Does neo-advaita work like a disease?

January 22, 2010

Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > You can play with the " there is " - " there is not " poles endlessly. If you

consider the waves as the ocean itself you will say all is the same. If you

consider that each wave is unique in shape, color, power.. you will say they are

different.... ad ininitum, ad nauseum, like a pendulum. And when this game is

played unconsciously, unknowingly, it is just plane ignorance.

> > >

> > > -egg-

> >

> > ignorance is just a label assigned to a thought.

> >

> > wisdom is a different label.

> >

> > the play of " ignorance " and " wisdom " is the same as the play of " there is "

" there is not. "

> >

> > there is just the playing of things.

> >

> > awareness/things

> >

> > non-divided

> >

> > no position that awareness ever took

> >

> > as a someone who could do something to something else

> >

> > although all kinds of behaviors occur

> >

> > and thoughts occur

> >

> > as if a separation exists ...

> >

> > the behaviors and thoughts don't make any separation, doer, believer,

producer, etc., exist (or not exist).

> >

> > - D -

>

> and you KNOW all that bullshit to be true huh?

>

> LOL!

>

> dabbo you never give up.

>

> i love it!

>

> you keep them smiles rollin' right along.

>

> thanx kid.

>

> .b b.b.

" i know nothing. "

That's my story, and I'm not sticking to it.

- d -

January 22, 2010

Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > poesy.

> > > -lene-

> > >

> > > The art of poetry that remains, from old or not, is the one that points to

the un-pointable. If not it just excites random emotions like TV, cinema, etc...

> > > There are lots of buyers for it - sure!

> > > -gog-

> >

> > There are just unfolding roles and drama-dreams.

> >

> > Not " captivated " by the unfolding drama:

> >

> > Just being as one is.

> >

> > - D -

>

> well you certainly seem to be:

>

> " captivated by the unfolding drama. " .

>

> i mean you couldn't be more so dabbo.

>

> a true drama queen that never tires of performing a tired role.

>

> you step right up on that podium on your stage..

>

> and repeat again and again..

>

> the same old lines and with the same ham like delivery.

>

> are you waiting for Cecile B. Demille?

>

> LOL!

>

> .b b.b.

that captivating drama ...

here it comes again ...

and again ...

- D -

January 22, 2010

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

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> >

> > First pole: no division.

> > ...and so on...so on...on...

> > -geo-

>

> Yes, all words, concepts, and experiences involve polarities.

>

> The play of polarity is a unicity.

>

> Unicity/polarity ...

>

> Smiles,

>

> Dan

yes of course dabbo.

we all believe you dabbo.

all is swell dabbo.

sure sure little fellow.

feels good huh?

:-)

..b b.b.

January 22, 2010

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > poesy.

> > > > -lene-

> > > >

> > > > The art of poetry that remains, from old or not, is the one that points

to the un-pointable. If not it just excites random emotions like TV, cinema,

etc...

> > > > There are lots of buyers for it - sure!

> > > > -gog-

> > >

> > > There are just unfolding roles and drama-dreams.

> > >

> > > Not " captivated " by the unfolding drama:

> > >

> > > Just being as one is.

> > >

> > > - D -

> >

> > well you certainly seem to be:

> >

> > " captivated by the unfolding drama. " .

> >

> > i mean you couldn't be more so dabbo.

> >

> > a true drama queen that never tires of performing a tired role.

> >

> > you step right up on that podium on your stage..

> >

> > and repeat again and again..

> >

> > the same old lines and with the same ham like delivery.

> >

> > are you waiting for Cecile B. Demille?

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> that captivating drama ...

>

> here it comes again ...

>

> and again ...

>

> - D -

right you are dabbo.

and you are the performer.

waiting to be discovered.

you ain't got the talent though.

however you do make a nice little community theater ham.

i bet Andy and Barney..

and the whole Mayberry gang..

just love your little act.

say!

maybe there'll be some scouts..

from the bib gurg of Raliegh in the club house sometime?

you just never know.

it's always somethin' aint it dabbo.

:-)

..b b.b.

January 22, 2010

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > You can play with the " there is " - " there is not " poles endlessly. If

you consider the waves as the ocean itself you will say all is the same. If you

consider that each wave is unique in shape, color, power.. you will say they are

different.... ad ininitum, ad nauseum, like a pendulum. And when this game is

played unconsciously, unknowingly, it is just plane ignorance.

> > > >

> > > > -egg-

> > >

> > > ignorance is just a label assigned to a thought.

> > >

> > > wisdom is a different label.

> > >

> > > the play of " ignorance " and " wisdom " is the same as the play of " there is "

" there is not. "

> > >

> > > there is just the playing of things.

> > >

> > > awareness/things

> > >

> > > non-divided

> > >

> > > no position that awareness ever took

> > >

> > > as a someone who could do something to something else

> > >

> > > although all kinds of behaviors occur

> > >

> > > and thoughts occur

> > >

> > > as if a separation exists ...

> > >

> > > the behaviors and thoughts don't make any separation, doer, believer,

producer, etc., exist (or not exist).

> > >

> > > - D -

> >

> > and you KNOW all that bullshit to be true huh?

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > dabbo you never give up.

> >

> > i love it!

> >

> > you keep them smiles rollin' right along.

> >

> > thanx kid.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> " i know nothing. "

>

> That's my story, and I'm not sticking to it.

>

> - d -

i know.

you love that phony self-depreciation act.

you do a fair job at it too.

no award winner though.

too pusillanimous in presentation actually.

..b b.b..

January 23, 2010

Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> and you KNOW all that bullshit to be true huh?

>

> LOL!

>

> dabbo you never give up.

I 'know' all that bullshit to be true, too.

Except I give up ;-).

January 23, 2010

Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33 wrote:

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> ahhh....so there is only one world.....

> >

> > Lene is having a concept about this " one world " ...

>

> Nope. Thought is the concept about one world. There

> is no Lene - and so Lene cannot have concepts aboyt

> anything, heh heh

>

> What is Lene? The body - the psyche - the me - what

> is Lene? Lene is a word, a name - and thought it is

> that invented it.

>

> > and then are following many bubbling words...

>

> Yepsy. Many bubbling words coming from this world of

> thought and that world of thought, all possible wsot.

>

> Enough.

>

> Now tell me about one being.

>

> No - not the concept - the thing as such - the being

> as such. What is being?

>

> Lol

>

> -Lene

>

> i'm not of this your imaginary world....

And yet. You may be. Who knows?

-Lene

January 23, 2010

Dear Ego,

What I heard you say was that one is an empty shell.

I say one is images.

Is the same.

Thanks.

-Lene

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> > There can not be peace and talking of peace at once

> > -lene-

> >

> > So talking is outside the field of the ONE? Where is that....in some

> > other?

> > -geo-

>

> No. There is only one world, one reality, and it consists

> of many fragments.

> -lene-

>

> To think the that universe is a sum of fragments is not correct. That is not

> the case at all. Each and any fragment is an empty shell by itself -as a

> fragment. Each fragment is just a pattern of the one.

> -egg-

>

> - One fragment is thought. The weird thing about thought is

> that not only is it a fragment of life, it is the creator

> of fragmentation, of dualism.

> -lene-

>

> A thought is just another empty fragment of the only one that is.

> -geo-

>

> Thought is the labelling, description, naming wording and

> so on.

> Thought is not that which is labelled, only the labelling.

> This is also the case when its a thought that is labelled.

> -lene-

>

> And as such it is also a pattern of the one/here. Could not be somewhere

> else.

> -ego-

>

> Because the something worded is not the something itself,

> there's a gap between those: the thing and the word about

> the thing.

>

> Where there is a gap-between, there is conflict; there is

> two, not one, this side and that side: the thing, and the

> thought/word about the thing and voila! There is no peace.

> -lene-

>

> Not necessarily at all. See thoughts as a pointer. So there is seeing of the

> fact that there is a pointer and a pointed, just as there is man/women,

> dogs/rocks. that is not duality just diversity. And for some there is that

> which can not be named at all....so what? Obviously the pointer can not be

> pointed.

> -geo-

>

> If there is to BE ONE that is to be without fragmentation

> - there cannot be words OR the words cannot be about some

> thing - only be in their own right (a figure of speech

> -lene-

>

> The ONE patterns into worlds, into things, into words also. No part is taken

> away or added. The empty substratum is unmoved, unchanged, unborn.

> -ggo-

>

> That's why I like nonsensical babbling - because it is so

> full of not pointing to anything -- like a painting which

> does not look like - anything - recognizable - Babbling's

> poesy.

> -lene-

>

> No. Words, thinking, can be used as very precise chirurgical tools, they are

> amazing at that. Babbling is adding more confusion, is in fact laziness of a

> disordered mind. It is boring. Why would anybody need to listen to words

> that reflect the confusion that already is all around? Why would anyone need

> to observe random paintings that reflect ones conditioning - that is all

> around any way. Just look around, its all there.

> -ego-

>

> -Lene

>

January 23, 2010

Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > and you KNOW all that bullshit to be true huh?

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > dabbo you never give up.

>

> I 'know' all that bullshit to be true, too.

>

> Except I give up ;-).

sure you don't timmy tot.

LOL!

..b b.b.

January 23, 2010

Consicousness, the known, things, bodies are empty shells. They are filled

with IS-NESS.

-oge-

Dear Ego,

What I heard you say was that one is an empty shell.

I say one is images.

Is the same.

Thanks.

-Lene

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> > There can not be peace and talking of peace at once

> > -lene-

> >

> > So talking is outside the field of the ONE? Where is that....in some

> > other?

> > -geo-

>

> No. There is only one world, one reality, and it consists

> of many fragments.

> -lene-

>

> To think the that universe is a sum of fragments is not correct. That is

> not

> the case at all. Each and any fragment is an empty shell by itself -as a

> fragment. Each fragment is just a pattern of the one.

> -egg-

>

> - One fragment is thought. The weird thing about thought is

> that not only is it a fragment of life, it is the creator

> of fragmentation, of dualism.

> -lene-

>

> A thought is just another empty fragment of the only one that is.

> -geo-

>

> Thought is the labelling, description, naming wording and

> so on.

> Thought is not that which is labelled, only the labelling.

> This is also the case when its a thought that is labelled.

> -lene-

>

> And as such it is also a pattern of the one/here. Could not be somewhere

> else.

> -ego-

>

> Because the something worded is not the something itself,

> there's a gap between those: the thing and the word about

> the thing.

>

> Where there is a gap-between, there is conflict; there is

> two, not one, this side and that side: the thing, and the

> thought/word about the thing and voila! There is no peace.

> -lene-

>

> Not necessarily at all. See thoughts as a pointer. So there is seeing of

> the

> fact that there is a pointer and a pointed, just as there is man/women,

> dogs/rocks. that is not duality just diversity. And for some there is that

> which can not be named at all....so what? Obviously the pointer can not be

> pointed.

> -geo-

>

> If there is to BE ONE that is to be without fragmentation

> - there cannot be words OR the words cannot be about some

> thing - only be in their own right (a figure of speech

> -lene-

>

> The ONE patterns into worlds, into things, into words also. No part is

> taken

> away or added. The empty substratum is unmoved, unchanged, unborn.

> -ggo-

>

> That's why I like nonsensical babbling - because it is so

> full of not pointing to anything -- like a painting which

> does not look like - anything - recognizable - Babbling's

> poesy.

> -lene-

>

> No. Words, thinking, can be used as very precise chirurgical tools, they

> are

> amazing at that. Babbling is adding more confusion, is in fact laziness of

> a

> disordered mind. It is boring. Why would anybody need to listen to words

> that reflect the confusion that already is all around? Why would anyone

> need

> to observe random paintings that reflect ones conditioning - that is all

> around any way. Just look around, its all there.

> -ego-

>

> -Lene

>

January 23, 2010

uttered bullshit!

..b b.b.

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>