Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

[Guest guest]

i have a question, usually other aircrafts too taken off at the same time

for thier respective destination, but why specially this one didnt reach.

 

Regards,

Gautam

 

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:08 PM, vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

 

>

>

> To All :

>

> The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

> Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

>

> 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

>

> 2) Rahu in 2nd,

>

> 3) Ketu in 8th,

>

> 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being

> under highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

>

> 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation

> with malefic Sun.

>

> 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had

> mutual aspect relation with Sun too.

>

> 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

> lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

>

> 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house

> in its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic

> Venus which was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

>

> Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose

> names begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

>

> l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

>

> retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

>

> h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

>

> l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

>

> v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

>

> a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

>

> Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu

> pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is

> hardly any chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong

> longevity combinations in his/her personal horoscope.

>

> Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

>

> 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal

> FPA, mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter

> enemy's house, in watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas

> of North Atlantic. Rio de Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in

> airy naadi.

>

> 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd

> house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in

> watery naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in

> bitter enemical sign with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th

> house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona.

> Saturn was lord of 8th and related to maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th,

> which made Saturn the main killer. The duration of 4th Nakshatra is from

> 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn and better

> maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

> given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5

> to 27 for the whole year).

>

> 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained

> crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis,

> and 6th lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close

> relation with Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of

> being lord of inauspicious 12th and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in

> 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd maarakesh Mars was in its

> mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with enmical Mercury in

> chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect on northern

> part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being lord

> of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

> around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well

> as reports.

>

> I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

> worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

> from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

> shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in

> the same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha

> Pravesha chart in those regions.

>

> Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news.

> Charts made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a

> strong turbulence struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted

> Venus in airy naadi entered 2nd house of Killer), just after which crash

> took place.

>

> Here are some news items scanned through internet

> <http://duard.com.br/blog/af-447-voo-airfrance-lista-de-passageiros-todo\

>

s-mortos.html/_45852693_plane_crash2_466<http://duard.com.br/blog/af-447-voo-air\

france-lista-de-passageiros-todos-mortos.html/_45852693_plane_crash2_466>>

> :

>

> 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

> according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

> Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

> Brazil.

>

> 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

>

> 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

>

> 1140 GMT: Brazil's air force says Flight AF 447 was " well

> advanced " over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

>

> 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical

> fault from the aircraft.

>

> 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused

> by the plane suffering a lightning strike.

>

> 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

> survivors from the flight is " very slim " .

>

> Here are some names who were onboard ;

>

> 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of

> ThyssenKrupp-Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

>

> 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

>

> 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

>

> 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

>

> 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank

> and Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto

> Alegre is a City in the South of Brazil)

>

> 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

>

> 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager

> of OI Phone Company

>

> 8.) Deise Possamai

>

> 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

>

> 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

>

> 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro

> II Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

>

> 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus

> Association - Italy

>

> 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige -

> Italy

>

> 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

>

> 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

>

> -Vinay Jha

> ======================= ======

>

>

[Guest guest]

This question is like another question that many persons are born at about the

same time but why their destinies are different.

 

The chart of take off was made from Rio de Janeiro. How many aircrafts took off

from Rio de Janeirp at the same time ? Slight change in time will make one or

two planets auspicious. This aircraft took off at the most inauspicious time

when all planets were bad.

 

Mundane charts show something bad related to areas around France and Brazil on

that very day. Hence, why other aircrafts not related to both Brazil and France

simultaneously should be affected ?

 

I presented a little known technique which works wonderfully.

 

-VJ

 

================= ====

 

 

________________________________

Gautam.Rampal <gautam.rampal

 

Tuesday, June 2, 2009 12:35:34 PM

Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

 

 

 

 

 

i have a question, usually other aircrafts too taken off at the same time

for thier respective destination, but why specially this one didnt reach.

 

Regards,

Gautam

 

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:08 PM, vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

 

>

>

> To All :

>

> The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

> Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

>

> 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

>

> 2) Rahu in 2nd,

>

> 3) Ketu in 8th,

>

> 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being

> under highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

>

> 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation

> with malefic Sun.

>

> 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had

> mutual aspect relation with Sun too.

>

> 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

> lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

>

> 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house

> in its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic

> Venus which was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

>

> Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose

> names begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

>

> l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

>

> retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

>

> h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

>

> l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

>

> v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

>

> a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

>

> Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu

> pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is

> hardly any chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong

> longevity combinations in his/her personal horoscope.

>

> Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

>

> 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal

> FPA, mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter

> enemy's house, in watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas

> of North Atlantic. Rio de Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in

> airy naadi.

>

> 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd

> house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in

> watery naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in

> bitter enemical sign with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th

> house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona.

> Saturn was lord of 8th and related to maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th,

> which made Saturn the main killer. The duration of 4th Nakshatra is from

> 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn and better

> maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

> given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5

> to 27 for the whole year).

>

> 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained

> crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis,

> and 6th lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close

> relation with Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of

> being lord of inauspicious 12th and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in

> 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd maarakesh Mars was in its

> mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with enmical Mercury in

> chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect on northern

> part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being lord

> of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

> around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well

> as reports.

>

> I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

> worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

> from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

> shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in

> the same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha

> Pravesha chart in those regions.

>

> Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news.

> Charts made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a

> strong turbulence struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted

> Venus in airy naadi entered 2nd house of Killer), just after which crash

> took place.

>

> Here are some news items scanned through internet

> <http://duard. com.br/blog/ af-447-voo- airfrance- lista-de- passageiros-

todo\

> s-mortos.html/ _45852693_ plane_crash2_ 466<http://duard. com.br/blog/

af-447-voo- airfrance- lista-de- passageiros- todos-mortos. html/_45852693_

plane_crash2_ 466>>

> :

>

> 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

> according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

> Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

> Brazil.

>

> 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

>

> 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

>

> 1140 GMT: Brazil's air force says Flight AF 447 was " well

> advanced " over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

>

> 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical

> fault from the aircraft.

>

> 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused

> by the plane suffering a lightning strike..

>

> 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

> survivors from the flight is " very slim " .

>

> Here are some names who were onboard ;

>

> 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of

> ThyssenKrupp- Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

>

> 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

>

> 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

>

> 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

>

> 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank

> and Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto

> Alegre is a City in the South of Brazil)

>

> 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

>

> 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager

> of OI Phone Company

>

> 8.) Deise Possamai

>

> 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

>

> 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

>

> 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro

> II Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

>

> 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus

> Association - Italy

>

> 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige -

> Italy

>

> 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

>

> 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

>

> -Vinay Jha

> ============ ========= == ======

>

>

[Guest guest]

VJ,

 

you made a good analysis, usually in international airports multiple flights

take off from different runways at the same time.

 

Gautam

 

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

 

>

>

> This question is like another question that many persons are born at about

> the same time but why their destinies are different.

>

> The chart of take off was made from Rio de Janeiro. How many aircrafts took

> off from Rio de Janeirp at the same time ? Slight change in time will make

> one or two planets auspicious. This aircraft took off at the most

> inauspicious time when all planets were bad.

>

> Mundane charts show something bad related to areas around France and Brazil

> on that very day. Hence, why other aircrafts not related to both Brazil and

> France simultaneously should be affected ?

>

> I presented a little known technique which works wonderfully.

>

> -VJ

>

> ================= ====

>

> ________________________________

> Gautam.Rampal <gautam.rampal <gautam.rampal%40gmail.com>>

> <%40>

> Tuesday, June 2, 2009 12:35:34 PM

> Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

>

>

> i have a question, usually other aircrafts too taken off at the same time

> for thier respective destination, but why specially this one didnt reach.

>

> Regards,

> Gautam

>

> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:08 PM, vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16@ >

> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > To All :

> >

> > The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

> > Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

> >

> > 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

> >

> > 2) Rahu in 2nd,

> >

> > 3) Ketu in 8th,

> >

> > 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being

> > under highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

> >

> > 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation

> > with malefic Sun.

> >

> > 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had

> > mutual aspect relation with Sun too.

> >

> > 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

> > lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

> >

> > 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house

> > in its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic

> > Venus which was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

> >

> > Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose

> > names begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

> >

> > l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

> >

> > retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

> >

> > h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

> >

> > l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

> >

> > v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

> >

> > a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

> >

> > Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu

> > pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is

> > hardly any chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong

> > longevity combinations in his/her personal horoscope.

> >

> > Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

> >

> > 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal

> > FPA, mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter

> > enemy's house, in watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas

> > of North Atlantic. Rio de Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in

> > airy naadi.

> >

> > 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd

> > house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in

> > watery naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in

> > bitter enemical sign with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th

> > house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona.

> > Saturn was lord of 8th and related to maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th,

> > which made Saturn the main killer. The duration of 4th Nakshatra is from

> > 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn and better

> > maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

> > given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5

> > to 27 for the whole year).

> >

> > 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained

> > crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis,

> > and 6th lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close

> > relation with Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of

> > being lord of inauspicious 12th and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in

> > 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd maarakesh Mars was in its

> > mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with enmical Mercury in

> > chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect on northern

> > part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being lord

> > of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

> > around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well

> > as reports.

> >

> > I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

> > worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

> > from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

> > shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in

> > the same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha

> > Pravesha chart in those regions.

> >

> > Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news.

> > Charts made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a

> > strong turbulence struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted

> > Venus in airy naadi entered 2nd house of Killer), just after which crash

> > took place.

> >

> > Here are some news items scanned through internet

> > <http://duard. com.br/blog/ af-447-voo- airfrance- lista-de-

> passageiros- todo\

> > s-mortos.html/ _45852693_ plane_crash2_ 466<http://duard.

com.br/blog/af-447-voo- airfrance- lista-de- passageiros- todos-mortos.

html/_45852693_

> plane_crash2_ 466>>

>

> > :

> >

> > 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

> > according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

> > Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

> > Brazil.

> >

> > 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

> >

> > 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

> >

> > 1140 GMT: Brazil's air force says Flight AF 447 was " well

> > advanced " over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

> >

> > 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical

> > fault from the aircraft.

> >

> > 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused

> > by the plane suffering a lightning strike..

> >

> > 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

> > survivors from the flight is " very slim " .

> >

> > Here are some names who were onboard ;

> >

> > 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of

> > ThyssenKrupp- Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

> >

> > 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

> >

> > 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

> >

> > 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

> >

> > 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank

> > and Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto

> > Alegre is a City in the South of Brazil)

> >

> > 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

> >

> > 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager

> > of OI Phone Company

> >

> > 8.) Deise Possamai

> >

> > 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

> >

> > 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

> >

> > 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro

> > II Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

> >

> > 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus

> > Association - Italy

> >

> > 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige -

> > Italy

> >

> > 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

> >

> > 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

> >

> > -Vinay Jha

> > ============ ========= == ======

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

There are strict flight regulation rules in force everywhere. No two

commercial flights can be allowed to take off for same destination from

same place simultaneously.

 

My analysis showed affliction of Brazil and areas around france for that time,

and main chart was based for a particular moment at Rio de Janeiro.

 

A little known method has been buried under a useless discussion on flight

regulation rules. Now, no one will read the original article. I am sorry to have

wasted my time.

 

 

-vj

 

 

________________________________

Gautam.Rampal <gautam.rampal

 

Tuesday, June 2, 2009 2:07:29 PM

Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

 

 

 

 

 

VJ,

 

you made a good analysis, usually in international airports multiple flights

take off from different runways at the same time.

 

Gautam

 

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

 

>

>

> This question is like another question that many persons are born at about

> the same time but why their destinies are different.

>

> The chart of take off was made from Rio de Janeiro. How many aircrafts took

> off from Rio de Janeirp at the same time ? Slight change in time will make

> one or two planets auspicious. This aircraft took off at the most

> inauspicious time when all planets were bad.

>

> Mundane charts show something bad related to areas around France and Brazil

> on that very day. Hence, why other aircrafts not related to both Brazil and

> France simultaneously should be affected ?

>

> I presented a little known technique which works wonderfully.

>

> -VJ

>

> ============ ===== ====

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Gautam.Rampal <gautam.rampal@ gmail.com <gautam.rampal% 40gmail.com> >

> <% 40. com>

> Tuesday, June 2, 2009 12:35:34 PM

> Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

>

>

> i have a question, usually other aircrafts too taken off at the same time

> for thier respective destination, but why specially this one didnt reach.

>

> Regards,

> Gautam

>

> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:08 PM, vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16@ >

> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > To All :

> >

> > The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

> > Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

> >

> > 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

> >

> > 2) Rahu in 2nd,

> >

> > 3) Ketu in 8th,

> >

> > 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being

> > under highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

> >

> > 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation

> > with malefic Sun.

> >

> > 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had

> > mutual aspect relation with Sun too.

> >

> > 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

> > lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

> >

> > 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house

> > in its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic

> > Venus which was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

> >

> > Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose

> > names begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

> >

> > l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

> >

> > retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

> >

> > h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

> >

> > l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

> >

> > v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

> >

> > a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

> >

> > Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu

> > pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is

> > hardly any chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong

> > longevity combinations in his/her personal horoscope.

> >

> > Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

> >

> > 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal

> > FPA, mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter

> > enemy's house, in watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas

> > of North Atlantic. Rio de Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in

> > airy naadi.

> >

> > 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd

> > house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in

> > watery naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in

> > bitter enemical sign with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th

> > house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona.

> > Saturn was lord of 8th and related to maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th,

> > which made Saturn the main killer. The duration of 4th Nakshatra is from

> > 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn and better

> > maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

> > given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5

> > to 27 for the whole year).

> >

> > 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained

> > crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis,

> > and 6th lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close

> > relation with Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of

> > being lord of inauspicious 12th and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in

> > 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd maarakesh Mars was in its

> > mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with enmical Mercury in

> > chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect on northern

> > part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being lord

> > of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

> > around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well

> > as reports.

> >

> > I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

> > worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

> > from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

> > shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in

> > the same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha

> > Pravesha chart in those regions.

> >

> > Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news.

> > Charts made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a

> > strong turbulence struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted

> > Venus in airy naadi entered 2nd house of Killer), just after which crash

> > took place.

> >

> > Here are some news items scanned through internet

> > <http://duard. com.br/blog/ af-447-voo- airfrance- lista-de-

> passageiros- todo\

> > s-mortos.html/ _45852693_ plane_crash2_ 466<http://duard. com.br/blog/

af-447-voo- airfrance- lista-de- passageiros- todos-mortos. html/_45852693_

> plane_crash2_ 466>>

>

> > :

> >

> > 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

> > according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

> > Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

> > Brazil.

> >

> > 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

> >

> > 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

> >

> > 1140 GMT: Brazil's air force says Flight AF 447 was " well

> > advanced " over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

> >

> > 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical

> > fault from the aircraft.

> >

> > 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused

> > by the plane suffering a lightning strike..

> >

> > 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

> > survivors from the flight is " very slim " .

> >

> > Here are some names who were onboard ;

> >

> > 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of

> > ThyssenKrupp- Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

> >

> > 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

> >

> > 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

> >

> > 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

> >

> > 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank

> > and Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto

> > Alegre is a City in the South of Brazil)

> >

> > 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

> >

> > 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager

> > of OI Phone Company

> >

> > 8.) Deise Possamai

> >

> > 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

> >

> > 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

> >

> > 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro

> > II Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

> >

> > 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus

> > Association - Italy

> >

> > 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige -

> > Italy

> >

> > 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

> >

> > 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

> >

> > -Vinay Jha

> > ============ ========= == ======

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

sorry to comment on this. But the actual real good astrologer is one

who predicts the event well in advance and try to caution the victim.

Doing post mortem of the event is not that gr8 astrology that anybody

can do.

 

--shekar.B

 

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:09 PM, vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

>

> To All :

>

> The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

> Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

>

> 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

>

> 2) Rahu in 2nd,

>

> 3) Ketu in 8th,

>

> 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being

> under highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

>

> 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation

> with malefic Sun.

>

> 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had

> mutual aspect relation with Sun too.

>

> 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

> lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

>

> 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house

> in its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic

> Venus which was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

>

> Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose

> names begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

>

> l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

>

> retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

>

> h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

>

> l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

>

> v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

>

> a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

>

> Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu

> pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is

> hardly any chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong

> longevity combinations in his/her personal horoscope.

>

> Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

>

> 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal

> FPA, mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter

> enemy's house, in watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas

> of North Atlantic. Rio de Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in

> airy naadi.

>

> 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd

> house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in

> watery naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in

> bitter enemical sign with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th

> house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona.

> Saturn was lord of 8th and related to maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th,

> which made Saturn the main killer. The duration of 4th Nakshatra is from

> 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn and better

> maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

> given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5

> to 27 for the whole year).

>

> 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained

> crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis,

> and 6th lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close

> relation with Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of

> being lord of inauspicious 12th and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in

> 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd maarakesh Mars was in its

> mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with enmical Mercury in

> chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect on northern

> part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being lord

> of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

> around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well

> as reports.

>

> I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

> worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

> from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

> shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in

> the same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha

> Pravesha chart in those regions.

>

> Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news.

> Charts made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a

> strong turbulence struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted

> Venus in airy naadi entered 2nd house of Killer), just after which crash

> took place.

>

> Here are some news items scanned through internet

> <http://duard.com.br/blog/af-447-voo-airfrance-lista-de-passageiros-todo\

> s-mortos.html/_45852693_plane_crash2_466> :

>

> 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

> according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

> Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

> Brazil.

>

> 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

>

> 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

>

> 1140 GMT: Brazil's air force says Flight AF 447 was " well

> advanced " over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

>

> 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical

> fault from the aircraft.

>

> 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused

> by the plane suffering a lightning strike.

>

> 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

> survivors from the flight is " very slim " .

>

> Here are some names who were onboard ;

>

> 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of

> ThyssenKrupp-Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

>

> 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

>

> 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

>

> 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

>

> 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank

> and Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto

> Alegre is a City in the South of Brazil)

>

> 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

>

> 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager

> of OI Phone Company

>

> 8.) Deise Possamai

>

> 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

>

> 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

>

> 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro

> II Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

>

> 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus

> Association - Italy

>

> 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige -

> Italy

>

> 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

>

> 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

>

> -Vinay Jha

> ======================= ======

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am sorry if i have raised wrong question.

 

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

 

>

>

> There are strict flight regulation rules in force everywhere. No two

> commercial flights can be allowed to take off for same destination from

> same place simultaneously.

>

> My analysis showed affliction of Brazil and areas around france for that

> time, and main chart was based for a particular moment at Rio de Janeiro.

>

> A little known method has been buried under a useless discussion on flight

> regulation rules. Now, no one will read the original article. I am sorry to

> have wasted my time.

>

> -vj

>

>

> ________________________________

> Gautam.Rampal <gautam.rampal <gautam.rampal%40gmail.com>>

> <%40>

> Tuesday, June 2, 2009 2:07:29 PM

> Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

>

> VJ,

>

> you made a good analysis, usually in international airports multiple

> flights

> take off from different runways at the same time.

>

> Gautam

>

> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > This question is like another question that many persons are born at

> about

> > the same time but why their destinies are different.

> >

> > The chart of take off was made from Rio de Janeiro. How many aircrafts

> took

> > off from Rio de Janeirp at the same time ? Slight change in time will

> make

> > one or two planets auspicious. This aircraft took off at the most

> > inauspicious time when all planets were bad.

> >

> > Mundane charts show something bad related to areas around France and

> Brazil

> > on that very day. Hence, why other aircrafts not related to both Brazil

> and

> > France simultaneously should be affected ?

> >

> > I presented a little known technique which works wonderfully.

> >

> > -VJ

> >

> > ============ ===== ====

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Gautam.Rampal <gautam.rampal@ gmail.com <gautam.rampal%

> 40gmail.com> >

> > <% 40.

> com>

>

> > Tuesday, June 2, 2009 12:35:34 PM

> > Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

> >

> >

> > i have a question, usually other aircrafts too taken off at the same time

> > for thier respective destination, but why specially this one didnt reach.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Gautam

> >

> > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:08 PM, vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16@ >

> > wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > To All :

> > >

> > > The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

> > > Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

> > >

> > > 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

> > >

> > > 2) Rahu in 2nd,

> > >

> > > 3) Ketu in 8th,

> > >

> > > 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being

> > > under highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

> > >

> > > 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation

> > > with malefic Sun.

> > >

> > > 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had

> > > mutual aspect relation with Sun too.

> > >

> > > 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

> > > lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

> > >

> > > 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th

> house

> > > in its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic

> > > Venus which was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

> > >

> > > Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose

> > > names begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

> > >

> > > l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

> > >

> > > retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer

> Moon)

> > >

> > > h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

> > >

> > > l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

> > >

> > > v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

> > >

> > > a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

> > >

> > > Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu

> > > pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is

> > > hardly any chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong

> > > longevity combinations in his/her personal horoscope.

> > >

> > > Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

> > >

> > > 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal

> > > FPA, mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter

> > > enemy's house, in watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining

> areas

> > > of North Atlantic. Rio de Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in

> > > airy naadi.

> > >

> > > 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time,

> 3rd

> > > house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in

> > > watery naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in

> > > bitter enemical sign with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th

> > > house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona.

> > > Saturn was lord of 8th and related to maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th,

> > > which made Saturn the main killer. The duration of 4th Nakshatra is

> from

> > > 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn and better

> > > maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

> > > given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5

> > > to 27 for the whole year).

> > >

> > > 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which

> contained

> > > crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis,

> > > and 6th lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close

> > > relation with Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of

> > > being lord of inauspicious 12th and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in

> > > 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd maarakesh Mars was in its

> > > mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with enmical Mercury in

> > > chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect on

> northern

> > > part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being lord

> > > of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic,

> esp

> > > around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well

> > > as reports.

> > >

> > > I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

> > > worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

> > > from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

> > > shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in

> > > the same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha

> > > Pravesha chart in those regions.

> > >

> > > Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news.

> > > Charts made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a

> > > strong turbulence struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted

> > > Venus in airy naadi entered 2nd house of Killer), just after which

> crash

> > > took place.

> > >

> > > Here are some news items scanned through internet

> > > <http://duard. com.br/blog/ af-447-voo- airfrance- lista-de-

> > passageiros- todo\

> > > s-mortos.html/ _45852693_ plane_crash2_ 466<http://duard.

com.br/blog/af-447-voo- airfrance- lista-de- passageiros- todos-mortos.

html/_45852693_

> > plane_crash2_ 466>>

> >

> > > :

> > >

> > > 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

> > > according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

> > > Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

> > > Brazil.

> > >

> > > 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

> > >

> > > 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

> > >

> > > 1140 GMT: Brazil's air force says Flight AF 447 was " well

> > > advanced " over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

> > >

> > > 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical

> > > fault from the aircraft.

> > >

> > > 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused

> > > by the plane suffering a lightning strike..

> > >

> > > 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

> > > survivors from the flight is " very slim " .

> > >

> > > Here are some names who were onboard ;

> > >

> > > 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of

> > > ThyssenKrupp- Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

> > >

> > > 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

> > >

> > > 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

> > >

> > > 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

> > >

> > > 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank

> > > and Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto

> > > Alegre is a City in the South of Brazil)

> > >

> > > 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

> > >

> > > 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager

> > > of OI Phone Company

> > >

> > > 8.) Deise Possamai

> > >

> > > 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

> > >

> > > 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

> > >

> > > 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don

> Pedro

> > > II Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

> > >

> > > 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus

> > > Association - Italy

> > >

> > > 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige -

> > > Italy

> > >

> > > 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

> > >

> > > 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

> > >

> > > -Vinay Jha

> > > ============ ========= == ======

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hello everyone,

 

 

Does any body have this Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software.

 

Thanks

 

kumar

 

--- On Tue, 2/6/09, Gautam.Rampal <gautam.rampal wrote:

 

Gautam.Rampal <gautam.rampal

Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

 

Tuesday, 2 June, 2009, 9:29 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I am sorry if i have raised wrong question.

 

 

 

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

 

 

 

>

 

>

 

> There are strict flight regulation rules in force everywhere. No two

 

> commercial flights can be allowed to take off for same destination from

 

> same place simultaneously.

 

>

 

> My analysis showed affliction of Brazil and areas around france for that

 

> time, and main chart was based for a particular moment at Rio de Janeiro.

 

>

 

> A little known method has been buried under a useless discussion on flight

 

> regulation rules. Now, no one will read the original article. I am sorry to

 

> have wasted my time.

 

>

 

> -vj

 

>

 

>

 

> ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> Gautam.Rampal <gautam.rampal@ gmail.com <gautam.rampal% 40gmail.com> >

 

> <% 40. com>

 

> Tuesday, June 2, 2009 2:07:29 PM

 

> Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

 

>

 

> VJ,

 

>

 

> you made a good analysis, usually in international airports multiple

 

> flights

 

> take off from different runways at the same time.

 

>

 

> Gautam

 

>

 

> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

 

>

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > This question is like another question that many persons are born at

 

> about

 

> > the same time but why their destinies are different.

 

> >

 

> > The chart of take off was made from Rio de Janeiro. How many aircrafts

 

> took

 

> > off from Rio de Janeirp at the same time ? Slight change in time will

 

> make

 

> > one or two planets auspicious. This aircraft took off at the most

 

> > inauspicious time when all planets were bad.

 

> >

 

> > Mundane charts show something bad related to areas around France and

 

> Brazil

 

> > on that very day. Hence, why other aircrafts not related to both Brazil

 

> and

 

> > France simultaneously should be affected ?

 

> >

 

> > I presented a little known technique which works wonderfully.

 

> >

 

> > -VJ

 

> >

 

> > ============ ===== ====

 

> >

 

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> > Gautam.Rampal <gautam.rampal@ gmail.com <gautam.rampal%

 

> 40gmail.com> >

 

> > <% 40.

 

> com>

 

>

 

> > Tuesday, June 2, 2009 12:35:34 PM

 

> > Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > i have a question, usually other aircrafts too taken off at the same time

 

> > for thier respective destination, but why specially this one didnt reach.

 

> >

 

> > Regards,

 

> > Gautam

 

> >

 

> > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:08 PM, vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16@ >

 

> > wrote:

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > To All :

 

> > >

 

> > > The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

 

> > > Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

 

> > >

 

> > > 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

 

> > >

 

> > > 2) Rahu in 2nd,

 

> > >

 

> > > 3) Ketu in 8th,

 

> > >

 

> > > 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being

 

> > > under highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

 

> > >

 

> > > 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation

 

> > > with malefic Sun.

 

> > >

 

> > > 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had

 

> > > mutual aspect relation with Sun too.

 

> > >

 

> > > 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

 

> > > lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

 

> > >

 

> > > 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th

 

> house

 

> > > in its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic

 

> > > Venus which was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

 

> > >

 

> > > Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose

 

> > > names begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

 

> > >

 

> > > l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

 

> > >

 

> > > retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer

 

> Moon)

 

> > >

 

> > > h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

 

> > >

 

> > > l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

 

> > >

 

> > > v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

 

> > >

 

> > > a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

 

> > >

 

> > > Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu

 

> > > pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is

 

> > > hardly any chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong

 

> > > longevity combinations in his/her personal horoscope.

 

> > >

 

> > > Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

 

> > >

 

> > > 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal

 

> > > FPA, mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter

 

> > > enemy's house, in watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining

 

> areas

 

> > > of North Atlantic. Rio de Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in

 

> > > airy naadi.

 

> > >

 

> > > 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time,

 

> 3rd

 

> > > house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in

 

> > > watery naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in

 

> > > bitter enemical sign with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th

 

> > > house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona.

 

> > > Saturn was lord of 8th and related to maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th,

 

> > > which made Saturn the main killer. The duration of 4th Nakshatra is

 

> from

 

> > > 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn and better

 

> > > maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

 

> > > given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5

 

> > > to 27 for the whole year).

 

> > >

 

> > > 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which

 

> contained

 

> > > crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis,

 

> > > and 6th lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close

 

> > > relation with Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of

 

> > > being lord of inauspicious 12th and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in

 

> > > 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd maarakesh Mars was in its

 

> > > mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with enmical Mercury in

 

> > > chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect on

 

> northern

 

> > > part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being lord

 

> > > of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic,

 

> esp

 

> > > around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well

 

> > > as reports.

 

> > >

 

> > > I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

 

> > > worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

 

> > > from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

 

> > > shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in

 

> > > the same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha

 

> > > Pravesha chart in those regions.

 

> > >

 

> > > Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news.

 

> > > Charts made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a

 

> > > strong turbulence struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted

 

> > > Venus in airy naadi entered 2nd house of Killer), just after which

 

> crash

 

> > > took place.

 

> > >

 

> > > Here are some news items scanned through internet

 

> > > <http://duard. com.br/blog/ af-447-voo- airfrance- lista-de-

 

> > passageiros- todo\

 

> > > s-mortos.html/ _45852693_ plane_crash2_ 466<http://duard. com.br/blog/

af-447-voo- airfrance- lista-de- passageiros- todos-mortos. html/_45852693_

 

> > plane_crash2_ 466>>

 

> >

 

> > > :

 

> > >

 

> > > 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

 

> > > according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

 

> > > Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

 

> > > Brazil.

 

> > >

 

> > > 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

 

> > >

 

> > > 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

 

> > >

 

> > > 1140 GMT: Brazil's air force says Flight AF 447 was " well

 

> > > advanced " over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

 

> > >

 

> > > 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical

 

> > > fault from the aircraft.

 

> > >

 

> > > 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused

 

> > > by the plane suffering a lightning strike..

 

> > >

 

> > > 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

 

> > > survivors from the flight is " very slim " .

 

> > >

 

> > > Here are some names who were onboard ;

 

> > >

 

> > > 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of

 

> > > ThyssenKrupp- Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

 

> > >

 

> > > 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

 

> > >

 

> > > 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

 

> > >

 

> > > 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

 

> > >

 

> > > 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank

 

> > > and Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto

 

> > > Alegre is a City in the South of Brazil)

 

> > >

 

> > > 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

 

> > >

 

> > > 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager

 

> > > of OI Phone Company

 

> > >

 

> > > 8.) Deise Possamai

 

> > >

 

> > > 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

 

> > >

 

> > > 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

 

> > >

 

> > > 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don

 

> Pedro

 

> > > II Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

 

> > >

 

> > > 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus

 

> > > Association - Italy

 

> > >

 

> > > 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige -

 

> > > Italy

 

> > >

 

> > > 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

 

> > >

 

> > > 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

 

> > >

 

> > > -Vinay Jha

 

> > > ============ ========= == ======

 

> > >

 

> > >

[Guest guest]

Kundalee Software

 

New version will be shortly uploaded.

 

 

________________________________

Vsk Murti <hellovsk

 

Tuesday, June 2, 2009 3:44:24 PM

Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

 

 

 

 

 

Hello everyone,

 

Does any body have this Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software.

 

Thanks

 

kumar

 

--- On Tue, 2/6/09, Gautam.Rampal <gautam.rampal@ gmail.com> wrote:

 

Gautam.Rampal <gautam.rampal@ gmail.com>

Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

 

Tuesday, 2 June, 2009, 9:29 AM

 

I am sorry if i have raised wrong question.

 

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

 

>

 

>

 

> There are strict flight regulation rules in force everywhere. No two

 

> commercial flights can be allowed to take off for same destination from

 

> same place simultaneously.

 

>

 

> My analysis showed affliction of Brazil and areas around france for that

 

> time, and main chart was based for a particular moment at Rio de Janeiro.

 

>

 

> A little known method has been buried under a useless discussion on flight

 

> regulation rules. Now, no one will read the original article. I am sorry to

 

> have wasted my time.

 

>

 

> -vj

 

>

 

>

 

> ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> Gautam.Rampal <gautam.rampal@ gmail.com <gautam.rampal% 40gmail.com> >

 

> <% 40. com>

 

> Tuesday, June 2, 2009 2:07:29 PM

 

> Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

 

>

 

> VJ,

 

>

 

> you made a good analysis, usually in international airports multiple

 

> flights

 

> take off from different runways at the same time.

 

>

 

> Gautam

 

>

 

> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

 

>

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > This question is like another question that many persons are born at

 

> about

 

> > the same time but why their destinies are different.

 

> >

 

> > The chart of take off was made from Rio de Janeiro. How many aircrafts

 

> took

 

> > off from Rio de Janeirp at the same time ? Slight change in time will

 

> make

 

> > one or two planets auspicious. This aircraft took off at the most

 

> > inauspicious time when all planets were bad.

 

> >

 

> > Mundane charts show something bad related to areas around France and

 

> Brazil

 

> > on that very day. Hence, why other aircrafts not related to both Brazil

 

> and

 

> > France simultaneously should be affected ?

 

> >

 

> > I presented a little known technique which works wonderfully.

 

> >

 

> > -VJ

 

> >

 

> > ============ ===== ====

 

> >

 

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> > Gautam.Rampal <gautam.rampal@ gmail.com <gautam.rampal%

 

> 40gmail.com> >

 

> > <% 40.

 

> com>

 

>

 

> > Tuesday, June 2, 2009 12:35:34 PM

 

> > Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > i have a question, usually other aircrafts too taken off at the same time

 

> > for thier respective destination, but why specially this one didnt reach.

 

> >

 

> > Regards,

 

> > Gautam

 

> >

 

> > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:08 PM, vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16@ >

 

> > wrote:

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > To All :

 

> > >

 

> > > The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

 

> > > Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

 

> > >

 

> > > 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

 

> > >

 

> > > 2) Rahu in 2nd,

 

> > >

 

> > > 3) Ketu in 8th,

 

> > >

 

> > > 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being

 

> > > under highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

 

> > >

 

> > > 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation

 

> > > with malefic Sun.

 

> > >

 

> > > 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had

 

> > > mutual aspect relation with Sun too.

 

> > >

 

> > > 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

 

> > > lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

 

> > >

 

> > > 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th

 

> house

 

> > > in its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic

 

> > > Venus which was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

 

> > >

 

> > > Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose

 

> > > names begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

 

> > >

 

> > > l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

 

> > >

 

> > > retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer

 

> Moon)

 

> > >

 

> > > h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

 

> > >

 

> > > l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

 

> > >

 

> > > v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

 

> > >

 

> > > a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

 

> > >

 

> > > Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu

 

> > > pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is

 

> > > hardly any chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong

 

> > > longevity combinations in his/her personal horoscope.

 

> > >

 

> > > Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

 

> > >

 

> > > 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal

 

> > > FPA, mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter

 

> > > enemy's house, in watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining

 

> areas

 

> > > of North Atlantic. Rio de Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in

 

> > > airy naadi.

 

> > >

 

> > > 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time,

 

> 3rd

 

> > > house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in

 

> > > watery naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in

 

> > > bitter enemical sign with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th

 

> > > house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona.

 

> > > Saturn was lord of 8th and related to maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th,

 

> > > which made Saturn the main killer. The duration of 4th Nakshatra is

 

> from

 

> > > 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn and better

 

> > > maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

 

> > > given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5

 

> > > to 27 for the whole year).

 

> > >

 

> > > 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which

 

> contained

 

> > > crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis,

 

> > > and 6th lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close

 

> > > relation with Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of

 

> > > being lord of inauspicious 12th and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in

 

> > > 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd maarakesh Mars was in its

 

> > > mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with enmical Mercury in

 

> > > chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect on

 

> northern

 

> > > part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being lord

 

> > > of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic,

 

> esp

 

> > > around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well

 

> > > as reports.

 

> > >

 

> > > I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

 

> > > worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

 

> > > from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

 

> > > shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in

 

> > > the same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha

 

> > > Pravesha chart in those regions.

 

> > >

 

> > > Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news.

 

> > > Charts made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a

 

> > > strong turbulence struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted

 

> > > Venus in airy naadi entered 2nd house of Killer), just after which

 

> crash

 

> > > took place.

 

> > >

 

> > > Here are some news items scanned through internet

 

> > > <http://duard. com.br/blog/ af-447-voo- airfrance- lista-de-

 

> > passageiros- todo\

 

> > > s-mortos.html/ _45852693_ plane_crash2_ 466<http://duard. com.br/blog/

af-447-voo- airfrance- lista-de- passageiros- todos-mortos. html/_45852693_

 

> > plane_crash2_ 466>>

 

> >

 

> > > :

 

> > >

 

> > > 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

 

> > > according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

 

> > > Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

 

> > > Brazil.

 

> > >

 

> > > 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

 

> > >

 

> > > 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

 

> > >

 

> > > 1140 GMT: Brazil's air force says Flight AF 447 was " well

 

> > > advanced " over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

 

> > >

 

> > > 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical

 

> > > fault from the aircraft.

 

> > >

 

> > > 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused

 

> > > by the plane suffering a lightning strike..

 

> > >

 

> > > 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

 

> > > survivors from the flight is " very slim " .

 

> > >

 

> > > Here are some names who were onboard ;

 

> > >

 

> > > 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of

 

> > > ThyssenKrupp- Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

 

> > >

 

> > > 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

 

> > >

 

> > > 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

 

> > >

 

> > > 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

 

> > >

 

> > > 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank

 

> > > and Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto

 

> > > Alegre is a City in the South of Brazil)

 

> > >

 

> > > 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

 

> > >

 

> > > 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager

 

> > > of OI Phone Company

 

> > >

 

> > > 8.) Deise Possamai

 

> > >

 

> > > 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

 

> > >

 

> > > 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

 

> > >

 

> > > 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don

 

> Pedro

 

> > > II Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

 

> > >

 

> > > 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus

 

> > > Association - Italy

 

> > >

 

> > > 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige -

 

> > > Italy

 

> > >

 

> > > 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

 

> > >

 

> > > 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

 

> > >

 

> > > -Vinay Jha

 

> > > ============ ========= == ======

 

> > >

 

> > >

[Guest guest]

Then again, can one become a doctor and eventually save lives without having

learned anatomy on cadavers and without learning pathology through doing

autopsies (post mortems) on dead patients?

 

That is, if astrology is a science as most claim...?

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, chandrasekaran iyer <shekar1975

wrote:

>

> sorry to comment on this. But the actual real good astrologer is one

> who predicts the event well in advance and try to caution the victim.

> Doing post mortem of the event is not that gr8 astrology that anybody

> can do.

>

> --shekar.B

>

> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:09 PM, vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

> >

> >

> > To All :

> >

> > The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

> > Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

> >

> > 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

> >

> > 2) Rahu in 2nd,

> >

> > 3) Ketu in 8th,

> >

> > 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being

> > under highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

> >

> > 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation

> > with malefic Sun.

> >

> > 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had

> > mutual aspect relation with Sun too.

> >

> > 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

> > lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

> >

> > 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house

> > in its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic

> > Venus which was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

> >

> > Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose

> > names begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

> >

> > l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

> >

> > retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

> >

> > h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

> >

> > l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

> >

> > v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

> >

> > a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

> >

> > Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu

> > pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is

> > hardly any chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong

> > longevity combinations in his/her personal horoscope.

> >

> > Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

> >

> > 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal

> > FPA, mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter

> > enemy's house, in watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas

> > of North Atlantic. Rio de Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in

> > airy naadi.

> >

> > 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd

> > house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in

> > watery naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in

> > bitter enemical sign with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th

> > house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona.

> > Saturn was lord of 8th and related to maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th,

> > which made Saturn the main killer. The duration of 4th Nakshatra is from

> > 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn and better

> > maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

> > given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5

> > to 27 for the whole year).

> >

> > 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained

> > crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis,

> > and 6th lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close

> > relation with Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of

> > being lord of inauspicious 12th and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in

> > 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd maarakesh Mars was in its

> > mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with enmical Mercury in

> > chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect on northern

> > part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being lord

> > of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

> > around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well

> > as reports.

> >

> > I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

> > worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

> > from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

> > shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in

> > the same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha

> > Pravesha chart in those regions.

> >

> > Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news.

> > Charts made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a

> > strong turbulence struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted

> > Venus in airy naadi entered 2nd house of Killer), just after which crash

> > took place.

> >

> > Here are some news items scanned through internet

> > <http://duard.com.br/blog/af-447-voo-airfrance-lista-de-passageiros-todo\

> > s-mortos.html/_45852693_plane_crash2_466> :

> >

> > 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

> > according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

> > Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

> > Brazil.

> >

> > 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

> >

> > 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

> >

> > 1140 GMT: Brazil's air force says Flight AF 447 was " well

> > advanced " over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

> >

> > 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical

> > fault from the aircraft.

> >

> > 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused

> > by the plane suffering a lightning strike.

> >

> > 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

> > survivors from the flight is " very slim " .

> >

> > Here are some names who were onboard ;

> >

> > 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of

> > ThyssenKrupp-Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

> >

> > 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

> >

> > 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

> >

> > 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

> >

> > 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank

> > and Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto

> > Alegre is a City in the South of Brazil)

> >

> > 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

> >

> > 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager

> > of OI Phone Company

> >

> > 8.) Deise Possamai

> >

> > 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

> >

> > 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

> >

> > 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro

> > II Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

> >

> > 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus

> > Association - Italy

> >

> > 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige -

> > Italy

> >

> > 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

> >

> > 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

> >

> > -Vinay Jha

> > ======================= ======

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Agreed Sir! Once the event is known, astrologers will be able to show it using

their own methods, be it Vedic, KP, Western, Uranian or any other homegrown

techniques. When it comes to prediction most of us falter.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

 

 

________________________________

chandrasekaran iyer <shekar1975

 

Tuesday, 2 June, 2009 2:52:00 PM

Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

 

 

 

 

 

sorry to comment on this. But the actual real good astrologer is one

who predicts the event well in advance and try to caution the victim.

Doing post mortem of the event is not that gr8 astrology that anybody

can do.

 

--shekar.B

 

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:09 PM, vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

>

>

> To All :

>

> The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

> Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

>

> 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

>

> 2) Rahu in 2nd,

>

> 3) Ketu in 8th,

>

> 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being

> under highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

>

> 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation

> with malefic Sun.

>

> 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had

> mutual aspect relation with Sun too.

>

> 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

> lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

>

> 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house

> in its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic

> Venus which was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

>

> Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose

> names begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

>

> l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

>

> retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

>

> h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

>

> l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

>

> v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

>

> a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

>

> Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu

> pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is

> hardly any chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong

> longevity combinations in his/her personal horoscope.

>

> Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

>

> 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal

> FPA, mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter

> enemy's house, in watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas

> of North Atlantic. Rio de Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in

> airy naadi.

>

> 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd

> house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in

> watery naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in

> bitter enemical sign with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th

> house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona.

> Saturn was lord of 8th and related to maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th,

> which made Saturn the main killer. The duration of 4th Nakshatra is from

> 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn and better

> maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

> given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5

> to 27 for the whole year).

>

> 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained

> crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis,

> and 6th lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close

> relation with Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of

> being lord of inauspicious 12th and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in

> 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd maarakesh Mars was in its

> mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with enmical Mercury in

> chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect on northern

> part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being lord

> of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

> around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well

> as reports.

>

> I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

> worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

> from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

> shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in

> the same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha

> Pravesha chart in those regions.

>

> Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news.

> Charts made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a

> strong turbulence struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted

> Venus in airy naadi entered 2nd house of Killer), just after which crash

> took place.

>

> Here are some news items scanned through internet

> <http://duard. com.br/blog/ af-447-voo- airfrance- lista-de- passageiros-

todo\

> s-mortos.html/ _45852693_ plane_crash2_ 466> :

>

> 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

> according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

> Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

> Brazil.

>

> 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

>

> 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

>

> 1140 GMT: Brazil's air force says Flight AF 447 was " well

> advanced " over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

>

> 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical

> fault from the aircraft.

>

> 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused

> by the plane suffering a lightning strike.

>

> 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

> survivors from the flight is " very slim " .

>

> Here are some names who were onboard ;

>

> 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of

> ThyssenKrupp- Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

>

> 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

>

> 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

>

> 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

>

> 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank

> and Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto

> Alegre is a City in the South of Brazil)

>

> 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

>

> 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager

> of OI Phone Company

>

> 8.) Deise Possamai

>

> 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

>

> 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

>

> 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro

> II Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

>

> 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus

> Association - Italy

>

> 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige -

> Italy

>

> 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

>

> 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

>

> -Vinay Jha

> ============ ========= == ======

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Krishna,

 

I started smiling when read this and laughed heartfully afterwards. LOL

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

 

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <

krishna_1998 wrote:

 

>

>

> Agreed Sir! Once the event is known, astrologers will be able to show it

> using their own methods, be it Vedic, KP, Western, Uranian or any other

> homegrown techniques. When it comes to prediction most of us falter.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> ________________________________

> chandrasekaran iyer <shekar1975 <shekar1975%40gmail.com>>

> <%40>

> Tuesday, 2 June, 2009 2:52:00 PM

> Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

>

>

> sorry to comment on this. But the actual real good astrologer is one

> who predicts the event well in advance and try to caution the victim.

> Doing post mortem of the event is not that gr8 astrology that anybody

> can do.

>

> --shekar.B

>

> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:09 PM, vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16@ >

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > To All :

> >

> > The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

> > Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

> >

> > 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

> >

> > 2) Rahu in 2nd,

> >

> > 3) Ketu in 8th,

> >

> > 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being

> > under highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

> >

> > 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation

> > with malefic Sun.

> >

> > 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had

> > mutual aspect relation with Sun too.

> >

> > 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

> > lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

> >

> > 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house

> > in its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic

> > Venus which was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

> >

> > Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose

> > names begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

> >

> > l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

> >

> > retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

> >

> > h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

> >

> > l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

> >

> > v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

> >

> > a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

> >

> > Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu

> > pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is

> > hardly any chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong

> > longevity combinations in his/her personal horoscope.

> >

> > Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

> >

> > 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal

> > FPA, mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter

> > enemy's house, in watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas

> > of North Atlantic. Rio de Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in

> > airy naadi.

> >

> > 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd

> > house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in

> > watery naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in

> > bitter enemical sign with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th

> > house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona.

> > Saturn was lord of 8th and related to maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th,

> > which made Saturn the main killer. The duration of 4th Nakshatra is from

> > 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn and better

> > maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

> > given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5

> > to 27 for the whole year).

> >

> > 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained

> > crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis,

> > and 6th lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close

> > relation with Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of

> > being lord of inauspicious 12th and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in

> > 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd maarakesh Mars was in its

> > mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with enmical Mercury in

> > chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect on northern

> > part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being lord

> > of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

> > around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well

> > as reports.

> >

> > I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

> > worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

> > from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

> > shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in

> > the same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha

> > Pravesha chart in those regions.

> >

> > Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news.

> > Charts made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a

> > strong turbulence struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted

> > Venus in airy naadi entered 2nd house of Killer), just after which crash

> > took place.

> >

> > Here are some news items scanned through internet

> > <http://duard. com.br/blog/ af-447-voo- airfrance- lista-de-

> passageiros- todo\

> > s-mortos.html/ _45852693_ plane_crash2_ 466> :

> >

> > 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

> > according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

> > Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

> > Brazil.

> >

> > 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

> >

> > 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

> >

> > 1140 GMT: Brazil's air force says Flight AF 447 was " well

> > advanced " over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

> >

> > 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical

> > fault from the aircraft.

> >

> > 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused

> > by the plane suffering a lightning strike.

> >

> > 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

> > survivors from the flight is " very slim " .

> >

> > Here are some names who were onboard ;

> >

> > 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of

> > ThyssenKrupp- Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

> >

> > 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

> >

> > 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

> >

> > 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

> >

> > 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank

> > and Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto

> > Alegre is a City in the South of Brazil)

> >

> > 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

> >

> > 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager

> > of OI Phone Company

> >

> > 8.) Deise Possamai

> >

> > 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

> >

> > 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

> >

> > 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro

> > II Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

> >

> > 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus

> > Association - Italy

> >

> > 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige -

> > Italy

> >

> > 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

> >

> > 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

> >

> > -Vinay Jha

> > ============ ========= == ======

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr. Vinay ji,

 

I have gone through the analysis that you made on the recent Air France

flight crash.

 

My view point is that take any event - an act of terrorism or bomb

explosion or car or flight...etc., if you were to cast a chart for the

epoch of the event, invariably you will find - disaster combinations

i.e. Rahu/Ketu, Saturn, Mars, 6HL, 8HL & 12HL as involved in some

complex -position or aspect or conjunction including the dasha for that

event.

 

So, one cannot say that the time was wrong, so it happened. You may

test the above observation of mine and revert should conclusions prove

otherwise.

 

Conclusion : Though you have done great analysis, spent time..etc., the

conclusion drawn that the timing was bad, is not convincing i.e. You

cannot choose Muhurta for your travel- train/flight timings are fixed,

corollary - Muhurta chooses you !!

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

[Guest guest]

The method I used here is so difficult that that only a few supermen

will be able to predict anything using it on their own, but a team work

may yield good results. Most of the scientists work with team spirit,

while astrologers laugh at each other, even when 228 innocent persons get

killed.

 

A member asked what was the chance of any survival in this crash, which prompted

me to carry out the analysis. I said : " There is hardly any chance of a single

survival " .

 

<<< " Once the event is known, astrologers will be able to show it using their

own methods, be it Vedic, KP, Western, Uranian or any other homegrown

techniques. " >>>

 

Why not show one's own technique in explaining the event? Failure to predict is

a result of failure to learn from and respect

each other, failure to compare various methods impartially, and failure

to admit one's mistakes and rectify them. To err is human, but to stick

to methods which fail to explain events is not good. Post-event analyses are

indespensable for learning , comparing and rectifying our methods, as

Rohiniranjan ji rightly feels.

 

-VJ

================ =======

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Ravindramani CS <ravindramani

 

Wednesday, June 3, 2009 9:36:41 AM

Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Krishna,

 

I started smiling when read this and laughed heartfully afterwards. LOL

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

 

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <

krishna_1998@ > wrote:

 

>

>

> Agreed Sir! Once the event is known, astrologers will be able to show it

> using their own methods, be it Vedic, KP, Western, Uranian or any other

> homegrown techniques. When it comes to prediction most of us falter.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> chandrasekaran iyer <shekar1975 (AT) gmail (DOT) com <shekar1975% 40gmail.com> >

> <% 40. com>

> Tuesday, 2 June, 2009 2:52:00 PM

> Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

>

>

> sorry to comment on this. But the actual real good astrologer is one

> who predicts the event well in advance and try to caution the victim.

> Doing post mortem of the event is not that gr8 astrology that anybody

> can do.

>

> --shekar.B

>

> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:09 PM, vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16@ >

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > To All :

> >

> > The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

> > Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

> >

> > 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

> >

> > 2) Rahu in 2nd,

> >

> > 3) Ketu in 8th,

> >

> > 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being

> > under highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

> >

> > 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation

> > with malefic Sun.

> >

> > 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had

> > mutual aspect relation with Sun too.

> >

> > 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

> > lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

> >

> > 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house

> > in its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic

> > Venus which was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

> >

> > Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose

> > names begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

> >

> > l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

> >

> > retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

> >

> > h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

> >

> > l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

> >

> > v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

> >

> > a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

> >

> > Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu

> > pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is

> > hardly any chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong

> > longevity combinations in his/her personal horoscope.

> >

> > Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

> >

> > 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal

> > FPA, mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter

> > enemy's house, in watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas

> > of North Atlantic. Rio de Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in

> > airy naadi.

> >

> > 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd

> > house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in

> > watery naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in

> > bitter enemical sign with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th

> > house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona.

> > Saturn was lord of 8th and related to maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th,

> > which made Saturn the main killer. The duration of 4th Nakshatra is from

> > 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn and better

> > maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

> > given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5

> > to 27 for the whole year).

> >

> > 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained

> > crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis,

> > and 6th lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close

> > relation with Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of

> > being lord of inauspicious 12th and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in

> > 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd maarakesh Mars was in its

> > mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with enmical Mercury in

> > chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect on northern

> > part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being lord

> > of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

> > around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well

> > as reports.

> >

> > I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

> > worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

> > from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

> > shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in

> > the same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha

> > Pravesha chart in those regions.

> >

> > Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news.

> > Charts made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a

> > strong turbulence struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted

> > Venus in airy naadi entered 2nd house of Killer), just after which crash

> > took place.

> >

> > Here are some news items scanned through internet

> > <http://duard. com.br/blog/ af-447-voo- airfrance- lista-de-

> passageiros- todo\

> > s-mortos.html/ _45852693_ plane_crash2_ 466> :

> >

> > 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

> > according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

> > Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

> > Brazil.

> >

> > 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

> >

> > 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

> >

> > 1140 GMT: Brazil's air force says Flight AF 447 was " well

> > advanced " over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

> >

> > 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical

> > fault from the aircraft.

> >

> > 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused

> > by the plane suffering a lightning strike.

> >

> > 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

> > survivors from the flight is " very slim " .

> >

> > Here are some names who were onboard ;

> >

> > 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of

> > ThyssenKrupp- Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

> >

> > 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

> >

> > 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

> >

> > 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

> >

> > 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank

> > and Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto

> > Alegre is a City in the South of Brazil)

> >

> > 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

> >

> > 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager

> > of OI Phone Company

> >

> > 8.) Deise Possamai

> >

> > 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

> >

> > 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

> >

> > 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro

> > II Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

> >

> > 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus

> > Association - Italy

> >

> > 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige -

> > Italy

> >

> > 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

> >

> > 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

> >

> > -Vinay Jha

> > ============ ========= == ======

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

To All,

 

The details of my method cannot be explained here due to space and picture files

; Click_Here to find the details of my method taken from ancient Yaamala Tantras

which I used to analyze aircraft crash.

 

-VJ

 

================== ====

 

 

________________________________

vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16

 

Tuesday, June 2, 2009 12:08:23 PM

Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

 

 

 

 

 

To All :

 

The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

 

1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

 

2) Rahu in 2nd,

 

3) Ketu in 8th,

 

4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being

under highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

 

5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation

with malefic Sun.

 

6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had

mutual aspect relation with Sun too.

 

7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

 

8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house

in its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic

Venus which was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

 

Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose

names begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

 

l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

 

retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

 

h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

 

l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

 

v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

 

a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

 

Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu

pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is

hardly any chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong

longevity combinations in his/her personal horoscope.

 

Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

 

1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal

FPA, mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter

enemy's house, in watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas

of North Atlantic. Rio de Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in

airy naadi.

 

2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd

house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in

watery naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in

bitter enemical sign with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th

house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona.

Saturn was lord of 8th and related to maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th,

which made Saturn the main killer. The duration of 4th Nakshatra is from

25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn and better

maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5

to 27 for the whole year).

 

3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained

crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis,

and 6th lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close

relation with Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of

being lord of inauspicious 12th and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in

8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd maarakesh Mars was in its

mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with enmical Mercury in

chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect on northern

part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being lord

of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well

as reports.

 

I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in

the same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha

Pravesha chart in those regions.

 

Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news.

Charts made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a

strong turbulence struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted

Venus in airy naadi entered 2nd house of Killer), just after which crash

took place.

 

Here are some news items scanned through internet

<http://duard. com.br/blog/ af-447-voo- airfrance- lista-de- passageiros- todo\

s-mortos.html/ _45852693_ plane_crash2_ 466> :

 

0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

Brazil.

 

0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

 

0214 GMT : last automated message received.

 

1140 GMT: Brazil's air force says Flight AF 447 was " well

advanced " over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

 

1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical

fault from the aircraft.

 

1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused

by the plane suffering a lightning strike.

 

1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

survivors from the flight is " very slim " .

 

Here are some names who were onboard ;

 

1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of

ThyssenKrupp- Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

 

2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

 

3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

 

4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

 

5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank

and Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto

Alegre is a City in the South of Brazil)

 

6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

 

7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager

of OI Phone Company

 

8.) Deise Possamai

 

9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

 

10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

 

11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro

II Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

 

12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus

Association - Italy

 

13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige -

Italy

 

14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

 

15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

 

-Vinay Jha

============ ========= == ======

 

 

[Guest guest]

To All,

 

Details of my method can be seen Here, which is based upon ancient Yaamala

Tantras, BPHS, etc.

 

-VJ

 

=================== ===

 

 

________________________________

vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16

 

Tuesday, June 2, 2009 12:09:33 PM

Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

 

 

 

 

 

To All :

 

The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

 

1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

 

2) Rahu in 2nd,

 

3) Ketu in 8th,

 

4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being

under highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

 

5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation

with malefic Sun.

 

6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had

mutual aspect relation with Sun too.

 

7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

 

8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house

in its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic

Venus which was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

 

Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose

names begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

 

l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

 

retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

 

h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

 

l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

 

v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

 

a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

 

Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu

pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is

hardly any chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong

longevity combinations in his/her personal horoscope.

 

Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

 

1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal

FPA, mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter

enemy's house, in watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas

of North Atlantic. Rio de Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in

airy naadi.

 

2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd

house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in

watery naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in

bitter enemical sign with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th

house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona.

Saturn was lord of 8th and related to maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th,

which made Saturn the main killer. The duration of 4th Nakshatra is from

25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn and better

maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5

to 27 for the whole year).

 

3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained

crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis,

and 6th lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close

relation with Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of

being lord of inauspicious 12th and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in

8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd maarakesh Mars was in its

mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with enmical Mercury in

chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect on northern

part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being lord

of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well

as reports.

 

I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in

the same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha

Pravesha chart in those regions.

 

Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news.

Charts made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a

strong turbulence struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted

Venus in airy naadi entered 2nd house of Killer), just after which crash

took place.

 

Here are some news items scanned through internet

<http://duard. com.br/blog/ af-447-voo- airfrance- lista-de- passageiros- todo\

s-mortos.html/ _45852693_ plane_crash2_ 466> :

 

0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

Brazil.

 

0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

 

0214 GMT : last automated message received.

 

1140 GMT: Brazil's air force says Flight AF 447 was " well

advanced " over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

 

1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical

fault from the aircraft.

 

1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused

by the plane suffering a lightning strike.

 

1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

survivors from the flight is " very slim " .

 

Here are some names who were onboard ;

 

1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of

ThyssenKrupp- Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

 

2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

 

3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

 

4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

 

5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank

and Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto

Alegre is a City in the South of Brazil)

 

6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

 

7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager

of OI Phone Company

 

8.) Deise Possamai

 

9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

 

10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

 

11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro

II Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

 

12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus

Association - Italy

 

13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige -

Italy

 

14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

 

15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

 

-Vinay Jha

============ ========= == ======

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Ravindramani,

 

Nice to see you here :-)

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Ravindramani CS <ravindramani

 

Wednesday, 3 June, 2009 9:36:41 AM

Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Krishna,

 

I started smiling when read this and laughed heartfully afterwards. LOL

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

 

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <

krishna_1998@ > wrote:

 

>

>

> Agreed Sir! Once the event is known, astrologers will be able to show it

> using their own methods, be it Vedic, KP, Western, Uranian or any other

> homegrown techniques. When it comes to prediction most of us falter.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> chandrasekaran iyer <shekar1975 (AT) gmail (DOT) com <shekar1975% 40gmail.com> >

> <% 40. com>

> Tuesday, 2 June, 2009 2:52:00 PM

> Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

>

>

> sorry to comment on this. But the actual real good astrologer is one

> who predicts the event well in advance and try to caution the victim.

> Doing post mortem of the event is not that gr8 astrology that anybody

> can do.

>

> --shekar.B

>

> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:09 PM, vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16@ >

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > To All :

> >

> > The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

> > Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

> >

> > 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

> >

> > 2) Rahu in 2nd,

> >

> > 3) Ketu in 8th,

> >

> > 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being

> > under highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

> >

> > 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation

> > with malefic Sun.

> >

> > 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had

> > mutual aspect relation with Sun too.

> >

> > 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

> > lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

> >

> > 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house

> > in its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic

> > Venus which was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

> >

> > Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose

> > names begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

> >

> > l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

> >

> > retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

> >

> > h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

> >

> > l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

> >

> > v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

> >

> > a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

> >

> > Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu

> > pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is

> > hardly any chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong

> > longevity combinations in his/her personal horoscope.

> >

> > Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

> >

> > 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal

> > FPA, mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter

> > enemy's house, in watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas

> > of North Atlantic. Rio de Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in

> > airy naadi.

> >

> > 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd

> > house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in

> > watery naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in

> > bitter enemical sign with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th

> > house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona.

> > Saturn was lord of 8th and related to maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th,

> > which made Saturn the main killer. The duration of 4th Nakshatra is from

> > 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn and better

> > maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

> > given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5

> > to 27 for the whole year).

> >

> > 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained

> > crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis,

> > and 6th lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close

> > relation with Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of

> > being lord of inauspicious 12th and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in

> > 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd maarakesh Mars was in its

> > mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with enmical Mercury in

> > chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect on northern

> > part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being lord

> > of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

> > around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well

> > as reports.

> >

> > I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

> > worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

> > from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

> > shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in

> > the same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha

> > Pravesha chart in those regions.

> >

> > Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news.

> > Charts made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a

> > strong turbulence struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted

> > Venus in airy naadi entered 2nd house of Killer), just after which crash

> > took place.

> >

> > Here are some news items scanned through internet

> > <http://duard. com.br/blog/ af-447-voo- airfrance- lista-de-

> passageiros- todo\

> > s-mortos.html/ _45852693_ plane_crash2_ 466> :

> >

> > 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

> > according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

> > Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

> > Brazil.

> >

> > 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

> >

> > 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

> >

> > 1140 GMT: Brazil's air force says Flight AF 447 was " well

> > advanced " over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

> >

> > 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical

> > fault from the aircraft.

> >

> > 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused

> > by the plane suffering a lightning strike.

> >

> > 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

> > survivors from the flight is " very slim " .

> >

> > Here are some names who were onboard ;

> >

> > 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of

> > ThyssenKrupp- Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

> >

> > 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

> >

> > 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

> >

> > 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

> >

> > 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank

> > and Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto

> > Alegre is a City in the South of Brazil)

> >

> > 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

> >

> > 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager

> > of OI Phone Company

> >

> > 8.) Deise Possamai

> >

> > 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

> >

> > 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

> >

> > 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro

> > II Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

> >

> > 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus

> > Association - Italy

> >

> > 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige -

> > Italy

> >

> > 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

> >

> > 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

> >

> > -Vinay Jha

> > ============ ========= == ======

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

228 were killed !

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998

 

Wednesday, June 3, 2009 4:53:36 PM

Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ravindramani,

 

Nice to see you here :-)

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Ravindramani CS <ravindramani@ gmail.com>

 

Wednesday, 3 June, 2009 9:36:41 AM

Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

 

Dear Krishna,

 

I started smiling when read this and laughed heartfully afterwards. LOL

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

 

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <

krishna_1998@ > wrote:

 

>

>

> Agreed Sir! Once the event is known, astrologers will be able to show it

> using their own methods, be it Vedic, KP, Western, Uranian or any other

> homegrown techniques. When it comes to prediction most of us falter.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> chandrasekaran iyer <shekar1975@ gmail. com <shekar1975% 40gmail.com> >

> <% 40. com>

> Tuesday, 2 June, 2009 2:52:00 PM

> Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

>

>

> sorry to comment on this. But the actual real good astrologer is one

> who predicts the event well in advance and try to caution the victim.

> Doing post mortem of the event is not that gr8 astrology that anybody

> can do.

>

> --shekar.B

>

> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:09 PM, vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16@ >

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > To All :

> >

> > The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

> > Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

> >

> > 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

> >

> > 2) Rahu in 2nd,

> >

> > 3) Ketu in 8th,

> >

> > 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being

> > under highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

> >

> > 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation

> > with malefic Sun.

> >

> > 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had

> > mutual aspect relation with Sun too.

> >

> > 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

> > lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

> >

> > 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house

> > in its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic

> > Venus which was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

> >

> > Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose

> > names begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

> >

> > l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

> >

> > retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

> >

> > h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

> >

> > l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

> >

> > v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

> >

> > a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

> >

> > Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu

> > pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is

> > hardly any chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong

> > longevity combinations in his/her personal horoscope.

> >

> > Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

> >

> > 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal

> > FPA, mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter

> > enemy's house, in watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas

> > of North Atlantic. Rio de Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in

> > airy naadi.

> >

> > 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd

> > house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in

> > watery naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in

> > bitter enemical sign with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th

> > house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona.

> > Saturn was lord of 8th and related to maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th,

> > which made Saturn the main killer. The duration of 4th Nakshatra is from

> > 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn and better

> > maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

> > given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5

> > to 27 for the whole year).

> >

> > 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained

> > crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis,

> > and 6th lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close

> > relation with Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of

> > being lord of inauspicious 12th and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in

> > 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd maarakesh Mars was in its

> > mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with enmical Mercury in

> > chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect on northern

> > part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being lord

> > of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

> > around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well

> > as reports.

> >

> > I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

> > worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

> > from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

> > shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in

> > the same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha

> > Pravesha chart in those regions.

> >

> > Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news.

> > Charts made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a

> > strong turbulence struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted

> > Venus in airy naadi entered 2nd house of Killer), just after which crash

> > took place.

> >

> > Here are some news items scanned through internet

> > <http://duard. com.br/blog/ af-447-voo- airfrance- lista-de-

> passageiros- todo\

> > s-mortos.html/ _45852693_ plane_crash2_ 466> :

> >

> > 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

> > according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

> > Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

> > Brazil.

> >

> > 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

> >

> > 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

> >

> > 1140 GMT: Brazil's air force says Flight AF 447 was " well

> > advanced " over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

> >

> > 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical

> > fault from the aircraft.

> >

> > 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused

> > by the plane suffering a lightning strike.

> >

> > 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

> > survivors from the flight is " very slim " .

> >

> > Here are some names who were onboard ;

> >

> > 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of

> > ThyssenKrupp- Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

> >

> > 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

> >

> > 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

> >

> > 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

> >

> > 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank

> > and Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto

> > Alegre is a City in the South of Brazil)

> >

> > 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

> >

> > 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager

> > of OI Phone Company

> >

> > 8.) Deise Possamai

> >

> > 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

> >

> > 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

> >

> > 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro

> > II Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

> >

> > 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus

> > Association - Italy

> >

> > 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige -

> > Italy

> >

> > 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

> >

> > 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

> >

> > -Vinay Jha

> > ============ ========= == ======

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

There is a huge difference between a Doctor and and Astrologer.

 

Doctor uses the knowledge already existing to predict what could

be the problem with the patient and cures him. It is not that the

doctor let him pass away and then on this cadaver apply the theory and

learn. His job is to save the patient. Not to learn the knowledge by

let him pass away.

 

So astrology is also the same. astrologer's job is to predict the

event, not let the plane crash and then start applying the theories to

prove the world. Good astrologers predict the events well in advance.

At least a hint if not perfectly correct.

 

--Chandrasekaran.B

 

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

>

> Then again, can one become a doctor and eventually save lives without having

> learned anatomy on cadavers and without learning pathology through doing

> autopsies (post mortems) on dead patients?

>

> That is, if astrology is a science as most claim...?

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , chandrasekaran iyer <shekar1975

> wrote:

>>

>> sorry to comment on this. But the actual real good astrologer is one

>> who predicts the event well in advance and try to caution the victim.

>> Doing post mortem of the event is not that gr8 astrology that anybody

>> can do.

>>

>> --shekar.B

>>

>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:09 PM, vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>> >

>> >

>> > To All :

>> >

>> > The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

>> > Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

>> >

>> > 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

>> >

>> > 2) Rahu in 2nd,

>> >

>> > 3) Ketu in 8th,

>> >

>> > 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being

>> > under highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

>> >

>> > 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation

>> > with malefic Sun.

>> >

>> > 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had

>> > mutual aspect relation with Sun too.

>> >

>> > 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

>> > lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

>> >

>> > 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house

>> > in its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic

>> > Venus which was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

>> >

>> > Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose

>> > names begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

>> >

>> > l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

>> >

>> > retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

>> >

>> > h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

>> >

>> > l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

>> >

>> > v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

>> >

>> > a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

>> >

>> > Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu

>> > pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is

>> > hardly any chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong

>> > longevity combinations in his/her personal horoscope.

>> >

>> > Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

>> >

>> > 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal

>> > FPA, mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter

>> > enemy's house, in watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas

>> > of North Atlantic. Rio de Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in

>> > airy naadi.

>> >

>> > 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd

>> > house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in

>> > watery naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in

>> > bitter enemical sign with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th

>> > house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona.

>> > Saturn was lord of 8th and related to maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th,

>> > which made Saturn the main killer. The duration of 4th Nakshatra is from

>> > 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn and better

>> > maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

>> > given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5

>> > to 27 for the whole year).

>> >

>> > 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained

>> > crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis,

>> > and 6th lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close

>> > relation with Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of

>> > being lord of inauspicious 12th and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in

>> > 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd maarakesh Mars was in its

>> > mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with enmical Mercury in

>> > chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect on northern

>> > part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being lord

>> > of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

>> > around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well

>> > as reports.

>> >

>> > I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

>> > worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

>> > from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

>> > shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in

>> > the same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha

>> > Pravesha chart in those regions.

>> >

>> > Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news.

>> > Charts made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a

>> > strong turbulence struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted

>> > Venus in airy naadi entered 2nd house of Killer), just after which crash

>> > took place.

>> >

>> > Here are some news items scanned through internet

>> >

>> > <http://duard.com.br/blog/af-447-voo-airfrance-lista-de-passageiros-todo\

>> > s-mortos.html/_45852693_plane_crash2_466> :

>> >

>> > 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

>> > according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

>> > Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

>> > Brazil.

>> >

>> > 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

>> >

>> > 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

>> >

>> > 1140 GMT: Brazil's air force says Flight AF 447 was " well

>> > advanced " over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

>> >

>> > 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical

>> > fault from the aircraft.

>> >

>> > 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused

>> > by the plane suffering a lightning strike.

>> >

>> > 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

>> > survivors from the flight is " very slim " .

>> >

>> > Here are some names who were onboard ;

>> >

>> > 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of

>> > ThyssenKrupp-Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

>> >

>> > 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

>> >

>> > 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

>> >

>> > 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

>> >

>> > 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank

>> > and Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto

>> > Alegre is a City in the South of Brazil)

>> >

>> > 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

>> >

>> > 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager

>> > of OI Phone Company

>> >

>> > 8.) Deise Possamai

>> >

>> > 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

>> >

>> > 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

>> >

>> > 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro

>> > II Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

>> >

>> > 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus

>> > Association - Italy

>> >

>> > 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige -

>> > Italy

>> >

>> > 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

>> >

>> > 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

>> >

>> > -Vinay Jha

>> > ======================= ======

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

If we extend Chandrasekharanji's point then it would be advisable for the

Airlines and all the Transport authorities to employ Jyotishis to fix the

time-tables of departures.

 

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

 

--- On Tue, 6/2/09, Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani wrote:

 

 

Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani

Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

 

Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 7:02 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Then again, can one become a doctor and eventually save lives without having

learned anatomy on cadavers and without learning pathology through doing

autopsies (post mortems) on dead patients?

 

That is, if astrology is a science as most claim...?

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, chandrasekaran iyer <shekar1975@ ...>

wrote:

>

> sorry to comment on this. But the actual real good astrologer is one

> who predicts the event well in advance and try to caution the victim.

> Doing post mortem of the event is not that gr8 astrology that anybody

> can do.

>

> --shekar.B

>

> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:09 PM, vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > To All :

> >

> > The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

> > Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

> >

> > 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

> >

> > 2) Rahu in 2nd,

> >

> > 3) Ketu in 8th,

> >

> > 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being

> > under highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

> >

> > 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation

> > with malefic Sun.

> >

> > 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had

> > mutual aspect relation with Sun too.

> >

> > 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

> > lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

> >

> > 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house

> > in its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic

> > Venus which was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

> >

> > Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose

> > names begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

> >

> > l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

> >

> > retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

> >

> > h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

> >

> > l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

> >

> > v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

> >

> > a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

> >

> > Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu

> > pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is

> > hardly any chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong

> > longevity combinations in his/her personal horoscope.

> >

> > Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

> >

> > 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal

> > FPA, mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter

> > enemy's house, in watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas

> > of North Atlantic. Rio de Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in

> > airy naadi.

> >

> > 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd

> > house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in

> > watery naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in

> > bitter enemical sign with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th

> > house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona.

> > Saturn was lord of 8th and related to maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th,

> > which made Saturn the main killer. The duration of 4th Nakshatra is from

> > 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn and better

> > maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

> > given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5

> > to 27 for the whole year).

> >

> > 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained

> > crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis,

> > and 6th lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close

> > relation with Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of

> > being lord of inauspicious 12th and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in

> > 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd maarakesh Mars was in its

> > mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with enmical Mercury in

> > chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect on northern

> > part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being lord

> > of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

> > around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well

> > as reports.

> >

> > I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

> > worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

> > from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

> > shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in

> > the same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha

> > Pravesha chart in those regions.

> >

> > Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news.

> > Charts made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a

> > strong turbulence struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted

> > Venus in airy naadi entered 2nd house of Killer), just after which crash

> > took place.

> >

> > Here are some news items scanned through internet

> > <http://duard. com.br/blog/ af-447-voo- airfrance- lista-de- passageiros-

todo\

> > s-mortos.html/ _45852693_ plane_crash2_ 466> :

> >

> > 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

> > according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

> > Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

> > Brazil.

> >

> > 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

> >

> > 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

> >

> > 1140 GMT: Brazil's air force says Flight AF 447 was " well

> > advanced " over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

> >

> > 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical

> > fault from the aircraft.

> >

> > 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused

> > by the plane suffering a lightning strike.

> >

> > 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

> > survivors from the flight is " very slim " .

> >

> > Here are some names who were onboard ;

> >

> > 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of

> > ThyssenKrupp- Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

> >

> > 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

> >

> > 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

> >

> > 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

> >

> > 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank

> > and Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto

> > Alegre is a City in the South of Brazil)

> >

> > 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

> >

> > 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager

> > of OI Phone Company

> >

> > 8.) Deise Possamai

> >

> > 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

> >

> > 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

> >

> > 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro

> > II Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

> >

> > 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus

> > Association - Italy

> >

> > 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige -

> > Italy

> >

> > 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

> >

> > 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

> >

> > -Vinay Jha

> > ============ ========= == ======

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

There are couple of things we need to understand..

 

1. Had the Air France come to a Jyotish and asked him, I have a plan taking off

from Rio at So and So Time on So and So Day.. Should it? Then the jyotish would

have said.. NO HELL NO.

2. But a jyotish sitting in Hyderbad doesn't even know that the plane is taking

off from Rio at xx.xx on xx-xx-xxxx. So how does he predict.

 

Probably the mistake is to do Post Mortem.. Is that the mistake here.

Otherwise we should expect a person with " Divya Dhrushti " .

 

Thanks

C

, Ravindramani CS <ravindramani wrote:

>

> Dear Krishna,

>

> I started smiling when read this and laughed heartfully afterwards. LOL

>

> Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Vinay,

 

I think in addition to your analysis one has to take into account the path of

the plane as a dangerous spot developed at that particular place (ie. at that

particular latitude and longitude) and that time when the plane passed through

it. So an analysis of the kundali of that place at that particular time will be

equally relevant, if not more.

 

Sincerely,

 

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

 

--- On Tue, 6/2/09, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

 

 

Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16

Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

 

Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 10:46 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The method I used here is so difficult that that only a few supermen

will be able to predict anything using it on their own, but a team work

may yield good results. Most of the scientists work with team spirit,

while astrologers laugh at each other, even when 228 innocent persons get

killed.

 

A member asked what was the chance of any survival in this crash, which prompted

me to carry out the analysis. I said : " There is hardly any chance of a single

survival " .

 

<<< " Once the event is known, astrologers will be able to show it using their

own methods, be it Vedic, KP, Western, Uranian or any other homegrown

techniques. " >>>

 

Why not show one's own technique in explaining the event? Failure to predict is

a result of failure to learn from and respect

each other, failure to compare various methods impartially, and failure

to admit one's mistakes and rectify them. To err is human, but to stick

to methods which fail to explain events is not good. Post-event analyses are

indespensable for learning , comparing and rectifying our methods, as

Rohiniranjan ji rightly feels.

 

-VJ

============ ==== =======

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Ravindramani CS <ravindramani@ gmail.com>

 

Wednesday, June 3, 2009 9:36:41 AM

Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

 

Dear Krishna,

 

I started smiling when read this and laughed heartfully afterwards. LOL

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

 

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <

krishna_1998@ > wrote:

 

>

>

> Agreed Sir! Once the event is known, astrologers will be able to show it

> using their own methods, be it Vedic, KP, Western, Uranian or any other

> homegrown techniques. When it comes to prediction most of us falter.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> chandrasekaran iyer <shekar1975@ gmail. com <shekar1975% 40gmail.com> >

> <% 40. com>

> Tuesday, 2 June, 2009 2:52:00 PM

> Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

>

>

> sorry to comment on this. But the actual real good astrologer is one

> who predicts the event well in advance and try to caution the victim.

> Doing post mortem of the event is not that gr8 astrology that anybody

> can do.

>

> --shekar.B

>

> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:09 PM, vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16@ >

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > To All :

> >

> > The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

> > Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

> >

> > 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

> >

> > 2) Rahu in 2nd,

> >

> > 3) Ketu in 8th,

> >

> > 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being

> > under highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

> >

> > 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation

> > with malefic Sun.

> >

> > 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had

> > mutual aspect relation with Sun too.

> >

> > 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

> > lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

> >

> > 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house

> > in its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic

> > Venus which was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

> >

> > Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose

> > names begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

> >

> > l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

> >

> > retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

> >

> > h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

> >

> > l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

> >

> > v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

> >

> > a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

> >

> > Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu

> > pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is

> > hardly any chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong

> > longevity combinations in his/her personal horoscope.

> >

> > Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

> >

> > 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal

> > FPA, mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter

> > enemy's house, in watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas

> > of North Atlantic. Rio de Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in

> > airy naadi.

> >

> > 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd

> > house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in

> > watery naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in

> > bitter enemical sign with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th

> > house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona.

> > Saturn was lord of 8th and related to maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th,

> > which made Saturn the main killer. The duration of 4th Nakshatra is from

> > 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn and better

> > maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

> > given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5

> > to 27 for the whole year).

> >

> > 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained

> > crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis,

> > and 6th lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close

> > relation with Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of

> > being lord of inauspicious 12th and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in

> > 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd maarakesh Mars was in its

> > mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with enmical Mercury in

> > chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect on northern

> > part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being lord

> > of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

> > around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well

> > as reports.

> >

> > I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

> > worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

> > from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

> > shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in

> > the same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha

> > Pravesha chart in those regions.

> >

> > Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news.

> > Charts made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a

> > strong turbulence struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted

> > Venus in airy naadi entered 2nd house of Killer), just after which crash

> > took place.

> >

> > Here are some news items scanned through internet

> > <http://duard. com.br/blog/ af-447-voo- airfrance- lista-de-

> passageiros- todo\

> > s-mortos.html/ _45852693_ plane_crash2_ 466> :

> >

> > 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

> > according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

> > Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

> > Brazil.

> >

> > 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

> >

> > 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

> >

> > 1140 GMT: Brazil's air force says Flight AF 447 was " well

> > advanced " over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

> >

> > 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical

> > fault from the aircraft.

> >

> > 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused

> > by the plane suffering a lightning strike.

> >

> > 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

> > survivors from the flight is " very slim " .

> >

> > Here are some names who were onboard ;

> >

> > 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of

> > ThyssenKrupp- Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

> >

> > 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

> >

> > 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

> >

> > 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

> >

> > 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank

> > and Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto

> > Alegre is a City in the South of Brazil)

> >

> > 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

> >

> > 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager

> > of OI Phone Company

> >

> > 8.) Deise Possamai

> >

> > 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

> >

> > 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

> >

> > 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro

> > II Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

> >

> > 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus

> > Association - Italy

> >

> > 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige -

> > Italy

> >

> > 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

> >

> > 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

> >

> > -Vinay Jha

> > ============ ========= == ======

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Vinay,

 

I think in addition to your analysis one has to take into account the path of the plane as a dangerous spot developed at that particular place (ie. at that particular latitude and longitude) and that time when the plane passed through it. So an analysis of the kundali of that place at that particular time will be equally relevant, if not more.

 

Sincerely,

 

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Tue, 6/2/09, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009 Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 10:46 PM

 

 

The method I used here is so difficult that that only a few supermenwill be able to predict anything using it on their own, but a team workmay yield good results. Most of the scientists work with team spirit,while astrologers laugh at each other, even when 228 innocent persons get killed.A member asked what was the chance of any survival in this crash, which prompted me to carry out the analysis. I said : "There is hardly any chance of a single survival".<<< "Once the event is known, astrologers will be able to show it using their own methods, be it Vedic, KP, Western, Uranian or any other homegrown techniques." >>>Why not show one's own technique in explaining the event? Failure to predict is a result of failure to learn from and respecteach other, failure to compare various methods impartially, and failureto admit one's mistakes and rectify them. To err is human, but to stickto

methods which fail to explain events is not good. Post-event analyses are indespensable for learning , comparing and rectifying our methods, as Rohiniranjan ji rightly feels.-VJ============ ==== =======____________ _________ _________ __Ravindramani CS <ravindramani@ gmail.com>Wednesday, June 3, 2009 9:36:41 AMRe: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009Dear Krishna,I started smiling when read this and laughed heartfully afterwards. LOLRegards, C.S. RavindramaniOn Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 8:58 AM,

Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > wrote:>>> Agreed Sir! Once the event is known, astrologers will be able to show it> using their own methods, be it Vedic, KP, Western, Uranian or any other> homegrown techniques. When it comes to prediction most of us falter.>> Regards,> Krishna>> ____________ _________ _________ __> chandrasekaran iyer <shekar1975@ gmail. com <shekar1975% 40gmail.com> >> <% 40. com>> Tuesday, 2 June, 2009 2:52:00 PM> Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009>>> sorry to comment on this. But the actual real good astrologer is one> who predicts the event well in advance and try to caution the victim.> Doing post mortem of the event is not that gr8 astrology

that anybody> can do.>> --shekar.B>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:09 PM, vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16@ >> wrote:> >> >> > To All :> >> > The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to> > Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :> >> > 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,> >> > 2) Rahu in 2nd,> >> > 3) Ketu in 8th,> >> > 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being> > under highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)> >> > 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation> > with malefic Sun.> >> > 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had> > mutual aspect relation with Sun

too.> >> > 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%> > lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too> >> > 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house> > in its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic> > Venus which was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.> >> > Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose> > names begin with following letters have least chances of survival :> >> > l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)> >> > retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)> >> > h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)> >> > l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)>

>> > v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)> >> > a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)> >> > Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu> > pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is> > hardly any chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong> > longevity combinations in his/her personal horoscope.> >> > Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :> >> > 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal> > FPA, mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter> > enemy's house, in watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas> > of North Atlantic. Rio de Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in> > airy naadi.> >>

> 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd> > house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in> > watery naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in> > bitter enemical sign with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th> > house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona.> > Saturn was lord of 8th and related to maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th,> > which made Saturn the main killer. The duration of 4th Nakshatra is from> > 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn and better> > maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be> > given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5> > to 27 for the whole year).> >> > 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained>

> crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis,> > and 6th lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close> > relation with Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of> > being lord of inauspicious 12th and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in> > 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd maarakesh Mars was in its> > mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with enmical Mercury in> > chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect on northern> > part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being lord> > of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp> > around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well> > as reports.> >> > I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :> > worst

killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was> > from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th> > shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in> > the same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha> > Pravesha chart in those regions.> >> > Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news.> > Charts made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a> > strong turbulence struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted> > Venus in airy naadi entered 2nd house of Killer), just after which crash> > took place.> >> > Here are some news items scanned through internet> > <http://duard. com.br/blog/ af-447-voo- airfrance- lista-de-> passageiros- todo\> >

s-mortos.html/ _45852693_ plane_crash2_ 466> :> >> > 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,> > according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the> > Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of> > Brazil.> >> > 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.> >> > 0214 GMT : last automated message received.> >> > 1140 GMT: Brazil's air force says Flight AF 447 was "well> > advanced" over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.> >> > 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical> > fault from the aircraft.> >> > 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused> > by the plane suffering a lightning strike.> >> > 1651 GMT: French

President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding> > survivors from the flight is "very slim".> >> > Here are some names who were onboard ;> >> > 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of> > ThyssenKrupp- Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)> >> > 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America> >> > 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin> >> > 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin> >> > 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank> > and Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto> > Alegre is a City in the South of Brazil)> >> > 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)> >> > 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager> > of OI Phone

Company> >> > 8.) Deise Possamai> >> > 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.> >> > 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer> >> > 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro> > II Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831> >> > 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus> > Association - Italy> >> > 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige -> > Italy> >> > 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy> >> > 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.> >> > -Vinay Jha> > ============ ========= == ======> >> >

[Guest guest]

but Mr sunil, i think you are confused with the statement i wrote. i

think your comprehension is not so good :-) i told to predict the

calamity, accidents. Every day plane flies, every day it doesn't meet

with accident so no need to jyotish. Jyotish should be used to predict

something dangerous which is going to happen, not for every day event.

Everyday is not a bad day, some days are bad which needs to be

predicted. i hope you got it.

 

--chandrasekaran.B

 

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Sunil Bhattacharjya

<sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

>

>

> If we extend Chandrasekharanji's point then it would be advisable for the

> Airlines and all the Transport authorities to employ Jyotishis to fix the

> time-tables of departures.

>

> Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

>

> --- On Tue, 6/2/09, Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani

> Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

>

> Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 7:02 PM

>

> Then again, can one become a doctor and eventually save lives without having

> learned anatomy on cadavers and without learning pathology through doing

> autopsies (post mortems) on dead patients?

>

> That is, if astrology is a science as most claim...?

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , chandrasekaran iyer <shekar1975@ ...>

> wrote:

>>

>> sorry to comment on this. But the actual real good astrologer is one

>> who predicts the event well in advance and try to caution the victim.

>> Doing post mortem of the event is not that gr8 astrology that anybody

>> can do.

>>

>> --shekar.B

>>

>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:09 PM, vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote:

>> >

>> >

>> > To All :

>> >

>> > The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

>> > Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

>> >

>> > 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

>> >

>> > 2) Rahu in 2nd,

>> >

>> > 3) Ketu in 8th,

>> >

>> > 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being

>> > under highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

>> >

>> > 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation

>> > with malefic Sun.

>> >

>> > 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had

>> > mutual aspect relation with Sun too.

>> >

>> > 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

>> > lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

>> >

>> > 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house

>> > in its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic

>> > Venus which was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

>> >

>> > Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose

>> > names begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

>> >

>> > l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

>> >

>> > retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

>> >

>> > h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

>> >

>> > l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

>> >

>> > v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

>> >

>> > a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

>> >

>> > Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu

>> > pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is

>> > hardly any chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong

>> > longevity combinations in his/her personal horoscope.

>> >

>> > Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

>> >

>> > 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal

>> > FPA, mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter

>> > enemy's house, in watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas

>> > of North Atlantic. Rio de Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in

>> > airy naadi.

>> >

>> > 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd

>> > house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in

>> > watery naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in

>> > bitter enemical sign with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th

>> > house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona.

>> > Saturn was lord of 8th and related to maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th,

>> > which made Saturn the main killer. The duration of 4th Nakshatra is from

>> > 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn and better

>> > maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

>> > given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5

>> > to 27 for the whole year).

>> >

>> > 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained

>> > crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis,

>> > and 6th lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close

>> > relation with Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of

>> > being lord of inauspicious 12th and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in

>> > 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd maarakesh Mars was in its

>> > mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with enmical Mercury in

>> > chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect on northern

>> > part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being lord

>> > of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

>> > around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well

>> > as reports.

>> >

>> > I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

>> > worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

>> > from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

>> > shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in

>> > the same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha

>> > Pravesha chart in those regions.

>> >

>> > Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news.

>> > Charts made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a

>> > strong turbulence struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted

>> > Venus in airy naadi entered 2nd house of Killer), just after which crash

>> > took place.

>> >

>> > Here are some news items scanned through internet

>> > <http://duard. com.br/blog/ af-447-voo- airfrance- lista-de-

>> > passageiros- todo\

>> > s-mortos.html/ _45852693_ plane_crash2_ 466> :

>> >

>> > 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

>> > according to the Brazilian air force. The jet had just passed the

>> > Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

>> > Brazil.

>> >

>> > 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

>> >

>> > 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

>> >

>> > 1140 GMT: Brazil's air force says Flight AF 447 was " well

>> > advanced " over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

>> >

>> > 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical

>> > fault from the aircraft.

>> >

>> > 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused

>> > by the plane suffering a lightning strike.

>> >

>> > 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

>> > survivors from the flight is " very slim " .

>> >

>> > Here are some names who were onboard ;

>> >

>> > 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of

>> > ThyssenKrupp- Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

>> >

>> > 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

>> >

>> > 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

>> >

>> > 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

>> >

>> > 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank

>> > and Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital.(Porto

>> > Alegre is a City in the South of Brazil)

>> >

>> > 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

>> >

>> > 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager

>> > of OI Phone Company

>> >

>> > 8.) Deise Possamai

>> >

>> > 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

>> >

>> > 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

>> >

>> > 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro

>> > II Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

>> >

>> > 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus

>> > Association - Italy

>> >

>> > 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige -

>> > Italy

>> >

>> > 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

>> >

>> > 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

>> >

>> > -Vinay Jha

>> > ============ ========= == ======

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

Chandrasekharanji is repeatedly saying that " the actual real good astrologer is

one who predicts the event well in advance and try to caution the victim " ,

stressing the goodness of a " good " astrologer with additional epithets like

" actual " and " real " , suggesting that any post-event analysis is the sign of

unreal bad astrologer. Can Chandrasekharanji show us how an astrologer can keep

track of so many flights and make predictions about them single-handedly ? And

even if someone accomplishes this Herculean task, which airliner would have

heeded his/her predictions ? AF447 took off in Uttara Phalguni Nakshatra when

there was no muhurta

for any long distance travel. If airliners do not respect Jyotisha, it

is not the fault of Jyotishis. Had Chandrasekharanji himself predicted the crash

of AF447, would Air France heeded his advice ?

 

The fact is that astrologers cannot monitor and predict so many movements of

aircrafts, trains and ships. They lack the infrastructure scientists possess. As

a result, this field has not been thoroughly investigated by astrologers in a

concerted manner. To be frank, no astrologer can predict such mishaps with

certainty because the method is too complicated to allow predictions by

indivuduals. We need some simple method which could allow an individual to

monitor and predict crashes. This calls for research. Research cannot be carried

out without post-event analysis.

 

Chandrasekharanji's repeated assaults on post-event analysis suggesting that it

is unreal and bad astrology is nothing but a call for ban on all research in the

field of astrology. I was apalled ay " laughing " of some members at my attempts

to understand and explain a tragedy which claimed 228 lives. These fellows

cannot find fault with my approach, and cannot put forth any alternative

approach, they can only deride and belittle attempts by someone to explain the

tragedy.

 

Why Chandrasekharanji does not publish a list of his predictions about

forthcoming crashes, if he is a " actual " and " real " and " good " astrologer ??

 

These complex fields need cooperative efforts and good infrastructure to

support, which scientists possess, while astrologers " laugh " at each other. It

is saddening to not that these fellows are merely trying to bury and divert the

issue : the main issue is that astrologers need a clear methodology which anyone

could use for predicting crashes with a fair degree of reliability. Instead of

throwing light upon this cardinal problem, these fellows are burying this topic.

If my approach is faulty, which they laugh at without pointing at the lapses, if

any, why they do not come up with alternative approaches ? Are they not

interested in finding out the means to predict crashes ? If they do not know how

to predict, why others cannot carry out the research ?

 

-Vinay Jha

============================= ===

 

 

________________________________

Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya

 

Wednesday, June 3, 2009 6:31:13 PM

Re: Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

 

 

 

 

 

If we extend Chandrasekharanji' s point then it would be advisable for the

Airlines and all the Transport authorities to employ Jyotishis to fix the

time-tables of departures.

 

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

 

--- On Tue, 6/2/09, Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

 

Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

 

Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 7:02 PM

 

Then again, can one become a doctor and eventually save lives without having

learned anatomy on cadavers and without learning pathology through doing

autopsies (post mortems) on dead patients?

 

That is, if astrology is a science as most claim...?

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, chandrasekaran iyer <shekar1975@ ...>

wrote:

>

> sorry to comment on this. But the actual real good astrologer is one

> who predicts the event well in advance and try to caution the victim.

> Doing post mortem of the event is not that gr8 astrology that anybody

> can do.

>

> --shekar.B

>

> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:09 PM, vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > To All :

> >

> > The take off time of AF-447 was highly inauspicious according to

> > Suryasiddhantic Kundalee software :

> >

> > 1) Lords of 9th, 10th and 7th bhaavas in 6th house,

> >

> > 2) Rahu in 2nd,

> >

> > 3) Ketu in 8th,

> >

> > 4) Maarkesh (main killer) Saturn in 10th house of Sun, Saturn being

> > under highly malefic 72% lord-aspect control of Sun sitting in 6th. 1)

> >

> > 5) Rahu in the house of killer (2nd) had bitter enmical aspect relation

> > with malefic Sun.

> >

> > 6) Lord of ascendant Jupiter was in enemy Saturn's 3rd house and had

> > mutual aspect relation with Sun too.

> >

> > 7) Lord of 8th Moon had conjunction relation with Saturn and was in 69%

> > lord-aspect control of malefic Sun too

> >

> > 8) the only planet with some good potential was Mars, being in 5th house

> > in its moolatrikona, but there too it was conjunct with highly malefic

> > Venus which was in enemy's house and lord of 6th and 11th houses.

> >

> > Thus, entire chart is dominated by killer combinations. Persons whose

> > names begin with following letters have least chances of survival :

> >

> > l, m (pierced by main killer Saturn and by malefic Venus)

> >

> > retroflex t, j, l, m, u, nasal (anusvar) (pierced by second killer Moon)

> >

> > h, s, d, retroflex d, vowels e and u (pierced by third killer Ketu)

> >

> > l, ch, d, s, g, kh, m, vowel u (pierced by fourth killer Rahu)

> >

> > v,b,r,a kh, vowels u,e,au (pierced by subsidiary killer Sun)

> >

> > a,u,o (pierced by subsidiary killer Mercury)

> >

> > Mars has slight benefits for names beginning with u , but Moon and ketu

> > pierce it. No name is auspiciously pierced by any planet. There is

> > hardly any chance of a single survival, unless someone has strong

> > longevity combinations in his/her personal horoscope.

> >

> > Merucentric Medini Jyotisha (mundane) charts reveal following points :

> >

> > 1) In annual Merucentric chart at the time of Mesha Pravesha (sidereal

> > FPA, mid April), Saturn is maarakesh (main killer) and is in bitter

> > enemy's house, in watery naadi and afflicting France and adjoining areas

> > of North Atlantic. Rio de Janeiro was in inauspicious 6th house and in

> > airy naadi.

> >

> > 2) In Merucentric chart of 4th Nakshatra which contained crash time, 3rd

> > house contained France and adjoining areas, Saturn sitting there in

> > watery naadi, while the lord of 3rd house Sun was in airy naadi in

> > bitter enemical sign with Maarakesh moon and lagnesh Mercury in 12th

> > house. Rio de Janeiro was in 6th house lorded by Mars of moolatrikona.

> > Saturn was lord of 8th and related to maarakesh Moon and Sun in 12th,

> > which made Saturn the main killer. The duration of 4th Nakshatra is from

> > 25 May to 8 June 2009. 1-3 Nakshatras had better Saturn and better

> > maarakesh, hence the evil effects of Mesha Pravesha chart had to be

> > given during 4th Nakshatra (I've not analyzed future Nakshatras from 5

> > to 27 for the whole year).

> >

> > 3) In Merucentric chart of shashtyamsha (half day chart) which contained

> > crash time, Saturn sits in 6th house with Moon, both in watery naadis,

> > and 6th lord Sun sits in bitter enemy's sign in 3rd house having close

> > relation with Saturn and Moon . Saturn was a main killer by dint of

> > being lord of inauspicious 12th and 11th houses. Mid Atlantic was in

> > 8th house of Death. Since lord of 2nd maarakesh Mars was in its

> > mooltrikona and was in airy naadi together with enmical Mercury in

> > chandaa naadi, and exalted Venus was also having full aspect on northern

> > part of 8th house owned by it (Venus was exalted but malefic being lord

> > of 3rd and 8th houses), there was strong turbulence in mid Atlantic, esp

> > around equator which seems to be crash site according to charts as well

> > as reports.

> >

> > I analyzed all previous half-day shashtyamsha charts of 4th Nakshatra :

> > worst killer combination was in 12th shashtyamsha whose duration was

> > from 31 may 23:41:25 GMT to 1 June 12:15:58 GMT . Hence, 12th

> > shashtyamsha had to give the ominous results of 4th Nakshatra chart, in

> > the same way 4th Nakshatra was destined to give the result of Mesha

> > Pravesha chart in those regions.

> >

> > Crash time appears to be 0207 GMT (± 7 minutes) from internet news.

> > Charts made from expected crash site (~30 W and 10N) indicate that a

> > strong turbulence struck the aircraft at 02:04:19 GMT (when exalted

> > Venus in airy naadi entered 2nd house of Killer), just after which crash

> > took place.

> >

> > Here are some news items scanned through internet

> > <http://duard. com.br/blog/ af-447-voo- airfrance- lista-de- passageiros-

todo\

> > s-mortos.html/ _45852693_ plane_crash2_ 466> :

> >

> > 0133 GMT, Monday 1 June: Last radar contact with flight AF 447,

> > according to the Brazilian air force.. The jet had just passed the

> > Fernando de Noronha islands, about 350 km (217 miles) off the coast of

> > Brazil.

> >

> > 0200 GMT : the aircraft crossed into a high turbulence zone.

> >

> > 0214 GMT : last automated message received.

> >

> > 1140 GMT: Brazil's air force says Flight AF 447 was " well

> > advanced " over the Atlantic Ocean when it went missing.

> >

> > 1142 GMT: Air France confirms it received a message about an electrical

> > fault from the aircraft.

> >

> > 1213 GMT: Air France suggests the electrical fault may have been caused

> > by the plane suffering a lightning strike.

> >

> > 1651 GMT: French President Nicolas Sarkozy says the prospect of finding

> > survivors from the flight is " very slim " .

> >

> > Here are some names who were onboard ;

> >

> > 1.) Eirch Heine - President of Admistration Council of

> > ThyssenKrupp- Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico(CSA)

> >

> > 2.) Luis Roberto Anastacio - President Michelin South America

> >

> > 3.) Antonio Guerios - IT Director Michelin

> >

> > 4.) Christin Pieraerts - Employee Michelin

> >

> > 5.) Dr. Roberto Correa Chem - Plastic Surgeon - Director of Skin Bank

> > and Chief of Plastic Surgery Service of Porto Alegre Hospital..(Porto

> > Alegre is a City in the South of Brazil)

> >

> > 6.) Vera Chem (Wife of Dr. Chem)

> >

> > 7.) Leticia Chem (daughter of Dr. Chem - International Roaming manager

> > of OI Phone Company

> >

> > 8.) Deise Possamai

> >

> > 9.) Marcelo Parente - Chief of Staff of Rio de Janeiro Mayor.

> >

> > 10.) Leonardo Veloso Dardengo - Oceanographer

> >

> > 11.) Pedro Luiz de Orleans e Braganca - Prince - Descendant of Don Pedro

> > II Brazilian Emperor 1822-1831

> >

> > 12.) Rino Zandonai - Director of the Trentini Nel Mondo Onlus

> > Association - Italy

> >

> > 13.) Giambattista Lenzi - Regional Conselor of Trentino Alto Adige -

> > Italy

> >

> > 14.) Gianni Zortea - Mayor, Canal San Bovo - Italy

> >

> > 15.) Silvio Barbato - Conductor Rio Municipal Theater.

> >

> > -Vinay Jha

> > ============ ========= == ======

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Those who lack " Divya Dhrushti " expect it from others. Without Post Mortem,

causes cannot be identified and applied for future predictions.

 

 

 

________________________________

pkssk <pkssk

 

Wednesday, June 3, 2009 10:25:30 PM

Re: Aircraft Crash : AF447 tragedy on June 1, 2009

 

 

 

 

 

There are couple of things we need to understand..

 

1. Had the Air France come to a Jyotish and asked him, I have a plan taking off

from Rio at So and So Time on So and So Day.. Should it? Then the jyotish would

have said.. NO HELL NO.

2. But a jyotish sitting in Hyderbad doesn't even know that the plane is taking

off from Rio at xx.xx on xx-xx-xxxx. So how does he predict.

 

Probably the mistake is to do Post Mortem.. Is that the mistake here.

Otherwise we should expect a person with " Divya Dhrushti " .

 

Thanks

C

, Ravindramani CS <ravindramani@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Krishna,

>

> I started smiling when read this and laughed heartfully afterwards. LOL

>

> Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

>