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Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote:

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Is " it " like that?

 

Does " it " like that?

 

Is " it " raining outside?

 

Shhhhhh....

 

it.

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Em 13/10/2009 17:45, Tim G. < fewtch > escreveu:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " toombaru " .> wrote:

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Is " it " like that?

 

Does " it " like that?

 

Is " it " raining outside?

 

Shhhhhh....

 

it.

-tim-

 

Well...I guess if one writes, one writes about something, is it not?

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , inandor <inandor wrote:

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> Well...I guess if one writes, one writes about something, is it not?

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" Writing " just arises, eh? One doesn't sit and plan out what to write (unless

that happens, I s'pose).

 

And so what is doing the writing... is it the " I " that arises *as* the writing,

as part of the writing, as in saying " I am writing " ? Obviously not.

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I enjoy not observing the observer that isn't there.

 

It's not like anything.

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote:

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Em 13/10/2009 18:19, Tim G. < fewtch > escreveu:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , inandor > wrote:

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> Well...I guess if one writes, one writes about something, is it not?

> -geo-

 

" Writing " just arises, eh? One doesn't sit and plan out what to write (unless

that happens, I s'pose).

 

And so what is doing the writing... is it the " I " that arises *as* the writing,

as part of the writing, as in saying " I am writing " ? Obviously not.

-t-

 

Did he imply " I " am writing?

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote:

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it's like a toomit trying to get out of self and Self...

 

:)

 

 

Marc

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Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33

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Toomit... heheheh ;-).

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Toomit... heheheh ;-).

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toomit are just perfectly stupid.....

 

without knowing anything about

 

;)

 

 

Marc

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Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33

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> without knowing anything about

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Ps: should be Toomits...

 

some of them name themself " Dan " ....etc

 

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Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33

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> > > > it's like a toomit trying to get out of self and Self...

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> Ps: should be Toomits...

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> some of them name themself " Dan " ....etc

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> ;)

 

 

Marco strikes again.

 

How awesome is his repartee.

 

Not.

 

 

- D -

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33@> wrote:

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> > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain@> wrote:

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> > > > > > It's like trying to find the other side of the earth by walking

East.

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> > > > > > toombaru

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> > > > > it's like a toomit trying to get out of self and Self...

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> > > > Toomit... heheheh ;-).

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> > > without knowing anything about

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> > > Marc

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> > Ps: should be Toomits...

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> > some of them name themself " Dan " ....etc

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> Marco strikes again.

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> How awesome is his repartee.

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> Not.

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> - D -

 

No 'better' or 'worse' than any other repartee, really.

 

Awareness seems to enjoy blabbering, while pretending something/one 'else'

exists.... eh? :-p.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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snippity snippity snap

 

 

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> No 'better' or 'worse' than any other repartee, really.

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> Awareness seems to enjoy blabbering, while pretending something/one 'else'

exists.... eh? :-p.

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Awareness seems to be doing everything, nothing and something else.

 

~A

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Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana wrote:

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> Awareness seems to be doing everything, nothing and something else.

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> ~A

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Awareness is doing nothing simply because it doesn't exist.

 

But thought clains to be the owner of awarenes and to be the doer.

 

Werner

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Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote:

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> Awareness is doing nothing simply because it doesn't exist.

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> Werner

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Well......at least it's got that going for it.

 

 

:-0

 

 

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain@> wrote:

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> > > > > > it's like a toomit trying to get out of self and Self...

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> > > > > Toomit... heheheh ;-).

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> > > > toomit are just perfectly stupid.....

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> > > > without knowing anything about

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> > > > Marc

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> > > Ps: should be Toomits...

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> > > some of them name themself " Dan " ....etc

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> > Marco strikes again.

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> > How awesome is his repartee.

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> No 'better' or 'worse' than any other repartee, really.

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> Awareness seems to enjoy blabbering, while pretending something/one 'else'

exists.... eh? :-p.

 

 

It's silly to suggest that all repartee is equal.

 

The idea that there is some Awareness doing everything isn't tenable, in my

opinion - it's just another version of an imaginary separable entity - just on a

" really big " scale.

 

If you can't differentiate between self-centered childish behavior, and adult

conversation, then I'm not sure what to tell you to clear that up for you.

 

 

- D -

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Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana wrote:

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> > No 'better' or 'worse' than any other repartee, really.

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> > Awareness seems to enjoy blabbering, while pretending something/one 'else'

exists.... eh? :-p.

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> Awareness seems to be doing everything, nothing and something else.

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> ~A

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Nonsense.

 

There is no " Awareness " doing everything.

 

That's purely make-believe fantasy and projection.

 

 

- D -

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> > > No 'better' or 'worse' than any other repartee, really.

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> > > Awareness seems to enjoy blabbering, while pretending something/one 'else'

exists.... eh? :-p.

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> > Awareness seems to be doing everything, nothing and something else.

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> > ~A

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> Nonsense.

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> There is no " Awareness " doing everything.

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> That's purely make-believe fantasy and projection.

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> - D -

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Yes Dan, true,

 

And if you do the next step seeing how awareness is created by the brain yo will

see that awareness does not exist:

 

The firing of memory cells within the neuronal netweork is what we experience as

awareness.

 

To use a metaphor for that firing of memory cells one could say that awareness

(or consciousness) is a flow of contents of those atcivated memory cells and

that flow we call awareness. But awareness is neither a function nor a state. It

is just millions of 'sparkles' happening in the neuronal network.

 

Werner

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Nisargadatta

Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:54 PM

Re: It's LIke......

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana@> wrote:

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> > > No 'better' or 'worse' than any other repartee, really.

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> > > Awareness seems to enjoy blabbering, while pretending something/one

> > > 'else' exists.... eh? :-p.

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> > Awareness seems to be doing everything, nothing and something else.

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> > ~A

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> Nonsense.

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> There is no " Awareness " doing everything.

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> That's purely make-believe fantasy and projection.

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> - D -

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Yes Dan, true,

 

And if you do the next step seeing how awareness is created by the brain you

will see that awareness does not exis:

 

The firing of memory cells within the neuronal netweork is what we

experience as awareness.

 

To use a metaphor for that firing of memory cells one could say that

awareness (or consciousness) is a flow of contents of atcivated memory cells

which we call awareness. But awareness is nither a function nor a state. It

is just millions of 'sparkeles' happening in the neuronal network.

 

Werner

 

And the brain, the brain cels, the firing..... are all not awareness because

they are the source of awareness. Which is the next step werner?

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:54 PM

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> > > > No 'better' or 'worse' than any other repartee, really.

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> > > > Awareness seems to enjoy blabbering, while pretending something/one

> > > > 'else' exists.... eh? :-p.

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> > >

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> > > Awareness seems to be doing everything, nothing and something else.

> > >

> > > ~A

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> > Nonsense.

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> > There is no " Awareness " doing everything.

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> > That's purely make-believe fantasy and projection.

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> > - D -

 

 

Nonsense Dan.

 

I suppose awareness doesn't type on a keyboard, read the screen or gather its

*thoughts*.

 

Call it nothing call it everything, including make-believe fantasy and

projection, but you can't escape its reality, even if it seems

arbitrary and ephemeral.

 

~A

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> Yes Dan, true,

>

> And if you do the next step seeing how awareness is created by the brain you

> will see that awareness does not exis:

>

> The firing of memory cells within the neuronal netweork is what we

> experience as awareness.

>

> To use a metaphor for that firing of memory cells one could say that

> awareness (or consciousness) is a flow of contents of atcivated memory cells

> which we call awareness. But awareness is nither a function nor a state. It

> is just millions of 'sparkeles' happening in the neuronal network.

>

> Werner

>

> And the brain, the brain cels, the firing..... are all not awareness because

> they are the source of awareness. Which is the next step werner?

> -geo-

>

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:54 PM

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

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> > Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana@> wrote:

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> > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

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> > > snippity snippity snap

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> > > >

> > > > No 'better' or 'worse' than any other repartee, really.

> > > >

> > > > Awareness seems to enjoy blabbering, while pretending something/one

> > > > 'else' exists.... eh? :-p.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Awareness seems to be doing everything, nothing and something else.

> > >

> > > ~A

> > >

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> > Nonsense.

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> > There is no " Awareness " doing everything.

> >

> > That's purely make-believe fantasy and projection.

> >

> >

> > - D -

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> Yes Dan, true,

>

> And if you do the next step seeing how awareness is created by the brain you

> will see that awareness does not exis:

>

> The firing of memory cells within the neuronal netweork is what we

> experience as awareness.

>

> To use a metaphor for that firing of memory cells one could say that

> awareness (or consciousness) is a flow of contents of atcivated memory cells

> which we call awareness. But awareness is nither a function nor a state. It

> is just millions of 'sparkeles' happening in the neuronal network.

>

> Werner

>

> And the brain, the brain cels, the firing..... are all not awareness because

> they are the source of awareness. Which is the next step werner?

> -geo-

>

 

 

Geo, I would be happy to answer your question as long as you are really and

seriously interested.

 

But as long you are only interest is to find some faults in what is written

then you are just a fault-finder but not a companion one could walk together

with and share the adventures of the walk.

 

Werner

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Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:25 PM

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:54 PM

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

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> > Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana@> wrote:

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> > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

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> > > snippity snippity snap

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> > >

> > > >

> > > > No 'better' or 'worse' than any other repartee, really.

> > > >

> > > > Awareness seems to enjoy blabbering, while pretending something/one

> > > > 'else' exists.... eh? :-p.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Awareness seems to be doing everything, nothing and something else.

> > >

> > > ~A

> > >

> >

> > Nonsense.

> >

> > There is no " Awareness " doing everything.

> >

> > That's purely make-believe fantasy and projection.

> >

> >

> > - D -

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>

> Yes Dan, true,

>

> And if you do the next step seeing how awareness is created by the brain

> you

> will see that awareness does not exis:

>

> The firing of memory cells within the neuronal netweork is what we

> experience as awareness.

>

> To use a metaphor for that firing of memory cells one could say that

> awareness (or consciousness) is a flow of contents of atcivated memory

> cells

> which we call awareness. But awareness is nither a function nor a state.

> It

> is just millions of 'sparkeles' happening in the neuronal network.

>

> Werner

>

> And the brain, the brain cels, the firing..... are all not awareness

> because

> they are the source of awareness. Which is the next step werner?

> -geo-

>

 

Geo, I would be happy to answer your question as long as you are really and

seriously interested.

 

But as long you are only interest is to find some faults in what is written

then you are just a fault-finder but not a companion one could walk together

with and share the adventures of the walk.

 

Werner

 

If the brain cells are the source of awareness or consciousness for the

case...what is it that is aware off brain cells? If all things are

perceptualy constructed in a brain, what is the nature of the brain that is

constructing consciousness?

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

 

> It's silly to suggest that all repartee is equal.

 

All repartee is equally repartee, eh?

 

> The idea that there is some Awareness doing everything isn't tenable, > in my

opinion - it's just another version of an imaginary separable

> entity - just on a " really big " scale.

>

> If you can't differentiate between self-centered childish behavior,

> and adult conversation, then I'm not sure what to tell you to clear

> that up for you.

>

>

> - D -

 

I don't need an " adult conversationalist " to clear up my views, that much is for

sure ;-).

 

So, you can stay unsure about what to do, if ya like.

 

Or you can stand on your head and spit wooden nickels, or sumthin... that'd be

interesting to see ;-).

 

Cheers...

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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>

>

> Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> >

> > snippity snippity snap

> >

> >

> > >

> > > No 'better' or 'worse' than any other repartee, really.

> > >

> > > Awareness seems to enjoy blabbering, while pretending something/one 'else'

exists.... eh? :-p.

> > >

> >

> >

> > Awareness seems to be doing everything, nothing and something else.

> >

> > ~A

> >

>

> Nonsense.

>

> There is no " Awareness " doing everything.

>

> That's purely make-believe fantasy and projection.

>

>

> - D -

 

Well, then, " it " is doing everything... 'member? " It " is raining outside, " it "

is people-ing, etc., according to Dan-ji.

 

I guess " It " makes more sense to ya than " awareness " , eh?

 

Or is it only when you disapprove of somebody's speech or behavior, that certain

words aren't " allowed " ?

 

When we're all cheerful and stuff, is the word " awareness " OK? :-p.

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Tim G.

Nisargadatta

Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:14 PM

Re: It's LIke......

 

 

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> >

> > snippity snippity snap

> >

> >

> > >

> > > No 'better' or 'worse' than any other repartee, really.

> > >

> > > Awareness seems to enjoy blabbering, while pretending something/one

> > > 'else' exists.... eh? :-p.

> > >

> >

> >

> > Awareness seems to be doing everything, nothing and something else.

> >

> > ~A

> >

>

> Nonsense.

>

> There is no " Awareness " doing everything.

>

> That's purely make-believe fantasy and projection.

>

>

> - D -

 

Well, then, " it " is doing everything... 'member? " It " is raining outside,

" it " is people-ing, etc., according to Dan-ji.

 

I guess " It " makes more sense to ya than " awareness " , eh?

 

Or is it only when you disapprove of somebody's speech or behavior, that

certain words aren't " allowed " ?

 

When we're all cheerful and stuff, is the word " awareness " OK? :-p.

-t-

 

Could be both ways: fact or imagination. Like people saying all is

god...lets pray, he loves us. So being-it is a very " particular " perspective

:>))) not something BTW, like one among many facts...

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote:

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>

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > >

> > >

> > > snippity snippity snap

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > No 'better' or 'worse' than any other repartee, really.

> > > >

> > > > Awareness seems to enjoy blabbering, while pretending something/one

'else' exists.... eh? :-p.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Awareness seems to be doing everything, nothing and something else.

> > >

> > > ~A

> > >

> >

> > Nonsense.

> >

> > There is no " Awareness " doing everything.

> >

> > That's purely make-believe fantasy and projection.

> >

> >

> > - D -

> >

>

>

> Yes Dan, true,

>

> And if you do the next step seeing how awareness is created by the brain yo

will see that awareness does not exist:

>

> The firing of memory cells within the neuronal netweork is what we experience

as awareness.

>

> To use a metaphor for that firing of memory cells one could say that awareness

(or consciousness) is a flow of contents of those atcivated memory cells and

that flow we call awareness. But awareness is neither a function nor a state. It

is just millions of 'sparkles' happening in the neuronal network.

>

> Werner

 

Werner -

 

I'm aware, it's just that my awareness isn't a " thing " that makes other things

happen.

 

How do you know for sure something exists, such as a cell, if you're not aware

of it?

 

How do you know for sure what properties a cell has or doesn't have, without

being aware?

 

 

 

- D -

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