Guest guest Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008  || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah Hari Om, Dear friends, The birth Time now stands corrected within 15 seconds.17:18 :00 to 17;18:15. Can some senior demonstrate important life events by KP . It will be good for learning application of KP principals as how they should be applied. Hope somone will oblige w.r.t known events. with best wishes, OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCS -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - Yogesh Rao Lajmi Friday, August 22, 2008 10:04 AM Re: Birth time rectification Dear Dhanabalan, Alonwith pl. find your Birth Chart with the rectified TOB,as per K.P.,and using Mr.Raichur's SW,and NKPA... With best wishes, L.Yogesh Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan >kpsystem groups Thursday, 21 August, 2008 11:09:27 PM Birth time rectification Dear members Rectification of birth time using Uttarakalamrita method: DOB 5-8-1954 at Salem, Tamilnadu. (This method has been recommended by Mr.KSK in pages 401 to 409 of original volume II) Week day of birth:Thursday( 5th from Sunday) Birth star: Chitra(5th from Magam) IST (Birth time) 17.19.15 17.18.20 17.17.25 LMT correction 00.17.20 00.17.20 00.17.20 LMT (rounded value) 17.0 17.0 17.0 Sunrise(LMT) 06.08.53 6.1 6.1 6.1 Difference 10.9 10.9 10.9 Istahal 27.2 27.2 27.1 Vighatis*4/9, Reminder for birth star(Chitra) 5 5 5 Required value from Aswini,Magam, Mulam 5 5 5 Vighatis/225, Reminder 58 55 53 Required value for male 0-15, 46-90, 151-225 o.k. o.k o.k. Vighatis*3/7, Reminder for week day 5 5 5 Required value for week day 5 5 5 Hence the rectified birth time may be 17.19’.15’’ or 17.18’.20’’ or 17.17’.25’’ Modified version of Uttarakalamrita by Rajagopalachariar: In his method, the BTR comes 16.46.50 or 16.45.55 or 16.45.00 ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---- Another rule of Mr..KSK (page 31 of volume I(1966) “Moons sub and star at the time of birth will be governed by the dasanatha and bukthinatha or the lords of the star in which they were found in the parent’s charts.†My first child born on 15-6-1979 at 7.21AM in Salem , Tamilnadu (Normal delivery) Moon sub of the child at the time of birth: Mercury Moon star of the child at the time of birth:Mars Father’s dasanatha(running) :Jupiter; lord of the constellation is Jupiter Father’s bukthinatha( running): Mercury; Lord of the constellation is Jupiter The moon sub is not connected with father’s dasanatha or its star The moon star is not connected with father’s bukthinatha or its star. Dhanabalan Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Dear Mr.Dhanabalan, Attached pl. find your Birth Chart,with your exact TOB,using Mr.Raichur's SW... It is 17-18-15 P.M. IST. With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. ----- Forwarded Message ----Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 Sent: Friday, 22 August, 2008 10:04:36 AMRe: Birth time rectification Dear Dhanabalan, Alonwith pl. find your Birth Chart with the rectified TOB,as per K.P.,and using Mr.Raichur's SW,and NKPA... With best wishes, L.Yogesh Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalankpsystem groups Thursday, 21 August, 2008 11:09:27 PM Birth time rectification Dear members Rectification of birth time using Uttarakalamrita method: DOB 5-8-1954 at Salem, Tamilnadu. (This method has been recommended by Mr.KSK in pages 401 to 409 of original volume II) Week day of birth:Thursday( 5th from Sunday) Birth star: Chitra(5th from Magam) IST (Birth time) 17.19.15 17.18.20 17.17.25 LMT correction 00.17.20 00.17.20 00.17.20 LMT (rounded value) 17.0 17.0 17.0 Sunrise(LMT) 06.08.53 6.1 6.1 6.1 Difference 10.9 10.9 10.9 Istahal 27.2 27.2 27.1 Vighatis*4/9, Reminder for birth star(Chitra) 5 5 5 Required value from Aswini,Magam, Mulam 5 5 5 Vighatis/225, Reminder 58 55 53 Required value for male 0-15, 46-90, 151-225 o.k. o.k o.k. Vighatis*3/7, Reminder for week day 5 5 5 Required value for week day 5 5 5 Hence the rectified birth time may be 17.19’.15’’ or 17.18’.20’’ or 17.17’.25’’ Modified version of Uttarakalamrita by Rajagopalachariar: In his method, the BTR comes 16.46.50 or 16.45.55 or 16.45.00 ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---- Another rule of Mr..KSK (page 31 of volume I(1966) “Moons sub and star at the time of birth will be governed by the dasanatha and bukthinatha or the lords of the star in which they were found in the parent’s charts.†My first child born on 15-6-1979 at 7.21AM in Salem , Tamilnadu (Normal delivery) Moon sub of the child at the time of birth: Mercury Moon star of the child at the time of birth:Mars Father’s dasanatha(running) :Jupiter; lord of the constellation is Jupiter Father’s bukthinatha( running): Mercury; Lord of the constellation is Jupiter The moon sub is not connected with father’s dasanatha or its star The moon star is not connected with father’s bukthinatha or its star. Dhanabalan Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now M A N G E S H M A H A L A X M I P R A S S A N N A L.Y.RAO-La-Vista; 132 Shivaji Park Rd.2 Mumbai 400 028 TEL: 2446 7314 email: lyastro1 BIRTH DETAILS OF Mr.R.Dhanabalan. REF NO KP site FATHER'S NAME :NA GOTRA :NA DETAILS OF BIRTH CHART DATE : 5 8 1954 OTHER USEFUL INFORMATION DAY : THURSDAY RASI : TULA TIME : 17 H. 18 M. 15 S. STAR : Chitt PLACE : SALEM TAMIL NADU; CHARANA : FOURTH COUNTRY :INDIA NADI : MADHYA YONI : VYAGHRA LAT. : 11 Deg. 39 Min. N GANA : RAKSHASA LONG. : 78 Deg. 10 Min. E VARNA : SHUDRA LAGNA. : Sagitarius-Dhanus TATWA : VAYU LORD : Jup VASHYA : MANAVA RASI : Libra-Thulam LORD : Ven GHATACHAKRA [MALEFICS] NAKSHATRA : Chitt 4 - Pada MONTH : MAGHA NAK.LORD : Mar TITHI : 4-9-14 TITHI : 7 DAY : GURUVAR SID.TIME : 13 H. 54 M. 53 S. STAR : SHATTARA AYANAMSA : 23 D. 7 M. 58 S. PRAHARA : 4th SUN SIGN : LEO (Sayana) CHANDRA : 3rd Cast By L.Y.RAO ON 21-08-2008 Programme by RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77 TRADITIONAL RASI CHART -PLANETS WITH + ARE RETROGRADE NAKSHATRA: Chitt PADA - 4 DASA BAL. Mars 0 Y. 270 Days ENDS ON 2 5 1955 |------------------------------| |FOR. | | |JUP. KETU | | | | | | | | | | | |------------------------------| | | |SUN. MERC URAN | | | | | | | | | |---------------| |---------------| | | |PLUT | | | | | | | | | |------------------------------| |ASC.......MARS | |MOON SAT. NEPT |VEN. | |RAHU | | | | | | | | | |------------------------------| TRADITIONAL NAVAMSA CHART |------------------------------| | |MARS JUP. KETU | | | | |PLUT | | | | | | | | |------------------------------| | | |MERC URAN | | | | | | | | | |---------------| |---------------| |VEN. SAT. | | | | | | | | | | | |------------------------------| |ASC.......SUN. |MOON FOR. |RAHU NEPT | | | | | | | | | | | | |------------------------------| Cast By L.Y.RAO ON 21-08-2008 VIMSOTTARI DASAS --- BHUKTIES Mar DASA 01 05 1948 -> 01 05 1955 |Rah DASA 01 05 1955 -> 01 05 1973 |Rah Bhk. 01 05 1955 -> 13 01 1958 |Jup Bhk. 13 01 1958 -> 07 06 1960 |Sat Bhk. 07 06 1960 -> 13 04 1963 |Mer Bhk. 13 04 1963 -> 01 11 1965 |Ket Bhk. 01 11 1965 -> 19 11 1966 |Ven Bhk. 19 11 1966 -> 19 11 1969 |Sun Bhk. 19 11 1969 -> 13 10 1970 Sun Bhk. 05 08 1954 -> 01 10 1954 |Moo Bhk. 13 10 1970 -> 13 04 1972 Moo Bhk. 01 10 1954 -> 01 05 1955 |Mar Bhk. 13 04 1972 -> 01 05 1973 Jup DASA 01 05 1973 -> 01 05 1989 |Sat DASA 01 05 1989 -> 01 05 2008 Jup Bhk. 01 05 1973 -> 19 06 1975 |Sat Bhk. 01 05 1989 -> 04 05 1992 Sat Bhk. 19 06 1975 -> 01 01 1978 |Mer Bhk. 04 05 1992 -> 13 01 1995 Mer Bhk. 01 01 1978 -> 07 04 1980 |Ket Bhk. 13 01 1995 -> 22 02 1996 Ket Bhk. 07 04 1980 -> 13 03 1981 |Ven Bhk. 22 02 1996 -> 22 04 1999 Ven Bhk. 13 03 1981 -> 13 11 1983 |Sun Bhk. 22 04 1999 -> 04 04 2000 Sun Bhk. 13 11 1983 -> 01 09 1984 |Moo Bhk. 04 04 2000 -> 04 11 2001 Moo Bhk. 01 09 1984 -> 01 01 1986 |Mar Bhk. 04 11 2001 -> 13 12 2002 Mar Bhk. 01 01 1986 -> 07 12 1986 |Rah Bhk. 13 12 2002 -> 19 10 2005 Rah Bhk. 07 12 1986 -> 01 05 1989 |Jup Bhk. 19 10 2005 -> 01 05 2008 Mer DASA 01 05 2008 -> 01 05 2025 |Ket DASA 01 05 2025 -> 01 05 2032 Mer Bhk. 01 05 2008 -> 28 09 2010 |Ket Bhk. 01 05 2025 -> 28 09 2025 Ket Bhk. 28 09 2010 -> 25 09 2011 |Ven Bhk. 28 09 2025 -> 28 11 2026 Ven Bhk. 25 09 2011 -> 25 07 2014 |Sun Bhk. 28 11 2026 -> 04 04 2027 Sun Bhk. 25 07 2014 -> 01 06 2015 |Moo Bhk. 04 04 2027 -> 04 11 2027 Moo Bhk. 01 06 2015 -> 01 11 2016 |Mar Bhk. 04 11 2027 -> 01 04 2028 Mar Bhk. 01 11 2016 -> 28 10 2017 |Rah Bhk. 01 04 2028 -> 19 04 2029 Rah Bhk. 28 10 2017 -> 16 05 2020 |Jup Bhk. 19 04 2029 -> 25 03 2030 Jup Bhk. 16 05 2020 -> 22 08 2022 |Sat Bhk. 25 03 2030 -> 04 05 2031 Sat Bhk. 22 08 2022 -> 01 05 2025 |Mer Bhk. 04 05 2031 -> 01 05 2032 Ven DASA 01 05 2032 -> 01 05 2052 |Sun DASA 01 05 2052 -> 01 05 2058 Ven Bhk. 01 05 2032 -> 01 09 2035 |Sun Bhk. 01 05 2052 -> 19 08 2052 Sun Bhk. 01 09 2035 -> 01 09 2036 |Moo Bhk. 19 08 2052 -> 19 02 2053 Moo Bhk. 01 09 2036 -> 01 05 2038 |Mar Bhk. 19 02 2053 -> 25 06 2053 Mar Bhk. 01 05 2038 -> 01 07 2039 |Rah Bhk. 25 06 2053 -> 19 05 2054 Rah Bhk. 01 07 2039 -> 01 07 2042 |Jup Bhk. 19 05 2054 -> 07 03 2055 Jup Bhk. 01 07 2042 -> 03 03 2045 |Sat Bhk. 07 03 2055 -> 19 02 2056 Sat Bhk. 03 03 2045 -> 01 05 2048 |Mer Bhk. 19 02 2056 -> 25 12 2056 Mer Bhk. 01 05 2048 -> 03 03 2051 |Ket Bhk. 25 12 2056 -> 01 05 2057 Ket Bhk. 03 03 2051 -> 01 05 2052 |Ven Bhk. 01 05 2057 -> 01 05 2058 Moo DASA 01 05 2058 -> 01 05 2068 | Moo Bhk. 01 05 2058 -> 01 03 2059 | Mar Bhk. 01 03 2059 -> 01 10 2059 | Rah Bhk. 01 10 2059 -> 01 04 2061 | Jup Bhk. 01 04 2061 -> 31 07 2062 | Sat Bhk. 31 07 2062 -> 03 03 2064 | Mer Bhk. 03 03 2064 -> 31 07 2065 | Ket Bhk. 31 07 2065 -> 03 03 2066 | Ven Bhk. 03 03 2066 -> 31 10 2067 | Sun Bhk. 31 10 2067 -> 01 05 2068 | SAT Dasa 1 5 1989 TO 1 5 2008 SAT Bhk. 1 5 1989 TO 4 5 1992 |MER Bhk. 4 5 1992 TO 13 1 1995 SAT Ant. 1 5 1989 TO 22 10 1989 |MER Ant. 4 5 1992 TO 21 9 1992 MER Ant. 22 10 1989 TO 26 3 1990 |KET Ant. 21 9 1992 TO 18 11 1992 KET Ant. 26 3 1990 TO 29 5 1990 |VEN Ant. 18 11 1992 TO 29 4 1993 VEN Ant. 29 5 1990 TO 30 11 1990 |SUN Ant. 29 4 1993 TO 18 6 1993 SUN Ant. 30 11 1990 TO 24 1 1991 |MOO Ant. 18 6 1993 TO 9 9 1993 MOO Ant. 24 1 1991 TO 24 4 1991 |MAR Ant. 9 9 1993 TO 5 11 1993 MAR Ant. 24 4 1991 TO 27 6 1991 |RAH Ant. 5 11 1993 TO 30 3 1994 RAH Ant. 27 6 1991 TO 10 12 1991 |JUP Ant. 30 3 1994 TO 10 8 1994 JUP Ant. 10 12 1991 TO 4 5 1992 |SAT Ant. 10 8 1994 TO 13 1 1995 KET Bhk. 13 1 1995 TO 22 2 1996 |VEN Bhk. 22 2 1996 TO 22 4 1999 KET Ant. 13 1 1995 TO 6 2 1995 |VEN Ant. 22 2 1996 TO 2 9 1996 VEN Ant. 6 2 1995 TO 13 4 1995 |SUN Ant. 2 9 1996 TO 29 10 1996 SUN Ant. 13 4 1995 TO 3 5 1995 |MOO Ant. 29 10 1996 TO 4 2 1997 MOO Ant. 3 5 1995 TO 6 6 1995 |MAR Ant. 4 2 1997 TO 10 4 1997 MAR Ant. 6 6 1995 TO 29 6 1995 |RAH Ant. 10 4 1997 TO 1 10 1997 RAH Ant. 29 6 1995 TO 29 8 1995 |JUP Ant. 1 10 1997 TO 3 3 1998 JUP Ant. 29 8 1995 TO 22 10 1995 |SAT Ant. 3 3 1998 TO 4 9 1998 SAT Ant. 22 10 1995 TO 26 12 1995 |MER Ant. 4 9 1998 TO 15 2 1999 MER Ant. 26 12 1995 TO 22 2 1996 |KET Ant. 15 2 1999 TO 22 4 1999 SUN Bhk. 22 4 1999 TO 4 4 2000 |MOO Bhk. 4 4 2000 TO 4 11 2001 SUN Ant. 22 4 1999 TO 9 5 1999 |MOO Ant. 4 4 2000 TO 21 5 2000 MOO Ant. 9 5 1999 TO 8 6 1999 |MAR Ant. 21 5 2000 TO 25 6 2000 MAR Ant. 8 6 1999 TO 28 6 1999 |RAH Ant. 25 6 2000 TO 20 9 2000 RAH Ant. 28 6 1999 TO 19 8 1999 |JUP Ant. 20 9 2000 TO 6 12 2000 JUP Ant. 19 8 1999 TO 4 10 1999 |SAT Ant. 6 12 2000 TO 6 3 2001 SAT Ant. 4 10 1999 TO 29 11 1999 |MER Ant. 6 3 2001 TO 27 5 2001 MER Ant. 29 11 1999 TO 17 1 2000 |KET Ant. 27 5 2001 TO 1 7 2001 KET Ant. 17 1 2000 TO 7 2 2000 |VEN Ant. 1 7 2001 TO 6 10 2001 VEN Ant. 7 2 2000 TO 4 4 2000 |SUN Ant. 6 10 2001 TO 4 11 2001 MAR Bhk. 4 11 2001 TO 13 12 2002 |RAH Bhk. 13 12 2002 TO 19 10 2005 MAR Ant. 4 11 2001 TO 27 11 2001 |RAH Ant. 13 12 2002 TO 17 5 2003 RAH Ant. 27 11 2001 TO 27 1 2002 |JUP Ant. 17 5 2003 TO 4 10 2003 JUP Ant. 27 1 2002 TO 20 3 2002 |SAT Ant. 4 10 2003 TO 16 3 2004 SAT Ant. 20 3 2002 TO 24 5 2002 |MER Ant. 16 3 2004 TO 11 8 2004 MER Ant. 24 5 2002 TO 20 7 2002 |KET Ant. 11 8 2004 TO 11 10 2004 KET Ant. 20 7 2002 TO 13 8 2002 |VEN Ant. 11 10 2004 TO 2 4 2005 VEN Ant. 13 8 2002 TO 20 10 2002 |SUN Ant. 2 4 2005 TO 24 5 2005 SUN Ant. 20 10 2002 TO 10 11 2002 |MOO Ant. 24 5 2005 TO 19 8 2005 MOO Ant. 10 11 2002 TO 13 12 2002 |MAR Ant. 19 8 2005 TO 19 10 2005 JUP Bhk. 19 10 2005 TO 1 5 2008 JUP Ant. 19 10 2005 TO 21 2 2006 SAT Ant. 21 2 2006 TO 15 7 2006 MER Ant. 15 7 2006 TO 24 11 2006 KET Ant. 24 11 2006 TO 17 1 2007 VEN Ant. 17 1 2007 TO 19 6 2007 SUN Ant. 19 6 2007 TO 5 8 2007 MOO Ant. 5 8 2007 TO 21 10 2007 MAR Ant. 21 10 2007 TO 14 12 2007 RAH Ant. 14 12 2007 TO 1 5 2008 M A N G E S H M A H A L A X M I P R A S S A N N A L.Y.RAO-La-Vista; 132 Shivaji Park Rd.2 Mumbai 400 028 TEL: 2446 7314 email: lyastro1 BIRTH DETAILS OF Mr.R.Dhanabalan. W E S T E R N A S P E C T S Plan. SUN. MOON MARS MERC JUP. VEN. SAT. RAHU KETU URAN NEPT FOR. PLUT SUN. 135 150 MOON SXTL CONJ CONJ MARS MERC 150 SXTL CONJ SQUR Ssxt JUP. OPP CONJ CONJ VEN. SQUR SAT. RAHU OPP SQUR KETU URAN SQUR Ssxt NEPT FOR. 135 PLUT Planet ASC 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th 12th SUN. Ssqr 135 MOON TRIN 150 OPP CONJ Ssxt SXTL MARS SXTL SQUR TRIN OPP CONJ MERC OPP CONJ Ssxt SXTL SQUR TRIN 150 JUP. OPP CONJ 135 VEN. TRIN 150 OPP CONJ SXTL SQUR SAT. OPP CONJ RAHU KETU URAN OPP CONJ Ssxt SXTL SQUR TRIN 150 NEPT SQUR TRIN OPP CONJ SXTL FOR. 135 PLUT 150 OPP CONJ SXTL SQUR TRIN ORBS Conj,opp =8.Sq. Trine 6,SEXT 6,Semis 2, Rest 2 deg. -------------------------------- | | | | | | | | | | |For 15 1 31| | |VI 2 35 8| |III 5 25 46| | |Ketu 20 9 1| | |IV 7 42 48|V 6 21 37|Jup 23 12 9| | | | |VII 29 9 9| | | | | | -------------------------------- | | NAME:Mr.R.Dhanabalan. | | | | THURSDAY 5 8 1954 | | | | Time 17 18 15 | | |II 1 26 13| |Uran 1 25 32| | | SID.TIME 13 h. 54 m. 53 s. |Merc 3 9 38| | | |Sun 19 23 6| | | NAKS:Chitt-PADA 4 | | | | | | :---------------| PLACE:SALEM TAMI |---------------| | | | | | | LAT 11 deg 39 min N | | | | | | | | Long 78 deg 10 min E | | | | |Plut 1 7 16| | | Ayan 23 d. 7 m. 58 s. |VIII 1 26 13| | | | | | |CAST BY:L.Y.RAO | | -------------------------------- | | | | | | | | | | |Asc. 29 9 9| |Sat 10 12 41| | |Rahu 20 9 1|X1 6 21 38|X 7 42 48| | |Mars 2 46 49| |Moon 5 15 29|Ven 2 59 11| |XII 2 35 8| |Nept 0 25 8|IX 5 25 46| | | | | | | | | | | -------------------------------- DASA BAL. Mars 0 Y. 270 Days ENDS ON 2 5 1955 BHK. Bal. Sun. 0 Y. 57 Days: ANT. Bal. Sat. 10 Days: SOOK Bal. Ven. 0 Days CUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsL RULING PLANETS ASC Jup Sun Mar Sun :SUN. Moo Mer Ven Ven ASC STL :Sun 2nd Sat Mar Mer Jup :MOON Ven Mar Sun Sat ASC SGL :Jup 3rd Jup Sat Sat Jup :MARS Jup Ket Ven Mer MOON STL:Mar 4th Mar Ket Jup Jup :MERC Moo Jup Rah Moo MOON SGL:Ven 5th Ven Sun Mer Rah :JUP. Mer Jup Sat Mar DAY LORD :JUP. 6th Mer Mar Ket Mer :VEN. Mer Sun Jup Rah 7th Mer Jup Sun Sat :SAT. Ven Rah Jup Rah 8th Sun Ket Ven Moo :RAHU Jup Ven Jup Jup 9th Mer Sun Mer Ket :KETU Mer Jup Jup Jup 10th Ven Rah Rah Mer :URAN Moo Jup Rah Rah 11th Mar Sat Mer Moo :NEPT Ven Mar Mer Ven 12th Jup Ket Ven Mer :FOR. Jup Sat Jup Jup :PLUT Sun Ket Ven Ven SIGNIFICATORS OF HOUSES SIGNIFICATORS ARE SHOWN IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER OF IMPORTANCE A-Planets in Star of Occupants of House: B-Planets in House C-Planets in stars of House Lord: D-House Lord: E= Planets Aspected by A,B,C,D Trad aspects BY SIGN : F=Sub Lord Check Lords of planets near cusps ! HOUSE A B C D E F ---- ASC | | |MER:JUP:KET|Jup|MO:MA:SA:RA|Mar | | |URA: | |KE:SU:JU: | 2nd | | |FOR: |Sat|SU:MO:MA:ME|Mer | | | | |RA: | 3rd | |FOR: |MER:JUP:KET|Jup|MO:MA:SA:RA|Sat | | |URA: | |KE:SU:JU: | 4th | | |MOO:NEP: |Mar|SU:ME:JU:RA|Jup | | | | |KE:SA: | 5th | | |RAH: |Ven|MA:JU:KE: |Mer | | | | | | 6th |MER:JUP:KET:URA|JUP:KET: |SUN: |Mer|SU:ME:MO:MA|Ket |MAR:PLU: | | | |SA:RA:KE:JU| 7th |VEN:SUN: |SUN:MER:URA: |SUN: |Mer|SU:ME: |Sun | | | | | | 8th | |PLU: |VEN: |Sun|ME: |Ven | | | | | | 9th |RAH: |VEN:NEP: |SUN: |Mer|SU:ME:MA:JU|Mer | | | | |KE: | 10th |FOR: |MOO:SAT: |RAH: |Ven|MA:JU:KE:SA|Rah | | | | |SU:MO:ME:RA| 11th | | |MOO:NEP: |Mar|SU:ME:JU:RA|Mer | | | | |KE:SA: | 12th |MOO:NEP:SAT: |MAR:RAH: |MER:JUP:KET|Jup|MO:MA:SA:RA|Ven | | |URA: | |KE:SU:JU:ME| ---- PLANET House Numbers Signified: Aspecting Planets SUN. A-07,B-07,C-06,C-07,C-09,D-08,:MA:ME:SA:F- 7, MOON A-12,B-10,C-04,C-11, :JU:SA:F- MARS A-06,B-12,D-04,D-11, :JU:SA:RA:KE:F- 1, MERC A-06,B-07,C-As,C-03,C-12,D-06,D-07,D-09, :SU:MA:SA:F- 2, 5, 9,11, JUP. A-06,B-06,C-As,C-03,C-12,D-As,D-03,D-12, :MA:RA:KE:F- 4, VEN. A-07,B-09,C-08,D-05,D-10, :F- 8,12, SAT. A-12,B-10,D-02, :MO:JU:F- 3, RAHU A-09,B-12,C-05,C-10, :MA:JU:SA:KE:F-10, KETU A-06,B-06,C-As,C-03,C-12, :MA:JU:RA:F- 6, URAN A-06,B-07,C-As,C-03,C-12, :SU:MA:ME:SA:F- NEPT A-12,B-09,C-04,C-11, :MO:JU:SA:F- FOR. A-10,B-03,C-02, :MA:VE:F- PLUT A-06,B-08, :F- RAHU will ACT as AGENT for Jup,Ven also KETU will ACT as AGENT for Mer,Jup also JUP. Planets EXALTED or in OWN house Strongly signify the house owned Planets DEBILITATED are WEAK These are : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Dear L.Y.Rao According to k.p., the dasa, bukthi and anthara of the planets in the concerned bhavas in the four fold table as prime significators will fructify the events. Among those planets, only the planets having the sub of the concerned bhavas are stronger. The planets having sub of negating houses are to be eliminated. The planets in yellow colour are not signified in the four fold table. The events occurred in those planets dasa,bukthi and antharas which are not signified in the four fold table. The events are not matching with the four fold table for the rectified time. Hence further rectification is required. Event Date Dasa/Buk/Ant For 17.18.15 PM Houses To consider Planets in 4 fold table Primary significators Marriage 4-9-1978 Jup/Mer/Ven 2,7,11 2 Sat 7 Mer,Sun,Ven 11 Moon Appointment 4-7-1977 Jup/sat/rah 2,6,10,11 2 Sat 6 Ju,Mer,Ketu,Mar 10 Sat 11 Moon Removal from service 14-2-2002 Sat/Mar/Jup 1,5,9,12,8 1 Jup,Mer,Ketu 5 Rah 9 Moon 12 Moon,Sat 8 Ra BE studied June 1972 to May 1977 Rahu/Mar to Jup/Sat/Mar 4,9,11 4 Moon 9 Moon 11 Moon ME studied Oct 1984 to April 1986 Jup/Moon To Jup/Mar 4,9,11 4 Moon 9 Moon 11 Moon First child 15-6-1979 Jup/Mer/Rah 2,5,11 2 Sat 5 Rah 11 Moon Second child 2-7-1981 Jup/Ven/Ven 2,7,11 2 Sat 7 Mer,Sun,Ven 11 Moon Accident, hospitalization 9-1-2008 Sat/Jup/Rah/Jup 8,12 8 Rah 12 Moon,Sat Jail 16-1-2008 Sat/Jup/Rah/Jup 2,3,8,12 2 Sat 3 Mer,Jup,Ketu 8 Rah 12 Moon,Sat Bail denied 31-1-2008 Sat/Jup/Rah/Sat 5,8,12 5 Rah 8 Rah 12 Moon,Sat Bail success 17-2-2008 Sat/Jup/Rah/Mer 6,11 6 Jup,Mer,Ketu,Mar 11 Moon My younger brother died (from 3-> 8,12,2,9,1) July 1966 Rahu/Ketu 10,2,3,11,4 2 Sat 3 Mer,Jup,Ketu 10 Sat 11 Moon 4 Moon Dhanabalan--- On Fri, 8/22/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1Re: Birth time rectification Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 4:34 AM Dear Dhanabalan, Alonwith pl. find your Birth Chart with the rectified TOB,as per K.P.,and using Mr.Raichur's SW,and NKPA... With best wishes, L.Yogesh Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >kpsystem groups <@gro ups.com>Thursday, 21 August, 2008 11:09:27 PM Birth time rectification Dear members Rectification of birth time using Uttarakalamrita method: DOB 5-8-1954 at Salem, Tamilnadu. (This method has been recommended by Mr.KSK in pages 401 to 409 of original volume II) Week day of birth:Thursday( 5th from Sunday) Birth star: Chitra(5th from Magam) IST (Birth time) 17..19.15 17..18.20 17..17.25 LMT correction 00..17.20 00..17.20 00..17.20 LMT (rounded value) 17..0 17..0 17..0 Sunrise(LMT) 06.08.53 6.1 6.1 6.1 Difference 10..9 10..9 10.9 Istahal 27..2 27..2 27..1 Vighatis*4/9, Reminder for birth star(Chitra) 5 5 5 Required value from Aswini,Magam, Mulam 5 5 5 Vighatis/225, Reminder 58 55 53 Required value for male 0-15, 46-90, 151-225 o.k. o.k o.k. Vighatis*3/7, Reminder for week day 5 5 5 Required value for week day 5 5 5 Hence the rectified birth time may be 17.19’.15’’ or 17.18’.20’’ or 17.17’.25’’ Modified version of Uttarakalamrita by Rajagopalachariar: In his method, the BTR comes 16.46.50 or 16.45.55 or 16.45.00 ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---- Another rule of Mr...KSK (page 31 of volume I(1966) “Moons sub and star at the time of birth will be governed by the dasanatha and bukthinatha or the lords of the star in which they were found in the parent’s charts.” My first child born on 15-6-1979 at 7.21AM in Salem , Tamilnadu (Normal delivery) Moon sub of the child at the time of birth: Mercury Moon star of the child at the time of birth:Mars Father’s dasanatha(running) :Jupiter; lord of the constellation is Jupiter Father’s bukthinatha( running): Mercury; Lord of the constellation is Jupiter The moon sub is not connected with father’s dasanatha or its star The moon star is not connected with father’s bukthinatha or its star. Dhanabalan Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Dear Bala ji, Rectification is the last step when one gets a good command over the system. Right now we are in the learning process. Yes, Guruji has given a rectification in Mail number 519 and subsequent messages. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Balasubramanian Saturday August 30, 2008 5:57 AM To: Subject: Birth Time Rectification Dear Ash and members, I have received 2 charts both requiring Birth time corrections. I have gone through the lessons but I do not find much information on this point. Now I searching through the archives. In the meantime, I thought of posting the information with the hope of getting some more idea. Here are the details: 1st Chart: Girl DOB : 20.06.1975 TOB: Approx: 06:15 - 06:30 Place: Dibrugarh, assam, India Lat: 27N29 Long: 94E54 Events: 1. Graduates in economics(Hons) in 1996 2. Marriage date: 05.06.1997 3. Parents: Father passed away in 1989. Suffered cancer and stomach ulcer. Mother is alive (approx 55 yrs). Health is ok... some signs of fattening etc. Otherwise comfortable. 4. 1st son born in Jan 1999 thru' C-Section. After that 2 abortions followed by 2nd son in 2004(C-Section again) 5. Housewife and not employed. 6. Siblings: One elder brother. No sisters. 2nd Chart: Boy - The girl's husband. Here even the date was doubtful. As per records his date of birth is 08th July, 1968. His parents told him that he was born at around 2:30 AM in the morning. So whether it was to be taken as 8th or 9th is the question. Place of Birth: Tejpur, Assam Lat: 26N37 Long: 92E50 Events: 1. Year of passing Graduation: 1991. BE 2. Joined 1st job in Aug. 17, 1991. Resigned in Mar. 1992 and joined the 2nd job on 09/04/1992 3. Parents: Father passed away in 28 Oct, 1984. He had a spinal chord operation in 1982 (wrongly operated). Had a sort of paralysis for almost 1.5 yrs after operation. He was 62 yrs of age. Mother is approx 75 yrs old. Mostly stays with me. Health -ok. 4. Siblings: Native is the youngest. The sequence is ...Sister, Sister, (Brother - died still born), sister, brother, sister, and the native. 5. Marriage as above. I would like to know from members, the step by step evaluation for finding the correct birth time Hope members would spend some time on this data and guide me. Bala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 Dear Sundar ji, I am no expert on Kp, but you dont need an expert to do this. First of all why do you need to consult two people from 2 continents at the same time ? That would be absurd. Secondly why do you need anyone at all, if you know this much about Ruling planets. Out of curiosity I just checked the RP's now at Bombay 22nd September. Time is 13.15.22 ( jagannath Hora software used ). I get Sagittarius rising. Moon in Rahu star. Moon in Raashi of Mercury. Day is Monday Asc. star is ketu. If You look further than asc.SL is jupiter. Saturn does not appear anywhere. Try to rectify your time keeping Pisces asc. as base in mind, and verify the events as per dashas running alongwith the significators of the dasha Lords. I am myself born near your birthplace at Eluru in same month and year on June 28th 1961.. I did my rectification myself and compared it with experts verdict afterwards. You must try the same. regards, Bhaskar. www.shrikrishnajyotish.com , "sundar190561" <sundar190561 wrote:>> In my case, the asc is exactly on the cusp between Aquarius & > Pisces. A change in timing of 2 to 4 minutes will take the ascendant > from Aquarius to Pisces and due to this the house lordships will > urdergo a change. > > Secondly, if two persons take up the rectification by "ruling > planets" from two diametrically opposite continents, the ruling > planets will also be different. > > In such a case how does one go about rectification of chart.> > I have given my birth details below:> > DOB: 22nd June, 1961> TOB: 23:38 (IST)> POB: Bhimavaram, AP, Lat:16N32, Long:81E32> > Could any of the experts throw light on this.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 || Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna We took up your case for rectification at 2:32:23 on 22 sept at 27N11 and 78E02. RP at MOJ Day lord: MOON Moon Merc Rah Lagna Jup SUN Rah is in sign of Sat Ketu is in sign of MOON SO RP are in order of preference Sun, Jup Rah, Ketu Merc & Moon. Now these RP should tally, correspond with RP at birth. & Elements OF birth ASC should tally with RP or be in sub- star of planets in time chart. RP at BIRTH Day Lord is Jupiter. Moon: Merc Mars ASC Sat JUP Rahu is in sign of SUN Ketu is in sign of Sat. Therefore RP at moment of Judgment JUP,Rahu, Sat,Mars,Merc. (i) Sat does not find place among RP at MOJ & mars is also absent. (ii) Next sign rising will be Pisces (iii) Time chart has Rahu in it Sub-sub can be of Rah/ketu whichever comes first (iv) It is Ketu and TOB is 11;40;18. PM CROSS CHECK and verification. I leave these two steps for you to work out. TIME CHART SUN: Vi 005:50:17 Me Su Me SuMOON: Ge 008:00:51 Me Ra Ra VeMARS: Vi 028:11:33 Me Ma Sa SaMERC: Vi 028:44:59 Me Ma Sa VeJUP: Sg 018:57:53 Ju Ve Ra SaVEN: Li 003:58:38 Ve Ma Ve JuSAT: Le 020:19:03 Su Ve Ju JuRAH: Cp 022:24:07 Sa Mo Ve MeKETU Cn 022:24:07 Mo Me Mo Ra Hint : CROSS check. Here we will not make sub and sub-sub to correspond to moon star and sub .WHY? Because, Time chart at MOJ has planet/ nodes in Uday and ASTA. Please do rectification once or twice and 3 to 4 time Verification when you have strong desire to find SUB and SUB-SUB only. You can then Caste chart as per KP to examine if Chart answers your life events. See if this time arrived answers your life events. To answer your second part, Please ignore unfounded doubts.Kaal Chakra is very complex concept.Space is integrated in cosmos.RP are elements OF kaal chakra.It does not matter In which part of globe you are.RP governs your thought, events your search as well as elements of Panchang that are representative of Divine intelligence . Hope this helps. With Regards OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCSrivastava AstrologerTeaching & Consultationshttp:\\www.kaalvastu.com] -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - sundar190561 Monday, September 22, 2008 11:03 AM Birth time rectification In my case, the asc is exactly on the cusp between Aquarius & Pisces. A change in timing of 2 to 4 minutes will take the ascendant from Aquarius to Pisces and due to this the house lordships will urdergo a change. Secondly, if two persons take up the rectification by "ruling planets" from two diametrically opposite continents, the ruling planets will also be different. In such a case how does one go about rectification of chart.I have given my birth details below:DOB: 22nd June, 1961TOB: 23:38 (IST)POB: Bhimavaram, AP, Lat:16N32, Long:81E32Could any of the experts throw light on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 Dear Bhaskar ji, You are missing one point. I am not saying that, I cannot do it. The point here is any horoscope before it is taken up for analysis, has to be rectified. Am I correct? Further, If I as a layman go I to two different astrlogers (by email) say with a gap of 1 year, then the first KP astrologer (in mumbai) would have done his rectification. After a gap of 1 year, I go to another KP astrologer (in USA), he would also do the rectification. In the above case, if the 2nd astrologer arrives at Pisces asc based on the RP, and also provides his predictions, then, isn't it absurd. Thanks............Sundar --- On Mon, 22/9/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Birth time rectification Date: Monday, 22 September, 2008, 1:26 PM Dear Sundar ji, I am no expert on Kp, but you dont need an expert to do this. First of all why do you need to consult two people from 2 continents at the same time ? That would be absurd. Secondly why do you need anyone at all, if you know this much about Ruling planets. Out of curiosity I just checked the RP's now at Bombay 22nd September. Time is 13.15.22 ( jagannath Hora software used ). I get Sagittarius rising. Moon in Rahu star. Moon in Raashi of Mercury. Day is Monday Asc. star is ketu. If You look further than asc.SL is jupiter. Saturn does not appear anywhere. Try to rectify your time keeping Pisces asc. as base in mind, and verify the events as per dashas running alongwith the significators of the dasha Lords. I am myself born near your birthplace at Eluru in same month and year on June 28th 1961.. I did my rectification myself and compared it with experts verdict afterwards. You must try the same. regards, Bhaskar. www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com @gro ups.com, "sundar190561" <sundar190561@ ...> wrote:>> In my case, the asc is exactly on the cusp between Aquarius & > Pisces. A change in timing of 2 to 4 minutes will take the ascendant > from Aquarius to Pisces and due to this the house lordships will > urdergo a change. > > Secondly, if two persons take up the rectification by "ruling > planets" from two diametrically opposite continents, the ruling > planets will also be different. > > In such a case how does one go about rectification of chart.> > I have given my birth details below:> > DOB: 22nd June, 1961> TOB: 23:38 (IST)> POB: Bhimavaram, AP, Lat:16N32, Long:81E32> > Could any of the experts throw light on this.> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 Dear Sundar Give some events like date of marriage, first child birth date, profession, etc. to verify the birth time after rectification with Ruling Planets. Further, the birth time rectifiation in 4 step differ from k.p. Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 9/22/08, sundar190561 <sundar190561 wrote: sundar190561 <sundar190561 Birth time rectification Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 5:33 AM In my case, the asc is exactly on the cusp between Aquarius & Pisces. A change in timing of 2 to 4 minutes will take the ascendant from Aquarius to Pisces and due to this the house lordships will urdergo a change. Secondly, if two persons take up the rectification by "ruling planets" from two diametrically opposite continents, the ruling planets will also be different. In such a case how does one go about rectification of chart.I have given my birth details below:DOB: 22nd June, 1961TOB: 23:38 (IST)POB: Bhimavaram, AP, Lat:16N32, Long:81E32Could any of the experts throw light on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 Not every TOB has to be verified, before prediction. One has to be practical in the matter.If a child is born in an American Hospital in presence of father,who gies you a photo of the birth as will as the time, it would be unnecessary to further verification, just for sake of following a rule.good luckraichur anant mumbai--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561 wrote:Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561Re: Re: Birth time rectification Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 3:31 PM Dear Bhaskar ji, You are missing one point. I am not saying that, I cannot do it. The point here is any horoscope before it is taken up for analysis, has to be rectified. Am I correct? Further, If I as a layman go I to two different astrlogers (by email) say with a gap of 1 year, then the first KP astrologer (in mumbai) would have done his rectification. After a gap of 1 year, I go to another KP astrologer (in USA), he would also do the rectification. In the above case, if the 2nd astrologer arrives at Pisces asc based on the RP, and also provides his predictions, then, isn't it absurd. Thanks...... ......Sundar --- On Mon, 22/9/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> Re: Birth time rectification@gro ups.comMonday, 22 September, 2008, 1:26 PM Dear Sundar ji, I am no expert on Kp, but you dont need an expert to do this. First of all why do you need to consult two people from 2 continents at the same time ? That would be absurd. Secondly why do you need anyone at all, if you know this much about Ruling planets. Out of curiosity I just checked the RP's now at Bombay 22nd September. Time is 13.15.22 ( jagannath Hora software used ). I get Sagittarius rising. Moon in Rahu star. Moon in Raashi of Mercury. Day is Monday Asc. star is ketu. If You look further than asc.SL is jupiter. Saturn does not appear anywhere. Try to rectify your time keeping Pisces asc. as base in mind, and verify the events as per dashas running alongwith the significators of the dasha Lords. I am myself born near your birthplace at Eluru in same month and year on June 28th 1961.. I did my rectification myself and compared it with experts verdict afterwards. You must try the same. regards, Bhaskar. www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com @gro ups.com, "sundar190561" <sundar190561@ ...> wrote:>> In my case, the asc is exactly on the cusp between Aquarius & > Pisces. A change in timing of 2 to 4 minutes will take the ascendant > from Aquarius to Pisces and due to this the house lordships will > urdergo a change. > > Secondly, if two persons take up the rectification by "ruling > planets" from two diametrically opposite continents, the ruling > planets will also be different. > > In such a case how does one go about rectification of chart.> > I have given my birth details below:> > DOB: 22nd June, 1961> TOB: 23:38 (IST)> POB: Bhimavaram, AP, Lat:16N32, Long:81E32> > Could any of the experts throw light on this.> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 Dear Dhanabalan ji, 1. Got married on 25th may, 1989 2. blessed with son on 31st jan, 1993 3. Changed job on 11th Sept, 2002 Thanks............Sundar--- On Mon, 22/9/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalanRe: Birth time rectification Date: Monday, 22 September, 2008, 4:24 PM Dear Sundar Give some events like date of marriage, first child birth date, profession, etc. to verify the birth time after rectification with Ruling Planets. Further, the birth time rectifiation in 4 step differ from k.p. Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 9/22/08, sundar190561 <sundar190561@ .co. in> wrote: sundar190561 <sundar190561@ .co. in> Birth time rectification@gro ups.comMonday, September 22, 2008, 5:33 AM In my case, the asc is exactly on the cusp between Aquarius & Pisces. A change in timing of 2 to 4 minutes will take the ascendant from Aquarius to Pisces and due to this the house lordships will urdergo a change. Secondly, if two persons take up the rectification by "ruling planets" from two diametrically opposite continents, the ruling planets will also be different. In such a case how does one go about rectification of chart.I have given my birth details below:DOB: 22nd June, 1961TOB: 23:38 (IST)POB: Bhimavaram, AP, Lat:16N32, Long:81E32Could any of the experts throw light on this. Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 Thats it.Raichurji well said. Why go after rectification- if the time of birth is so sure -just for want of applying a principle.--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: Raichur-a-r <raichurarRe: Re: Birth time rectification Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 11:29 AM Not every TOB has to be verified, before prediction. One has to be practical in the matter.If a child is born in an American Hospital in presence of father,who gies you a photo of the birth as will as the time, it would be unnecessary to further verification, just for sake of following a rule.good luck raichur anant mumbai--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in> wrote: Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in>Re: Re: Birth time rectification@gro ups.comMonday, September 22, 2008, 3:31 PM Dear Bhaskar ji, You are missing one point. I am not saying that, I cannot do it. The point here is any horoscope before it is taken up for analysis, has to be rectified. Am I correct? Further, If I as a layman go I to two different astrlogers (by email) say with a gap of 1 year, then the first KP astrologer (in mumbai) would have done his rectification. After a gap of 1 year, I go to another KP astrologer (in USA), he would also do the rectification. In the above case, if the 2nd astrologer arrives at Pisces asc based on the RP, and also provides his predictions, then, isn't it absurd. Thanks...... ......Sundar --- On Mon, 22/9/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> Re: Birth time rectification@gro ups.comMonday, 22 September, 2008, 1:26 PM Dear Sundar ji, I am no expert on Kp, but you dont need an expert to do this. First of all why do you need to consult two people from 2 continents at the same time ? That would be absurd. Secondly why do you need anyone at all, if you know this much about Ruling planets. Out of curiosity I just checked the RP's now at Bombay 22nd September. Time is 13.15.22 ( jagannath Hora software used ). I get Sagittarius rising. Moon in Rahu star. Moon in Raashi of Mercury. Day is Monday Asc. star is ketu. If You look further than asc.SL is jupiter. Saturn does not appear anywhere. Try to rectify your time keeping Pisces asc. as base in mind, and verify the events as per dashas running alongwith the significators of the dasha Lords. I am myself born near your birthplace at Eluru in same month and year on June 28th 1961.. I did my rectification myself and compared it with experts verdict afterwards. You must try the same. regards, Bhaskar. www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com @gro ups.com, "sundar190561" <sundar190561@ ...> wrote:>> In my case, the asc is exactly on the cusp between Aquarius & > Pisces. A change in timing of 2 to 4 minutes will take the ascendant > from Aquarius to Pisces and due to this the house lordships will > urdergo a change. > > Secondly, if two persons take up the rectification by "ruling > planets" from two diametrically opposite continents, the ruling > planets will also be different. > > In such a case how does one go about rectification of chart.> > I have given my birth details below:> > DOB: 22nd June, 1961> TOB: 23:38 (IST)> POB: Bhimavaram, AP, Lat:16N32, Long:81E32> > Could any of the experts throw light on this.> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 Dear Mr.Raichur, As per K.P., it is advisable to check/verify the correctness of any Birth Chart given for reading...KSK has,advised 3 steps(ref::Reader VI Pp134-142) : i) Verification of Birth Time Given ii) Correction of Birth Time iii) Then to fix the correct position of the Ascendant. Several methods have been discussed too... Also,I am not so sure that the exact Time of Birth is noted... In any case what is the harm in checking...? If it is correctly noted it MUST reflect in the RPs at Birth and also at the Time of judgement...! In my own practice I check the Birth Time for every horoscope handed to me for predictions during consultation... With highest regards, L.Y.Rao. Raichur-a-r <raichurar Sent: Monday, 22 September, 2008 4:59:34 PMRe: Re: Birth time rectification Not every TOB has to be verified, before prediction. One has to be practical in the matter.If a child is born in an American Hospital in presence of father,who gies you a photo of the birth as will as the time, it would be unnecessary to further verification, just for sake of following a rule.good luck raichur anant mumbai--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in> wrote: Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in>Re: Re: Birth time rectification@gro ups.comMonday, September 22, 2008, 3:31 PM Dear Bhaskar ji, You are missing one point. I am not saying that, I cannot do it. The point here is any horoscope before it is taken up for analysis, has to be rectified. Am I correct? Further, If I as a layman go I to two different astrlogers (by email) say with a gap of 1 year, then the first KP astrologer (in mumbai) would have done his rectification. After a gap of 1 year, I go to another KP astrologer (in USA), he would also do the rectification. In the above case, if the 2nd astrologer arrives at Pisces asc based on the RP, and also provides his predictions, then, isn't it absurd. Thanks...... ......Sundar --- On Mon, 22/9/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> Re: Birth time rectification@gro ups.comMonday, 22 September, 2008, 1:26 PM Dear Sundar ji, I am no expert on Kp, but you dont need an expert to do this. First of all why do you need to consult two people from 2 continents at the same time ? That would be absurd. Secondly why do you need anyone at all, if you know this much about Ruling planets. Out of curiosity I just checked the RP's now at Bombay 22nd September. Time is 13.15.22 ( jagannath Hora software used ). I get Sagittarius rising. Moon in Rahu star. Moon in Raashi of Mercury. Day is Monday Asc. star is ketu. If You look further than asc.SL is jupiter. Saturn does not appear anywhere. Try to rectify your time keeping Pisces asc. as base in mind, and verify the events as per dashas running alongwith the significators of the dasha Lords. I am myself born near your birthplace at Eluru in same month and year on June 28th 1961.. I did my rectification myself and compared it with experts verdict afterwards. You must try the same. regards, Bhaskar. www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com @gro ups.com, "sundar190561" <sundar190561@ ...> wrote:>> In my case, the asc is exactly on the cusp between Aquarius & > Pisces. A change in timing of 2 to 4 minutes will take the ascendant > from Aquarius to Pisces and due to this the house lordships will > urdergo a change. > > Secondly, if two persons take up the rectification by "ruling > planets" from two diametrically opposite continents, the ruling > planets will also be different. > > In such a case how does one go about rectification of chart.> > I have given my birth details below:> > DOB: 22nd June, 1961> TOB: 23:38 (IST)> POB: Bhimavaram, AP, Lat:16N32, Long:81E32> > Could any of the experts throw light on this.> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Dear Sir, I do fully agree that birth time need be verified in all cases before going for prediction. If found necessary it has to be rectified by what ever metnod you follow.The birth time provided invariably differs from the astrological birth time. It's so because people record the time at different stages of birth. Some record when the head is out, some when the whole body comes out and some when the baby show signs of life. In case of birth by breech still adds confussion. It has been discussed many a times regarding astrological birth time, in this forum. With regards. Dr. Luther Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 8:43:16 PMRe: Re: Birth time rectification Dear Mr.Raichur, As per K.P., it is advisable to check/verify the correctness of any Birth Chart given for reading...KSK has,advised 3 steps(ref::Reader VI Pp134-142) : i) Verification of Birth Time Given ii) Correction of Birth Time iii) Then to fix the correct position of the Ascendant. Several methods have been discussed too... Also,I am not so sure that the exact Time of Birth is noted... In any case what is the harm in checking...? If it is correctly noted it MUST reflect in the RPs at Birth and also at the Time of judgement... ! In my own practice I check the Birth Time for every horoscope handed to me for predictions during consultation. .. With highest regards, L.Y.Rao. Raichur-a-r <raichurar >@gro ups.comMonday, 22 September, 2008 4:59:34 PMRe: Re: Birth time rectification Not every TOB has to be verified, before prediction. One has to be practical in the matter.If a child is born in an American Hospital in presence of father,who gies you a photo of the birth as will as the time, it would be unnecessary to further verification, just for sake of following a rule.good luck raichur anant mumbai--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in> wrote: Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in>Re: Re: Birth time rectification@gro ups.comMonday, September 22, 2008, 3:31 PM Dear Bhaskar ji, You are missing one point. I am not saying that, I cannot do it. The point here is any horoscope before it is taken up for analysis, has to be rectified. Am I correct? Further, If I as a layman go I to two different astrlogers (by email) say with a gap of 1 year, then the first KP astrologer (in mumbai) would have done his rectification. After a gap of 1 year, I go to another KP astrologer (in USA), he would also do the rectification. In the above case, if the 2nd astrologer arrives at Pisces asc based on the RP, and also provides his predictions, then, isn't it absurd. Thanks...... ......Sundar --- On Mon, 22/9/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> Re: Birth time rectification@gro ups.comMonday, 22 September, 2008, 1:26 PM Dear Sundar ji, I am no expert on Kp, but you dont need an expert to do this. First of all why do you need to consult two people from 2 continents at the same time ? That would be absurd. Secondly why do you need anyone at all, if you know this much about Ruling planets. Out of curiosity I just checked the RP's now at Bombay 22nd September. Time is 13.15.22 ( jagannath Hora software used ). I get Sagittarius rising. Moon in Rahu star. Moon in Raashi of Mercury. Day is Monday Asc. star is ketu. If You look further than asc.SL is jupiter. Saturn does not appear anywhere. Try to rectify your time keeping Pisces asc. as base in mind, and verify the events as per dashas running alongwith the significators of the dasha Lords. I am myself born near your birthplace at Eluru in same month and year on June 28th 1961.. I did my rectification myself and compared it with experts verdict afterwards. You must try the same. regards, Bhaskar. www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com @gro ups.com, "sundar190561" <sundar190561@ ...> wrote:>> In my case, the asc is exactly on the cusp between Aquarius & > Pisces. A change in timing of 2 to 4 minutes will take the ascendant > from Aquarius to Pisces and due to this the house lordships will > urdergo a change. > > Secondly, if two persons take up the rectification by "ruling > planets" from two diametrically opposite continents, the ruling > planets will also be different. > > In such a case how does one go about rectification of chart.> > I have given my birth details below:> > DOB: 22nd June, 1961> TOB: 23:38 (IST)> POB: Bhimavaram, AP, Lat:16N32, Long:81E32> > Could any of the experts throw light on this.> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Andrew Ddutta in KPEZine, May 2008: Any astrological endeavor is based on faith. You as an astrologer practice astrology because you not only have faith in the science but also because you believe that your God will illuminate you with the right foresight. Similarly, the querist has faith on you and your ability. That is why he has come to consult you. He also `trusts' his own birth time, which he received from his parents/guardians. When everything is in a proper equilibrium you simply proceed. You don't start the analysis by becoming a `doubting Thomas'. You don't doubt anything when everything is okay. If you do, then it spirals in to a negative energy and invariably you fail in offering correct prediction. K. Baskaran in his book Secrets of R.P. & The Birth Time (1999) in page 10 point number 2: Unless the client raises specific doubts in his birth-time, we need not attempt unnecessarily to correct the birth-time at all. However, it is better to check his birth-horoscope by taking the RPs……Like this we should practice the art of relating all the twelve bhavas with the present position of the Moon. K. Baskaran in Secrets of R.P. & The Birth Time in page 15, point 11: "In my little experience, I have come across young KP astrologers, who do not hesitate to change SUBs of certain cuspal points. Without detailed study, these young KP astrologers, with a subjective outlook, never afraid to change their horoscopes frequently by changing SUBs of certain bhavas according to their whims and fancies. This is not advisable. It is irrational and undoing of the scientific approach of KP. Only because our predictions fail often, it is not reasonable to jump to the conclusion that the birth time is wrong". , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:>> Dear Mr.Raichur,>                          As per K.P., it is advisable to check/verify the correctness of any Birth Chart given for reading...KSK has,advised 3 steps(ref::Reader VI Pp134-142) :>                          i) Verification of Birth Time Given>                          ii) Correction of Birth Time>                          iii) Then to fix the correct position of the Ascendant.>                         Several methods have been discussed too...>                          Also,I am not so sure that the exact Time of Birth is noted...>                         In any case what is the harm in checking...? If it is correctly noted it MUST reflect in the RPs at Birth and also at the Time of judgement...!>                         In my own practice I check the Birth Time for every horoscope handed to me for predictions during consultation...>                        With highest regards,>                         L.Y.Rao.> > > > > Raichur-a-r raichurar > Monday, 22 September, 2008 4:59:34 PM> Re: Re: Birth time rectification> > > Not every TOB has to be verified, before prediction. One has to be practical in the matter.> If a child is born in an American Hospital in presence of father,who gies you a photo of the birth as will as the time, it would be unnecessary to further verification, just for sake of following a rule.> good luck> > > raichur anant mumbai> > --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in> wrote:> > Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in>> Re: Re: Birth time rectification> @gro ups.com> Monday, September 22, 2008, 3:31 PM> > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > You are missing one point. I am not saying that, I cannot do it. The point here is any horoscope before it is taken up for analysis, has to be rectified. Am I correct?> > Further, If I as a layman go I to two different astrlogers (by email) say with a gap of 1 year, then the first KP astrologer (in mumbai) would have done his rectification. After a gap of 1 year, I go to another KP astrologer (in USA), he would also do the rectification. > > In the above case, if the 2nd astrologer arrives at Pisces asc based on the RP, and also provides his predictions, then, isn't it absurd.> > > Thanks...... ......Sundar > > --- On Mon, 22/9/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> Re: Birth time rectification> @gro ups.com> Monday, 22 September, 2008, 1:26 PM> > > Dear Sundar ji,> I am no expert on Kp, but you dont need an expert to do this.>  > First of all why do you need to consult two people from 2 continents at the same time ? That would be absurd. Secondly why do you need anyone at all, if you know this much about Ruling planets.>  > Out of curiosity I just checked the RP's now at Bombay 22nd September.> Time is 13.15.22 ( jagannath Hora software used ). >  > I get Sagittarius rising.> Moon in Rahu star. > Moon in Raashi of Mercury.> Day is Monday> Asc. star is ketu.>  > If You look further than asc.SL is jupiter.>  > Saturn does not appear anywhere.>  > Try to rectify your time keeping Pisces asc. as base in mind, and verify the events as per dashas running alongwith the significators of the dasha Lords.>  > I am myself born near your birthplace at Eluru in> same month and year on June 28th 1961..> I did my rectification myself and compared it with experts > verdict afterwards. You must try the same.>  > regards,> Bhaskar.                                               www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com>  >  >   >  >  > @gro ups.com, "sundar190561" <sundar190561@ ...> wrote:> >> > In my case, the asc is exactly on the cusp between Aquarius & > > Pisces. A change in timing of 2 to 4 minutes will take the ascendant > > from Aquarius to Pisces and due to this the house lordships will > > urdergo a change. > > > > Secondly, if two persons take up the rectification by "ruling > > planets" from two diametrically opposite continents, the ruling > > planets will also be different. > > > > In such a case how does one go about rectification of chart.> > > > I have given my birth details below:> > > > DOB: 22nd June, 1961> > TOB: 23:38 (IST)> > POB: Bhimavaram, AP, Lat:16N32, Long:81E32> > > > Could any of the experts throw light on this.> >> > > ________________________________> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Fully agreed with Shri Raichur. Are the AA Rated TOBs or TOBs without doubt to be rectified for the sake of BRT or to be messed up without any resposibility? Regards, tw , Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:>> Not every TOB has to be verified, before prediction. One has to be practical in the matter.> If a child is born in an American Hospital in presence of father,who gies you a photo of the birth as will as the time, it would be unnecessary to further verification, just for sake of following a rule.> good luck> > raichur anant mumbai> > --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Sundar Balakrishnan sundar190561 wrote:> Sundar Balakrishnan sundar190561 Re: Re: Birth time rectification> > Monday, September 22, 2008, 3:31 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > You are missing one point. I am not saying that, I cannot do it. The point here is any horoscope before it is taken up for analysis, has to be rectified. Am I correct?> > Further, If I as a layman go I to two different astrlogers (by email) say with a gap of 1 year, then the first KP astrologer (in mumbai) would have done his rectification. After a gap of 1 year, I go to another KP astrologer (in USA), he would also do the rectification. > > In the above case, if the 2nd astrologer arrives at Pisces asc based on the RP, and also provides his predictions, then, isn't it absurd.> > > Thanks...... ......Sundar > > --- On Mon, 22/9/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> Re: Birth time rectification> @gro ups.com> Monday, 22 September, 2008, 1:26 PM> > > > > > Dear Sundar ji,> I am no expert on Kp, but you dont need an expert to do this.> > First of all why do you need to consult two people from 2 continents at the same time ? That would be absurd. Secondly why do you need anyone at all, if you know this much about Ruling planets.> > Out of curiosity I just checked the RP's now at Bombay 22nd September.> Time is 13.15.22 ( jagannath Hora software used ). > > I get Sagittarius rising.> Moon in Rahu star. > Moon in Raashi of Mercury.> Day is Monday> Asc. star is ketu.> > If You look further than asc.SL is jupiter.> > Saturn does not appear anywhere.> > Try to rectify your time keeping Pisces asc. as base in mind, and verify the events as per dashas running alongwith the significators of the dasha Lords.> > I am myself born near your birthplace at Eluru in> same month and year on June 28th 1961..> I did my rectification myself and compared it with experts > verdict afterwards. You must try the same.> > regards,> Bhaskar. www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com> > > > > > @gro ups.com, "sundar190561" <sundar190561@ ...> wrote:> >> > In my case, the asc is exactly on the cusp between Aquarius & > > Pisces. A change in timing of 2 to 4 minutes will take the ascendant > > from Aquarius to Pisces and due to this the house lordships will > > urdergo a change. > > > > Secondly, if two persons take up the rectification by "ruling > > planets" from two diametrically opposite continents, the ruling > > planets will also be different. > > > > In such a case how does one go about rectification of chart.> > > > I have given my birth details below:> > > > DOB: 22nd June, 1961> > TOB: 23:38 (IST)> > POB: Bhimavaram, AP, Lat:16N32, Long:81E32> > > > Could any of the experts throw light on this.> >> > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Respected Dr. Luther Rath, Sir, I would like to get my two points clarified from you because you are from the field of medicine and a notable astrologer too. Many times the TOB certified by doctors is something like 02.34p.m., 01.23a.m. etc. etc.The very fact that the time has not been rounded off shows that during the course of delivery of a child something has happened exactly at that time that qualifies to be called the birth of a child.What is it exactly? Secondly, after drafting the chart of the child based on the time furnished by the doctor, the astrologer rectifies that time to arrive at the astrological TOB. Has it ever been verified as to what exactly happens during delivery at this rectified time? I hope I have expressed my doubts clear enough. regards, sujatkaram , Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: > > Dear Sir, > I do fully agree that birth time need be verified in all cases before going for prediction. If found necessary it has to be rectified by what ever metnod you follow.The birth time provided invariably differs from the astrological birth time. It's so because people record the time at different stages of birth. Some record when the head is out, some when the whole body comes out and some when the baby show signs of life. In case of birth by breech still adds confussion. It has been discussed many a times regarding astrological birth time, in this forum. > With regards. > Dr. Luther > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 > > Monday, September 22, 2008 8:43:16 PM > Re: Re: Birth time rectification > > > Dear Mr.Raichur, > As per K.P., it is advisable to check/verify the correctness of any Birth Chart given for reading...KSK has,advised 3 steps(ref::Reader VI Pp134-142) : > i) Verification of Birth Time Given > ii) Correction of Birth Time > iii) Then to fix the correct position of the Ascendant. > Several methods have been discussed too... > Also,I am not so sure that the exact Time of Birth is noted... > In any case what is the harm in checking...? If it is correctly noted it MUST reflect in the RPs at Birth and also at the Time of judgement... ! > In my own practice I check the Birth Time for every horoscope handed to me for predictions during consultation. .. > With highest regards, > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar > > @gro ups.com > Monday, 22 September, 2008 4:59:34 PM > Re: Re: Birth time rectification > > > Not every TOB has to be verified, before prediction. One has to be practical in the matter. > If a child is born in an American Hospital in presence of father,who gies you a photo of the birth as will as the time, it would be unnecessary to further verification, just for sake of following a rule. > good luck > > > raichur anant mumbai > > --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in> wrote: > > Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in> > Re: Re: Birth time rectification > @gro ups.com > Monday, September 22, 2008, 3:31 PM > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > You are missing one point. I am not saying that, I cannot do it. The point here is any horoscope before it is taken up for analysis, has to be rectified. Am I correct? > > Further, If I as a layman go I to two different astrlogers (by email) say with a gap of 1 year, then the first KP astrologer (in mumbai) would have done his rectification. After a gap of 1 year, I go to another KP astrologer (in USA), he would also do the rectification. > > In the above case, if the 2nd astrologer arrives at Pisces asc based on the RP, and also provides his predictions, then, isn't it absurd. > > > Thanks...... ......Sundar > > --- On Mon, 22/9/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > Re: Birth time rectification > @gro ups.com > Monday, 22 September, 2008, 1:26 PM > > > Dear Sundar ji, > I am no expert on Kp, but you dont need an expert to do this. > > First of all why do you need to consult two people from 2 continents at the same time ? That would be absurd. Secondly why do you need anyone at all, if you know this much about Ruling planets. > > Out of curiosity I just checked the RP's now at Bombay 22nd September. > Time is 13.15.22 ( jagannath Hora software used ). > > I get Sagittarius rising. > Moon in Rahu star. > Moon in Raashi of Mercury. > Day is Monday > Asc. star is ketu. > > If You look further than asc.SL is jupiter. > > Saturn does not appear anywhere. > > Try to rectify your time keeping Pisces asc. as base in mind, and verify the events as per dashas running alongwith the significators of the dasha Lords. > > I am myself born near your birthplace at Eluru in > same month and year on June 28th 1961.. > I did my rectification myself and compared it with experts > verdict afterwards. You must try the same. > > regards, > Bhaskar. www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " sundar190561 " <sundar190561@ ...> wrote: > > > > In my case, the asc is exactly on the cusp between Aquarius & > > Pisces. A change in timing of 2 to 4 minutes will take the ascendant > > from Aquarius to Pisces and due to this the house lordships will > > urdergo a change. > > > > Secondly, if two persons take up the rectification by " ruling > > planets " from two diametrically opposite continents, the ruling > > planets will also be different. > > > > In such a case how does one go about rectification of chart. > > > > I have given my birth details below: > > > > DOB: 22nd June, 1961 > > TOB: 23:38 (IST) > > POB: Bhimavaram, AP, Lat:16N32, Long:81E32 > > > > Could any of the experts throw light on this. > > > > > ________________________________ > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > ________________________________ > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Dear Sir, What is the astrological birth time according to you ? 1) head comes out 2)whole body comes out OR baby shows sign of life. I thing, when baby is inside her mother's stomack she takes everything i.e. food, breath through her mother, when she comes out and takes first breath out side should be the time of birth, or when stem chord is cut, she becomes an independent human being for this SRUSHTI. that should be the time of birth. this is what my logic. Dear all seniors flash some light on matter. thanks & regards, NEERAJ--- On Tue, 9/23/08, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: Re: Birth time rectification Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 12:17 AM Dear Sir, I do fully agree that birth time need be verified in all cases before going for prediction. If found necessary it has to be rectified by what ever metnod you follow.The birth time provided invariably differs from the astrological birth time. It's so because people record the time at different stages of birth. Some record when the head is out, some when the whole body comes out and some when the baby show signs of life. In case of birth by breech still adds confussion. It has been discussed many a times regarding astrological birth time, in this forum. With regards. Dr. Luther Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comMonday, September 22, 2008 8:43:16 PMRe: Re: Birth time rectification Dear Mr.Raichur, As per K.P., it is advisable to check/verify the correctness of any Birth Chart given for reading...KSK has,advised 3 steps(ref::Reader VI Pp134-142) : i) Verification of Birth Time Given ii) Correction of Birth Time iii) Then to fix the correct position of the Ascendant. Several methods have been discussed too... Also,I am not so sure that the exact Time of Birth is noted... In any case what is the harm in checking...? If it is correctly noted it MUST reflect in the RPs at Birth and also at the Time of judgement... ! In my own practice I check the Birth Time for every horoscope handed to me for predictions during consultation. .. With highest regards, L.Y.Rao. Raichur-a-r <raichurar >@gro ups.comMonday, 22 September, 2008 4:59:34 PMRe: Re: Birth time rectification Not every TOB has to be verified, before prediction. One has to be practical in the matter.If a child is born in an American Hospital in presence of father,who gies you a photo of the birth as will as the time, it would be unnecessary to further verification, just for sake of following a rule.good luck raichur anant mumbai--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in> wrote: Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in>Re: Re: Birth time rectification@gro ups.comMonday, September 22, 2008, 3:31 PM Dear Bhaskar ji, You are missing one point. I am not saying that, I cannot do it. The point here is any horoscope before it is taken up for analysis, has to be rectified. Am I correct? Further, If I as a layman go I to two different astrlogers (by email) say with a gap of 1 year, then the first KP astrologer (in mumbai) would have done his rectification. After a gap of 1 year, I go to another KP astrologer (in USA), he would also do the rectification. In the above case, if the 2nd astrologer arrives at Pisces asc based on the RP, and also provides his predictions, then, isn't it absurd. Thanks...... ......Sundar --- On Mon, 22/9/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> Re: Birth time rectification@gro ups.comMonday, 22 September, 2008, 1:26 PM Dear Sundar ji, I am no expert on Kp, but you dont need an expert to do this. First of all why do you need to consult two people from 2 continents at the same time ? That would be absurd. Secondly why do you need anyone at all, if you know this much about Ruling planets. Out of curiosity I just checked the RP's now at Bombay 22nd September. Time is 13.15.22 ( jagannath Hora software used ). I get Sagittarius rising. Moon in Rahu star. Moon in Raashi of Mercury. Day is Monday Asc. star is ketu. If You look further than asc.SL is jupiter. Saturn does not appear anywhere. Try to rectify your time keeping Pisces asc. as base in mind, and verify the events as per dashas running alongwith the significators of the dasha Lords. I am myself born near your birthplace at Eluru in same month and year on June 28th 1961.. I did my rectification myself and compared it with experts verdict afterwards. You must try the same. regards, Bhaskar. www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com @gro ups.com, "sundar190561" <sundar190561@ ...> wrote:>> In my case, the asc is exactly on the cusp between Aquarius & > Pisces. A change in timing of 2 to 4 minutes will take the ascendant > from Aquarius to Pisces and due to this the house lordships will > urdergo a change. > > Secondly, if two persons take up the rectification by "ruling > planets" from two diametrically opposite continents, the ruling > planets will also be different. > > In such a case how does one go about rectification of chart.> > I have given my birth details below:> > DOB: 22nd June, 1961> TOB: 23:38 (IST)> POB: Bhimavaram, AP, Lat:16N32, Long:81E32> > Could any of the experts throw light on this.> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 Neeraj, Classical authors openion is the time of first breath - this is identified as the time of cry- the symptom of baby's cry is - a sign of allergy when the air is inhaled for the first time - The logic for this is biologically lungs and heart get choked- the longevity is based on the duration of breath in the life time - Those who practice a state of "breathlessness" in hata yoga are expected to live longer to the extent of their stay in the state of brethlessness-You may find such yogis in himalayas. rao chitturu --- On Tue, 23/9/08, Neeraj Chowksey <chowkseyneeraj wrote: Neeraj Chowksey <chowkseyneerajRe: Re: Birth time rectification Cc: rathlutherDate: Tuesday, 23 September, 2008, 4:47 PM Dear Sir, What is the astrological birth time according to you ? 1) head comes out 2)whole body comes out OR baby shows sign of life. I thing, when baby is inside her mother's stomack she takes everything i.e. food, breath through her mother, when she comes out and takes first breath out side should be the time of birth, or when stem chord is cut, she becomes an independent human being for this SRUSHTI. that should be the time of birth. this is what my logic. Dear all seniors flash some light on matter. thanks & regards, NEERAJ--- On Tue, 9/23/08, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: Re: Birth time rectification@gro ups.comTuesday, September 23, 2008, 12:17 AM Dear Sir, I do fully agree that birth time need be verified in all cases before going for prediction. If found necessary it has to be rectified by what ever metnod you follow.The birth time provided invariably differs from the astrological birth time. It's so because people record the time at different stages of birth. Some record when the head is out, some when the whole body comes out and some when the baby show signs of life. In case of birth by breech still adds confussion. It has been discussed many a times regarding astrological birth time, in this forum. With regards. Dr. Luther Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comMonday, September 22, 2008 8:43:16 PMRe: Re: Birth time rectification Dear Mr.Raichur, As per K.P., it is advisable to check/verify the correctness of any Birth Chart given for reading...KSK has,advised 3 steps(ref::Reader VI Pp134-142) : i) Verification of Birth Time Given ii) Correction of Birth Time iii) Then to fix the correct position of the Ascendant. Several methods have been discussed too... Also,I am not so sure that the exact Time of Birth is noted... In any case what is the harm in checking...? If it is correctly noted it MUST reflect in the RPs at Birth and also at the Time of judgement... ! In my own practice I check the Birth Time for every horoscope handed to me for predictions during consultation. .. With highest regards, L..Y.Rao. Raichur-a-r <raichurar >@gro ups.comMonday, 22 September, 2008 4:59:34 PMRe: Re: Birth time rectification Not every TOB has to be verified, before prediction. One has to be practical in the matter.If a child is born in an American Hospital in presence of father,who gies you a photo of the birth as will as the time, it would be unnecessary to further verification, just for sake of following a rule.good luck raichur anant mumbai--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in> wrote: Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in>Re: Re: Birth time rectification@gro ups.comMonday, September 22, 2008, 3:31 PM Dear Bhaskar ji, You are missing one point. I am not saying that, I cannot do it. The point here is any horoscope before it is taken up for analysis, has to be rectified. Am I correct? Further, If I as a layman go I to two different astrlogers (by email) say with a gap of 1 year, then the first KP astrologer (in mumbai) would have done his rectification. After a gap of 1 year, I go to another KP astrologer (in USA), he would also do the rectification. In the above case, if the 2nd astrologer arrives at Pisces asc based on the RP, and also provides his predictions, then, isn't it absurd. Thanks...... ......Sundar --- On Mon, 22/9/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> Re: Birth time rectification@gro ups.comMonday, 22 September, 2008, 1:26 PM Dear Sundar ji, I am no expert on Kp, but you dont need an expert to do this. First of all why do you need to consult two people from 2 continents at the same time ? That would be absurd. Secondly why do you need anyone at all, if you know this much about Ruling planets. Out of curiosity I just checked the RP's now at Bombay 22nd September. Time is 13.15.22 ( jagannath Hora software used ). I get Sagittarius rising. Moon in Rahu star. Moon in Raashi of Mercury. Day is Monday Asc. star is ketu. If You look further than asc.SL is jupiter. Saturn does not appear anywhere. Try to rectify your time keeping Pisces asc. as base in mind, and verify the events as per dashas running alongwith the significators of the dasha Lords. I am myself born near your birthplace at Eluru in same month and year on June 28th 1961.. I did my rectification myself and compared it with experts verdict afterwards.. You must try the same. regards, Bhaskar. www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com @gro ups.com, "sundar190561" <sundar190561@ ....> wrote:>> In my case, the asc is exactly on the cusp between Aquarius & > Pisces. A change in timing of 2 to 4 minutes will take the ascendant > from Aquarius to Pisces and due to this the house lordships will > urdergo a change. > > Secondly, if two persons take up the rectification by "ruling > planets" from two diametrically opposite continents, the ruling > planets will also be different. > > In such a case how does one go about rectification of chart.> > I have given my birth details below:> > DOB: 22nd June, 1961> TOB: 23:38 (IST)> POB: Bhimavaram, AP, Lat:16N32, Long:81E32> > Could any of the experts throw light on this.> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 Dear Sir, Even though I am a general surgeon I have conducted many many deliveries for about 35 years. I have conducted many CS operations as well. I can tell you emphatically that no body stands to record time when the baby takes in respiration. Usually they record time when the baby comes out completely. So the time given by the institution is not always accurate. With regards. Dr. Luther sujatkaram <sujatkaram Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:56:35 PM Re: Birth time rectification Respected Dr. Luther Rath,Sir,I would like to get my two points clarified from you because you are from the field of medicine and a notable astrologer too. Many times the TOB certified by doctors is something like 02.34p.m., 01.23a.m. etc. etc.The very fact that the time has not been rounded off shows that during the course of delivery of a child something has happened exactly at that time that qualifies to be called the birth of a child.What is it exactly? Secondly, after drafting the chart of the child based on the time furnished by the doctor, the astrologer rectifies that time to arrive at the astrological TOB. Has it ever been verified as to what exactly happens during delivery at this rectified time? I hope I have expressed my doubts clear enough.regards, sujatkaram-- - In @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sir,> I do fully agree that birth time need be verified in all cases before going for prediction. If found necessary it has to be rectified by what ever metnod you follow.The birth time provided invariably differs from the astrological birth time. It's so because people record the time at different stages of birth. Some record when the head is out, some when the whole body comes out and some when the baby show signs of life. In case of birth by breech still adds confussion. It has been discussed many a times regarding astrological birth time, in this forum.> With regards.> Dr. Luther> > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@. ..>> @gro ups.com> Monday, September 22, 2008 8:43:16 PM> Re: Re: Birth time rectification> > > Dear Mr.Raichur,> As per K.P., it is advisable to check/verify the correctness of any Birth Chart given for reading...KSK has,advised 3 steps(ref:: Reader VI Pp134-142) :> i) Verification of Birth Time Given> ii) Correction of Birth Time> iii) Then to fix the correct position of the Ascendant.> Several methods have been discussed too...> Also,I am not so sure that the exact Time of Birth is noted...> In any case what is the harm in checking...? If it is correctly noted it MUST reflect in the RPs at Birth and also at the Time of judgement... !> In my own practice I check the Birth Time for every horoscope handed to me for predictions during consultation. ..> With highest regards,> L.Y.Rao.> > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar >> @gro ups.com> Monday, 22 September, 2008 4:59:34 PM> Re: Re: Birth time rectification> > > Not every TOB has to be verified, before prediction. One has to be practical in the matter.> If a child is born in an American Hospital in presence of father,who gies you a photo of the birth as will as the time, it would be unnecessary to further verification, just for sake of following a rule.> good luck> > > raichur anant mumbai> > --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in> wrote:> > Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in>> Re: Re: Birth time rectification> @gro ups.com> Monday, September 22, 2008, 3:31 PM> > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > You are missing one point. I am not saying that, I cannot do it. The point here is any horoscope before it is taken up for analysis, has to be rectified. Am I correct?> > Further, If I as a layman go I to two different astrlogers (by email) say with a gap of 1 year, then the first KP astrologer (in mumbai) would have done his rectification. After a gap of 1 year, I go to another KP astrologer (in USA), he would also do the rectification. > > In the above case, if the 2nd astrologer arrives at Pisces asc based on the RP, and also provides his predictions, then, isn't it absurd.> > > Thanks...... ......Sundar > > --- On Mon, 22/9/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> Re: Birth time rectification> @gro ups.com> Monday, 22 September, 2008, 1:26 PM> > > Dear Sundar ji,> I am no expert on Kp, but you dont need an expert to do this.> > First of all why do you need to consult two people from 2 continents at the same time ? That would be absurd. Secondly why do you need anyone at all, if you know this much about Ruling planets.> > Out of curiosity I just checked the RP's now at Bombay 22nd September.> Time is 13.15.22 ( jagannath Hora software used ). > > I get Sagittarius rising.> Moon in Rahu star. > Moon in Raashi of Mercury.> Day is Monday> Asc. star is ketu.> > If You look further than asc.SL is jupiter.> > Saturn does not appear anywhere.> > Try to rectify your time keeping Pisces asc. as base in mind, and verify the events as per dashas running alongwith the significators of the dasha Lords.> > I am myself born near your birthplace at Eluru in> same month and year on June 28th 1961..> I did my rectification myself and compared it with experts > verdict afterwards. You must try the same.> > regards,> Bhaskar. www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com> > > > > > @gro ups.com, "sundar190561" <sundar190561@ ...> wrote:> >> > In my case, the asc is exactly on the cusp between Aquarius & > > Pisces. A change in timing of 2 to 4 minutes will take the ascendant > > from Aquarius to Pisces and due to this the house lordships will > > urdergo a change. > > > > Secondly, if two persons take up the rectification by "ruling > > planets" from two diametrically opposite continents, the ruling > > planets will also be different. > > > > In such a case how does one go about rectification of chart.> > > > I have given my birth details below:> > > > DOB: 22nd June, 1961> > TOB: 23:38 (IST)> > POB: Bhimavaram, AP, Lat:16N32, Long:81E32> > > > Could any of the experts throw light on this.> >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 Dear Sir , Thanks for giving such scientific , perfect note on birth time . with regards, Neeraj--- On Wed, 9/24/08, rao chitturu <csr162002 wrote: rao chitturu <csr162002Re: Re: Birth time rectification Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 2:05 PM Neeraj, Classical authors openion is the time of first breath - this is identified as the time of cry- the symptom of baby's cry is - a sign of allergy when the air is inhaled for the first time - The logic for this is biologically lungs and heart get choked- the longevity is based on the duration of breath in the life time - Those who practice a state of "breathlessness" in hata yoga are expected to live longer to the extent of their stay in the state of brethlessness- You may find such yogis in himalayas. rao chitturu --- On Tue, 23/9/08, Neeraj Chowksey <chowkseyneeraj@ > wrote: Neeraj Chowksey <chowkseyneeraj@ >Re: Re: Birth time rectification@gro ups.comCc: rathluther Tuesday, 23 September, 2008, 4:47 PM Dear Sir, What is the astrological birth time according to you ? 1) head comes out 2)whole body comes out OR baby shows sign of life. I thing, when baby is inside her mother's stomack she takes everything i.e. food, breath through her mother, when she comes out and takes first breath out side should be the time of birth, or when stem chord is cut, she becomes an independent human being for this SRUSHTI. that should be the time of birth. this is what my logic. Dear all seniors flash some light on matter. thanks & regards, NEERAJ--- On Tue, 9/23/08, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: Re: Birth time rectification@gro ups.comTuesday, September 23, 2008, 12:17 AM Dear Sir, I do fully agree that birth time need be verified in all cases before going for prediction. If found necessary it has to be rectified by what ever metnod you follow.The birth time provided invariably differs from the astrological birth time. It's so because people record the time at different stages of birth. Some record when the head is out, some when the whole body comes out and some when the baby show signs of life. In case of birth by breech still adds confussion. It has been discussed many a times regarding astrological birth time, in this forum. With regards. Dr. Luther Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comMonday, September 22, 2008 8:43:16 PMRe: Re: Birth time rectification Dear Mr.Raichur, As per K.P., it is advisable to check/verify the correctness of any Birth Chart given for reading...KSK has,advised 3 steps(ref::Reader VI Pp134-142) : i) Verification of Birth Time Given ii) Correction of Birth Time iii) Then to fix the correct position of the Ascendant. Several methods have been discussed too... Also,I am not so sure that the exact Time of Birth is noted... In any case what is the harm in checking...? If it is correctly noted it MUST reflect in the RPs at Birth and also at the Time of judgement... ! In my own practice I check the Birth Time for every horoscope handed to me for predictions during consultation. .. With highest regards, L..Y.Rao. Raichur-a-r <raichurar >@gro ups.comMonday, 22 September, 2008 4:59:34 PMRe: Re: Birth time rectification Not every TOB has to be verified, before prediction. One has to be practical in the matter.If a child is born in an American Hospital in presence of father,who gies you a photo of the birth as will as the time, it would be unnecessary to further verification, just for sake of following a rule.good luck raichur anant mumbai--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in> wrote: Sundar Balakrishnan <sundar190561@ .co. in>Re: Re: Birth time rectification@gro ups.comMonday, September 22, 2008, 3:31 PM Dear Bhaskar ji, You are missing one point. I am not saying that, I cannot do it. The point here is any horoscope before it is taken up for analysis, has to be rectified. Am I correct? Further, If I as a layman go I to two different astrlogers (by email) say with a gap of 1 year, then the first KP astrologer (in mumbai) would have done his rectification. After a gap of 1 year, I go to another KP astrologer (in USA), he would also do the rectification. In the above case, if the 2nd astrologer arrives at Pisces asc based on the RP, and also provides his predictions, then, isn't it absurd. Thanks...... ......Sundar --- On Mon, 22/9/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> Re: Birth time rectification@gro ups.comMonday, 22 September, 2008, 1:26 PM Dear Sundar ji, I am no expert on Kp, but you dont need an expert to do this. First of all why do you need to consult two people from 2 continents at the same time ? That would be absurd. Secondly why do you need anyone at all, if you know this much about Ruling planets. Out of curiosity I just checked the RP's now at Bombay 22nd September. Time is 13.15.22 ( jagannath Hora software used ). I get Sagittarius rising. Moon in Rahu star. Moon in Raashi of Mercury. Day is Monday Asc. star is ketu. If You look further than asc.SL is jupiter. Saturn does not appear anywhere. Try to rectify your time keeping Pisces asc. as base in mind, and verify the events as per dashas running alongwith the significators of the dasha Lords. I am myself born near your birthplace at Eluru in same month and year on June 28th 1961.. I did my rectification myself and compared it with experts verdict afterwards.. You must try the same. regards, Bhaskar. www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com @gro ups.com, "sundar190561" <sundar190561@ ....> wrote:>> In my case, the asc is exactly on the cusp between Aquarius & > Pisces. A change in timing of 2 to 4 minutes will take the ascendant > from Aquarius to Pisces and due to this the house lordships will > urdergo a change. > > Secondly, if two persons take up the rectification by "ruling > planets" from two diametrically opposite continents, the ruling > planets will also be different. > > In such a case how does one go about rectification of chart.> > I have given my birth details below:> > DOB: 22nd June, 1961> TOB: 23:38 (IST)> POB: Bhimavaram, AP, Lat:16N32, Long:81E32> > Could any of the experts throw light on this.> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Namaste Gopal Goel ji, Is it possible for you to illustriate birth rectification using Vargas ? For in my personal opinion, though we all use that, it has some complexity to be carefully handled for any minor shift may give you a good navamsa, ....may get different Vargamsa elsewhere..... and it becomes a zig-zag puzzle ..... With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 || OM TAT SAT || Dear all, With a new perspective on BT rectification through Pranapada, I have written a paper on my blog. http://astrology.ydiary.com/articles/ http://astrology.ydiary.com/articles/tag/birth-time-rectification It is also published on www.articlesbase.com Regards, Nitish , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64 wrote: > > > Namaste Gopal Goel ji, > > Is it possible for you to illustriate birth rectification using Vargas ? > For in my personal opinion, though we all use that, it has some > complexity to be carefully handled for any minor shift may give you a > good navamsa, ....may get different Vargamsa elsewhere..... and it > becomes a zig-zag puzzle ..... > > With regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Dear Nitish ji, Thank you for this informative post and blog. Just a small question, You mentioned a new perspective, so can you please tell us what is the deviation from the ancient method of BTR through Pranapada, you have done, and where, at which stage ? rehgards/Bhaskar. , " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya wrote: > > || OM TAT SAT || > Dear all, > With a new perspective on BT rectification through Pranapada, I > have written a paper on my blog. > > http://astrology.ydiary.com/articles/ > http://astrology.ydiary.com/articles/tag/birth-time-rectification > > It is also published on www.articlesbase.com > > Regards, > Nitish > > , " sreeram > srinivas " sreeram64@ wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Gopal Goel ji, > > > > Is it possible for you to illustriate birth rectification using > Vargas ? > > For in my personal opinion, though we all use that, it has some > > complexity to be carefully handled for any minor shift may give you > a > > good navamsa, ....may get different Vargamsa elsewhere..... and it > > becomes a zig-zag puzzle ..... > > > > With regards, > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Nitish ji, Can you take other charts as example than sticking to the 8 kids . As that birth is more due to Maya or Moha of there mother. I do agree that the rule must be applicable to them also. But why trying to apply in on odd cases - or situation. Thanks Nandana On 25/02/2009, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Nitish ji, > > Thank you for this informative post and blog. > > Just a small question, You mentioned a new perspective, so can you > please tell us what is the deviation from the ancient method of BTR > through Pranapada, you have done, and where, at which stage ? > > rehgards/Bhaskar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Dear Members, There is a book on Birth time rectification " Your true Horoscope " by Mr. SP Khullar. He follows the system of Cuspal Interlink Theory which was originally discussed in three books written by Mr.K. Bhaskaran. Mr. Bhaskaran also refers to some book on birthtime rectification, and I have not been able to lay my hands on that book. In my view, Mr. Kullar has put forward some very cogent explanations for the method he has suggested. I am not their direct student or I am not trying to promote their books. I consider that both Mr. Bhaskarn and Mr. Khullar have done yeoman service to Astrology by trying to look at things logically and avoided sitting on fence . Those who are interested in looking at some clear explananations will certainly be not dissppointed by having a lokk at these books. Regards,Udupa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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