Guest guest Report post Posted January 17, 2010 - Lene Nisargadatta Sunday, January 17, 2010 4:37 PM Re: The evening post Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > P: Lene, can we go into these terms and see Absolutely Geo - but not tonight - tonight I am going nowhere. See ya -Lene geo: hu...hu....this is geo....nowhere already. That was pete. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 18, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > > All that has a name or label to it is a thing, belongs to the > > > world of things, stuff. God, Awareness, Ether, Energy, Devil, > > > chair, table, house, body, eyes - belongs to the world which > > > is an illusion. That is one. One is the illusion. > > > > > > It is amazing to see how one keeps dividing one into two and > > > yet maintain there is but one and that one is none and so on. > > > > > > The wisest people say there are two, this and that - the here > > > and the there, the latter called *beyond the here* by some. K > > > talked about something *beyond the known* -- he called it the > > > bliss and the silence and the joy and the beauty - and all of > > > that is beyond the image, beyond belief, beyond everything in > > > other words. > > > > > > But beyond the known there is absolutely nothing! > > > > > > That is why one is one and not two. > > > > > > One is the known - and the known is an illusion. > > > > > > Phewing and sighing and giving up and giving in and throwing in > > > the towelly yours > > > > > > -Lene > > > > Yes. > > > > So, being this nothing - there never was any K. talking about it, or Niz., or you or me ... > > > > nor even this nothing ... > > > > What " nothing " ? > > > > > > - D - > > > > Exactly. > > " Nothing " does not get to have its own presence, as a something ;-). Yes. The " nothing " you can know something about, is not what this is. Any word points to something beyond the word. Thus, we can have a dictionary. And thus, we can teach a child to speak by saying " ball, " and then rolling a ball. But this nothing doesn't and can't point to something beyond or outside itself. Therefore, it can't be represented by any word or idea. Including " nothing. " - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 18, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > > > > All that has a name or label to it is a thing, belongs to the > > > > world of things, stuff. God, Awareness, Ether, Energy, Devil, > > > > chair, table, house, body, eyes - belongs to the world which > > > > is an illusion. That is one. One is the illusion. > > > > > > > > It is amazing to see how one keeps dividing one into two and > > > > yet maintain there is but one and that one is none and so on. > > > > > > > > The wisest people say there are two, this and that - the here > > > > and the there, the latter called *beyond the here* by some. K > > > > talked about something *beyond the known* -- he called it the > > > > bliss and the silence and the joy and the beauty - and all of > > > > that is beyond the image, beyond belief, beyond everything in > > > > other words. > > > > > > > > But beyond the known there is absolutely nothing! > > > > > > > > That is why one is one and not two. > > > > > > > > One is the known - and the known is an illusion. > > > > > > > > Phewing and sighing and giving up and giving in and throwing in > > > > the towelly yours > > > > > > > > -Lene > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > So, being this nothing - there never was any K. talking about it, or Niz., or you or me ... > > > > > > nor even this nothing ... > > > > > > What " nothing " ? > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > Exactly. > > > > " Nothing " does not get to have its own presence, as a something ;-). > > Yes. > > The " nothing " you can know something about, is not what this is. > > Any word points to something beyond the word. > > Thus, we can have a dictionary. And thus, we can teach a child to speak by saying " ball, " and then rolling a ball. > > But this nothing doesn't and can't point to something beyond or outside itself. > > Therefore, it can't be represented by any word or idea. > > Including " nothing. " > > - D - thus is the thus of the wuss-thuses. and thus they donate such bullshit. how was the honeymoon? :-) ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 18, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > > > > All that has a name or label to it is a thing, belongs to the > > > > world of things, stuff. God, Awareness, Ether, Energy, Devil, > > > > chair, table, house, body, eyes - belongs to the world which > > > > is an illusion. That is one. One is the illusion. > > > > > > > > It is amazing to see how one keeps dividing one into two and > > > > yet maintain there is but one and that one is none and so on. > > > > > > > > The wisest people say there are two, this and that - the here > > > > and the there, the latter called *beyond the here* by some. K > > > > talked about something *beyond the known* -- he called it the > > > > bliss and the silence and the joy and the beauty - and all of > > > > that is beyond the image, beyond belief, beyond everything in > > > > other words. > > > > > > > > But beyond the known there is absolutely nothing! > > > > > > > > That is why one is one and not two. > > > > > > > > One is the known - and the known is an illusion. > > > > > > > > Phewing and sighing and giving up and giving in and throwing in > > > > the towelly yours > > > > > > > > -Lene > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > So, being this nothing - there never was any K. talking about it, or Niz., or you or me ... > > > > > > nor even this nothing ... > > > > > > What " nothing " ? > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > Exactly. > > > > " Nothing " does not get to have its own presence, as a something ;-). > > Yes. > > The " nothing " you can know something about, is not what this is. > > Any word points to something beyond the word. > > Thus, we can have a dictionary. And thus, we can teach a child to speak by saying " ball, " and then rolling a ball. > > But this nothing doesn't and can't point to something beyond or outside itself. > > Therefore, it can't be represented by any word or idea. > > Including " nothing. " > > - D - > Indeed... What's imaginarily beyond/outside this 'nothing' is the realm of somethings. Which was never actually beyond/outside it at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 18, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > All that has a name or label to it is a thing, belongs to the > > > > > world of things, stuff. God, Awareness, Ether, Energy, Devil, > > > > > chair, table, house, body, eyes - belongs to the world which > > > > > is an illusion. That is one. One is the illusion. > > > > > > > > > > It is amazing to see how one keeps dividing one into two and > > > > > yet maintain there is but one and that one is none and so on. > > > > > > > > > > The wisest people say there are two, this and that - the here > > > > > and the there, the latter called *beyond the here* by some. K > > > > > talked about something *beyond the known* -- he called it the > > > > > bliss and the silence and the joy and the beauty - and all of > > > > > that is beyond the image, beyond belief, beyond everything in > > > > > other words. > > > > > > > > > > But beyond the known there is absolutely nothing! > > > > > > > > > > That is why one is one and not two. > > > > > > > > > > One is the known - and the known is an illusion. > > > > > > > > > > Phewing and sighing and giving up and giving in and throwing in > > > > > the towelly yours > > > > > > > > > > -Lene > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > So, being this nothing - there never was any K. talking about it, or Niz., or you or me ... > > > > > > > > nor even this nothing ... > > > > > > > > What " nothing " ? > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > Exactly. > > > > > > " Nothing " does not get to have its own presence, as a something ;-). > > > > Yes. > > > > The " nothing " you can know something about, is not what this is. > > > > Any word points to something beyond the word. > > > > Thus, we can have a dictionary. And thus, we can teach a child to speak by saying " ball, " and then rolling a ball. > > > > But this nothing doesn't and can't point to something beyond or outside itself. > > > > Therefore, it can't be represented by any word or idea. > > > > Including " nothing. " > > > > - D - > > > > Indeed... > > What's imaginarily beyond/outside this 'nothing' is the realm of somethings. > > Which was never actually beyond/outside it at all. and it's all inside of you..NOW. Wow! LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 18, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > All that has a name or label to it is a thing, belongs to the > > > > > > world of things, stuff. God, Awareness, Ether, Energy, Devil, > > > > > > chair, table, house, body, eyes - belongs to the world which > > > > > > is an illusion. That is one. One is the illusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is amazing to see how one keeps dividing one into two and > > > > > > yet maintain there is but one and that one is none and so on. > > > > > > > > > > > > The wisest people say there are two, this and that - the here > > > > > > and the there, the latter called *beyond the here* by some. K > > > > > > talked about something *beyond the known* -- he called it the > > > > > > bliss and the silence and the joy and the beauty - and all of > > > > > > that is beyond the image, beyond belief, beyond everything in > > > > > > other words. > > > > > > > > > > > > But beyond the known there is absolutely nothing! > > > > > > > > > > > > That is why one is one and not two. > > > > > > > > > > > > One is the known - and the known is an illusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > Phewing and sighing and giving up and giving in and throwing in > > > > > > the towelly yours > > > > > > > > > > > > -Lene > > > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > > > So, being this nothing - there never was any K. talking about it, or Niz., or you or me ... > > > > > > > > > > nor even this nothing ... > > > > > > > > > > What " nothing " ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exactly. > > > > > > > > " Nothing " does not get to have its own presence, as a something ;-). > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > The " nothing " you can know something about, is not what this is. > > > > > > Any word points to something beyond the word. > > > > > > Thus, we can have a dictionary. And thus, we can teach a child to speak by saying " ball, " and then rolling a ball. > > > > > > But this nothing doesn't and can't point to something beyond or outside itself. > > > > > > Therefore, it can't be represented by any word or idea. > > > > > > Including " nothing. " > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > Indeed... > > > > What's imaginarily beyond/outside this 'nothing' is the realm of somethings. > > > > Which was never actually beyond/outside it at all. > > > and it's all inside of you..NOW. > > Wow! > > LOL! > > .b b.b. > Hey dude, who ever said the truth would be a thrill ride? It is what it is. If you aren't impressed enough to even discuss it, there are lists about headphones, race cars, stamp collecting, decorating teddy bears with seashells, and all that kinda stuff. Whatever ya do, have fun ;-). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 18, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All that has a name or label to it is a thing, belongs to the > > > > > > > world of things, stuff. God, Awareness, Ether, Energy, Devil, > > > > > > > chair, table, house, body, eyes - belongs to the world which > > > > > > > is an illusion. That is one. One is the illusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is amazing to see how one keeps dividing one into two and > > > > > > > yet maintain there is but one and that one is none and so on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The wisest people say there are two, this and that - the here > > > > > > > and the there, the latter called *beyond the here* by some. K > > > > > > > talked about something *beyond the known* -- he called it the > > > > > > > bliss and the silence and the joy and the beauty - and all of > > > > > > > that is beyond the image, beyond belief, beyond everything in > > > > > > > other words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But beyond the known there is absolutely nothing! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is why one is one and not two. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One is the known - and the known is an illusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Phewing and sighing and giving up and giving in and throwing in > > > > > > > the towelly yours > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Lene > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > So, being this nothing - there never was any K. talking about it, or Niz., or you or me ... > > > > > > > > > > > > nor even this nothing ... > > > > > > > > > > > > What " nothing " ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exactly. > > > > > > > > > > " Nothing " does not get to have its own presence, as a something ;-). > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > The " nothing " you can know something about, is not what this is. > > > > > > > > Any word points to something beyond the word. > > > > > > > > Thus, we can have a dictionary. And thus, we can teach a child to speak by saying " ball, " and then rolling a ball. > > > > > > > > But this nothing doesn't and can't point to something beyond or outside itself. > > > > > > > > Therefore, it can't be represented by any word or idea. > > > > > > > > Including " nothing. " > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > Indeed... > > > > > > What's imaginarily beyond/outside this 'nothing' is the realm of somethings. > > > > > > Which was never actually beyond/outside it at all. > > > > > > and it's all inside of you..NOW. > > > > Wow! > > > > LOL! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Hey dude, who ever said the truth would be a thrill ride? > > It is what it is. > > If you aren't impressed enough to even discuss it, there are lists about headphones, race cars, stamp collecting, decorating teddy bears with seashells, and all that kinda stuff. > > Whatever ya do, have fun ;-). > P.S. I know the whole thing about 'no-self' scares the bejeebers out of ya, so much that the talk is constantly about self-and-other, " you, you, you " , etc. But then, anyone who would whine about drinking alcohol is definitely a little... shall we say... naah, I won't say ;-). Go ahead and keep on avoiding looking at what 'no-self' means, and carry on with the " you-me-you-me " fraidy-cat stuff... everyone knows it for what it is, and everyone's listening, sweetie ;-). Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 18, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All that has a name or label to it is a thing, belongs to the > > > > > > > world of things, stuff. God, Awareness, Ether, Energy, Devil, > > > > > > > chair, table, house, body, eyes - belongs to the world which > > > > > > > is an illusion. That is one. One is the illusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is amazing to see how one keeps dividing one into two and > > > > > > > yet maintain there is but one and that one is none and so on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The wisest people say there are two, this and that - the here > > > > > > > and the there, the latter called *beyond the here* by some. K > > > > > > > talked about something *beyond the known* -- he called it the > > > > > > > bliss and the silence and the joy and the beauty - and all of > > > > > > > that is beyond the image, beyond belief, beyond everything in > > > > > > > other words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But beyond the known there is absolutely nothing! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is why one is one and not two. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One is the known - and the known is an illusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Phewing and sighing and giving up and giving in and throwing in > > > > > > > the towelly yours > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Lene > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > So, being this nothing - there never was any K. talking about it, or Niz., or you or me ... > > > > > > > > > > > > nor even this nothing ... > > > > > > > > > > > > What " nothing " ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exactly. > > > > > > > > > > " Nothing " does not get to have its own presence, as a something ;-). > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > The " nothing " you can know something about, is not what this is. > > > > > > > > Any word points to something beyond the word. > > > > > > > > Thus, we can have a dictionary. And thus, we can teach a child to speak by saying " ball, " and then rolling a ball. > > > > > > > > But this nothing doesn't and can't point to something beyond or outside itself. > > > > > > > > Therefore, it can't be represented by any word or idea. > > > > > > > > Including " nothing. " > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > Indeed... > > > > > > What's imaginarily beyond/outside this 'nothing' is the realm of somethings. > > > > > > Which was never actually beyond/outside it at all. > > > > > > and it's all inside of you..NOW. > > > > Wow! > > > > LOL! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Hey dude, who ever said the truth would be a thrill ride? > > It is what it is. > > If you aren't impressed enough to even discuss it, there are lists about headphones, race cars, stamp collecting, decorating teddy bears with seashells, and all that kinda stuff. > > Whatever ya do, have fun ;-). LOL! now now timmy.. don't get so excited. uhm.. i don't think there is any such thing as truth. i don't believe there is any " one " to be " thrilled " nor " bored " . i don't really give a shit what you think i should do. are you impressed? well if you aren't there.. and there is no one to be impressed or thrilled. as far as the answer to " are you impressed would be: " i friggin' guess not huh? " well kid.. same deal here chubbawwubba. what is it? it isn't. simple huh? :-) ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 18, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All that has a name or label to it is a thing, belongs to the > > > > > > > > world of things, stuff. God, Awareness, Ether, Energy, Devil, > > > > > > > > chair, table, house, body, eyes - belongs to the world which > > > > > > > > is an illusion. That is one. One is the illusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is amazing to see how one keeps dividing one into two and > > > > > > > > yet maintain there is but one and that one is none and so on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The wisest people say there are two, this and that - the here > > > > > > > > and the there, the latter called *beyond the here* by some. K > > > > > > > > talked about something *beyond the known* -- he called it the > > > > > > > > bliss and the silence and the joy and the beauty - and all of > > > > > > > > that is beyond the image, beyond belief, beyond everything in > > > > > > > > other words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But beyond the known there is absolutely nothing! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is why one is one and not two. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One is the known - and the known is an illusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Phewing and sighing and giving up and giving in and throwing in > > > > > > > > the towelly yours > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Lene > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, being this nothing - there never was any K. talking about it, or Niz., or you or me ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nor even this nothing ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What " nothing " ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exactly. > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nothing " does not get to have its own presence, as a something ;-). > > > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > > > The " nothing " you can know something about, is not what this is. > > > > > > > > > > Any word points to something beyond the word. > > > > > > > > > > Thus, we can have a dictionary. And thus, we can teach a child to speak by saying " ball, " and then rolling a ball. > > > > > > > > > > But this nothing doesn't and can't point to something beyond or outside itself. > > > > > > > > > > Therefore, it can't be represented by any word or idea. > > > > > > > > > > Including " nothing. " > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed... > > > > > > > > What's imaginarily beyond/outside this 'nothing' is the realm of somethings. > > > > > > > > Which was never actually beyond/outside it at all. > > > > > > > > > and it's all inside of you..NOW. > > > > > > Wow! > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > Hey dude, who ever said the truth would be a thrill ride? > > > > It is what it is. > > > > If you aren't impressed enough to even discuss it, there are lists about headphones, race cars, stamp collecting, decorating teddy bears with seashells, and all that kinda stuff. > > > > Whatever ya do, have fun ;-). > > > > P.S. I know the whole thing about 'no-self' scares the bejeebers out of ya, so much that the talk is constantly about self-and-other, " you, you, you " , etc. > > But then, anyone who would whine about drinking alcohol is definitely a little... shall we say... naah, I won't say ;-). > > Go ahead and keep on avoiding looking at what 'no-self' means, and carry on with the " you-me-you-me " fraidy-cat stuff... everyone knows it for what it is, and everyone's listening, sweetie ;-). > > Cheers so first you say there is only " no-self " . and then you say: " Go ahead and keep on avoiding looking at what 'no-self' means " ... and then later again you say: " carry on with the " you-me-you-me " fraidy-cat stuff... " a bit further on you then say: " everyone knows it for what it is, and everyone's listening, sweetie " . well dummy who's supposed to " keep on avoiding " ??? who's supposed to " carry on " ??? who's all the " no-self folks in an " everyone " ?? you're as stupid as it gets dufus. and you evidently like being watched...and listened to as you moan. boys like you usually do. it's not very nice to look at timmy. keep it behind closed doors with dabbo and co. hahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa! have another drink timmy. it suits you. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
