Guest guest Report post Posted October 11, 2004 Dear Mukesh, First of all check whether the birth-time given is correct... If the sub-lord of the Ascendant is the Moon-star lord only then, is the horoscope cast at the correct Birth-time,as per Astrosecrets & K.P.,(chapter on " correct time of Birth " )... As far as my experience goes,if the VIIth cvuspis the significator of I or VI or X or XII...marriage may not take place,with the person in question... Hence your selecting XII as signifying a foreigner may be correct,but is also fraught with serious consequences...in my humble opinion... If the sublord of VII signifies II,VII, & XI,RPs of the Girl also are also the significators of II,VII & XI...a very happy and harmonious married life can be safely predicted with utmost confidence. Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK ! Dear Sirs, I am a learner of KP and following Chart is Quite confusing me. I need advice from the experienced friends. Female, DOB- 25-05-1977, Wednesday, Magha star; TOB- 13:25; POB- PANNA (M.P.); Lat-24N35, long- 80E13; The 7th Cusp SL is Su owner of 1st and posited in 9th .. Su is in Star of Mo owner of 12th posited in 12th and in the Sub of Mo. Su is Conj with Ju. Ju is 5-8-9. Thus Su signifies 12-9-1-5-8. Does it mean that She will marry to a stranger, foreigner or involving long distance? and what else? Lagna is Leo. 2nd Cusp: - Occupant Ra no planet in the star of Ra. Ra in the Sign of Me (Gemini). Owner is Me. Ma, Ve, Sa, Ke are in the star of Me. Me is Owner of 2 & 11 posited in 8, Ma is owner of 4 & 9 posited in 8, Ve is Owner of 3 & 10 posited in 7, Ke is posited in 8 in the sign of Ju, Sa is owner of 6 & 7 posited in 11. Hence relation to 2,7 & 11 is there. Thus Significator for 2nd are Sa-Ve-Ra-Ma-Me-Ke (Ra in star of Ma and Ke in Star of Me) 7th Cusp:- Occupant is Ve, Me in star of Ve. Owner is Sa, no planet in star of Sa. Me signifies 2 & 11, Ve signifies 7, Sa signifies 7 & 11. Hence relation to 2,7 & 11 is there. Thus Significators for 7th are Sa-Ve-Me. 11th Cusp:- Occupant Sa, Owner Me. Thus Significators are Sa-Ve-Ma- Me-Ke. Thus for 2,7,11 significator are Sa-Ra-Ma-Ve-Me-Ke and also Su being 7th SL. Date of Divination 10-10-2004, 19:07 at Jabalpur Lat 23N10, long 79E58 Ruling Planet: Day lord Su, Lagna sign Ma- Lagna star Ve- Lagna sub Ra. Moon Sign Su, Moon star Ke, Moon Sub Sa. Thus RP's are Su, Ma, Ve, Ke, Sa Blending the RP and Significators the final list is Su-Sa-Ma-Ve-Ke. Current DBA is Su-Ma-Ra As per KP ayanamsa in Kundli2000 Softwere up to 21-10-2004, then Ju antara up to 7-11-2004, Sa antara up to 27-11- 2004. As per my Analysis The marriage can take place in Su-Ma-Sa period when Su is transiting in Ma-Sa-Su. Is the analysis correct? Kindly point out mistakes. Expecting an early guidance. yours sincerely Mukesh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Dear Shri Lajmi ji, Thanks for your valuable advice. Just for clarification i want to submit that, the horo was prepared by experienced KP Astrologer Sh. S. P. Khullar, who has recently published a book " True Astrology". and he told that birth time is correct. I will be greatful if you can cast horo at your end and check it for correctness. She has done MCA and presently she is in teaching profession. waiting for a positve response, yours sincerely, Mukesh Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Mukesh, First of all check whether the birth-timegiven is correct... If the sub-lord of the Ascendant is theMoon-star lord only then, is the horoscope cast at thecorrect Birth-time,as per Astrosecrets & K.P.,(chapteron "correct time of Birth")... As far as my experience goes,if the VIIthcvuspis the significator of I or VI or X orXII...marriage may not take place,with the person inquestion... Hence your selecting XII as signifying aforeigner may be correct,but is also fraught withserious consequences...in my humble opinion... If the sublord of VII signifies II,VII, & XI,RPs of the Girl also are also the significators ofII,VII & XI...a very happy and harmonious married lifecan be safely predicted with utmost confidence. Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK !Dear Sirs,I am a learner of KP and following Chart is Quiteconfusing me. I need advice from the experienced friends.Female, DOB- 25-05-1977, Wednesday, Magha star; TOB-13:25; POB- PANNA (M.P.); Lat-24N35, long- 80E13;The 7th Cusp SL is Su owner of 1st and posited in 9th. Su is in Star of Mo owner of 12th posited in 12th and in theSub of Mo. Su is Conj with Ju. Ju is 5-8-9. Thus Su signifies12-9-1-5-8. Does it mean that She will marry to a stranger,foreigner or involving long distance? and what else?Lagna is Leo.2nd Cusp: - Occupant Ra no planet in the star of Ra.Ra in the Sign of Me (Gemini). Owner is Me. Ma, Ve, Sa, Ke are in thestar of Me. Me is Owner of 2 & 11 posited in 8, Ma is owner of 4 & 9posited in 8, Ve is Owner of 3 & 10 posited in 7, Ke is posited in 8 in thesign of Ju, Sa is owner of 6 & 7 posited in 11. Hence relation to 2,7 & 11 is there.Thus Significator for 2nd are Sa-Ve-Ra-Ma-Me-Ke (Ra instar of Ma and Ke in Star of Me)7th Cusp:- Occupant is Ve, Me in star of Ve. Owner isSa, no planet in star of Sa. Me signifies 2 & 11, Ve signifies 7, Sasignifies 7 & 11. Hence relation to 2,7 & 11 is there.Thus Significators for 7th are Sa-Ve-Me.11th Cusp:- Occupant Sa, Owner Me. Thus Significatorsare Sa-Ve-Ma-Me-Ke.Thus for 2,7,11 significator are Sa-Ra-Ma-Ve-Me-Ke andalso Su being 7th SL.Date of Divination 10-10-2004, 19:07 at Jabalpur Lat23N10, long 79E58Ruling Planet: Day lord Su, Lagna sign Ma- Lagna starVe- Lagna sub Ra. Moon Sign Su, Moon star Ke, Moon Sub Sa.Thus RP's are Su, Ma, Ve, Ke, Sa Blending the RP and Significators the final list isSu-Sa-Ma-Ve-Ke.Current DBA is Su-Ma-Ra As per KP ayanamsa inKundli2000 Softwere up to 21-10-2004, then Ju antara up to 7-11-2004, Saantara up to 27-11-2004.As per my Analysis The marriage can take place inSu-Ma-Sa period when Su is transiting in Ma-Sa-Su.Is the analysis correct? Kindly point out mistakes.Expecting an early guidance.yours sincerelyMukesh Groups Sponsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Dear Mukesh, I think that the Birth time needs some correction... As requested,please adjust/correct the birth time such that the Ascendant Sub-lord and the STAR-LORD of the Moon,(AND NOT SUBLORD OF MOON)at birth are the same...that TOB will be correct,and cast K.P.Horoscope accordingly... Also,pl.note that the marriage will take place when the periods of the SIGNIFICATORS OF II,VII & XI houses...is operating...Dioes the Sun aspect any of the houses II,VII & XI ? Or, is the Sun conjoined with or powerfully aspecting the significator of the II,VII or the XI th houses...Pl. check. Then pl.let me know... Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK! - Dear Sir Yogesh rao Lajmi, Namaskar. I am learning astrology and regarding time of marriage I have some question. please solve at your convienance... Sir My marriage happened in Rahu mahadasa Mercury subdasa and sun sub-sub dasa at 11/nov/2000. I want to ask that neither any house or planet's nakshatra or planet is connected with sun. So How we can give sequence for understanding marriage timming. My date of birth is 09/August/1977 Place of birth is Moradabad Time of birth is 12:35 Night (A.M) (1)My Ascendant nakshatra lord is moon and sublord is Rahu (2)My 5th House nakshatra lord is moon and sublord is Rahu (3)My 7th house nakshatra lord is Saturn and sublord is Rahu (4)My 2nd House nakshatra lord is Rahu and sublord is Mercury (5)My 11th House nakshatra lord is Saturn and sublord is Rahu In Ascendant Moon and Mars (1)My Ascendant nakshatra lord is moon and sublord is Rahu (2)My Ascendant nakshatra lord is moon and sublord is Rahu In Second house Jupiter and Venus (1)My Jupiter's nakshatra lord is mars situted in 12th house and sublord is Venus situated in 2nd house. (2)My venus's nakshatra lord is Rahu situated in 5th house and sublord is Mercury situated in 4th house. In 5th house Rahu Rahu's nakshatra lord is Mars and sublord is rahu. (1)Ascendant lord is venus situated in 2nd house which nakshatra lord is rahu and sublord is Mercury. (2)2nd house lord is Mercury situated in 4th house which nakshatra lord is Venus and sublord is Rahu. (3)5th house lord is Mercury situated in 4th house which nakshatra lord is Venus and sublord is Rahu. (4)7th house lord is Mars situated in 12th house which nakshatra lord is Moon and sublord is Venus. (5)11th house lord is jupiter situated in 2nd House which nakshatra lord is Mars and sublord is venus. I want to ask that neither any house or planet's nakshatra or planet is connected with sun. So How we can give sequence for understanding marriage timming. Sir Please say me how we can find marriage time through K.P system With reference my marriage date... lot of thanxs and regards Richa -- In , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > Dear Mukesh, > First of all check whether the birth-time > given is correct... > If the sub-lord of the Ascendant is the > Moon-star lord only then, is the horoscope cast at the > correct Birth-time,as per Astrosecrets & K.P.,(chapter > on " correct time of Birth " )... > As far as my experience goes,if the VIIth > cvuspis the significator of I or VI or X or > XII...marriage may not take place,with the person in > question... > Hence your selecting XII as signifying a > foreigner may be correct,but is also fraught with > serious consequences...in my humble opinion... > If the sublord of VII signifies II,VII, & > XI,RPs of the Girl also are also the significators of > II,VII & XI...a very happy and harmonious married life > can be safely predicted with utmost confidence. > Yours sincerely, > lyrastro1 > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > Dear Sirs, > I am a learner of KP and following Chart is Quite > confusing me. I > need advice from the experienced friends. > > Female, DOB- 25-05-1977, Wednesday, Magha star; TOB- > 13:25; POB- > PANNA (M.P.); Lat-24N35, long- 80E13; > > > The 7th Cusp SL is Su owner of 1st and posited in 9th > . Su is in > Star of Mo owner of 12th posited in 12th and in the > Sub of Mo. Su is > Conj with Ju. Ju is 5-8-9. Thus Su signifies > 12-9-1-5-8. > > Does it mean that She will marry to a stranger, > foreigner or > involving long distance? and what else? > > Lagna is Leo. > > 2nd Cusp: - Occupant Ra no planet in the star of Ra. > Ra in the Sign > of Me (Gemini). Owner is Me. Ma, Ve, Sa, Ke are in the > star of Me. Me > is Owner of 2 & 11 posited in 8, Ma is owner of 4 & 9 > posited in 8, Ve is > Owner of 3 & 10 posited in 7, Ke is posited in 8 in the > sign of Ju, Sa > is owner of 6 & 7 posited in 11. Hence relation to 2,7 & > 11 is there. > > Thus Significator for 2nd are Sa-Ve-Ra-Ma-Me-Ke (Ra in > star of Ma and > Ke in Star of Me) > > 7th Cusp:- Occupant is Ve, Me in star of Ve. Owner is > Sa, no planet > in star of Sa. Me signifies 2 & 11, Ve signifies 7, Sa > signifies 7 & 11. > Hence relation to 2,7 & 11 is there. > > Thus Significators for 7th are Sa-Ve-Me. > > 11th Cusp:- Occupant Sa, Owner Me. Thus Significators > are Sa-Ve-Ma- > Me-Ke. > > Thus for 2,7,11 significator are Sa-Ra-Ma-Ve-Me-Ke and > also Su being > 7th SL. > > Date of Divination 10-10-2004, 19:07 at Jabalpur Lat > 23N10, long 79E58 > > Ruling Planet: Day lord Su, Lagna sign Ma- Lagna star > Ve- Lagna sub > Ra. Moon Sign Su, Moon star Ke, Moon Sub Sa. > > Thus RP's are Su, Ma, Ve, Ke, Sa > > Blending the RP and Significators the final list is > Su-Sa-Ma-Ve-Ke. > > Current DBA is Su-Ma-Ra As per KP ayanamsa in > Kundli2000 Softwere up > to 21-10-2004, then Ju antara up to 7-11-2004, Sa > antara up to 27-11- > 2004. > > As per my Analysis The marriage can take place in > Su-Ma-Sa period > when Su is transiting in Ma-Sa-Su. > > Is the analysis correct? Kindly point out mistakes. > > Expecting an early guidance. > > yours sincerely > > Mukesh > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Dear Richa I had a very quick look at your chart and noticed the followings: At the time of marriage on 11th Nov 2000, Mahadasa Lord = Rahu, Rahu signifies (1, 5, 7, 12) Rahu in Star(Mars) and Mars signifies (1,3,4,7,12) Rahu in Sign (Merc) and MErc signifies (2,4,1,6) Rahu is aspected by Sat, Sat signifies (4,2,9,10,11) Sat conjuct Sun and Sun signifies (2,3,4,5) Bhukti Lord = Merc, signifies (2,4,1,6) Antra Lord = Sun, signifies (2,3,4,5) because Lord of H(2) = MErc and Sun is in the Star(Merc) So I think Sun does play an important role here. I hope it helps Love Ravinder Grover - shiv_saturn789us Tuesday, October 12, 2004 2:57 PM Re: Marriage timing -Dear Sir Yogesh rao Lajmi,Namaskar. I am learning astrology and regarding time of marriage I have some question. please solve at your convienance...Sir My marriage happened in Rahu mahadasa Mercury subdasa and sun sub-sub dasa at 11/nov/2000.I want to ask that neither any house or planet's nakshatra or planet is connected with sun. So How we can give sequence for understanding marriage timming.My date of birth is 09/August/1977Place of birth is MoradabadTime of birth is 12:35 Night (A.M)(1)My Ascendant nakshatra lord is moon and sublord is Rahu(2)My 5th House nakshatra lord is moon and sublord is Rahu(3)My 7th house nakshatra lord is Saturn and sublord is Rahu(4)My 2nd House nakshatra lord is Rahu and sublord is Mercury(5)My 11th House nakshatra lord is Saturn and sublord is RahuIn Ascendant Moon and Mars(1)My Ascendant nakshatra lord is moon and sublord is Rahu(2)My Ascendant nakshatra lord is moon and sublord is RahuIn Second house Jupiter and Venus(1)My Jupiter's nakshatra lord is mars situted in 12th house and sublord is Venus situated in 2nd house.(2)My venus's nakshatra lord is Rahu situated in 5th house and sublord is Mercury situated in 4th house.In 5th house RahuRahu's nakshatra lord is Mars and sublord is rahu.(1)Ascendant lord is venus situated in 2nd house which nakshatra lord is rahu and sublord is Mercury.(2)2nd house lord is Mercury situated in 4th house which nakshatra lord is Venus and sublord is Rahu.(3)5th house lord is Mercury situated in 4th house which nakshatra lord is Venus and sublord is Rahu.(4)7th house lord is Mars situated in 12th house which nakshatra lord is Moon and sublord is Venus.(5)11th house lord is jupiter situated in 2nd House which nakshatra lord is Mars and sublord is venus.I want to ask that neither any house or planet's nakshatra or planet is connected with sun. So How we can give sequence for understanding marriage timming.Sir Please say me how we can find marriage time through K.P system With reference my marriage date...lot of thanxs and regards Richa-- In , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:> Dear Mukesh,> First of all check whether the birth-time> given is correct...> If the sub-lord of the Ascendant is the> Moon-star lord only then, is the horoscope cast at the> correct Birth-time,as per Astrosecrets & K.P.,(chapter> on "correct time of Birth")...> As far as my experience goes,if the VIIth> cvuspis the significator of I or VI or X or> XII...marriage may not take place,with the person in> question...> Hence your selecting XII as signifying a> foreigner may be correct,but is also fraught with> serious consequences...in my humble opinion...> If the sublord of VII signifies II,VII, & > XI,RPs of the Girl also are also the significators of> II,VII & XI...a very happy and harmonious married life> can be safely predicted with utmost confidence.> Yours sincerely,> lyrastro1> GOOD LUCK !> > > > Dear Sirs,> I am a learner of KP and following Chart is Quite> confusing me. I > need advice from the experienced friends.> > Female, DOB- 25-05-1977, Wednesday, Magha star; TOB-> 13:25; POB- > PANNA (M.P.); Lat-24N35, long- 80E13;> > > The 7th Cusp SL is Su owner of 1st and posited in 9th> . Su is in > Star of Mo owner of 12th posited in 12th and in the> Sub of Mo. Su is > Conj with Ju. Ju is 5-8-9. Thus Su signifies> 12-9-1-5-8. > > Does it mean that She will marry to a stranger,> foreigner or > involving long distance? and what else?> > Lagna is Leo.> > 2nd Cusp: - Occupant Ra no planet in the star of Ra.> Ra in the Sign > of Me (Gemini). Owner is Me. Ma, Ve, Sa, Ke are in the> star of Me. Me > is Owner of 2 & 11 posited in 8, Ma is owner of 4 & 9> posited in 8, Ve is > Owner of 3 & 10 posited in 7, Ke is posited in 8 in the> sign of Ju, Sa > is owner of 6 & 7 posited in 11. Hence relation to 2,7 & > 11 is there.> > Thus Significator for 2nd are Sa-Ve-Ra-Ma-Me-Ke (Ra in> star of Ma and > Ke in Star of Me)> > 7th Cusp:- Occupant is Ve, Me in star of Ve. Owner is> Sa, no planet > in star of Sa. Me signifies 2 & 11, Ve signifies 7, Sa> signifies 7 & 11. > Hence relation to 2,7 & 11 is there.> > Thus Significators for 7th are Sa-Ve-Me.> > 11th Cusp:- Occupant Sa, Owner Me. Thus Significators> are Sa-Ve-Ma-> Me-Ke.> > Thus for 2,7,11 significator are Sa-Ra-Ma-Ve-Me-Ke and> also Su being > 7th SL.> > Date of Divination 10-10-2004, 19:07 at Jabalpur Lat> 23N10, long 79E58> > Ruling Planet: Day lord Su, Lagna sign Ma- Lagna star> Ve- Lagna sub > Ra. Moon Sign Su, Moon star Ke, Moon Sub Sa.> > Thus RP's are Su, Ma, Ve, Ke, Sa > > Blending the RP and Significators the final list is> Su-Sa-Ma-Ve-Ke.> > Current DBA is Su-Ma-Ra As per KP ayanamsa in> Kundli2000 Softwere up > to 21-10-2004, then Ju antara up to 7-11-2004, Sa> antara up to 27-11-> 2004.> > As per my Analysis The marriage can take place in> Su-Ma-Sa period > when Su is transiting in Ma-Sa-Su.> > Is the analysis correct? Kindly point out mistakes.> > Expecting an early guidance.> > yours sincerely> > Mukesh> > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Dear Mukesh, I repeat, the birth-time is absolutely correct as per K.P., only if the sublord of the ascendant is the same as the STARLORD of the MOON...! Pl.,therefore correct the birth-time such that the sublord of the Asc. is the same as that star-lord of the Moon at birth...! ! No more discussion on this subject please... lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK ! > Dear Shri Lajmi ji, > Thanks for your valuable advice. Just for > clarification i want to submit that, the horo was > prepared by experienced KP Astrologer Sh. S. P. > Khullar, who has recently published a book " True > Astrology " . and he told that birth time is correct. > I will be greatful if you can cast horo at your end > and check it for correctness. She has done MCA and > presently she is in teaching profession. > waiting for a positve response, > yours sincerely, > > Mukesh > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: > Dear Mukesh, > First of all check whether the > birth-time > given is correct... > If the sub-lord of the Ascendant is the > Moon-star lord only then, is the horoscope cast at > the > correct Birth-time,as per Astrosecrets & > K.P.,(chapter > on " correct time of Birth " )... > As far as my experience goes,if the > VIIth > cvuspis the significator of I or VI or X or > XII...marriage may not take place,with the person in > question... > Hence your selecting XII as signifying a > foreigner may be correct,but is also fraught with > serious consequences...in my humble opinion... > If the sublord of VII signifies II,VII, & > XI,RPs of the Girl also are also the significators > of > II,VII & XI...a very happy and harmonious married > life > can be safely predicted with utmost confidence. > Yours sincerely, > lyrastro1 > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > Dear Sirs, > I am a learner of KP and following Chart is Quite > confusing me. I > need advice from the experienced friends. > > Female, DOB- 25-05-1977, Wednesday, Magha star; TOB- > 13:25; POB- > PANNA (M.P.); Lat-24N35, long- 80E13; > > > The 7th Cusp SL is Su owner of 1st and posited in > 9th > . Su is in > Star of Mo owner of 12th posited in 12th and in the > Sub of Mo. Su is > Conj with Ju. Ju is 5-8-9. Thus Su signifies > 12-9-1-5-8. > > Does it mean that She will marry to a stranger, > foreigner or > involving long distance? and what else? > > Lagna is Leo. > > 2nd Cusp: - Occupant Ra no planet in the star of Ra. > Ra in the Sign > of Me (Gemini). Owner is Me. Ma, Ve, Sa, Ke are in > the > star of Me. Me > is Owner of 2 & 11 posited in 8, Ma is owner of 4 & 9 > posited in 8, Ve is > Owner of 3 & 10 posited in 7, Ke is posited in 8 in > the > sign of Ju, Sa > is owner of 6 & 7 posited in 11. Hence relation to 2,7 > & > 11 is there. > > Thus Significator for 2nd are Sa-Ve-Ra-Ma-Me-Ke (Ra > in > star of Ma and > Ke in Star of Me) > > 7th Cusp:- Occupant is Ve, Me in star of Ve. Owner > is > Sa, no planet > in star of Sa. Me signifies 2 & 11, Ve signifies 7, Sa > signifies 7 & 11. > Hence relation to 2,7 & 11 is there. > > Thus Significators for 7th are Sa-Ve-Me. > > 11th Cusp:- Occupant Sa, Owner Me. Thus > Significators > are Sa-Ve-Ma- > Me-Ke. > > Thus for 2,7,11 significator are Sa-Ra-Ma-Ve-Me-Ke > and > also Su being > 7th SL. > > Date of Divination 10-10-2004, 19:07 at Jabalpur Lat > 23N10, long 79E58 > > Ruling Planet: Day lord Su, Lagna sign Ma- Lagna > star > Ve- Lagna sub > Ra. Moon Sign Su, Moon star Ke, Moon Sub Sa. > > Thus RP's are Su, Ma, Ve, Ke, Sa > > Blending the RP and Significators the final list is > Su-Sa-Ma-Ve-Ke. > > Current DBA is Su-Ma-Ra As per KP ayanamsa in > Kundli2000 Softwere up > to 21-10-2004, then Ju antara up to 7-11-2004, Sa > antara up to 27-11- > 2004. > > As per my Analysis The marriage can take place in > Su-Ma-Sa period > when Su is transiting in Ma-Sa-Su. > > Is the analysis correct? Kindly point out mistakes. > > Expecting an early guidance. > > yours sincerely > > Mukesh > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Dear Yogesh, Is this the technique that was recomended by K.S. Krishnamurti to correct birth-times? Please provide us with the proper reference to the book where he describes this method. Best Regards, Alexandro , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > Dear Mukesh, > I repeat, the birth-time is absolutely > correct as per K.P., only if the sublord of the > ascendant is the same as the STARLORD of the MOON...! > Pl.,therefore correct the birth-time such > that the sublord of the Asc. is the same as that > star-lord of the Moon at birth...! ! > No more discussion on this subject > please... > lyrastro1 > GOOD LUCK ! > > Dear Shri Lajmi ji, > > Thanks for your valuable advice. Just for > > clarification i want to submit that, the horo was > > prepared by experienced KP Astrologer Sh. S. P. > > Khullar, who has recently published a book " True > > Astrology " . and he told that birth time is correct. > > I will be greatful if you can cast horo at your end > > and check it for correctness. She has done MCA and > > presently she is in teaching profession. > > waiting for a positve response, > > yours sincerely, > > > > Mukesh > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > > Dear Mukesh, > > First of all check whether the > > birth-time > > given is correct... > > If the sub-lord of the Ascendant is the > > Moon-star lord only then, is the horoscope cast at > > the > > correct Birth-time,as per Astrosecrets & > > K.P.,(chapter > > on " correct time of Birth " )... > > As far as my experience goes,if the > > VIIth > > cvuspis the significator of I or VI or X or > > XII...marriage may not take place,with the person in > > question... > > Hence your selecting XII as signifying a > > foreigner may be correct,but is also fraught with > > serious consequences...in my humble opinion... > > If the sublord of VII signifies II,VII, & > > XI,RPs of the Girl also are also the significators > > of > > II,VII & XI...a very happy and harmonious married > > life > > can be safely predicted with utmost confidence. > > Yours sincerely, > > lyrastro1 > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > I am a learner of KP and following Chart is Quite > > confusing me. I > > need advice from the experienced friends. > > > > Female, DOB- 25-05-1977, Wednesday, Magha star; TOB- > > 13:25; POB- > > PANNA (M.P.); Lat-24N35, long- 80E13; > > > > > > The 7th Cusp SL is Su owner of 1st and posited in > > 9th > > . Su is in > > Star of Mo owner of 12th posited in 12th and in the > > Sub of Mo. Su is > > Conj with Ju. Ju is 5-8-9. Thus Su signifies > > 12-9-1-5-8. > > > > Does it mean that She will marry to a stranger, > > foreigner or > > involving long distance? and what else? > > > > Lagna is Leo. > > > > 2nd Cusp: - Occupant Ra no planet in the star of Ra. > > Ra in the Sign > > of Me (Gemini). Owner is Me. Ma, Ve, Sa, Ke are in > > the > > star of Me. Me > > is Owner of 2 & 11 posited in 8, Ma is owner of 4 & 9 > > posited in 8, Ve is > > Owner of 3 & 10 posited in 7, Ke is posited in 8 in > > the > > sign of Ju, Sa > > is owner of 6 & 7 posited in 11. Hence relation to 2,7 > > & > > 11 is there. > > > > Thus Significator for 2nd are Sa-Ve-Ra-Ma-Me-Ke (Ra > > in > > star of Ma and > > Ke in Star of Me) > > > > 7th Cusp:- Occupant is Ve, Me in star of Ve. Owner > > is > > Sa, no planet > > in star of Sa. Me signifies 2 & 11, Ve signifies 7, Sa > > signifies 7 & 11. > > Hence relation to 2,7 & 11 is there. > > > > Thus Significators for 7th are Sa-Ve-Me. > > > > 11th Cusp:- Occupant Sa, Owner Me. Thus > > Significators > > are Sa-Ve-Ma- > > Me-Ke. > > > > Thus for 2,7,11 significator are Sa-Ra-Ma-Ve-Me-Ke > > and > > also Su being > > 7th SL. > > > > Date of Divination 10-10-2004, 19:07 at Jabalpur Lat > > 23N10, long 79E58 > > > > Ruling Planet: Day lord Su, Lagna sign Ma- Lagna > > star > > Ve- Lagna sub > > Ra. Moon Sign Su, Moon star Ke, Moon Sub Sa. > > > > Thus RP's are Su, Ma, Ve, Ke, Sa > > > > Blending the RP and Significators the final list is > > Su-Sa-Ma-Ve-Ke. > > > > Current DBA is Su-Ma-Ra As per KP ayanamsa in > > Kundli2000 Softwere up > > to 21-10-2004, then Ju antara up to 7-11-2004, Sa > > antara up to 27-11- > > 2004. > > > > As per my Analysis The marriage can take place in > > Su-Ma-Sa period > > when Su is transiting in Ma-Sa-Su. > > > > Is the analysis correct? Kindly point out mistakes. > > > > Expecting an early guidance. > > > > yours sincerely > > > > Mukesh > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Dear alexandrodem, The book is " Astrosecrects & K.P. " , by K.Subramaniam,available in III parts...I have quoted from part two...there is a separate chapter : " Birth Time Verification " Pp 237-244. This book is a collectiobn of some reakky greatly helpfull " secrets of K.P.Analytical methods " . It is a must-buy book after you've read the six readers... Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK ! Dear Yogesh, Is this the technique that was recomended by K.S. Krishnamurti to correct birth-times? Please provide us with the proper reference to the book where he describes this method. Best Regards, Alexandro , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > Dear Mukesh, > I repeat, the birth-time is absolutely > correct as per K.P., only if the sublord of the > ascendant is the same as the STARLORD of the MOON...! > Pl.,therefore correct the birth-time such > that the sublord of the Asc. is the same as that > star-lord of the Moon at birth...! ! > No more discussion on this subject > please... > lyrastro1 > GOOD LUCK ! > > Dear Shri Lajmi ji, > > Thanks for your valuable advice. Just for > > clarification i want to submit that, the horo was > > prepared by experienced KP Astrologer Sh. S. P. > > Khullar, who has recently published a book " True > > Astrology " . and he told that birth time is correct. > > I will be greatful if you can cast horo at your end > > and check it for correctness. She has done MCA and > > presently she is in teaching profession. > > waiting for a positve response, > > yours sincerely, > > > > Mukesh > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > > Dear Mukesh, > > First of all check whether the > > birth-time > > given is correct... > > If the sub-lord of the Ascendant is the > > Moon-star lord only then, is the horoscope cast at > > the > > correct Birth-time,as per Astrosecrets & > > K.P.,(chapter > > on " correct time of Birth " )... > > As far as my experience goes,if the > > VIIth > > cvuspis the significator of I or VI or X or > > XII...marriage may not take place,with the person in > > question... > > Hence your selecting XII as signifying a > > foreigner may be correct,but is also fraught with > > serious consequences...in my humble opinion... > > If the sublord of VII signifies II,VII, & > > XI,RPs of the Girl also are also the significators > > of > > II,VII & XI...a very happy and harmonious married > > life > > can be safely predicted with utmost confidence. > > Yours sincerely, > > lyrastro1 > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > I am a learner of KP and following Chart is Quite > > confusing me. I > > need advice from the experienced friends. > > > > Female, DOB- 25-05-1977, Wednesday, Magha star; TOB- > > 13:25; POB- > > PANNA (M.P.); Lat-24N35, long- 80E13; > > > > > > The 7th Cusp SL is Su owner of 1st and posited in > > 9th > > . Su is in > > Star of Mo owner of 12th posited in 12th and in the > > Sub of Mo. Su is > > Conj with Ju. Ju is 5-8-9. Thus Su signifies > > 12-9-1-5-8. > > > > Does it mean that She will marry to a stranger, > > foreigner or > > involving long distance? and what else? > > > > Lagna is Leo. > > > > 2nd Cusp: - Occupant Ra no planet in the star of Ra. > > Ra in the Sign > > of Me (Gemini). Owner is Me. Ma, Ve, Sa, Ke are in > > the > > star of Me. Me > > is Owner of 2 & 11 posited in 8, Ma is owner of 4 & 9 > > posited in 8, Ve is > > Owner of 3 & 10 posited in 7, Ke is posited in 8 in > > the > > sign of Ju, Sa > > is owner of 6 & 7 posited in 11. Hence relation to 2,7 > > & > > 11 is there. > > > > Thus Significator for 2nd are Sa-Ve-Ra-Ma-Me-Ke (Ra > > in > > star of Ma and > > Ke in Star of Me) > > > > 7th Cusp:- Occupant is Ve, Me in star of Ve. Owner > > is > > Sa, no planet > > in star of Sa. Me signifies 2 & 11, Ve signifies 7, Sa > > signifies 7 & 11. > > Hence relation to 2,7 & 11 is there. > > > > Thus Significators for 7th are Sa-Ve-Me. > > > > 11th Cusp:- Occupant Sa, Owner Me. Thus > > Significators > > are Sa-Ve-Ma- > > Me-Ke. > > > > Thus for 2,7,11 significator are Sa-Ra-Ma-Ve-Me-Ke > > and > > also Su being > > 7th SL. > > > > Date of Divination 10-10-2004, 19:07 at Jabalpur Lat > > 23N10, long 79E58 > > > > Ruling Planet: Day lord Su, Lagna sign Ma- Lagna > > star > > Ve- Lagna sub > > Ra. Moon Sign Su, Moon star Ke, Moon Sub Sa. > > > > Thus RP's are Su, Ma, Ve, Ke, Sa > > > > Blending the RP and Significators the final list is > > Su-Sa-Ma-Ve-Ke. > > > > Current DBA is Su-Ma-Ra As per KP ayanamsa in > > Kundli2000 Softwere up > > to 21-10-2004, then Ju antara up to 7-11-2004, Sa > > antara up to 27-11- > > 2004. > > > > As per my Analysis The marriage can take place in > > Su-Ma-Sa period > > when Su is transiting in Ma-Sa-Su. > > > > Is the analysis correct? Kindly point out mistakes. > > > > Expecting an early guidance. > > > > yours sincerely > > > > Mukesh > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 12, 2004 So in all fairness, this technique is not KP, correct? I believe that the method taught by Krishnamurti utilized the Ruling Planets to determine the correct time of birth. That said, if we use this technique and it turns out the lagna sub is not the same as the moon star lord, then which method is correct, the one by K.S. Krishnamurti or the " new " one advocated by K. Subramaniam? Best Regards, Alexandro , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > Dear alexandrodem, > The book is " Astrosecrects & K.P. " , > by K.Subramaniam,available in III parts...I have > quoted from part two...there is a separate chapter : > " Birth Time Verification " Pp 237-244. > This book is a collectiobn of some > reakky greatly helpfull " secrets of K.P.Analytical > methods " . It is a must-buy book after you've read the > six readers... > Yours sincerely, > lyrastro1 > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > Dear Yogesh, > > Is this the technique that was recomended by K.S. > Krishnamurti to > correct birth-times? Please provide us with the proper > reference to > the book where he describes this method. > > Best Regards, > > Alexandro > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi > <lyrastro1> > wrote: > > Dear Mukesh, > > I repeat, the birth-time is absolutely > > correct as per K.P., only if the sublord of the > > ascendant is the same as the STARLORD of the > MOON...! > > Pl.,therefore correct the birth-time > such > > that the sublord of the Asc. is the same as that > > star-lord of the Moon at birth...! ! > > No more discussion on this subject > > please... > > lyrastro1 > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > Dear Shri Lajmi ji, > > > Thanks for your valuable advice. Just for > > > clarification i want to submit that, the horo was > > > prepared by experienced KP Astrologer Sh. S. P. > > > Khullar, who has recently published a book " True > > > Astrology " . and he told that birth time is > correct. > > > I will be greatful if you can cast horo at your > end > > > and check it for correctness. She has done MCA and > > > presently she is in teaching profession. > > > waiting for a positve response, > > > yours sincerely, > > > > > > Mukesh > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > > > Dear Mukesh, > > > First of all check whether the > > > birth-time > > > given is correct... > > > If the sub-lord of the Ascendant is > the > > > Moon-star lord only then, is the horoscope cast at > > > the > > > correct Birth-time,as per Astrosecrets & > > > K.P.,(chapter > > > on " correct time of Birth " )... > > > As far as my experience goes,if the > > > VIIth > > > cvuspis the significator of I or VI or X or > > > XII...marriage may not take place,with the person > in > > > question... > > > Hence your selecting XII as signifying > a > > > foreigner may be correct,but is also fraught with > > > serious consequences...in my humble opinion... > > > If the sublord of VII signifies > II,VII, & > > > XI,RPs of the Girl also are also the significators > > > of > > > II,VII & XI...a very happy and harmonious married > > > life > > > can be safely predicted with utmost confidence. > > > Yours sincerely, > > > lyrastro1 > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > I am a learner of KP and following Chart is Quite > > > confusing me. I > > > need advice from the experienced friends. > > > > > > Female, DOB- 25-05-1977, Wednesday, Magha star; > TOB- > > > 13:25; POB- > > > PANNA (M.P.); Lat-24N35, long- 80E13; > > > > > > > > > The 7th Cusp SL is Su owner of 1st and posited in > > > 9th > > > . Su is in > > > Star of Mo owner of 12th posited in 12th and in > the > > > Sub of Mo. Su is > > > Conj with Ju. Ju is 5-8-9. Thus Su signifies > > > 12-9-1-5-8. > > > > > > Does it mean that She will marry to a stranger, > > > foreigner or > > > involving long distance? and what else? > > > > > > Lagna is Leo. > > > > > > 2nd Cusp: - Occupant Ra no planet in the star of > Ra. > > > Ra in the Sign > > > of Me (Gemini). Owner is Me. Ma, Ve, Sa, Ke are in > > > the > > > star of Me. Me > > > is Owner of 2 & 11 posited in 8, Ma is owner of 4 & 9 > > > posited in 8, Ve is > > > Owner of 3 & 10 posited in 7, Ke is posited in 8 in > > > the > > > sign of Ju, Sa > > > is owner of 6 & 7 posited in 11. Hence relation to > 2,7 > > > & > > > 11 is there. > > > > > > Thus Significator for 2nd are Sa-Ve-Ra-Ma-Me-Ke > (Ra > > > in > > > star of Ma and > > > Ke in Star of Me) > > > > > > 7th Cusp:- Occupant is Ve, Me in star of Ve. > Owner > > > is > > > Sa, no planet > > > in star of Sa. Me signifies 2 & 11, Ve signifies 7, > Sa > > > signifies 7 & 11. > > > Hence relation to 2,7 & 11 is there. > > > > > > Thus Significators for 7th are Sa-Ve-Me. > > > > > > 11th Cusp:- Occupant Sa, Owner Me. Thus > > > Significators > > > are Sa-Ve-Ma- > > > Me-Ke. > > > > > > Thus for 2,7,11 significator are Sa-Ra-Ma-Ve-Me-Ke > > > and > > > also Su being > > > 7th SL. > > > > > > Date of Divination 10-10-2004, 19:07 at Jabalpur > Lat > > > 23N10, long 79E58 > > > > > > Ruling Planet: Day lord Su, Lagna sign Ma- Lagna > > > star > > > Ve- Lagna sub > > > Ra. Moon Sign Su, Moon star Ke, Moon Sub Sa. > > > > > > Thus RP's are Su, Ma, Ve, Ke, Sa > > > > > > Blending the RP and Significators the final list > is > > > Su-Sa-Ma-Ve-Ke. > > > > > > Current DBA is Su-Ma-Ra As per KP ayanamsa in > > > Kundli2000 Softwere up > > > to 21-10-2004, then Ju antara up to 7-11-2004, Sa > > > antara up to 27-11- > > > 2004. > > > > > > As per my Analysis The marriage can take place in > > > Su-Ma-Sa period > > > when Su is transiting in Ma-Sa-Su. > > > > > > Is the analysis correct? Kindly point out > mistakes. > > > > > > Expecting an early guidance. > > > > > > yours sincerely > > > > > > Mukesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Dear Alexandro, Pl. don't rush to conclusions so fast.! K.P., was invented by our guru the revered late Shri K.S.Krishnamurti...only around the '40s...eversince he had to first withstand and wage a very " war " against an organised strong challenge from the Traditional Astrology schools,who opposed his invention bitterly,and rubbished at every possible occassion and from every platform available... and had ganged-up against K.P.,and Krishnamurthiji... He successfully wirhstood the " rubbishing " by the traditional astrologers,and established a niche for K.P., in the world,as a unique and very accurate system...His discovery of the Ruling Planets crowned him with great success and he received adulations all over the world... However,K.P., is still evolving with the research being conducted by quite a few stalwarts,notably Prof. K.Balanchandran,Pt.K.R.Kar(famous for Kar's theory,of CMT,instant-predictions, DRPE,etc.,),A.R Raichur,Vaikari Ramamurthy,and KSK's illustrious sons K.Subramaniam,K.Hariharan,and many others... Newer, faster and more accurate methods are being discovered and " proven " before being published in the Magazine,K.P. & Astrology,an annual which is a must for every serious student of K.P. Like,for example,the new method as in the instant case,I had written to you about... Study K.P., thoroughly and you will master it and then STUN all your clients,friends,relatives and also your critics...with stunningly accurate predictions...! ! With best wishes,I am, Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK ! So in all fairness, this technique is not KP, correct? I believe that the method taught by Krishnamurti utilized the Ruling Planets to determine the correct time of birth. That said, if we use this technique and it turns out the lagna sub is not the same as the moon star lord, then which method is correct, the one by K.S. Krishnamurti or the " new " one advocated by K. Subramaniam? Best Regards, Alexandro , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > Dear alexandrodem, > The book is " Astrosecrects & K.P. " , > by K.Subramaniam,available in III parts...I have > quoted from part two...there is a separate chapter : > " Birth Time Verification " Pp 237-244. > This book is a collectiobn of some > reakky greatly helpfull " secrets of K.P.Analytical > methods " . It is a must-buy book after you've read the > six readers... > Yours sincerely, > lyrastro1 > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > Dear Yogesh, > > Is this the technique that was recomended by K.S. > Krishnamurti to > correct birth-times? Please provide us with the proper > reference to > the book where he describes this method. > > Best Regards, > > Alexandro > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi > <lyrastro1> > wrote: > > Dear Mukesh, > > I repeat, the birth-time is absolutely > > correct as per K.P., only if the sublord of the > > ascendant is the same as the STARLORD of the > MOON...! > > Pl.,therefore correct the birth-time > such > > that the sublord of the Asc. is the same as that > > star-lord of the Moon at birth...! ! > > No more discussion on this subject > > please... > > lyrastro1 > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > Dear Shri Lajmi ji, > > > Thanks for your valuable advice. Just for > > > clarification i want to submit that, the horo was > > > prepared by experienced KP Astrologer Sh. S. P. > > > Khullar, who has recently published a book " True > > > Astrology " . and he told that birth time is > correct. > > > I will be greatful if you can cast horo at your > end > > > and check it for correctness. She has done MCA and > > > presently she is in teaching profession. > > > waiting for a positve response, > > > yours sincerely, > > > > > > Mukesh > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > > > Dear Mukesh, > > > First of all check whether the > > > birth-time > > > given is correct... > > > If the sub-lord of the Ascendant is > the > > > Moon-star lord only then, is the horoscope cast at > > > the > > > correct Birth-time,as per Astrosecrets & > > > K.P.,(chapter > > > on " correct time of Birth " )... > > > As far as my experience goes,if the > > > VIIth > > > cvuspis the significator of I or VI or X or > > > XII...marriage may not take place,with the person > in > > > question... > > > Hence your selecting XII as signifying > a > > > foreigner may be correct,but is also fraught with > > > serious consequences...in my humble opinion... > > > If the sublord of VII signifies > II,VII, & > > > XI,RPs of the Girl also are also the significators > > > of > > > II,VII & XI...a very happy and harmonious married > > > life > > > can be safely predicted with utmost confidence. > > > Yours sincerely, > > > lyrastro1 > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > I am a learner of KP and following Chart is Quite > > > confusing me. I > > > need advice from the experienced friends. > > > > > > Female, DOB- 25-05-1977, Wednesday, Magha star; > TOB- > > > 13:25; POB- > > > PANNA (M.P.); Lat-24N35, long- 80E13; > > > > > > > > > The 7th Cusp SL is Su owner of 1st and posited in > > > 9th > > > . Su is in > > > Star of Mo owner of 12th posited in 12th and in > the > > > Sub of Mo. Su is > > > Conj with Ju. Ju is 5-8-9. Thus Su signifies > > > 12-9-1-5-8. > > > > > > Does it mean that She will marry to a stranger, > > > foreigner or > > > involving long distance? and what else? > > > > > > Lagna is Leo. > > > > > > 2nd Cusp: - Occupant Ra no planet in the star of > Ra. > > > Ra in the Sign > > > of Me (Gemini). Owner is Me. Ma, Ve, Sa, Ke are in > > > the > > > star of Me. Me > > > is Owner of 2 & 11 posited in 8, Ma is owner of 4 & 9 > > > posited in 8, Ve is > > > Owner of 3 & 10 posited in 7, Ke is posited in 8 in > > > the > > > sign of Ju, Sa > > > is owner of 6 & 7 posited in 11. Hence relation to > 2,7 > > > & > > > 11 is there. > > > > > > Thus Significator for 2nd are Sa-Ve-Ra-Ma-Me-Ke > (Ra > > > in > > > star of Ma and > > > Ke in Star of Me) > > > > > > 7th Cusp:- Occupant is Ve, Me in star of Ve. > Owner > > > is > > > Sa, no planet > > > in star of Sa. Me signifies 2 & 11, Ve signifies 7, > Sa > > > signifies 7 & 11. > > > Hence relation to 2,7 & 11 is there. > > > > > > Thus Significators for 7th are Sa-Ve-Me. > > > > > > 11th Cusp:- Occupant Sa, Owner Me. Thus > > > Significators > > > are Sa-Ve-Ma- > > > Me-Ke. > > > > > > Thus for 2,7,11 significator are Sa-Ra-Ma-Ve-Me-Ke > > > and > > > also Su being > > > 7th SL. > > > > > > Date of Divination 10-10-2004, 19:07 at Jabalpur > Lat > > > 23N10, long 79E58 > > > > > > Ruling Planet: Day lord Su, Lagna sign Ma- Lagna > > > star > > > Ve- Lagna sub > > > Ra. Moon Sign Su, Moon star Ke, Moon Sub Sa. > > > > > > Thus RP's are Su, Ma, Ve, Ke, Sa > > > > > > Blending the RP and Significators the final list > is > > > Su-Sa-Ma-Ve-Ke. > > > > > > Current DBA is Su-Ma-Ra As per KP ayanamsa in > > > Kundli2000 Softwere up > > > to 21-10-2004, then Ju antara up to 7-11-2004, Sa > > > antara up to 27-11- > > > 2004. > > > > > > As per my Analysis The marriage can take place in > > > Su-Ma-Sa period > > > when Su is transiting in Ma-Sa-Su. > > > > > > Is the analysis correct? Kindly point out > mistakes. > > > > > > Expecting an early guidance. > > > > > > yours sincerely > > > > > > Mukesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Very well. However, you have refused to consider a chart that was rectified by a KP astrologer on the grounds that it was not rectified according to a method that is an ADDITION to KP, and not original KP. You have also not answered my question, that if this newer method conflicts with the results obtained by the original method, are we to ignore Krisnamurti's teaching? I agree that research must be made and is useful. However, I cannot do research on Vimshottari Dasa of 375 days duration and then say that it is Parashari System! If we, as astrologers, are not careful then I fear that within 100 years people will be doing the " 57 step theory " and saying that it is KP. According to the founder of this science, this method is as close to perfection as possible. If we add to this, is this not a deviation from perfection. If not, then you must concede that the original KP is imperfect and that it may be improved upon. Even now, we do not know what was written by K.S. Krishnamurti and what was not. For example, the 6th reader (Horary Astrology) was written by AT LEAST 2 persons. There is even a case that is analised based on a number between 1 and 108! When Krishnamurti's son " edited " the book, he did not bother to tell us who wrote what, and put it all together and sold it as a book by Krishnamurti. It is claimed that KP is scientific. But this is no way to do science. Best Regards, Alexandro , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > Dear Alexandro, > Pl. don't rush to conclusions so fast.! > K.P., was invented by our guru the > revered late Shri K.S.Krishnamurti...only around the > '40s...eversince he had to first withstand and wage a > very " war " against an organised strong challenge from > the Traditional Astrology schools,who opposed his > invention bitterly,and rubbished at every possible > occassion and from every platform available... > and had ganged-up against K.P.,and Krishnamurthiji... > He successfully wirhstood the > " rubbishing " by the traditional astrologers,and > established a niche for K.P., in the world,as a unique > and very accurate system...His discovery of the Ruling > Planets crowned him with great success and he received > adulations all over the world... > However,K.P., is still evolving with > the research being conducted by quite a few > stalwarts,notably Prof. > K.Balanchandran,Pt.K.R.Kar(famous for Kar's theory,of > CMT,instant-predictions, > DRPE,etc.,),A.R Raichur,Vaikari Ramamurthy,and KSK's > illustrious sons K.Subramaniam,K.Hariharan,and many > others... > Newer, faster and more accurate methods > are being discovered and " proven " before being > published in the Magazine,K.P. & Astrology,an annual > which is a must for every serious student of K.P. > Like,for example,the new method as in > the instant case,I had written to you about... > Study K.P., thoroughly and you will > master it and then STUN all your > clients,friends,relatives and also your critics...with > stunningly accurate predictions...! ! > With best wishes,I am, > Yours sincerely, > lyrastro1 > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > So in all fairness, this technique is not KP, correct? > I believe that > the method taught by Krishnamurti utilized the Ruling > Planets to > determine the correct time of birth. That said, if we > use this > technique and it turns out the lagna sub is not the > same as the moon > star lord, then which method is correct, the one by > K.S. Krishnamurti > or the " new " one advocated by K. Subramaniam? > > Best Regards, > > Alexandro > > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi > <lyrastro1> > wrote: > > Dear alexandrodem, > > The book is " Astrosecrects & > K.P. " , > > by K.Subramaniam,available in III parts...I have > > quoted from part two...there is a separate chapter : > > " Birth Time Verification " Pp 237-244. > > This book is a collectiobn of some > > reakky greatly helpfull " secrets of K.P.Analytical > > methods " . It is a must-buy book after you've read > the > > six readers... > > Yours sincerely, > > lyrastro1 > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > Dear Yogesh, > > > > Is this the technique that was recomended by K.S. > > Krishnamurti to > > correct birth-times? Please provide us with the > proper > > reference to > > the book where he describes this method. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Alexandro > > > > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > <lyrastro1> > > wrote: > > > Dear Mukesh, > > > I repeat, the birth-time is absolutely > > > correct as per K.P., only if the sublord of the > > > ascendant is the same as the STARLORD of the > > MOON...! > > > Pl.,therefore correct the birth-time > > such > > > that the sublord of the Asc. is the same as that > > > star-lord of the Moon at birth...! ! > > > No more discussion on this subject > > > please... > > > lyrastro1 > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > Dear Shri Lajmi ji, > > > > Thanks for your valuable advice. Just for > > > > clarification i want to submit that, the horo > was > > > > prepared by experienced KP Astrologer Sh. S. P. > > > > Khullar, who has recently published a book " > True > > > > Astrology " . and he told that birth time is > > correct. > > > > I will be greatful if you can cast horo at your > > end > > > > and check it for correctness. She has done MCA > and > > > > presently she is in teaching profession. > > > > waiting for a positve response, > > > > yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > Mukesh > > > > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > > > > Dear Mukesh, > > > > First of all check whether the > > > > birth-time > > > > given is correct... > > > > If the sub-lord of the Ascendant is > > the > > > > Moon-star lord only then, is the horoscope cast > at > > > > the > > > > correct Birth-time,as per Astrosecrets & > > > > K.P.,(chapter > > > > on " correct time of Birth " )... > > > > As far as my experience goes,if the > > > > VIIth > > > > cvuspis the significator of I or VI or X or > > > > XII...marriage may not take place,with the > person > > in > > > > question... > > > > Hence your selecting XII as > signifying > > a > > > > foreigner may be correct,but is also fraught > with > > > > serious consequences...in my humble opinion... > > > > If the sublord of VII signifies > > II,VII, & > > > > XI,RPs of the Girl also are also the > significators > > > > of > > > > II,VII & XI...a very happy and harmonious > married > > > > life > > > > can be safely predicted with utmost confidence. > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > lyrastro1 > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > I am a learner of KP and following Chart is > Quite > > > > confusing me. I > > > > need advice from the experienced friends. > > > > > > > > Female, DOB- 25-05-1977, Wednesday, Magha star; > > TOB- > > > > 13:25; POB- > > > > PANNA (M.P.); Lat-24N35, long- 80E13; > > > > > > > > > > > > The 7th Cusp SL is Su owner of 1st and posited > in > > > > 9th > > > > . Su is in > > > > Star of Mo owner of 12th posited in 12th and in > > the > > > > Sub of Mo. Su is > > > > Conj with Ju. Ju is 5-8-9. Thus Su signifies > > > > 12-9-1-5-8. > > > > > > > > Does it mean that She will marry to a stranger, > > > > foreigner or > > > > involving long distance? and what else? > > > > > > > > Lagna is Leo. > > > > > > > > 2nd Cusp: - Occupant Ra no planet in the star of > > Ra. > > > > Ra in the Sign > > > > of Me (Gemini). Owner is Me. Ma, Ve, Sa, Ke are > in > > > > the > > > > star of Me. Me > > > > is Owner of 2 & 11 posited in 8, Ma is owner of > 4 & 9 > > > > posited in 8, Ve is > > > > Owner of 3 & 10 posited in 7, Ke is posited in 8 > in > > > > the > > > > sign of Ju, Sa > > > > is owner of 6 & 7 posited in 11. Hence relation to > > 2,7 > > > > & > > > > 11 is there. > > > > > > > > Thus Significator for 2nd are Sa-Ve-Ra-Ma-Me-Ke > > (Ra > > > > in > > > > star of Ma and > > > > Ke in Star of Me) > > > > > > > > 7th Cusp:- Occupant is Ve, Me in star of Ve. > > Owner > > > > is > > > > Sa, no planet > > > > in star of Sa. Me signifies 2 & 11, Ve signifies > 7, > > Sa > > > > signifies 7 & 11. > > > > Hence relation to 2,7 & 11 is there. > > > > > > > > Thus Significators for 7th are Sa-Ve-Me. > > > > > > > > 11th Cusp:- Occupant Sa, Owner Me. Thus > > > > Significators > > > > are Sa-Ve-Ma- > > > > Me-Ke. > > > > > > > > Thus for 2,7,11 significator are > Sa-Ra-Ma-Ve-Me-Ke > > > > and > > > > also Su being > > > > 7th SL. > > > > > > > > Date of Divination 10-10-2004, 19:07 at Jabalpur > > Lat > > > > 23N10, long 79E58 > > > > > > > > Ruling Planet: Day lord Su, Lagna sign Ma- Lagna > > > > star > > > > Ve- Lagna sub > > > > Ra. Moon Sign Su, Moon star Ke, Moon Sub Sa. > > > > > > > > Thus RP's are Su, Ma, Ve, Ke, Sa > > > > > > > > Blending the RP and Significators the final list > > is > > > > Su-Sa-Ma-Ve-Ke. > > > > > > > > Current DBA is Su-Ma-Ra As per KP ayanamsa in > > > > Kundli2000 Softwere up > > > > to 21-10-2004, then Ju antara up to 7-11-2004, > Sa > > > > antara up to 27-11- > > > > 2004. > > > > > > > > As per my Analysis The marriage can take place > in > > > > Su-Ma-Sa period > > > > when Su is transiting in Ma-Sa-Su. > > > > > > > > Is the analysis correct? Kindly point out > > mistakes. > > > > > > > > Expecting an early guidance. > > > > > > > > yours sincerely > > > > > > > > Mukesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 12, 2004 > However,K.P., is still evolving with > the research being conducted by quite a few > stalwarts,notably Prof. > K.Balanchandran,Pt.K.R.Kar(famous for Kar's theory,of > CMT,instant-predictions, > DRPE,etc.,),A.R Raichur,Vaikari Ramamurthy,and KSK's > illustrious sons K.Subramaniam,K.Hariharan,and many > others... Can you point me to where I can find this research? Particularly that of K.R. Kar. Also tell me where I can get 'KP & Astrology'. Thank you and best regards, Alexandro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 13, 2004 Dear Alexander, Your mail seems to be on a fairly hostile note... I wonder why...there is no need for it...at all. The whole problem arises because you are MIXING UP Parasari system with K.P System... Do you have K.P. software,if not I strongly suggest that you get hold of one...use K.P. Software,and K.P. ayanamsa and K.P. Nirayana Ephemeris...(the Software-Mr.Raichur's-is valid for 100years...) his e-mail in India is : <a.r.raichur Perhaps you are aware that over 6-7 different ayanamsa values are used all over India...the closest ayanamsa value,to that of KP ayanamsa, is Lahiri's... K.P.Ayanamsa is based on the computer calculated value of the rate of precession of the Equinoxes,by Newcomb...hence considered to be most accurate...This has been proven by Krishnamurthi and his students umpteen number of times...even in the US and UK...You may try it out by using the horary method to check up on minor events,which can be predicted to the nearest minute...like when will the peon return from the bank etc...when will my friend/wife/son return home ? etc ...only to satisfy yourself of the correctness of the ayanamsa value... I can say with great confidence,born out of my vast experience,that you will be STUNNED at the correctness of your prediction and thus confirm the correctness of the ayanamsa... In Parasara Light,I understand that there is provision for KP Ayanamsa,or you can add KP New Ayanamsa into the programme ? For your benefit I give below the K.P. ayanamsas for recent years : 2004 23d-49m-36s 2005 23d-50m-26s 2006 23d-51m-17s 2007 23d-52m-07s ... For the year 1977 DOB under discussion the K.P. Ayanamsa is 23d-26m-59s... I suggest you please use K.P.Ayanamsa and K.P.System only,for checking veracity of birth-time etc...and also as suggested above...and test the exactness of the ayanamsa...this is the only and the most covincing method...I know of...which will put ALL your doubts to rest...! In India it is a usual practice to depend upon the Birth Time recorded by the 'Dai " in attendance during delivery...whereas the correct time of Birth is at the time of the FIRST CRY of the baby... That is the prime reason I depend upon Horary Astrology for getting the most accurate results... Experiment as suggested above and do reply... With the very best wishes,I am, Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK ! Very well. However, you have refused to consider a chart that was rectified by a KP astrologer on the grounds that it was not rectified according to a method that is an ADDITION to KP, and not original KP. You have also not answered my question, that if this newer method conflicts with the results obtained by the original method, are we to ignore Krisnamurti's teaching? I agree that research must be made and is useful. However, I cannot do research on Vimshottari Dasa of 375 days duration and then say that it is Parashari System! If we, as astrologers, are not careful then I fear that within 100 years people will be doing the " 57 step theory " and saying that it is KP. According to the founder of this science, this method is as close to perfection as possible. If we add to this, is this not a deviation from perfection. If not, then you must concede that the original KP is imperfect and that it may be improved upon. Even now, we do not know what was written by K.S. Krishnamurti and what was not. For example, the 6th reader (Horary Astrology) was written by AT LEAST 2 persons. There is even a case that is analised based on a number between 1 and 108! When Krishnamurti's son " edited " the book, he did not bother to tell us who wrote what, and put it all together and sold it as a book by Krishnamurti. It is claimed that KP is scientific. But this is no way to do science. Best Regards, Alexandro , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > Dear Alexandro, > Pl. don't rush to conclusions so fast.! > K.P., was invented by our guru the > revered late Shri K.S.Krishnamurti...only around the > '40s...eversince he had to first withstand and wage a > very " war " against an organised strong challenge from > the Traditional Astrology schools,who opposed his > invention bitterly,and rubbished at every possible > occassion and from every platform available... > and had ganged-up against K.P.,and Krishnamurthiji... > He successfully wirhstood the > " rubbishing " by the traditional astrologers,and > established a niche for K.P., in the world,as a unique > and very accurate system...His discovery of the Ruling > Planets crowned him with great success and he received > adulations all over the world... > However,K.P., is still evolving with > the research being conducted by quite a few > stalwarts,notably Prof. > K.Balanchandran,Pt.K.R.Kar(famous for Kar's theory,of > CMT,instant-predictions, > DRPE,etc.,),A.R Raichur,Vaikari Ramamurthy,and KSK's > illustrious sons K.Subramaniam,K.Hariharan,and many > others... > Newer, faster and more accurate methods > are being discovered and " proven " before being > published in the Magazine,K.P. & Astrology,an annual > which is a must for every serious student of K.P. > Like,for example,the new method as in > the instant case,I had written to you about... > Study K.P., thoroughly and you will > master it and then STUN all your > clients,friends,relatives and also your critics...with > stunningly accurate predictions...! ! > With best wishes,I am, > Yours sincerely, > lyrastro1 > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > So in all fairness, this technique is not KP, correct? > I believe that > the method taught by Krishnamurti utilized the Ruling > Planets to > determine the correct time of birth. That said, if we > use this > technique and it turns out the lagna sub is not the > same as the moon > star lord, then which method is correct, the one by > K.S. Krishnamurti > or the " new " one advocated by K. Subramaniam? > > Best Regards, > > Alexandro > > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi > <lyrastro1> > wrote: > > Dear alexandrodem, > > The book is " Astrosecrects & > K.P. " , > > by K.Subramaniam,available in III parts...I have > > quoted from part two...there is a separate chapter : > > " Birth Time Verification " Pp 237-244. > > This book is a collectiobn of some > > reakky greatly helpfull " secrets of K.P.Analytical > > methods " . It is a must-buy book after you've read > the > > six readers... > > Yours sincerely, > > lyrastro1 > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > Dear Yogesh, > > > > Is this the technique that was recomended by K.S. > > Krishnamurti to > > correct birth-times? Please provide us with the > proper > > reference to > > the book where he describes this method. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Alexandro > > > > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > <lyrastro1> > > wrote: > > > Dear Mukesh, > > > I repeat, the birth-time is absolutely > > > correct as per K.P., only if the sublord of the > > > ascendant is the same as the STARLORD of the > > MOON...! > > > Pl.,therefore correct the birth-time > > such > > > that the sublord of the Asc. is the same as that > > > star-lord of the Moon at birth...! ! > > > No more discussion on this subject > > > please... > > > lyrastro1 > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > Dear Shri Lajmi ji, > > > > Thanks for your valuable advice. Just for > > > > clarification i want to submit that, the horo > was > > > > prepared by experienced KP Astrologer Sh. S. P. > > > > Khullar, who has recently published a book " > True > > > > Astrology " . and he told that birth time is > > correct. > > > > I will be greatful if you can cast horo at your > > end > > > > and check it for correctness. She has done MCA > and > > > > presently she is in teaching profession. > > > > waiting for a positve response, > > > > yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > Mukesh > > > > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > > > > Dear Mukesh, > > > > First of all check whether the > > > > birth-time > > > > given is correct... > > > > If the sub-lord of the Ascendant is > > the > > > > Moon-star lord only then, is the horoscope cast > at > > > > the > > > > correct Birth-time,as per Astrosecrets & > > > > K.P.,(chapter > > > > on " correct time of Birth " )... > > > > As far as my experience goes,if the > > > > VIIth > > > > cvuspis the significator of I or VI or X or > > > > XII...marriage may not take place,with the > person > > in > > > > question... > > > > Hence your selecting XII as > signifying > > a > > > > foreigner may be correct,but is also fraught > with > > > > serious consequences...in my humble opinion... > > > > If the sublord of VII signifies > > II,VII, & > > > > XI,RPs of the Girl also are also the > significators > > > > of > > > > II,VII & XI...a very happy and harmonious > married > > > > life > > > > can be safely predicted with utmost confidence. > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > lyrastro1 > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > I am a learner of KP and following Chart is > Quite > > > > confusing me. I > > > > need advice from the experienced friends. > > > > > > > > Female, DOB- 25-05-1977, Wednesday, Magha star; > > TOB- > > > > 13:25; POB- > > > > PANNA (M.P.); Lat-24N35, long- 80E13; > > > > > > > > > > > > The 7th Cusp SL is Su owner of 1st and posited > in > > > > 9th > > > > . Su is in > > > > Star of Mo owner of 12th posited in 12th and in > > the > > > > Sub of Mo. Su is > > > > Conj with Ju. Ju is 5-8-9. Thus Su signifies > > > > 12-9-1-5-8. > > > > > > > > Does it mean that She will marry to a stranger, > > > > foreigner or > > > > involving long distance? and what else? > > > > > > > > Lagna is Leo. > > > > > > > > 2nd Cusp: - Occupant Ra no planet in the star of > > Ra. > > > > Ra in the Sign > > > > of Me (Gemini). Owner is Me. Ma, Ve, Sa, Ke are > in > > > > the > > > > star of Me. Me > > > > is Owner of 2 & 11 posited in 8, Ma is owner of > 4 & 9 > > > > posited in 8, Ve is > > > > Owner of 3 & 10 posited in 7, Ke is posited in 8 > in > > > > the > > > > sign of Ju, Sa > > > > is owner of 6 & 7 posited in 11. Hence relation to > > 2,7 > > > > & > > > > 11 is there. > > > > > > > > Thus Significator for 2nd are Sa-Ve-Ra-Ma-Me-Ke > > (Ra > > > > in > > > > star of Ma and > > > > Ke in Star of Me) > > > > > > > > 7th Cusp:- Occupant is Ve, Me in star of Ve. > > Owner > > > > is > > > > Sa, no planet > > > > in star of Sa. Me signifies 2 & 11, Ve signifies > 7, > > Sa > > > > signifies 7 & 11. > > > > Hence relation to 2,7 & 11 is there. > > > > > > > > Thus Significators for 7th are Sa-Ve-Me. > > > > > > > > 11th Cusp:- Occupant Sa, Owner Me. Thus > > > > Significators > > > > are Sa-Ve-Ma- > > > > Me-Ke. > > > > > > > > Thus for 2,7,11 significator are > Sa-Ra-Ma-Ve-Me-Ke > > > > and > > > > also Su being > > > > 7th SL. > > > > > > > > Date of Divination 10-10-2004, 19:07 at Jabalpur > > Lat > > > > 23N10, long 79E58 > > > > > > > > Ruling Planet: Day lord Su, Lagna sign Ma- Lagna > > > > star > > > > Ve- Lagna sub > > > > Ra. Moon Sign Su, Moon star Ke, Moon Sub Sa. > > > > > > > > Thus RP's are Su, Ma, Ve, Ke, Sa > > > > > > > > Blending the RP and Significators the final list > > is > > > > Su-Sa-Ma-Ve-Ke. > > > > > > > > Current DBA is Su-Ma-Ra As per KP ayanamsa in > > > > Kundli2000 Softwere up > > > > to 21-10-2004, then Ju antara up to 7-11-2004, > Sa > > > > antara up to 27-11- > > > > 2004. > > > > > > > > As per my Analysis The marriage can take place > in > > > > Su-Ma-Sa period > > > > when Su is transiting in Ma-Sa-Su. > > > > > > > > Is the analysis correct? Kindly point out > > mistakes. > > > > > > > > Expecting an early guidance. > > > > > > > > yours sincerely > > > > > > > > Mukesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 13, 2004 Dear Alexander, Pt.Kar has been writing in K.P. & Astrology,since 1954... Beginning the 1956 Annual Issue of K.P and Astrology,you will find all the articles on sub-sub etc., in almost every annual thereafter... All these " back-issues " are available on demand from Hariman Booksellers,(whose proprietor is shri K Subramaniam s/o KSK.),804,Mount Road,opp.LIC Bldg.,CHENNAI- 600 002... (e-mail ID : krishnan ; k_subramaniam ; k_subramaniam ) If you asre in the US...do inform,I will send you the US adress...and e-mail ID... Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK ! > However,K.P., is still evolving with > the research being conducted by quite a few > stalwarts,notably Prof. > K.Balanchandran,Pt.K.R.Kar(famous for Kar's theory,of > CMT,instant-predictions, > DRPE,etc.,),A.R Raichur,Vaikari Ramamurthy,and KSK's > illustrious sons K.Subramaniam,K.Hariharan,and many > others... Can you point me to where I can find this research? Particularly that of K.R. Kar. Also tell me where I can get 'KP & Astrology'. Thank you and best regards, Alexandro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 13, 2004 > Dear Alexander, > Your mail seems to be on a fairly > hostile note... I wonder why...there is no need for > it...at all. My point exactly. See your message at the begining of this discussion, which seems hostile to me. > The whole problem arises because you > are MIXING UP Parasari system with K.P System... No, I am not. If you read my message carefully you will see that in no way do I mix Parashari and KP. I mentioned Parashari only as an (extreme) example of what some astrologers do to KP. See my message below. > Do you have K.P. software,if not I > strongly suggest that you get hold of one...use K.P. > Software,and K.P. ayanamsa and K.P. Nirayana > Ephemeris...(the Software-Mr.Raichur's-is valid for > 100years...) his e-mail in India is : > <a.r.raichur@i...> I mailed Mr. Raichur but I failed to get an answer. I am interested in his software, as it is recomended by many. According to the method you use to rectify the TOB, I did so on my birth data and came up with a birth time 22 minutes later than that recorded. This is VERY unlikely. It is expected to have a 5 minute discrepancy, but in this day and age 22 minutes is a huge difference. It would require nurses or the doctor or the hospital to have a clock that is grossly inaccuate, or not working at all. In fact it is easier to have a difference of an hour, because of changes in the time zone and it's calculation. For further reference about this, see message 1114 of this group. Best Regards, Alexandro > > > Very well. However, you have refused to consider a > chart that was > rectified by a KP astrologer on the grounds that it > was not rectified > according to a method that is an ADDITION to KP, and > not original KP. > You have also not answered my question, that if this > newer method > conflicts with the results obtained by the original > method, are we to > ignore Krisnamurti's teaching? > > I agree that research must be made and is useful. > However, I cannot > do research on Vimshottari Dasa of 375 days duration > and then say > that it is Parashari System! If we, as astrologers, > are not careful > then I fear that within 100 years people will be doing > the " 57 step > theory " and saying that it is KP. According to the > founder of this > science, this method is as close to perfection as > possible. If we add > to this, is this not a deviation from perfection. If > not, then you > must concede that the original KP is imperfect and > that it may be > improved upon. > > > Even now, we do not know what was written by K.S. > Krishnamurti and > what was not. For example, the 6th reader (Horary > Astrology) was > written by AT LEAST 2 persons. There is even a case > that is analised > based on a number between 1 and 108! When > Krishnamurti's son " edited " > the book, he did not bother to tell us who wrote what, > and put it all > together and sold it as a book by Krishnamurti. It is > claimed that KP > is scientific. But this is no way to do science. > > Best Regards, > > Alexandro > > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi > <lyrastro1> > wrote: > > Dear Alexandro, > > Pl. don't rush to conclusions so > fast.! > > K.P., was invented by our guru the > > revered late Shri K.S.Krishnamurti...only around the > > '40s...eversince he had to first withstand and wage > a > > very " war " against an organised strong challenge > from > > the Traditional Astrology schools,who opposed his > > invention bitterly,and rubbished at every possible > > occassion and from every platform available... > > and had ganged-up against K.P.,and > Krishnamurthiji... > > He successfully wirhstood the > > " rubbishing " by the traditional astrologers,and > > established a niche for K.P., in the world,as a > unique > > and very accurate system...His discovery of the > Ruling > > Planets crowned him with great success and he > received > > adulations all over the world... > > However,K.P., is still evolving with > > the research being conducted by quite a few > > stalwarts,notably Prof. > > K.Balanchandran,Pt.K.R.Kar(famous for Kar's > theory,of > > CMT,instant-predictions, > > DRPE,etc.,),A.R Raichur,Vaikari Ramamurthy,and KSK's > > illustrious sons K.Subramaniam,K.Hariharan,and many > > others... > > Newer, faster and more accurate > methods > > are being discovered and " proven " before being > > published in the Magazine,K.P. & Astrology,an annual > > which is a must for every serious student of K.P. > > Like,for example,the new method as in > > the instant case,I had written to you about... > > Study K.P., thoroughly and you will > > master it and then STUN all your > > clients,friends,relatives and also your > critics...with > > stunningly accurate predictions...! ! > > With best wishes,I am, > > Yours sincerely, > > lyrastro1 > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > So in all fairness, this technique is not KP, > correct? > > I believe that > > the method taught by Krishnamurti utilized the > Ruling > > Planets to > > determine the correct time of birth. That said, if > we > > use this > > technique and it turns out the lagna sub is not the > > same as the moon > > star lord, then which method is correct, the one by > > K.S. Krishnamurti > > or the " new " one advocated by K. Subramaniam? > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Alexandro > > > > > > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > <lyrastro1> > > wrote: > > > Dear alexandrodem, > > > The book is " Astrosecrects & > > K.P. " , > > > by K.Subramaniam,available in III parts...I have > > > quoted from part two...there is a separate chapter > : > > > " Birth Time Verification " Pp 237-244. > > > This book is a collectiobn of > some > > > reakky greatly helpfull " secrets of K.P.Analytical > > > methods " . It is a must-buy book after you've read > > the > > > six readers... > > > Yours sincerely, > > > lyrastro1 > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Yogesh, > > > > > > Is this the technique that was recomended by K.S. > > > Krishnamurti to > > > correct birth-times? Please provide us with the > > proper > > > reference to > > > the book where he describes this method. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Alexandro > > > > > > > > > , Yogesh Rao > Lajmi > > > <lyrastro1> > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Mukesh, > > > > I repeat, the birth-time is > absolutely > > > > correct as per K.P., only if the sublord of the > > > > ascendant is the same as the STARLORD of the > > > MOON...! > > > > Pl.,therefore correct the birth-time > > > such > > > > that the sublord of the Asc. is the same as that > > > > star-lord of the Moon at birth...! ! > > > > No more discussion on this subject > > > > please... > > > > lyrastro1 > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > Dear Shri Lajmi ji, > > > > > Thanks for your valuable advice. Just for > > > > > clarification i want to submit that, the horo > > was > > > > > prepared by experienced KP Astrologer Sh. S. > P. > > > > > Khullar, who has recently published a book " > > True > > > > > Astrology " . and he told that birth time is > > > correct. > > > > > I will be greatful if you can cast horo at > your > > > end > > > > > and check it for correctness. She has done MCA > > and > > > > > presently she is in teaching profession. > > > > > waiting for a positve response, > > > > > yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > Mukesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > > > > > Dear Mukesh, > > > > > First of all check whether the > > > > > birth-time > > > > > given is correct... > > > > > If the sub-lord of the Ascendant > is > > > the > > > > > Moon-star lord only then, is the horoscope > cast > > at > > > > > the > > > > > correct Birth-time,as per Astrosecrets & > > > > > K.P.,(chapter > > > > > on " correct time of Birth " )... > > > > > As far as my experience goes,if > the > > > > > VIIth > > > > > cvuspis the significator of I or VI or X or > > > > > XII...marriage may not take place,with the > > person > > > in > > > > > question... > > > > > Hence your selecting XII as > > signifying > > > a > > > > > foreigner may be correct,but is also fraught > > with > > > > > serious consequences...in my humble opinion... > > > > > If the sublord of VII signifies > > > II,VII, & > > > > > XI,RPs of the Girl also are also the > > significators > > > > > of > > > > > II,VII & XI...a very happy and harmonious > > married > > > > > life > > > > > can be safely predicted with utmost > confidence. > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > lyrastro1 > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > > I am a learner of KP and following Chart is > > Quite > > > > > confusing me. I > > > > > need advice from the experienced friends. > > > > > > > > > > Female, DOB- 25-05-1977, Wednesday, Magha > star; > > > TOB- > > > > > 13:25; POB- > > > > > PANNA (M.P.); Lat-24N35, long- 80E13; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 7th Cusp SL is Su owner of 1st and > posited > > in > > > > > 9th > > > > > . Su is in > > > > > Star of Mo owner of 12th posited in 12th and > in > > > the > > > > > Sub of Mo. Su is > > > > > Conj with Ju. Ju is 5-8-9. Thus Su signifies > > > > > 12-9-1-5-8. > > > > > > > > > > Does it mean that She will marry to a > stranger, > > > > > foreigner or > > > > > involving long distance? and what else? > > > > > > > > > > Lagna is Leo. > > > > > > > > > > 2nd Cusp: - Occupant Ra no planet in the star > of > > > Ra. > > > > > Ra in the Sign > > > > > of Me (Gemini). Owner is Me. Ma, Ve, Sa, Ke > are > > in > > > > > the > > > > > star of Me. Me > > > > > is Owner of 2 & 11 posited in 8, Ma is owner of > > 4 & 9 > > > > > posited in 8, Ve is > > > > > Owner of 3 & 10 posited in 7, Ke is posited in 8 > > in > > > > > the > > > > > sign of Ju, Sa > > > > > is owner of 6 & 7 posited in 11. Hence relation > to > > > 2,7 > > > > > & > > > > > 11 is there. > > > > > > > > > > Thus Significator for 2nd are > Sa-Ve-Ra-Ma-Me-Ke > > > (Ra > > > > > in > > > > > star of Ma and > > > > > Ke in Star of Me) > > > > > > > > > > 7th Cusp:- Occupant is Ve, Me in star of Ve. > > > Owner > > > > > is > > > > > Sa, no planet > > > > > in star of Sa. Me signifies 2 & 11, Ve signifies > > 7, > > > Sa > > > > > signifies 7 & 11. > > > > > Hence relation to 2,7 & 11 is there. > > > > > > > > > > Thus Significators for 7th are Sa-Ve-Me. > > > > > > > > > > 11th Cusp:- Occupant Sa, Owner Me. Thus > > > > > Significators > > > > > are Sa-Ve-Ma- > > > > > Me-Ke. > > > > > > > > > > Thus for 2,7,11 significator are > > Sa-Ra-Ma-Ve-Me-Ke > > > > > and > > > > > also Su being > > > > > 7th SL. > > > > > > > > > > Date of Divination 10-10-2004, 19:07 at > Jabalpur > > > Lat > > > > > 23N10, long 79E58 > > > > > > > > > > Ruling Planet: Day lord Su, Lagna sign Ma- > Lagna > > > > > star > > > > > Ve- Lagna sub > > > > > Ra. Moon Sign Su, Moon star Ke, Moon Sub Sa. > > > > > > > > > > Thus RP's are Su, Ma, Ve, Ke, Sa > > > > > > > > > > Blending the RP and Significators the final > list > > > is > > > > > Su-Sa-Ma-Ve-Ke. > > > > > > > > > > Current DBA is Su-Ma-Ra As per KP ayanamsa in > > > > > Kundli2000 Softwere up > > > > > to 21-10-2004, then Ju antara up to 7-11-2004, > > Sa > > > > > antara up to 27-11- > > > > > 2004. > > > > > > > > > > As per my Analysis The marriage can take place > > in > > > > > Su-Ma-Sa period > > > > > when Su is transiting in Ma-Sa-Su. > > > > > > > > > > Is the analysis correct? Kindly point out > > > mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > Expecting an early guidance. > > > > > > > > > > yours sincerely > > > > > > > > > > Mukesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 13, 2004 Thank you for the info. Yes, I do live in the US. , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > Dear Alexander, > Pt.Kar has been writing in K.P. & > Astrology,since 1954... > Beginning the 1956 Annual Issue of K.P > and Astrology,you will find all the articles on > sub-sub etc., in almost every annual thereafter... > All these " back-issues " are available > on demand from Hariman Booksellers,(whose proprietor > is shri K Subramaniam s/o KSK.),804,Mount Road,opp.LIC > Bldg.,CHENNAI- 600 002... > (e-mail ID : krishnan@m... ; > k_subramaniam ; > k_subramaniam@h... ) > If you asre in the US...do inform,I > will send you the US adress...and e-mail ID... > Yours sincerely, > lyrastro1 > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > However,K.P., is still evolving with > > the research being conducted by quite a few > > stalwarts,notably Prof. > > K.Balanchandran,Pt.K.R.Kar(famous for Kar's > theory,of > > CMT,instant-predictions, > > DRPE,etc.,),A.R Raichur,Vaikari Ramamurthy,and KSK's > > illustrious sons K.Subramaniam,K.Hariharan,and many > > others... > > Can you point me to where I can find this research? > Particularly that > of K.R. Kar. Also tell me where I can get 'KP & > Astrology'. > > Thank you and best regards, > > Alexandro > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 13, 2004 Dear Alex, I have recently corrected a birthtime of a client in New Delhi to time differing by 21 minutes... It all depends upon the Local Time,the clock-time at the nursing home etc...after correcting the birth time as per K.P., pl. also veryfy easily verifiable " landmarks " like time of passing SSC,Graduation,time of getting first job.change of job/s...and other such events...using RPs to confirm... The correct TOB as per K.P.,is as per K.P.,but always,as in any scientific literature, only the latest edition/explanation is valid... I have sent you an exhaustive catalogue of ALL K.P. books,available from the publisher,in Chennai,Sothida Mamani K.Subramaniam,s/o KSK... By the way I have Mr.Raichur's MUMBAI-phone number,I just spoke to him...2506 2609,and I just got his mail ...his ID is : <a.r.raichur <anant_1608 With best wishes... yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK > Dear Alexander, > Your mail seems to be on a fairly > hostile note... I wonder why...there is no need for > it...at all. My point exactly. See your message at the begining of this discussion, which seems hostile to me. > The whole problem arises because you > are MIXING UP Parasari system with K.P System... No, I am not. If you read my message carefully you will see that in no way do I mix Parashari and KP. I mentioned Parashari only as an (extreme) example of what some astrologers do to KP. See my message below. > Do you have K.P. software,if not I > strongly suggest that you get hold of one...use K.P. > Software,and K.P. ayanamsa and K.P. Nirayana > Ephemeris...(the Software-Mr.Raichur's-is valid for > 100years...) his e-mail in India is : > <a.r.raichur@i...> I mailed Mr. Raichur but I failed to get an answer. I am interested in his software, as it is recomended by many. According to the method you use to rectify the TOB, I did so on my birth data and came up with a birth time 22 minutes later than that recorded. This is VERY unlikely. It is expected to have a 5 minute discrepancy, but in this day and age 22 minutes is a huge difference. It would require nurses or the doctor or the hospital to have a clock that is grossly inaccuate, or not working at all. In fact it is easier to have a difference of an hour, because of changes in the time zone and it's calculation. For further reference about this, see message 1114 of this group. Best Regards, Alexandro > > > Very well. However, you have refused to consider a > chart that was > rectified by a KP astrologer on the grounds that it > was not rectified > according to a method that is an ADDITION to KP, and > not original KP. > You have also not answered my question, that if this > newer method > conflicts with the results obtained by the original > method, are we to > ignore Krisnamurti's teaching? > > I agree that research must be made and is useful. > However, I cannot > do research on Vimshottari Dasa of 375 days duration > and then say > that it is Parashari System! If we, as astrologers, > are not careful > then I fear that within 100 years people will be doing > the " 57 step > theory " and saying that it is KP. According to the > founder of this > science, this method is as close to perfection as > possible. If we add > to this, is this not a deviation from perfection. If > not, then you > must concede that the original KP is imperfect and > that it may be > improved upon. > > > Even now, we do not know what was written by K.S. > Krishnamurti and > what was not. For example, the 6th reader (Horary > Astrology) was > written by AT LEAST 2 persons. There is even a case > that is analised > based on a number between 1 and 108! When > Krishnamurti's son " edited " > the book, he did not bother to tell us who wrote what, > and put it all > together and sold it as a book by Krishnamurti. It is > claimed that KP > is scientific. But this is no way to do science. > > Best Regards, > > Alexandro > > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi > <lyrastro1> > wrote: > > Dear Alexandro, > > Pl. don't rush to conclusions so > fast.! > > K.P., was invented by our guru the > > revered late Shri K.S.Krishnamurti...only around the > > '40s...eversince he had to first withstand and wage > a > > very " war " against an organised strong challenge > from > > the Traditional Astrology schools,who opposed his > > invention bitterly,and rubbished at every possible > > occassion and from every platform available... > > and had ganged-up against K.P.,and > Krishnamurthiji... > > He successfully wirhstood the > > " rubbishing " by the traditional astrologers,and > > established a niche for K.P., in the world,as a > unique > > and very accurate system...His discovery of the > Ruling > > Planets crowned him with great success and he > received > > adulations all over the world... > > However,K.P., is still evolving with > > the research being conducted by quite a few > > stalwarts,notably Prof. > > K.Balanchandran,Pt.K.R.Kar(famous for Kar's > theory,of > > CMT,instant-predictions, > > DRPE,etc.,),A.R Raichur,Vaikari Ramamurthy,and KSK's > > illustrious sons K.Subramaniam,K.Hariharan,and many > > others... > > Newer, faster and more accurate > methods > > are being discovered and " proven " before being > > published in the Magazine,K.P. & Astrology,an annual > > which is a must for every serious student of K.P. > > Like,for example,the new method as in > > the instant case,I had written to you about... > > Study K.P., thoroughly and you will > > master it and then STUN all your > > clients,friends,relatives and also your > critics...with > > stunningly accurate predictions...! ! > > With best wishes,I am, > > Yours sincerely, > > lyrastro1 > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > So in all fairness, this technique is not KP, > correct? > > I believe that > > the method taught by Krishnamurti utilized the > Ruling > > Planets to > > determine the correct time of birth. That said, if > we > > use this > > technique and it turns out the lagna sub is not the > > same as the moon > > star lord, then which method is correct, the one by > > K.S. Krishnamurti > > or the " new " one advocated by K. Subramaniam? > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Alexandro > > > > > > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > <lyrastro1> > > wrote: > > > Dear alexandrodem, > > > The book is " Astrosecrects & > > K.P. " , > > > by K.Subramaniam,available in III parts...I have > > > quoted from part two...there is a separate chapter > : > > > " Birth Time Verification " Pp 237-244. > > > This book is a collectiobn of > some > > > reakky greatly helpfull " secrets of K.P.Analytical > > > methods " . It is a must-buy book after you've read > > the > > > six readers... > > > Yours sincerely, > > > lyrastro1 > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Yogesh, > > > > > > Is this the technique that was recomended by K.S. > > > Krishnamurti to > > > correct birth-times? Please provide us with the > > proper > > > reference to > > > the book where he describes this method. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Alexandro > > > > > > > > > , Yogesh Rao > Lajmi > > > <lyrastro1> > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Mukesh, > > > > I repeat, the birth-time is > absolutely > > > > correct as per K.P., only if the sublord of the > > > > ascendant is the same as the STARLORD of the > > > MOON...! > > > > Pl.,therefore correct the birth-time > > > such > > > > that the sublord of the Asc. is the same as that > > > > star-lord of the Moon at birth...! ! > > > > No more discussion on this subject > > > > please... > > > > lyrastro1 > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > Dear Shri Lajmi ji, > > > > > Thanks for your valuable advice. Just for > > > > > clarification i want to submit that, the horo > > was > > > > > prepared by experienced KP Astrologer Sh. S. > P. > > > > > Khullar, who has recently published a book " > > True > > > > > Astrology " . and he told that birth time is > > > correct. > > > > > I will be greatful if you can cast horo at > your > > > end > > > > > and check it for correctness. She has done MCA > > and > > > > > presently she is in teaching profession. > > > > > waiting for a positve response, > > > > > yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > Mukesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > > > > > Dear Mukesh, > > > > > First of all check whether the > > > > > birth-time > > > > > given is correct... > > > > > If the sub-lord of the Ascendant > is > > > the > > > > > Moon-star lord only then, is the horoscope > cast > > at > > > > > the > > > > > correct Birth-time,as per Astrosecrets & > > > > > K.P.,(chapter > > > > > on " correct time of Birth " )... > > > > > As far as my experience goes,if > the > > > > > VIIth > > > > > cvuspis the significator of I or VI or X or > > > > > XII...marriage may not take place,with the > > person > > > in > > > > > question... > > > > > Hence your selecting XII as > > signifying > > > a > > > > > foreigner may be correct,but is also fraught > > with > > > > > serious consequences...in my humble opinion... > > > > > If the sublord of VII signifies > > > II,VII, & > > > > > XI,RPs of the Girl also are also the > > significators > > > > > of > > > > > II,VII & XI...a very happy and harmonious > > married > > > > > life > > > > > can be safely predicted with utmost > confidence. > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > lyrastro1 > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > > I am a learner of KP and following Chart is > > Quite > > > > > confusing me. I > > > > > need advice from the experienced friends. > > > > > > > > > > Female, DOB- 25-05-1977, Wednesday, Magha > star; > > > TOB- > > > > > 13:25; POB- > > > > > PANNA (M.P.); Lat-24N35, long- 80E13; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 7th Cusp SL is Su owner of 1st and > posited > > in > > > > > 9th > > > > > . Su is in > > > > > Star of Mo owner of 12th posited in 12th and > in > > > the > > > > > Sub of Mo. Su is > > > > > Conj with Ju. Ju is 5-8-9. Thus Su signifies > > > > > 12-9-1-5-8. > > > > > > > > > > Does it mean that She will marry to a > stranger, > > > > > foreigner or > > > > > involving long distance? and what else? > > > > > > > > > > Lagna is Leo. > > > > > > > > > > 2nd Cusp: - Occupant Ra no planet in the star > of > > > Ra. > > > > > Ra in the Sign > > > > > of Me (Gemini). Owner is Me. Ma, Ve, Sa, Ke > are > > in > > > > > the > > > > > star of Me. Me > > > > > is Owner of 2 & 11 posited in 8, Ma is owner of > > 4 & 9 > > > > > posited in 8, Ve is > > > > > Owner of 3 & 10 posited in 7, Ke is posited in 8 > > in > > > > > the > > > > > sign of Ju, Sa > > > > > is owner of 6 & 7 posited in 11. Hence relation > to > > > 2,7 > > > > > & > > > > > 11 is there. > > > > > > > > > > Thus Significator for 2nd are > Sa-Ve-Ra-Ma-Me-Ke > > > (Ra > > > > > in > > > > > star of Ma and > > > > > Ke in Star of Me) > > > > > > > > > > 7th Cusp:- Occupant is Ve, Me in star of Ve. > > > Owner > > > > > is > > > > > Sa, no planet > > > > > in star of Sa. Me signifies 2 & 11, Ve signifies > > 7, > > > Sa > > > > > signifies 7 & 11. > > > > > Hence relation to 2,7 & 11 is there. > > > > > > > > > > Thus Significators for 7th are Sa-Ve-Me. > > > > > > > > > > 11th Cusp:- Occupant Sa, Owner Me. Thus > > > > > Significators > > > > > are Sa-Ve-Ma- > > > > > Me-Ke. > > > > > > > > > > Thus for 2,7,11 significator are > > Sa-Ra-Ma-Ve-Me-Ke > > > > > and > > > > > also Su being > > > > > 7th SL. > > > > > > > > > > Date of Divination 10-10-2004, 19:07 at > Jabalpur > > > Lat > > > > > 23N10, long 79E58 > > > > > > > > > > Ruling Planet: Day lord Su, Lagna sign Ma- > Lagna > > > > > star > > > > > Ve- Lagna sub > > > > > Ra. Moon Sign Su, Moon star Ke, Moon Sub Sa. > > > > > > > > > > Thus RP's are Su, Ma, Ve, Ke, Sa > > > > > > > > > > Blending the RP and Significators the final > list > > > is > > > > > Su-Sa-Ma-Ve-Ke. > > > > > > > > > > Current DBA is Su-Ma-Ra As per KP ayanamsa in > > > > > Kundli2000 Softwere up > > > > > to 21-10-2004, then Ju antara up to 7-11-2004, > > Sa > > > > > antara up to 27-11- > > > > > 2004. > > > > > > > > > > As per my Analysis The marriage can take place > > in > > > > > Su-Ma-Sa period > > > > > when Su is transiting in Ma-Sa-Su. > > > > > > > > > > Is the analysis correct? Kindly point out > > > mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > Expecting an early guidance. > > > > > > > > > > yours sincerely > > > > > > > > > > Mukesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 13, 2004 Dear Alex, Pl.visit the site : www.astroamerica.com/v-krish3.html You will get all details of K.P.Books,their US prices, and how to get them etc... With best wishes, lyrastro1 Thank you for the info. Yes, I do live in the US. , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > Dear Alexander, > Pt.Kar has been writing in K.P. & > Astrology,since 1954... > Beginning the 1956 Annual Issue of K.P > and Astrology,you will find all the articles on > sub-sub etc., in almost every annual thereafter... > All these " back-issues " are available > on demand from Hariman Booksellers,(whose proprietor > is shri K Subramaniam s/o KSK.),804,Mount Road,opp.LIC > Bldg.,CHENNAI- 600 002... > (e-mail ID : krishnan@m... ; > k_subramaniam ; > k_subramaniam@h... ) > If you asre in the US...do inform,I > will send you the US adress...and e-mail ID... > Yours sincerely, > lyrastro1 > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > However,K.P., is still evolving with > > the research being conducted by quite a few > > stalwarts,notably Prof. > > K.Balanchandran,Pt.K.R.Kar(famous for Kar's > theory,of > > CMT,instant-predictions, > > DRPE,etc.,),A.R Raichur,Vaikari Ramamurthy,and KSK's > > illustrious sons K.Subramaniam,K.Hariharan,and many > > others... > > Can you point me to where I can find this research? > Particularly that > of K.R. Kar. Also tell me where I can get 'KP & > Astrology'. > > Thank you and best regards, > > Alexandro > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 14, 2004 Dear Mukesh, 1. Assuming that the TOB is correct for the chart u mentioned. 2. The 7 sl= sun does not sig either of 2/7/11 houses reqd for the marriage,it is a very weak sig .Hence the possibility is remote.B'cos of the 5th connection there is a possibility of some sort of affection/attraction ,not necessarily resulting in the marriage. 3. The present DBA sun/mar/ also do not sig the reqd houses directly. 4. It is unlikely the event might take place Col Ranade --- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Mukesh, First of all check whether the birth-time given is correct... If the sub-lord of the Ascendant is the Moon-star lord only then, is the horoscope cast at the correct Birth-time,as per Astrosecrets & K.P.,(chapter on " correct time of Birth " )... As far as my experience goes,if the VIIth cvuspis the significator of I or VI or X or XII...marriage may not take place,with the person in question... Hence your selecting XII as signifying a foreigner may be correct,but is also fraught with serious consequences...in my humble opinion... If the sublord of VII signifies II,VII, & XI,RPs of the Girl also are also the significators of II,VII & XI...a very happy and harmonious married life can be safely predicted with utmost confidence. Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK ! Dear Sirs, I am a learner of KP and following Chart is Quite confusing me. I need advice from the experienced friends. Female, DOB- 25-05-1977, Wednesday, Magha star; TOB- 13:25; POB- PANNA (M.P.); Lat-24N35, long- 80E13; The 7th Cusp SL is Su owner of 1st and posited in 9th .. Su is in Star of Mo owner of 12th posited in 12th and in the Sub of Mo. Su is Conj with Ju. Ju is 5-8-9. Thus Su signifies 12-9-1-5-8. Does it mean that She will marry to a stranger, foreigner or involving long distance? and what else? Lagna is Leo. 2nd Cusp: - Occupant Ra no planet in the star of Ra. Ra in the Sign of Me (Gemini). Owner is Me. Ma, Ve, Sa, Ke are in the star of Me. Me is Owner of 2 & 11 posited in 8, Ma is owner of 4 & 9 posited in 8, Ve is Owner of 3 & 10 posited in 7, Ke is posited in 8 in the sign of Ju, Sa is owner of 6 & 7 posited in 11. Hence relation to 2,7 & 11 is there. Thus Significator for 2nd are Sa-Ve-Ra-Ma-Me-Ke (Ra in star of Ma and Ke in Star of Me) 7th Cusp:- Occupant is Ve, Me in star of Ve. Owner is Sa, no planet in star of Sa. Me signifies 2 & 11, Ve signifies 7, Sa signifies 7 & 11. Hence relation to 2,7 & 11 is there. Thus Significators for 7th are Sa-Ve-Me. 11th Cusp:- Occupant Sa, Owner Me. Thus Significators are Sa-Ve-Ma- Me-Ke. Thus for 2,7,11 significator are Sa-Ra-Ma-Ve-Me-Ke and also Su being 7th SL. Date of Divination 10-10-2004, 19:07 at Jabalpur Lat 23N10, long 79E58 Ruling Planet: Day lord Su, Lagna sign Ma- Lagna star Ve- Lagna sub Ra. Moon Sign Su, Moon star Ke, Moon Sub Sa. Thus RP's are Su, Ma, Ve, Ke, Sa Blending the RP and Significators the final list is Su-Sa-Ma-Ve-Ke. Current DBA is Su-Ma-Ra As per KP ayanamsa in Kundli2000 Softwere up to 21-10-2004, then Ju antara up to 7-11-2004, Sa antara up to 27-11- 2004. As per my Analysis The marriage can take place in Su-Ma-Sa period when Su is transiting in Ma-Sa-Su. Is the analysis correct? Kindly point out mistakes. Expecting an early guidance. yours sincerely Mukesh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 14, 2006 Sreeram, You shoud find out from this girl whether she had any history of cancellation of betrothal or marriage. Pls notice these points ----Ven, the 7L of spouse as well as Karaka for conjugal bliss in 9H, identical with its inimical sign Cancer ; the badhak place (Obstruction !) for Scorpio Ascendant and is in an exact degree square with Saturn in Fall. -----Ven, the 7L ,in mutual opposition to badkadhipathi Moon -----Saturn, the 3L of betrothal, from it debilitation sign aspects Moon, the sign dispositor of 7L Venus, placed in 3H of engagement , causing the famous "Punarphoo Yoga "(A Repeated Action ! ) Madhu N Nair sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote: Software Used : Jhora Version 7.02DOB: July 11, 1968, Hyderabad, India - 3:17 PM.Query : Is there a promise of Marriage or denial ??Lagna : Scorpio3H : Moon5H : Rahu6H : Saturn Debilitated8H : Mars, Mercury, Sun9H : Venus10H : Jupiter11H : KetuBalance of Dasha ( Vimshottari ): Moon - 8 years approx. Mars - 7 years Rahu - 18 years Currently running Jupiter - Mercury period.Negative PointsLL is 8H, In Moon Chart LL is debilitated, In D9, LL in 3H inimical sign, Venus Chart LL in 7H inimical sign.Debilitated Saturn is vargottam ( D-1 & D9 )Moon is severly afflicted - by Mars, Debilitated Saturn, Moon in Saturn sign ( Capricon ). Hence, mother of this native must have had horrowing time !! How did I conclude ?? 4HL also indicates Mother, here it is saturn and debilitated. First minus point. But the 4H is aspected by Jupiter. How can saturn is ok. However, the natural karaka for Mother, i.e. Mother is seriously afflicted as stated above. Hence, it has to be native's mother !!7HL & 12HL in 9H = as we are discussing marriage - indicates "dosha" 4HL is afflicted for its Lord Saturn is debilitated.8H is afflicted by 6HL Mars12H is also afflicted by Debilitated SaturnThe native has received dasha pattern which has NO relation to the 7HL and Jupiter is NOT aspected by any other planet. Hence, the delay in Marriage. But it is getting exalted in D-9 with Venus. Hence, there is a "Ray of Hope". Moon ( Mind ) is vey much inclined to marriage. Moon is dharma & Venus is here Kama Lord. Both are aspecting each other. Venus is also 12HL. See the conflict of mind !!The native is "likely" to get married in this Jupiter's Mahadasha. However, with the advent of Saturn's Mahadasha, the troubles start for her. Her 8H is severly afflicted and hence, even should she get married, in all probability her married life is not long say - 10-12 years. Hence, it is advisable for her to get her husband insured for a "large sum" with proper documentation - ( check & recheck ) atleast she stands to gain in long run !! Though very very "mean advice" - cannot help giving this - Note: In the Moon chart, the 2HL is debilitated - Bank Balance is nil !!! In Sun chart, 2HL Moon aspects its own house from 8H !!!Saturn - Mercury period is fatal to her would be husband.Further, 2HL & 5HL Jupiter is in 10H ( Leo Sign ). The native is involved in a profession attributed to Jupiter - i.e. education, teaching in a government institution possibly involving post graduate or research studies - a strong possibility.I have not considered here the D-9 & D-10 positions. All the predictions are said through use of D-1, Moon & Venus Charts.I would invite the supporters of the logic " Debilitated Planet ( Saturn ) in birth charts becoming Vargottam " as seen in this case would ACT like a exalted planet to present their comments taking this particular case as the native would love to hear counter arguments - for she is likely to undergo the same after 10-12 years and provide "validated" results" I would request the native to validate the forecast given in here, by responding to the mail with cc to my e-mail id i..e. sreeram64 with the same fervour as the question was put !!!! with regards, sreeram srinivas, New Delhi sreeram64 Cell : 098682-31817 notify [notify ] On Behalf Of k_mayagSunday, May 14, 2006 3:20 AMsreeram srinivasMarriage TimingDear Sreeram Ji, Is there any hope of marriage in this chart (it is mine). How/Where will I meet the spouse. Thank you.Mayavedic astrology , "sreeram srinivas"<sreeram64 wrote:>> get in touch with Mr. Kishore Patnaik 09849270729 ( hyderabad cell no. )> > with regards,> sreeram sriniavs>> _____>> vedic astrology > [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Ofgoodgirllakshmi> Saturday, May 13, 2006 2:53 PM> vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Advice pls>>> Dear Memebers> I need your help,i want to if any good astrologer available in Hyderabad.One of friend is in hyderabad so if astro guru can help me.> regards> Lakshmi.K>> Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 16, 2006 You opinion & comments are appreciated. I could not infer what is the conclusion that you intend me draw (refer your analysis ) !! Can you elaborate a bit - for clarity - so that I understand them in proper perspective. While awaiting your comments, I reserve my comments till then. Should you think that this issue need not be discussed on the forum, then write to me offline / privately. Between Us: I did consider the D-1 & D-9 positions, while delineating the horoscope. I might have not spent the "normal time" - for reasons of my own office work & other constraints. Quote "I would invite the supporters of the logic " Debilitated Planet ( Saturn ) in birth charts becoming Vargottam " as seen in this case would ACT like aexalted planet to present their comments taking this particular case as the native would love to hear counter arguments - for she is likely to undergothe same after 10-12 years and provide "validated" results " Unquote with regards sreeram srinivas sreeram64 vedic astrology [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of P KumarMonday, May 15, 2006 1:03 AMvedic astrology Subject: Re: [vedic astrology] Marriage Timing Dear Sreeram,In my opinion, you need exercise restraint. For marriage, Rasi and Navamsa are most important. Have you seen both ? Does it justify remaining unmarried at 38 (badly delayed for an Indian female). See 7th lord of Rasi in 9th and 7th lord of Navamsa exalted in 11th aspecting the 7th. Does it justify the things ? Then see that Navamsa is changing within 12 seconds. What should be the apprehension here ? Then why this hasty conclusion and why this frustrating advice ? Be careful always before advising anyone to go for insurance. Always try to see some silver lining and try to boost the morale of the native without ignoring the astrological facts. In this case situation becomes clear only if we consider Leo Navamsa and if we remember that Venus-Moon syndrome is important for negating marriage. See Venus-Moon mutual aspect here.P.Kumar (Mumbai)- "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64; <vedic astrology >; <Vedic Astrology-Hyderabad >; "'k_mayag'" <k_mayagCc: "kishore patnaik" <kishorepatnaik09; "Sunil John" <suniljohn_2002Sunday, May 14, 2006 2:34 PM[vedic astrology] Marriage TimingSoftware Used : Jhora Version 7.02DOB: July 11, 1968, Hyderabad, India - 3:17 PM.Query : Is there a promise of Marriage or denial ??Lagna : Scorpio3H : Moon5H : Rahu6H : Saturn Debilitated8H : Mars, Mercury, Sun9H : Venus10H : Jupiter11H : KetuBalance of Dasha ( Vimshottari ): Moon - 8 years approx. Mars - 7 years Rahu - 18 years Currently running Jupiter - Mercury period.Negative PointsLL is 8H, In Moon Chart LL is debilitated, In D9, LL in 3H inimical sign,Venus Chart LL in 7H inimical sign.Debilitated Saturn is vargottam ( D-1 & D9 )Moon is severly afflicted - by Mars, Debilitated Saturn, Moon in Saturnsign ( Capricon ). Hence, mother of this native must have had horrowingtime !! How did I conclude ?? 4HL also indicates Mother, here it is saturnand debilitated. First minus point. But the 4H is aspected by Jupiter. Howcan saturn is ok. However, the natural karaka for Mother, i.e. Mother isseriously afflicted as stated above. Hence, it has to be native's mother !!7HL & 12HL in 9H = as we are discussing marriage - indicates "dosha" 4HL is afflicted for its Lord Saturn is debilitated.8H is afflicted by 6HL Mars12H is also afflicted by Debilitated SaturnThe native has received dasha pattern which has NO relation to the 7HL andJupiter is NOT aspected by any other planet. Hence, the delay in Marriage.But it is getting exalted in D-9 with Venus. Hence, there is a "Ray ofHope". Moon ( Mind ) is vey much inclined to marriage. Moon is dharma & Venus is here Kama Lord. Both are aspecting each other. Venus is also12HL. See the conflict of mind !!The native is "likely" to get married in this Jupiter's Mahadasha. However,with the advent of Saturn's Mahadasha, the troubles start for her. Her 8His severly afflicted and hence, even should she get married, in allprobability her married life is not long say - 10-12 years. Hence, it isadvisable for her to get her husband insured for a "large sum" with properdocumentation - ( check & recheck ) atleast she stands to gain in long run!! Though very very "mean advice" - cannot help giving this - Note: In theMoon chart, the 2HL is debilitated - Bank Balance is nil !!! In Sun chart,2HL Moon aspects its own house from 8H !!!Saturn - Mercury period is fatal to her would be husband.Further, 2HL & 5HL Jupiter is in 10H ( Leo Sign ). The native isinvolved in a profession attributed to Jupiter - i.e. education, teaching ina government institution possibly involving post graduate or researchstudies - a strong possibility.I have not considered here the D-9 & D-10 positions. All the predictionsare said through use of D-1, Moon & Venus Charts.I would invite the supporters of the logic " Debilitated Planet ( Saturn )in birth charts becoming Vargottam " as seen in this case would ACT like aexalted planet to present their comments taking this particular case as thenative would love to hear counter arguments - for she is likely to undergothe same after 10-12 years and provide "validated" results"I would request the native to validate the forecast given in here, byresponding to the mail with cc to my e-mail id i..e.sreeram64 with the same fervour as the question was put !!!!with regards,sreeram srinivas, New Delhisreeram64Cell : 098682-31817notify [ <notify >notify ] On Behalf Of k_mayagSunday, May 14, 2006 3:20 AMsreeram srinivasMarriage TimingDear Sreeram Ji, Is there any hope of marriage in this chart (it is mine). How/Wherewill I meet the spouse. Thank you.Mayavedic astrology , "sreeram srinivas"<sreeram64 wrote:>> get in touch with Mr. Kishore Patnaik 09849270729 ( hyderabad cell no. )> > with regards,> sreeram sriniavs>> _____>> vedic astrology > [ <vedic astrology >vedic astrology ] On Behalf Ofgoodgirllakshmi> Saturday, May 13, 2006 2:53 PM> vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Advice pls>>> Dear Memebers> I need your help,i want to if any good astrologer available inHyderabad.One of friend is in hyderabad so if astro guru can help me.> regards> Lakshmi.K>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 23, 2006 , " renabsingh " <renabsingh wrote: > > Respected Astrologers > i have full faith in astrology . but i dont why astrologers > prediction are failed about my marriage . hope kpsystem give me correct > marriage time and strong my trust in astrology > my data is > 24 march 1979 > 19.50 > meerut > sincerely yours > renab singh > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 24, 2006 Dear Astrologers please suggest my marriage timings . i am thankful to you . my data is 24 march 1979 19.50 meerut sincerely yours renab singh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 26, 2006 Dear Renabsigh Having studied your chart, and using 4 step methods, I forsee your marriage only between 12 th Aug to 5th Oct of 2008. You may have an unfruitful love affair till then. Good luck renabsingh <renabsingh wrote: Dear Astrologersplease suggest my marriage timings . i am thankful to you . my data is 24 march 1979 19.50 meerut sincerely yoursrenab singhGood LuckRaichur A RBombay Tel 2506 2609 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 26, 2006 Dear RenabSinghji, The probable date is between 9-2-2007 and 19-3-2007.The life partner will have noble qualities.He /she may hail from North East to North West from your place of birth..Fair complexion.Educated.tall.You have to perform Archana to Sri.Maha Vishnu on a Wednesday in favour of your Janma nakshatram, Gothram and name. I wish you all the best.In one word the marriage may take place any time and soon. Regards, jagannathan. On 12/24/06, renabsingh <renabsingh wrote: Dear Astrologersplease suggest my marriage timings . i am thankful to you . my data is 24 march 1979 19.50 meerut sincerely yoursrenab singh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 20, 2007 Though there are some strong chances of getting married/finalization of marriage between 22 dec 2007 to 14 feb 2008; yet in view of operating antardasa of Mercury in Rahu's Mahadasa, I will advise you to be extremely careful while chosing a match for you. Mercury is closely conjuct with Mars and both these planets are weak due to being in starting degrees. Further, 4th Lord Moon is in 6th house and Ketu afflicts the exalted Sun through aspect which is also placed in Lagna. Smt. Anju Sharma www.globalastrologers.com - Shindi vedic astrology Tuesday, March 20, 2007 11:37 AM [vedic astrology] Marriage timing Hi, Please throw some light upon my chances of marriage and the expected period for it. DOB:- 8th May,1979 TOB:- 4:50 AM Place Lucknow, Uttar Pradesh, India Thanks and regards, Shindi ________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out " Tonight's Picks " on TV. http://tv./ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
