Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Werner - > > > > > > > > One makes oneself into two when dividing into subject located separately from object. > > > > > > > > It is the project called " survival in time. " > > > > > > > > One will keep on being two, until one understands and resolves the issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > what does one make oneself into when one says: > > > > > > " One makes oneself into two.. > > > > > > when dividing into subject located separately from object. " > > > > > > an ass maybe? > > > > Nothing at all... just words appearing on a screen. > > > > Obviously, they don't make anyone anything. > > > > > thanks for trying to answer for your buddy but.. > > words " on " a screen > > hmmm. > > words + a screen... > > = 2 " things " ..several of those word 'things' AND a screen. All of which are inside me. > so that's one thing positioned " on " the " other " thing. > > uh huh.. Conceptuaptauptapoooptly speaking ;-p. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Werner - > > > > > > > > > > One makes oneself into two when dividing into subject located separately from object. > > > > > > > > > > It is the project called " survival in time. " > > > > > > > > > > One will keep on being two, until one understands and resolves the issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > what does one make oneself into when one says: > > > > > > > > " One makes oneself into two.. > > > > > > > > when dividing into subject located separately from object. " > > > > > > > > an ass maybe? > > > > > > Nothing at all... just words appearing on a screen. > > > > > > Obviously, they don't make anyone anything. > > > > > > > > > > thanks for trying to answer for your buddy but.. > > > > words " on " a screen > > > > hmmm. > > > > words + a screen... > > > > = 2 " things " ..several of those word 'things' AND a screen. (tim): > All of which are inside me. (.b b.b.): so there is a " you " .. and relative to that " you " there is: a. an inside. and.. b. an outside. and the referents that are " inside " of you.. are designate as " All " .. as opposed to the " other than All " . and somehow " you " believe you have delineated a 'One " . uh huh. > > so that's one thing positioned " on " the " other " thing. > > > > uh huh.. (tim): > Conceptuaptauptapoooptly speaking ;-p. ((.b b.b.): that's a poopy concept alrighty. for a no-self kind of guy that you believe yourself to be.. you sure feel the need to be " right " .. or at least justify your " self " a lot. did you ever think about that? LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Werner - > > > > > > > > > > > > One makes oneself into two when dividing into subject located separately from object. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the project called " survival in time. " > > > > > > > > > > > > One will keep on being two, until one understands and resolves the issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what does one make oneself into when one says: > > > > > > > > > > " One makes oneself into two.. > > > > > > > > > > when dividing into subject located separately from object. " > > > > > > > > > > an ass maybe? > > > > > > > > Nothing at all... just words appearing on a screen. > > > > > > > > Obviously, they don't make anyone anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks for trying to answer for your buddy but.. > > > > > > words " on " a screen > > > > > > hmmm. > > > > > > words + a screen... > > > > > > = 2 " things " ..several of those word 'things' AND a screen. > > > > > > (tim): > > > All of which are inside me. > > > > (.b b.b.): > > so there is a " you " .. > > and relative to that " you " there is: > > a. an inside. > > and.. > > b. an outside. Nope. Everything is inside, therefore there is no inside or outside. Don't take pointers literally, they aren't intended that way. Words suggest the untrue. Look where they're pointing and drop 'em, don't " stare " at the words. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Werner - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One makes oneself into two when dividing into subject located separately from object. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the project called " survival in time. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One will keep on being two, until one understands and resolves the issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what does one make oneself into when one says: > > > > > > > > > > > > " One makes oneself into two.. > > > > > > > > > > > > when dividing into subject located separately from object. " > > > > > > > > > > > > an ass maybe? > > > > > > > > > > Nothing at all... just words appearing on a screen. > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, they don't make anyone anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks for trying to answer for your buddy but.. > > > > > > > > words " on " a screen > > > > > > > > hmmm. > > > > > > > > words + a screen... > > > > > > > > = 2 " things " ..several of those word 'things' AND a screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > (tim): > > > > > All of which are inside me. > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.): > > > > so there is a " you " .. > > > > and relative to that " you " there is: > > > > a. an inside. > > > > and.. > > > > b. an outside. > > Nope. Everything is inside, therefore there is no inside or outside. > > Don't take pointers literally, they aren't intended that way. > > Words suggest the untrue. > > Look where they're pointing and drop 'em, don't " stare " at the words. ROFLMAO! you're completely helpless. " Everything is inside " ..ah ah ah haha... ......hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa! good one.. no no wait.. good " One " .. hahahaha.. get it? no wait.. " get " " IT? LOL! and where are you seeing that from? oh right..inside. and inside doesn't mean that there's anything but Inside.. that's the inside skinny. right right right right right... have another Colt 45 tim. slurp that stuff inside the bottle down to your own inside(s).. which are both as ONE inside the only BIG inside. i think you better stop staring at things bub. you're too much! a bit tipsy but that's why all the world loves a drunk. the most profound thing about your nonsense.. is the profound level of inanity it expresses. and the profound disbelief that you could possibly think it's cool. :-) ..b b.b. p.s. hahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarghhhhhhhhhh..hahaha!!!!! thanks timmy. i needed this giggle.. almost as much as you need people to believe you. you delivered that needed laugh.. but i can't deliver anything.. as far as your ridiculous need is concerned. not that my need to laugh isn't a ridiculous need. it is. indeed it's a ridiculous need of hearing the ridiculous. but your ridiculous need is asking for agreement.. that it be fulfilled with a belief... that the ridiculous is NOT ridiculous.. no can do sport. but you give me lots of material for comedic relief. thanks again and keep drinkin' & dreamin' dude. you're a gas when you're gassed. :-) [.bx3] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Werner - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One makes oneself into two when dividing into subject located separately from object. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the project called " survival in time. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One will keep on being two, until one understands and resolves the issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what does one make oneself into when one says: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " One makes oneself into two.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when dividing into subject located separately from object. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an ass maybe? > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing at all... just words appearing on a screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, they don't make anyone anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks for trying to answer for your buddy but.. > > > > > > > > > > words " on " a screen > > > > > > > > > > hmmm. > > > > > > > > > > words + a screen... > > > > > > > > > > = 2 " things " ..several of those word 'things' AND a screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (tim): > > > > > > > All of which are inside me. > > > > > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.): > > > > > > so there is a " you " .. > > > > > > and relative to that " you " there is: > > > > > > a. an inside. > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > b. an outside. > > > > Nope. Everything is inside, therefore there is no inside or outside. > > > > Don't take pointers literally, they aren't intended that way. > > > > Words suggest the untrue. > > > > Look where they're pointing and drop 'em, don't " stare " at the words. > > > > ROFLMAO! > > you're completely helpless. Certainly so -- completely helpless. As are 'you' ;-). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Werner - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One makes oneself into two when dividing into subject located separately from object. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the project called " survival in time. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One will keep on being two, until one understands and resolves the issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what does one make oneself into when one says: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " One makes oneself into two.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when dividing into subject located separately from object. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an ass maybe? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing at all... just words appearing on a screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, they don't make anyone anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks for trying to answer for your buddy but.. > > > > > > > > > > > > words " on " a screen > > > > > > > > > > > > hmmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > words + a screen... > > > > > > > > > > > > = 2 " things " ..several of those word 'things' AND a screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (tim): > > > > > > > > > All of which are inside me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.): > > > > > > > > so there is a " you " .. > > > > > > > > and relative to that " you " there is: > > > > > > > > a. an inside. > > > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > > > b. an outside. > > > > > > Nope. Everything is inside, therefore there is no inside or outside. > > > > > > Don't take pointers literally, they aren't intended that way. > > > > > > Words suggest the untrue. > > > > > > Look where they're pointing and drop 'em, don't " stare " at the words. > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > you're completely helpless. > > Certainly so -- completely helpless. > > As are 'you' ;-). > P.S. might as well add " hopeless " , while you're at it. And " nobody " . And " nothing " . And " nowhere " . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Werner - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One makes oneself into two when dividing into subject located separately from object. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the project called " survival in time. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One will keep on being two, until one understands and resolves the issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what does one make oneself into when one says: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " One makes oneself into two.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when dividing into subject located separately from object. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an ass maybe? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing at all... just words appearing on a screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, they don't make anyone anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks for trying to answer for your buddy but.. > > > > > > > > > > > > words " on " a screen > > > > > > > > > > > > hmmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > words + a screen... > > > > > > > > > > > > = 2 " things " ..several of those word 'things' AND a screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (tim): > > > > > > > > > All of which are inside me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.): > > > > > > > > so there is a " you " .. > > > > > > > > and relative to that " you " there is: > > > > > > > > a. an inside. > > > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > > > b. an outside. > > > > > > Nope. Everything is inside, therefore there is no inside or outside. > > > > > > Don't take pointers literally, they aren't intended that way. > > > > > > Words suggest the untrue. > > > > > > Look where they're pointing and drop 'em, don't " stare " at the words. > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > you're completely helpless. > > Certainly so -- completely helpless. > > As are 'you' ;-). and you're helpless at stopping yourself.. from cutting it off.. at a point beyond which you dare not go. you can't help that because it's inside you to hide from reality. which of course is also inside you. how is it that anything is helpless? how can help be given or received if all is One? bottoms up guy! it all makes sense then right? right! LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Werner - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One makes oneself into two when dividing into subject located separately from object. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the project called " survival in time. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One will keep on being two, until one understands and resolves the issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what does one make oneself into when one says: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " One makes oneself into two.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when dividing into subject located separately from object. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an ass maybe? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing at all... just words appearing on a screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, they don't make anyone anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks for trying to answer for your buddy but.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > words " on " a screen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hmmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > words + a screen... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > = 2 " things " ..several of those word 'things' AND a screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (tim): > > > > > > > > > > > All of which are inside me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.): > > > > > > > > > > so there is a " you " .. > > > > > > > > > > and relative to that " you " there is: > > > > > > > > > > a. an inside. > > > > > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > > > > > b. an outside. > > > > > > > > Nope. Everything is inside, therefore there is no inside or outside. > > > > > > > > Don't take pointers literally, they aren't intended that way. > > > > > > > > Words suggest the untrue. > > > > > > > > Look where they're pointing and drop 'em, don't " stare " at the words. > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > you're completely helpless. > > > > Certainly so -- completely helpless. > > > > As are 'you' ;-). > > > and you're helpless at stopping yourself.. > > from cutting it off.. > > at a point beyond which you dare not go. Yes, no help for any of it. No way of cutting anything off, or holding onto anything. Danger, Will Robinson, Danger... beep, beep, beep ;-). Peace, bro... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Dan, > > > > Deceiving oneself ? > > > > Who is the deceiver and who is oneself ? Are there two Dans or Werners ? > > Hi Werner - > > One makes oneself into two when dividing into subject located separately from object. > Dan, no-one makes oneself into two. It is thought which is the maker-in-two. > It is the project called " survival in time. " > > One will keep on being two, until one understands and resolves the issue. Unitl one understands ? There is no 'until'. Either there is understanding or there is no understanding. And if there is understanding then it is sudden, without any time involved. Werner > > > -- Dan > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Werner - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One makes oneself into two when dividing into subject located separately from object. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the project called " survival in time. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One will keep on being two, until one understands and resolves the issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what does one make oneself into when one says: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " One makes oneself into two.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when dividing into subject located separately from object. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an ass maybe? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing at all... just words appearing on a screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, they don't make anyone anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks for trying to answer for your buddy but.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > words " on " a screen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hmmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > words + a screen... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > = 2 " things " ..several of those word 'things' AND a screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (tim): > > > > > > > > > > > > > All of which are inside me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.): > > > > > > > > > > > > so there is a " you " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > and relative to that " you " there is: > > > > > > > > > > > > a. an inside. > > > > > > > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > > > > > > > b. an outside. > > > > > > > > > > Nope. Everything is inside, therefore there is no inside or outside. > > > > > > > > > > Don't take pointers literally, they aren't intended that way. > > > > > > > > > > Words suggest the untrue. > > > > > > > > > > Look where they're pointing and drop 'em, don't " stare " at the words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > you're completely helpless. > > > > > > Certainly so -- completely helpless. > > > > > > As are 'you' ;-). > > > > > > and you're helpless at stopping yourself.. > > > > from cutting it off.. > > > > at a point beyond which you dare not go. > > Yes, no help for any of it. > > No way of cutting anything off, or holding onto anything. > > Danger, Will Robinson, Danger... beep, beep, beep ;-). > > Peace, bro... yep. sure thing. yawn. better than counting sheep. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Werner - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One makes oneself into two when dividing into subject located separately from object. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the project called " survival in time. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One will keep on being two, until one understands and resolves the issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what does one make oneself into when one says: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " One makes oneself into two.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when dividing into subject located separately from object. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an ass maybe? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing at all... just words appearing on a screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, they don't make anyone anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks for trying to answer for your buddy but.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > words " on " a screen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hmmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > words + a screen... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > = 2 " things " ..several of those word 'things' AND a screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (tim): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All of which are inside me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so there is a " you " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and relative to that " you " there is: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a. an inside. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b. an outside. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nope. Everything is inside, therefore there is no inside or outside. > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't take pointers literally, they aren't intended that way. > > > > > > > > > > > > Words suggest the untrue. > > > > > > > > > > > > Look where they're pointing and drop 'em, don't " stare " at the words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > you're completely helpless. > > > > > > > > Certainly so -- completely helpless. > > > > > > > > As are 'you' ;-). > > > > > > > > > and you're helpless at stopping yourself.. > > > > > > from cutting it off.. > > > > > > at a point beyond which you dare not go. > > > > Yes, no help for any of it. > > > > No way of cutting anything off, or holding onto anything. > > > > Danger, Will Robinson, Danger... beep, beep, beep ;-). > > > > Peace, bro... > > > yep. > > sure thing. > > yawn. > > better than counting sheep. > > .b b.b. All the stuff ya find the most boring is stuff that, if looked at closely, could remove the ability to be bored. Ahh well :-p. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > Deceiving oneself ? > > > > > > Who is the deceiver and who is oneself ? Are there two Dans or Werners ? > > > > Hi Werner - > > > > One makes oneself into two when dividing into subject located separately from object. > > > > > Dan, no-one makes oneself into two. It is thought which is the maker-in-two. > > > > It is the project called " survival in time. " > > > > One will keep on being two, until one understands and resolves the issue. > > > Unitl one understands ? > > There is no 'until'. Either there is understanding or there is no understanding. And if there is understanding then it is sudden, without any time involved. > > Werner There is no " if. " " If " involves time. So, one knowing is timeless. There is no other being known, and no self apart from the knowing. No brain doing it. There is simple knowing. And you, my friend, will not be fooled by hitting your head against a wall any longer. - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > > > Deceiving oneself ? > > > > > > > > Who is the deceiver and who is oneself ? Are there two Dans or Werners ? > > > > > > Hi Werner - > > > > > > One makes oneself into two when dividing into subject located separately from object. > > > > > > > > > Dan, no-one makes oneself into two. It is thought which is the maker-in-two. > > > > > > > It is the project called " survival in time. " > > > > > > One will keep on being two, until one understands and resolves the issue. > > > > > > Unitl one understands ? > > > > There is no 'until'. Either there is understanding or there is no understanding. And if there is understanding then it is sudden, without any time involved. > > > > Werner > > There is no " if. " > > " If " involves time. > > So, one knowing is timeless. > > There is no other being known, and no self apart from the knowing. > > No brain doing it. > > There is simple knowing. > > And you, my friend, will not be fooled by hitting your head against a wall any longer. Don't call me your friend, you arrogant bastad. Werner > > - D - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > > > > > Deceiving oneself ? > > > > > > > > > > Who is the deceiver and who is oneself ? Are there two Dans or Werners ? > > > > > > > > Hi Werner - > > > > > > > > One makes oneself into two when dividing into subject located separately from object. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, no-one makes oneself into two. It is thought which is the maker-in-two. > > > > > > > > > > It is the project called " survival in time. " > > > > > > > > One will keep on being two, until one understands and resolves the issue. > > > > > > > > > Unitl one understands ? > > > > > > There is no 'until'. Either there is understanding or there is no understanding. And if there is understanding then it is sudden, without any time involved. > > > > > > Werner > > > > There is no " if. " > > > > " If " involves time. > > > > So, one knowing is timeless. > > > > There is no other being known, and no self apart from the knowing. > > > > No brain doing it. > > > > There is simple knowing. > > > > And you, my friend, will not be fooled by hitting your head against a wall any longer. > > > Don't call me your friend, you arrogant bastad. > > Werner Calm down, my friend. Take a deep breath ;-). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Werner - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One makes oneself into two when dividing into subject located separately from object. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the project called " survival in time. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One will keep on being two, until one understands and resolves the issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what does one make oneself into when one says: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " One makes oneself into two.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when dividing into subject located separately from object. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an ass maybe? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing at all... just words appearing on a screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, they don't make anyone anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks for trying to answer for your buddy but.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > words " on " a screen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hmmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > words + a screen... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > = 2 " things " ..several of those word 'things' AND a screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (tim): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All of which are inside me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so there is a " you " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and relative to that " you " there is: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a. an inside. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b. an outside. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nope. Everything is inside, therefore there is no inside or outside. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't take pointers literally, they aren't intended that way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words suggest the untrue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Look where they're pointing and drop 'em, don't " stare " at the words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > > you're completely helpless. > > > > > > > > > > Certainly so -- completely helpless. > > > > > > > > > > As are 'you' ;-). > > > > > > > > > > > > and you're helpless at stopping yourself.. > > > > > > > > from cutting it off.. > > > > > > > > at a point beyond which you dare not go. > > > > > > Yes, no help for any of it. > > > > > > No way of cutting anything off, or holding onto anything. > > > > > > Danger, Will Robinson, Danger... beep, beep, beep ;-). > > > > > > Peace, bro... > > > > > > yep. > > > > sure thing. > > > > yawn. > > > > better than counting sheep. > > > > .b b.b. > > All the stuff ya find the most boring is stuff that, if looked at closely, could remove the ability to be bored. > > Ahh well :-p. oh you betchy! deeeeeeeeeep dude. how can you stand yerself whenz yer so schmart and stuff. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Werner - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One makes oneself into two when dividing into subject located separately from object. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the project called " survival in time. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One will keep on being two, until one understands and resolves the issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what does one make oneself into when one says: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " One makes oneself into two.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when dividing into subject located separately from object. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an ass maybe? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing at all... just words appearing on a screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, they don't make anyone anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks for trying to answer for your buddy but.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > words " on " a screen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hmmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > words + a screen... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > = 2 " things " ..several of those word 'things' AND a screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (tim): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All of which are inside me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so there is a " you " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and relative to that " you " there is: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a. an inside. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b. an outside. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nope. Everything is inside, therefore there is no inside or outside. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't take pointers literally, they aren't intended that way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words suggest the untrue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Look where they're pointing and drop 'em, don't " stare " at the words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're completely helpless. > > > > > > > > > > > > Certainly so -- completely helpless. > > > > > > > > > > > > As are 'you' ;-). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and you're helpless at stopping yourself.. > > > > > > > > > > from cutting it off.. > > > > > > > > > > at a point beyond which you dare not go. > > > > > > > > Yes, no help for any of it. > > > > > > > > No way of cutting anything off, or holding onto anything. > > > > > > > > Danger, Will Robinson, Danger... beep, beep, beep ;-). > > > > > > > > Peace, bro... > > > > > > > > > yep. > > > > > > sure thing. > > > > > > yawn. > > > > > > better than counting sheep. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > All the stuff ya find the most boring is stuff that, if looked at closely, could remove the ability to be bored. > > > > Ahh well :-p. > > > oh you betchy! > > deeeeeeeeeep dude. > > how can you stand yerself whenz yer so schmart and stuff. > > LOL! > > .b b.b. > Hey... ain't I lucky that I ain't around anywhere? ;-). I seem to re-arise every time the word " I " gets typed, and disappear with the next word. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > > > > > > > Deceiving oneself ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Who is the deceiver and who is oneself ? Are there two Dans or Werners ? > > > > > > > > > > Hi Werner - > > > > > > > > > > One makes oneself into two when dividing into subject located separately from object. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, no-one makes oneself into two. It is thought which is the maker-in-two. > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the project called " survival in time. " > > > > > > > > > > One will keep on being two, until one understands and resolves the issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > Unitl one understands ? > > > > > > > > There is no 'until'. Either there is understanding or there is no understanding. And if there is understanding then it is sudden, without any time involved. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > There is no " if. " > > > > > > " If " involves time. > > > > > > So, one knowing is timeless. > > > > > > There is no other being known, and no self apart from the knowing. > > > > > > No brain doing it. > > > > > > There is simple knowing. > > > > > > And you, my friend, will not be fooled by hitting your head against a wall any longer. > > > > > > Don't call me your friend, you arrogant bastad. > > > > Werner > > Calm down, my friend. Take a deep breath ;-). > Ay, Gossiper-Tim, Now Dan definitely has underststood that you want to be his friend. Werner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deceiving oneself ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who is the deceiver and who is oneself ? Are there two Dans or Werners ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Werner - > > > > > > > > > > > > One makes oneself into two when dividing into subject located separately from object. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, no-one makes oneself into two. It is thought which is the maker-in-two. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the project called " survival in time. " > > > > > > > > > > > > One will keep on being two, until one understands and resolves the issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unitl one understands ? > > > > > > > > > > There is no 'until'. Either there is understanding or there is no understanding. And if there is understanding then it is sudden, without any time involved. > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > There is no " if. " > > > > > > > > " If " involves time. > > > > > > > > So, one knowing is timeless. > > > > > > > > There is no other being known, and no self apart from the knowing. > > > > > > > > No brain doing it. > > > > > > > > There is simple knowing. > > > > > > > > And you, my friend, will not be fooled by hitting your head against a wall any longer. > > > > > > > > > Don't call me your friend, you arrogant bastad. > > > > > > Werner > > > > Calm down, my friend. Take a deep breath ;-). > > > > > Ay, Gossiper-Tim, > > Now Dan definitely has underststood that you want to be his friend. > > Werner > Dan is a 'friend' by default, afaic. He never insults, defends, attacks, accuses, flames, etc. No reason not to be his friend, in other words. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > > > > > Deceiving oneself ? > > > > > > > > > > Who is the deceiver and who is oneself ? Are there two Dans or Werners ? > > > > > > > > Hi Werner - > > > > > > > > One makes oneself into two when dividing into subject located separately from object. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, no-one makes oneself into two. It is thought which is the maker-in-two. > > > > > > > > > > It is the project called " survival in time. " > > > > > > > > One will keep on being two, until one understands and resolves the issue. > > > > > > > > > Unitl one understands ? > > > > > > There is no 'until'. Either there is understanding or there is no understanding. And if there is understanding then it is sudden, without any time involved. > > > > > > Werner > > > > There is no " if. " > > > > " If " involves time. > > > > So, one knowing is timeless. > > > > There is no other being known, and no self apart from the knowing. > > > > No brain doing it. > > > > There is simple knowing. > > > > And you, my friend, will not be fooled by hitting your head against a wall any longer. > > > Don't call me your friend, you arrogant bastad. > > Werner what's a bastad? arrogant huh? hmmmmmmm? ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > > > > > > > Deceiving oneself ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Who is the deceiver and who is oneself ? Are there two Dans or Werners ? > > > > > > > > > > Hi Werner - > > > > > > > > > > One makes oneself into two when dividing into subject located separately from object. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, no-one makes oneself into two. It is thought which is the maker-in-two. > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the project called " survival in time. " > > > > > > > > > > One will keep on being two, until one understands and resolves the issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > Unitl one understands ? > > > > > > > > There is no 'until'. Either there is understanding or there is no understanding. And if there is understanding then it is sudden, without any time involved. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > There is no " if. " > > > > > > " If " involves time. > > > > > > So, one knowing is timeless. > > > > > > There is no other being known, and no self apart from the knowing. > > > > > > No brain doing it. > > > > > > There is simple knowing. > > > > > > And you, my friend, will not be fooled by hitting your head against a wall any longer. > > > > > > Don't call me your friend, you arrogant bastad. > > > > Werner > > Calm down, my friend. Take a deep breath ;-). i thought you would be glad getting on the inside of him. he's inside you. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Werner - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One makes oneself into two when dividing into subject located separately from object. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the project called " survival in time. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One will keep on being two, until one understands and resolves the issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what does one make oneself into when one says: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " One makes oneself into two.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when dividing into subject located separately from object. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an ass maybe? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing at all... just words appearing on a screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, they don't make anyone anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks for trying to answer for your buddy but.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > words " on " a screen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hmmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > words + a screen... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > = 2 " things " ..several of those word 'things' AND a screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (tim): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All of which are inside me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (.b b.b.): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so there is a " you " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and relative to that " you " there is: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a. an inside. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b. an outside. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nope. Everything is inside, therefore there is no inside or outside. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't take pointers literally, they aren't intended that way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words suggest the untrue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Look where they're pointing and drop 'em, don't " stare " at the words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're completely helpless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Certainly so -- completely helpless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As are 'you' ;-). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and you're helpless at stopping yourself.. > > > > > > > > > > > > from cutting it off.. > > > > > > > > > > > > at a point beyond which you dare not go. > > > > > > > > > > Yes, no help for any of it. > > > > > > > > > > No way of cutting anything off, or holding onto anything. > > > > > > > > > > Danger, Will Robinson, Danger... beep, beep, beep ;-). > > > > > > > > > > Peace, bro... > > > > > > > > > > > > yep. > > > > > > > > sure thing. > > > > > > > > yawn. > > > > > > > > better than counting sheep. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > All the stuff ya find the most boring is stuff that, if looked at closely, could remove the ability to be bored. > > > > > > Ahh well :-p. > > > > > > oh you betchy! > > > > deeeeeeeeeep dude. > > > > how can you stand yerself whenz yer so schmart and stuff. > > > > LOL! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Hey... ain't I lucky that I ain't around anywhere? ;-). > > I seem to re-arise every time the word " I " gets typed, and disappear with the next word. and you capitalize " I " because you think you're important. and you're so full of feathers it's funny. have another cold one tim. you're getting a nice buzz on. show us your stuff Biff! :-) ..b b.b. 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Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > and you capitalize " I " because you think you're important. > > and you're so full of feathers it's funny. True. I'm very ignorant and very small. I mean nothing. > have another cold one tim. > > you're getting a nice buzz on. Not off root beer ;-). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deceiving oneself ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who is the deceiver and who is oneself ? Are there two Dans or Werners ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Werner - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One makes oneself into two when dividing into subject located separately from object. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, no-one makes oneself into two. It is thought which is the maker-in-two. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the project called " survival in time. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One will keep on being two, until one understands and resolves the issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unitl one understands ? > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no 'until'. Either there is understanding or there is no understanding. And if there is understanding then it is sudden, without any time involved. > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > There is no " if. " > > > > > > > > > > " If " involves time. > > > > > > > > > > So, one knowing is timeless. > > > > > > > > > > There is no other being known, and no self apart from the knowing. > > > > > > > > > > No brain doing it. > > > > > > > > > > There is simple knowing. > > > > > > > > > > And you, my friend, will not be fooled by hitting your head against a wall any longer. > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't call me your friend, you arrogant bastad. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > Calm down, my friend. Take a deep breath ;-). > > > > > > > > > Ay, Gossiper-Tim, > > > > Now Dan definitely has underststood that you want to be his friend. > > > > Werner > > > > Dan is a 'friend' by default, afaic. He never insults, defends, attacks, accuses, flames, etc. No reason not to be his friend, in other words. if " anyone " EVER makes you feel: insulted..in need of defending your " self " .. feel like you're under attack.. like you're being accused of anything... like you're being flamed etc. which from this list and attitude in naming all of the above.. & from your evident and obvious obsession over same.. which you are so focused on spelling out and using as explanation.. as to why someone is or is not " friendly " .. or towards whom you feel friendly or " in touch " .. you plainly think too goddamn much about yourself.. and your misplaced self righteous importance. this belies the fact that you think.. that you should be shown respect and deference. what an Ego. get over yourself tim and chill out. i guess you feel that you must feel that someone is worthy of you. what a joke. you need to look for reasons to have or to not have or consider.. someone as a friend... that's a shame. almost pitiable. but not really. who cares. it's not important to anyone but you. and your self is even less important to any other self. that's how both selves and elves work. neither one are real anyway. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > and you capitalize " I " because you think you're important. > > > > and you're so full of feathers it's funny. > > True. I'm very ignorant and very small. I mean nothing. > > > have another cold one tim. > > > > you're getting a nice buzz on. > > Not off root beer ;-). well from the way you talk tim.. any cold one will do.. it's just for atmosphere. you don't need alcohol to get abuzz with a buzz on. you never aren't buzzed. not from the sounds of the things you say. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deceiving oneself ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who is the deceiver and who is oneself ? Are there two Dans or Werners ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Werner - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One makes oneself into two when dividing into subject located separately from object. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, no-one makes oneself into two. It is thought which is the maker-in-two. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the project called " survival in time. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One will keep on being two, until one understands and resolves the issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unitl one understands ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no 'until'. Either there is understanding or there is no understanding. And if there is understanding then it is sudden, without any time involved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no " if. " > > > > > > > > > > > > " If " involves time. > > > > > > > > > > > > So, one knowing is timeless. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no other being known, and no self apart from the knowing. > > > > > > > > > > > > No brain doing it. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is simple knowing. > > > > > > > > > > > > And you, my friend, will not be fooled by hitting your head against a wall any longer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't call me your friend, you arrogant bastad. > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > Calm down, my friend. Take a deep breath ;-). > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ay, Gossiper-Tim, > > > > > > Now Dan definitely has underststood that you want to be his friend. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > Dan is a 'friend' by default, afaic. He never insults, defends, attacks, accuses, flames, etc. No reason not to be his friend, in other words. > > > if " anyone " EVER makes you feel: > > insulted..in need of defending your " self " .. > > feel like you're under attack.. > > like you're being accused of anything... > > like you're being flamed etc. > > which from this list and attitude in naming all of the above.. > > & from your evident and obvious obsession over same.. > > which you are so focused on spelling out and using as explanation.. > > as to why someone is or is not " friendly " .. > > or towards whom you feel friendly or " in touch " .. > > you plainly think too goddamn much about yourself.. Oh, come now... some folks are interesting to talk to, some aren't. Some have something 'worthy' to say, some don't. That has nothing to do with thinking of oneself at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
