Guest guest Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Dear r.Senthil,Noted that your RBT is 16.30.07. with Asc-Mars-Sun-Rahu-Rahu !!!But where is the fulfillment of the said rules :RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?Asc.sublord=Moon starlord.? Asc. is fixed using the RPs and fixing the 7th CSL to match the wife's.But the Asc.sublord is Rahu should have connection to the Moon star lord, Saturn which is not present,I hope. which is the most impotant rule. (FYI: If you check my analysis , the Asc.RPs= is exactly the Birth Moon corulers). The Asc. sub was chosen either Sun,Moon, or Rahu. Out of which Sun was selected for the reason Sun is in the star of Saturn, the Moon star lord. The 7th CSL will be Venus in whose sign Jupiter(wife star) is located. Hope you can give your study on the analysis on RPS of the all the particpants the real task of this operationRegardsAdithwww.thebestastro.com On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Senthil <athi_ram wrote: Dear Ms Chandra Further to my E-mail below, the RBT which i have fixed based on the RP for my place is given with detailed analysis. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35:00 NGG.Lng. 127:03:00 EGC.Lat. 37:23:51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN As per the given date/place and time between 16:18 to 16:30 the ascendant falls in MARS sign –SUN Star. Rule-1 ===== The RP ascendant sub lord will reveal the nature of query. Here the RP Asc sub lord is Mars. His question is about ascendant only. Hence the ascendant sign lord (Mars) is correct. Rule-2 ===== Birth Asc = RP Moon Birth Moo= RP Asc The SUN is RP Moon sign lord. The birth ascendant falls from 16:19:54 to 16:32:10 Hrs in SUN star. Hence Birth ascendant must be MAR-SUN. Now either VEN or RAH must be the sub lord. Node is stronger than planet and there is no VEN sub is available between the 16:19:54 Hrs to 16:32:10 Hrs. Hence RAH is considered as the ascendant sub lord. The RAH sub falls from 16:29:17 to 16:32:10 Hrs. Now before fixing the sub lord let us see the wife’s star. It is Punarpusa 3rd Pada (MER sign-JUP star). Between 16:29:17 to 16:30:06 Hrs 7th CSL falls as SUN and from 16:30:07 Hrs onwards MOO sub starts and MOO is occupied is JUP sign (in NATAL chart) which is his wife star. Hence I have selected 16:30:07 Hrs is his correct birth time. RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MAR SUN RAH® RAH® MOO JUP® SAT® MER RAH® Now for 16:30:07 hrs birth time, MOO position JUP®-SAT®-MER-RAH® Only MER is appearing is RP Asc Sign lord and JUP®, SAT® are not directly connected. But in the birth Chart SAT® is in MOO-MER-MAR which appearing in RP ascendant hence SAT star is OK. So his RBT is 16:30:07 hrs GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Fri, 7/24/09, Senthil <athi_ram wrote: Senthil <athi_ramRe: Birth Time Rectification Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 9:30 PM Dear MS chandra, I have requested members who are sitting at various places (INDIA, UK, AUS, UAE etc) to do the exercise and to post the RP details for studying the relations between the various RP's working around the world but none of them given. So at least RP for my judgment place is given below for information. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35:00 NGG.Lng. 127:03:00 EGC.Lat. 37:23:51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Mon, 7/13/09, sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > wrote: sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > Birth Time Rectification @gro ups.comMonday, July 13, 2009, 5:26 AM Dear Member,I would be thankful to you All,Could you please Rectify My Brith Time to Micro Level I am Placing all my Lift Time Events.My DOB : 30th Nov, 1976.Time : 16:18 to 16:30 in between only. Place : Hanamkonda : Andhra Pradesh : IndiaLattitude : 018:10:00Longitude : 079:46:00My Lift Events.1) I am Elder Son after me 1 Sister 2 Brothers.2) Education Gaps from 1994 to 1997 ( Worked earned some money) 3) Graduation Started in 1997 and Completed in 2000. 4) Post Graduation in IT 2000-20002 October.5) Joined in SW Job 28th October, 2004 in Mumbai6) Marriage : 10 Nov, 2005 Muhurth : 21:35 (Gemini Lagna)7) My Wife : Born in Punarvasu 3rd Pada: Leo Ascendant : Date of Birth : 5th September,1980 Time : 05:05 am8) My son Date of Birth : 8th March, 2007 at 10:26am Swathi, Tarus Asc 9) 21st May, 2007 Moved to Pune to new Job S/w10) April, 24,2009 was my Last working day in My S/w Job. 11) 5th June, 2009 Moved to UK.Regards,MS chandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Dear Sathish chandra, Can you please provide the place of bith for your wife(Point 7)/son(Point 8) along with latitude/longitude for verification. 7) My Wife : Born in Punarvasu 3rd Pada: Leo Ascendant : Date of Birth : 5th September,1980 Time : 05:05 am (PLACE, LATITUDE & LONGITUDE) 8) My son Date of Birth : 8th March, 2007 at 10:26am Swathi, Tarus Asc (PLACE, LATITUDE & LONGITUDE) Thanks D.Senthil --- On Mon, 7/13/09, sathish chandra <inf2sathish wrote: sathish chandra <inf2sathish Birth Time Rectification Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 5:26 AM Dear Member,I would be thankful to you All,Could you please Rectify My Brith Time to Micro Level I am Placing all my Lift Time Events.My DOB : 30th Nov, 1976.Time : 16:18 to 16:30 in between only.Place : Hanamkonda : Andhra Pradesh : IndiaLattitude : 018:10:00Longitude : 079:46:00My Lift Events.1) I am Elder Son after me 1 Sister 2 Brothers.2) Education Gaps from 1994 to 1997 ( Worked earned some money)3) Graduation Started in 1997 and Completed in 2000. 4) Post Graduation in IT 2000-20002 October.5) Joined in SW Job 28th October, 2004 in Mumbai6) Marriage : 10 Nov, 2005 Muhurth : 21:35 (Gemini Lagna)7) My Wife : Born in Punarvasu 3rd Pada: Leo Ascendant : Date of Birth : 5th September,1980 Time : 05:05 am8) My son Date of Birth : 8th March, 2007 at 10:26am Swathi, Tarus Asc 9) 21st May, 2007 Moved to Pune to new Job S/w10) April, 24,2009 was my Last working day in My S/w Job.11) 5th June, 2009 Moved to UK.Regards,MS chandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Dear Adith ji, I would not call " RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon? " a rule but a theory which is under observation. Truly speaking, I don't have much success with this theory. I have seen the present Moon position can tell either birth Moon position or birth Ascendant position, similarly for present Ascendant position. I believe more research is required on this theory. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:16 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath wrote: Dear r.Senthil,Noted that your RBT is 16.30.07. with Asc-Mars-Sun-Rahu-Rahu !!!But where is the fulfillment of the said rules :RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?Asc.sublord=Moon starlord.? Asc. is fixed using the RPs and fixing the 7th CSL to match the wife's.But the Asc.sublord is Rahu should have connection to the Moon star lord, Saturn which is not present,I hope. which is the most impotant rule. (FYI: If you check my analysis , the Asc.RPs= is exactly the Birth Moon corulers). The Asc. sub was chosen either Sun,Moon, or Rahu. Out of which Sun was selected for the reason Sun is in the star of Saturn, the Moon star lord. The 7th CSL will be Venus in whose sign Jupiter(wife star) is located. Hope you can give your study on the analysis on RPS of the all the particpants the real task of this operationRegardsAdithwww.thebestastro.com On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Senthil <athi_ram wrote: Dear Ms Chandra Further to my E-mail below, the RBT which i have fixed based on the RP for my place is given with detailed analysis. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35:00 NGG.Lng. 127:03:00 EGC.Lat. 37:23:51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN As per the given date/place and time between 16:18 to 16:30 the ascendant falls in MARS sign –SUN Star. Rule-1 ===== The RP ascendant sub lord will reveal the nature of query. Here the RP Asc sub lord is Mars. His question is about ascendant only. Hence the ascendant sign lord (Mars) is correct. Rule-2 ===== Birth Asc = RP Moon Birth Moo= RP Asc The SUN is RP Moon sign lord. The birth ascendant falls from 16:19:54 to 16:32:10 Hrs in SUN star. Hence Birth ascendant must be MAR-SUN. Now either VEN or RAH must be the sub lord. Node is stronger than planet and there is no VEN sub is available between the 16:19:54 Hrs to 16:32:10 Hrs. Hence RAH is considered as the ascendant sub lord. The RAH sub falls from 16:29:17 to 16:32:10 Hrs. Now before fixing the sub lord let us see the wife’s star. It is Punarpusa 3rd Pada (MER sign-JUP star). Between 16:29:17 to 16:30:06 Hrs 7th CSL falls as SUN and from 16:30:07 Hrs onwards MOO sub starts and MOO is occupied is JUP sign (in NATAL chart) which is his wife star. Hence I have selected 16:30:07 Hrs is his correct birth time. RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MAR SUN RAH® RAH® MOO JUP® SAT® MER RAH® Now for 16:30:07 hrs birth time, MOO position JUP®-SAT®-MER-RAH® Only MER is appearing is RP Asc Sign lord and JUP®, SAT® are not directly connected. But in the birth Chart SAT® is in MOO-MER-MAR which appearing in RP ascendant hence SAT star is OK. So his RBT is 16:30:07 hrs GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Fri, 7/24/09, Senthil <athi_ram wrote: Senthil <athi_ramRe: Birth Time Rectification Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 9:30 PM Dear MS chandra, I have requested members who are sitting at various places (INDIA, UK, AUS, UAE etc) to do the exercise and to post the RP details for studying the relations between the various RP's working around the world but none of them given. So at least RP for my judgment place is given below for information. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35:00 NGG.Lng. 127:03:00 EGC.Lat. 37:23:51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Mon, 7/13/09, sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > wrote: sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.com Monday, July 13, 2009, 5:26 AM Dear Member,I would be thankful to you All,Could you please Rectify My Brith Time to Micro Level I am Placing all my Lift Time Events.My DOB : 30th Nov, 1976.Time : 16:18 to 16:30 in between only. Place : Hanamkonda : Andhra Pradesh : IndiaLattitude : 018:10:00Longitude : 079:46:00My Lift Events.1) I am Elder Son after me 1 Sister 2 Brothers.2) Education Gaps from 1994 to 1997 ( Worked earned some money) 3) Graduation Started in 1997 and Completed in 2000. 4) Post Graduation in IT 2000-20002 October.5) Joined in SW Job 28th October, 2004 in Mumbai6) Marriage : 10 Nov, 2005 Muhurth : 21:35 (Gemini Lagna)7) My Wife : Born in Punarvasu 3rd Pada: Leo Ascendant : Date of Birth : 5th September,1980 Time : 05:05 am 8) My son Date of Birth : 8th March, 2007 at 10:26am Swathi, Tarus Asc 9) 21st May, 2007 Moved to Pune to new Job S/w10) April, 24,2009 was my Last working day in My S/w Job.11) 5th June, 2009 Moved to UK. Regards,MS chandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Dear Adith, We will discuss on this in the next weekend after collecting other's RP incase if they submit it. Thanks, D.Senthil--- On Tue, 7/28/09, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinathRe: Birth Time Rectification Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 11:46 AM Dear r.Senthil,Noted that your RBT is 16.30.07. with Asc-Mars-Sun- Rahu-Rahu !!!But where is the fulfillment of the said rules :RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?Asc.sublord= Moon starlord.?Asc. is fixed using the RPs and fixing the 7th CSL to match the wife's.But the Asc.sublord is Rahu should have connection to the Moon star lord, Saturn which is not present,I hope. which is the most impotant rule.(FYI: If you check my analysis , the Asc.RPs= is exactly the Birth Moon corulers). The Asc. sub was chosen either Sun,Moon, or Rahu. Out of which Sun was selected for the reason Sun is in the star of Saturn, the Moon star lord. The 7th CSL will be Venus in whose sign Jupiter(wife star) is located.Hope you can give your study on the analysis on RPS of the all the particpants the real task of this operationRegardsAdithwww.thebestastro. com On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Dear Ms Chandra Further to my E-mail below, the RBT which i have fixed based on the RP for my place is given with detailed analysis. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 NGG.Lng. 127:03: 00 EGC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN As per the given date/place and time between 16:18 to 16:30 the ascendant falls in MARS sign –SUN Star. Rule-1 ===== The RP ascendant sub lord will reveal the nature of query. Here the RP Asc sub lord is Mars. His question is about ascendant only. Hence the ascendant sign lord (Mars) is correct. Rule-2 ===== Birth Asc = RP Moon Birth Moo= RP Asc The SUN is RP Moon sign lord. The birth ascendant falls from 16:19:54 to 16:32:10 Hrs in SUN star. Hence Birth ascendant must be MAR-SUN. Now either VEN or RAH must be the sub lord. Node is stronger than planet and there is no VEN sub is available between the 16:19:54 Hrs to 16:32:10 Hrs. Hence RAH is considered as the ascendant sub lord. The RAH sub falls from 16:29:17 to 16:32:10 Hrs. Now before fixing the sub lord let us see the wife’s star. It is Punarpusa 3rd Pada (MER sign-JUP star). Between 16:29:17 to 16:30:06 Hrs 7th CSL falls as SUN and from 16:30:07 Hrs onwards MOO sub starts and MOO is occupied is JUP sign (in NATAL chart) which is his wife star. Hence I have selected 16:30:07 Hrs is his correct birth time. RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MAR SUN RAH® RAH® MOO JUP® SAT® MER RAH® Now for 16:30:07 hrs birth time, MOO position JUP®-SAT® -MER-RAH( R) Only MER is appearing is RP Asc Sign lord and JUP®, SAT® are not directly connected. But in the birth Chart SAT® is in MOO-MER-MAR which appearing in RP ascendant hence SAT star is OK. So his RBT is 16:30:07 hrs GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Fri, 7/24/09, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Senthil <athi_ram >Re: Birth Time Rectification @gro ups.comFriday, July 24, 2009, 9:30 PM Dear MS chandra, I have requested members who are sitting at various places (INDIA, UK, AUS, UAE etc) to do the exercise and to post the RP details for studying the relations between the various RP's working around the world but none of them given. So at least RP for my judgment place is given below for information. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 NGG.Lng. 127:03: 00 EGC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Mon, 7/13/09, sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > wrote: sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.com Monday, July 13, 2009, 5:26 AM Dear Member,I would be thankful to you All,Could you please Rectify My Brith Time to Micro Level I am Placing all my Lift Time Events.My DOB : 30th Nov, 1976.Time : 16:18 to 16:30 in between only.Place : Hanamkonda : Andhra Pradesh : IndiaLattitude : 018:10:00Longitude : 079:46:00My Lift Events.1) I am Elder Son after me 1 Sister 2 Brothers.2) Education Gaps from 1994 to 1997 ( Worked earned some money)3) Graduation Started in 1997 and Completed in 2000. 4) Post Graduation in IT 2000-20002 October.5) Joined in SW Job 28th October, 2004 in Mumbai6) Marriage : 10 Nov, 2005 Muhurth : 21:35 (Gemini Lagna)7) My Wife : Born in Punarvasu 3rd Pada: Leo Ascendant : Date of Birth : 5th September,1980 Time : 05:05 am8) My son Date of Birth : 8th March, 2007 at 10:26am Swathi, Tarus Asc 9) 21st May, 2007 Moved to Pune to new Job S/w10) April, 24,2009 was my Last working day in My S/w Job.11) 5th June, 2009 Moved to UK.Regards,MS chandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Dear Punit ji,yes. I do accept with your statement.I have seen the if RPs of Judgment is connected to Asc., it is sufficient . But I have just reproduced the statement what he has said in his statement as rules. But the Asc. sub's connection to the Moon star lord is a must and correct. RegardsAdithOn Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: Dear Adith ji, I would not call " RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon? " a rule but a theory which is under observation. Truly speaking, I don't have much success with this theory. I have seen the present Moon position can tell either birth Moon position or birth Ascendant position, similarly for present Ascendant position. I believe more research is required on this theory. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:16 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath wrote: Dear r.Senthil,Noted that your RBT is 16.30.07. with Asc-Mars-Sun-Rahu-Rahu !!!But where is the fulfillment of the said rules :RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?Asc.sublord=Moon starlord.? Asc. is fixed using the RPs and fixing the 7th CSL to match the wife's.But the Asc.sublord is Rahu should have connection to the Moon star lord, Saturn which is not present,I hope. which is the most impotant rule. (FYI: If you check my analysis , the Asc.RPs= is exactly the Birth Moon corulers). The Asc. sub was chosen either Sun,Moon, or Rahu. Out of which Sun was selected for the reason Sun is in the star of Saturn, the Moon star lord. The 7th CSL will be Venus in whose sign Jupiter(wife star) is located. Hope you can give your study on the analysis on RPS of the all the particpants the real task of this operationRegardsAdithwww.thebestastro.com On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Senthil <athi_ram wrote: Dear Ms Chandra Further to my E-mail below, the RBT which i have fixed based on the RP for my place is given with detailed analysis. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35:00 NGG.Lng. 127:03:00 EGC.Lat. 37:23:51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN As per the given date/place and time between 16:18 to 16:30 the ascendant falls in MARS sign –SUN Star. Rule-1 ===== The RP ascendant sub lord will reveal the nature of query. Here the RP Asc sub lord is Mars. His question is about ascendant only. Hence the ascendant sign lord (Mars) is correct. Rule-2 ===== Birth Asc = RP Moon Birth Moo= RP Asc The SUN is RP Moon sign lord. The birth ascendant falls from 16:19:54 to 16:32:10 Hrs in SUN star. Hence Birth ascendant must be MAR-SUN. Now either VEN or RAH must be the sub lord. Node is stronger than planet and there is no VEN sub is available between the 16:19:54 Hrs to 16:32:10 Hrs. Hence RAH is considered as the ascendant sub lord. The RAH sub falls from 16:29:17 to 16:32:10 Hrs. Now before fixing the sub lord let us see the wife’s star. It is Punarpusa 3rd Pada (MER sign-JUP star). Between 16:29:17 to 16:30:06 Hrs 7th CSL falls as SUN and from 16:30:07 Hrs onwards MOO sub starts and MOO is occupied is JUP sign (in NATAL chart) which is his wife star. Hence I have selected 16:30:07 Hrs is his correct birth time. RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MAR SUN RAH® RAH® MOO JUP® SAT® MER RAH® Now for 16:30:07 hrs birth time, MOO position JUP®-SAT®-MER-RAH® Only MER is appearing is RP Asc Sign lord and JUP®, SAT® are not directly connected. But in the birth Chart SAT® is in MOO-MER-MAR which appearing in RP ascendant hence SAT star is OK. So his RBT is 16:30:07 hrs GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Fri, 7/24/09, Senthil <athi_ram wrote: Senthil <athi_ramRe: Birth Time Rectification Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 9:30 PM Dear MS chandra, I have requested members who are sitting at various places (INDIA, UK, AUS, UAE etc) to do the exercise and to post the RP details for studying the relations between the various RP's working around the world but none of them given. So at least RP for my judgment place is given below for information. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35:00 NGG.Lng. 127:03:00 EGC.Lat. 37:23:51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Mon, 7/13/09, sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > wrote: sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.com Monday, July 13, 2009, 5:26 AM Dear Member,I would be thankful to you All,Could you please Rectify My Brith Time to Micro Level I am Placing all my Lift Time Events.My DOB : 30th Nov, 1976.Time : 16:18 to 16:30 in between only. Place : Hanamkonda : Andhra Pradesh : IndiaLattitude : 018:10:00Longitude : 079:46:00My Lift Events.1) I am Elder Son after me 1 Sister 2 Brothers.2) Education Gaps from 1994 to 1997 ( Worked earned some money) 3) Graduation Started in 1997 and Completed in 2000. 4) Post Graduation in IT 2000-20002 October.5) Joined in SW Job 28th October, 2004 in Mumbai6) Marriage : 10 Nov, 2005 Muhurth : 21:35 (Gemini Lagna)7) My Wife : Born in Punarvasu 3rd Pada: Leo Ascendant : Date of Birth : 5th September,1980 Time : 05:05 am 8) My son Date of Birth : 8th March, 2007 at 10:26am Swathi, Tarus Asc 9) 21st May, 2007 Moved to Pune to new Job S/w10) April, 24,2009 was my Last working day in My S/w Job.11) 5th June, 2009 Moved to UK. Regards,MS chandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 Dear Punit, You may please verify the birth time of the chart with urge and submit the RP at your place. Whatever time you fell as per your analysis also may be submitted. Your cooperation will help members to study how the RP works for diff place with different astrologer & the relations between them etc. Can you please do the exercise for research purpose? Thanks D.Senthil --- On Wed, 7/29/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: Punit Pandey <punitpRe: Birth Time Rectification Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 4:00 AM Dear Adith ji, I would not call "RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?" a rule but a theory which is under observation. Truly speaking, I don't have much success with this theory. I have seen the present Moon position can tell either birth Moon position or birth Ascendant position, similarly for present Ascendant position. I believe more research is required on this theory. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:16 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear r.Senthil,Noted that your RBT is 16.30.07. with Asc-Mars-Sun- Rahu-Rahu !!!But where is the fulfillment of the said rules :RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?Asc.sublord= Moon starlord.?Asc. is fixed using the RPs and fixing the 7th CSL to match the wife's.But the Asc.sublord is Rahu should have connection to the Moon star lord, Saturn which is not present,I hope. which is the most impotant rule.(FYI: If you check my analysis , the Asc.RPs= is exactly the Birth Moon corulers). The Asc. sub was chosen either Sun,Moon, or Rahu. Out of which Sun was selected for the reason Sun is in the star of Saturn, the Moon star lord. The 7th CSL will be Venus in whose sign Jupiter(wife star) is located.Hope you can give your study on the analysis on RPS of the all the particpants the real task of this operationRegardsAdithwww.thebestastro. com On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Dear Ms Chandra Further to my E-mail below, the RBT which i have fixed based on the RP for my place is given with detailed analysis. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 NGG.Lng. 127:03: 00 EGC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN As per the given date/place and time between 16:18 to 16:30 the ascendant falls in MARS sign –SUN Star. Rule-1 ===== The RP ascendant sub lord will reveal the nature of query. Here the RP Asc sub lord is Mars. His question is about ascendant only. Hence the ascendant sign lord (Mars) is correct. Rule-2 ===== Birth Asc = RP Moon Birth Moo= RP Asc The SUN is RP Moon sign lord. The birth ascendant falls from 16:19:54 to 16:32:10 Hrs in SUN star. Hence Birth ascendant must be MAR-SUN. Now either VEN or RAH must be the sub lord. Node is stronger than planet and there is no VEN sub is available between the 16:19:54 Hrs to 16:32:10 Hrs. Hence RAH is considered as the ascendant sub lord. The RAH sub falls from 16:29:17 to 16:32:10 Hrs. Now before fixing the sub lord let us see the wife’s star. It is Punarpusa 3rd Pada (MER sign-JUP star). Between 16:29:17 to 16:30:06 Hrs 7th CSL falls as SUN and from 16:30:07 Hrs onwards MOO sub starts and MOO is occupied is JUP sign (in NATAL chart) which is his wife star. Hence I have selected 16:30:07 Hrs is his correct birth time. RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MAR SUN RAH® RAH® MOO JUP® SAT® MER RAH® Now for 16:30:07 hrs birth time, MOO position JUP®-SAT® -MER-RAH( R) Only MER is appearing is RP Asc Sign lord and JUP®, SAT® are not directly connected. But in the birth Chart SAT® is in MOO-MER-MAR which appearing in RP ascendant hence SAT star is OK. So his RBT is 16:30:07 hrs GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Fri, 7/24/09, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Senthil <athi_ram >Re: Birth Time Rectification @gro ups.comFriday, July 24, 2009, 9:30 PM Dear MS chandra, I have requested members who are sitting at various places (INDIA, UK, AUS, UAE etc) to do the exercise and to post the RP details for studying the relations between the various RP's working around the world but none of them given. So at least RP for my judgment place is given below for information. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 NGG.Lng. 127:03: 00 EGC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Mon, 7/13/09, sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > wrote: sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.com Monday, July 13, 2009, 5:26 AM Dear Member,I would be thankful to you All,Could you please Rectify My Brith Time to Micro Level I am Placing all my Lift Time Events.My DOB : 30th Nov, 1976.Time : 16:18 to 16:30 in between only.Place : Hanamkonda : Andhra Pradesh : IndiaLattitude : 018:10:00Longitude : 079:46:00My Lift Events.1) I am Elder Son after me 1 Sister 2 Brothers.2) Education Gaps from 1994 to 1997 ( Worked earned some money)3) Graduation Started in 1997 and Completed in 2000. 4) Post Graduation in IT 2000-20002 October.5) Joined in SW Job 28th October, 2004 in Mumbai6) Marriage : 10 Nov, 2005 Muhurth : 21:35 (Gemini Lagna)7) My Wife : Born in Punarvasu 3rd Pada: Leo Ascendant : Date of Birth : 5th September,1980 Time : 05:05 am8) My son Date of Birth : 8th March, 2007 at 10:26am Swathi, Tarus Asc 9) 21st May, 2007 Moved to Pune to new Job S/w10) April, 24,2009 was my Last working day in My S/w Job.11) 5th June, 2009 Moved to UK.Regards,MS chandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 Dear D.Senthil ji, Here is my first attempt for BTR as per RP :- DOJ :30.07.2009 TOJ : 5:34 PM POJ : Jodhpur (Rajasthan) 73 E 01' oo " 26 N 17' 00' As per J'Hora software. RP :- Sign Star S.L SS.L ASC : Sagi. Ven. Ven. Ket. Moon : Scor Jup Rah Sat Day Lord : Jupiter So RP are Asc : Jupiter Moon : Mars (Sign) Moon in Star : Jupiter Day Lord : Jupiter Birth time given in between 16:18 to 16:30. Lagana for birth time 16:18 is 26 Ar 06'26.26 " Lagana for birth time 16:30 is 29 Ar 22'41.38 " So the Lagana is Aries is conform already so no need of RP for lagana.When we BTR do for few minutes only than we conform the Sub Lord in RP and for micro rectification we should look for SSL level in RP. Now in Aries 25:53:20 to 26:40:0 Venus (SL)-Ket(Sub.L) 26:40:00 to 27:20:00 Sun(SL)-Sun(Sub L.) 27:20:00 to 28:26:40 Sun(SL)-Moon(Sub.L) 28:26:40 to 29:13:20 Sun(SL)-Mars(Sub.L) 29:13:20 to 30:00:00 Sun(SL)-Rahu(Sub.L) When we see the our RP at Sub lord level Ket,Sun,Moon and Rahu no any one is in RP but we have Mars which is first level RP so birth time Ascendant is between 28: 26:40 to 29:13:20 in the star of Sun and Sub of Mars. From Rp we have used Mars so for micro level we will use Second RP which is Jupiter as SSL which is falling between 28:36:23 to 28:42:37 (See the Sub table No. 21).Now we will take the mid of these degrees.Which is 28:39:30 in Aries Lagana. So difference in Degrees is 2:33:04 (28;39:30-26:06:26) from birth time of 16:18.Now we calculate the time to add.Lagana move 1Degree in 4 Minute means 60 kala in 4 Minute so by this calculation we get 10 minute and 02 seconds. Now the right time of Birth is 16:18 +00:10:02=16:28:02. It is my first attempt so please bear with me about my presentation and don't mind on my language and explanations.If some where I am wrong than please correct me with detail. Thanks, M.S.bohra , Senthil <athi_ram wrote: > > Dear Punit, >  > You may please verify the birth time of the chart with urge and submit the RP at your place. Whatever time you fell as per your analysis also may be submitted. Your cooperation will help members to study how the RP works for diff place with different astrologer & the relations between them etc. >  > Can you please do the exercise for research purpose? > >  > Thanks >  > D.Senthil > > > --- On Wed, 7/29/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: > > > Punit Pandey <punitp > Re: Birth Time Rectification > > Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 4:00 AM > > >  > > > > > Dear Adith ji, >  > I would not call " RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon? " a rule but a theory which is under observation. Truly speaking, I don't have much success with this theory. I have seen the present Moon position can tell either birth Moon position or birth Ascendant position, similarly for present Ascendant position. >  > I believe more research is required on this theory. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Puni > > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:16 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: > > >  > > > > Dear r> Dear l, > > Noted that yourhatT is 16.30.07. with07.c-Mars-Sun-ars-uun- u !!! > > But where is the fulfillment of the said rules : > RP Moon= Nataln= c and RPc ac=Natal Moon? > Mocn? > Asd= Moonrd= Moond.? > >d.?c. is fixed using thesins and fixing the inh thL to match the wife's. > But the Buc the Asd isbloru should have connection to the Moon star lord, Saturn which is not present,I hope. which is the mostthe mostt rule. > > (FYI: If you check my analysis , theis c ths= is exactly the Birth Moonrth Moons). Thers)c. sub was chosen either Sun,Moon, orMoonu. Out of which Sun was selected for the reason Sun is in the star of Saturn, the Moon star lord. The rdh ThL will be Venus in whose sign Jupiter(wife star) is located. > > Hope you can give your study on the analysis on RPS of the all the all the pas the real task of this operation > > Regards >egardh > wwwth > www.theo. com > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: > > >  > > Dear Ms Chandra >  > Further to my E-mail below, tbel RBT which i have fixed based on the RP for my place is given with detailed analysis. > > >is. > DOJ:-0707-2025- > TOJ:10:45 hrs > POJ:Seoul,South Korea > GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 N > GG.Lng. 127:03: 00 E > GC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N > Ayana 23:54:15 >  >  >  > > > > > > RP > > Sign > > Star > > Sub1 > > b2 2 >> S > > > > > ASC > > MER > > MOO > > MAR > > RAH® > > > > > > SUN VEN > VEN > > RAH® > > VEN >  > As per the given date/place and time between 16:18 to 16:30 the ascendant falls in MARS sign †" SUN Star. > > > Rule-1 > ===== > The RP ascendant sub ill revel reve nathe nature of queryque >  rec > Ru > Rule-2 > ===== > Bir= RAsc = RP Moon > Birth Moo= RP Asc >  > The SP Moon s Mo lorign lord. The birth ascendan >alls from 16:19:54 to 16:32:c =Hrs in SUN star. Hence Birth ascmusant must be MAR-SUN. Now either VEN or RAH must be the sub lord. Node is stthager than ana thernd there is no VEN sub is avt mable between the 16:19:54 Hrs to 16:32:10 Hrs. Hence RAH is considered as tr tascendant sub lord. The RAH sub falls from 16:29:17 to 16:32:10 Hrs. Now before fixing the sub lord see the ee th€™s fear.s star Put is Punarpusa 3rd Pada (MER sign-JUP staree 16ween 16to 117 to066:rs 76 Hrs 7th CSL falls asus see th froe’:3sta7 Hrsis wO sub OO sub starts and MOO is occupied itwJen sign (in NATAL chart) which is his wife snce I ence I have selected 16:30:07 Hrs issubs correct birth time. >  > > > > > > RP > > > > > Si St > > Star > > Sub1 > > Sub2 > > > ASC > > MAR > > SUN H(R > RAH® > > RAH® > > > MOO > > JUP® > > SAT® > >> SR > > RAH® >w f r 1630:for 16:30:07 hrs birth time, MOO pAH(tion JUP®-SAT® -M> MRAH( R) >  > Only MER is appearing is RP Asc Sign lord and JUP:30, SAT® areh tt directly connected. But in the birth Chart > ® is in MOO-Mis MAR which appearing in RP ascendant hence SAT star is OK. >  > So his RBT is in:30:07 hrs >  > GOOD LUCK! >  > Thanks >  > D.Senthil > > > hen--- On Fri, 7/24/09, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: > > GOOD > Senthil <athi_ram > Re: Birth Time Rectifi_ram@ya > > @gro ups.com > Friday, July 24,> > M > > >  > > > Dear MS chandra, >  > I have requested members who are sitting at various places  > , UK, AUS, UAE etc) to do the exercise and to post the RP details for studyingo ae siations between the various RP's working around the world but none of them given. So at least RP fr sty judgment place is given below for information. >  > DOJ:25-07-2009 > TOJ:10:45 hrs > POJ:Seoul,South Korea > GG.Lat. 37:nt 00 N > GG.Lng. 127:03: 00 mat GC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N > Ayana 23:54:15 >  > > RP > Sign > Sta N > N > ub1 > Sub2 > > ASC > MER > MOO > MAR > RAH® > > MOO > SUN > VEN > > ® > VEN > >  > GOOD LUCK! >  > Thanks >  > D.SenthiER >  > > > --- On Mon, 7/13/09, sathish> RAH(Ra <inf2sathish@ > wrote: > Thank > > > sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > > Birth Time Rectification > @gro ups.com > > Monday, July 13, 2009, 5:26 AM > > Dear Member, > > I would be thankful to you All, > Could you please Rectify My Brith Time to Micro Level I am Placing all my Lift Time Events. > > My DOB   : 30th Nov, 1976. > Time         : 16:18 to 16:30 in between only. > Place        : Hanamkonda : Andhra Pradesh : India > Lattitude    : 018:10:00 > Longitude   : 079:46:00 > > My Lift Events. > > 1) I am Elder Son after me 1 Sister 2 Brothers. > 2) Education Gaps from 1994 to 1997 ( Worked earned some money) > 3) Graduation Started in 1997 and Completed in 2000. > 4) Post Graduation in IT 2000-20002 October. > 5) Joined in SW Job 28th October, 2004 in Mumbai > 6) Marriage : 10 Nov, 2005 Muhurth : 21:35 (Gemini Lagna) > 7) My Wife : Born in Punarvasu 3rd Pada: Leo Ascendant : Date of Birth : 5th September,1980 Time : 05:05 am > 8) My son Date of Birth : 8th March, 2007 at 10:26am Swathi, Tarus Asc > 9) 21st May, 2007 Moved to Pune to new Job S/w > 10) April, 24,2009 was my Last working day in My S/w Job. > 11) 5th June, 2009 Moved to UK. > > Regards, > MS chandra > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 Dear Senthil ji, I am getting the right time of Birth is 16:27:20(In previous post something is wrong) where Ascendant is Sun(Sign)-Mars(SL)-Jupiter(Sub.L)-Ke(Sub-Sub.L).For marriage we look for 7th CSL should have relation with 2nd,11th CSL.Here 7th CSL is Venus.Venus is in the star of Venus than we look for Sub lord which is Mercury.11th CSL is again Venus and 2nd CSL is Saturn.Saturn is in the star of Mercury.Saturn is the star of Mars. The Native have did the marriage on 10th Nov;2005.As above birth time at the time of marriage the Dasa period is Mer-Sat-Sat-Sat-Mars. Is this all give the indication that birth time is correct as above mentioned ? Please let me know i am on right way or wrong some where. Thanks, M.S.Bohra , Senthil <athi_ram wrote: > > Dear Punit, >  > You may please verify the birth time of the chart with urge and submit the RP at your place. Whatever time you fell as per your analysis also may be submitted. Your cooperation will help members to study how the RP works for diff place with different astrologer & the relations between them etc. >  > Can you please do the exercise for research purpose? > >  > Thanks >  > D.Senthil > > > --- On Wed, 7/29/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: > > > Punit Pandey <punitp > Re: Birth Time Rectification > > Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 4:00 AM > > >  > > > > > Dear Adith ji, >  > I would not call " RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon? " a rule but a theory which is under observation. Truly speaking, I don't have much success with this theory. I have seen the present Moon position can tell either birth Moon position or birth Ascendant position, similarly for present Ascendant position. >  > I believe more research is required on this theory. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Puni > > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:16 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: > > >  > > > > Dear r> Dear l, > > Noted that yourhatT is 16.30.07. with07.c-Mars-Sun-ars-uun- u !!! > > But where is the fulfillment of the said rules : > RP Moon= Nataln= c and RPc ac=Natal Moon? > Mocn? > Asd= Moonrd= Moond.? > >d.?c. is fixed using thesins and fixing the inh thL to match the wife's. > But the Buc the Asd isbloru should have connection to the Moon star lord, Saturn which is not present,I hope. which is the mostthe mostt rule. > > (FYI: If you check my analysis , theis c ths= is exactly the Birth Moonrth Moons). Thers)c. sub was chosen either Sun,Moon, orMoonu. Out of which Sun was selected for the reason Sun is in the star of Saturn, the Moon star lord. The rdh ThL will be Venus in whose sign Jupiter(wife star) is located. > > Hope you can give your study on the analysis on RPS of the all the all the pas the real task of this operation > > Regards >egardh > wwwth > www.theo. com > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: > > >  > > Dear Ms Chandra >  > Further to my E-mail below, tbel RBT which i have fixed based on the RP for my place is given with detailed analysis. > >is. > DOJ:25-07-2025- > TOJ:10:45 hrs > POJ:Seoul,South Korea > GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 N > GG.Lng. 127:03: 00 E > GC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N > Ayana 23:54:15 >  >  >  > > > > > > RP > > Sign > > Star > > Sub1 > > Sub2 >> S > > > > ASC > > MER > > MOO > > MAR > > RAH® > > > > > > SUN > > VEN > > RAH® > > VEN >  > As per the given date/place and time between 16:18 to 16:30 the ascendant falls in MARS sign †" SUN Star. > > > Rule-1 > ===== > The RP ascendant sub lord will reveal the nature of queryque >  rect. >  > Rule-2 > ===== > Birth Asc = RP Moon > Birth Moo= RP Asc >  > The SUN is RP Moon sign lord. The birth ascendan >alls from 16:19:54 to 16:32:c =Hrs in SUN star. Hence Birth ascendant must be MAR-SUN. Now either VEN or RAH must be the sub lord. Node is stronger than planet and there is no VEN sub is avt mable between the 16:19:54 Hrs to 16:32:10 Hrs. Hence RAH is considered as tr tascendant sub lord. The RAH sub falls from 16:29:17 to 16:32:10 Hrs. Now before fixing the sub lord let us see the wife’s star. It is Punarpusa 3rd Pada (MER sign-JUP star). Between 16:29:17 to 16:30:06 Hrs 7th CSL falls asus see th froe’:3sta7 Hrsis wards MOO sub starts and MOO is occupied itwJen sign (in NATAL chart) which is his wife star. Hence I have selected 16:30:07 Hrs issubs correct birth time. >  > > > > > > RP > > > > > Sign > > Star > > Sub1 > > Sub2 > > > ASC > > MAR > > SUN > > RAH® > > RAH® > > > MOO > > JUP® > > SAT® > >> SR > > RAH® >  > Now for 16:30:07 hrs birth time, MOO pAH(tion JUP®-SAT® -M> MRAH( R) >  > Only MER is appearing is RP Asc Sign lord and JUP:30, SAT® areh tt directly connected. But in the birth Chart > ® is in MOO-Mis MAR which appearing in RP ascendant hence SAT star is OK. >  > So his RBT is in:30:07 hrs >  > GOOD LUCK! >  > Thanks >  > D.Senthil > > > hen--- On Fri, 7/24/09, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: > > GOOD > Senthil <athi_ram > Re: Birth Time Rectifi_ram@ya > > @gro ups.com > Friday, July 24,> > M > > >  > > > Dear MS chandra, >  > I have requested members who are sitting at various places  > , UK, AUS, UAE etc) to do the exercise and to post the RP details for studyingo ae siations between the various RP's working around the world but none of them given. So at least RP fr sty judgment place is given below for information. >  > DOJ:25-07-2009 > TOJ:10:45 hrs > POJ:Seoul,South Korea > GG.Lat. 37:nt 00 N > GG.Lng. 127:03: 00 mat GC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N > Ayana 23:54:15 >  > > RP > Sign > Sta N > N > ub1 > Sub2 > > ASC > MER > MOO > MAR > RAH® > > MOO > SUN > VEN > > ® > VEN > >  > GOOD LUCK! >  > Thanks >  > D.SenthiER >  > > > --- On Mon, 7/13/09, sathish> RAH(Ra <inf2sathish@ > wrote: > Thank >  > > sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > > ndra <i: Birth Time Rectification > @gro ups.com > > Monday, July 13, 2009, 5:26 AM > > Dear Member, > > I would be thankful to you All, > Could you please Rectify My Brith Time to Micro Level I am Placing all my Lift Time Events. > > My DOB   : 30th Nov, 1976. > Time         : 16:18 to 16:30 in between only. > Place        : Hanamkonda : Andhra Pradesh : India > Lattitude    : 018:10:00 > Longitude   : 079:46:00 > > My Lift Events. > > 1) I am Elder Son after me 1 Sister 2 Brothers. > 2) Education Gaps from 1994 to 1997 ( Worked earned some money) > 3) Graduation Started in 1997 and Completed in 2000. > 4) Post Graduation in IT 2000-20002 October. > 5) Joined in SW Job 28th October, 2004 in Mumbai > 6) Marriage : 10 Nov, 2005 Muhurth : 21:35 (Gemini Lagna) > 7) My Wife : Born in Punarvasu 3rd Pada: Leo Ascendant : Date of Birth : 5th September,1980 Time : 05:05 am > 8) My son Date of Birth : 8th March, 2007 at 10:26am Swathi, Tarus Asc > 9) 21st May, 2007 Moved to Pune to new Job S/w > 10) April, 24,2009 was my Last working day in My S/w Job. > 11) 5th June, 2009 Moved to UK. > > Regards, > MS chandra > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Dear sri Punit Ji,One theory is comparing the Planets - RP Moon = Natal Asc, RP Asc = Natal Moon.Another Theory (as mentioned by you) is comparing Planet positions - RP Moon position = Natal Moon position, RP Asc position = Natal Asc position. Both the theories are RP based theories. RP based RBT theories may not give the same RBT at all times and at all places. Of course it is our endeavour to find out, through various theories, RBT nearer to ACTUAL BIRTH TIME which is always ONE and is known to God only.The traditional astrogers mostly and normally never worry about correct Birth Time. The correctness of Birth time is the most important in KP astrology due to reasons well known to all KP followers.The Bith Time which confirms the past life events of a native, as per KP rules, can safely be taken as correct and exact Birth Time. Thanks and Regds.K. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Wed, 29/7/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:Punit Pandey <punitpRe: Birth Time Rectification Date: Wednesday, 29 July, 2009, 4:30 PM Dear Adith ji, I would not call "RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?" a rule but a theory which is under observation. Truly speaking, I don't have much success with this theory. I have seen the present Moon position can tell either birth Moon position or birth Ascendant position, similarly for present Ascendant position. I believe more research is required on this theory. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:16 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear r.Senthil,Noted that your RBT is 16.30.07. with Asc-Mars-Sun- Rahu-Rahu !!!But where is the fulfillment of the said rules :RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?Asc.sublord= Moon starlord.? Asc. is fixed using the RPs and fixing the 7th CSL to match the wife's.But the Asc.sublord is Rahu should have connection to the Moon star lord, Saturn which is not present,I hope. which is the most impotant rule. (FYI: If you check my analysis , the Asc.RPs= is exactly the Birth Moon corulers). The Asc. sub was chosen either Sun,Moon, or Rahu. Out of which Sun was selected for the reason Sun is in the star of Saturn, the Moon star lord. The 7th CSL will be Venus in whose sign Jupiter(wife star) is located. Hope you can give your study on the analysis on RPS of the all the particpants the real task of this operationRegardsAdithwww.thebestastro. com On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Dear Ms Chandra Further to my E-mail below, the RBT which i have fixed based on the RP for my place is given with detailed analysis. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 NGG.Lng. 127:03: 00 EGC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN As per the given date/place and time between 16:18 to 16:30 the ascendant falls in MARS sign –SUN Star. Rule-1 ===== The RP ascendant sub lord will reveal the nature of query. Here the RP Asc sub lord is Mars. His question is about ascendant only. Hence the ascendant sign lord (Mars) is correct. Rule-2 ===== Birth Asc = RP Moon Birth Moo= RP Asc The SUN is RP Moon sign lord. The birth ascendant falls from 16:19:54 to 16:32:10 Hrs in SUN star. Hence Birth ascendant must be MAR-SUN. Now either VEN or RAH must be the sub lord. Node is stronger than planet and there is no VEN sub is available between the 16:19:54 Hrs to 16:32:10 Hrs. Hence RAH is considered as the ascendant sub lord. The RAH sub falls from 16:29:17 to 16:32:10 Hrs. Now before fixing the sub lord let us see the wife’s star. It is Punarpusa 3rd Pada (MER sign-JUP star). Between 16:29:17 to 16:30:06 Hrs 7th CSL falls as SUN and from 16:30:07 Hrs onwards MOO sub starts and MOO is occupied is JUP sign (in NATAL chart) which is his wife star. Hence I have selected 16:30:07 Hrs is his correct birth time. RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MAR SUN RAH® RAH® MOO JUP® SAT® MER RAH® Now for 16:30:07 hrs birth time, MOO position JUP®-SAT® -MER-RAH( R) Only MER is appearing is RP Asc Sign lord and JUP®, SAT® are not directly connected. But in the birth Chart SAT® is in MOO-MER-MAR which appearing in RP ascendant hence SAT star is OK. So his RBT is 16:30:07 hrs GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Fri, 7/24/09, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Senthil <athi_ram >Re: Birth Time Rectification @gro ups.comFriday, July 24, 2009, 9:30 PM Dear MS chandra, I have requested members who are sitting at various places (INDIA, UK, AUS, UAE etc) to do the exercise and to post the RP details for studying the relations between the various RP's working around the world but none of them given. So at least RP for my judgment place is given below for information. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 NGG.Lng. 127:03: 00 EGC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Mon, 7/13/09, sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > wrote: sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.com Monday, July 13, 2009, 5:26 AM Dear Member,I would be thankful to you All,Could you please Rectify My Brith Time to Micro Level I am Placing all my Lift Time Events.My DOB : 30th Nov, 1976.Time : 16:18 to 16:30 in between only. Place : Hanamkonda : Andhra Pradesh : IndiaLattitude : 018:10:00Longitude : 079:46:00My Lift Events.1) I am Elder Son after me 1 Sister 2 Brothers.2) Education Gaps from 1994 to 1997 ( Worked earned some money) 3) Graduation Started in 1997 and Completed in 2000. 4) Post Graduation in IT 2000-20002 October.5) Joined in SW Job 28th October, 2004 in Mumbai6) Marriage : 10 Nov, 2005 Muhurth : 21:35 (Gemini Lagna)7) My Wife : Born in Punarvasu 3rd Pada: Leo Ascendant : Date of Birth : 5th September,1980 Time : 05:05 am 8) My son Date of Birth : 8th March, 2007 at 10:26am Swathi, Tarus Asc 9) 21st May, 2007 Moved to Pune to new Job S/w10) April, 24,2009 was my Last working day in My S/w Job.11) 5th June, 2009 Moved to UK. Regards,MS chandra recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Dear Naidu ji, There are couple of theories and we had good discussion on these theories in the past. I have complied a list of all such theories and can be found at - http://logy.astrosage.com/Home/recent-researches#TOC-Birth-Time-Rectification I personally use only RP (As taught by Shri KSK) and event based rectification. I don't use any other theories mentioned in above article. Truly speaking I am very critical to all these theories and I continuously maintained that without any verification framework, we don't have any tool to verify which one is correct and which one is not. In my opinion, it is not fair to use the theories that can not be verified by an astrologer. Though this is my personal opinion and it doesn't stop anybody to use these theories. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:48 AM, K. P. Naidu <konathalan wrote: Dear sri Punit Ji,One theory is comparing the Planets - RP Moon = Natal Asc, RP Asc = Natal Moon.Another Theory (as mentioned by you) is comparing Planet positions - RP Moon position = Natal Moon position, RP Asc position = Natal Asc position. Both the theories are RP based theories. RP based RBT theories may not give the same RBT at all times and at all places. Of course it is our endeavour to find out, through various theories, RBT nearer to ACTUAL BIRTH TIME which is always ONE and is known to God only. The traditional astrogers mostly and normally never worry about correct Birth Time. The correctness of Birth time is the most important in KP astrology due to reasons well known to all KP followers.The Bith Time which confirms the past life events of a native, as per KP rules, can safely be taken as correct and exact Birth Time. Thanks and Regds.K. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Wed, 29/7/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp Re: Birth Time Rectification Date: Wednesday, 29 July, 2009, 4:30 PM Dear Adith ji, I would not call " RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon? " a rule but a theory which is under observation. Truly speaking, I don't have much success with this theory. I have seen the present Moon position can tell either birth Moon position or birth Ascendant position, similarly for present Ascendant position. I believe more research is required on this theory. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:16 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear r.Senthil,Noted that your RBT is 16.30.07. with Asc-Mars-Sun- Rahu-Rahu !!!But where is the fulfillment of the said rules :RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?Asc.sublord= Moon starlord.? Asc. is fixed using the RPs and fixing the 7th CSL to match the wife's.But the Asc.sublord is Rahu should have connection to the Moon star lord, Saturn which is not present,I hope. which is the most impotant rule. (FYI: If you check my analysis , the Asc.RPs= is exactly the Birth Moon corulers). The Asc. sub was chosen either Sun,Moon, or Rahu. Out of which Sun was selected for the reason Sun is in the star of Saturn, the Moon star lord. The 7th CSL will be Venus in whose sign Jupiter(wife star) is located. Hope you can give your study on the analysis on RPS of the all the particpants the real task of this operationRegardsAdithwww.thebestastro. com On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Dear Ms Chandra Further to my E-mail below, the RBT which i have fixed based on the RP for my place is given with detailed analysis. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 NGG.Lng. 127:03: 00 EGC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN As per the given date/place and time between 16:18 to 16:30 the ascendant falls in MARS sign –SUN Star. Rule-1 ===== The RP ascendant sub lord will reveal the nature of query. Here the RP Asc sub lord is Mars. His question is about ascendant only. Hence the ascendant sign lord (Mars) is correct. Rule-2 ===== Birth Asc = RP Moon Birth Moo= RP Asc The SUN is RP Moon sign lord. The birth ascendant falls from 16:19:54 to 16:32:10 Hrs in SUN star. Hence Birth ascendant must be MAR-SUN. Now either VEN or RAH must be the sub lord. Node is stronger than planet and there is no VEN sub is available between the 16:19:54 Hrs to 16:32:10 Hrs. Hence RAH is considered as the ascendant sub lord. The RAH sub falls from 16:29:17 to 16:32:10 Hrs. Now before fixing the sub lord let us see the wife’s star. It is Punarpusa 3rd Pada (MER sign-JUP star). Between 16:29:17 to 16:30:06 Hrs 7th CSL falls as SUN and from 16:30:07 Hrs onwards MOO sub starts and MOO is occupied is JUP sign (in NATAL chart) which is his wife star. Hence I have selected 16:30:07 Hrs is his correct birth time. RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MAR SUN RAH® RAH® MOO JUP® SAT® MER RAH® Now for 16:30:07 hrs birth time, MOO position JUP®-SAT® -MER-RAH( R) Only MER is appearing is RP Asc Sign lord and JUP®, SAT® are not directly connected. But in the birth Chart SAT® is in MOO-MER-MAR which appearing in RP ascendant hence SAT star is OK. So his RBT is 16:30:07 hrs GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Fri, 7/24/09, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Senthil <athi_ram >Re: Birth Time Rectification @gro ups.com Friday, July 24, 2009, 9:30 PM Dear MS chandra, I have requested members who are sitting at various places (INDIA, UK, AUS, UAE etc) to do the exercise and to post the RP details for studying the relations between the various RP's working around the world but none of them given. So at least RP for my judgment place is given below for information. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 NGG.Lng. 127:03: 00 EGC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Mon, 7/13/09, sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > wrote: sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.com Monday, July 13, 2009, 5:26 AM Dear Member,I would be thankful to you All,Could you please Rectify My Brith Time to Micro Level I am Placing all my Lift Time Events.My DOB : 30th Nov, 1976.Time : 16:18 to 16:30 in between only. Place : Hanamkonda : Andhra Pradesh : IndiaLattitude : 018:10:00Longitude : 079:46:00My Lift Events.1) I am Elder Son after me 1 Sister 2 Brothers.2) Education Gaps from 1994 to 1997 ( Worked earned some money) 3) Graduation Started in 1997 and Completed in 2000. 4) Post Graduation in IT 2000-20002 October.5) Joined in SW Job 28th October, 2004 in Mumbai6) Marriage : 10 Nov, 2005 Muhurth : 21:35 (Gemini Lagna)7) My Wife : Born in Punarvasu 3rd Pada: Leo Ascendant : Date of Birth : 5th September,1980 Time : 05:05 am 8) My son Date of Birth : 8th March, 2007 at 10:26am Swathi, Tarus Asc 9) 21st May, 2007 Moved to Pune to new Job S/w10) April, 24,2009 was my Last working day in My S/w Job.11) 5th June, 2009 Moved to UK. Regards,MS chandra recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Dear sri Punit Ji,Verification framework, I understand, is available in KP. We have clear Rules in KP to predict the life events like, marriage, job, progeny, foreign travel, sickness, hospitalisation, imprisonment, accident, etc., etc. The same rules , I understand, can be applied to verify the past life events.Of course Vimshottari based DBAS period may not change with slight changes in Birth Time, but Cuspla sublords and their star lords may change.Hence RBT must confirm all the past life events as per KP rules of prediction.Here, I can guess feeling/opinion/comment of some of our KP followers, that "it is not possible to confirm ALL the past life events with any RBT." What are the probable reasons for such a practical experience. Either RBT may be wrong or verificagtion rules (KP) may still require improvement. A rationale approach and thinking is necessary. Open mindedness may be an essential prerequisite to conduct research in this regard.Thanks and Regards,Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Director (Finance) Retd.,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Fri, 31/7/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:Punit Pandey <punitpRe: Birth Time Rectification Date: Friday, 31 July, 2009, 12:14 PM Dear Naidu ji, There are couple of theories and we had good discussion on these theories in the past. I have complied a list of all such theories and can be found at - http://logy. astrosage. com/Home/ recent-researche s#TOC-Birth- Time-Rectificati on I personally use only RP (As taught by Shri KSK) and event based rectification. I don't use any other theories mentioned in above article. Truly speaking I am very critical to all these theories and I continuously maintained that without any verification framework, we don't have any tool to verify which one is correct and which one is not. In my opinion, it is not fair to use the theories that can not be verified by an astrologer. Though this is my personal opinion and it doesn't stop anybody to use these theories. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:48 AM, K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear sri Punit Ji,One theory is comparing the Planets - RP Moon = Natal Asc, RP Asc = Natal Moon.Another Theory (as mentioned by you) is comparing Planet positions - RP Moon position = Natal Moon position, RP Asc position = Natal Asc position. Both the theories are RP based theories. RP based RBT theories may not give the same RBT at all times and at all places. Of course it is our endeavour to find out, through various theories, RBT nearer to ACTUAL BIRTH TIME which is always ONE and is known to God only. The traditional astrogers mostly and normally never worry about correct Birth Time. The correctness of Birth time is the most important in KP astrology due to reasons well known to all KP followers.The Bith Time which confirms the past life events of a native, as per KP rules, can safely be taken as correct and exact Birth Time. Thanks and Regds.K. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Wed, 29/7/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.comWednesday, 29 July, 2009, 4:30 PM Dear Adith ji, I would not call "RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?" a rule but a theory which is under observation. Truly speaking, I don't have much success with this theory. I have seen the present Moon position can tell either birth Moon position or birth Ascendant position, similarly for present Ascendant position. I believe more research is required on this theory. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:16 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear r.Senthil,Noted that your RBT is 16.30.07. with Asc-Mars-Sun- Rahu-Rahu !!!But where is the fulfillment of the said rules :RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?Asc.sublord= Moon starlord.? Asc. is fixed using the RPs and fixing the 7th CSL to match the wife's.But the Asc.sublord is Rahu should have connection to the Moon star lord, Saturn which is not present,I hope. which is the most impotant rule. (FYI: If you check my analysis , the Asc.RPs= is exactly the Birth Moon corulers). The Asc. sub was chosen either Sun,Moon, or Rahu. Out of which Sun was selected for the reason Sun is in the star of Saturn, the Moon star lord. The 7th CSL will be Venus in whose sign Jupiter(wife star) is located. Hope you can give your study on the analysis on RPS of the all the particpants the real task of this operationRegardsAdithwww.thebestastro. com On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Dear Ms Chandra Further to my E-mail below, the RBT which i have fixed based on the RP for my place is given with detailed analysis. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 NGG.Lng. 127:03: 00 EGC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN As per the given date/place and time between 16:18 to 16:30 the ascendant falls in MARS sign –SUN Star. Rule-1 ===== The RP ascendant sub lord will reveal the nature of query. Here the RP Asc sub lord is Mars. His question is about ascendant only. Hence the ascendant sign lord (Mars) is correct. Rule-2 ===== Birth Asc = RP Moon Birth Moo= RP Asc The SUN is RP Moon sign lord. The birth ascendant falls from 16:19:54 to 16:32:10 Hrs in SUN star. Hence Birth ascendant must be MAR-SUN. Now either VEN or RAH must be the sub lord. Node is stronger than planet and there is no VEN sub is available between the 16:19:54 Hrs to 16:32:10 Hrs. Hence RAH is considered as the ascendant sub lord. The RAH sub falls from 16:29:17 to 16:32:10 Hrs. Now before fixing the sub lord let us see the wife’s star. It is Punarpusa 3rd Pada (MER sign-JUP star). Between 16:29:17 to 16:30:06 Hrs 7th CSL falls as SUN and from 16:30:07 Hrs onwards MOO sub starts and MOO is occupied is JUP sign (in NATAL chart) which is his wife star. Hence I have selected 16:30:07 Hrs is his correct birth time. RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MAR SUN RAH® RAH® MOO JUP® SAT® MER RAH® Now for 16:30:07 hrs birth time, MOO position JUP®-SAT® -MER-RAH( R) Only MER is appearing is RP Asc Sign lord and JUP®, SAT® are not directly connected. But in the birth Chart SAT® is in MOO-MER-MAR which appearing in RP ascendant hence SAT star is OK. So his RBT is 16:30:07 hrs GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Fri, 7/24/09, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Senthil <athi_ram >Re: Birth Time Rectification @gro ups.com Friday, July 24, 2009, 9:30 PM Dear MS chandra, I have requested members who are sitting at various places (INDIA, UK, AUS, UAE etc) to do the exercise and to post the RP details for studying the relations between the various RP's working around the world but none of them given. So at least RP for my judgment place is given below for information. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 NGG.Lng. 127:03: 00 EGC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Mon, 7/13/09, sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > wrote: sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.com Monday, July 13, 2009, 5:26 AM Dear Member,I would be thankful to you All,Could you please Rectify My Brith Time to Micro Level I am Placing all my Lift Time Events.My DOB : 30th Nov, 1976.Time : 16:18 to 16:30 in between only. Place : Hanamkonda : Andhra Pradesh : IndiaLattitude : 018:10:00Longitude : 079:46:00My Lift Events.1) I am Elder Son after me 1 Sister 2 Brothers.2) Education Gaps from 1994 to 1997 ( Worked earned some money) 3) Graduation Started in 1997 and Completed in 2000. 4) Post Graduation in IT 2000-20002 October.5) Joined in SW Job 28th October, 2004 in Mumbai6) Marriage : 10 Nov, 2005 Muhurth : 21:35 (Gemini Lagna)7) My Wife : Born in Punarvasu 3rd Pada: Leo Ascendant : Date of Birth : 5th September,1980 Time : 05:05 am 8) My son Date of Birth : 8th March, 2007 at 10:26am Swathi, Tarus Asc 9) 21st May, 2007 Moved to Pune to new Job S/w10) April, 24,2009 was my Last working day in My S/w Job.11) 5th June, 2009 Moved to UK. Regards,MS chandra recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. Looking for local information? Find it on Local Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Dear friends I have forget that movements of every Lagana is not the same as per lagana in two hours.Aries have fast speed in movement so the calculation for 2Degree and 33 Kala will be accordingly.It was the mistake in my first post in thread. Thanks, M.S.Bohra , " msbohra62 " <msbohra62 wrote: > > Dear Senthil ji, > > I am getting the right time of Birth is 16:27:20(In previous post something is wrong) where Ascendant is Sun(Sign)-Mars(SL)-Jupiter(Sub.L)-Ke(Sub-Sub.L).For marriage we look for 7th CSL should have relation with 2nd,11th CSL.Here 7th CSL is Venus.Venus is in the star of Venus than we look for Sub lord which is Mercury.11th CSL is again Venus and 2nd CSL is Saturn.Saturn is in the star of Mercury.Saturn is the star of Mars. > > The Native have did the marriage on 10th Nov;2005.As above birth time at the time of marriage the Dasa period is Mer-Sat-Sat-Sat-Mars. > > Is this all give the indication that birth time is correct as above mentioned ? > > Please let me know i am on right way or wrong some where. > > Thanks, > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > , Senthil <athi_ram@> wrote: > > > > Dear Punit, > >  > > You may please verify the birth time of the chart with urge and submit the RP at your place. Whatever time you fell as per your analysis also may be submitted. Your cooperation will help members to study how the RP works for diff place with different astrologer & the relations between them etc. > >  > > Can you please do the exercise for research purpose? > > > >  > > Thanks > >  > > D.Senthil > > > > > > --- On Wed, 7/29/09, Punit Pandey <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > Punit Pandey <punitp@> > > Re: Birth Time Rectification > > > > Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 4:00 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Adith ji, > >  > > I would not call " RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon? " a rule but a theory which is under observation. Truly speaking, I don't have much success with this theory. I have seen the present Moon position can tell either birth Moon position or birth Ascendant position, similarly for present Ascendant position. > >  > > I believe more research is required on this theory. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Puni > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:16 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear r> Dear l, > > > > Noted that yourhatT is 16.30.07. with07.c-Mars-Sun-ars-uun- u !!! > > > > But where is the fulfillment of the said rules : > > RP Moon= Nataln= c and RPc ac=Natal Moon? > > Mocn? > > Asd= Moonrd= Moond.? > > > >d.?c. is fixed using thesins and fixing the inh thL to match the wife's. > > But the Buc the Asd isbloru should have connection to the Moon star lord, Saturn which is not present,I hope. which is the mostthe mostt rule. > > > > (FYI: If you check my analysis , theis c ths= is exactly the Birth Moonrth Moons). Thers)c. sub was chosen either Sun,Moon, orMoonu. Out of which Sun was selected for the reason Sun is in the star of Saturn, the Moon star lord. The rdh ThL will be Venus in whose sign Jupiter(wife star) is located. > > > > Hope you can give your study on the analysis on RPS of the all the all the pas the real task of this operation > > > > Regards > >egardh > > wwwth > > www.theo. com > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ms Chandra > >  > > Further to my E-mail below, tbel RBT which i have fixed based on the RP for my place is given with detailed analysis. > > > >is. > > DOJ:25-07-2025- > > TOJ:10:45 hrs > > POJ:Seoul,South Korea > > GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 N > > GG.Lng. 127:03: 00 E > > GC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N > > Ayana 23:54:15 > >  > >  > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > RP > > > > Sign > > > > Star > > > > Sub1 > > > > Sub2 > >> S > > > > > > > > > > ASC > > > > MER > > > > MOO > > > > MAR > > > > RAH® > > > > > > > > > > > > SUN > > > > VEN > > > > > RAH® > > > > VEN > >  > > As per the given date/place and time between 16:18 to 16:30 the ascendant falls in MARS sign †" SUN Star. > > > > > > Rule-1 > > ===== > > The RP ascendant sub lord will reveal the nature of queryque > >  > rect. > >  > > Rule-2 > > ===== > > Birth Asc = RP Moon > > Birth Moo= RP Asc > >  > > The SUN is RP Moon sign lord. The birth ascendan > >alls from 16:19:54 to 16:32:c =Hrs in SUN star. Hence Birth ascendant must be MAR-SUN. Now either VEN or RAH must be the sub lord. Node is stronger than planet and there is no VEN sub is avt mable between the 16:19:54 Hrs to 16:32:10 Hrs. Hence RAH is considered as tr tascendant sub lord. The RAH sub falls from 16:29:17 to 16:32:10 Hrs. Now before fixing the sub lord let us see the wife’s star. It is Punarpusa 3rd Pada (MER sign-JUP star). Between 16:29:17 to 16:30:06 Hrs 7th CSL falls asus see th froe’:3sta7 Hrsis wards MOO sub starts and MOO is occupied itwJen sign (in NATAL chart) which is his wife star. Hence I have selected 16:30:07 Hrs issubs correct birth time. > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > RP > > > > > > > > > > Sign > > > > Star > > > > Sub1 > > > > Sub2 > > > > > > ASC > > > > MAR > > > > SUN > > > > RAH® > > > > RAH® > > > > > > MOO > > > > JUP® > > > > SAT® > > > >> SR > > > > RAH® > >  > > Now for 16:30:07 hrs birth time, MOO pAH(tion JUP®-SAT® -M> MRAH( R) > >  > > Only MER is appearing is RP Asc Sign lord and JUP:30, SAT® areh tt directly connected. But in the birth Chart > > ® is in MOO-Mis MAR which appearing in RP ascendant hence SAT star is OK. > >  > > So his RBT is in:30:07 hrs > >  > > GOOD LUCK! > >  > > Thanks > >  > > D.Senthil > > > > > > > hen--- On Fri, 7/24/09, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: > > > > > GOOD > > > Senthil <athi_ram > > Re: Birth Time Rectifi_ram@ya > > > > @gro ups.com > > Friday, July 24,> > > M > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear MS chandra, > >  > > I have requested members who are sitting at various places  > > , UK, AUS, UAE etc) to do the exercise and to post the RP details for studyingo ae siations between the various RP's working around the world but none of them given. So at least RP fr sty judgment place is given below for information. > >  > > DOJ:25-07-2009 > > TOJ:10:45 hrs > > POJ:Seoul,South Korea > > GG.Lat. 37:nt 00 N > > GG.Lng. 127:03: 00 mat > GC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N > > Ayana 23:54:15 > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RP > > Sign > > Sta N > > > N > > ub1 > > Sub2 > > > > ASC > > MER > > MOO > > MAR > > RAH® > > > > MOO > > SUN > > VEN > > > > ® > > VEN > > > >  > > GOOD LUCK! > >  > > Thanks > >  > > D.SenthiER > > >  > > > > > > --- On Mon, 7/13/09, sathish> RAH(Ra <inf2sathish@ > wrote: > > Thank > > > >  > > > > > > sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > > > ndra <i: Birth Time Rectification > > @gro ups.com > > > > Monday, July 13, 2009, 5:26 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Member, > > > > I would be thankful to you All, > > Could you please Rectify My Brith Time to Micro Level I am Placing all my Lift Time Events. > > > > My DOB   : 30th Nov, 1976. > > Time         : 16:18 to 16:30 in between only. > > Place        : Hanamkonda : Andhra Pradesh : India > > Lattitude    : 018:10:00 > > Longitude   : 079:46:00 > > > > My Lift Events. > > > > 1) I am Elder Son after me 1 Sister 2 Brothers. > > 2) Education Gaps from 1994 to 1997 ( Worked earned some money) > > 3) Graduation Started in 1997 and Completed in 2000. > > 4) Post Graduation in IT 2000-20002 October. > > 5) Joined in SW Job 28th October, 2004 in Mumbai > > 6) Marriage : 10 Nov, 2005 Muhurth : 21:35 (Gemini Lagna) > > 7) My Wife : Born in Punarvasu 3rd Pada: Leo Ascendant : Date of Birth : 5th September,1980 Time : 05:05 am > > 8) My son Date of Birth : 8th March, 2007 at 10:26am Swathi, Tarus Asc > > 9) 21st May, 2007 Moved to Pune to new Job S/w > > 10) April, 24,2009 was my Last working day in My S/w Job. > > 11) 5th June, 2009 Moved to UK. > > > > Regards, > > MS chandra > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Dear Naidu ji, Rules are clear to predict some possibility. It doesn't work other way. Let us take an example of marriage. In a horoscope where I want to verify a sub lord, all nine planets are significators of 2,7, 11. Now how to ascertain the sub lord? We have also seen many cases in this forum itself where four fold significators alone has not given results and we have to use aspects (E grade significators) to those significators. In such case how we will verify? In my opinion, it is not easy as it is sounding when it comes to reverse engineer. We can do an exercise where we can check the validity of this verification process suggested by you. We can take known birth chart where we will not disclose birth details and ask for guessing the sub lord of say 7th house. Let us see if we can reverse engineer sub-lord based on known rules. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:57 PM, K. P. Naidu <konathalan wrote: Dear sri Punit Ji,Verification framework, I understand, is available in KP. We have clear Rules in KP to predict the life events like, marriage, job, progeny, foreign travel, sickness, hospitalisation, imprisonment, accident, etc., etc. The same rules , I understand, can be applied to verify the past life events.Of course Vimshottari based DBAS period may not change with slight changes in Birth Time, but Cuspla sublords and their star lords may change. Hence RBT must confirm all the past life events as per KP rules of prediction.Here, I can guess feeling/opinion/comment of some of our KP followers, that " it is not possible to confirm ALL the past life events with any RBT. " What are the probable reasons for such a practical experience. Either RBT may be wrong or verificagtion rules (KP) may still require improvement. A rationale approach and thinking is necessary. Open mindedness may be an essential prerequisite to conduct research in this regard. Thanks and Regards,Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Director (Finance) Retd., Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. --- On Fri, 31/7/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: Punit Pandey <punitpRe: Birth Time Rectification Friday, 31 July, 2009, 12:14 PM Dear Naidu ji, There are couple of theories and we had good discussion on these theories in the past. I have complied a list of all such theories and can be found at - http://logy. astrosage. com/Home/ recent-researche s#TOC-Birth- Time-Rectificati on I personally use only RP (As taught by Shri KSK) and event based rectification. I don't use any other theories mentioned in above article. Truly speaking I am very critical to all these theories and I continuously maintained that without any verification framework, we don't have any tool to verify which one is correct and which one is not. In my opinion, it is not fair to use the theories that can not be verified by an astrologer. Though this is my personal opinion and it doesn't stop anybody to use these theories. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:48 AM, K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear sri Punit Ji,One theory is comparing the Planets - RP Moon = Natal Asc, RP Asc = Natal Moon.Another Theory (as mentioned by you) is comparing Planet positions - RP Moon position = Natal Moon position, RP Asc position = Natal Asc position. Both the theories are RP based theories. RP based RBT theories may not give the same RBT at all times and at all places. Of course it is our endeavour to find out, through various theories, RBT nearer to ACTUAL BIRTH TIME which is always ONE and is known to God only. The traditional astrogers mostly and normally never worry about correct Birth Time. The correctness of Birth time is the most important in KP astrology due to reasons well known to all KP followers.The Bith Time which confirms the past life events of a native, as per KP rules, can safely be taken as correct and exact Birth Time. Thanks and Regds.K. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Wed, 29/7/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.com Wednesday, 29 July, 2009, 4:30 PM Dear Adith ji, I would not call " RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon? " a rule but a theory which is under observation. Truly speaking, I don't have much success with this theory. I have seen the present Moon position can tell either birth Moon position or birth Ascendant position, similarly for present Ascendant position. I believe more research is required on this theory. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:16 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear r.Senthil,Noted that your RBT is 16.30.07. with Asc-Mars-Sun- Rahu-Rahu !!!But where is the fulfillment of the said rules :RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?Asc.sublord= Moon starlord.? Asc. is fixed using the RPs and fixing the 7th CSL to match the wife's.But the Asc.sublord is Rahu should have connection to the Moon star lord, Saturn which is not present,I hope. which is the most impotant rule. (FYI: If you check my analysis , the Asc.RPs= is exactly the Birth Moon corulers). The Asc. sub was chosen either Sun,Moon, or Rahu. Out of which Sun was selected for the reason Sun is in the star of Saturn, the Moon star lord. The 7th CSL will be Venus in whose sign Jupiter(wife star) is located. Hope you can give your study on the analysis on RPS of the all the particpants the real task of this operationRegardsAdithwww.thebestastro. com On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Dear Ms Chandra Further to my E-mail below, the RBT which i have fixed based on the RP for my place is given with detailed analysis. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 NGG.Lng. 127:03: 00 EGC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN As per the given date/place and time between 16:18 to 16:30 the ascendant falls in MARS sign –SUN Star. Rule-1 ===== The RP ascendant sub lord will reveal the nature of query. Here the RP Asc sub lord is Mars. His question is about ascendant only. Hence the ascendant sign lord (Mars) is correct. Rule-2 ===== Birth Asc = RP Moon Birth Moo= RP Asc The SUN is RP Moon sign lord. The birth ascendant falls from 16:19:54 to 16:32:10 Hrs in SUN star. Hence Birth ascendant must be MAR-SUN. Now either VEN or RAH must be the sub lord. Node is stronger than planet and there is no VEN sub is available between the 16:19:54 Hrs to 16:32:10 Hrs. Hence RAH is considered as the ascendant sub lord. The RAH sub falls from 16:29:17 to 16:32:10 Hrs. Now before fixing the sub lord let us see the wife’s star. It is Punarpusa 3rd Pada (MER sign-JUP star). Between 16:29:17 to 16:30:06 Hrs 7th CSL falls as SUN and from 16:30:07 Hrs onwards MOO sub starts and MOO is occupied is JUP sign (in NATAL chart) which is his wife star. Hence I have selected 16:30:07 Hrs is his correct birth time. RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MAR SUN RAH® RAH® MOO JUP® SAT® MER RAH® Now for 16:30:07 hrs birth time, MOO position JUP®-SAT® -MER-RAH( R) Only MER is appearing is RP Asc Sign lord and JUP®, SAT® are not directly connected. But in the birth Chart SAT® is in MOO-MER-MAR which appearing in RP ascendant hence SAT star is OK. So his RBT is 16:30:07 hrs GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Fri, 7/24/09, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Senthil <athi_ram >Re: Birth Time Rectification @gro ups.com Friday, July 24, 2009, 9:30 PM Dear MS chandra, I have requested members who are sitting at various places (INDIA, UK, AUS, UAE etc) to do the exercise and to post the RP details for studying the relations between the various RP's working around the world but none of them given. So at least RP for my judgment place is given below for information. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 NGG.Lng. 127:03: 00 EGC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Mon, 7/13/09, sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > wrote: sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.com Monday, July 13, 2009, 5:26 AM Dear Member,I would be thankful to you All,Could you please Rectify My Brith Time to Micro Level I am Placing all my Lift Time Events.My DOB : 30th Nov, 1976.Time : 16:18 to 16:30 in between only. Place : Hanamkonda : Andhra Pradesh : IndiaLattitude : 018:10:00Longitude : 079:46:00My Lift Events.1) I am Elder Son after me 1 Sister 2 Brothers.2) Education Gaps from 1994 to 1997 ( Worked earned some money) 3) Graduation Started in 1997 and Completed in 2000. 4) Post Graduation in IT 2000-20002 October.5) Joined in SW Job 28th October, 2004 in Mumbai6) Marriage : 10 Nov, 2005 Muhurth : 21:35 (Gemini Lagna)7) My Wife : Born in Punarvasu 3rd Pada: Leo Ascendant : Date of Birth : 5th September,1980 Time : 05:05 am 8) My son Date of Birth : 8th March, 2007 at 10:26am Swathi, Tarus Asc 9) 21st May, 2007 Moved to Pune to new Job S/w10) April, 24,2009 was my Last working day in My S/w Job.11) 5th June, 2009 Moved to UK. Regards,MS chandra recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. Looking for local information? Find it on Local Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Dear Sir, With much hesitation I am writing this. A human/creature has past, pesent and future. The present is what he/it is already experiencing. So this is not so much important. The past is past. By knowing the past we cannot change nor it comes to any use in this life as for as prediction is concerned. Each and every customer is eager to know the future only. Our life span is like a drop in an ocean. History of Astrology is the evidence that it is being followed from the time of Munis and Rishis. We cannot calculate the age. Still we are not yet perfect to predict a future event in all cases. Hence it shall be meanningless to spend time and energy for knowing the past. Rather we should concentrate more and more on how to predict the future only. By predicting the future we may or may not avert any accident. But the person shall be mentally prepared to face or endure. One gets comfort and solace and may develop patience to wait till the good times come in life.So let all of us work together to find out the ways and means for correct prediction to help the humankind . With regards. Dr. Rath K. P. Naidu <konathalan Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 12:57:29 PMRe: Birth Time Rectification Dear sri Punit Ji,Verification framework, I understand, is available in KP. We have clear Rules in KP to predict the life events like, marriage, job, progeny, foreign travel, sickness, hospitalisation, imprisonment, accident, etc., etc. The same rules , I understand, can be applied to verify the past life events.Of course Vimshottari based DBAS period may not change with slight changes in Birth Time, but Cuspla sublords and their star lords may change.Hence RBT must confirm all the past life events as per KP rules of prediction.Here, I can guess feeling/opinion/ comment of some of our KP followers, that "it is not possible to confirm ALL the past life events with any RBT." What are the probable reasons for such a practical experience. Either RBT may be wrong or verificagtion rules (KP) may still require improvement. A rationale approach and thinking is necessary. Open mindedness may be an essential prerequisite to conduct research in this regard.Thanks and Regards,Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Director (Finance) Retd.,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Fri, 31/7/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.comFriday, 31 July, 2009, 12:14 PM Dear Naidu ji, There are couple of theories and we had good discussion on these theories in the past. I have complied a list of all such theories and can be found at - http://logy. astrosage. com/Home/ recent-researche s#TOC-Birth- Time-Rectificati on I personally use only RP (As taught by Shri KSK) and event based rectification. I don't use any other theories mentioned in above article. Truly speaking I am very critical to all these theories and I continuously maintained that without any verification framework, we don't have any tool to verify which one is correct and which one is not. In my opinion, it is not fair to use the theories that can not be verified by an astrologer. Though this is my personal opinion and it doesn't stop anybody to use these theories. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:48 AM, K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear sri Punit Ji,One theory is comparing the Planets - RP Moon = Natal Asc, RP Asc = Natal Moon.Another Theory (as mentioned by you) is comparing Planet positions - RP Moon position = Natal Moon position, RP Asc position = Natal Asc position. Both the theories are RP based theories. RP based RBT theories may not give the same RBT at all times and at all places. Of course it is our endeavour to find out, through various theories, RBT nearer to ACTUAL BIRTH TIME which is always ONE and is known to God only.The traditional astrogers mostly and normally never worry about correct Birth Time. The correctness of Birth time is the most important in KP astrology due to reasons well known to all KP followers.The Bith Time which confirms the past life events of a native, as per KP rules, can safely be taken as correct and exact Birth Time. Thanks and Regds.K. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Wed, 29/7/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.comWednesday, 29 July, 2009, 4:30 PM Dear Adith ji, I would not call "RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?" a rule but a theory which is under observation. Truly speaking, I don't have much success with this theory. I have seen the present Moon position can tell either birth Moon position or birth Ascendant position, similarly for present Ascendant position. I believe more research is required on this theory. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:16 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear r.Senthil,Noted that your RBT is 16.30.07. with Asc-Mars-Sun- Rahu-Rahu !!!But where is the fulfillment of the said rules :RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?Asc.sublord= Moon starlord.?Asc. is fixed using the RPs and fixing the 7th CSL to match the wife's.But the Asc.sublord is Rahu should have connection to the Moon star lord, Saturn which is not present,I hope. which is the most impotant rule.(FYI: If you check my analysis , the Asc.RPs= is exactly the Birth Moon corulers). The Asc. sub was chosen either Sun,Moon, or Rahu. Out of which Sun was selected for the reason Sun is in the star of Saturn, the Moon star lord. The 7th CSL will be Venus in whose sign Jupiter(wife star) is located.Hope you can give your study on the analysis on RPS of the all the particpants the real task of this operationRegardsAdithwww.thebestastro. com On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Dear Ms Chandra Further to my E-mail below, the RBT which i have fixed based on the RP for my place is given with detailed analysis. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 NGG.Lng. 127:03: 00 EGC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN As per the given date/place and time between 16:18 to 16:30 the ascendant falls in MARS sign –SUN Star. Rule-1 ===== The RP ascendant sub lord will reveal the nature of query. Here the RP Asc sub lord is Mars. His question is about ascendant only. Hence the ascendant sign lord (Mars) is correct. Rule-2 ===== Birth Asc = RP Moon Birth Moo= RP Asc The SUN is RP Moon sign lord. The birth ascendant falls from 16:19:54 to 16:32:10 Hrs in SUN star. Hence Birth ascendant must be MAR-SUN. Now either VEN or RAH must be the sub lord. Node is stronger than planet and there is no VEN sub is available between the 16:19:54 Hrs to 16:32:10 Hrs. Hence RAH is considered as the ascendant sub lord. The RAH sub falls from 16:29:17 to 16:32:10 Hrs. Now before fixing the sub lord let us see the wife’s star. It is Punarpusa 3rd Pada (MER sign-JUP star). Between 16:29:17 to 16:30:06 Hrs 7th CSL falls as SUN and from 16:30:07 Hrs onwards MOO sub starts and MOO is occupied is JUP sign (in NATAL chart) which is his wife star. Hence I have selected 16:30:07 Hrs is his correct birth time. RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MAR SUN RAH® RAH® MOO JUP® SAT® MER RAH® Now for 16:30:07 hrs birth time, MOO position JUP®-SAT® -MER-RAH( R) Only MER is appearing is RP Asc Sign lord and JUP®, SAT® are not directly connected. But in the birth Chart SAT® is in MOO-MER-MAR which appearing in RP ascendant hence SAT star is OK. So his RBT is 16:30:07 hrs GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Fri, 7/24/09, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Senthil <athi_ram >Re: Birth Time Rectification @gro ups.com Friday, July 24, 2009, 9:30 PM Dear MS chandra, I have requested members who are sitting at various places (INDIA, UK, AUS, UAE etc) to do the exercise and to post the RP details for studying the relations between the various RP's working around the world but none of them given. So at least RP for my judgment place is given below for information. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 NGG.Lng. 127:03: 00 EGC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Mon, 7/13/09, sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > wrote: sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.com Monday, July 13, 2009, 5:26 AM Dear Member,I would be thankful to you All,Could you please Rectify My Brith Time to Micro Level I am Placing all my Lift Time Events.My DOB : 30th Nov, 1976.Time : 16:18 to 16:30 in between only.Place : Hanamkonda : Andhra Pradesh : IndiaLattitude : 018:10:00Longitude : 079:46:00My Lift Events.1) I am Elder Son after me 1 Sister 2 Brothers.2) Education Gaps from 1994 to 1997 ( Worked earned some money)3) Graduation Started in 1997 and Completed in 2000. 4) Post Graduation in IT 2000-20002 October.5) Joined in SW Job 28th October, 2004 in Mumbai6) Marriage : 10 Nov, 2005 Muhurth : 21:35 (Gemini Lagna)7) My Wife : Born in Punarvasu 3rd Pada: Leo Ascendant : Date of Birth : 5th September,1980 Time : 05:05 am8) My son Date of Birth : 8th March, 2007 at 10:26am Swathi, Tarus Asc 9) 21st May, 2007 Moved to Pune to new Job S/w10) April, 24,2009 was my Last working day in My S/w Job.11) 5th June, 2009 Moved to UK.Regards,MS chandra recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. 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Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Dear Bohraji, You have mentioned that marriage took place in Merc-Sat-Sat-Sat-Mars period. May be your are right by corelating these planets with the sub lord of VII cusp. I have nothing to comment on other aspects.But did you find out the signifiers of II, VII ans XI? Did Mercury, Saturn and Mars appear as fruitful significators for marriage? I think they should also appear in the 5 grades of significators as per KP. Your response is awaited for. Dr. Rath msbohra62 <msbohra62 Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 5:38:20 PM Re: Birth Time Rectification Dear friends I have forget that movements of every Lagana is not the same as per lagana in two hours.Aries have fast speed in movement so the calculation for 2Degree and 33 Kala will be accordingly. It was the mistake in my first post in thread.Thanks,M.S.Bohra@gro ups.com, "msbohra62" <msbohra62@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Senthil ji,> > I am getting the right time of Birth is 16:27:20(In previous post something is wrong) where Ascendant is Sun(Sign)-Mars( SL)-Jupiter( Sub.L)-Ke( Sub-Sub.L) .For marriage we look for 7th CSL should have relation with 2nd,11th CSL.Here 7th CSL is Venus.Venus is in the star of Venus than we look for Sub lord which is Mercury.11th CSL is again Venus and 2nd CSL is Saturn.Saturn is in the star of Mercury.Saturn is the star of Mars.> > The Native have did the marriage on 10th Nov;2005.As above birth time at the time of marriage the Dasa period is Mer-Sat-Sat- Sat-Mars.> > Is this all give the indication that birth time is correct as above mentioned ?> > Please let me know i am on right way or wrong some where.> > Thanks,> > M.S.Bohra> > > > > @gro ups.com, Senthil <athi_ram@> wrote:> >> > Dear Punit,> >  > > You may please verify the birth time of the chart with urge and submit the RP at your place. Whatever time you fell as per your analysis also may be submitted. Your cooperation will help members to study how the RP works for diff place with different astrologer & the relations between them etc. > >  > > Can you please do the exercise for research purpose?> > > >  > > Thanks> >  > > D.Senthil> > > > > > --- On Wed, 7/29/09, Punit Pandey <punitp@> wrote:> > > > > > Punit Pandey <punitp@>> > Re: Birth Time Rectification> > @gro ups.com> > Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 4:00 AM> > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Adith ji,> >  > > I would not call "RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?" a rule but a theory which is under observation. Truly speaking, I don't have much success with this theory. I have seen the present Moon position can tell either birth Moon position or birth Ascendant position, similarly for present Ascendant position. > >  > > I believe more research is required on this theory. > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > Puni> > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:16 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear r> Dear l,> > > > Noted that yourhatT is 16.30.07. with07.c-Mars- Sun-ars-uun- u !!!> > > > But where is the fulfillment of the said rules :> > RP Moon= Nataln= c and RPc ac=Natal Moon?> > Mocn?> > Asd= Moonrd= Moond.?> > > >d.?c. is fixed using thesins and fixing the inh thL to match the wife's.> > But the Buc the Asd isbloru should have connection to the Moon star lord, Saturn which is not present,I hope. which is the mostthe mostt rule.> > > > (FYI: If you check my analysis , theis c ths= is exactly the Birth Moonrth Moons). Thers)c. sub was chosen either Sun,Moon, orMoonu. Out of which Sun was selected for the reason Sun is in the star of Saturn, the Moon star lord. The rdh ThL will be Venus in whose sign Jupiter(wife star) is located.> > > > Hope you can give your study on the analysis on RPS of the all the all the pas the real task of this operation> > > > Regards> >egardh> > wwwth> > www.theo. com > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote:> > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ms Chandra> >  > > Further to my E-mail below, tbel RBT which i have fixed based on the RP for my place is given with detailed analysis.> > > >is.> > DOJ:25-07-2025-> > TOJ:10:45 hrs > > POJ:Seoul,South Korea > > GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 N> > GG.Lng. 127:03: 00 E> > GC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N > > Ayana 23:54:15 > >  > >  > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > RP> > > > Sign> > > > Star> > > > Sub1> > > > Sub2> >> S> > > > > > > > > > ASC> > > > MER> > > > MOO> > > > MAR> > > > RAH®> > > > > > > > > > > > SUN> > > > VEN> > > > > RAH®> > > > VEN> >  > > As per the given date/place and time between 16:18 to 16:30 the ascendant falls in MARS sign â€"SUN Star. > > > > > > Rule-1 > > ===== > > The RP ascendant sub lord will reveal the nature of queryque> >  > rect. > >  > > Rule-2 > > ===== > > Birth Asc = RP Moon > > Birth Moo= RP Asc > >  > > The SUN is RP Moon sign lord. The birth ascendan > >alls from 16:19:54 to 16:32:c =Hrs in SUN star. Hence Birth ascendant must be MAR-SUN. Now either VEN or RAH must be the sub lord. Node is stronger than planet and there is no VEN sub is avt mable between the 16:19:54 Hrs to 16:32:10 Hrs. Hence RAH is considered as tr tascendant sub lord. The RAH sub falls from 16:29:17 to 16:32:10 Hrs. Now before fixing the sub lord let us see the wife’s star. It is Punarpusa 3rd Pada (MER sign-JUP star). Between 16:29:17 to 16:30:06 Hrs 7th CSL falls asus see th froe’:3sta7 Hrsis wards MOO sub starts and MOO is occupied itwJen sign (in NATAL chart) which is his wife star. Hence I have selected 16:30:07 Hrs issubs correct birth time. > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > RP> > > > > > > > > > Sign> > > > Star> > > > Sub1> > > > Sub2> > > > > > ASC> > > > MAR> > > > SUN> > > > RAH®> > > > RAH®> > > > > > MOO> > > > JUP®> > > > SAT®> > > >> SR> > > > RAH®> >  > > Now for 16:30:07 hrs birth time, MOO pAH(tion JUP®-SAT® -M> MRAH( R) > >  > > Only MER is appearing is RP Asc Sign lord and JUP:30, SAT® areh tt directly connected. But in the birth Chart > > ® is in MOO-Mis MAR which appearing in RP ascendant hence SAT star is OK. > >  > > So his RBT is in:30:07 hrs > >  > > GOOD LUCK! > >  > > Thanks > >  > > D.Senthil> > > > > > > hen--- On Fri, 7/24/09, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote:> > > > > GOOD> > > Senthil <athi_ram@.. .> > Re: Birth Time Rectifi_ram@ ya> > > > @gro ups.com> > Friday, July 24,>> > M> > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear MS chandra,> >  > > I have requested members who are sitting at various places  > > , UK, AUS, UAE etc) to do the exercise and to post the RP details for studyingo ae siations between the various RP's working around the world but none of them given. So at least RP fr sty judgment place is given below for information.> >  > > DOJ:25-07-2009> > TOJ:10:45 hrs> > POJ:Seoul,South Korea> > GG.Lat. 37:nt 00 N> > GG.Lng. 127:03: 00 mat> GC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N> > Ayana 23:54:15> >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RP> > Sign> > Sta N> > > N> > ub1> > Sub2> > > > ASC> > MER> > MOO> > MAR> > RAH®> > > > MOO> > SUN> > VEN> > > > ®> > VEN> > > >  > > GOOD LUCK!> >  > > Thanks> >  > > D.SenthiER> > >  > > > > > > --- On Mon, 7/13/09, sathish> RAH(Ra <inf2sathish@ > wrote:> > Thank> > > >  > >> > > > sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ >> > ndra <i: Birth Time Rectification> > @gro ups.com > > > > Monday, July 13, 2009, 5:26 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Member,> > > > I would be thankful to you All,> > Could you please Rectify My Brith Time to Micro Level I am Placing all my Lift Time Events.> > > > My DOB   : 30th Nov, 1976.> > Time         : 16:18 to 16:30 in between only.> > Place        : Hanamkonda : Andhra Pradesh : India> > Lattitude    : 018:10:00> > Longitude   : 079:46:00> > > > My Lift Events.> > > > 1) I am Elder Son after me 1 Sister 2 Brothers.> > 2) Education Gaps from 1994 to 1997 ( Worked earned some money)> > 3) Graduation Started in 1997 and Completed in 2000. > > 4) Post Graduation in IT 2000-20002 October.> > 5) Joined in SW Job 28th October, 2004 in Mumbai> > 6) Marriage : 10 Nov, 2005 Muhurth : 21:35 (Gemini Lagna)> > 7) My Wife : Born in Punarvasu 3rd Pada: Leo Ascendant : Date of Birth : 5th September,1980 Time : 05:05 am> > 8) My son Date of Birth : 8th March, 2007 at 10:26am Swathi, Tarus Asc > > 9) 21st May, 2007 Moved to Pune to new Job S/w> > 10) April, 24,2009 was my Last working day in My S/w Job.> > 11) 5th June, 2009 Moved to UK.> > > > Regards,> > MS chandra> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Dear Naiduji, I am extremely sorry for mis-interpreting your wordings.I read your phrase "past life events" as events of past life. I should have read it as past events of life. I beg apology for the mistake. Dr. Rath Punit Pandey <punitp Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 6:44:58 PMRe: Birth Time Rectification Dear Naidu ji, Rules are clear to predict some possibility. It doesn't work other way. Let us take an example of marriage. In a horoscope where I want to verify a sub lord, all nine planets are significators of 2,7, 11. Now how to ascertain the sub lord? We have also seen many cases in this forum itself where four fold significators alone has not given results and we have to use aspects (E grade significators) to those significators. In such case how we will verify? In my opinion, it is not easy as it is sounding when it comes to reverse engineer. We can do an exercise where we can check the validity of this verification process suggested by you. We can take known birth chart where we will not disclose birth details and ask for guessing the sub lord of say 7th house. Let us see if we can reverse engineer sub-lord based on known rules. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:57 PM, K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear sri Punit Ji,Verification framework, I understand, is available in KP. We have clear Rules in KP to predict the life events like, marriage, job, progeny, foreign travel, sickness, hospitalisation, imprisonment, accident, etc., etc. The same rules , I understand, can be applied to verify the past life events.Of course Vimshottari based DBAS period may not change with slight changes in Birth Time, but Cuspla sublords and their star lords may change.Hence RBT must confirm all the past life events as per KP rules of prediction.Here, I can guess feeling/opinion/ comment of some of our KP followers, that "it is not possible to confirm ALL the past life events with any RBT." What are the probable reasons for such a practical experience. Either RBT may be wrong or verificagtion rules (KP) may still require improvement. A rationale approach and thinking is necessary. Open mindedness may be an essential prerequisite to conduct research in this regard.Thanks and Regards,Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Director (Finance) Retd., Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. --- On Fri, 31/7/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.comFriday, 31 July, 2009, 12:14 PM Dear Naidu ji, There are couple of theories and we had good discussion on these theories in the past. I have complied a list of all such theories and can be found at - http://logy. astrosage. com/Home/ recent-researche s#TOC-Birth- Time-Rectificati on I personally use only RP (As taught by Shri KSK) and event based rectification. I don't use any other theories mentioned in above article. Truly speaking I am very critical to all these theories and I continuously maintained that without any verification framework, we don't have any tool to verify which one is correct and which one is not. In my opinion, it is not fair to use the theories that can not be verified by an astrologer. Though this is my personal opinion and it doesn't stop anybody to use these theories. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:48 AM, K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear sri Punit Ji,One theory is comparing the Planets - RP Moon = Natal Asc, RP Asc = Natal Moon.Another Theory (as mentioned by you) is comparing Planet positions - RP Moon position = Natal Moon position, RP Asc position = Natal Asc position. Both the theories are RP based theories. RP based RBT theories may not give the same RBT at all times and at all places. Of course it is our endeavour to find out, through various theories, RBT nearer to ACTUAL BIRTH TIME which is always ONE and is known to God only.The traditional astrogers mostly and normally never worry about correct Birth Time. The correctness of Birth time is the most important in KP astrology due to reasons well known to all KP followers.The Bith Time which confirms the past life events of a native, as per KP rules, can safely be taken as correct and exact Birth Time. Thanks and Regds.K. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Wed, 29/7/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.com Wednesday, 29 July, 2009, 4:30 PM Dear Adith ji, I would not call "RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?" a rule but a theory which is under observation. Truly speaking, I don't have much success with this theory. I have seen the present Moon position can tell either birth Moon position or birth Ascendant position, similarly for present Ascendant position. I believe more research is required on this theory. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:16 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear r.Senthil,Noted that your RBT is 16.30.07. with Asc-Mars-Sun- Rahu-Rahu !!!But where is the fulfillment of the said rules :RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?Asc.sublord= Moon starlord.?Asc. is fixed using the RPs and fixing the 7th CSL to match the wife's.But the Asc.sublord is Rahu should have connection to the Moon star lord, Saturn which is not present,I hope. which is the most impotant rule.(FYI: If you check my analysis , the Asc.RPs= is exactly the Birth Moon corulers). The Asc. sub was chosen either Sun,Moon, or Rahu. Out of which Sun was selected for the reason Sun is in the star of Saturn, the Moon star lord. The 7th CSL will be Venus in whose sign Jupiter(wife star) is located.Hope you can give your study on the analysis on RPS of the all the particpants the real task of this operationRegardsAdithwww.thebestastro. com On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Dear Ms Chandra Further to my E-mail below, the RBT which i have fixed based on the RP for my place is given with detailed analysis. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 NGG.Lng. 127:03: 00 EGC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN As per the given date/place and time between 16:18 to 16:30 the ascendant falls in MARS sign –SUN Star. Rule-1 ===== The RP ascendant sub lord will reveal the nature of query. Here the RP Asc sub lord is Mars. His question is about ascendant only. Hence the ascendant sign lord (Mars) is correct. Rule-2 ===== Birth Asc = RP Moon Birth Moo= RP Asc The SUN is RP Moon sign lord. The birth ascendant falls from 16:19:54 to 16:32:10 Hrs in SUN star. Hence Birth ascendant must be MAR-SUN. Now either VEN or RAH must be the sub lord. Node is stronger than planet and there is no VEN sub is available between the 16:19:54 Hrs to 16:32:10 Hrs. Hence RAH is considered as the ascendant sub lord. The RAH sub falls from 16:29:17 to 16:32:10 Hrs. Now before fixing the sub lord let us see the wife’s star. It is Punarpusa 3rd Pada (MER sign-JUP star). Between 16:29:17 to 16:30:06 Hrs 7th CSL falls as SUN and from 16:30:07 Hrs onwards MOO sub starts and MOO is occupied is JUP sign (in NATAL chart) which is his wife star. Hence I have selected 16:30:07 Hrs is his correct birth time. RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MAR SUN RAH® RAH® MOO JUP® SAT® MER RAH® Now for 16:30:07 hrs birth time, MOO position JUP®-SAT® -MER-RAH( R) Only MER is appearing is RP Asc Sign lord and JUP®, SAT® are not directly connected. But in the birth Chart SAT® is in MOO-MER-MAR which appearing in RP ascendant hence SAT star is OK. So his RBT is 16:30:07 hrs GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Fri, 7/24/09, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Senthil <athi_ram >Re: Birth Time Rectification @gro ups.com Friday, July 24, 2009, 9:30 PM Dear MS chandra, I have requested members who are sitting at various places (INDIA, UK, AUS, UAE etc) to do the exercise and to post the RP details for studying the relations between the various RP's working around the world but none of them given. So at least RP for my judgment place is given below for information. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 NGG.Lng. 127:03: 00 EGC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Mon, 7/13/09, sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > wrote: sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.com Monday, July 13, 2009, 5:26 AM Dear Member,I would be thankful to you All,Could you please Rectify My Brith Time to Micro Level I am Placing all my Lift Time Events.My DOB : 30th Nov, 1976.Time : 16:18 to 16:30 in between only.Place : Hanamkonda : Andhra Pradesh : IndiaLattitude : 018:10:00Longitude : 079:46:00My Lift Events.1) I am Elder Son after me 1 Sister 2 Brothers.2) Education Gaps from 1994 to 1997 ( Worked earned some money)3) Graduation Started in 1997 and Completed in 2000. 4) Post Graduation in IT 2000-20002 October.5) Joined in SW Job 28th October, 2004 in Mumbai6) Marriage : 10 Nov, 2005 Muhurth : 21:35 (Gemini Lagna)7) My Wife : Born in Punarvasu 3rd Pada: Leo Ascendant : Date of Birth : 5th September,1980 Time : 05:05 am8) My son Date of Birth : 8th March, 2007 at 10:26am Swathi, Tarus Asc 9) 21st May, 2007 Moved to Pune to new Job S/w10) April, 24,2009 was my Last working day in My S/w Job.11) 5th June, 2009 Moved to UK.Regards,MS chandra recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. 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Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Dear Punit, Please post some known data and ask the members to findout. Any events may be given for birth time verification. Hope the members will agree. Thanks D.Senthil --- On Fri, 7/31/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: Punit Pandey <punitpRe: Birth Time Rectification Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 6:14 AM Dear Naidu ji, Rules are clear to predict some possibility. It doesn't work other way. Let us take an example of marriage. In a horoscope where I want to verify a sub lord, all nine planets are significators of 2,7, 11. Now how to ascertain the sub lord? We have also seen many cases in this forum itself where four fold significators alone has not given results and we have to use aspects (E grade significators) to those significators. In such case how we will verify? In my opinion, it is not easy as it is sounding when it comes to reverse engineer. We can do an exercise where we can check the validity of this verification process suggested by you. We can take known birth chart where we will not disclose birth details and ask for guessing the sub lord of say 7th house. Let us see if we can reverse engineer sub-lord based on known rules. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:57 PM, K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear sri Punit Ji,Verification framework, I understand, is available in KP. We have clear Rules in KP to predict the life events like, marriage, job, progeny, foreign travel, sickness, hospitalisation, imprisonment, accident, etc., etc. The same rules , I understand, can be applied to verify the past life events.Of course Vimshottari based DBAS period may not change with slight changes in Birth Time, but Cuspla sublords and their star lords may change.Hence RBT must confirm all the past life events as per KP rules of prediction.Here, I can guess feeling/opinion/ comment of some of our KP followers, that "it is not possible to confirm ALL the past life events with any RBT." What are the probable reasons for such a practical experience. Either RBT may be wrong or verificagtion rules (KP) may still require improvement. A rationale approach and thinking is necessary. Open mindedness may be an essential prerequisite to conduct research in this regard.Thanks and Regards,Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Director (Finance) Retd., Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. --- On Fri, 31/7/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.comFriday, 31 July, 2009, 12:14 PM Dear Naidu ji, There are couple of theories and we had good discussion on these theories in the past. I have complied a list of all such theories and can be found at - http://logy. astrosage. com/Home/ recent-researche s#TOC-Birth- Time-Rectificati on I personally use only RP (As taught by Shri KSK) and event based rectification. I don't use any other theories mentioned in above article. Truly speaking I am very critical to all these theories and I continuously maintained that without any verification framework, we don't have any tool to verify which one is correct and which one is not. In my opinion, it is not fair to use the theories that can not be verified by an astrologer. Though this is my personal opinion and it doesn't stop anybody to use these theories. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:48 AM, K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear sri Punit Ji,One theory is comparing the Planets - RP Moon = Natal Asc, RP Asc = Natal Moon.Another Theory (as mentioned by you) is comparing Planet positions - RP Moon position = Natal Moon position, RP Asc position = Natal Asc position. Both the theories are RP based theories. RP based RBT theories may not give the same RBT at all times and at all places. Of course it is our endeavour to find out, through various theories, RBT nearer to ACTUAL BIRTH TIME which is always ONE and is known to God only.The traditional astrogers mostly and normally never worry about correct Birth Time. The correctness of Birth time is the most important in KP astrology due to reasons well known to all KP followers.The Bith Time which confirms the past life events of a native, as per KP rules, can safely be taken as correct and exact Birth Time. Thanks and Regds.K. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Wed, 29/7/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.com Wednesday, 29 July, 2009, 4:30 PM Dear Adith ji, I would not call "RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?" a rule but a theory which is under observation. Truly speaking, I don't have much success with this theory. I have seen the present Moon position can tell either birth Moon position or birth Ascendant position, similarly for present Ascendant position. I believe more research is required on this theory. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:16 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear r.Senthil,Noted that your RBT is 16.30.07. with Asc-Mars-Sun- Rahu-Rahu !!!But where is the fulfillment of the said rules :RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?Asc.sublord= Moon starlord.?Asc. is fixed using the RPs and fixing the 7th CSL to match the wife's.But the Asc.sublord is Rahu should have connection to the Moon star lord, Saturn which is not present,I hope. which is the most impotant rule.(FYI: If you check my analysis , the Asc.RPs= is exactly the Birth Moon corulers). The Asc. sub was chosen either Sun,Moon, or Rahu. Out of which Sun was selected for the reason Sun is in the star of Saturn, the Moon star lord. The 7th CSL will be Venus in whose sign Jupiter(wife star) is located.Hope you can give your study on the analysis on RPS of the all the particpants the real task of this operationRegardsAdithwww.thebestastro. com On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Dear Ms Chandra Further to my E-mail below, the RBT which i have fixed based on the RP for my place is given with detailed analysis. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 NGG.Lng. 127:03: 00 EGC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN As per the given date/place and time between 16:18 to 16:30 the ascendant falls in MARS sign –SUN Star. Rule-1 ===== The RP ascendant sub lord will reveal the nature of query. Here the RP Asc sub lord is Mars. His question is about ascendant only. Hence the ascendant sign lord (Mars) is correct. Rule-2 ===== Birth Asc = RP Moon Birth Moo= RP Asc The SUN is RP Moon sign lord. The birth ascendant falls from 16:19:54 to 16:32:10 Hrs in SUN star. Hence Birth ascendant must be MAR-SUN. Now either VEN or RAH must be the sub lord. Node is stronger than planet and there is no VEN sub is available between the 16:19:54 Hrs to 16:32:10 Hrs. Hence RAH is considered as the ascendant sub lord. The RAH sub falls from 16:29:17 to 16:32:10 Hrs. Now before fixing the sub lord let us see the wife’s star. It is Punarpusa 3rd Pada (MER sign-JUP star). Between 16:29:17 to 16:30:06 Hrs 7th CSL falls as SUN and from 16:30:07 Hrs onwards MOO sub starts and MOO is occupied is JUP sign (in NATAL chart) which is his wife star. Hence I have selected 16:30:07 Hrs is his correct birth time. RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MAR SUN RAH® RAH® MOO JUP® SAT® MER RAH® Now for 16:30:07 hrs birth time, MOO position JUP®-SAT® -MER-RAH( R) Only MER is appearing is RP Asc Sign lord and JUP®, SAT® are not directly connected. But in the birth Chart SAT® is in MOO-MER-MAR which appearing in RP ascendant hence SAT star is OK. So his RBT is 16:30:07 hrs GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Fri, 7/24/09, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Senthil <athi_ram >Re: Birth Time Rectification @gro ups.com Friday, July 24, 2009, 9:30 PM Dear MS chandra, I have requested members who are sitting at various places (INDIA, UK, AUS, UAE etc) to do the exercise and to post the RP details for studying the relations between the various RP's working around the world but none of them given. So at least RP for my judgment place is given below for information. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 NGG.Lng. 127:03: 00 EGC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Mon, 7/13/09, sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > wrote: sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.com Monday, July 13, 2009, 5:26 AM Dear Member,I would be thankful to you All,Could you please Rectify My Brith Time to Micro Level I am Placing all my Lift Time Events.My DOB : 30th Nov, 1976.Time : 16:18 to 16:30 in between only.Place : Hanamkonda : Andhra Pradesh : IndiaLattitude : 018:10:00Longitude : 079:46:00My Lift Events.1) I am Elder Son after me 1 Sister 2 Brothers.2) Education Gaps from 1994 to 1997 ( Worked earned some money)3) Graduation Started in 1997 and Completed in 2000. 4) Post Graduation in IT 2000-20002 October.5) Joined in SW Job 28th October, 2004 in Mumbai6) Marriage : 10 Nov, 2005 Muhurth : 21:35 (Gemini Lagna)7) My Wife : Born in Punarvasu 3rd Pada: Leo Ascendant : Date of Birth : 5th September,1980 Time : 05:05 am8) My son Date of Birth : 8th March, 2007 at 10:26am Swathi, Tarus Asc 9) 21st May, 2007 Moved to Pune to new Job S/w10) April, 24,2009 was my Last working day in My S/w Job.11) 5th June, 2009 Moved to UK.Regards,MS chandra recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. 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Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Dear Dr.Rath, I am new student in Kp astrology but what i have understand,i will try to explain here. 1.CSL of 7th at least must be significant of any 2,7,11 than marriage will be happened. Here 7th CSL is Venus which lord of 2nd and 7th so Venus is significator of these group for marriage and Venus is posited in his star ,if any planet posited in own star than we take Sub lord as star of that planet,here mercury is Sub lord of Venus. again the CSL of 11th is Venus here. 2.For marriage Mahadasha lord should significator of any 2,7,11 cusp along with the Sub lord of that Mahadasha lord should be significant of any 2,7,11 cusp, than the marriage will be happened in the Mohandas of that planet. Here Mohandas lord is mercury which posited in his own star and Sub of Jupiter.So we will take Jupiter as the star of Mercury and Jupiter is posited in 2 cusp.Mars is Sub-Sub lord of Mercury so it will play the role of Sub lord and it is posited in Saturn star which is 11th lord. As i have understand about significant of any cusp are should be as :- 1.Significance of any cusp,Posited planet in Star lord of posited planet in cusp. 2.Posited planet in cusp. 3.Posited planet in the star of cusps lord. 4.Cusps lord. 5.Any 'Yukti " with above planets. 6.Any relation be " Drashti-Sabhand " by any planet as above significant. Dr.Rath, may be i am wrong to apply the rule of KP because i am in learning period,you can correct me as guide line to me.I will be happy to learn by you. Thanks, M.S.Bohra , Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: > > Dear Bohraji, > You have mentioned that marriage took place in Merc-Sat-Sat-Sat-Mars period. May be your are right by corelating these planets with the sub lord of VII cusp. I have nothing to comment on other aspects.But did you find out the signifiers of II, VII ans XI? Did Mercury, Saturn and Mars appear as fruitful significators for marriage? I think they should also appear in the 5 grades of significators as per KP. Your response is awaited for. > Dr. Rath > > > > > ________________________________ > msbohra62 <msbohra62 > > Friday, July 31, 2009 5:38:20 PM > Re: Birth Time Rectification > >  > Dear friends > > I have forget that movements of every Lagana is not the same as per lagana in two hours.Aries have fast speed in movement so the calculation for 2Degree and 33 Kala will be accordingly. It was the mistake in my first post in thread. > > Thanks, > > M.S.Bohra > > @gro ups.com, " msbohra62 " <msbohra62@ ..> wrote: > > > > Dear Senthil ji, > > > > I am getting the right time of Birth is 16:27:20(In previous post something is wrong) where Ascendant is Sun(Sign)-Mars( SL)-Jupiter( Sub.L)-Ke( Sub-Sub.L) ..For marriage we look for 7th CSL should have relation with 2nd,11th CSL.Here 7th CSL is Venus.Venus is in the star of Venus than we look for Sub lord which is Mercury.11th CSL is again Venus and 2nd CSL is Saturn.Saturn is in the star of Mercury.Saturn is the star of Mars. > > > > The Native have did the marriage on 10th Nov;2005.As above birth time at the time of marriage the Dasa period is Mer-Sat-Sat- Sat-Mars. > > > > Is this all give the indication that birth time is correct as above mentioned ? > > > > Please let me know i am on right way or wrong some where. > > > > Thanks, > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Senthil <athi_ram@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Punit, > > >  > > > You may please verify the birth time of the chart with urge and submit the RP at your place. Whatever time you fell as per your analysis also may be submitted. Your cooperation will help members to study how the RP works for diff place with different astrologer & the relations between them etc. > > >  > > > Can you please do the exercise for research purpose? > > > > > >  > > > Thanks > > >  > ‚ > > > D.Senthil > > > > > > > > > d, 77n9/09,,729/09,, Punit Pandey <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > > > m:> Punit Pandey <punitp@> > > > Re:] B Birth Time rth Time Rectification > > > @gro ups.com > > > Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 4:00 AM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Adith ji, > > >  > > > I would not = = N " RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon? " a rule but a theory which is under observation. Truly speaking, I don't have much success with this theory. I have seen the present Moon position can tell either birth Moon position or birth Ascendant position, similarly for present Ascendant position. > > >  > > > I believe more research is required on this theory. > > > & & R Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Puni > > > > > > > > > > >ul ul 29Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:16 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > l, > > > Dear l, > > > > > > Noted that6.36.37.07is 16.30.07. with07.c-Mars- Sun-ars-uun- u !!! > > > > > > But where is the fuf thei > d r tes : > ules : >nd RatP Moond ld oln= ctal> Monoon? >> MoMoon? > > > Mocn? > > > A > > >nrd= > > > > > > > > > > > >d.sinsins ixed using thesins and fixing > > > tfe' . > > >> > > wife's. > > > But the Buc the Asd isbloru should have con star lord,the Moon star lord, Saresent,s hope hopepresent,I hopethe mostt rthe mostthe myo tcheleI: If y u yo cheFYI: If you check cy the ths= , theithey the is exactly the Birth Moonrth Mwas chos cho)c. sub was chosen either Sun,Moon, orMoonu. Out of ed d for tn was selected for the reason Sun rn,ithern,sthe of Saturn, the Moon star lord. The rdh ThL will be Venus in whose sign Jupiter(wife star) is located. > > > > > > Hope you can give your study on the analysis on RPSe pas e all the all th > > ope real eg > n > > gardgt> Reg > >gard gard> gardgards > > >egardh > > > wwwth > > > www.theo. com > > > > > > > > > e, Jul > e, Jul > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ms Ch> > a Fu> >  > > > Further to my E-mail below, tbel RBT which i have fixed based on the RP for my place is given with detaile > nalysis. > > > > 5-0is. > > > DOJ:25-07-2025- > > > TOJ:10:45 hrs > > > POJ:Seoul,South Korea > > > GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 127: > GG.Lng. 127:03: 00 E > > > GC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N > > > Ayana 23:54:15 > > >  > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RP > > > > > > Sign > > > > > > ub1r > > > > > >Subb1 > > > > > > Sub2 > > >> S > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASC > > > > > > MER > > > > > > MOO > > > > > > MAR > > > > > > RAH® > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SUN > > > > > > VEN > > > > > > > > RAH® > > > > > > VEN > > >  > > > As per the given date/place and time between 16:18 to 16:30 the ascendant falls in MARS sign †" SUN Star. > > > > > > > > > Rule-1 The > ===== > > > The RP ascendant sub lord will revearyqhe nature of queryque > > >   > rect. > > >  > > > Rule-2 > > > ===== > > > B> > > Bi = RP Moon > > > Birth Moo= RP Asc > > >  > > > The SUN is RP Moon sign lord. The birth ascendan :54 >alls from 16:19:54 to 16:32:c =Hrs in SUN star. Hence Birth ascendant musthee MAR-SU RAN mustther VEN or RAH must be the sub lord. Node is stronger than planet and th avt mableVEN sub is avt mable between the 16:19:54 Hrs to 16:32:10 Hrs. Hence RAH is considered as tr tascendant sufallsd. The RAH sub falls from 16:2. No tbef6:32:1xinrs. Now before fixing the sub lord let us s etare wifeà Punâ„¢s star. It is PER rpgn-JUrd Pada (MER sign-JUP star). Between 16:297th CS 16:30:06 Hrs 7th CSL falls asus see th froe’:3sta7 Hrsis wards MOO sub starts and MOO is occupied itwJen sign (in NATAL chart) which is his wife star. Hence I have selected 16:30:07 Hrs issubs correct birth time. > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sign > > > > > > Star > > > > > > Sub1 > > > > > > Sub2 > > > > > > >> M> ASC > > > > > > MAR > > > > > > SUN > > > > > > RAH® > > > > > > RAH® > > > > > > > > > MOO > > > > > > SAT® > > > > > > SAT® > > > > > >> SR > > > > > > RAH® > > >  > > > Now for 16:30:07 hrs birth time, MOO pAH(tion JUP®-SAT® -M> MRAH( R) > > >  > > > Only MER is appearing is RP Asc Sign lord and JUP:30, SAT® areh tt directly connected. But in the birth Chart > > > ® is in MOO-Mis MAR which appearing in RP ascendant hence SAT star is OK. > > >  > > > So his RBT is in:30:07 hrs > > >  > > > GOOD LUCK! > > >  > > > Thanks > > >  > > > D.Senthil > > > > > > > > > > > hen--- On Fri, 7/24/09, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: > > > > > > > > GOOD > > > > > Senthil <athi_ram@ . > > > Re: Birth Time Rectifi_ram@ ya > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > Friday, July 24,> > > > M > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear MS chandra, > > >  > > > I have requested members who are sitting at various places  > > > , UK, AUS, UAE etc) to do the exercise and to post the RP details for studyingo ae siations between the various RP's working around the world but none of them given. So at least RP fr sty judgment place is given below for information. > > >  > > > DOJ:25-07-2009 > > > TOJ:10:45 hrs > > > POJ:Seoul,South Korea > > > GG.Lat. 37:nt 00 N > > > GG.Lng. 127:03: 00 mat > > GC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N > > > Ayana 23:54:15 > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RP > > > Sign > > > Sta N > > > > >  N > > > ub1 > > > Sub2 > > > > > > ASC > > > MER > > > MOO > > > MAR > > > RAH® > > > > > > MOO > > > SUN > > > VEN > > > > > > ® > > > VEN > > > > > >  > > > GOOD LUCK! > > >  > > > Thanks > > >  > > > D.SenthiER > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 7/13/09, sathish> RAH(Ra <inf2sathish@ > wrote: > > > Thank > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > > > > ndra <i: Birth Time Rectification > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > Monday, July 13, 2009, 5:26 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Member, > > > > > > I would be thankful to you All, > > > Could you please Rectify My Brith Time to Micro Level I am Placing all my Lift Time Events. > > > > > > My DOB   : 30th Nov, 1976. > > > Time         : 16:18 to 16:30 in between only. > > > Place        : Hanamkonda : Andhra Pradesh : India > > > Lattitude    : 018:10:00 > > > Longitude   : 079:46:00 > > > > > > My Lift Events. > > > > > > 1) I am Elder Son after me 1 Sister 2 Brothers. > > > 2) Education Gaps from 1994 to 1997 ( Worked earned some money) > > > 3) Graduation Started in 1997 and Completed in 2000. > > > 4) Post Graduation in IT 2000-20002 October. > > > 5) Joined in SW Job 28th October, 2004 in Mumbai > > > 6) Marriage : 10 Nov, 2005 Muhurth : 21:35 (Gemini Lagna) > > > 7) My Wife : Born in Punarvasu 3rd Pada: Leo Ascendant : Date of Birth : 5th September,1980 Time : 05:05 am > > > 8) My son Date of Birth : 8th March, 2007 at 10:26am Swathi, Tarus Asc > > > 9) 21st May, 2007 Moved to Pune to new Job S/w > > > 10) April, 24,2009 was my Last working day in My S/w Job. > > > 11) 5th June, 2009 Moved to UK. > > > > > > Regards, > > > MS chandra > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Dear shree PunitJi, Astrology is in evolutionary process. Our knowledge is incomplete. Guruji has shown us some direction. Continuous research is required in that direction. Four step theory, Intercuspal link theory, KB theory, etc., are some of the outcomes of research. A rationale and unbiased approach, free from dogmatic convictions are the essential prerequisites in making such efforts.Man is in pursuit of TRUTH as Gandhiji said. Thanks & Regards, Naidu KP K. P. Naidu,Director (Finance) Retd. Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Fri, 31/7/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: Punit Pandey <punitpRe: Birth Time Rectification Date: Friday, 31 July, 2009, 6:44 PM Dear Naidu ji, Rules are clear to predict some possibility. It doesn't work other way. Let us take an example of marriage. In a horoscope where I want to verify a sub lord, all nine planets are significators of 2,7, 11. Now how to ascertain the sub lord? We have also seen many cases in this forum itself where four fold significators alone has not given results and we have to use aspects (E grade significators) to those significators. In such case how we will verify? In my opinion, it is not easy as it is sounding when it comes to reverse engineer. We can do an exercise where we can check the validity of this verification process suggested by you. We can take known birth chart where we will not disclose birth details and ask for guessing the sub lord of say 7th house. Let us see if we can reverse engineer sub-lord based on known rules. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:57 PM, K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear sri Punit Ji,Verification framework, I understand, is available in KP. We have clear Rules in KP to predict the life events like, marriage, job, progeny, foreign travel, sickness, hospitalisation, imprisonment, accident, etc., etc. The same rules , I understand, can be applied to verify the past life events.Of course Vimshottari based DBAS period may not change with slight changes in Birth Time, but Cuspla sublords and their star lords may change.Hence RBT must confirm all the past life events as per KP rules of prediction.Here, I can guess feeling/opinion/ comment of some of our KP followers, that "it is not possible to confirm ALL the past life events with any RBT." What are the probable reasons for such a practical experience. Either RBT may be wrong or verificagtion rules (KP) may still require improvement. A rationale approach and thinking is necessary. Open mindedness may be an essential prerequisite to conduct research in this regard.Thanks and Regards,Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Director (Finance) Retd., Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. --- On Fri, 31/7/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.comFriday, 31 July, 2009, 12:14 PM Dear Naidu ji, There are couple of theories and we had good discussion on these theories in the past. I have complied a list of all such theories and can be found at - http://logy. astrosage. com/Home/ recent-researche s#TOC-Birth- Time-Rectificati on I personally use only RP (As taught by Shri KSK) and event based rectification. I don't use any other theories mentioned in above article. Truly speaking I am very critical to all these theories and I continuously maintained that without any verification framework, we don't have any tool to verify which one is correct and which one is not. In my opinion, it is not fair to use the theories that can not be verified by an astrologer. Though this is my personal opinion and it doesn't stop anybody to use these theories. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:48 AM, K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear sri Punit Ji,One theory is comparing the Planets - RP Moon = Natal Asc, RP Asc = Natal Moon.Another Theory (as mentioned by you) is comparing Planet positions - RP Moon position = Natal Moon position, RP Asc position = Natal Asc position. Both the theories are RP based theories. RP based RBT theories may not give the same RBT at all times and at all places. Of course it is our endeavour to find out, through various theories, RBT nearer to ACTUAL BIRTH TIME which is always ONE and is known to God only.The traditional astrogers mostly and normally never worry about correct Birth Time. The correctness of Birth time is the most important in KP astrology due to reasons well known to all KP followers.The Bith Time which confirms the past life events of a native, as per KP rules, can safely be taken as correct and exact Birth Time. Thanks and Regds.K. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Wed, 29/7/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.com Wednesday, 29 July, 2009, 4:30 PM Dear Adith ji, I would not call "RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?" a rule but a theory which is under observation. Truly speaking, I don't have much success with this theory. I have seen the present Moon position can tell either birth Moon position or birth Ascendant position, similarly for present Ascendant position. I believe more research is required on this theory. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:16 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear r.Senthil,Noted that your RBT is 16.30.07. with Asc-Mars-Sun- Rahu-Rahu !!!But where is the fulfillment of the said rules :RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?Asc.sublord= Moon starlord.?Asc. is fixed using the RPs and fixing the 7th CSL to match the wife's.But the Asc.sublord is Rahu should have connection to the Moon star lord, Saturn which is not present,I hope. which is the most impotant rule.(FYI: If you check my analysis , the Asc.RPs= is exactly the Birth Moon corulers). The Asc. sub was chosen either Sun,Moon, or Rahu. Out of which Sun was selected for the reason Sun is in the star of Saturn, the Moon star lord. The 7th CSL will be Venus in whose sign Jupiter(wife star) is located.Hope you can give your study on the analysis on RPS of the all the particpants the real task of this operationRegardsAdithwww.thebestastro. com On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Dear Ms Chandra Further to my E-mail below, the RBT which i have fixed based on the RP for my place is given with detailed analysis. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 NGG.Lng. 127:03: 00 EGC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN As per the given date/place and time between 16:18 to 16:30 the ascendant falls in MARS sign –SUN Star. Rule-1 ===== The RP ascendant sub lord will reveal the nature of query. Here the RP Asc sub lord is Mars. His question is about ascendant only. Hence the ascendant sign lord (Mars) is correct. Rule-2 ===== Birth Asc = RP Moon Birth Moo= RP Asc The SUN is RP Moon sign lord. The birth ascendant falls from 16:19:54 to 16:32:10 Hrs in SUN star. Hence Birth ascendant must be MAR-SUN. Now either VEN or RAH must be the sub lord. Node is stronger than planet and there is no VEN sub is available between the 16:19:54 Hrs to 16:32:10 Hrs. Hence RAH is considered as the ascendant sub lord. The RAH sub falls from 16:29:17 to 16:32:10 Hrs. Now before fixing the sub lord let us see the wife’s star. It is Punarpusa 3rd Pada (MER sign-JUP star). Between 16:29:17 to 16:30:06 Hrs 7th CSL falls as SUN and from 16:30:07 Hrs onwards MOO sub starts and MOO is occupied is JUP sign (in NATAL chart) which is his wife star. Hence I have selected 16:30:07 Hrs is his correct birth time. RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MAR SUN RAH® RAH® MOO JUP® SAT® MER RAH® Now for 16:30:07 hrs birth time, MOO position JUP®-SAT® -MER-RAH( R) Only MER is appearing is RP Asc Sign lord and JUP®, SAT® are not directly connected. But in the birth Chart SAT® is in MOO-MER-MAR which appearing in RP ascendant hence SAT star is OK. So his RBT is 16:30:07 hrs GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Fri, 7/24/09, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Senthil <athi_ram >Re: Birth Time Rectification @gro ups.com Friday, July 24, 2009, 9:30 PM Dear MS chandra, I have requested members who are sitting at various places (INDIA, UK, AUS, UAE etc) to do the exercise and to post the RP details for studying the relations between the various RP's working around the world but none of them given. So at least RP for my judgment place is given below for information. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 NGG.Lng. 127:03: 00 EGC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Mon, 7/13/09, sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > wrote: sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.com Monday, July 13, 2009, 5:26 AM Dear Member,I would be thankful to you All,Could you please Rectify My Brith Time to Micro Level I am Placing all my Lift Time Events.My DOB : 30th Nov, 1976.Time : 16:18 to 16:30 in between only.Place : Hanamkonda : Andhra Pradesh : IndiaLattitude : 018:10:00Longitude : 079:46:00My Lift Events.1) I am Elder Son after me 1 Sister 2 Brothers.2) Education Gaps from 1994 to 1997 ( Worked earned some money)3) Graduation Started in 1997 and Completed in 2000. 4) Post Graduation in IT 2000-20002 October.5) Joined in SW Job 28th October, 2004 in Mumbai6) Marriage : 10 Nov, 2005 Muhurth : 21:35 (Gemini Lagna)7) My Wife : Born in Punarvasu 3rd Pada: Leo Ascendant : Date of Birth : 5th September,1980 Time : 05:05 am8) My son Date of Birth : 8th March, 2007 at 10:26am Swathi, Tarus Asc 9) 21st May, 2007 Moved to Pune to new Job S/w10) April, 24,2009 was my Last working day in My S/w Job.11) 5th June, 2009 Moved to UK.Regards,MS chandra recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. 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Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Dear Dr.Rath Ji, At first I am surprised to see your mail which is not expected from people like you. Now it is claered. No apologigies please in this forum. Some times it may happen unintentionally. Thanks & Regard, Naidu KP.K. P. Naidu,Director (Finance) Retd. Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Fri, 31/7/09, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: Birth Time Rectification Date: Friday, 31 July, 2009, 7:16 PM Dear Naiduji, I am extremely sorry for mis-interpreting your wordings.I read your phrase "past life events" as events of past life. I should have read it as past events of life. I beg apology for the mistake. Dr. Rath Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.comFriday, July 31, 2009 6:44:58 PMRe: Birth Time Rectification Dear Naidu ji, Rules are clear to predict some possibility. It doesn't work other way. Let us take an example of marriage. In a horoscope where I want to verify a sub lord, all nine planets are significators of 2,7, 11. Now how to ascertain the sub lord? We have also seen many cases in this forum itself where four fold significators alone has not given results and we have to use aspects (E grade significators) to those significators. In such case how we will verify? In my opinion, it is not easy as it is sounding when it comes to reverse engineer. We can do an exercise where we can check the validity of this verification process suggested by you. We can take known birth chart where we will not disclose birth details and ask for guessing the sub lord of say 7th house. Let us see if we can reverse engineer sub-lord based on known rules. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:57 PM, K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear sri Punit Ji,Verification framework, I understand, is available in KP. We have clear Rules in KP to predict the life events like, marriage, job, progeny, foreign travel, sickness, hospitalisation, imprisonment, accident, etc., etc. The same rules , I understand, can be applied to verify the past life events.Of course Vimshottari based DBAS period may not change with slight changes in Birth Time, but Cuspla sublords and their star lords may change.Hence RBT must confirm all the past life events as per KP rules of prediction.Here, I can guess feeling/opinion/ comment of some of our KP followers, that "it is not possible to confirm ALL the past life events with any RBT." What are the probable reasons for such a practical experience. Either RBT may be wrong or verificagtion rules (KP) may still require improvement. A rationale approach and thinking is necessary. Open mindedness may be an essential prerequisite to conduct research in this regard.Thanks and Regards,Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Director (Finance) Retd., Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. --- On Fri, 31/7/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.comFriday, 31 July, 2009, 12:14 PM Dear Naidu ji, There are couple of theories and we had good discussion on these theories in the past. I have complied a list of all such theories and can be found at - http://logy. astrosage. com/Home/ recent-researche s#TOC-Birth- Time-Rectificati on I personally use only RP (As taught by Shri KSK) and event based rectification. I don't use any other theories mentioned in above article. Truly speaking I am very critical to all these theories and I continuously maintained that without any verification framework, we don't have any tool to verify which one is correct and which one is not. In my opinion, it is not fair to use the theories that can not be verified by an astrologer. Though this is my personal opinion and it doesn't stop anybody to use these theories. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:48 AM, K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear sri Punit Ji,One theory is comparing the Planets - RP Moon = Natal Asc, RP Asc = Natal Moon.Another Theory (as mentioned by you) is comparing Planet positions - RP Moon position = Natal Moon position, RP Asc position = Natal Asc position. Both the theories are RP based theories. RP based RBT theories may not give the same RBT at all times and at all places. Of course it is our endeavour to find out, through various theories, RBT nearer to ACTUAL BIRTH TIME which is always ONE and is known to God only.The traditional astrogers mostly and normally never worry about correct Birth Time. The correctness of Birth time is the most important in KP astrology due to reasons well known to all KP followers.The Bith Time which confirms the past life events of a native, as per KP rules, can safely be taken as correct and exact Birth Time. Thanks and Regds.K. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Wed, 29/7/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.com Wednesday, 29 July, 2009, 4:30 PM Dear Adith ji, I would not call "RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?" a rule but a theory which is under observation. Truly speaking, I don't have much success with this theory. I have seen the present Moon position can tell either birth Moon position or birth Ascendant position, similarly for present Ascendant position. I believe more research is required on this theory. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:16 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear r.Senthil,Noted that your RBT is 16.30.07. with Asc-Mars-Sun- Rahu-Rahu !!!But where is the fulfillment of the said rules :RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?Asc.sublord= Moon starlord.?Asc. is fixed using the RPs and fixing the 7th CSL to match the wife's.But the Asc.sublord is Rahu should have connection to the Moon star lord, Saturn which is not present,I hope. which is the most impotant rule.(FYI: If you check my analysis , the Asc.RPs= is exactly the Birth Moon corulers). The Asc. sub was chosen either Sun,Moon, or Rahu. Out of which Sun was selected for the reason Sun is in the star of Saturn, the Moon star lord. The 7th CSL will be Venus in whose sign Jupiter(wife star) is located.Hope you can give your study on the analysis on RPS of the all the particpants the real task of this operationRegardsAdithwww.thebestastro. com On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Dear Ms Chandra Further to my E-mail below, the RBT which i have fixed based on the RP for my place is given with detailed analysis. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 NGG.Lng. 127:03: 00 EGC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN As per the given date/place and time between 16:18 to 16:30 the ascendant falls in MARS sign –SUN Star. Rule-1 ===== The RP ascendant sub lord will reveal the nature of query. Here the RP Asc sub lord is Mars. His question is about ascendant only. Hence the ascendant sign lord (Mars) is correct. Rule-2 ===== Birth Asc = RP Moon Birth Moo= RP Asc The SUN is RP Moon sign lord. The birth ascendant falls from 16:19:54 to 16:32:10 Hrs in SUN star. Hence Birth ascendant must be MAR-SUN. Now either VEN or RAH must be the sub lord. Node is stronger than planet and there is no VEN sub is available between the 16:19:54 Hrs to 16:32:10 Hrs. Hence RAH is considered as the ascendant sub lord. The RAH sub falls from 16:29:17 to 16:32:10 Hrs. Now before fixing the sub lord let us see the wife’s star. It is Punarpusa 3rd Pada (MER sign-JUP star). Between 16:29:17 to 16:30:06 Hrs 7th CSL falls as SUN and from 16:30:07 Hrs onwards MOO sub starts and MOO is occupied is JUP sign (in NATAL chart) which is his wife star. Hence I have selected 16:30:07 Hrs is his correct birth time. RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MAR SUN RAH® RAH® MOO JUP® SAT® MER RAH® Now for 16:30:07 hrs birth time, MOO position JUP®-SAT® -MER-RAH( R) Only MER is appearing is RP Asc Sign lord and JUP®, SAT® are not directly connected. But in the birth Chart SAT® is in MOO-MER-MAR which appearing in RP ascendant hence SAT star is OK. So his RBT is 16:30:07 hrs GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Fri, 7/24/09, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Senthil <athi_ram >Re: Birth Time Rectification @gro ups.com Friday, July 24, 2009, 9:30 PM Dear MS chandra, I have requested members who are sitting at various places (INDIA, UK, AUS, UAE etc) to do the exercise and to post the RP details for studying the relations between the various RP's working around the world but none of them given. So at least RP for my judgment place is given below for information. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 NGG.Lng. 127:03: 00 EGC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Mon, 7/13/09, sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > wrote: sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.com Monday, July 13, 2009, 5:26 AM Dear Member,I would be thankful to you All,Could you please Rectify My Brith Time to Micro Level I am Placing all my Lift Time Events.My DOB : 30th Nov, 1976.Time : 16:18 to 16:30 in between only.Place : Hanamkonda : Andhra Pradesh : IndiaLattitude : 018:10:00Longitude : 079:46:00My Lift Events.1) I am Elder Son after me 1 Sister 2 Brothers.2) Education Gaps from 1994 to 1997 ( Worked earned some money)3) Graduation Started in 1997 and Completed in 2000. 4) Post Graduation in IT 2000-20002 October.5) Joined in SW Job 28th October, 2004 in Mumbai6) Marriage : 10 Nov, 2005 Muhurth : 21:35 (Gemini Lagna)7) My Wife : Born in Punarvasu 3rd Pada: Leo Ascendant : Date of Birth : 5th September,1980 Time : 05:05 am8) My son Date of Birth : 8th March, 2007 at 10:26am Swathi, Tarus Asc 9) 21st May, 2007 Moved to Pune to new Job S/w10) April, 24,2009 was my Last working day in My S/w Job.11) 5th June, 2009 Moved to UK.Regards,MS chandra recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. 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Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Dear Bohraji, Your way of selection of significators is correct. Your concept about the mahadasa lord and period is correct as well. Now for fructification of marriage we have to consider the DBA and S. the lords all of them must signify either of 2, or 7, or 11. Athe the same time they should not signify house X. In my study of few cases of denial of marriage I have found in many of cases the significators were associated with X. Of course my stdy was related to the VII cusp sub lord. If it is true with VII cusp sub lord it should also be considered seriously whne considering the other significators as well. Lastly I would like to point out that the DBAS lords should transit in VII hoouse on the date of the celebration. I think this answers your doubts. With regards. Dr. Rath msbohra62 <msbohra62 Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2009 1:37:26 AM Re: Birth Time Rectification Dear Dr.Rath,I am new student in Kp astrology but what i have understand,i will try to explain here.1.CSL of 7th at least must be significant of any 2,7,11 than marriage will be happened.Here 7th CSL is Venus which lord of 2nd and 7th so Venus is significator of these group for marriage and Venus is posited in his star ,if any planet posited in own star than we take Sub lord as star of that planet,here mercury is Sub lord of Venus.again the CSL of 11th is Venus here.2.For marriage Mahadasha lord should significator of any 2,7,11 cusp along with the Sub lord of that Mahadasha lord should be significant of any 2,7,11 cusp, than the marriage will be happened in the Mohandas of that planet.Here Mohandas lord is mercury which posited in his own star and Sub of Jupiter.So we will take Jupiter as the star of Mercury and Jupiter is posited in 2 cusp.Mars is Sub-Sub lord of Mercury so it will play the role of Sub lord and it is posited in Saturn star which is 11th lord.As i have understand about significant of any cusp are should be as :-1.Significance of any cusp,Posited planet in Star lord of posited planet in cusp.2.Posited planet in cusp.3.Posited planet in the star of cusps lord.4.Cusps lord.5.Any 'Yukti" with above planets.6.Any relation be"Drashti-Sabhand" by any planet as above significant.Dr.Rath, may be i am wrong to apply the rule of KP because i am in learning period,you can correct me as guide line to me.I will be happy to learn by you.Thanks,M.S.Bohra@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bohraji,> You have mentioned that marriage took place in Merc-Sat-Sat- Sat-Mars period. May be your are right by corelating these planets with the sub lord of VII cusp. I have nothing to comment on other aspects.But did you find out the signifiers of II, VII ans XI? Did Mercury, Saturn and Mars appear as fruitful significators for marriage? I think they should also appear in the 5 grades of significators as per KP. Your response is awaited for.> Dr. Rath> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> msbohra62 <msbohra62@. ..>> @gro ups.com> Friday, July 31, 2009 5:38:20 PM> Re: Birth Time Rectification> >  > Dear friends > > I have forget that movements of every Lagana is not the same as per lagana in two hours.Aries have fast speed in movement so the calculation for 2Degree and 33 Kala will be accordingly. It was the mistake in my first post in thread.> > Thanks,> > M.S.Bohra> > @gro ups.com, "msbohra62" <msbohra62@ ..> wrote:> >> > Dear Senthil ji,> > > > I am getting the right time of Birth is 16:27:20(In previous post something is wrong) where Ascendant is Sun(Sign)-Mars( SL)-Jupiter( Sub.L)-Ke( Sub-Sub.L) .For marriage we look for 7th CSL should have relation with 2nd,11th CSL.Here 7th CSL is Venus.Venus is in the star of Venus than we look for Sub lord which is Mercury.11th CSL is again Venus and 2nd CSL is Saturn.Saturn is in the star of Mercury.Saturn is the star of Mars.> > > > The Native have did the marriage on 10th Nov;2005.As above birth time at the time of marriage the Dasa period is Mer-Sat-Sat- Sat-Mars.> > > > Is this all give the indication that birth time is correct as above mentioned ?> > > > Please let me know i am on right way or wrong some where.> > > > Thanks,> > > > M.S.Bohra> > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Senthil <athi_ram@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Punit,> > >  > > > You may please verify the birth time of the chart with urge and submit the RP at your place. Whatever time you fell as per your analysis also may be submitted. Your cooperation will help members to study how the RP works for diff place with different astrologer & the relations between them etc. > > >  > > > Can you please do the exercise for research purpose?> > > > > >  > > > Thanks> > >  > ‚ > > > D.Senthil> > > > > > > > > d, 77n9/09,,729/ 09,, Punit Pandey <punitp@> wrote:> > > > > >> >m:> Punit Pandey <punitp@>> > > Re:] B Birth Time rth Time Rectification> > > @gro ups.com> > > Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 4:00 AM> > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Adith ji,> > >  > > > I would not = = N"RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?" a rule but a theory which is under observation. Truly speaking, I don't have much success with this theory. I have seen the present Moon position can tell either birth Moon position or birth Ascendant position, similarly for present Ascendant position. > > >  > > > I believe more research is required on this theory. > > > & & R Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > Puni> > > > > > > > > > >ul ul 29Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:16 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > l,> > > Dear l,> > > > > > Noted that6.36.37. 07is 16.30.07. with07.c-Mars- Sun-ars-uun- u !!!> > > > > > But where is the fuf thei > d r tes :> ules :>nd RatP Moond ld oln= ctal> Monoon?>> MoMoon?> > > Mocn?> > > A > > >nrd= > > > >> > > > > > > >d.sinsins ixed using thesins and fixing> > > tfe' .> > >> > > wife's.> > > But the Buc the Asd isbloru should have con star lord,the Moon star lord, Saresent,s hope hopepresent, I hopethe mostt rthe mostthe myotcheleI: If yu yocheFYI: If you check cy the ths= , theithey the is exactly the Birth Moonrth Mwas chos cho)c. sub was chosen either Sun,Moon, orMoonu. Out of ed d for tn was selected for the reason Sun rn,ithern,sthe of Saturn, the Moon star lord. The rdh ThL will be Venus in whose sign Jupiter(wife star) is located.> > > > > > Hope you can give your study on the analysis on RPSe pas e all the all th> > ope real eg> n> > gardgt> Reg> >gardgard> gardgards> > >egardh> > > wwwth> > > www.theo. com > > > > > > > > > e, Jul > e, Jul > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote:> > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ms Ch> > aFu> >  > > > Further to my E-mail below, tbel RBT which i have fixed based on the RP for my place is given with detaile> nalysis.> > > > 5-0is.> > > DOJ:25-07-2025-> > > TOJ:10:45 hrs > > > POJ:Seoul,South Korea > > > GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 127:> GG.Lng. 127:03: 00 E> > > GC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N > > > Ayana 23:54:15 > > >  > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RP> > > > > > Sign> > > > > > ub1r> > > > > >Subb1> > > > > > Sub2> > >> S> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASC> > > > > > MER> > > > > > MOO> > > > > > MAR> > > > > > RAH®> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SUN> > > > > > VEN> > > > > > > > RAH®> > > > > > VEN> > >  > > > As per the given date/place and time between 16:18 to 16:30 the ascendant falls in MARS sign â€"SUN Star. > > > > > > > > > Rule-1 The > ===== > > > The RP ascendant sub lord will revearyqhe nature of queryque> > >  ÂÂ> rect. > > >  > > > Rule-2 > > > ===== > > > B> > > Bi = RP Moon > > > Birth Moo= RP Asc > > >  > > > The SUN is RP Moon sign lord. The birth ascendan :54 >alls from 16:19:54 to 16:32:c =Hrs in SUN star. Hence Birth ascendant musthee MAR-SU RAN mustther VEN or RAH must be the sub lord. Node is stronger than planet and th avt mableVEN sub is avt mable between the 16:19:54 Hrs to 16:32:10 Hrs. Hence RAH is considered as tr tascendant sufallsd. The RAH sub falls from 16:2. No tbef6:32:1xinrs. Now before fixing the sub lord let us s etare wifeà Punâ„¢s star. It is PER rpgn-JUrd Pada (MER sign-JUP star). Between 16:297th CS 16:30:06 Hrs 7th CSL falls asus see th froe’:3sta7 Hrsis wards MOO sub starts and MOO is occupied itwJen sign (in NATAL chart) which is his wife star. Hence I have selected 16:30:07 Hrs issubs correct birth time. > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RP> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sign> > > > > > Star> > > > > > Sub1> > > > > > Sub2> > > > > > >> M> ASC> > > > > > MAR> > > > > > SUN> > > > > > RAH®> > > > > > RAH®> > > > > > > > > MOO> > > > > > SAT®>> > > > > SAT®> > > > > >> SR> > > > > > RAH®> > >  > > > Now for 16:30:07 hrs birth time, MOO pAH(tion JUP®-SAT® -M> MRAH( R) > > >  > > > Only MER is appearing is RP Asc Sign lord and JUP:30, SAT® areh tt directly connected. But in the birth Chart > > > ® is in MOO-Mis MAR which appearing in RP ascendant hence SAT star is OK. > > >  > > > So his RBT is in:30:07 hrs > > >  > > > GOOD LUCK! > > >  > > > Thanks > > >  > > > D.Senthil> > > > > > > > > > > hen--- On Fri, 7/24/09, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote:> > > > > > > > GOOD> > > > > Senthil <athi_ram@ .> > > Re: Birth Time Rectifi_ram@ ya> > > > > > @gro ups.com> > > Friday, July 24,>> > > M> > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear MS chandra,> > >  > > > I have requested members who are sitting at various places  > > > , UK, AUS, UAE etc) to do the exercise and to post the RP details for studyingo ae siations between the various RP's working around the world but none of them given. So at least RP fr sty judgment place is given below for information.> > >  > > > DOJ:25-07-2009> > > TOJ:10:45 hrs> > > POJ:Seoul,South Korea> > > GG.Lat. 37:nt 00 N> > > GG.Lng. 127:03: 00 mat> > GC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N> > > Ayana 23:54:15> > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RP> > > Sign> > > Sta N> > > > >  N> > > ub1> > > Sub2> > > > > > ASC> > > MER> > > MOO> > > MAR> > > RAH®> > > > > > MOO> > > SUN> > > VEN> > > > > > ®> > > VEN> > > > > >  > > > GOOD LUCK!> > >  > > > Thanks> > >  > > > D.SenthiER> > > > >  > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 7/13/09, sathish> RAH(Ra <inf2sathish@ > wrote:> > > Thank> > > > > > >  > > >> > > > > > > sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ >> > > ndra <i: Birth Time Rectification> > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > Monday, July 13, 2009, 5:26 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Member,> > > > > > I would be thankful to you All,> > > Could you please Rectify My Brith Time to Micro Level I am Placing all my Lift Time Events.> > > > > > My DOB   : 30th Nov, 1976.> > > Time         : 16:18 to 16:30 in between only.> > > Place        : Hanamkonda : Andhra Pradesh : India> > > Lattitude    : 018:10:00> > > Longitude   : 079:46:00> > > > > > My Lift Events.> > > > > > 1) I am Elder Son after me 1 Sister 2 Brothers.> > > 2) Education Gaps from 1994 to 1997 ( Worked earned some money)> > > 3) Graduation Started in 1997 and Completed in 2000. > > > 4) Post Graduation in IT 2000-20002 October.> > > 5) Joined in SW Job 28th October, 2004 in Mumbai> > > 6) Marriage : 10 Nov, 2005 Muhurth : 21:35 (Gemini Lagna)> > > 7) My Wife : Born in Punarvasu 3rd Pada: Leo Ascendant : Date of Birth : 5th September,1980 Time : 05:05 am> > > 8) My son Date of Birth : 8th March, 2007 at 10:26am Swathi, Tarus Asc > > > 9) 21st May, 2007 Moved to Pune to new Job S/w> > > 10) April, 24,2009 was my Last working day in My S/w Job.> > > 11) 5th June, 2009 Moved to UK.> > > > > > Regards,> > > MS chandra> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Dear Naiduji, Thanks for excusing me for my mis-interpreting. I shall be careful in future. Regards. Dr. Rath K. P. Naidu <konathalan Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2009 9:37:31 AMRe: Birth Time Rectification Dear Dr.Rath Ji, At first I am surprised to see your mail which is not expected from people like you. Now it is claered. No apologigies please in this forum. Some times it may happen unintentionally. Thanks & Regard, Naidu KP.K. P. Naidu,Director (Finance) Retd. Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Fri, 31/7/09, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.comFriday, 31 July, 2009, 7:16 PM Dear Naiduji, I am extremely sorry for mis-interpreting your wordings.I read your phrase "past life events" as events of past life. I should have read it as past events of life. I beg apology for the mistake. Dr. Rath Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.comFriday, July 31, 2009 6:44:58 PMRe: Birth Time Rectification Dear Naidu ji, Rules are clear to predict some possibility. It doesn't work other way. Let us take an example of marriage. In a horoscope where I want to verify a sub lord, all nine planets are significators of 2,7, 11. Now how to ascertain the sub lord? We have also seen many cases in this forum itself where four fold significators alone has not given results and we have to use aspects (E grade significators) to those significators. In such case how we will verify? In my opinion, it is not easy as it is sounding when it comes to reverse engineer. We can do an exercise where we can check the validity of this verification process suggested by you. We can take known birth chart where we will not disclose birth details and ask for guessing the sub lord of say 7th house. Let us see if we can reverse engineer sub-lord based on known rules. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:57 PM, K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear sri Punit Ji,Verification framework, I understand, is available in KP. We have clear Rules in KP to predict the life events like, marriage, job, progeny, foreign travel, sickness, hospitalisation, imprisonment, accident, etc., etc. The same rules , I understand, can be applied to verify the past life events.Of course Vimshottari based DBAS period may not change with slight changes in Birth Time, but Cuspla sublords and their star lords may change.Hence RBT must confirm all the past life events as per KP rules of prediction.Here, I can guess feeling/opinion/ comment of some of our KP followers, that "it is not possible to confirm ALL the past life events with any RBT." What are the probable reasons for such a practical experience. Either RBT may be wrong or verificagtion rules (KP) may still require improvement. A rationale approach and thinking is necessary. Open mindedness may be an essential prerequisite to conduct research in this regard.Thanks and Regards,Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Director (Finance) Retd., Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. --- On Fri, 31/7/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.comFriday, 31 July, 2009, 12:14 PM Dear Naidu ji, There are couple of theories and we had good discussion on these theories in the past. I have complied a list of all such theories and can be found at - http://logy. astrosage. com/Home/ recent-researche s#TOC-Birth- Time-Rectificati on I personally use only RP (As taught by Shri KSK) and event based rectification. I don't use any other theories mentioned in above article. Truly speaking I am very critical to all these theories and I continuously maintained that without any verification framework, we don't have any tool to verify which one is correct and which one is not. In my opinion, it is not fair to use the theories that can not be verified by an astrologer. Though this is my personal opinion and it doesn't stop anybody to use these theories. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:48 AM, K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear sri Punit Ji,One theory is comparing the Planets - RP Moon = Natal Asc, RP Asc = Natal Moon.Another Theory (as mentioned by you) is comparing Planet positions - RP Moon position = Natal Moon position, RP Asc position = Natal Asc position. Both the theories are RP based theories. RP based RBT theories may not give the same RBT at all times and at all places. Of course it is our endeavour to find out, through various theories, RBT nearer to ACTUAL BIRTH TIME which is always ONE and is known to God only.The traditional astrogers mostly and normally never worry about correct Birth Time. The correctness of Birth time is the most important in KP astrology due to reasons well known to all KP followers.The Bith Time which confirms the past life events of a native, as per KP rules, can safely be taken as correct and exact Birth Time. Thanks and Regds.K. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Wed, 29/7/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.com Wednesday, 29 July, 2009, 4:30 PM Dear Adith ji, I would not call "RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?" a rule but a theory which is under observation. Truly speaking, I don't have much success with this theory. I have seen the present Moon position can tell either birth Moon position or birth Ascendant position, similarly for present Ascendant position. I believe more research is required on this theory. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:16 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear r.Senthil,Noted that your RBT is 16.30.07. with Asc-Mars-Sun- Rahu-Rahu !!!But where is the fulfillment of the said rules :RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?Asc.sublord= Moon starlord.?Asc. is fixed using the RPs and fixing the 7th CSL to match the wife's.But the Asc.sublord is Rahu should have connection to the Moon star lord, Saturn which is not present,I hope. which is the most impotant rule.(FYI: If you check my analysis , the Asc.RPs= is exactly the Birth Moon corulers). The Asc. sub was chosen either Sun,Moon, or Rahu. Out of which Sun was selected for the reason Sun is in the star of Saturn, the Moon star lord. The 7th CSL will be Venus in whose sign Jupiter(wife star) is located.Hope you can give your study on the analysis on RPS of the all the particpants the real task of this operationRegardsAdithwww.thebestastro. com On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Dear Ms Chandra Further to my E-mail below, the RBT which i have fixed based on the RP for my place is given with detailed analysis. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 NGG.Lng. 127:03: 00 EGC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN As per the given date/place and time between 16:18 to 16:30 the ascendant falls in MARS sign –SUN Star. Rule-1 ===== The RP ascendant sub lord will reveal the nature of query. Here the RP Asc sub lord is Mars. His question is about ascendant only. Hence the ascendant sign lord (Mars) is correct. Rule-2 ===== Birth Asc = RP Moon Birth Moo= RP Asc The SUN is RP Moon sign lord. The birth ascendant falls from 16:19:54 to 16:32:10 Hrs in SUN star. Hence Birth ascendant must be MAR-SUN. Now either VEN or RAH must be the sub lord. Node is stronger than planet and there is no VEN sub is available between the 16:19:54 Hrs to 16:32:10 Hrs. Hence RAH is considered as the ascendant sub lord. The RAH sub falls from 16:29:17 to 16:32:10 Hrs. Now before fixing the sub lord let us see the wife’s star. It is Punarpusa 3rd Pada (MER sign-JUP star). Between 16:29:17 to 16:30:06 Hrs 7th CSL falls as SUN and from 16:30:07 Hrs onwards MOO sub starts and MOO is occupied is JUP sign (in NATAL chart) which is his wife star. Hence I have selected 16:30:07 Hrs is his correct birth time. RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MAR SUN RAH® RAH® MOO JUP® SAT® MER RAH® Now for 16:30:07 hrs birth time, MOO position JUP®-SAT® -MER-RAH( R) Only MER is appearing is RP Asc Sign lord and JUP®, SAT® are not directly connected. But in the birth Chart SAT® is in MOO-MER-MAR which appearing in RP ascendant hence SAT star is OK. So his RBT is 16:30:07 hrs GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Fri, 7/24/09, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Senthil <athi_ram >Re: Birth Time Rectification @gro ups.com Friday, July 24, 2009, 9:30 PM Dear MS chandra, I have requested members who are sitting at various places (INDIA, UK, AUS, UAE etc) to do the exercise and to post the RP details for studying the relations between the various RP's working around the world but none of them given. So at least RP for my judgment place is given below for information. DOJ:25-07-2009 TOJ:10:45 hrs POJ:Seoul,South Korea GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 NGG.Lng. 127:03: 00 EGC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N Ayana 23:54:15 RP Sign Star Sub1 Sub2 ASC MER MOO MAR RAH® MOO SUN VEN RAH® VEN GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Mon, 7/13/09, sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > wrote: sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.com Monday, July 13, 2009, 5:26 AM Dear Member,I would be thankful to you All,Could you please Rectify My Brith Time to Micro Level I am Placing all my Lift Time Events.My DOB : 30th Nov, 1976.Time : 16:18 to 16:30 in between only.Place : Hanamkonda : Andhra Pradesh : IndiaLattitude : 018:10:00Longitude : 079:46:00My Lift Events.1) I am Elder Son after me 1 Sister 2 Brothers.2) Education Gaps from 1994 to 1997 ( Worked earned some money)3) Graduation Started in 1997 and Completed in 2000. 4) Post Graduation in IT 2000-20002 October.5) Joined in SW Job 28th October, 2004 in Mumbai6) Marriage : 10 Nov, 2005 Muhurth : 21:35 (Gemini Lagna)7) My Wife : Born in Punarvasu 3rd Pada: Leo Ascendant : Date of Birth : 5th September,1980 Time : 05:05 am8) My son Date of Birth : 8th March, 2007 at 10:26am Swathi, Tarus Asc 9) 21st May, 2007 Moved to Pune to new Job S/w10) April, 24,2009 was my Last working day in My S/w Job.11) 5th June, 2009 Moved to UK.Regards,MS chandra recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. 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Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Dear Dr.Rath, Thanks for your valuable guideline.At least i am on track,some extent. M.S.Bohra , Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: > > Dear Bohraji, > Your way of selection of significators is correct. Your concept about the mahadasa lord and period is correct as well. Now for fructification of marriage we have to consider the DBA and S. the lords all of them must signify either of 2, or 7, or 11. Athe the same time they should not signify house X. In my study of few cases of denial of marriage I have found in many of cases the significators were associated with X. Of course my stdy was related to the VII cusp sub lord. If it is true with VII cusp sub lord it should also be considered seriously whne considering the other significators as well. Lastly I would like to point out that the DBAS lords should transit in VII hoouse on the date of the celebration. I think this answers your doubts. > With regards. > Dr. Rath > > > > ________________________________ > msbohra62 <msbohra62 > > Saturday, August 1, 2009 1:37:26 AM > Re: Birth Time Rectification > >  > Dear Dr.Rath, > > I am new student in Kp astrology but what i have understand,i will try to explain here. > > 1.CSL of 7th at least must be significant of any 2,7,11 than marriage will be happened. > Here 7th CSL is Venus which lord of 2nd and 7th so Venus is significator of these group for marriage and Venus is posited in his star ,if any planet posited in own star than we take Sub lord as star of that planet,here mercury is Sub lord of Venus. > again the CSL of 11th is Venus here. > > 2.For marriage Mahadasha lord should significator of any 2,7,11 cusp along with the Sub lord of that Mahadasha lord should be significant of any 2,7,11 cusp, than the marriage will be happened in the Mohandas of that planet. > > Here Mohandas lord is mercury which posited in his own star and Sub of Jupiter.So we will take Jupiter as the star of Mercury and Jupiter is posited in 2 cusp.Mars is Sub-Sub lord of Mercury so it will play the role of Sub lord and it is posited in Saturn star which is 11th lord. > > As i have understand about significant of any cusp are should be as :- > > 1.Significance of any cusp,Posited planet in Star lord of posited planet in cusp. > 2.Posited planet in cusp. > 3.Posited planet in the star of cusps lord. > 4.Cusps lord. > 5.Any 'Yukti " with above planets. > 6.Any relation be " Drashti-Sabhand " by any planet as above significant. > > Dr.Rath, may be i am wrong to apply the rule of KP because i am in learning period,you can correct me as guide line to me.I will be happy to learn by you. > > Thanks, > > M.S.Bohra > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Bohraji, > > You have mentioned that marriage took place in Merc-Sat-Sat- Sat-Mars period. May be your are right by corelating these planets with the sub lord of VII cusp. I have nothing to comment on other aspects.But did you find out the signifiers of II, VII ans XI? Did Mercury, Saturn and Mars appear as fruitful significators for marriage? I think they should also appear in the 5 grades of significators as per KP. Your response is awaited for. > > Dr. Rath > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > msbohra62 <msbohra62@ ..> > > @gro ups.com > > Friday, July 31, 2009 5:38:20 PM > > Re: Birth Time Rectification > > > >  > > Dear friends > > > > I have forget that movements of every Lagana is not the same as per lagana in two hours.Aries have fast speed in movement so the calculation for 2Degree and 33 Kala will be accordingly. It was the mistake in my first post in thread. > > > > Thanks, > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > @gro ups.com, " msbohra62 " <msbohra62@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Senthil ji, > > > > > > I am getting the right time of Birth is 16:27:20(In previous post something is wrong) where Ascendant is Sun(Sign)-Mars( SL)-Jupiter( Sub.L)-Ke( Sub-Sub.L) .For marriage we look for 7th CSL should have relation with 2nd,11th CSL.Here 7th CSL is Venus.Venus is in the star of Venus than we look for Sub lord which is Mercury.11th CSL is again Venus and 2nd CSL is Saturn.Saturn is in the star of Mercury.Saturn is the star of Mars. > > > > > > The Native have did the marriage on 10th Nov;2005.As above birth time at the time of marriage the Dasa period is Mer-Sat-Sat- Sat-Mars. > > > > > > Is this all give the indication that birth time is correct as above mentioned ? > > > > > > Please let me know i am on right way or wrong some where. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Senthil <athi_ram@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Punit, > > > >  > > > > You may please verify the birth time of the chart with urge and submit the RP at your place. Whatever time you fell as per your analysis also may be submitted. Your cooperation will help members to study how the RP works for diff place with different astrologer & the relations between them etc. > > > >  > > > > Can you please do the exercise for research purpose? > > > > > > > >  > > > > Thanks > > > >  > > > > > > > ‚ > > > > > D.Senthil > > > > > > > > > > dd, 77d, 77n9/09,,729/ 09,, Punit Pandey <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > > rrom: rom: > m:> Fronit Pait Pandey <punitp@> >> S> > Su Re:] B Birt Birth Time rth Time Rectification > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 4:00 AM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Adith ji, > > > > ‚Â> > > > > ld would not = = N " RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon? " a rule but a theory which is under observation. Truly speaking, I don't have much success wis theor theory. I have seen the present Moon poican tecan tell either birth Moon position or birth Ascendant position, similarly for present Ascendant position. > > > >  > > > > I believe more research is required on this theor> > > > > > > & & R Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > Puni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >ul ul 29Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:16 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > l, > > > > Dear l, > > > > >Not> > Noted that6.36.37. 07is 16.30.07. wit7.s- aunrs- Suun--s-uun- !!! ! > > > >> > > > > But whthe is theei >r hei >r : > > : > > u : >: > >nd RatP Moond ct=ln= ctal> Monoon? > >> MoMoon? > > > > Mo > A > >nrd > >nr> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >d.sinsins ixed using th nand a > >g > > > > > > > > > > > > e's. > wi> > . > > theBAsde Asd is sh Asd is d han havd han,toe Moon stae Mohn star sord loaresentesent,s hope hopent, Int, I hopethe mrttt rtsttmostthe myo > tcheleI: If y > u yo > cheFYI: If you check cy the ths= , theithey the is exactly the Birth Moonrth Mwas chos cho)c. sub was chosen either Sun,Moon, orMoonu. Out of ed d for tn was selected for the reason Sun rn,ithern,sthe of Saturn, the Moon star lord. The rdh ThL will be Venus in whose sign Jupiter(wife star) is located. > > > > > > > > Hope you can give your study on the analysis on RPSe pas e all the all th > > > ope real eg > > n > > > gardgt> Reg > > >gard > gard> gardgards > > > >egardh > > > > wwwth > > > > www.theo. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > e, Jul > > e, Jul > > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ms Ch> > a > Fu> >  > > > > Further to my E-mail below, tbel RBT which i have fixed based on the RP for my place is given with detaile > > nalysis. > > > > > > 5-0is. > > > > DOJ:25-07-2025- > > > > TOJ:10:45 hrs > > > > POJ:Seoul,South Korea > > > > GG.Lat. 37:35: 00  127: > > GG.Lng. 127:03: 00 E > > > > GC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N > > > > Ayana 23:54:15 > > > >  > > > >  > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RP > > > > > > > > Sign > > > > > > > > ub1r > > > > > > > >Subb1 > > > > > > > > Sub2 > > > >> S > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASC > > > > > > > > MER > > > > > > > > MOO > > > > > > > > MAR > > > > > > > > RAH® > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SUN > > > > > > > > VEN > > > > > > > > > > > RAH® > > > > > > > > VEN > > > >  > > > > As per the given date/place and time between 16:18 to 16:30 the ascendant falls in MARS sign †" SUN Star. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rule-1 > The > ===== > > > > The RP ascendant sub lord will revearyqhe nature of queryque > > > >  Â > > rect. > > > >  > > > > Rule-2 > > > > ===== > > > > B> > > Bi = RP Moon > > > > Birth Moo= RP Asc > > > >  > > > > The SUN is RP Moon sign lord. The birth ascendan > :54 >alls from 16:19:54 to 16:32:c =Hrs in SUN star. Hence Birth ascendant musthee MAR-SU RAN mustther VEN or RAH must be the sub lord. Node is stronger than planet and th avt mableVEN sub is avt mable between the 16:19:54 Hrs to 16:32:10 Hrs. Hence RAH is considered as tr tascendant sufallsd. The RAH sub falls from 16:2. No tbef6:32:1xinrs. Now before fixing the sub lord let us s etare wifeà Punâ„¢s star. It is PER rpgn-JUrd Pada (MER sign-JUP star). Between 16:297th CS 16:30:06 Hrs 7th CSL falls asus see th froe’:3sta7 Hrsis wards MOO sub starts and MOO is occupied itwJen sign (in NATAL chart) which is his wife star. Hence I have selected 16:30:07 Hrs issubs correct birth time. > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sign > > > > > > > > Star > > > > > > > > Sub1 > > > > > > > > Sub2 > > > > > > > > > >> M> ASC > > > > > > > > MAR > > > > > > > > SUN > > > > > > > > RAH® > > > > > > > > RAH® > > > > > > > > > > > > MOO > > > > > > > > SAT® > > > > > > > > > SAT® > > > > > > > >> SR > > > > > > > > RAH® > > > >  > > > > Now for 16:30:07 hrs birth time, MOO pAH(tion JUP®-SAT® -M> MRAH( R) > > > >  > > > > Only MER is appearing is RP Asc Sign lord and JUP:30, SAT® areh tt directly connected. But in the birth Chart > > > > ® is in MOO-Mis MAR which appearing in RP ascendant hence SAT star is OK. > > > >  > > > > So his RBT is in:30:07 hrs > > > >  > > > > GOOD LUCK! > > > >  > > > > Thanks > > > >  > > > > D.Senthil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hen--- On Fri, 7/24/09, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > GOOD > > > > > > > Senthil <athi_ram@ . > > > > Re: Birth Time Rectifi_ram@ ya > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Friday, July 24,> > > > > M > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear MS chandra, > > > >  > > > > I have requested members who are sitting at various places  > > > > , UK, AUS, UAE etc) to do the exercise and to post the RP details for studyingo ae siations between the various RP's working around the world but none of them given. So at least RP fr sty judgment place is given below for information. > > > >  > > > > DOJ:25-07-2009 > > > > TOJ:10:45 hrs > > > > POJ:Seoul,South Korea > > > > GG.Lat. 37:nt 00 N > > > > GG.Lng. 127:03: 00 mat > > > GC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N > > > > Ayana 23:54:15 > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RP > > > > Sign > > > > Sta N > > > > > > >  N > > > > ub1 > > > > Sub2 > > > > > > > > ASC > > > > MER > > > > MOO > > > > MAR > > > > RAH® > > > > > > > > MOO > > > > SUN > > > > VEN > > > > > > > > ® > > > > VEN > > > > > > > >  > > > > GOOD LUCK! > > > >  > > > > Thanks > > > >  > > > > D.SenthiER > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 7/13/09, sathish> RAH(Ra <inf2sathish@ > wrote: > > > > Thank > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ > > > > > ndra <i: Birth Time Rectification > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > Monday, July 13, 2009, 5:26 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Member, > > > > > > > > I would be thankful to you All, > > > > Could you please Rectify My Brith Time to Micro Level I am Placing all my Lift Time Events. > > > > > > > > My DOB   : 30th Nov, 1976. > > > > Time        Ãâ€\ šÃ‚ : 16:18 to 16:30 in between only. > > > > Place        : Hanamkonda : Andhra Pradesh : India > > > > Lattitude    : 018:10:00 > > > > Longitude   : 079:46:00 > > > > > > > > My Lift Events. > > > > > > > > 1) I am Elder Son after me 1 Sister 2 Brothers. > > > > 2) Education Gaps from 1994 to 1997 ( Worked earned some money) > > > > 3) Graduation Started in 1997 and Completed in 2000. > > > > 4) Post Graduation in IT 2000-20002 October. > > > > 5) Joined in SW Job 28th October, 2004 in Mumbai > > > > 6) Marriage : 10 Nov, 2005 Muhurth : 21:35 (Gemini Lagna) > > > > 7) My Wife : Born in Punarvasu 3rd Pada: Leo Ascendant : Date of Birth : 5th September,1980 Time : 05:05 am > > > > 8) My son Date of Birth : 8th March, 2007 at 10:26am Swathi, Tarus Asc > > > > 9) 21st May, 2007 Moved to Pune to new Job S/w > > > > 10) April, 24,2009 was my Last working day in My S/w Job. > > > > 11) 5th June, 2009 Moved to UK. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > MS chandra > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Rath ji Pranam ,Sir can you give me those illustrations for my study thanking youPeace and Prosperity to All !!VGR--- On Sat, 1/8/09, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: Re: Birth Time Rectification Date: Saturday, 1 August, 2009, 7:30 PM Dear Bohraji, Your way of selection of significators is correct. Your concept about the mahadasa lord and period is correct as well. Now for fructification of marriage we have to consider the DBA and S. the lords all of them must signify either of 2, or 7, or 11. Athe the same time they should not signify house X. In my study of few cases of denial of marriage I have found in many of cases the significators were associated with X. Of course my stdy was related to the VII cusp sub lord. If it is true with VII cusp sub lord it should also be considered seriously whne considering the other significators as well. Lastly I would like to point out that the DBAS lords should transit in VII hoouse on the date of the celebration. I think this answers your doubts. With regards. Dr. Rath msbohra62 <msbohra62 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comSaturday, August 1, 2009 1:37:26 AM Re: Birth Time Rectification Dear Dr.Rath,I am new student in Kp astrology but what i have understand,i will try to explain here.1.CSL of 7th at least must be significant of any 2,7,11 than marriage will be happened.Here 7th CSL is Venus which lord of 2nd and 7th so Venus is significator of these group for marriage and Venus is posited in his star ,if any planet posited in own star than we take Sub lord as star of that planet,here mercury is Sub lord of Venus.again the CSL of 11th is Venus here.2.For marriage Mahadasha lord should significator of any 2,7,11 cusp along with the Sub lord of that Mahadasha lord should be significant of any 2,7,11 cusp, than the marriage will be happened in the Mohandas of that planet.Here Mohandas lord is mercury which posited in his own star and Sub of Jupiter.So we will take Jupiter as the star of Mercury and Jupiter is posited in 2 cusp.Mars is Sub-Sub lord of Mercury so it will play the role of Sub lord and it is posited in Saturn star which is 11th lord.As i have understand about significant of any cusp are should be as :-1.Significance of any cusp,Posited planet in Star lord of posited planet in cusp.2.Posited planet in cusp.3.Posited planet in the star of cusps lord.4.Cusps lord.5.Any 'Yukti" with above planets.6.Any relation be"Drashti-Sabhand" by any planet as above significant.Dr.Rath, may be i am wrong to apply the rule of KP because i am in learning period,you can correct me as guide line to me.I will be happy to learn by you.Thanks,M.S.Bohra@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bohraji,> You have mentioned that marriage took place in Merc-Sat-Sat- Sat-Mars period. May be your are right by corelating these planets with the sub lord of VII cusp. I have nothing to comment on other aspects.But did you find out the signifiers of II, VII ans XI? Did Mercury, Saturn and Mars appear as fruitful significators for marriage? I think they should also appear in the 5 grades of significators as per KP. Your response is awaited for.> Dr. Rath> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> msbohra62 <msbohra62@. ..>> @gro ups.com> Friday, July 31, 2009 5:38:20 PM> Re: Birth Time Rectification> >  > Dear friends > > I have forget that movements of every Lagana is not the same as per lagana in two hours.Aries have fast speed in movement so the calculation for 2Degree and 33 Kala will be accordingly. It was the mistake in my first post in thread.> > Thanks,> > M.S.Bohra> > @gro ups.com, "msbohra62" <msbohra62@ ..> wrote:> >> > Dear Senthil ji,> > > > I am getting the right time of Birth is 16:27:20(In previous post something is wrong) where Ascendant is Sun(Sign)-Mars( SL)-Jupiter( Sub.L)-Ke( Sub-Sub.L) .For marriage we look for 7th CSL should have relation with 2nd,11th CSL.Here 7th CSL is Venus.Venus is in the star of Venus than we look for Sub lord which is Mercury.11th CSL is again Venus and 2nd CSL is Saturn.Saturn is in the star of Mercury.Saturn is the star of Mars.> > > > The Native have did the marriage on 10th Nov;2005.As above birth time at the time of marriage the Dasa period is Mer-Sat-Sat- Sat-Mars.> > > > Is this all give the indication that birth time is correct as above mentioned ?> > > > Please let me know i am on right way or wrong some where.> > > > Thanks,> > > > M.S.Bohra> > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Senthil <athi_ram@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Punit,> > >  > > > You may please verify the birth time of the chart with urge and submit the RP at your place. Whatever time you fell as per your analysis also may be submitted. Your cooperation will help members to study how the RP works for diff place with different astrologer & the relations between them etc. > > >  > > > Can you please do the exercise for research purpose?> > > > > >  > > > Thanks> > >  > ‚ > > > D.Senthil> > > > > > > > > d, 77n9/09,,729/ 09,, Punit Pandey <punitp@> wrote:> > > > > >> >m:> Punit Pandey <punitp@>> > > Re:] B Birth Time rth Time Rectification> > > @gro ups.com> > > Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 4:00 AM> > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Adith ji,> > >  > > > I would not = = N"RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?" a rule but a theory which is under observation. Truly speaking, I don't have much success with this theory. I have seen the present Moon position can tell either birth Moon position or birth Ascendant position, similarly for present Ascendant position. > > >  > > > I believe more research is required on this theory. > > > & & R Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > Puni> > > > > > > > > > >ul ul 29Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:16 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > l,> > > Dear l,> > > > > > Noted that6.36.37. 07is 16.30.07. with07.c-Mars- Sun-ars-uun- u !!!> > > > > > But where is the fuf thei > d r tes :> ules :>nd RatP Moond ld oln= ctal> Monoon?>> MoMoon?> > > Mocn?> > > A > > >nrd= > > > >> > > > > > > >d.sinsins ixed using thesins and fixing> > > tfe' .> > >> > > wife's.> > > But the Buc the Asd isbloru should have con star lord,the Moon star lord, Saresent,s hope hopepresent, I hopethe mostt rthe mostthe myotcheleI: If yu yocheFYI: If you check cy the ths= , theithey the is exactly the Birth Moonrth Mwas chos cho)c. sub was chosen either Sun,Moon, orMoonu. Out of ed d for tn was selected for the reason Sun rn,ithern,sthe of Saturn, the Moon star lord. The rdh ThL will be Venus in whose sign Jupiter(wife star) is located.> > > > > > Hope you can give your study on the analysis on RPSe pas e all the all th> > ope real eg> n> > gardgt> Reg> >gardgard> gardgards> > >egardh> > > wwwth> > > www.theo. com > > > > > > > > > e, Jul > e, Jul > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote:> > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ms Ch> > aFu> >  > > > Further to my E-mail below, tbel RBT which i have fixed based on the RP for my place is given with detaile> nalysis.> > > > 5-0is.> > > DOJ:25-07-2025-> > > TOJ:10:45 hrs > > > POJ:Seoul,South Korea > > > GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 127:> GG.Lng. 127:03: 00 E> > > GC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N > > > Ayana 23:54:15 > > >  > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RP> > > > > > Sign> > > > > > ub1r> > > > > >Subb1> > > > > > Sub2> > >> S> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASC> > > > > > MER> > > > > > MOO> > > > > > MAR> > > > > > RAH®> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SUN> > > > > > VEN> > > > > > > > RAH®> > > > > > VEN> > >  > > > As per the given date/place and time between 16:18 to 16:30 the ascendant falls in MARS sign â€"SUN Star. > > > > > > > > > Rule-1 The > ===== > > > The RP ascendant sub lord will revearyqhe nature of queryque> > >  ÂÂ> rect. > > >  > > > Rule-2 > > > ===== > > > B> > > Bi = RP Moon > > > Birth Moo= RP Asc > > >  > > > The SUN is RP Moon sign lord. The birth ascendan :54 >alls from 16:19:54 to 16:32:c =Hrs in SUN star. Hence Birth ascendant musthee MAR-SU RAN mustther VEN or RAH must be the sub lord. Node is stronger than planet and th avt mableVEN sub is avt mable between the 16:19:54 Hrs to 16:32:10 Hrs. Hence RAH is considered as tr tascendant sufallsd. The RAH sub falls from 16:2. No tbef6:32:1xinrs. Now before fixing the sub lord let us s etare wifeà Punâ„¢s star. It is PER rpgn-JUrd Pada (MER sign-JUP star). Between 16:297th CS 16:30:06 Hrs 7th CSL falls asus see th froe’:3sta7 Hrsis wards MOO sub starts and MOO is occupied itwJen sign (in NATAL chart) which is his wife star. Hence I have selected 16:30:07 Hrs issubs correct birth time. > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RP> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sign> > > > > > Star> > > > > > Sub1> > > > > > Sub2> > > > > > >> M> ASC> > > > > > MAR> > > > > > SUN> > > > > > RAH®> > > > > > RAH®> > > > > > > > > MOO> > > > > > SAT®>> > > > > SAT®> > > > > >> SR> > > > > > RAH®> > >  > > > Now for 16:30:07 hrs birth time, MOO pAH(tion JUP®-SAT® -M> MRAH( R) > > >  > > > Only MER is appearing is RP Asc Sign lord and JUP:30, SAT® areh tt directly connected. But in the birth Chart > > > ® is in MOO-Mis MAR which appearing in RP ascendant hence SAT star is OK. > > >  > > > So his RBT is in:30:07 hrs > > >  > > > GOOD LUCK! > > >  > > > Thanks > > >  > > > D.Senthil> > > > > > > > > > > hen--- On Fri, 7/24/09, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote:> > > > > > > > GOOD> > > > > Senthil <athi_ram@ .> > > Re: Birth Time Rectifi_ram@ ya> > > > > > @gro ups.com> > > Friday, July 24,>> > > M> > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear MS chandra,> > >  > > > I have requested members who are sitting at various places  > > > , UK, AUS, UAE etc) to do the exercise and to post the RP details for studyingo ae siations between the various RP's working around the world but none of them given. So at least RP fr sty judgment place is given below for information.> > >  > > > DOJ:25-07-2009> > > TOJ:10:45 hrs> > > POJ:Seoul,South Korea> > > GG.Lat. 37:nt 00 N> > > GG.Lng. 127:03: 00 mat> > GC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N> > > Ayana 23:54:15> > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RP> > > Sign> > > Sta N> > > > >  N> > > ub1> > > Sub2> > > > > > ASC> > > MER> > > MOO> > > MAR> > > RAH®> > > > > > MOO> > > SUN> > > VEN> > > > > > ®> > > VEN> > > > > >  > > > GOOD LUCK!> > >  > > > Thanks> > >  > > > D.SenthiER> > > > >  > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 7/13/09, sathish> RAH(Ra <inf2sathish@ > wrote:> > > Thank> > > > > > >  > > >> > > > > > > sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ >> > > ndra <i: Birth Time Rectification> > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > Monday, July 13, 2009, 5:26 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Member,> > > > > > I would be thankful to you All,> > > Could you please Rectify My Brith Time to Micro Level I am Placing all my Lift Time Events.> > > > > > My DOB   : 30th Nov, 1976.> > > Time         : 16:18 to 16:30 in between only.> > > Place        : Hanamkonda : Andhra Pradesh : India> > > Lattitude    : 018:10:00> > > Longitude   : 079:46:00> > > > > > My Lift Events.> > > > > > 1) I am Elder Son after me 1 Sister 2 Brothers.> > > 2) Education Gaps from 1994 to 1997 ( Worked earned some money)> > > 3) Graduation Started in 1997 and Completed in 2000. > > > 4) Post Graduation in IT 2000-20002 October.> > > 5) Joined in SW Job 28th October, 2004 in Mumbai> > > 6) Marriage : 10 Nov, 2005 Muhurth : 21:35 (Gemini Lagna)> > > 7) My Wife : Born in Punarvasu 3rd Pada: Leo Ascendant : Date of Birth : 5th September,1980 Time : 05:05 am> > > 8) My son Date of Birth : 8th March, 2007 at 10:26am Swathi, Tarus Asc > > > 9) 21st May, 2007 Moved to Pune to new Job S/w> > > 10) April, 24,2009 was my Last working day in My S/w Job.> > > 11) 5th June, 2009 Moved to UK.> > > > > > Regards,> > > MS chandra> > >> >> See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. 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Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Dear VGR, Please see the attachment for the power point presentation. Dr. Rath vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2009 11:44:04 PMRe: Re: Birth Time Rectification Rath ji Pranam ,Sir can you give me those illustrations for my study thanking youPeace and Prosperity to All !!VGR--- On Sat, 1/8/09, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: Re: Birth Time Rectification@gro ups.comSaturday, 1 August, 2009, 7:30 PM Dear Bohraji, Your way of selection of significators is correct. Your concept about the mahadasa lord and period is correct as well. Now for fructification of marriage we have to consider the DBA and S. the lords all of them must signify either of 2, or 7, or 11. Athe the same time they should not signify house X. In my study of few cases of denial of marriage I have found in many of cases the significators were associated with X. Of course my stdy was related to the VII cusp sub lord. If it is true with VII cusp sub lord it should also be considered seriously whne considering the other significators as well. Lastly I would like to point out that the DBAS lords should transit in VII hoouse on the date of the celebration. I think this answers your doubts. With regards. Dr. Rath msbohra62 <msbohra62 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comSaturday, August 1, 2009 1:37:26 AM Re: Birth Time Rectification Dear Dr.Rath,I am new student in Kp astrology but what i have understand,i will try to explain here.1.CSL of 7th at least must be significant of any 2,7,11 than marriage will be happened.Here 7th CSL is Venus which lord of 2nd and 7th so Venus is significator of these group for marriage and Venus is posited in his star ,if any planet posited in own star than we take Sub lord as star of that planet,here mercury is Sub lord of Venus.again the CSL of 11th is Venus here.2.For marriage Mahadasha lord should significator of any 2,7,11 cusp along with the Sub lord of that Mahadasha lord should be significant of any 2,7,11 cusp, than the marriage will be happened in the Mohandas of that planet.Here Mohandas lord is mercury which posited in his own star and Sub of Jupiter.So we will take Jupiter as the star of Mercury and Jupiter is posited in 2 cusp.Mars is Sub-Sub lord of Mercury so it will play the role of Sub lord and it is posited in Saturn star which is 11th lord.As i have understand about significant of any cusp are should be as :-1.Significance of any cusp,Posited planet in Star lord of posited planet in cusp.2.Posited planet in cusp.3.Posited planet in the star of cusps lord.4.Cusps lord.5.Any 'Yukti" with above planets.6.Any relation be"Drashti-Sabhand" by any planet as above significant.Dr.Rath, may be i am wrong to apply the rule of KP because i am in learning period,you can correct me as guide line to me.I will be happy to learn by you.Thanks,M.S.Bohra@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bohraji,> You have mentioned that marriage took place in Merc-Sat-Sat- Sat-Mars period. May be your are right by corelating these planets with the sub lord of VII cusp. I have nothing to comment on other aspects.But did you find out the signifiers of II, VII ans XI? Did Mercury, Saturn and Mars appear as fruitful significators for marriage? I think they should also appear in the 5 grades of significators as per KP. Your response is awaited for.> Dr. Rath> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> msbohra62 <msbohra62@. ..>> @gro ups.com> Friday, July 31, 2009 5:38:20 PM> Re: Birth Time Rectification> >  > Dear friends > > I have forget that movements of every Lagana is not the same as per lagana in two hours.Aries have fast speed in movement so the calculation for 2Degree and 33 Kala will be accordingly. It was the mistake in my first post in thread.> > Thanks,> > M.S.Bohra> > @gro ups.com, "msbohra62" <msbohra62@ ..> wrote:> >> > Dear Senthil ji,> > > > I am getting the right time of Birth is 16:27:20(In previous post something is wrong) where Ascendant is Sun(Sign)-Mars( SL)-Jupiter( Sub.L)-Ke( Sub-Sub.L) .For marriage we look for 7th CSL should have relation with 2nd,11th CSL.Here 7th CSL is Venus.Venus is in the star of Venus than we look for Sub lord which is Mercury.11th CSL is again Venus and 2nd CSL is Saturn.Saturn is in the star of Mercury.Saturn is the star of Mars.> > > > The Native have did the marriage on 10th Nov;2005.As above birth time at the time of marriage the Dasa period is Mer-Sat-Sat- Sat-Mars.> > > > Is this all give the indication that birth time is correct as above mentioned ?> > > > Please let me know i am on right way or wrong some where.> > > > Thanks,> > > > M.S.Bohra> > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Senthil <athi_ram@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Punit,> > >  > > > You may please verify the birth time of the chart with urge and submit the RP at your place. Whatever time you fell as per your analysis also may be submitted. Your cooperation will help members to study how the RP works for diff place with different astrologer & the relations between them etc. > > >  > > > Can you please do the exercise for research purpose?> > > > > >  > > > Thanks> > >  > ‚ > > > D.Senthil> > > > > > > > > d, 77n9/09,,729/ 09,, Punit Pandey <punitp@> wrote:> > > > > >> >m:> Punit Pandey <punitp@>> > > Re:] B Birth Time rth Time Rectification> > > @gro ups.com> > > Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 4:00 AM> > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Adith ji,> > >  > > > I would not = = N"RP Moon= Natal Asc and RP Asc=Natal Moon?" a rule but a theory which is under observation. Truly speaking, I don't have much success with this theory. I have seen the present Moon position can tell either birth Moon position or birth Ascendant position, similarly for present Ascendant position. > > >  > > > I believe more research is required on this theory. > > > & & R Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > Puni> > > > > > > > > > >ul ul 29Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:16 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > l,> > > Dear l,> > > > > > Noted that6.36.37. 07is 16.30.07. with07.c-Mars- Sun-ars-uun- u !!!> > > > > > But where is the fuf thei > d r tes :> ules :>nd RatP Moond ld oln= ctal> Monoon?>> MoMoon?> > > Mocn?> > > A > > >nrd= > > > >> > > > > > > >d.sinsins ixed using thesins and fixing> > > tfe' ..> > >> > > wife's.> > > But the Buc the Asd isbloru should have con star lord,the Moon star lord, Saresent,s hope hopepresent, I hopethe mostt rthe mostthe myotcheleI: If yu yocheFYI: If you check cy the ths= , theithey the is exactly the Birth Moonrth Mwas chos cho)c. sub was chosen either Sun,Moon, orMoonu. Out of ed d for tn was selected for the reason Sun rn,ithern,sthe of Saturn, the Moon star lord. The rdh ThL will be Venus in whose sign Jupiter(wife star) is located.> > > > > > Hope you can give your study on the analysis on RPSe pas e all the all th> > ope real eg> n> > gardgt> Reg> >gardgard> gardgards> > >egardh> > > wwwth> > > www.theo. com > > > > > > > > > e, Jul > e, Jul > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote:> > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ms Ch> > aFu> >  > > > Further to my E-mail below, tbel RBT which i have fixed based on the RP for my place is given with detaile> nalysis.> > > > 5-0is.> > > DOJ:25-07-2025-> > > TOJ:10:45 hrs > > > POJ:Seoul,South Korea > > > GG.Lat. 37:35: 00 127:> GG.Lng. 127:03: 00 E> > > GC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N > > > Ayana 23:54:15 > > >  > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RP> > > > > > Sign> > > > > > ub1r> > > > > >Subb1> > > > > > Sub2> > >> S> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASC> > > > > > MER> > > > > > MOO> > > > > > MAR> > > > > > RAH®> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SUN> > > > > > VEN> > > > > > > > RAH®> > > > > > VEN> > >  > > > As per the given date/place and time between 16:18 to 16:30 the ascendant falls in MARS sign â€"SUN Star. > > > > > > > > > Rule-1 The > ===== > > > The RP ascendant sub lord will revearyqhe nature of queryque> > >  ÂÂ> rect. > > >  > > > Rule-2 > > > ===== > > > B> > > Bi = RP Moon > > > Birth Moo= RP Asc > > >  > > > The SUN is RP Moon sign lord. The birth ascendan :54 >alls from 16:19:54 to 16:32:c =Hrs in SUN star. Hence Birth ascendant musthee MAR-SU RAN mustther VEN or RAH must be the sub lord. Node is stronger than planet and th avt mableVEN sub is avt mable between the 16:19:54 Hrs to 16:32:10 Hrs. Hence RAH is considered as tr tascendant sufallsd. The RAH sub falls from 16:2. No tbef6:32:1xinrs. Now before fixing the sub lord let us s etare wifeà Punâ„¢s star. It is PER rpgn-JUrd Pada (MER sign-JUP star). Between 16:297th CS 16:30:06 Hrs 7th CSL falls asus see th froe’:3sta7 Hrsis wards MOO sub starts and MOO is occupied itwJen sign (in NATAL chart) which is his wife star. Hence I have selected 16:30:07 Hrs issubs correct birth time. > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RP> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sign> > > > > > Star> > > > > > Sub1> > > > > > Sub2> > > > > > >> M> ASC> > > > > > MAR> > > > > > SUN> > > > > > RAH®> > > > > > RAH®> > > > > > > > > MOO> > > > > > SAT®>> > > > > SAT®> > > > > >> SR> > > > > > RAH®> > >  > > > Now for 16:30:07 hrs birth time, MOO pAH(tion JUP®-SAT® -M> MRAH( R) > > >  > > > Only MER is appearing is RP Asc Sign lord and JUP:30, SAT® areh tt directly connected. But in the birth Chart > > > ® is in MOO-Mis MAR which appearing in RP ascendant hence SAT star is OK. > > >  > > > So his RBT is in:30:07 hrs > > >  > > > GOOD LUCK! > > >  > > > Thanks > > >  > > > D.Senthil> > > > > > > > > > > hen--- On Fri, 7/24/09, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote:> > > > > > > > GOOD> > > > > Senthil <athi_ram@ .> > > Re: Birth Time Rectifi_ram@ ya> > > > > > @gro ups.com> > > Friday, July 24,>> > > M> > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear MS chandra,> > >  > > > I have requested members who are sitting at various places  > > > , UK, AUS, UAE etc) to do the exercise and to post the RP details for studyingo ae siations between the various RP's working around the world but none of them given. So at least RP fr sty judgment place is given below for information.> > >  > > > DOJ:25-07-2009> > > TOJ:10:45 hrs> > > POJ:Seoul,South Korea> > > GG.Lat. 37:nt 00 N> > > GG.Lng. 127:03: 00 mat> > GC.Lat. 37:23: 51 N> > > Ayana 23:54:15> > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RP> > > Sign> > > Sta N> > > > >  N> > > ub1> > > Sub2> > > > > > ASC> > > MER> > > MOO> > > MAR> > > RAH®> > > > > > MOO> > > SUN> > > VEN> > > > > > ®> > > VEN> > > > > >  > > > GOOD LUCK!> > >  > > > Thanks> > >  > > > D.SenthiER> > > > >  > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 7/13/09, sathish> RAH(Ra <inf2sathish@ > wrote:> > > Thank> > > > > > >  > > >> > > > > > > sathish chandra <inf2sathish@ >> > > ndra <i: Birth Time Rectification> > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > Monday, July 13, 2009, 5:26 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Member,> > > > > > I would be thankful to you All,> > > Could you please Rectify My Brith Time to Micro Level I am Placing all my Lift Time Events.> > > > > > My DOB   : 30th Nov, 1976.> > > Time         : 16:18 to 16:30 in between only.> > > Place        : Hanamkonda : Andhra Pradesh : India> > > Lattitude    : 018:10:00> > > Longitude   : 079:46:00> > > > > > My Lift Events.> > > > > > 1) I am Elder Son after me 1 Sister 2 Brothers.> > > 2) Education Gaps from 1994 to 1997 ( Worked earned some money)> > > 3) Graduation Started in 1997 and Completed in 2000. > > > 4) Post Graduation in IT 2000-20002 October.> > > 5) Joined in SW Job 28th October, 2004 in Mumbai> > > 6) Marriage : 10 Nov, 2005 Muhurth : 21:35 (Gemini Lagna)> > > 7) My Wife : Born in Punarvasu 3rd Pada: Leo Ascendant : Date of Birth : 5th September,1980 Time : 05:05 am> > > 8) My son Date of Birth : 8th March, 2007 at 10:26am Swathi, Tarus Asc > > > 9) 21st May, 2007 Moved to Pune to new Job S/w> > > 10) April, 24,2009 was my Last working day in My S/w Job.> > > 11) 5th June, 2009 Moved to UK.> > > > > > Regards,> > > MS chandra> > >> >> See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. 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