Guest guest Report post Posted December 31, 2009 Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > > > and God entered the world.... > > begun to talk.... > and talk....and talk...and talk.... > > until he/she forgot which door had been the entrence door.... > > living...and bubbling....endlessly.... > > because of missing and ignoring the origine.... > > behaving like a real champion of ignorance.... > > and believing it is liberation... > > ... > > oh God...please don't enter anymore any worlds!!.. > > and stay being Nothing...Emptyness....for all times....endlessly....wherever....however....whenever....whatever.... > > > ... > > > > > Marc The day that nothing developed eye sockets to look out at a world, and a mouth that wanted to taste food - that was a great day for ignorance. But it turns out, it was only nothing looking at nothing, and nothing tasting nothing - all along. - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 31, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Use your mind to know your mind. It is perfectly legitimate and also the best preparation for going beyond the mind. > > > > > > Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > > > There is nothing else being known, but mind by mind, which is an image of imaging. > > > > > > > > > > Understanding this, the knowing in which a knower knows something, dissolves, as there is no distance apart. > > > > > > > > > > Beyond any mind > > > > > > > > > > One > > > > > > > > > > Now > > > > > > > > > > Is > > > > > > > > > No,beyond the mind, none is. > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > yes, behond the mind, none...and no One is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > All these nobodies proclaiming loudly that no one is! > > > > > > They won't allow anyone to say that one is. > > > > > > They will tell you over and over that no one is. > > > > > > How funny is this list. > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > They want 'everyone' to see that there's 'no one' ! > > > > LOL... > > The " nothing and nobody " police ... worried about getting a ticket dabbo? LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 31, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > There is nothing else being known, but mind by mind, which is an image of imaging. > > > > > > > > Understanding this, the knowing in which a knower knows something, dissolves, as there is no distance apart. > > > > > > > > Beyond any mind > > > > > > > > One > > > > > > > > Now > > > > > > > > Is > > > > > > > No,beyond the mind, none is. > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > yes, behond the mind, none...and no One is > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > All these nobodies proclaiming loudly that no one is! > > > > They won't allow anyone to say that one is. > > > > They will tell you over and over that no one is. > > > > How funny is this list. > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > ohhh Danyboy.....lol > > > > So...go on ....with whatever imagination about this your being... > > > > Nobody care about... > > > > exactly...and definitly nobody! > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > Marc - > > You are telling nothing to go on with something? > > That is funny stuff. > > Nothing sees and knows only nothing - and therefore, not even " nothing. " > > - Dan - nothing requires no " not even " . you're referring to something else. it's the best you can do though. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 31, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Use your mind to know your mind. It is perfectly legitimate and also the best preparation for going beyond the mind. > > > > > > Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > > > There is nothing else being known, but mind by mind, which is an image of imaging. > > > > > > > > > > Understanding this, the knowing in which a knower knows something, dissolves, as there is no distance apart. > > > > > > > > > > Beyond any mind > > > > > > > > > > One > > > > > > > > > > Now > > > > > > > > > > Is > > > > > > > > > No,beyond the mind, none is. > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > yes, behond the mind, none...and no One is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > True, behond the mind, nohone... and no hOne is > > > > > > > > > Wernher > > > > > > > > ROFLMAHO! > > > > -L > > Yes, actually it's a good term. > > " no hOne. " > > Could catch on. > > - D - with you and the other kids maybe. playtime party! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 31, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > and God entered the world.... > > > > begun to talk.... > > and talk....and talk...and talk.... > > > > until he/she forgot which door had been the entrence door.... > > > > living...and bubbling....endlessly.... > > > > because of missing and ignoring the origine.... > > > > behaving like a real champion of ignorance.... > > > > and believing it is liberation... > > > > ... > > > > oh God...please don't enter anymore any worlds!!.. > > > > and stay being Nothing...Emptyness....for all times....endlessly....wherever....however....whenever....whatever.... > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > The day that nothing developed eye sockets to look out at a world, and a mouth that wanted to taste food - that was a great day for ignorance. > > But it turns out, it was only nothing looking at nothing, and nothing tasting nothing - all along. > > - D - cut it out! what horseshit. you should be writing for Harlequin Romance Paperbacks. Reader's Digest would reject your stuff on principle however. the principle of common sense. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 31, 2009 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Use your mind to know your mind. It is perfectly legitimate and also the best preparation for going beyond the mind. > > > > Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > There is nothing else being known, but mind by mind, which is an image of imaging. > > > > > > Understanding this, the knowing in which a knower knows something, dissolves, as there is no distance apart. > > > > > > Beyond any mind > > > > > > One > > > > > > Now > > > > > > Is > > > > > No,beyond the mind, none is. > > Mark > > > what about before the mind? > > the mind IS none. > > that's why it seeks fulfillment. > > beyond that..it isn't. > > pssst... > > it's a conspiracy of One. > > .b b.b. > I stand corrected. the mind is indeed none when realized as such. LOL, the conspiracy of being One. precisly said. Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 31, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Use your mind to know your mind. It is perfectly legitimate and also the best preparation for going beyond the mind. > > > > Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > There is nothing else being known, but mind by mind, which is an image of imaging. > > > > > > Understanding this, the knowing in which a knower knows something, dissolves, as there is no distance apart. > > > > > > Beyond any mind > > > > > > One > > > > > > Now > > > > > > Is > > > > > No,beyond the mind, none is. > > Mark > > Then who are you to tell me this? > > - D - > Nonduality has no problem with duality. Why to try to make it one? Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 31, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > marktimmins60 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:36 PM > Re: mind this > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Use your mind to know your mind. It is perfectly legitimate and also > > > > > the best preparation for going beyond the mind. > > > > > Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > There is nothing else being known, but mind by mind, which is an image > > > > of imaging. > > > > > > > > Understanding this, the knowing in which a knower knows something, > > > > dissolves, as there is no distance apart. > > > > > > > > Beyond any mind > > > > > > > > One > > > > > > > > Now > > > > > > > > Is > > > > > > > No,beyond the mind, none is. > > > Mark > > > > Then who are you to tell me this? > > > > - D - > > > Nonduality has no problem with duality. > Why to try to make it one? > Mark > > Let me try to make it two... > The universe... and me in another one... > > Trying.... > > trying.... > > -geo- > Duality, nonduality, the two, the One, the universe, the me etc are just categories of thought. In reality there is neither duality nor nonduality etc. Werner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2010 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > marktimmins60 > > Nisargadatta > > Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:36 PM > > Re: mind this > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Use your mind to know your mind. It is perfectly legitimate and also > > > > > > the best preparation for going beyond the mind. > > > > > > Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > > > There is nothing else being known, but mind by mind, which is an image > > > > > of imaging. > > > > > > > > > > Understanding this, the knowing in which a knower knows something, > > > > > dissolves, as there is no distance apart. > > > > > > > > > > Beyond any mind > > > > > > > > > > One > > > > > > > > > > Now > > > > > > > > > > Is > > > > > > > > > No,beyond the mind, none is. > > > > Mark > > > > > > Then who are you to tell me this? > > > > > > - D - > > > > > Nonduality has no problem with duality. > > Why to try to make it one? > > Mark > > > > Let me try to make it two... > > The universe... and me in another one... > > > > Trying.... > > > > trying.... > > > > -geo- > > > > Duality, nonduality, the two, the One, the universe, the me etc are just categories of thought. In reality there is neither duality nor nonduality etc. > > Werner like hell there's no etc. you're screwed up wernerina. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2010 - marktimmins60 Nisargadatta Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:36 PM Re: mind this Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Use your mind to know your mind. It is perfectly legitimate and also > > > > the best preparation for going beyond the mind. > > > > Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > There is nothing else being known, but mind by mind, which is an image > > > of imaging. > > > > > > Understanding this, the knowing in which a knower knows something, > > > dissolves, as there is no distance apart. > > > > > > Beyond any mind > > > > > > One > > > > > > Now > > > > > > Is > > > > > No,beyond the mind, none is. > > Mark > > Then who are you to tell me this? > > - D - > Nonduality has no problem with duality. Why to try to make it one? Mark Let me try to make it two... The universe... and me in another one... Trying.... trying.... -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > marktimmins60 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:53 PM > Re: mind this > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > marktimmins60 > > Nisargadatta > > Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:36 PM > > Re: mind this > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > <marktimmins60@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Use your mind to know your mind. It is perfectly legitimate and > > > > > > also > > > > > > the best preparation for going beyond the mind. > > > > > > Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > > > There is nothing else being known, but mind by mind, which is an > > > > > image > > > > > of imaging. > > > > > > > > > > Understanding this, the knowing in which a knower knows something, > > > > > dissolves, as there is no distance apart. > > > > > > > > > > Beyond any mind > > > > > > > > > > One > > > > > > > > > > Now > > > > > > > > > > Is > > > > > > > > > No,beyond the mind, none is. > > > > Mark > > > > > > Then who are you to tell me this? > > > > > > - D - > > > > > Nonduality has no problem with duality. > > Why to try to make it one? > > Mark > > > > Let me try to make it two... > > The universe... and me in another one... > > > > Trying.... > > > > trying.... > > > > -geo- > > > what in the hell are you talking about? > Mark > > Duality is the idea of some inner separate entity observing an outer world. > So I am trying to realize such deed...What is wrong with it? > > ...trying > > ...trying > -geo- > what is wrong is you thinking that there is separation anywhere. Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2010 - marktimmins60 Nisargadatta Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:53 PM Re: mind this Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > marktimmins60 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:36 PM > Re: mind this > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > <marktimmins60@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Use your mind to know your mind. It is perfectly legitimate and > > > > > also > > > > > the best preparation for going beyond the mind. > > > > > Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > There is nothing else being known, but mind by mind, which is an > > > > image > > > > of imaging. > > > > > > > > Understanding this, the knowing in which a knower knows something, > > > > dissolves, as there is no distance apart. > > > > > > > > Beyond any mind > > > > > > > > One > > > > > > > > Now > > > > > > > > Is > > > > > > > No,beyond the mind, none is. > > > Mark > > > > Then who are you to tell me this? > > > > - D - > > > Nonduality has no problem with duality. > Why to try to make it one? > Mark > > Let me try to make it two... > The universe... and me in another one... > > Trying.... > > trying.... > > -geo- > what in the hell are you talking about? Mark Duality is the idea of some inner separate entity observing an outer world. So I am trying to realize such deed...What is wrong with it? ....trying ....trying -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > marktimmins60 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, December 31, 2009 8:45 PM > Re: mind this > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > marktimmins60 > > Nisargadatta > > Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:53 PM > > Re: mind this > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > marktimmins60 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:36 PM > > > Re: mind this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > > <marktimmins60@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Use your mind to know your mind. It is perfectly legitimate and > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > the best preparation for going beyond the mind. > > > > > > > Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is nothing else being known, but mind by mind, which is an > > > > > > image > > > > > > of imaging. > > > > > > > > > > > > Understanding this, the knowing in which a knower knows something, > > > > > > dissolves, as there is no distance apart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Beyond any mind > > > > > > > > > > > > One > > > > > > > > > > > > Now > > > > > > > > > > > > Is > > > > > > > > > > > No,beyond the mind, none is. > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > Then who are you to tell me this? > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > Nonduality has no problem with duality. > > > Why to try to make it one? > > > Mark > > > > > > Let me try to make it two... > > > The universe... and me in another one... > > > > > > Trying.... > > > > > > trying.... > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > what in the hell are you talking about? > > Mark > > > > Duality is the idea of some inner separate entity observing an outer > > world. > > So I am trying to realize such deed...What is wrong with it? > > > > ...trying > > > > ...trying > > -geo- > > > what is wrong is you thinking that there is separation anywhere. > Mark > > You said " nonduality has no problem with duality. " > I say either one or the other. Light or dark. > -geo- > when you believe or even when you don't believe your mind duality is realized when you don't nonduality is all there is so the cool part of this story is nonduality includes both because it is all the same. or something like that. Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2010 - marktimmins60 Nisargadatta Thursday, December 31, 2009 8:45 PM Re: mind this Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > marktimmins60 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:53 PM > Re: mind this > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > marktimmins60 > > Nisargadatta > > Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:36 PM > > Re: mind this > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > <marktimmins60@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Use your mind to know your mind. It is perfectly legitimate and > > > > > > also > > > > > > the best preparation for going beyond the mind. > > > > > > Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > > > There is nothing else being known, but mind by mind, which is an > > > > > image > > > > > of imaging. > > > > > > > > > > Understanding this, the knowing in which a knower knows something, > > > > > dissolves, as there is no distance apart. > > > > > > > > > > Beyond any mind > > > > > > > > > > One > > > > > > > > > > Now > > > > > > > > > > Is > > > > > > > > > No,beyond the mind, none is. > > > > Mark > > > > > > Then who are you to tell me this? > > > > > > - D - > > > > > Nonduality has no problem with duality. > > Why to try to make it one? > > Mark > > > > Let me try to make it two... > > The universe... and me in another one... > > > > Trying.... > > > > trying.... > > > > -geo- > > > what in the hell are you talking about? > Mark > > Duality is the idea of some inner separate entity observing an outer > world. > So I am trying to realize such deed...What is wrong with it? > > ...trying > > ...trying > -geo- > what is wrong is you thinking that there is separation anywhere. Mark You said " nonduality has no problem with duality. " I say either one or the other. Light or dark. -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > marktimmins60 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, December 31, 2009 2:39 AM > Re: mind this > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Use your mind to know your mind. It is perfectly legitimate and also the > > > best preparation for going beyond the mind. > > > Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > Yes. > > > > There is nothing else being known, but mind by mind, which is an image of > > imaging. > > > > Understanding this, the knowing in which a knower knows something, > > dissolves, as there is no distance apart. > > > > Beyond any mind > > > > One > > > > Now > > > > Is > > > No,beyond the mind, none is. > Mark > > Beyond the mind there is a none. ROFLOL! And behond the nun there is a monkey Sorry - I dunno - it is lingo -- who invented that incredibly funny playtoy? -L Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2010 Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Use your mind to know your mind. It is perfectly legitimate and also the best preparation for going beyond the mind. > > > > > Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > There is nothing else being known, but mind by mind, which is an image of imaging. > > > > > > > > Understanding this, the knowing in which a knower knows something, dissolves, as there is no distance apart. > > > > > > > > Beyond any mind > > > > > > > > One > > > > > > > > Now > > > > > > > > Is > > > > > > > No,beyond the mind, none is. > > > Mark > > > > Then who are you to tell me this? > > > > - D - > > > Nonduality has no problem with duality. > Why to try to make it one? > Mark Huh? You see someone there to try something? - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2010 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Duality, nonduality, the two, the One, the universe, the me etc are just categories of thought. In reality there is neither duality nor nonduality etc. > > Werner Categories of thought pertain only to thought. This is so also for " reality " and " neither " - which also pertain only to thought. As for what is not of thought - haven't had any thoughts about that. - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2010 Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > marktimmins60 > > Nisargadatta > > Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:53 PM > > Re: mind this > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > marktimmins60 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:36 PM > > > Re: mind this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > > <marktimmins60@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Use your mind to know your mind. It is perfectly legitimate and > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > the best preparation for going beyond the mind. > > > > > > > Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is nothing else being known, but mind by mind, which is an > > > > > > image > > > > > > of imaging. > > > > > > > > > > > > Understanding this, the knowing in which a knower knows something, > > > > > > dissolves, as there is no distance apart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Beyond any mind > > > > > > > > > > > > One > > > > > > > > > > > > Now > > > > > > > > > > > > Is > > > > > > > > > > > No,beyond the mind, none is. > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > Then who are you to tell me this? > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > Nonduality has no problem with duality. > > > Why to try to make it one? > > > Mark > > > > > > Let me try to make it two... > > > The universe... and me in another one... > > > > > > Trying.... > > > > > > trying.... > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > what in the hell are you talking about? > > Mark > > > > Duality is the idea of some inner separate entity observing an outer world. > > So I am trying to realize such deed...What is wrong with it? > > > > ...trying > > > > ...trying > > -geo- > > > what is wrong is you thinking that there is separation anywhere. > Mark There can't be something wrong, unless separation is assumed. - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2010 Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > marktimmins60 > > Nisargadatta > > Thursday, December 31, 2009 8:45 PM > > Re: mind this > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > marktimmins60 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:53 PM > > > Re: mind this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > marktimmins60 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:36 PM > > > > Re: mind this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > > > <marktimmins60@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Use your mind to know your mind. It is perfectly legitimate and > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > the best preparation for going beyond the mind. > > > > > > > > Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is nothing else being known, but mind by mind, which is an > > > > > > > image > > > > > > > of imaging. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Understanding this, the knowing in which a knower knows something, > > > > > > > dissolves, as there is no distance apart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beyond any mind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is > > > > > > > > > > > > > No,beyond the mind, none is. > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > Then who are you to tell me this? > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > Nonduality has no problem with duality. > > > > Why to try to make it one? > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > Let me try to make it two... > > > > The universe... and me in another one... > > > > > > > > Trying.... > > > > > > > > trying.... > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > what in the hell are you talking about? > > > Mark > > > > > > Duality is the idea of some inner separate entity observing an outer > > > world. > > > So I am trying to realize such deed...What is wrong with it? > > > > > > ...trying > > > > > > ...trying > > > -geo- > > > > > what is wrong is you thinking that there is separation anywhere. > > Mark > > > > You said " nonduality has no problem with duality. " > > I say either one or the other. Light or dark. > > -geo- > > > when you believe or even when you don't believe your mind duality is realized > when you don't nonduality is all there is > so the cool part of this story is nonduality > includes both because it is all the same. > > or something like that. > Mark There's no story about this. - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Use your mind to know your mind. It is perfectly legitimate and also the best preparation for going beyond the mind. > > > > > > Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > > > There is nothing else being known, but mind by mind, which is an image of imaging. > > > > > > > > > > Understanding this, the knowing in which a knower knows something, dissolves, as there is no distance apart. > > > > > > > > > > Beyond any mind > > > > > > > > > > One > > > > > > > > > > Now > > > > > > > > > > Is > > > > > > > > > No,beyond the mind, none is. > > > > Mark > > > > > > Then who are you to tell me this? > > > > > > - D - > > > > > Nonduality has no problem with duality. > > Why to try to make it one? > > Mark > > Huh? > > You see someone there to try something? > > - D - everyone does.. the same little boy who asks: " Then who are you to tell me this? " and then: " You see someone there to try something? " cut the bullshit dabbo. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > marktimmins60 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:53 PM > > > Re: mind this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > marktimmins60 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:36 PM > > > > Re: mind this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > > > <marktimmins60@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Use your mind to know your mind. It is perfectly legitimate and > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > the best preparation for going beyond the mind. > > > > > > > > Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is nothing else being known, but mind by mind, which is an > > > > > > > image > > > > > > > of imaging. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Understanding this, the knowing in which a knower knows something, > > > > > > > dissolves, as there is no distance apart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beyond any mind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is > > > > > > > > > > > > > No,beyond the mind, none is. > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > Then who are you to tell me this? > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > Nonduality has no problem with duality. > > > > Why to try to make it one? > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > Let me try to make it two... > > > > The universe... and me in another one... > > > > > > > > Trying.... > > > > > > > > trying.... > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > what in the hell are you talking about? > > > Mark > > > > > > Duality is the idea of some inner separate entity observing an outer world. > > > So I am trying to realize such deed...What is wrong with it? > > > > > > ...trying > > > > > > ...trying > > > -geo- > > > > > what is wrong is you thinking that there is separation anywhere. > > Mark > > There can't be something wrong, unless separation is assumed. > > - D - by whom? if there's a " who " assuming there's separation. what the hell's the matter with you? and there you go again judging.. what's " wrong " and what's " right " . only pompous assholes assume there are such divisions. then has the temerity to say.. " unless separation is assumed. " what a screwball. pope dabbo fits directly in that category. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > marktimmins60 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Thursday, December 31, 2009 8:45 PM > > > Re: mind this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > marktimmins60 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:53 PM > > > > Re: mind this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > marktimmins60 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:36 PM > > > > > Re: mind this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " <marktimmins60@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " marktimmins60 " > > > > > > > > <marktimmins60@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Use your mind to know your mind. It is perfectly legitimate and > > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > the best preparation for going beyond the mind. > > > > > > > > > Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is nothing else being known, but mind by mind, which is an > > > > > > > > image > > > > > > > > of imaging. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Understanding this, the knowing in which a knower knows something, > > > > > > > > dissolves, as there is no distance apart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beyond any mind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No,beyond the mind, none is. > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > Then who are you to tell me this? > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > Nonduality has no problem with duality. > > > > > Why to try to make it one? > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > Let me try to make it two... > > > > > The universe... and me in another one... > > > > > > > > > > Trying.... > > > > > > > > > > trying.... > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > what in the hell are you talking about? > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > Duality is the idea of some inner separate entity observing an outer > > > > world. > > > > So I am trying to realize such deed...What is wrong with it? > > > > > > > > ...trying > > > > > > > > ...trying > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > what is wrong is you thinking that there is separation anywhere. > > > Mark > > > > > > You said " nonduality has no problem with duality. " > > > I say either one or the other. Light or dark. > > > -geo- > > > > > when you believe or even when you don't believe your mind duality is realized > > when you don't nonduality is all there is > > so the cool part of this story is nonduality > > includes both because it is all the same. > > > > or something like that. > > Mark > > There's no story about this. > > - D - you lie! hell you try and tell them all the time. of course they are silly. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > Duality, nonduality, the two, the One, the universe, the me etc are just categories of thought. In reality there is neither duality nor nonduality etc. > > > > Werner > > Categories of thought pertain only to thought. > > This is so also for " reality " and " neither " - which also pertain only to thought. > > As for what is not of thought - haven't had any thoughts about that. > > - D - > Dan, your are and idiot. I more and more suspect that you and Bob is the same person. You both are doing the same here. Bob with 'insults' and you with 'nondaul blabber'. Werner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2010 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Duality, nonduality, the two, the One, the universe, the me etc are just categories of thought. In reality there is neither duality nor nonduality etc. > > > > > > Werner > > > > Categories of thought pertain only to thought. > > > > This is so also for " reality " and " neither " - which also pertain only to thought. > > > > As for what is not of thought - haven't had any thoughts about that. > > > > - D - > > > > > Dan, your are and idiot. He seems like an intelligent fellow to me, fwiw. P.S. " your " are " and " idiot??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Duality, nonduality, the two, the One, the universe, the me etc are just categories of thought. In reality there is neither duality nor nonduality etc. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > Categories of thought pertain only to thought. > > > > > > This is so also for " reality " and " neither " - which also pertain only to thought. > > > > > > As for what is not of thought - haven't had any thoughts about that. > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > Dan, your are and idiot. > > He seems like an intelligent fellow to me, fwiw. > > P.S. " your " are " and " idiot??? > P.S. In spite of trying hard I rarely succeed writing any post without mistypings. Reason: Very bad eyesight ... Werner Werner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites