Guest guest Report post Posted August 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > And then one realizes that there is no authority. > > > > Not in another. > > > > And not in one's self. > > > > - D - > > Authority: " Author " - ity. > > Someone who is writing the story. Someone directing things. > > Indeed, there is no authority. Everything is just happening. > > No one is driving the bus. > > " Who's driving this nondual bus? I went up to the front of the bus, but no one was at the steering wheel " ;-) (old posting from Dan to Jerry Katz). Scary, huh? ;-) - Dan - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Please do not interpret the following as wishful thinking on my part. I have no delusion about individual life after death. However, I have noticed when reading Nisargadatta that he says to folks who still identify with the body that they must undergo rebirth if that is their belief. How does this square with Nis' teaching that reincarnation is not real and meant for the ignorant masses? > > > > > > > > > > > > > When younger Niz believed in reincarnatioin but in his later years he denied that there is such a thing. This are just different phases in his life which confuse you. > > > > > > The conclusion is better not to blieve in any authority. > > > > > > Werner > > > > Yes. > > > > And don't believe your own self as authority, either. > > > > As awareness is. > > > > Consciousness is of the body, and arises in and through awareness. > > > > Crap ! > > There is no such as awareness in which consciousness arises. This is a nonsene in which Niz was believing. > > It is a wide spread error when repeating nonsense again an again it slowly by slowly will become true (hahaha)... > > Werner Ha! Awareness is not a belief, not cognized, and not verbalized. Your existence as a body consciousness that is constructing itself through its own neurons, is the belief! Laughing, -- Dan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Please do not interpret the following as wishful thinking on my part. I have no delusion about individual life after death. However, I have noticed when reading Nisargadatta that he says to folks who still identify with the body that they must undergo rebirth if that is their belief. How does this square with Nis' teaching that reincarnation is not real and meant for the ignorant masses? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When younger Niz believed in reincarnatioin but in his later years he denied that there is such a thing. This are just different phases in his life which confuse you. > > > > > > > > The conclusion is better not to blieve in any authority. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > And don't believe your own self as authority, either. > > > > > > As awareness is. > > > > > > Consciousness is of the body, and arises in and through awareness. > > > > > > > > Crap ! > > > > There is no such as awareness in which consciousness arises. This is a nonsene in which Niz was believing. > > > > It is a wide spread error when repeating nonsense again an again it slowly by slowly will become true (hahaha)... > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > So, don't be fooled by your own consciousness, either. > > > > > > > > > Smiles, > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > >Werner, you so easily dismiss Nisargadatta, but then complain to Hur that this site is supposed to be inspired by the teachings of Nisargadatta. You cannot have it both ways when someone dismisses you. Well, that's just it, Douglas. " I am " wants to have it its own way. It wants to be there to know what is going on. And to let others in on it. Smiles, Dan P.S. This is why Nis. " meditated " on " I am " until it dissolved. Or, one could say that " I am " was grabbed by awareness, and not released, until it dissolved. Which is a polite way to say " died. " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > And then one realizes that there is no authority. > > > > > > Not in another. > > > > > > And not in one's self. > > > > > > - D - > > > > Authority: " Author " - ity. > > > > Someone who is writing the story. Someone directing things. > > > > Indeed, there is no authority. Everything is just happening. > > > > No one is driving the bus. > > > > " Who's driving this nondual bus? I went up to the front of the bus, but no one was at the steering wheel " ;-) (old posting from Dan to Jerry Katz). > > Scary, huh? > > ;-) > > - Dan - scary for whom? the nonexistent driver or the nonexistent you? or mayhap the nonexistent bus? where the hells the road anyway? ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > And then one realizes that there is no authority. > > > > > > > > Not in another. > > > > > > > > And not in one's self. > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > Authority: " Author " - ity. > > > > > > Someone who is writing the story. Someone directing things. > > > > > > Indeed, there is no authority. Everything is just happening. > > > > > > No one is driving the bus. > > > > > > " Who's driving this nondual bus? I went up to the front of the bus, but no one was at the steering wheel " ;-) (old posting from Dan to Jerry Katz). > > > > Scary, huh? > > > > ;-) > > > > - Dan - > > > scary for whom? > > the nonexistent driver or the nonexistent you? > > or mayhap the nonexistent bus? > > where the hells the road anyway? > > .b b.b. scary for me mum. mum's the word. shhhhh ..... it. -- d -- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > And then one realizes that there is no authority. > > > > > > > > > > Not in another. > > > > > > > > > > And not in one's self. > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > Authority: " Author " - ity. > > > > > > > > Someone who is writing the story. Someone directing things. > > > > > > > > Indeed, there is no authority. Everything is just happening. > > > > > > > > No one is driving the bus. > > > > > > > > " Who's driving this nondual bus? I went up to the front of the bus, but no one was at the steering wheel " ;-) (old posting from Dan to Jerry Katz). > > > > > > Scary, huh? > > > > > > ;-) > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > scary for whom? > > > > the nonexistent driver or the nonexistent you? > > > > or mayhap the nonexistent bus? > > > > where the hells the road anyway? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > scary for me mum. > > > mum's the word. > > > > shhhhh ..... > > it. > > > -- d -- shhhhh.... it.... stick... buddy buddha. now wipe yourself.. out of the picture. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > And then one realizes that there is no authority. > > > > > > > > > > > > Not in another. > > > > > > > > > > > > And not in one's self. > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > Authority: " Author " - ity. > > > > > > > > > > Someone who is writing the story. Someone directing things. > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, there is no authority. Everything is just happening. > > > > > > > > > > No one is driving the bus. > > > > > > > > > > " Who's driving this nondual bus? I went up to the front of the bus, but no one was at the steering wheel " ;-) (old posting from Dan to Jerry Katz). > > > > > > > > Scary, huh? > > > > > > > > ;-) > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > scary for whom? > > > > > > the nonexistent driver or the nonexistent you? > > > > > > or mayhap the nonexistent bus? > > > > > > where the hells the road anyway? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > scary for me mum. > > > > > > mum's the word. > > > > > > > > shhhhh ..... > > > > it. > > > > > > -- d -- > > > shhhhh.... > > it.... > > stick... > > buddy buddha. > > now wipe yourself.. > > out of the picture. > > > .b b.b. picture this. i am the picture. nothing to wipe. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And then one realizes that there is no authority. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not in another. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And not in one's self. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > Authority: " Author " - ity. > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone who is writing the story. Someone directing things. > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, there is no authority. Everything is just happening. > > > > > > > > > > > > No one is driving the bus. > > > > > > > > > > > > " Who's driving this nondual bus? I went up to the front of the bus, but no one was at the steering wheel " ;-) (old posting from Dan to Jerry Katz). > > > > > > > > > > Scary, huh? > > > > > > > > > > ;-) > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > scary for whom? > > > > > > > > the nonexistent driver or the nonexistent you? > > > > > > > > or mayhap the nonexistent bus? > > > > > > > > where the hells the road anyway? > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > scary for me mum. > > > > > > > > > mum's the word. > > > > > > > > > > > > shhhhh ..... > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > -- d -- > > > > > > shhhhh.... > > > > it.... > > > > stick... > > > > buddy buddha. > > > > now wipe yourself.. > > > > out of the picture. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > picture this. > > i am the picture. > > nothing to wipe. > > - d - no. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > > shhhhh.... > > > > it.... > > > > stick... > > > > buddy buddha. > > > > now wipe yourself.. > > > > out of the picture. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > picture this. > > i am the picture. > > nothing to wipe. > > - d - Indeed. Nothing separate. Nothing apart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > shhhhh.... > > > > > > it.... > > > > > > stick... > > > > > > buddy buddha. > > > > > > now wipe yourself.. > > > > > > out of the picture. > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > picture this. > > > > i am the picture. > > > > nothing to wipe. > > > > - d - > > Indeed. > > Nothing separate. Nothing apart. the deed of you writing that.. was as stepping apart as a separate judge of what's what. that's not nothing timmy. that's a something else entirely. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
