In reality, it's Bob's Group... at least, currently!

February 14, 2010

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > ac, i agree with you. i know bob is offending but think about

it...what's most shocking than non-duality for the dualist mind? it's

scandalous. among the most shocking people of all, nondualists fans, bob is

elementary. it's all tolerated here to a certain extent.

> > > >

> > >

> > > Dear Hur Jee:

> > >

> > > I think repeated, unwarranted " verbal insults " , " verbal abuses " are

indicative of certain 'personality types' and are only few steps removed from

real physical violence. I think these are 'warning signs' that something is

deeply wrong with the person using it.

> > >

> > > What can happen when others start returning... 'fire for fire'?

> > >

> > > My views on what is " virtual " and what is " real " and what is " online "

versus what is real-life, changed dramatically, when...

> > >

> > > ...I read one man threaten to visit another and break his head open.

> > >

> > > and, when the other threatened to print that " threat letter " and take it

to police!

> > >

> > > Virtual and real could intersect quite easily.

> > >

> > > On these forums, I saw other instances of...

> > >

> > > ... people visiting each other.

> > >

> > > ... men and women deciding to live together.

> > >

> > > ... somebody maligning someone else online and in response, that person

publishing offender's real name, address and personal history on many forums and

websites.

> > >

> > > ...another instance of someone threatening to talk to lawyer and to file a

complain.

> > >

> > > After all this, I realized that " real " and " virtual " aren't totally

separate and that all 'warning signs' should be heed in time. Excessive,

repeated, unwarranted verbal abuse can be a sign of an angry, emotionally

disturbed, unstable personality and due to this reason, I think such behavior

should be considered " off limit " on " spiritual " forums.

> > >

> > > With much respect,

> > > ac

> >

> > Hur..

> >

> > the above..

> >

> > taken in conjunction with the barrage of other obsessive posts today..

> >

> > are indicative of Hysteria.

> >

> > it may be that such a dangerous psychological condition..

> >

> > as is here being exhibited and seemingly getting out of control..

> >

> > will continue and will result in the one suffering said obsession..

> >

> > (our beloved ac)..

> >

> > continuing at ever increasing pace and fervor.

> >

> > to post these howlings again and again.

> >

> > the ones we've witnessed so far then are likely..

> >

> > merely precursors to further off the wall postings.

> >

> > let's encourage ac to continue.

> >

> > i've had few times that i've laughed so much so often..

> >

> > in so little space of time.

> >

> > thank for understanding.

> >

> > :-)

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> Well, one thing about this list - it certainly shows the " attraction to

personalized responding " ...

>

> And that tendency to go for personalizing, shows where human emotion goes, and

what drives the " personal reality. "

>

> One can say over and over that " reality is impersonal " - but that just becomes

a belief system. Meanwhile the emotions that drive human understanding

gravitate to formation of a person reality with a " personal understander of it "

- based on emotions, the past ...

>

> Bob eggs this on - he enjoys stirring it up.

>

> So, why not step back, and observe what happens?

>

> Be clear on it ...

>

> Love to All -

>

> - Dan -

what's love dabbo?

what's clarity?

who's observing?

" Bob " can neither " egg on " nor " step back " .

what do you suppose is really happening?

this should be rich!

:-)

..b b.b.

February 14, 2010

Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote:

> > >

> > > larry was removed once and i don't remember exactly how many times bob was

removed but he came back. bob likes it here for some reason...

> >

> > This one might be quite simple, Hur Jee!

> >

> > Bob was removed from NDS.

> >

> > (NondualitySalon/?yguid=181049836

> > Members: 1198)

> >

> > Bon was removed from GuruRatings.

> >

> > ( GuruRatings/

> > Members: 1691 )

> >

> > And, as you say Bob was also removed from this list.

> >

> > These three are among very few (maybe, " only " other than Advaitin) forums in

nonduality area with so many (1000+) members.

> >

> > Out of these three, because of his 'past record', Bob is very unlikely to be

allowed to post freely on GuruRating or NDS. That leaves only this forum where

there are many members and where he is relatively free to pee and shit all over

as long he doesn't offend the moderator directly.

> >

> > With much respect,

> > ac

>

> P: ac, give it up! Hur has spoken, He thinks

> Bob is the most useful member in this list.

When facts are presented and considered, opinions can change.

According to Hur ji, he removed Bob ji from this forum many times. He moderated

Bob ji. He started a poll asking member's opinion on what to do with Bob Ji.

I thought Bob ji was a pretty good members. However, once I had few personal

interactions with him and read more of his interactions with others, my opinion

changed and I started seeing him as deranged member who is killing the

possibility meaningful discussion with his excessive and unwarranted insults and

abuses.

> It is his list, not yours. Accept what you can't

> change, no? No one should be insulted by words.

> You are only showing that you haven't see that

> yet.

> >

>

I am not sure, if I need to feel " personally hurt " in order to request a teacher

to stop a kid from peeing in the classroom or to expel him if he does it

repeatedly in spite of many warnings. Or, to ask my manager to do something

about a team-mate who keeps repeatedly farting in a group meeting. Or, to ask my

neighbor to stop his dog from shitting on the pubic walkway. I consider these

objectionable and " off limit " behaviors irrespective of whether I get personally

hurt by them or not.

I also don't see any need to be beyond getting hurt physically or verbally. So

far, I am fine being an 'ordinary human'. Bob jee hasn't hurt me much. But, it

is not because I am beyond hurt. It is simply because so far, he has been gross

than skillful and efficient. There are some excellent people who managed to hurt

me far more without ever having to call me " Asshole " and such.

Hope your " meeting " with Bob ji hasn't changed your view dramatically :-) If it

has, please let me know.

with love,

ac

February 14, 2010

Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > larry was removed once and i don't remember exactly how many times bob

was removed but he came back. bob likes it here for some reason...

> > >

> > > This one might be quite simple, Hur Jee!

> > >

> > > Bob was removed from NDS.

> > >

> > > (NondualitySalon/?yguid=181049836

> > > Members: 1198)

> > >

> > > Bon was removed from GuruRatings.

> > >

> > > ( GuruRatings/

> > > Members: 1691 )

> > >

> > > And, as you say Bob was also removed from this list.

> > >

> > > These three are among very few (maybe, " only " other than Advaitin) forums

in nonduality area with so many (1000+) members.

> > >

> > > Out of these three, because of his 'past record', Bob is very unlikely to

be allowed to post freely on GuruRating or NDS. That leaves only this forum

where there are many members and where he is relatively free to pee and shit all

over as long he doesn't offend the moderator directly.

> > >

> > > With much respect,

> > > ac

> >

> > P: ac, give it up! Hur has spoken, He thinks

> > Bob is the most useful member in this list.

>

> When facts are presented and considered, opinions can change.

>

> According to Hur ji, he removed Bob ji from this forum many times. He

moderated Bob ji. He started a poll asking member's opinion on what to do with

Bob Ji.

>

> I thought Bob ji was a pretty good members. However, once I had few personal

interactions with him and read more of his interactions with others, my opinion

changed and I started seeing him as deranged member who is killing the

possibility meaningful discussion with his excessive and unwarranted insults and

abuses.

>

> > It is his list, not yours. Accept what you can't

> > change, no? No one should be insulted by words.

> > You are only showing that you haven't see that

> > yet.

> > >

> >

>

> I am not sure, if I need to feel " personally hurt " in order to request a

teacher to stop a kid from peeing in the classroom or to expel him if he does it

repeatedly in spite of many warnings. Or, to ask my manager to do something

about a team-mate who keeps repeatedly farting in a group meeting. Or, to ask my

neighbor to stop his dog from shitting on the pubic walkway. I consider these

objectionable and " off limit " behaviors irrespective of whether I get personally

hurt by them or not.

>

> I also don't see any need to be beyond getting hurt physically or verbally. So

far, I am fine being an 'ordinary human'. Bob jee hasn't hurt me much. But, it

is not because I am beyond hurt. It is simply because so far, he has been gross

than skillful and efficient. There are some excellent people who managed to hurt

me far more without ever having to call me " Asshole " and such.

>

> Hope your " meeting " with Bob ji hasn't changed your view dramatically :-) If

it has, please let me know.

>

> with love,

> ac

LOL!

ac is a boy on a mission.

a little hysterical yes..

but a boy on a mission from God nonetheless.

too bad Bob is God.

ROFLMAO!

..b b.b.

February 14, 2010

Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > ac, i agree with you. i know bob is offending but think about

it...what's most shocking than non-duality for the dualist mind? it's

scandalous. among the most shocking people of all, nondualists fans, bob is

elementary. it's all tolerated here to a certain extent.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Hur Jee:

> > > >

> > > > I think repeated, unwarranted " verbal insults " , " verbal abuses " are

indicative of certain 'personality types' and are only few steps removed from

real physical violence. I think these are 'warning signs' that something is

deeply wrong with the person using it.

> > > >

> > > > What can happen when others start returning... 'fire for fire'?

> > > >

> > > > My views on what is " virtual " and what is " real " and what is " online "

versus what is real-life, changed dramatically, when...

> > > >

> > > > ...I read one man threaten to visit another and break his head open.

> > > >

> > > > and, when the other threatened to print that " threat letter " and take it

to police!

> > > >

> > > > Virtual and real could intersect quite easily.

> > > >

> > > > On these forums, I saw other instances of...

> > > >

> > > > ... people visiting each other.

> > > >

> > > > ... men and women deciding to live together.

> > > >

> > > > ... somebody maligning someone else online and in response, that person

publishing offender's real name, address and personal history on many forums and

websites.

> > > >

> > > > ...another instance of someone threatening to talk to lawyer and to file

a complain.

> > > >

> > > > After all this, I realized that " real " and " virtual " aren't totally

separate and that all 'warning signs' should be heed in time. Excessive,

repeated, unwarranted verbal abuse can be a sign of an angry, emotionally

disturbed, unstable personality and due to this reason, I think such behavior

should be considered " off limit " on " spiritual " forums.

> > > >

> > > > With much respect,

> > > > ac

> > >

> > > Hur..

> > >

> > > the above..

> > >

> > > taken in conjunction with the barrage of other obsessive posts today..

> > >

> > > are indicative of Hysteria.

> > >

> > > it may be that such a dangerous psychological condition..

> > >

> > > as is here being exhibited and seemingly getting out of control..

> > >

> > > will continue and will result in the one suffering said obsession..

> > >

> > > (our beloved ac)..

> > >

> > > continuing at ever increasing pace and fervor.

> > >

> > > to post these howlings again and again.

> > >

> > > the ones we've witnessed so far then are likely..

> > >

> > > merely precursors to further off the wall postings.

> > >

> > > let's encourage ac to continue.

> > >

> > > i've had few times that i've laughed so much so often..

> > >

> > > in so little space of time.

> > >

> > > thank for understanding.

> > >

> > > :-)

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > Well, one thing about this list - it certainly shows the " attraction to

personalized responding " ...

> >

> > And that tendency to go for personalizing, shows where human emotion goes,

and what drives the " personal reality. "

> >

> > One can say over and over that " reality is impersonal " - but that just

becomes a belief system. Meanwhile the emotions that drive human understanding

gravitate to formation of a person reality with a " personal understander of it "

- based on emotions, the past ...

> >

> > Bob eggs this on - he enjoys stirring it up.

> >

> > So, why not step back, and observe what happens?

> >

> > Be clear on it ...

> >

> > Love to All -

> >

> > - Dan -

>

> what's love dabbo?

>

> what's clarity?

>

> who's observing?

>

> " Bob " can neither " egg on " nor " step back " .

>

> what do you suppose is really happening?

>

> this should be rich!

>

> :-)

>

> .b b.b.

Baby you're a rich man, baby you're a rich man, too.

Love,

Richey Rich

February 14, 2010

Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > larry was removed once and i don't remember exactly how many times bob

was removed but he came back. bob likes it here for some reason...

> > >

> > > This one might be quite simple, Hur Jee!

> > >

> > > Bob was removed from NDS.

> > >

> > > (NondualitySalon/?yguid=181049836

> > > Members: 1198)

> > >

> > > Bon was removed from GuruRatings.

> > >

> > > ( GuruRatings/

> > > Members: 1691 )

> > >

> > > And, as you say Bob was also removed from this list.

> > >

> > > These three are among very few (maybe, " only " other than Advaitin) forums

in nonduality area with so many (1000+) members.

> > >

> > > Out of these three, because of his 'past record', Bob is very unlikely to

be allowed to post freely on GuruRating or NDS. That leaves only this forum

where there are many members and where he is relatively free to pee and shit all

over as long he doesn't offend the moderator directly.

> > >

> > > With much respect,

> > > ac

> >

> > P: ac, give it up! Hur has spoken, He thinks

> > Bob is the most useful member in this list.

>

> When facts are presented and considered, opinions can change.

>

> According to Hur ji, he removed Bob ji from this forum many times. He

moderated Bob ji. He started a poll asking member's opinion on what to do with

Bob Ji.

>

> I thought Bob ji was a pretty good members. However, once I had few personal

interactions with him and read more of his interactions with others, my opinion

changed and I started seeing him as deranged member who is killing the

possibility meaningful discussion with his excessive and unwarranted insults and

abuses.

>

> > It is his list, not yours. Accept what you can't

> > change, no? No one should be insulted by words.

> > You are only showing that you haven't see that

> > yet.

> > >

> >

>

> I am not sure, if I need to feel " personally hurt " in order to request a

teacher to stop a kid from peeing in the classroom or to expel him if he does it

repeatedly in spite of many warnings. Or, to ask my manager to do something

about a team-mate who keeps repeatedly farting in a group meeting. Or, to ask my

neighbor to stop his dog from shitting on the pubic walkway. I consider these

objectionable and " off limit " behaviors irrespective of whether I get personally

hurt by them or not.

>

> I also don't see any need to be beyond getting hurt physically or verbally. So

far, I am fine being an 'ordinary human'. Bob jee hasn't hurt me much. But, it

is not because I am beyond hurt. It is simply because so far, he has been gross

than skillful and efficient. There are some excellent people who managed to hurt

me far more without ever having to call me " Asshole " and such.

>

> Hope your " meeting " with Bob ji hasn't changed your view dramatically :-) If

it has, please let me know.

>

> with love,

> ac

>

P: Arvind, it's very important to understand offense.

Who gets offended? Self-image, self importance does.

Those who react to hostile words in the same way

they do to hostile acts live in a verbal madhouse

where words do break bones.

I haven't met Bob. What changed my view of him is

that he has changed. Before Bob posted like a

lunatic with a machine gun. Now he is surgeon. Well,

from time to time, he tries to amputate the wrong

leg, but, hey! Surgeon's errors kill more people than

serial killers. Bob and surgeons are necessary, or

so, Hur thinks. )

February 14, 2010

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ac, i agree with you. i know bob is offending but think about

it...what's most shocking than non-duality for the dualist mind? it's

scandalous. among the most shocking people of all, nondualists fans, bob is

elementary. it's all tolerated here to a certain extent.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Hur Jee:

> > > > >

> > > > > I think repeated, unwarranted " verbal insults " , " verbal abuses " are

indicative of certain 'personality types' and are only few steps removed from

real physical violence. I think these are 'warning signs' that something is

deeply wrong with the person using it.

> > > > >

> > > > > What can happen when others start returning... 'fire for fire'?

> > > > >

> > > > > My views on what is " virtual " and what is " real " and what is " online "

versus what is real-life, changed dramatically, when...

> > > > >

> > > > > ...I read one man threaten to visit another and break his head open.

> > > > >

> > > > > and, when the other threatened to print that " threat letter " and take

it to police!

> > > > >

> > > > > Virtual and real could intersect quite easily.

> > > > >

> > > > > On these forums, I saw other instances of...

> > > > >

> > > > > ... people visiting each other.

> > > > >

> > > > > ... men and women deciding to live together.

> > > > >

> > > > > ... somebody maligning someone else online and in response, that

person publishing offender's real name, address and personal history on many

forums and websites.

> > > > >

> > > > > ...another instance of someone threatening to talk to lawyer and to

file a complain.

> > > > >

> > > > > After all this, I realized that " real " and " virtual " aren't totally

separate and that all 'warning signs' should be heed in time. Excessive,

repeated, unwarranted verbal abuse can be a sign of an angry, emotionally

disturbed, unstable personality and due to this reason, I think such behavior

should be considered " off limit " on " spiritual " forums.

> > > > >

> > > > > With much respect,

> > > > > ac

> > > >

> > > > Hur..

> > > >

> > > > the above..

> > > >

> > > > taken in conjunction with the barrage of other obsessive posts today..

> > > >

> > > > are indicative of Hysteria.

> > > >

> > > > it may be that such a dangerous psychological condition..

> > > >

> > > > as is here being exhibited and seemingly getting out of control..

> > > >

> > > > will continue and will result in the one suffering said obsession..

> > > >

> > > > (our beloved ac)..

> > > >

> > > > continuing at ever increasing pace and fervor.

> > > >

> > > > to post these howlings again and again.

> > > >

> > > > the ones we've witnessed so far then are likely..

> > > >

> > > > merely precursors to further off the wall postings.

> > > >

> > > > let's encourage ac to continue.

> > > >

> > > > i've had few times that i've laughed so much so often..

> > > >

> > > > in so little space of time.

> > > >

> > > > thank for understanding.

> > > >

> > > > :-)

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > Well, one thing about this list - it certainly shows the " attraction to

personalized responding " ...

> > >

> > > And that tendency to go for personalizing, shows where human emotion goes,

and what drives the " personal reality. "

> > >

> > > One can say over and over that " reality is impersonal " - but that just

becomes a belief system. Meanwhile the emotions that drive human understanding

gravitate to formation of a person reality with a " personal understander of it "

- based on emotions, the past ...

> > >

> > > Bob eggs this on - he enjoys stirring it up.

> > >

> > > So, why not step back, and observe what happens?

> > >

> > > Be clear on it ...

> > >

> > > Love to All -

> > >

> > > - Dan -

> >

> > what's love dabbo?

> >

> > what's clarity?

> >

> > who's observing?

> >

> > " Bob " can neither " egg on " nor " step back " .

> >

> > what do you suppose is really happening?

> >

> > this should be rich!

> >

> > :-)

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> Baby you're a rich man, baby you're a rich man, too.

>

> Love,

>

> Richey Rich

well actually i am Richie.

but strangely it's not attractive to me.

i don't know what it's supposed to signify.

it doesn't make steak taste any better.

i can still only eat one bite at a time.

and all the cool movies are about not so rich people.

can you imagine what it's like not caring if you win the lotto or not?

but then the alternative is just as unappealing.

it's better to be blase on these issues.

now that does appeal!

..b b.b.

February 14, 2010

Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > larry was removed once and i don't remember exactly how many times bob

was removed but he came back. bob likes it here for some reason...

> > > >

> > > > This one might be quite simple, Hur Jee!

> > > >

> > > > Bob was removed from NDS.

> > > >

> > > > (NondualitySalon/?yguid=181049836

> > > > Members: 1198)

> > > >

> > > > Bon was removed from GuruRatings.

> > > >

> > > > ( GuruRatings/

> > > > Members: 1691 )

> > > >

> > > > And, as you say Bob was also removed from this list.

> > > >

> > > > These three are among very few (maybe, " only " other than Advaitin)

forums in nonduality area with so many (1000+) members.

> > > >

> > > > Out of these three, because of his 'past record', Bob is very unlikely

to be allowed to post freely on GuruRating or NDS. That leaves only this forum

where there are many members and where he is relatively free to pee and shit all

over as long he doesn't offend the moderator directly.

> > > >

> > > > With much respect,

> > > > ac

> > >

> > > P: ac, give it up! Hur has spoken, He thinks

> > > Bob is the most useful member in this list.

> >

> > When facts are presented and considered, opinions can change.

> >

> > According to Hur ji, he removed Bob ji from this forum many times. He

moderated Bob ji. He started a poll asking member's opinion on what to do with

Bob Ji.

> >

> > I thought Bob ji was a pretty good members. However, once I had few personal

interactions with him and read more of his interactions with others, my opinion

changed and I started seeing him as deranged member who is killing the

possibility meaningful discussion with his excessive and unwarranted insults and

abuses.

> >

> > > It is his list, not yours. Accept what you can't

> > > change, no? No one should be insulted by words.

> > > You are only showing that you haven't see that

> > > yet.

> > > >

> > >

> >

> > I am not sure, if I need to feel " personally hurt " in order to request a

teacher to stop a kid from peeing in the classroom or to expel him if he does it

repeatedly in spite of many warnings. Or, to ask my manager to do something

about a team-mate who keeps repeatedly farting in a group meeting. Or, to ask my

neighbor to stop his dog from shitting on the pubic walkway. I consider these

objectionable and " off limit " behaviors irrespective of whether I get personally

hurt by them or not.

> >

> > I also don't see any need to be beyond getting hurt physically or verbally.

So far, I am fine being an 'ordinary human'. Bob jee hasn't hurt me much. But,

it is not because I am beyond hurt. It is simply because so far, he has been

gross than skillful and efficient. There are some excellent people who managed

to hurt me far more without ever having to call me " Asshole " and such.

> >

> > Hope your " meeting " with Bob ji hasn't changed your view dramatically :-) If

it has, please let me know.

> >

> > with love,

> > ac

> >

>

> P: Arvind, it's very important to understand offense.

> Who gets offended? Self-image, self importance does.

> Those who react to hostile words in the same way

> they do to hostile acts live in a verbal madhouse

> where words do break bones.

>

> I haven't met Bob. What changed my view of him is

> that he has changed. Before Bob posted like a

> lunatic with a machine gun. Now he is surgeon. Well,

> from time to time, he tries to amputate the wrong

> leg, but, hey! Surgeon's errors kill more people than

> serial killers. Bob and surgeons are necessary, or

> so, Hur thinks. )

>

i don't think bob is necessary. he's just part of the picture. usually in the

history of open groups someone plays his role but at some point the candle burns

out and a new " bob-like " serial poster appears. in moderated lists if anyone

sticks their head out of the rye field for too long they're removed. i guess you

can call bob the pusher in the rye.

February 14, 2010

Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> well actually i am Richie.

>

> but strangely it's not attractive to me.

>

> i don't know what it's supposed to signify.

>

> it doesn't make steak taste any better.

>

> i can still only eat one bite at a time.

>

> and all the cool movies are about not so rich people.

Have you ever noticed how many movies are about people living in really big

houses?

> can you imagine what it's like not caring if you win the lotto or not?

No. Sounds like you've got no worries about the needs at the base of Maslow's

pyramid.

> but then the alternative is just as unappealing.

For sure.

> it's better to be blase on these issues.

>

> now that does appeal!

Actually, it's better to be Blassie on these issues, Classy Freddy Blassie.

For one thing, you wouldn't have to be dealing with this shit anymore.

For another thing, you could call people " pencil necked geeks, " which would fun.

And you could say at the point of death:

" I had a great life, something you can't buy. You could spend all the money in

the world and not have as much fun as I had. It was a wonderful life. "

Now, that's classy. And blassie.

- Dan -

February 14, 2010

Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > larry was removed once and i don't remember exactly how many times

bob was removed but he came back. bob likes it here for some reason...

> > > > >

> > > > > This one might be quite simple, Hur Jee!

> > > > >

> > > > > Bob was removed from NDS.

> > > > >

> > > > > (NondualitySalon/?yguid=181049836

> > > > > Members: 1198)

> > > > >

> > > > > Bon was removed from GuruRatings.

> > > > >

> > > > > ( GuruRatings/

> > > > > Members: 1691 )

> > > > >

> > > > > And, as you say Bob was also removed from this list.

> > > > >

> > > > > These three are among very few (maybe, " only " other than Advaitin)

forums in nonduality area with so many (1000+) members.

> > > > >

> > > > > Out of these three, because of his 'past record', Bob is very unlikely

to be allowed to post freely on GuruRating or NDS. That leaves only this forum

where there are many members and where he is relatively free to pee and shit all

over as long he doesn't offend the moderator directly.

> > > > >

> > > > > With much respect,

> > > > > ac

> > > >

> > > > P: ac, give it up! Hur has spoken, He thinks

> > > > Bob is the most useful member in this list.

> > >

> > > When facts are presented and considered, opinions can change.

> > >

> > > According to Hur ji, he removed Bob ji from this forum many times. He

moderated Bob ji. He started a poll asking member's opinion on what to do with

Bob Ji.

> > >

> > > I thought Bob ji was a pretty good members. However, once I had few

personal interactions with him and read more of his interactions with others, my

opinion changed and I started seeing him as deranged member who is killing the

possibility meaningful discussion with his excessive and unwarranted insults and

abuses.

> > >

> > > > It is his list, not yours. Accept what you can't

> > > > change, no? No one should be insulted by words.

> > > > You are only showing that you haven't see that

> > > > yet.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > I am not sure, if I need to feel " personally hurt " in order to request a

teacher to stop a kid from peeing in the classroom or to expel him if he does it

repeatedly in spite of many warnings. Or, to ask my manager to do something

about a team-mate who keeps repeatedly farting in a group meeting. Or, to ask my

neighbor to stop his dog from shitting on the pubic walkway. I consider these

objectionable and " off limit " behaviors irrespective of whether I get personally

hurt by them or not.

> > >

> > > I also don't see any need to be beyond getting hurt physically or

verbally. So far, I am fine being an 'ordinary human'. Bob jee hasn't hurt me

much. But, it is not because I am beyond hurt. It is simply because so far, he

has been gross than skillful and efficient. There are some excellent people who

managed to hurt me far more without ever having to call me " Asshole " and such.

> > >

> > > Hope your " meeting " with Bob ji hasn't changed your view dramatically :-)

If it has, please let me know.

> > >

> > > with love,

> > > ac

> > >

> >

> > P: Arvind, it's very important to understand offense.

> > Who gets offended? Self-image, self importance does.

> > Those who react to hostile words in the same way

> > they do to hostile acts live in a verbal madhouse

> > where words do break bones.

> >

> > I haven't met Bob. What changed my view of him is

> > that he has changed. Before Bob posted like a

> > lunatic with a machine gun. Now he is surgeon. Well,

> > from time to time, he tries to amputate the wrong

> > leg, but, hey! Surgeon's errors kill more people than

> > serial killers. Bob and surgeons are necessary, or

> > so, Hur thinks. )

> >

>

> i don't think bob is necessary. he's just part of the picture. usually in the

history of open groups someone plays his role but at some point the candle burns

out and a new " bob-like " serial poster appears. in moderated lists if anyone

sticks their head out of the rye field for too long they're removed. i guess you

can call bob the pusher in the rye.

the pusher in of your eye?

February 14, 2010

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

>

> >

> > well actually i am Richie.

> >

> > but strangely it's not attractive to me.

> >

> > i don't know what it's supposed to signify.

> >

> > it doesn't make steak taste any better.

> >

> > i can still only eat one bite at a time.

> >

> > and all the cool movies are about not so rich people.

>

> Have you ever noticed how many movies are about people living in really big

houses?

>

> > can you imagine what it's like not caring if you win the lotto or not?

>

> No. Sounds like you've got no worries about the needs at the base of Maslow's

pyramid.

>

> > but then the alternative is just as unappealing.

>

> For sure.

>

> > it's better to be blase on these issues.

> >

> > now that does appeal!

>

> Actually, it's better to be Blassie on these issues, Classy Freddy Blassie.

>

> For one thing, you wouldn't have to be dealing with this shit anymore.

>

> For another thing, you could call people " pencil necked geeks, " which would

fun.

>

> And you could say at the point of death:

>

> " I had a great life, something you can't buy. You could spend all the money in

the world and not have as much fun as I had. It was a wonderful life. "

>

> Now, that's classy. And blassie.

>

> - Dan -

and..

it's bullshit.

..b b.b.

February 14, 2010

Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > larry was removed once and i don't remember exactly how many times

bob was removed but he came back. bob likes it here for some reason...

> > > > >

> > > > > This one might be quite simple, Hur Jee!

> > > > >

> > > > > Bob was removed from NDS.

> > > > >

> > > > > (NondualitySalon/?yguid=181049836

> > > > > Members: 1198)

> > > > >

> > > > > Bon was removed from GuruRatings.

> > > > >

> > > > > ( GuruRatings/

> > > > > Members: 1691 )

> > > > >

> > > > > And, as you say Bob was also removed from this list.

> > > > >

> > > > > These three are among very few (maybe, " only " other than Advaitin)

forums in nonduality area with so many (1000+) members.

> > > > >

> > > > > Out of these three, because of his 'past record', Bob is very unlikely

to be allowed to post freely on GuruRating or NDS. That leaves only this forum

where there are many members and where he is relatively free to pee and shit all

over as long he doesn't offend the moderator directly.

> > > > >

> > > > > With much respect,

> > > > > ac

> > > >

> > > > P: ac, give it up! Hur has spoken, He thinks

> > > > Bob is the most useful member in this list.

> > >

> > > When facts are presented and considered, opinions can change.

> > >

> > > According to Hur ji, he removed Bob ji from this forum many times. He

moderated Bob ji. He started a poll asking member's opinion on what to do with

Bob Ji.

> > >

> > > I thought Bob ji was a pretty good members. However, once I had few

personal interactions with him and read more of his interactions with others, my

opinion changed and I started seeing him as deranged member who is killing the

possibility meaningful discussion with his excessive and unwarranted insults and

abuses.

> > >

> > > > It is his list, not yours. Accept what you can't

> > > > change, no? No one should be insulted by words.

> > > > You are only showing that you haven't see that

> > > > yet.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > I am not sure, if I need to feel " personally hurt " in order to request a

teacher to stop a kid from peeing in the classroom or to expel him if he does it

repeatedly in spite of many warnings. Or, to ask my manager to do something

about a team-mate who keeps repeatedly farting in a group meeting. Or, to ask my

neighbor to stop his dog from shitting on the pubic walkway. I consider these

objectionable and " off limit " behaviors irrespective of whether I get personally

hurt by them or not.

> > >

> > > I also don't see any need to be beyond getting hurt physically or

verbally. So far, I am fine being an 'ordinary human'. Bob jee hasn't hurt me

much. But, it is not because I am beyond hurt. It is simply because so far, he

has been gross than skillful and efficient. There are some excellent people who

managed to hurt me far more without ever having to call me " Asshole " and such.

> > >

> > > Hope your " meeting " with Bob ji hasn't changed your view dramatically :-)

If it has, please let me know.

> > >

> > > with love,

> > > ac

> > >

> >

> > P: Arvind, it's very important to understand offense.

> > Who gets offended? Self-image, self importance does.

> > Those who react to hostile words in the same way

> > they do to hostile acts live in a verbal madhouse

> > where words do break bones.

> >

> > I haven't met Bob. What changed my view of him is

> > that he has changed. Before Bob posted like a

> > lunatic with a machine gun. Now he is surgeon. Well,

> > from time to time, he tries to amputate the wrong

> > leg, but, hey! Surgeon's errors kill more people than

> > serial killers. Bob and surgeons are necessary, or

> > so, Hur thinks. )

> >

>

> i don't think bob is necessary. he's just part of the picture. usually in the

history of open groups someone plays his role but at some point the candle burns

out and a new " bob-like " serial poster appears. in moderated lists if anyone

sticks their head out of the rye field for too long they're removed. i guess you

can call bob the pusher in the rye.

yeah and it pisses the rye drinkers off.

i push oats.

a far more necessary grain.

but it goes against the grain of the drinkers of the rye.

..b b.b.

February 14, 2010

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > larry was removed once and i don't remember exactly how many times

bob was removed but he came back. bob likes it here for some reason...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This one might be quite simple, Hur Jee!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bob was removed from NDS.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (NondualitySalon/?yguid=181049836

> > > > > > Members: 1198)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bon was removed from GuruRatings.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ( GuruRatings/

> > > > > > Members: 1691 )

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And, as you say Bob was also removed from this list.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > These three are among very few (maybe, " only " other than Advaitin)

forums in nonduality area with so many (1000+) members.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Out of these three, because of his 'past record', Bob is very

unlikely to be allowed to post freely on GuruRating or NDS. That leaves only

this forum where there are many members and where he is relatively free to pee

and shit all over as long he doesn't offend the moderator directly.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > With much respect,

> > > > > > ac

> > > > >

> > > > > P: ac, give it up! Hur has spoken, He thinks

> > > > > Bob is the most useful member in this list.

> > > >

> > > > When facts are presented and considered, opinions can change.

> > > >

> > > > According to Hur ji, he removed Bob ji from this forum many times. He

moderated Bob ji. He started a poll asking member's opinion on what to do with

Bob Ji.

> > > >

> > > > I thought Bob ji was a pretty good members. However, once I had few

personal interactions with him and read more of his interactions with others, my

opinion changed and I started seeing him as deranged member who is killing the

possibility meaningful discussion with his excessive and unwarranted insults and

abuses.

> > > >

> > > > > It is his list, not yours. Accept what you can't

> > > > > change, no? No one should be insulted by words.

> > > > > You are only showing that you haven't see that

> > > > > yet.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > I am not sure, if I need to feel " personally hurt " in order to request a

teacher to stop a kid from peeing in the classroom or to expel him if he does it

repeatedly in spite of many warnings. Or, to ask my manager to do something

about a team-mate who keeps repeatedly farting in a group meeting. Or, to ask my

neighbor to stop his dog from shitting on the pubic walkway. I consider these

objectionable and " off limit " behaviors irrespective of whether I get personally

hurt by them or not.

> > > >

> > > > I also don't see any need to be beyond getting hurt physically or

verbally. So far, I am fine being an 'ordinary human'. Bob jee hasn't hurt me

much. But, it is not because I am beyond hurt. It is simply because so far, he

has been gross than skillful and efficient. There are some excellent people who

managed to hurt me far more without ever having to call me " Asshole " and such.

> > > >

> > > > Hope your " meeting " with Bob ji hasn't changed your view dramatically

:-) If it has, please let me know.

> > > >

> > > > with love,

> > > > ac

> > > >

> > >

> > > P: Arvind, it's very important to understand offense.

> > > Who gets offended? Self-image, self importance does.

> > > Those who react to hostile words in the same way

> > > they do to hostile acts live in a verbal madhouse

> > > where words do break bones.

> > >

> > > I haven't met Bob. What changed my view of him is

> > > that he has changed. Before Bob posted like a

> > > lunatic with a machine gun. Now he is surgeon. Well,

> > > from time to time, he tries to amputate the wrong

> > > leg, but, hey! Surgeon's errors kill more people than

> > > serial killers. Bob and surgeons are necessary, or

> > > so, Hur thinks. )

> > >

> >

> > i don't think bob is necessary. he's just part of the picture. usually in

the history of open groups someone plays his role but at some point the candle

burns out and a new " bob-like " serial poster appears. in moderated lists if

anyone sticks their head out of the rye field for too long they're removed. i

guess you can call bob the pusher in the rye.

>

> the pusher in of your eye?

why oh rye is Bob such an issue?

i'm blushing boys.

sure i am.

i love it and you know it.

but golly..

you'd think it would soon be a saturated subject.

but never mind me.

i love reading about me.

maybe i'll learn something i don't know.

and that should actually be easy.

i don't know anything about myself.

just like everything else i don't know anything about.

permission to carry on is hereby granted.

..b b.b.

February 15, 2010

Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > well actually i am Richie.

> > >

> > > but strangely it's not attractive to me.

> > >

> > > i don't know what it's supposed to signify.

> > >

> > > it doesn't make steak taste any better.

> > >

> > > i can still only eat one bite at a time.

> > >

> > > and all the cool movies are about not so rich people.

> >

> > Have you ever noticed how many movies are about people living in really big

houses?

> >

> > > can you imagine what it's like not caring if you win the lotto or not?

> >

> > No. Sounds like you've got no worries about the needs at the base of

Maslow's pyramid.

> >

> > > but then the alternative is just as unappealing.

> >

> > For sure.

> >

> > > it's better to be blase on these issues.

> > >

> > > now that does appeal!

> >

> > Actually, it's better to be Blassie on these issues, Classy Freddy Blassie.

> >

> > For one thing, you wouldn't have to be dealing with this shit anymore.

> >

> > For another thing, you could call people " pencil necked geeks, " which would

fun.

> >

> > And you could say at the point of death:

> >

> > " I had a great life, something you can't buy. You could spend all the money

in the world and not have as much fun as I had. It was a wonderful life. "

> >

> > Now, that's classy. And blassie.

> >

> > - Dan -

>

> and..

>

> it's bullshit.

>

> .b b.b.

most soitenly.

- .d d.d.

February 16, 2010

[...]

>

> I haven't met Bob. What changed my view of him is

> that he has changed. Before Bob posted like a

> lunatic with a machine gun. Now he is surgeon.

Or, perhaps, a butcher who thinks of himself as surgeon, just because he has a

knife.

Armed with a butcher knife such a naive " surgeon " insists on operating

everything from arms and legs to eyes and brain without ever stopping to ask

for consent or permission and without even knowing if the operation is even

needed.

> Well,

> from time to time, he tries to amputate the wrong

> leg, but, hey! Surgeon's errors kill more people than

> serial killers. Bob and surgeons are necessary, or

> so, Hur thinks. )

>

February 16, 2010

>

> LOL!

>

> ac is a boy on a mission.

>

> a little hysterical yes..

>

> but a boy on a mission from God nonetheless.

>

> too bad Bob is God.

A God... 'dependent' on Hur's mercy!

February 16, 2010

Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote:

>

> [...]

>

> >

> > I haven't met Bob. What changed my view of him is

> > that he has changed. Before Bob posted like a

> > lunatic with a machine gun. Now he is surgeon.

>

> Or, perhaps, a butcher who thinks of himself as surgeon, just because he has a

knife.

>

> Armed with a butcher knife such a naive " surgeon " insists on operating

everything from arms and legs to eyes and brain without ever stopping to ask

for consent or permission and without even knowing if the operation is even

needed.

ROFLMAO!

acdc you're a little mental case!

that's why i love you.

you make my days lately.

LOL! LOL! LOL!

..b b.b.

> > Well,

> > from time to time, he tries to amputate the wrong

> > leg, but, hey! Surgeon's errors kill more people than

> > serial killers. Bob and surgeons are necessary, or

> > so, Hur thinks. )

> >

>

February 16, 2010

Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote:

>

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > ac is a boy on a mission.

> >

> > a little hysterical yes..

> >

> > but a boy on a mission from God nonetheless.

> >

> > too bad Bob is God.

>

> A God... 'dependent' on Hur's mercy!

i'm a fair God.

i allow Hur to have mercy.

and for all to enjoy a good har-de-har har too.

but i just might start...

throwing down lightning and thunderbolts on you.

just for the hell of it because i really do love you.

i make you and obviously break you.

but not like how you make my days and break me up.

see ac...i'm not psychoneurotic like you youngster.

God's been around a long time and has learned how to handle himself.

you too need to learn how to get a grip.

you'll go bang out psychotic at the rate you're going.

i wouldn't like to see you taken away.

you deliver to many laughs for me to wish you gone.

so take care and calm down child.

love and blessings unto you..

and all the other shit a good God gives freely..

i remain:

..b b.b.

now i allow myself a good...

har har har har har-de-har-har!

February 16, 2010

Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > LOL!

> > >

> > > ac is a boy on a mission.

> > >

> > > a little hysterical yes..

> > >

> > > but a boy on a mission from God nonetheless.

> > >

> > > too bad Bob is God.

> >

> > A God... 'dependent' on Hur's mercy!

>

> i'm a fair God.

>

> i allow Hur to have mercy.

>

> and for all to enjoy a good har-de-har har too.

>

> but i just might start...

>

> throwing down lightning and thunderbolts on you.

>

> just for the hell of it because i really do love you.

>

> i make you and obviously break you.

>

> but not like how you make my days and break me up.

>

> see ac...i'm not psychoneurotic like you youngster.

>

> God's been around a long time and has learned how to handle himself.

>

> you too need to learn how to get a grip.

>

> you'll go bang out psychotic at the rate you're going.

>

> i wouldn't like to see you taken away.

>

> you deliver to many laughs for me to wish you gone.

>

> so take care and calm down child.

>

> love and blessings unto you..

>

> and all the other shit a good God gives freely..

>

> i remain:

>

> .b b.b.

>

> now i allow myself a good...

>

> har har har har har-de-har-har!

>

this is exactly when problems start to happen. when a program begins to speak

for a super program in the system...then there's war within that organism

especially when the imaginary entity fantasies to have a special relationship

*with the other super entity*, imagines himself to be chosen, on a

mission...then watch out.

ps. a typical nondual response to this post would be: " ...with the other super

entity " who is non-other. all regular sentences are open to this sort of nondual

hits and that's why it makes it so easy.

February 16, 2010

Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > LOL!

> > > >

> > > > ac is a boy on a mission.

> > > >

> > > > a little hysterical yes..

> > > >

> > > > but a boy on a mission from God nonetheless.

> > > >

> > > > too bad Bob is God.

> > >

> > > A God... 'dependent' on Hur's mercy!

> >

> > i'm a fair God.

> >

> > i allow Hur to have mercy.

> >

> > and for all to enjoy a good har-de-har har too.

> >

> > but i just might start...

> >

> > throwing down lightning and thunderbolts on you.

> >

> > just for the hell of it because i really do love you.

> >

> > i make you and obviously break you.

> >

> > but not like how you make my days and break me up.

> >

> > see ac...i'm not psychoneurotic like you youngster.

> >

> > God's been around a long time and has learned how to handle himself.

> >

> > you too need to learn how to get a grip.

> >

> > you'll go bang out psychotic at the rate you're going.

> >

> > i wouldn't like to see you taken away.

> >

> > you deliver to many laughs for me to wish you gone.

> >

> > so take care and calm down child.

> >

> > love and blessings unto you..

> >

> > and all the other shit a good God gives freely..

> >

> > i remain:

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > now i allow myself a good...

> >

> > har har har har har-de-har-har!

> >

>

> this is exactly when problems start to happen. when a program begins to speak

for a super program in the system...then there's war within that organism

especially when the imaginary entity fantasies to have a special relationship

*with the other super entity*, imagines himself to be chosen, on a

mission...then watch out.

>

> ps. a typical nondual response to this post would be: " ...with the other super

entity " who is non-other. all regular sentences are open to this sort of nondual

hits and that's why it makes it so easy.

ok.

the only mission i ever visited..

was located in an Arizona/Mexico border desert town.

the only mission i've ever been on..

has been a mission of no mission.

the none other is none other then no other at all.

no self-no other.

maybe it's a fantasy but it's strikes as funny as hell.

no one.

and yet i've never known who it's striking as such.

no way no how no who and no why.

..b b.b.

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