Does neo-advaita work like a disease?

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> Lene

> Nisargadatta

> Sunday, January 24, 2010 8:09 AM

> Re: Does neo-advaita work like a disease?

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> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

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> > > Consicousness, the known, things, bodies are empty shells. They are

> > > filled

> > > with IS-NESS.

> > > -oge-

> >

> > If you say so goe

> > Can there be iss-ness without the empty shells?

> > -nlen

> >

> > This is a very interesting question. But the fact is that the question -

> > that any " serious " :>) investigator have faced one time or the other - is

> > conceptual and can never be in other way because what IS is is-ness plus

> > the

> > empty shells.

>

> Dear Horche

>

> I don't know whether we are in agreement or dis-ditto so let

> me just convey what I have to say. For ex I am not sure what

> you mean by 1 plus 1. So.

>

> I don't want to split hairs yet must say that there is not 1

> plus 1. Only one which is none. Not this AND this (re. That)

>

> This morning it was all clear. Have not slept properly for 3

> nights and I am not quite myself (fig of speech

>

> There was a sensation of being - just being - not something -

> only this iss-ness which you call it and which I call nothing

> or presence or empty-of-content or formless and there was the

> shell/form, drinking coffee and smoking. The only missing was

> thought. It was very weird.

>

> And it was like a non-movement was a-watching the movement of

> the shell/form - like there were two in the game.

>

> Then it came clear that the moving and the non-moving was all

> the same; where one was, the other was; and they were not two

> - they were one an the same.

>

> The everchanging (form, shell) equals, IS, the neverchanging.

>

> Because the everchanging is transient it can not be told from

> the neverchanging - and so - as a matter of fact - nothing is

> moving! There is movement all right - but nothing moving.

>

> Try to separate them - just give it a try

>

> I AM - the [n]everchanging.

>

> The answer to my question: can there be iss-ness without the

> empty shell? Is no.

>

> So what? So - nothing!

>

> Here is to appearences! Let us keep 'em up

>

> I have read the rest of your message. No comment.

>

> Love

> Lene

>

>

>

> I agree. They are non-separable. " They are " and it just is.

> -geo-

 

 

 

Ah! Finally a meeting. Now I will give it a rest, take a break

and a walk on the lake (who said one could not walk on water?)

and feed some birds and tonight I will take the usual doze-off

medicine and get some sleep for there is no need to experiment

with life - being it, one form or another - is just fine.

 

Thank you, Geo, all the best

 

Love

Lene

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Lene

Nisargadatta

Sunday, January 24, 2010 8:09 AM

Re: Does neo-advaita work like a disease?

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> > Consicousness, the known, things, bodies are empty shells. They are

> > filled

> > with IS-NESS.

> > -oge-

>

> If you say so goe

> Can there be iss-ness without the empty shells?

> -nlen

>

> This is a very interesting question. But the fact is that the question -

> that any " serious " :>) investigator have faced one time or the other - is

> conceptual and can never be in other way because what IS is is-ness plus

> the

> empty shells.

 

Dear Horche

 

I don't know whether we are in agreement or dis-ditto so let

me just convey what I have to say. For ex I am not sure what

you mean by 1 plus 1. So.

 

I don't want to split hairs yet must say that there is not 1

plus 1. Only one which is none. Not this AND this (re. That)

 

This morning it was all clear. Have not slept properly for 3

nights and I am not quite myself (fig of speech

 

There was a sensation of being - just being - not something -

only this iss-ness which you call it and which I call nothing

or presence or empty-of-content or formless and there was the

shell/form, drinking coffee and smoking. The only missing was

thought. It was very weird.

 

And it was like a non-movement was a-watching the movement of

the shell/form - like there were two in the game.

 

Then it came clear that the moving and the non-moving was all

the same; where one was, the other was; and they were not two

- they were one an the same.

 

The everchanging (form, shell) equals, IS, the neverchanging.

 

Because the everchanging is transient it can not be told from

the neverchanging - and so - as a matter of fact - nothing is

moving! There is movement all right - but nothing moving.

 

Try to separate them - just give it a try

 

I AM - the [n]everchanging.

 

The answer to my question: can there be iss-ness without the

empty shell? Is no.

 

So what? So - nothing!

 

Here is to appearences! Let us keep 'em up

 

I have read the rest of your message. No comment.

 

Love

Lene

 

 

 

I agree. They are non-separable. " They are " and it just is.

-geo-

 

 

> An is-ness without its empty patterns, or is-ness without the

> world is a non-fact. So the next question is: if that is an impossible

> case

> how can one realize that there is such is-ness at all? I don't know how to

> answer that, but what I can say is: in order to the waves to

> be...obviously

> the sea must be there. This is NOT some conclusion or concept or theory.

> It

> is THE most obvious fact. For anything to be, first there must be a

> " dimensionless space " for it to be.

> -ggo-

>

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I don't know whether we are in agreement or dis-ditto so let

me just convey what I have to say. For ex I am not sure what

you mean by 1 plus 1. So.

 

I don't want to split hairs yet must say that there is not 1

plus 1. Only one which is none. Not this AND this (re. That)

-lenine-

 

Analogous to electrons and substance. The same electrons and an infinitude

of different substances.

Substances may transform, react, oxidate, burn, freeze, liquidify,

gaseify..... and the electrons remain the same.

-ego-

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> I agree. They are non-separable. " They are " and it just is.

> -geo-

 

Ah! Finally a meeting. Now I will give it a rest, take a break

and a walk on the lake (who said one could not walk on water?)

and feed some birds and tonight I will take the usual doze-off

medicine and get some sleep for there is no need to experiment

with life - being it, one form or another - is just fine.

 

Thank you, Geo, all the best

 

Love

Lene

 

Sounds as if you where going somewhere " else " !

LOL

-egg-

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

>

>

> > I agree. They are non-separable. " They are " and it just is.

> > -geo-

>

> Ah! Finally a meeting. Now I will give it a rest, take a break

> and a walk on the lake (who said one could not walk on water?)

> and feed some birds and tonight I will take the usual doze-off

> medicine and get some sleep for there is no need to experiment

> with life - being it, one form or another - is just fine.

>

> Thank you, Geo, all the best

>

> Love

> Lene

>

> Sounds as if you where going somewhere " else " !

> LOL

> -egg-

 

 

 

geg

 

i just like to finish a job before I go do something

" else " .

 

and thanks; i slept well last night; back on dr pill

 

-leena