Guest guest Report post Posted January 15, 2010 Hey John, I do not know, how people find the time to post so much. I do not have the time and therefore I'll just deliver the evening post and why not address it to you: There are two realities: One is the world, the known, which consists of images. The other is Reality which is void of images. Concerning the first, since it consists of images - it is an illusion - and therefore unreal. Concerning the last - since it is void of images - it is not, this is to say - noone there, nothing there. So - one - the world, the illusion - is not real. And the real - that which is not an illusion - does not exist. It is nothing. Noone. Now you may call me Methusalum if it is not correct for me to ergo (verb) that everything - both the phenomenological world and the void -- is not for real. An illusion (a reality built on, consisting of images) is not for real. The nothing which is beyond the illusion is not for real. What is not - is not - and thus (da daa) there is no reality to it. Real women are sooo tired of all the mumbo-jumbo. We are now left with ourselves - which is nothing, noone, un- real. Illusion. That said: the illusion which is what we call life - is beyond belief; it is wonderful, timely, schrecklich, schmutzig (no, I am not Jewish) schmuckish (but I like my way Jiddish lovely, angelic, devilish, godly, secular, and so on and forth ... and in that illusion all we say and think and do makes sense - to some - an no sense to others - but it matters not really -- because it is an illusion!! It makes a world of difference to have seen this as it has had me accept or not accept (the illusion/ " what is " is dualistic) the whole deal - including everything to it. I like this, I like not that - is totally okay - for it is not for real and yet it is the only real there is. Can you imagine how it felt before I found out that the world is an illusion? There was so much fear - first and last fear - so much - well, " bad " stuff - you know. Anyhoo - it is the only reality we have - this illusion and so we might just as well enjoy it and hate it and yell at it, and laugh at it - it is not going to stop -- it will go on forever, for ever is its middle name, its first name, and its last name and everything can & will happen as this is the way it is with illusions. Thank you for listening - whether you did or not Good nite Lene Nisargadatta , john <methusalum wrote: > > Hi Lene > > No I didn't catch what Dan said yesterday about newcomers. Was it interesting? Was it anything like how they obviously have found the rectangular thing called a " door " and used it to go outside into that really big room beyond with the blue ceiling? Or perhaps, how they may have been quick witted enough to achieve the realization they were after and so fulfilled they departed? > > How the devil do people find the time to post so much? > > -meth > > > > --- On Fri, 1/15/10, Lene <lschwabe wrote: > > > Lene <lschwabe > > Today's morning babble > > Nisargadatta > > Friday, January 15, 2010, 9:57 AM > > hopefully finds everybody alright > > this on this the blessedest > > day of all days > > > > On my reading random posts yesterday eyes caught Dan's > > writing > > something about newcomers who would write one or two posts > > and > > then vanish, unlike regular posters and that had some > > thoughts > > come to mind (oh, that is right - there is no mind - but > > never > > mind that for now for it is time for a joke -- always time > > for > > a joke in this the best of all worlds: > > > > Regular is a condom. During the war, no, not the war in > > Iraque > > or Afghanistan but the other one, WWII, it wasnt > > comme-il-faut > > to use the word condom, so people called them raincoats: > > > > " Do you know where I can buy a raincoat? " > > > > " Boots " > > > > " Where can I find boots? " > > > > " At the shoe-shop. " > > > > Just to show you all that I am a regular - thanks you much > > :-) > > > > -Lene > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > ** > > > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change > > your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit > > My Groups: > > > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for > > the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 15, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe wrote: > > Hey John, > > I do not know, how people find the time to post so much. I don't think that is such a great mystery. Many people have lot of time to watch TV, surf Internet, watch pornography, play cards. Everybody in the world is not that super busy producing all the time. A large number of the jobs don't require people to remain focussed and " working " all the time. I have a family, I have a full-time job, I watch sports, I watch TV, I watch movies, I do stock trading, I talk to friends and still, I have lot of time left. Many might be retired. Many might live alone. Many might not lack time only question might be how to spend it. Witting on an online forum is certainly not the worst way to spend time. regards, ac Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 16, 2010 Hey John, I do not know, how people find the time to post so much. I do not have the time and therefore I'll just deliver the evening post and why not address it to you: There are two realities: One is the world, the known, which consists of images. The other is Reality which is void of images. Concerning the first, since it consists of images - it is an illusion - and therefore unreal. Concerning the last - since it is void of images - it is not, this is to say - noone there, nothing there. So - one - the world, the illusion - is not real. And the real - that which is not an illusion - does not exist. It is nothing. Noone. geo: No!! Does not exist?? Dont say that. You are not seeing. That no-thing-ness is the essence of existence. Thoughts can not grasp it, it is not an experience, nonetheless is the ONLY real. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 16, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > > Hey John, > > I do not know, how people find the time to post so much. I do > not have the time and therefore I'll just deliver the evening > post and why not address it to you: > > There are two realities: > > One is the world, the known, which consists of images. > > The other is Reality which is void of images. > > Concerning the first, since it consists of images - it is an > illusion - and therefore unreal. > > Concerning the last - since it is void of images - it is not, > this is to say - noone there, nothing there. > > So - one - the world, the illusion - is not real. > > And the real - that which is not an illusion - does not exist. > It is nothing. Noone. > > geo: No!! Does not exist?? Dont say that. You are not seeing. That > no-thing-ness is the essence of existence. Thoughts can not grasp it, it is > not an experience, nonetheless is the ONLY real. no...shit???? THAT'S UNREAL dude! my oh my.. so " nonetheless " is the ONLY real. hmm mmm mm! it's no wonder thoughts cannot grasp it. i'm not sure i've even ever seen a " nonetheless " . house broken or in the wild either. i bet yer hands can't grasp a " nonetheless " either...more-OR-less. how is it that if she can't see it..you can? " nonethelesses " can't be experienced right? so no one can see what they don't experience no? i think you're joshin' right? oh you must be you big galooka. hahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! yeah that's it! you're just goofin' around. LOL! good one geoparado. now get back to the real reality kid. stop jumpin' around like a monkey who just relieved itself. but..but..cute! :-) ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 16, 2010 - BobN Nisargadatta Friday, January 15, 2010 9:54 PM Re: The evening post Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > > Hey John, > > I do not know, how people find the time to post so much. I do > not have the time and therefore I'll just deliver the evening > post and why not address it to you: > > There are two realities: > > One is the world, the known, which consists of images. > > The other is Reality which is void of images. > > Concerning the first, since it consists of images - it is an > illusion - and therefore unreal. > > Concerning the last - since it is void of images - it is not, > this is to say - noone there, nothing there. > > So - one - the world, the illusion - is not real. > > And the real - that which is not an illusion - does not exist. > It is nothing. Noone. > > geo: No!! Does not exist?? Dont say that. You are not seeing. That > no-thing-ness is the essence of existence. Thoughts can not grasp it, it > is > not an experience, nonetheless is the ONLY real. no...shit???? THAT'S UNREAL dude! my oh my.. so " nonetheless " is the ONLY real. hmm mmm mm! it's no wonder thoughts cannot grasp it. i'm not sure i've even ever seen a " nonetheless " . house broken or in the wild either. i bet yer hands can't grasp a " nonetheless " either...more-OR-less. how is it that if she can't see it..you can? " nonethelesses " can't be experienced right? so no one can see what they don't experience no? i think you're joshin' right? oh you must be you big galooka. hahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! yeah that's it! you're just goofin' around. LOL! good one geoparado. i bet yer hands can't grasp a " nonetheless " either...more-OR-less. stop jumpin' around like a monkey who just relieved itself. but..but..cute! :-) ..b b.b. i bet yer hands can't grasp a " nonetheless " either...more-OR-less. stop jumpin' around like a monkey who just relieved itself. you're just goofin' around. oh you must be you big galooka. my oh my.. yeah that's it! -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 16, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > BobN > Nisargadatta > Friday, January 15, 2010 9:54 PM > Re: The evening post > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hey John, > > > > I do not know, how people find the time to post so much. I do > > not have the time and therefore I'll just deliver the evening > > post and why not address it to you: > > > > There are two realities: > > > > One is the world, the known, which consists of images. > > > > The other is Reality which is void of images. > > > > Concerning the first, since it consists of images - it is an > > illusion - and therefore unreal. > > > > Concerning the last - since it is void of images - it is not, > > this is to say - noone there, nothing there. > > > > So - one - the world, the illusion - is not real. > > > > And the real - that which is not an illusion - does not exist. > > It is nothing. Noone. > > > > geo: No!! Does not exist?? Dont say that. You are not seeing. That > > no-thing-ness is the essence of existence. Thoughts can not grasp it, it > > is > > not an experience, nonetheless is the ONLY real. > > no...shit???? > > THAT'S UNREAL dude! > > my oh my.. > > so " nonetheless " is the ONLY real. > > hmm mmm mm! > > it's no wonder thoughts cannot grasp it. > > i'm not sure i've even ever seen a " nonetheless " . > > house broken or in the wild either. > > i bet yer hands can't grasp a " nonetheless " either...more-OR-less. > > how is it that if she can't see it..you can? > > " nonethelesses " can't be experienced right? > > so no one can see what they don't experience no? > > i think you're joshin' right? > > oh you must be you big galooka. > > hahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! > > yeah that's it! > > you're just goofin' around. > > LOL! > > good one geoparado. > > i bet yer hands can't grasp a " nonetheless " either...more-OR-less. > > stop jumpin' around like a monkey who just relieved itself. > > but..but..cute! > > :-) > > .b b.b. > > i bet yer hands can't grasp a " nonetheless " either...more-OR-less. > stop jumpin' around like a monkey who just relieved itself. > you're just goofin' around. > oh you must be you big galooka. > my oh my.. > yeah that's it! > > -geo- oh golly! gee geopardo i see you're getting all sensitive.. about baba not buying your holy bullshit. why shucks i didn't expect you to start doing a dabbo dance. ok..if you want us to think of you as some.. deep mysterious and mystical " in touch " guru.. i'll pretend and play along.. for awhile. but sooner or later..likely more soon that late.. baba's going to quit playing with you.. and just start to toy with you instead. that is if you're really going to act all huffy and holy.. and really expect .b b.b or anyone to think.. that you've " got it " ..hahahahahaaaa! as if there's anything to " get " ! just chill out Son of Brazil. you don't have anything to defend or to prove. just get down from your high hobby horse and relax. enjoy being the nothing little monkey that we all are. you aren't any better little dude. you're just a blind dufus like us all. except you are beginning to think you " have " something.. and as you initially said kid..there is ONLY nothing. and nothing to get..nothing to convey except for one or two " nonethelesses " i guess. you know..those little numbers that are: experienced as not an experience.(hee hee!) yeah that's it huh.. the " essence of the no-thing-ness-ness " LOL! yours with the real low down.. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 16, 2010 I spent quite a few (read: many) hours online myself. It does however not only take time to write - it takes much more time to read, and try to understand, what the people are trying to convey That is the time I don't have so much of although I have all the time in the world and is free to do what I like. -Lene Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > Hey John, > > > > I do not know, how people find the time to post so much. > > I don't think that is such a great mystery. Many people have lot of time to watch TV, surf Internet, watch pornography, play cards. Everybody in the world is not that super busy producing all the time. A large number of the jobs don't require people to remain focussed and " working " all the time. I have a family, I have a full-time job, I watch sports, I watch TV, I watch movies, I do stock trading, I talk to friends and still, I have lot of time left. > > Many might be retired. Many might live alone. Many might not lack time only question might be how to spend it. Witting on an online forum is certainly not the worst way to spend time. > > regards, > ac > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 16, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > > Hey John, > > I do not know, how people find the time to post so much. I do > not have the time and therefore I'll just deliver the evening > post and why not address it to you: > > There are two realities: > > One is the world, the known, which consists of images. > > The other is Reality which is void of images. > > Concerning the first, since it consists of images - it is an > illusion - and therefore unreal. > > Concerning the last - since it is void of images - it is not, > this is to say - noone there, nothing there. > > So - one - the world, the illusion - is not real. > > And the real - that which is not an illusion - does not exist. > It is nothing. Noone. > > geo: No!! Does not exist?? Dont say that. You are not seeing. That > no-thing-ness is the essence of existence. Thoughts can not grasp it, it is > not an experience, nonetheless is the ONLY real. I know - that is what they tell me - Krishnamurti, Nisargadatta, all the angels of the world tell me about this Absolute - Self - blablablabl Awareness and I may be the lonely one knows that all of this belongs to - are fragments of - the illusion. Yes, we talk about no-thing-ness - but do we even know what were babbling about? Nothing is nothing - you see. Get? NOTHING. A black hole with no hole to it! It is not even an illusion! There is nothing more to say about nothing. Everything that happens - EVERY thing - belongs to the illusion, IS the illusion, and that is the only ISS-NESS for ya. I have taken the liberty to state that the illusion is nothing - simply because it is an illusion (this life, this existance with its time and timelessness ugliness and beauty, with its gods and devils) because it is an illusion and so nothing!! But I guess I shouldn't have. The illusion is the life and let's talk about that life then and everything to it - all the little fragments - how are you today? -Lene Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 16, 2010 All that has a name or label to it is a thing, belongs to the world of things, stuff. God, Awareness, Ether, Energy, Devil, chair, table, house, body, eyes - belongs to the world which is an illusion. That is one. One is the illusion. It is amazing to see how one keeps dividing one into two and yet maintain there is but one and that one is none and so on. The wisest people say there are two, this and that - the here and the there, the latter called *beyond the here* by some. K talked about something *beyond the known* -- he called it the bliss and the silence and the joy and the beauty - and all of that is beyond the image, beyond belief, beyond everything in other words. But beyond the known there is absolutely nothing! That is why one is one and not two. One is the known - and the known is an illusion. Phewing and sighing and giving up and giving in and throwing in the towelly yours -Lene Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hey John, > > > > I do not know, how people find the time to post so much. I do > > not have the time and therefore I'll just deliver the evening > > post and why not address it to you: > > > > There are two realities: > > > > One is the world, the known, which consists of images. > > > > The other is Reality which is void of images. > > > > Concerning the first, since it consists of images - it is an > > illusion - and therefore unreal. > > > > Concerning the last - since it is void of images - it is not, > > this is to say - noone there, nothing there. > > > > So - one - the world, the illusion - is not real. > > > > And the real - that which is not an illusion - does not exist. > > It is nothing. Noone. > > > > geo: No!! Does not exist?? Dont say that. You are not seeing. That > > no-thing-ness is the essence of existence. Thoughts can not grasp it, it is > > not an experience, nonetheless is the ONLY real. > > > > I know - that is what they tell me - Krishnamurti, Nisargadatta, > all the angels of the world tell me about this Absolute - Self - > blablablabl Awareness and I may be the lonely one knows that all > of this belongs to - are fragments of - the illusion. > > Yes, we talk about no-thing-ness - but do we even know what were > babbling about? > > Nothing is nothing - you see. Get? NOTHING. A black hole with no > hole to it! It is not even an illusion! There is nothing more to > say about nothing. > > Everything that happens - EVERY thing - belongs to the illusion, > IS the illusion, and that is the only ISS-NESS for ya. > > I have taken the liberty to state that the illusion is nothing - > simply because it is an illusion (this life, this existance with > its time and timelessness ugliness and beauty, with its gods and > devils) because it is an illusion and so nothing!! But I guess I shouldn't have. > > The illusion is the life and let's talk about that life then and > everything to it - all the little fragments - how are you today? > > -Lene > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 16, 2010 - BobN Nisargadatta Friday, January 15, 2010 11:33 PM Re: The evening post Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > BobN > Nisargadatta > Friday, January 15, 2010 9:54 PM > Re: The evening post > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hey John, > > > > I do not know, how people find the time to post so much. I do > > not have the time and therefore I'll just deliver the evening > > post and why not address it to you: > > > > There are two realities: > > > > One is the world, the known, which consists of images. > > > > The other is Reality which is void of images. > > > > Concerning the first, since it consists of images - it is an > > illusion - and therefore unreal. > > > > Concerning the last - since it is void of images - it is not, > > this is to say - noone there, nothing there. > > > > So - one - the world, the illusion - is not real. > > > > And the real - that which is not an illusion - does not exist. > > It is nothing. Noone. > > > > geo: No!! Does not exist?? Dont say that. You are not seeing. That > > no-thing-ness is the essence of existence. Thoughts can not grasp it, it > > is > > not an experience, nonetheless is the ONLY real. > > no...shit???? > > THAT'S UNREAL dude! > > my oh my.. > > so " nonetheless " is the ONLY real. > > hmm mmm mm! > > it's no wonder thoughts cannot grasp it. > > i'm not sure i've even ever seen a " nonetheless " . > > house broken or in the wild either. > > i bet yer hands can't grasp a " nonetheless " either...more-OR-less. > > how is it that if she can't see it..you can? > > " nonethelesses " can't be experienced right? > > so no one can see what they don't experience no? > > i think you're joshin' right? > > oh you must be you big galooka. > > hahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! > > yeah that's it! > > you're just goofin' around. > > LOL! > > good one geoparado. > > i bet yer hands can't grasp a " nonetheless " either...more-OR-less. > > stop jumpin' around like a monkey who just relieved itself. > > but..but..cute! > > :-) > > .b b.b. > > i bet yer hands can't grasp a " nonetheless " either...more-OR-less. > stop jumpin' around like a monkey who just relieved itself. > you're just goofin' around. > oh you must be you big galooka. > my oh my.. > yeah that's it! > > -geo- oh golly! gee geopardo i see you're getting all sensitive.. about baba not buying your holy bullshit. why shucks i didn't expect you to start doing a dabbo dance. ok..if you want us to think of you as some.. deep mysterious and mystical " in touch " guru.. i'll pretend and play along.. for awhile. but sooner or later..likely more soon that late.. baba's going to quit playing with you.. and just start to toy with you instead. that is if you're really going to act all huffy and holy.. and really expect .b b.b or anyone to think.. that you've " got it " ..hahahahahaaaa! as if there's anything to " get " ! just chill out Son of Brazil. you don't have anything to defend or to prove. just get down from your high hobby horse and relax. enjoy being the nothing little monkey that we all are. you aren't any better little dude. you're just a blind dufus like us all. except you are beginning to think you " have " something.. and as you initially said kid..there is ONLY nothing. and nothing to get..nothing to convey except for one or two " nonethelesses " i guess. you know..those little numbers that are: experienced as not an experience.(hee hee!) yeah that's it huh.. the " essence of the no-thing-ness-ness " LOL! yours with the real low down.. ..b b.b. Always the same. Still always the same reactions. You sure dont care and dont know with lots of words babbo. bla bla bla.......... -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 16, 2010 - Lene Nisargadatta Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:50 AM Re: The evening post Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > > Hey John, > > I do not know, how people find the time to post so much. I do > not have the time and therefore I'll just deliver the evening > post and why not address it to you: > > There are two realities: > > One is the world, the known, which consists of images. > > The other is Reality which is void of images. > > Concerning the first, since it consists of images - it is an > illusion - and therefore unreal. > > Concerning the last - since it is void of images - it is not, > this is to say - noone there, nothing there. > > So - one - the world, the illusion - is not real. > > And the real - that which is not an illusion - does not exist. > It is nothing. Noone. > > geo: No!! Does not exist?? Dont say that. You are not seeing. That > no-thing-ness is the essence of existence. Thoughts can not grasp it, it > is > not an experience, nonetheless is the ONLY real. I know - that is what they tell me - Krishnamurti, Nisargadatta, all the angels of the world tell me about this Absolute - Self - blablablabl Awareness and I may be the lonely one knows that all of this belongs to - are fragments of - the illusion. Yes, we talk about no-thing-ness - but do we even know what were babbling about? Nothing is nothing - you see. Get? NOTHING. A black hole with no hole to it! It is not even an illusion! There is nothing more to say about nothing. Everything that happens - EVERY thing - belongs to the illusion, IS the illusion, and that is the only ISS-NESS for ya. I have taken the liberty to state that the illusion is nothing - simply because it is an illusion (this life, this existance with its time and timelessness ugliness and beauty, with its gods and devils) because it is an illusion and so nothing!! But I guess I shouldn't have. The illusion is the life and let's talk about that life then and everything to it - all the little fragments - how are you today? -Lene Look. I am not asking you to accept anything I say or K or Nis said. That would be the continuation of stupidity (belief). All and every manifestation is illusion in the sense that they are not other then " asdf " . Yes, of course there is nothing, absolutely nothing to say about " asdf " , not because it is not, but because the brain can only deal with memory contents and " asdf " is not a thing to be stored in memory. The closest I can manage to get to " asdf " with words right now is " existence per-se " . It is not some foggy fuzzy mysterious cloudy mystic thing - but the most obvious presence. You must meditate this, contemplate in the sense that you are it, so of course you will never be able to see or hear or touch it. It is quality-less but the seer of qualities, unchanging but the seer of change, the seer of illusion. Don't believe me. -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 16, 2010 - Lene Nisargadatta Saturday, January 16, 2010 8:20 AM Re: The evening post All that has a name or label to it is a thing, belongs to the world of things, stuff. God, Awareness, Ether, Energy, Devil, chair, table, house, body, eyes - belongs to the world which is an illusion. That is one. One is the illusion. -lene- This field is what Nis called consciousness. Yes it is one field of illusion. K's " consciousness " is more restricted. It is the field of the ME. The un-answerable question " what is seeing illusion? " must be wordlessly answered. -geo- It is amazing to see how one keeps dividing one into two and yet maintain there is but one and that one is none and so on. -lene- It is only two as in the analogy water-electrons. You can see, touch, smell, feel water. But without electrons there is no water. (analogy) -geo- The wisest people say there are two, this and that - the here and the there, the latter called *beyond the here* by some. K talked about something *beyond the known* -- he called it the bliss and the silence and the joy and the beauty - and all of that is beyond the image, beyond belief, beyond everything in other words. But beyond the known there is absolutely nothing! -lene- why? The known sounds are those that the ear is able to hear. It is a frequncy between 20 and 20000 cicles per second. If the air vibrates at 50000 cicles and none can hear....means it is not vibrating? -geo- That is why one is one and not two. One is the known - and the known is an illusion. Phewing and sighing and giving up and giving in and throwing in the towelly yours -Lene Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hey John, > > > > I do not know, how people find the time to post so much. I do > > not have the time and therefore I'll just deliver the evening > > post and why not address it to you: > > > > There are two realities: > > > > One is the world, the known, which consists of images. > > > > The other is Reality which is void of images. > > > > Concerning the first, since it consists of images - it is an > > illusion - and therefore unreal. > > > > Concerning the last - since it is void of images - it is not, > > this is to say - noone there, nothing there. > > > > So - one - the world, the illusion - is not real. > > > > And the real - that which is not an illusion - does not exist. > > It is nothing. Noone. > > > > geo: No!! Does not exist?? Dont say that. You are not seeing. That > > no-thing-ness is the essence of existence. Thoughts can not grasp it, it > > is > > not an experience, nonetheless is the ONLY real. > > > > I know - that is what they tell me - Krishnamurti, Nisargadatta, > all the angels of the world tell me about this Absolute - Self - > blablablabl Awareness and I may be the lonely one knows that all > of this belongs to - are fragments of - the illusion. > > Yes, we talk about no-thing-ness - but do we even know what were > babbling about? > > Nothing is nothing - you see. Get? NOTHING. A black hole with no > hole to it! It is not even an illusion! There is nothing more to > say about nothing. > > Everything that happens - EVERY thing - belongs to the illusion, > IS the illusion, and that is the only ISS-NESS for ya. > > I have taken the liberty to state that the illusion is nothing - > simply because it is an illusion (this life, this existance with > its time and timelessness ugliness and beauty, with its gods and > devils) because it is an illusion and so nothing!! But I guess I shouldn't > have. > > The illusion is the life and let's talk about that life then and > everything to it - all the little fragments - how are you today? > > -Lene > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 16, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe wrote: > > All that has a name or label to it is a thing, belongs to the > world of things, stuff. God, Awareness, Ether, Energy, Devil, > chair, table, house, body, eyes - belongs to the world which > is an illusion. That is one. One is the illusion. > > It is amazing to see how one keeps dividing one into two and > yet maintain there is but one and that one is none and so on. > > The wisest people say there are two, this and that - the here > and the there, the latter called *beyond the here* by some. K > talked about something *beyond the known* -- he called it the > bliss and the silence and the joy and the beauty - and all of > that is beyond the image, beyond belief, beyond everything in > other words. > > But beyond the known there is absolutely nothing! > > That is why one is one and not two. > > One is the known - and the known is an illusion. > > Phewing and sighing and giving up and giving in and throwing in > the towelly yours > > -Lene Yes. So, being this nothing - there never was any K. talking about it, or Niz., or you or me ... nor even this nothing ... What " nothing " ? - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 16, 2010 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Saturday, January 16, 2010 9:29 AM Re: The evening post Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe wrote: > > All that has a name or label to it is a thing, belongs to the > world of things, stuff. God, Awareness, Ether, Energy, Devil, > chair, table, house, body, eyes - belongs to the world which > is an illusion. That is one. One is the illusion. > > It is amazing to see how one keeps dividing one into two and > yet maintain there is but one and that one is none and so on. > > The wisest people say there are two, this and that - the here > and the there, the latter called *beyond the here* by some. K > talked about something *beyond the known* -- he called it the > bliss and the silence and the joy and the beauty - and all of > that is beyond the image, beyond belief, beyond everything in > other words. > > But beyond the known there is absolutely nothing! > > That is why one is one and not two. > > One is the known - and the known is an illusion. > > Phewing and sighing and giving up and giving in and throwing in > the towelly yours > > -Lene Yes. So, being this nothing - there never was any K. talking about it, or Niz., or you or me ... nor even this nothing ... What " nothing " ? - D - Dan said " being this nothing " . Will lene agree that our true nature is this nothing? (not asking dan) -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 16, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > BobN > Nisargadatta > Friday, January 15, 2010 11:33 PM > Re: The evening post > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > BobN > > Nisargadatta > > Friday, January 15, 2010 9:54 PM > > Re: The evening post > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey John, > > > > > > I do not know, how people find the time to post so much. I do > > > not have the time and therefore I'll just deliver the evening > > > post and why not address it to you: > > > > > > There are two realities: > > > > > > One is the world, the known, which consists of images. > > > > > > The other is Reality which is void of images. > > > > > > Concerning the first, since it consists of images - it is an > > > illusion - and therefore unreal. > > > > > > Concerning the last - since it is void of images - it is not, > > > this is to say - noone there, nothing there. > > > > > > So - one - the world, the illusion - is not real. > > > > > > And the real - that which is not an illusion - does not exist. > > > It is nothing. Noone. > > > > > > geo: No!! Does not exist?? Dont say that. You are not seeing. That > > > no-thing-ness is the essence of existence. Thoughts can not grasp it, it > > > is > > > not an experience, nonetheless is the ONLY real. > > > > no...shit???? > > > > THAT'S UNREAL dude! > > > > my oh my.. > > > > so " nonetheless " is the ONLY real. > > > > hmm mmm mm! > > > > it's no wonder thoughts cannot grasp it. > > > > i'm not sure i've even ever seen a " nonetheless " . > > > > house broken or in the wild either. > > > > i bet yer hands can't grasp a " nonetheless " either...more-OR-less. > > > > how is it that if she can't see it..you can? > > > > " nonethelesses " can't be experienced right? > > > > so no one can see what they don't experience no? > > > > i think you're joshin' right? > > > > oh you must be you big galooka. > > > > hahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! > > > > yeah that's it! > > > > you're just goofin' around. > > > > LOL! > > > > good one geoparado. > > > > i bet yer hands can't grasp a " nonetheless " either...more-OR-less. > > > > stop jumpin' around like a monkey who just relieved itself. > > > > but..but..cute! > > > > :-) > > > > .b b.b. > > > > i bet yer hands can't grasp a " nonetheless " either...more-OR-less. > > stop jumpin' around like a monkey who just relieved itself. > > you're just goofin' around. > > oh you must be you big galooka. > > my oh my.. > > yeah that's it! > > > > -geo- > > oh golly! > > gee geopardo i see you're getting all sensitive.. > > about baba not buying your holy bullshit. > > why shucks i didn't expect you to start doing a dabbo dance. > > ok..if you want us to think of you as some.. > > deep mysterious and mystical " in touch " guru.. > > i'll pretend and play along.. > > for awhile. > > but sooner or later..likely more soon that late.. > > baba's going to quit playing with you.. > > and just start to toy with you instead. > > that is if you're really going to act all huffy and holy.. > > and really expect .b b.b or anyone to think.. > > that you've " got it " ..hahahahahaaaa! > > as if there's anything to " get " ! > > just chill out Son of Brazil. > > you don't have anything to defend or to prove. > > just get down from your high hobby horse and relax. > > enjoy being the nothing little monkey that we all are. > > you aren't any better little dude. > > you're just a blind dufus like us all. > > except you are beginning to think you " have " something.. > > and as you initially said kid..there is ONLY nothing. > > and nothing to get..nothing to convey > > except for one or two " nonethelesses " i guess. > > you know..those little numbers that are: > > experienced as not an experience.(hee hee!) > > yeah that's it huh.. > > the " essence of the no-thing-ness-ness " > > LOL! > > yours with the real low down.. > > .b b.b. > > Always the same. Still always the same reactions. > You sure dont care and dont know with lots of words babbo. > bla bla bla.......... > -geo- geoparado take your own advice and don't read what i write. you are too emotional to handle it. you react as if it's a big deal. it's not. you're not. i'm not. your bullshit is not. have some fun.. and for Christ sakes little dude.. NOTHING ever changes. you don't change. baba doesn't change. the Big NOTHING doesn't change. ..b b.b.'s blah blah blahing doesn't change. your ignorance doesn't change. if you're really feeling you need change.. go to the dime store with a dollar. well actually THAT has changed.. so make that: go to the dollar store with a $10. bill. but in the midst of that change we can also see the changeless.. inflation never changes. well anyway bub.. chill. you ain't no enlightened guru. there aren't any. that too has never been the case and that too never changes. and as for me not caring.. with a lot or even a just a few words.. that never changes either. as for you caring so much that you read all those many or few words.. that also never changes. you think too much of yourself to miss a word.. ANY word.. that you think is about you. that's why geoparado.. no matter how many or how few words i write to you.. you are bound by your self interest.. and by baba' Supreme Power over you.. to read ALL of them EVERY time. and you are bound to later on boast that you don't as well. LOL! what a lousy trap huh? well here you are again.. at the end of the words you say that you not need to read. and you're still reading them. right to the bloody end. and the blood is yours geoparado. it's called the blood of the Crucifixion. as long as you suffer Samsara.. you will suffer the Agony. when finally " you " have dissolved into Nirvana.. Unending Bliss. but.. to THAT which is Consciousness.. without Object..or Subject.. there is no difference between Bliss or Agony.. Samsara or Nirvana. it simply never changes. hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! :-) ..b b.b. p.s. my gracious that's a lot of words! but then i know you don't read them all anyway. because you've indicated as much to wernerina beforehand.. and because as always (things never change).. you never learn the lesson. are you still reading this tripe Son of Brazil??? shame on you! LOL [.bx3] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 16, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Lene > Nisargadatta > Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:50 AM > Re: The evening post > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hey John, > > > > I do not know, how people find the time to post so much. I do > > not have the time and therefore I'll just deliver the evening > > post and why not address it to you: > > > > There are two realities: > > > > One is the world, the known, which consists of images. > > > > The other is Reality which is void of images. > > > > Concerning the first, since it consists of images - it is an > > illusion - and therefore unreal. > > > > Concerning the last - since it is void of images - it is not, > > this is to say - noone there, nothing there. > > > > So - one - the world, the illusion - is not real. > > > > And the real - that which is not an illusion - does not exist. > > It is nothing. Noone. > > > > geo: No!! Does not exist?? Dont say that. You are not seeing. That > > no-thing-ness is the essence of existence. Thoughts can not grasp it, it > > is > > not an experience, nonetheless is the ONLY real. > > I know - that is what they tell me - Krishnamurti, Nisargadatta, > all the angels of the world tell me about this Absolute - Self - > blablablabl Awareness and I may be the lonely one knows that all > of this belongs to - are fragments of - the illusion. > > Yes, we talk about no-thing-ness - but do we even know what were > babbling about? > > Nothing is nothing - you see. Get? NOTHING. A black hole with no > hole to it! It is not even an illusion! There is nothing more to > say about nothing. > > Everything that happens - EVERY thing - belongs to the illusion, > IS the illusion, and that is the only ISS-NESS for ya. > > I have taken the liberty to state that the illusion is nothing - > simply because it is an illusion (this life, this existance with > its time and timelessness ugliness and beauty, with its gods and > devils) because it is an illusion and so nothing!! But I guess I shouldn't > have. > > The illusion is the life and let's talk about that life then and > everything to it - all the little fragments - how are you today? > > -Lene > > Look. I am not asking you to accept anything I say or K or Nis said. That > would be the continuation of stupidity (belief). > All and every manifestation is illusion in the sense that they are not other > then " asdf " . > Yes, of course there is nothing, absolutely nothing to say about " asdf " , not > because it is not, but because the brain can only deal with memory contents > and " asdf " is not a thing to be stored in memory. The closest I can manage > to get to " asdf " with words right now is " existence per-se " . It is not some > foggy fuzzy mysterious cloudy mystic thing - but the most obvious presence. > You must meditate this, contemplate in the sense that you are it, so of > course you will never be able to see or hear or touch it. It is quality-less > but the seer of qualities, unchanging but the seer of change, the seer of > illusion. Don't believe me. > -geo- ROFLMAO! don't believe what " me " ??? oh you poor bastard! :-) ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 16, 2010 geoparado.. are you really dabbo in disguise? maybe you should ask your friend wernie.. he may know.. unless the three of you......are One. oh gosh! well who'd have thunk huh? i'd forgotten... if it looks like a duck.. walks like a duck.. and quacks like a duck.. it may very well be a: geodabbowernerina duck. LOL! ..b b.b. Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Lene > Nisargadatta > Saturday, January 16, 2010 8:20 AM > Re: The evening post > > > > All that has a name or label to it is a thing, belongs to the > world of things, stuff. God, Awareness, Ether, Energy, Devil, > chair, table, house, body, eyes - belongs to the world which > is an illusion. That is one. One is the illusion. > -lene- > > This field is what Nis called consciousness. Yes it is one field of > illusion. K's " consciousness " is more restricted. It is the field of the ME. > The un-answerable question " what is seeing illusion? " must be wordlessly > answered. > -geo- > > It is amazing to see how one keeps dividing one into two and > yet maintain there is but one and that one is none and so on. > -lene- > > It is only two as in the analogy water-electrons. You can see, touch, smell, > feel water. But without electrons there is no water. (analogy) > -geo- > > The wisest people say there are two, this and that - the here > and the there, the latter called *beyond the here* by some. K > talked about something *beyond the known* -- he called it the > bliss and the silence and the joy and the beauty - and all of > that is beyond the image, beyond belief, beyond everything in > other words. > > But beyond the known there is absolutely nothing! > -lene- > > why? The known sounds are those that the ear is able to hear. It is a > frequncy between 20 and 20000 cicles per second. If the air vibrates at > 50000 cicles and none can hear....means it is not vibrating? > -geo- > > That is why one is one and not two. > > One is the known - and the known is an illusion. > > Phewing and sighing and giving up and giving in and throwing in > the towelly yours > > -Lene > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey John, > > > > > > I do not know, how people find the time to post so much. I do > > > not have the time and therefore I'll just deliver the evening > > > post and why not address it to you: > > > > > > There are two realities: > > > > > > One is the world, the known, which consists of images. > > > > > > The other is Reality which is void of images. > > > > > > Concerning the first, since it consists of images - it is an > > > illusion - and therefore unreal. > > > > > > Concerning the last - since it is void of images - it is not, > > > this is to say - noone there, nothing there. > > > > > > So - one - the world, the illusion - is not real. > > > > > > And the real - that which is not an illusion - does not exist. > > > It is nothing. Noone. > > > > > > geo: No!! Does not exist?? Dont say that. You are not seeing. That > > > no-thing-ness is the essence of existence. Thoughts can not grasp it, it > > > is > > > not an experience, nonetheless is the ONLY real. > > > > > > > > I know - that is what they tell me - Krishnamurti, Nisargadatta, > > all the angels of the world tell me about this Absolute - Self - > > blablablabl Awareness and I may be the lonely one knows that all > > of this belongs to - are fragments of - the illusion. > > > > Yes, we talk about no-thing-ness - but do we even know what were > > babbling about? > > > > Nothing is nothing - you see. Get? NOTHING. A black hole with no > > hole to it! It is not even an illusion! There is nothing more to > > say about nothing. > > > > Everything that happens - EVERY thing - belongs to the illusion, > > IS the illusion, and that is the only ISS-NESS for ya. > > > > I have taken the liberty to state that the illusion is nothing - > > simply because it is an illusion (this life, this existance with > > its time and timelessness ugliness and beauty, with its gods and > > devils) because it is an illusion and so nothing!! But I guess I shouldn't > > have. > > > > The illusion is the life and let's talk about that life then and > > everything to it - all the little fragments - how are you today? > > > > -Lene > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 16, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > All that has a name or label to it is a thing, belongs to the > > world of things, stuff. God, Awareness, Ether, Energy, Devil, > > chair, table, house, body, eyes - belongs to the world which > > is an illusion. That is one. One is the illusion. > > > > It is amazing to see how one keeps dividing one into two and > > yet maintain there is but one and that one is none and so on. > > > > The wisest people say there are two, this and that - the here > > and the there, the latter called *beyond the here* by some. K > > talked about something *beyond the known* -- he called it the > > bliss and the silence and the joy and the beauty - and all of > > that is beyond the image, beyond belief, beyond everything in > > other words. > > > > But beyond the known there is absolutely nothing! > > > > That is why one is one and not two. > > > > One is the known - and the known is an illusion. > > > > Phewing and sighing and giving up and giving in and throwing in > > the towelly yours > > > > -Lene > > Yes. > > So, being this nothing - there never was any K. talking about it, or Niz., or you or me ... > > nor even this nothing ... > > What " nothing " ? > > > - D - the nothing you be talkin' 'bout dabb. gosh you should have known that. just like you think you know everything else. you know.. the everything that's nothing. sure you know. and you know that you know. and you know.. that's so damn funny i just gotta laugh. :-) ..b b.b Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 16, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Saturday, January 16, 2010 9:29 AM > Re: The evening post > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > All that has a name or label to it is a thing, belongs to the > > world of things, stuff. God, Awareness, Ether, Energy, Devil, > > chair, table, house, body, eyes - belongs to the world which > > is an illusion. That is one. One is the illusion. > > > > It is amazing to see how one keeps dividing one into two and > > yet maintain there is but one and that one is none and so on. > > > > The wisest people say there are two, this and that - the here > > and the there, the latter called *beyond the here* by some. K > > talked about something *beyond the known* -- he called it the > > bliss and the silence and the joy and the beauty - and all of > > that is beyond the image, beyond belief, beyond everything in > > other words. > > > > But beyond the known there is absolutely nothing! > > > > That is why one is one and not two. > > > > One is the known - and the known is an illusion. > > > > Phewing and sighing and giving up and giving in and throwing in > > the towelly yours > > > > -Lene > > Yes. > > So, being this nothing - there never was any K. talking about it, or Niz., > or you or me ... > > nor even this nothing ... > > What " nothing " ? > > - D - > > Dan said " being this nothing " . Will lene agree that our true nature > is this nothing? (not asking dan) > -geo- go get'em tiger! not that you asked me. i don't care. that never changes. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 16, 2010 > > >L: I do not know, how people find the time to post so much. I do > > > not have the time and therefore I'll just deliver the evening > > > post and why not address it to you: > > > > > > There are two realities: > > > > > > One is the world, the known, which consists of images. > > > > > > The other is Reality which is void of images. > > > > > > Concerning the first, since it consists of images - it is an > > > illusion - and therefore unreal. > > > > > > Concerning the last - since it is void of images - it is not, > > > this is to say - noone there, nothing there. > > > > > > So - one - the world, the illusion - is not real. > > > > > > And the real - that which is not an illusion - does not exist. > > > It is nothing. Noone. > > > > > > > > > > I know - that is what they tell me - Krishnamurti, Nisargadatta, > > all the angels of the world tell me about this Absolute - Self - > > blablablabl Awareness and I may be the lonely one knows that all > > of this belongs to - are fragments of - the illusion. > > > > Yes, we talk about no-thing-ness - but do we even know what were > > babbling about? P: Lene, can we go into these terms and see what we mean by them? What do we mean when say this is illusion, and that is real? What standard do we use to distinguish one from the other? In everyday language we take for granted last night dreams were illusions, but the beds we slept in were real. We base that conclusion on the fact that beds last longer than dreams, they change very slowly. They are more constant, consistent, more dependable. So, are you saying that the world is illusion because it's evanescent, changeable, inconsistent, not dependable? Are you saying Nothing is the only reality because it never changes? What is knowledge to you? What do we say, when we say " we know " a thing? Can we know anything fully, completely? IMO, all we know is stories we make about our perceptions. The world we know is the stories our culture has made about what we perceive. The atom, relativity, galaxies, are scientific stories. God and the soul are religious stories. The One, Absolute, Nothingness are also stories. Because our senses are limited, we perceive partially, so we know only stories about partial perceptions. Can we stay with sensations without stories for a while and sense what being completely conscious, and completely unconscious are? Maybe then, we can discover something beyond any story ever told. Pete > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 16, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > All that has a name or label to it is a thing, belongs to the > > world of things, stuff. God, Awareness, Ether, Energy, Devil, > > chair, table, house, body, eyes - belongs to the world which > > is an illusion. That is one. One is the illusion. > > > > It is amazing to see how one keeps dividing one into two and > > yet maintain there is but one and that one is none and so on. > > > > The wisest people say there are two, this and that - the here > > and the there, the latter called *beyond the here* by some. K > > talked about something *beyond the known* -- he called it the > > bliss and the silence and the joy and the beauty - and all of > > that is beyond the image, beyond belief, beyond everything in > > other words. > > > > But beyond the known there is absolutely nothing! > > > > That is why one is one and not two. > > > > One is the known - and the known is an illusion. > > > > Phewing and sighing and giving up and giving in and throwing in > > the towelly yours > > > > -Lene > > Yes. > > So, being this nothing - there never was any K. talking about it, or Niz., or you or me ... > > nor even this nothing ... > > What " nothing " ? > > > - D - > Exactly. " Nothing " does not get to have its own presence, as a something ;-). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 16, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > Exactly. > > " Nothing " does not get to have its own presence, as a something ;-). > -t- > > Just a passing point.....and immediatly I am everything :>) > -geo- > You're already 'everything' (and nothing). The barrier of fear is there. It can't be bypassed. One is the fear one is trying to avoid. When there's no other option, one will " just be it " . As long as there seems to be some other option, one won't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 16, 2010 - Tim G. Nisargadatta Saturday, January 16, 2010 6:16 PM Re: The evening post Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > All that has a name or label to it is a thing, belongs to the > > world of things, stuff. God, Awareness, Ether, Energy, Devil, > > chair, table, house, body, eyes - belongs to the world which > > is an illusion. That is one. One is the illusion. > > > > It is amazing to see how one keeps dividing one into two and > > yet maintain there is but one and that one is none and so on. > > > > The wisest people say there are two, this and that - the here > > and the there, the latter called *beyond the here* by some. K > > talked about something *beyond the known* -- he called it the > > bliss and the silence and the joy and the beauty - and all of > > that is beyond the image, beyond belief, beyond everything in > > other words. > > > > But beyond the known there is absolutely nothing! > > > > That is why one is one and not two. > > > > One is the known - and the known is an illusion. > > > > Phewing and sighing and giving up and giving in and throwing in > > the towelly yours > > > > -Lene > > Yes. > > So, being this nothing - there never was any K. talking about it, or Niz., > or you or me ... > > nor even this nothing ... > > What " nothing " ? > > > - D - > Exactly. " Nothing " does not get to have its own presence, as a something ;-). -t- Just a passing point.....and immediatly I am everything :>) -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 17, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Tim G. > Nisargadatta > Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:06 PM > Re: The evening post > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Exactly. > > > > " Nothing " does not get to have its own presence, as a something ;-). > > -t- > > > > Just a passing point.....and immediatly I am everything :>) > > -geo- > > > > You're already 'everything' (and nothing). > > The barrier of fear is there. It can't be bypassed. One is the fear one is > trying to avoid. > > When there's no other option, one will " just be it " . > > As long as there seems to be some other option, one won't. > -tim- > > fear..... habit....conditioning....inertia....greed.... > -geo- > Yes, inertia can be a real issue, the " automaticity " of the auto-pilot. Living in awareness means living from moment to moment, without any auto-pilot. It has to be given up altogether if one wants to live in 'reality'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 17, 2010 - Tim G. Nisargadatta Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:06 PM Re: The evening post Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > Exactly. > > " Nothing " does not get to have its own presence, as a something ;-). > -t- > > Just a passing point.....and immediatly I am everything :>) > -geo- > You're already 'everything' (and nothing). The barrier of fear is there. It can't be bypassed. One is the fear one is trying to avoid. When there's no other option, one will " just be it " . As long as there seems to be some other option, one won't. -tim- fear..... habit....conditioning....inertia....greed.... -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
