes

> which were dropped then and there as she never wanted to hurt her

dad's

> feelings. There were many boys after her but she was nicknamed by

them

> as " Major M... " ...which means that all of them were dead scared of

her.

>

> Yes, she got married in mahadasa of Rahu as Neelam ji and

Bhagawathi ji

> has rightly stated. In fact Bhagawathi ji has mentioned that it was

> Rahu/Saturn which is absolutely correct. Kindly tell how you

arrived at

> it.

>

> First child was born in 1983.... a daughter as Neelam ji rightly

> mentioned in another mail. Then a son was born in 1984.

>

> Marriage is steady and to a known person...a favourite of her dad.

In

> fact a supporter of her dad's political campaign. Of course there

was a

> love relationship....though not exactly a ' love affair'.

>

>

> Yes, Neelam ji, she is good looking, bold and courageous but no

marital

> discords. Jupiter dasha was stressful to her and husband as their

son

> was very sick. Yes, marriage survived. Her courage was a support

to her

> husband. Neelam ji mentioned possible marital discords in Jupiter

> dasha...well not exactly ...the problem was their son's

illness....in a

> way you are right here.

>

> Let me quote Neelam ji again...

> A high social status for the individual, infact like a birthright

> (benefic5L/10L venus in 7H aspecting lagna and dispositor being an

> exalted luminary in 5H of poorv punya) along with good looks, grace,

> creativity etc. Good children, also having leadership qualities and

> success written for them. Mercury moon in 5H aspected by Jup would

give

> creative skills in writing and speech.

>

> All correct...creative skills in speech...but she thinks her writing

> ability is poor.

>

> Anantha Krishanan ji....you are correct to a certain extent...

>

> " By looking at the chart, we can conclude that 7L in the fifth

house

> from the

> ASc in the rasi and from the Moon in the Nav indicates complete

progenic

> happiness "

>

> But she does not have a wondering eye and no loss of children.

>

> Chakraborty ji...sorry....no strong case of social difference

between

> her husband and herself. both come from equally good families.

>

> Radha S ji....well, now you know that she is happily married. No

divorce

> or seperation.

>

> Ram ji....yes, can say a conventional marriage...but of course a

happy

> one.

>

> Krishnamurthi ji.....she married young.

>

> Chiranjiv ji...no she is not involved in the stock market...She is a

> very good house wife and a mother.

>

> Neelam ji, I must mention that I enjoy reading your

analysis...always

> comprehensive , methodically explained and mostly accurate.

>

> Bhagawathiji...you are correct 100% ...but please teach us how you

> arrive at such accuracy.

>

> Thanks to everyone...

>

> blessings,

>

> Renu

>

, " neelam gupta "

> <neelamgupta07@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Renu ji,

> >

> > Here's my attempt to judge this 5/7 parivartan:

> >

> > - An affair which may not have resulted in marriage.

> > - Could've faced marital discords.

> >

> > Marriage:

> >

> > - 7H has 5L venus and 11L mars.

> > - Exchange of 5L venus and 7L moon

> > - Aspect of Jupiter from 11H blessing the marriage

> > - From moon, 7L is with LL venus in 3H and Jup is in 7H

> > - It is mahadasha of Rahu, hence early/normal marriage and

possibility

> > of a childbirth soon.

> >

> > Affair:

> >

> > - Venus as 5L in 7H with 11L mars is said to give multiple

affairs.

> > - 8L sun and 6L mer in 5H and both moon and mercury are combust

with

> 8L.

> > - Benefic Jupiter is retrograde

> > - From moon, rahu is in 5H and retrograde 9L/10L saturn aspects

from

> 8H.

> > - A retrograde 8L is in 7H aspecting 5L in lagna

> >

> > An abortive affair, there could be obstacles and opposition …

> religion,

> > family or father who may be strong and influential (9L and karak

sun

> in 5H

> > with moon who is 11L from 9H moon and sun is 8L). Father may be a

> highly

> > respected public figure and may oppose the marriage of choice.

> >

> > - In Navamsh both 5L sat and 7L jup are in 11H showing an affair,

but

> 12L

> > sun is conjunct and dispositor moon is in 8H. Again showing an

affair

> > that was dropped.

> >

> > The affair giving dasha is of Rahu. So checking from Rahu:

> >

> > - 5H is aspected by 8L mars and 5L is in 12th from 5th. No benefic

> > aspect.

> > - There is ketu in 7H of marriage has no relation with 5H/5L.

> > - Rahu dasha does not appear to be conducive for affair that

leads to

> > marriage.

> >

> > Regarding marriage, there might be some problems:

> >

> > - A natural and functional malefic and debilitated mars is in 7H

from

> > lagna and is 7L from moon.

> > - Mars is 8L of navamsh and is in lagna in navamsh

> > - 7L combust with 8L sun and 6L mer, both dry planets and lords of

> trik

> > houses.

> > - LL and 7L are in 6/8 position

> > - Jup is retro and its aspect is of 12L and 3L.

> > - From moon 7H has 8L jup

> > - 7L moon is in 8H in navamsh

> >

> > A good looking, bold and courageous woman who wants to live life

her

> own

> > way, might get into troubles with spouse.

> > There might have been marital discords, specially in Jupiter's

dasha.

> But

> > marriage could've survived.

> > If at all the first marriage broke...she would've got married

again.

> >

> > Regards

> > Neelam

> >

>

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Dear Bhagavathi ji,

 

Your simple and straightforward approach in analysing a chart is

definitely commendable as on many a occassion you have proved to be

accurate. It shows that one need not get confused with numerous

conflicting dictums, but approach the chart with an open mind but not

forgetting the basics. ....but of course it's a gift ...no doubt that

you possess!

 

Thanks for revealing your simple but accurate method of analysing.

 

blessings

 

Renu

 

 

 

 

, " bhagavathi_hariharan "

<bhagavathi_hariharan wrote:

>

> Respected Renuji,

>

> Thank you for the nice exercise in support of the discussion. The

> best part we learn from this chart is not to apply any dictums

> straight. As regards, marriage during rahu/Sat, the dasa/antara was

> favorable and more than that a highly favorable transit of jupiter

> that time. The subsequent antaras favored her happiness from family

> life and hence I arrived at that. However, honestly speaking, I may

> not be able to predict the exact date of her marriage now- maybe in

> future. So I still have a long way to go to put a feather on my cap.

> It is indeed a great learning experience.

>

> Regards,

>

> bhagavathi

>

>

, " renunw "

> renunw@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear learned members,

> >

> > Since this was not supposed to be a quiz I will reveal how the

> > exchange between 5HL & 7HL affected this particular lady. Before

> that

> > let me thank everyone who analyzed it. Each analysis is a learning

> tool

> > to others.

> >

> > First let me give 100% to Bhagawathi ji for her following analysis:

> >

> > " The native has a 5/7 parivartana. But I do not think she would have

> > had a love marriage as such. I also don't think she would have had

> > any other affairs besides her marriage. She had her rahu dasa, which

> > should have given marriage. The transits were favorable during her

> > Rahu/sat, if she was ready then it should have given her marriage

> > otherwise sometime later in that dasa itself

> >

> > She could have married someone known to her or closer to her.Her

> > marriage should be happy and complete with children. Her husband

> > could be intelligent and well placed. "

> >

> >

> > Now I will start with the following revealed by Neelam ji as her

> dad had

> > been kind of influential to get her marriage partner.

> >

> > " father who may be strong and influential (9L and karak sun in 5H

> with

> > moon who is 11L from 9H moon and sun is 8L). Father may be a highly

> > respected public figure "

> >

> > Her father was a well respected public figure who was the youngest

> > parlimentarian in the year 1960...soon after this lady was born.

> Unlike

> > today, many a politician of yesteryear were true statesmen.

> >

> > She did not have any affair as such...but has had school girl

> crushes

> > which were dropped then and there as she never wanted to hurt her

> dad's

> > feelings. There were many boys after her but she was nicknamed by

> them

> > as " Major M... " ...which means that all of them were dead scared of

> her.

> >

> > Yes, she got married in mahadasa of Rahu as Neelam ji and

> Bhagawathi ji

> > has rightly stated. In fact Bhagawathi ji has mentioned that it was

> > Rahu/Saturn which is absolutely correct. Kindly tell how you

> arrived at

> > it.

> >

> > First child was born in 1983.... a daughter as Neelam ji rightly

> > mentioned in another mail. Then a son was born in 1984.

> >

> > Marriage is steady and to a known person...a favourite of her dad.

> In

> > fact a supporter of her dad's political campaign. Of course there

> was a

> > love relationship....though not exactly a ' love affair'.

> >

> >

> > Yes, Neelam ji, she is good looking, bold and courageous but no

> marital

> > discords. Jupiter dasha was stressful to her and husband as their

> son

> > was very sick. Yes, marriage survived. Her courage was a support

> to her

> > husband. Neelam ji mentioned possible marital discords in Jupiter

> > dasha...well not exactly ...the problem was their son's

> illness....in a

> > way you are right here.

> >

> > Let me quote Neelam ji again...

> > A high social status for the individual, infact like a birthright

> > (benefic5L/10L venus in 7H aspecting lagna and dispositor being an

> > exalted luminary in 5H of poorv punya) along with good looks, grace,

> > creativity etc. Good children, also having leadership qualities and

> > success written for them. Mercury moon in 5H aspected by Jup would

> give

> > creative skills in writing and speech.

> >

> > All correct...creative skills in speech...but she thinks her writing

> > ability is poor.

> >

> > Anantha Krishanan ji....you are correct to a certain extent...

> >

> > " By looking at the chart, we can conclude that 7L in the fifth

> house

> > from the

> > ASc in the rasi and from the Moon in the Nav indicates complete

> progenic

> > happiness "

> >

> > But she does not have a wondering eye and no loss of children.

> >

> > Chakraborty ji...sorry....no strong case of social difference

> between

> > her husband and herself. both come from equally good families.

> >

> > Radha S ji....well, now you know that she is happily married. No

> divorce

> > or seperation.

> >

> > Ram ji....yes, can say a conventional marriage...but of course a

> happy

> > one.

> >

> > Krishnamurthi ji.....she married young.

> >

> > Chiranjiv ji...no she is not involved in the stock market...She is a

> > very good house wife and a mother.

> >

> > Neelam ji, I must mention that I enjoy reading your

> analysis...always

> > comprehensive , methodically explained and mostly accurate.

> >

> > Bhagawathiji...you are correct 100% ...but please teach us how you

> > arrive at such accuracy.

> >

> > Thanks to everyone...

> >

> > blessings,

> >

> > Renu

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " neelam gupta "

> > <neelamgupta07@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Renu ji,

> > >

> > > Here's my attempt to judge this 5/7 parivartan:

> > >

> > > - An affair which may not have resulted in marriage.

> > > - Could've faced marital discords.

> > >

> > > Marriage:

> > >

> > > - 7H has 5L venus and 11L mars.

> > > - Exchange of 5L venus and 7L moon

> > > - Aspect of Jupiter from 11H blessing the marriage

> > > - From moon, 7L is with LL venus in 3H and Jup is in 7H

> > > - It is mahadasha of Rahu, hence early/normal marriage and

> possibility

> > > of a childbirth soon.

> > >

> > > Affair:

> > >

> > > - Venus as 5L in 7H with 11L mars is said to give multiple

> affairs.

> > > - 8L sun and 6L mer in 5H and both moon and mercury are combust

> with

> > 8L.

> > > - Benefic Jupiter is retrograde

> > > - From moon, rahu is in 5H and retrograde 9L/10L saturn aspects

> from

> > 8H.

> > > - A retrograde 8L is in 7H aspecting 5L in lagna

> > >

> > > An abortive affair, there could be obstacles and opposition …

> > religion,

> > > family or father who may be strong and influential (9L and karak

> sun

> > in 5H

> > > with moon who is 11L from 9H moon and sun is 8L). Father may be a

> > highly

> > > respected public figure and may oppose the marriage of choice.

> > >

> > > - In Navamsh both 5L sat and 7L jup are in 11H showing an affair,

> but

> > 12L

> > > sun is conjunct and dispositor moon is in 8H. Again showing an

> affair

> > > that was dropped.

> > >

> > > The affair giving dasha is of Rahu. So checking from Rahu:

> > >

> > > - 5H is aspected by 8L mars and 5L is in 12th from 5th. No benefic

> > > aspect.

> > > - There is ketu in 7H of marriage has no relation with 5H/5L.

> > > - Rahu dasha does not appear to be conducive for affair that

> leads to

> > > marriage.

> > >

> > > Regarding marriage, there might be some problems:

> > >

> > > - A natural and functional malefic and debilitated mars is in 7H

> from

> > > lagna and is 7L from moon.

> > > - Mars is 8L of navamsh and is in lagna in navamsh

> > > - 7L combust with 8L sun and 6L mer, both dry planets and lords of

> > trik

> > > houses.

> > > - LL and 7L are in 6/8 position

> > > - Jup is retro and its aspect is of 12L and 3L.

> > > - From moon 7H has 8L jup

> > > - 7L moon is in 8H in navamsh

> > >

> > > A good looking, bold and courageous woman who wants to live life

> her

> > own

> > > way, might get into troubles with spouse.

> > > There might have been marital discords, specially in Jupiter's

> dasha.

> > But

> > > marriage could've survived.

> > > If at all the first marriage broke...she would've got married

> again.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Neelam

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Neelam ji,

12H is bed pleasures as well this house hold many secrets like secret

enemies.(6H IS FOR ENEMIES ,7H IS SEX AND BUSINESS PARTNERS

AS WELL OPEN ENEMIES/OR COMPETITORS)

5H is upchay to 12H, as such it promotes secret love affairs if under the

influence of Malefics.

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neelam gupta <neelamgupta07

 

Friday, 27 June, 2008 3:29:59 PM

Re: Re: Love marriage

 

 

Dear Goel ji,

 

//As 5H is Karka of secret love life , you have to examine this exchange

carefully.//

 

This is new and news!! I thought 5H was affairs, and if at all you need to

classify, they'll be of open affairs and romances.

 

Regards

Neelam

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Namaste Goel saab,

 

I still do NOT agree that 5H is linked to " Secrecy " . It is solely about

affairs. Secrecy is linked to 8H only. 5H as a upachaya house for

12H provides HINDRANCES to affairs THAN helping it. Why getting stuck

at Love & Romance.....extend it spiritual development or advancement of

the native.... 12H is also for expenses..... & how 5H can be related

to it.

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

 

 

, Gopal Goel

<gkgoel1937 wrote:

>

> Dear Neelam ji,

> 12H is bed pleasures as well this house hold many secrets like secret

enemies.(6H IS FOR ENEMIES ,7H IS SEX AND BUSINESS PARTNERS

> AS WELL OPEN ENEMIES/OR COMPETITORS)

> 5H is upchay to 12H, as such it promotes secret love affairs if under

the influence of Malefics.

> Regards,

>

> Â G.K.GOEL

 

 

> neelam gupta neelamgupta07

> Friday, 27 June, 2008 3:29:59 PM

> Re: Re: Love marriage

>

>

> Dear Goel ji,

>

> //As 5H is Karka of secret love life , you have to examine this

exchange carefully.//

>

> This is new and news!! I thought 5H was affairs, and if at all you

need to classify, they'll be of open affairs and romances.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

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Namaskar

 

Yes, I do agree with Sreeram_Srinivasji and Neelam ji that fifth

house indicates love and emotions. whereas the eighth house is of

secrecy. if malefics are present in the fifth house it indicates

that emotions for love may be reduced- further depends on the nature

of malefic present. especially in case when malefics are separative

too - like ketu. any affliction to the fifth house or its lord makes

person dry/disappointed in love or love comes late to his life[again

depends on nature of malefic present].

if fifth lord is in any manner associated with eighth house

indicates loss of love or secret love affair.

the seventh house indicates partnership and marriage is also

partnership and eighth house indicates intimacy.

the twelfth house is for bed pleasures.

for love affairs the third house - seventh house- and the eleventh

house should also considered as these three houses are kaama bhava.

I got good results when fifth and eleventh houses are analysed for

love affairs. and the events are then confirmed by the navamsha

chart too.

Yes, the fifth house governs spiritual advancement, Recreational and

creative aspects. it indicates entertainment, children--- etc etc so

When observed for Romance only then it is suggested to consider its

significator Venus too and its concerned divisional chart D-9 also.

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Dear Goelji and group,I would like to comment on Goelji's statement and clear certain misconceptions.

//No doubt 8H represent secrecy, 5H being 10H - ie Karma Bhava of 8H , PLAYS IMPORTANT ROLE IN ITS MANIFESTATION.//

We cannot say that 5H will give secret affairs just because it is karma of 8H / even if there is a connection with 8H.8H is much maligned and much dreaded house. Uttarkalamrit, assigns following significations to the 8H, which covers most of the significations given in other classics also.

Longevity, happiness, defeat, hidden, insurance bonus, an afflicted face, urinary disease, calamity, blame, brother's enemy, teasing a wife, a tuft of braided hair, enemy's fortress, misery, idleness, punishment from Government, fear, loss of money, giving a debt, other's money received out of ignorance, long-standing property, the appearance of a wicked man, sin, killing of a living being, multilation of a limb, decapitation, formidable affliction, a story that causes anxiety to the mind, misfortune, battle, intense mental trouble

8H is not for secrecy. It is only hidden (boohya). Like death is hidden, not secret. 8H can signify blame or a scandal (apvad). Hence scandulous marriage, and not secret marriage. Secrecy comes when there is also a connection of hidden (8H) with enemy (6H), spying (12H) etc. That is why 8H gives only the mode of death which is hidden and 3H (bhavat bhavam) gives further clues to that.

Having known these significations, first and foremost, we should never forget that 8H is 8th from lagna and all these significations of 8H are for and from lagna, like longevity…of self, happiness … of self, urinary disease…for self, misery ….of self…etc.

When 8L is in 5H, can we say that the native's children will have urinary disease? Or whether the native will inherit wealth or his child? Dasha of 8L of the native will give misery to the native or his child? Also, can we say that the native will have secret children?

As per classics, 6H, 8H and 12H are called trik houses and the principle given about them is:When trik lords fall in any house, they spoil the significations of that house and conversely it is said that whenever any house lord falls in trik houses, it is inauspicious for its own house.

Accordingly, 8L in different houses as per BPHS causes loss of significations of that particular house, and does not necessarily impose 8H significations over the specific results of that house (see below):1H: Native is devoid of physical felicity and will suffer from wounds.

2H: Native will be devoid of bodily vigour, will enjoy a little wealth and will not regain lost wealth.3H: Native will be devoid of fraternal happiness, be indolent and devoid of servants and strength.4H: The child will be deprived of its mother. He will be devoid of a house, lands and happiness

5H: Native will be dull witted, will have limited number of children, be long-lived and wealthy.6H: Native will win over his enemies, be afflicted by diseases and during childhood.7H: Native will have two wives. (could mean loss of one wife)

8H: Native will be long-lived.9H: Native will betray his religion, be a heterodox, will beget a wicked wife.10H: Native will be devoid of paternal bliss, and be bereft of livelihood. 95.11H: The native will be devoid of wealth and will be miserable in boyhood, but happy later on.

12H: Native will spend on evil deeds and will incur a short life.5H-8H relationship is a benefic, kendra relationship. 8H is sukhsthan of 5H and 5H is karma of 8H.

 

For the native 8L in 5H might mean loss of progeny or the native may not have progenic happiness.But for the children, 8H is supposed to give a clue about their education, happiness, vehicles, etc. Does it imply that all such things for children should have an element of secrecy? In fact, 5L in 8H is good for the child's sukh and happiness.

If 5H is affairs, 8L in 5H would mean abortive/unsuccessful affair or no affair for the individual per se. But for the affair, we cannot assign secrecy, etc. In fact, for affairs, 8H from 5H i.e. 12H will show hidden nature of affair and with 10L and 4L (6H and 12H from 5th) it will lead to secrecy. We can say that 12H is for hidden affairs (marital pleasures, etc hidden from public eye) and when linked with 10H and 4H it gives secret affairs (adultery).

Similarly, 5H is karma bhav for 8H. Hence in 5H it gives sadhna, mantra, etc if connected and benefic. For inherited wealth, 5H can show the karma to get it. For getting gains from insurance, 8H will show yes or no, but 5L will try to obtain/deny it. We can have many similar examples like this.

Between 5H-8H relationship there is no secret element for these two houses and their significations unless other influences indicate so.I hope this clarifies…RegardsNeelam

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Dear Goel ji,When you look at the secondary/tertiary significations, it has nothing to do with primary signification. If 8H means death as primary signification, it is also mangalya for 7H, being 2H from 7th, and also marak for spouse. If 8H means hidden, it is for lagna only, for mangalya of 8H, there's nothing hidden.

This is what I understand. Hope I am able to make it clear.RegardsNeelam 2008/7/7 Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937:

 

 

 

 

 

DEAR Neelam ji ,

 

Many thanks for clarifications.

 

Uttar Kalamirta indicate the signification of houses , which are primary in nature ,and also acquired ones i.e secondary in nature.e.g.

2H primarily represent family , speech and other means of sustenance.

2H is also Marka place , because it is 12H from 3H- SECONDARY signification.

 

10h will be operative for Primary signification and not the secondary signification.

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G.K.GOEL

 

 

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07

 

Saturday, 5 July, 2008 10:58:28 PM

Re: Re: Love marriage

 

Dear Goelji and group,

 

I would like to comment on Goelji's statement and clear certain misconceptions.

 

//No doubt 8H represent secrecy, 5H being 10H - ie Karma Bhava of 8H ,

PLAYS IMPORTANT ROLE IN ITS MANIFESTATION. //

We cannot say that 5H will give secret affairs just because it is karma of 8H / even if there is a connection with 8H.

 

8H is much maligned and much dreaded house. Uttarkalamrit, assigns following significations to the 8H, which covers most of the significations given in other classics also.

 

Longevity, happiness, defeat, hidden, insurance bonus, an afflicted face, urinary disease, calamity, blame, brother's enemy, teasing a wife, a tuft of braided hair, enemy's fortress, misery, idleness, punishment from Government, fear, loss of money, giving a debt, other's money received out of ignorance, long-standing property, the appearance of a wicked man, sin, killing of a living being, multilation of a limb, decapitation, formidable affliction, a story that causes anxiety to the mind, misfortune, battle, intense mental trouble

 

8H is not for secrecy. It is only hidden (boohya). Like death is hidden, not secret. 8H can signify blame or a scandal (apvad). Hence scandulous marriage, and not secret marriage. Secrecy comes when there is also a connection of hidden (8H) with enemy (6H), spying (12H) etc. That is why 8H gives only the mode of death which is hidden and 3H (bhavat bhavam) gives further clues to that.

 

Having known these significations, first and foremost, we should never forget that 8H is 8th from lagna and all these significations of 8H are for and from lagna, like longevity…of self, happiness … of self, urinary disease…for self, misery ….of self…etc.

 

When 8L is in 5H, can we say that the native's children will have urinary disease? Or whether the native will inherit wealth or his child? Dasha of 8L of the native will give misery to the native or his child? Also, can we say that the native will have secret children?

 

As per classics, 6H, 8H and 12H are called trik houses and the principle given about them is:

When trik lords fall in any house, they spoil the significations of that house and conversely it is said that whenever any house lord falls in trik houses, it is inauspicious for its own house.

 

Accordingly, 8L in different houses as per BPHS causes loss of significations of that particular house, and does not necessarily impose 8H significations over the specific results of that house (see below):

 

1H: Native is devoid of physical felicity and will suffer from wounds.

2H: Native will be devoid of bodily vigour, will enjoy a little wealth and will not regain lost wealth.

3H: Native will be devoid of fraternal happiness, be indolent and devoid of servants and strength.

4H: The child will be deprived of its mother. He will be devoid of a house, lands and happiness

5H: Native will be dull witted, will have limited number of children, be long-lived and wealthy.

6H: Native will win over his enemies, be afflicted by diseases and during childhood.

7H: Native will have two wives. (could mean loss of one wife)

8H: Native will be long-lived.

9H: Native will betray his religion, be a heterodox, will beget a wicked wife.

10H: Native will be devoid of paternal bliss, and be bereft of livelihood. 95.

11H: The native will be devoid of wealth and will be miserable in boyhood, but happy later on.

12H: Native will spend on evil deeds and will incur a short life.

 

5H-8H relationship is a benefic, kendra relationship.8H is sukhsthan of 5H and 5H is karma of 8H.

 

For the native 8L in 5H might mean loss of progeny or the native may not have progenic happiness.

But for the children, 8H is supposed to give a clue about their education, happiness, vehicles, etc. Does it imply that all such things for children should have an element of secrecy? In fact, 5L in 8H is good for the child's sukh and happiness.

 

If 5H is affairs, 8L in 5H would mean abortive/unsuccessf ul affair or no affair for the individual per se. But for the affair, we cannot assign secrecy, etc. In fact, for affairs, 8H from 5H i.e. 12H will show hidden nature of affair and with 10L and 4L (6H and 12H from 5th) it will lead to secrecy. We can say that 12H is for hidden affairs (marital pleasures, etc hidden from public eye) and when linked with 10H and 4H it gives secret affairs (adultery).

 

 

Similarly, 5H is karma bhav for 8H. Hence in 5H it gives sadhna, mantra, etc if connected and benefic. For inherited wealth, 5H can show the karma to get it. For getting gains from insurance, 8H will show yes or no, but 5L will try to obtain/deny it. We can have many similar examples like this.

 

Between 5H-8H relationship there is no secret element for these two houses and their significations unless other influences indicate so.

 

I hope this clarifies…

 

Regards

Neelam

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Dear Rakesh

 

Your 5th and UL lords are in Lagna alongwith 8th lord.7th lord too does

not have any connection with that.These indications shows difficulties

in your endeavour. Girls chart also is not showing indications of love

marriage.

 

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Ashok

, " rakeshthapiyal "

<rakeshthapiyal wrote:

>

> Respected Members, Please help me interpret my horoscope. i want to

> marry with my girlfriend but i face lots of hurdles show some light on

> our horoscopes . love marriage is possible or not

> me 20 noember 1983 brith time 7.45am delhi

> girlfriend 3-aprl-1988 time 8.22pm delhi

> regards

> rakesh thapiyal

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Respected Guruji,

 

I am a member of your group. I am also learning astrology and i am very much

interested to know which  planets decide love marriage or how can we say the

native is going to the

lave marriage.

 

Thank you,

Indra sharma

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear friend,

 

5th lord/ house/venus indicate love.

 

7th house/lord/venus indicate marriage.

 

Any link between these two set of factors shows love marriage.

 

Strength of the rasi lord where these two sets relate to each other

 

shows whether the love marriage will be successful and

 

long lasting one ?

 

With regards,

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

, Indra Sharma <sharmaindra2009

wrote:

>

> Respected Guruji,

>  

> I am a member of your group. I am also learning astrology and i am very much

interested to know which  planets decide love marriage or how can we say the

native is going to the

> lave marriage.

>  

> Thank you,

> Indra sharma

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Sir,

              Iam mailing from andhra pradesh.Iam sending my birth dittails pls

tellme about my job.When should i get good job?Which kind of job suitable for

me?How will be my financial position?

Birth name:Ch.Rathnakarrao

Birth date:28-04-1978.

Birth time:9-55pm.

Birth place:kazipet  

 

 

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Respected Sir

 

I am a member of this group. I was interested to see the analysis given by you

for ascertainment of love marriage in such a simple manner. As you said that the

relation b/w 5th and 7th indicated love marriage. In mychart I saw that the 5th

house is aspected by the 7th lord.So does it signify love marriage .

My details are:

DOB- 2ND JUNE 1985

TOB-11.40 pm

POB- Pahar Ganj,New Delhi

 

Best Regards

Geetika

 

 

 

 

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Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_mrutyunjay

 

Thursday, 18 June, 2009 1:21:52 PM

Re: love marriage

 

 

 

 

 

Dear friend,

 

5th lord/ house/venus indicate love.

 

7th house/lord/venus indicate marriage.

 

Any link between these two set of factors shows love marriage.

 

Strength of the rasi lord where these two sets relate to each other

 

shows whether the love marriage will be successful and

 

long lasting one ?

 

With regards,

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

, Indra Sharma <sharmaindra2009@ ...>

wrote:

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> Respected Guruji,

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> I am a member of your group. I am also learning astrology and i am very much

interested to know which  planets decide love marriage or how can we say the

native is going to the

> lave marriage.

>  

> Thank you,

> Indra sharma

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