Fwd: Nisargadatta - What advantage?

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Tim G.

Nisargadatta

Saturday, July 18, 2009 11:00 AM

Re: Fwd: Nisargadatta - " What advantage? "

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> Or not - in very similar ways everywhere. And please tell tim that

> the globe

> is not somewhere over there...

> -ggo-

 

P.S. someone please tell life/reality that " Tim " and " Geo " are only in its

imagination ;-).

-tim

 

Geo, tim, imagination...are all consciousness seen as one.

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Tim G.

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > Saturday, July 18, 2009 8:38 AM

> > > > Re: Fwd: Nisargadatta - " What advantage? "

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > NondualitySalon , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta: " Don't you see that the Supreme Reality is what makes

> > > > > > everything possible? But if you ask of what use is it to you, I must

> > > > > > answer: 'None'. In matters of daily life the knower of the real has

no

> > > > > > advantage: he may be at a disadvantage rather: being free from greed

and

> > > > > > fear, he does not protect himself. The very idea of profit is

foreign to

> > > > > > him; he abhors accretions; his life is constant divesting oneself,

> > > > > > sharing, giving. "

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Ok. Let's apply this to today, circa 2009, USA, global

> > > > > consciousness.

> > > >

> > > > Let's not, as there is no such thing as 'global consciousness'.

> > > > Consciousness is here and now.

> > > >

> > > > We are not 'together' Anna. We'd have to be apart in the first place, in

> > > > order to get together.

> > > >

> > > > Peace...

> > > > -tim-

> > > >

> > > > 'Global consciousness' means that in modern days, because of

comunication,

> > > > more then ever, persons in china, or tumbutskan, or bogota, think much

> > > > alike, hold similar values, similar morality, eat similar double

burgers,

> > > > get emotional towards similar issues...etc...

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > >

> > > or not.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> >

> > the discussion between all of us is the most clear " proof " ..

> >

> > that separation exists.

>

> One has to think of separation in order for separation to be.

>

> Don't think of it, and it isn't there.

 

 

if there is one there is many.

 

separation is implicit in what you say.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > NondualitySalon , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta: " Don't you see that the Supreme Reality is what makes

everything possible? But if you ask of what use is it to you, I must answer:

'None'. In matters of daily life the knower of the real has no advantage: he may

be at a disadvantage rather: being free from greed and fear, he does not protect

himself. The very idea of profit is foreign to him; he abhors accretions; his

life is constant divesting oneself, sharing, giving. "

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Ok. Let's apply this to today, circa 2009, USA, global

> > > > consciousness.

> > >

> > > Let's not, as there is no such thing as 'global consciousness'.

Consciousness is here and now.

> > >

> > > We are not 'together' Anna. We'd have to be apart in the first place, in

order to get together.

> > >

> > > Peace...

> > >

> >

> >

> > wouldn't we have to be apart to go back and forth like this?

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> The words would have to be apart, sure. Words suggest 'apartness'.

>

> I'm not suggesting we're together, remember. Just that we're not apart.

 

 

that's bullshit.

 

apart from that it's even more bullshit.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Or not - in very similar ways everywhere. And please tell tim that

> > the globe

> > is not somewhere over there...

> > -ggo-

>

> It's not 'in here' either.. if there's an 'in here', there's an 'out there'.

 

 

and out there is where you are.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Tim G.

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > Saturday, July 18, 2009 8:38 AM

> > > > Re: Fwd: Nisargadatta - " What advantage? "

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > NondualitySalon , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta: " Don't you see that the Supreme Reality is what makes

> > > > > > everything possible? But if you ask of what use is it to you, I must

> > > > > > answer: 'None'. In matters of daily life the knower of the real has

no

> > > > > > advantage: he may be at a disadvantage rather: being free from greed

and

> > > > > > fear, he does not protect himself. The very idea of profit is

foreign to

> > > > > > him; he abhors accretions; his life is constant divesting oneself,

> > > > > > sharing, giving. "

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Ok. Let's apply this to today, circa 2009, USA, global

> > > > > consciousness.

> > > >

> > > > Let's not, as there is no such thing as 'global consciousness'.

> > > > Consciousness is here and now.

> > > >

> > > > We are not 'together' Anna. We'd have to be apart in the first place, in

> > > > order to get together.

> > > >

> > > > Peace...

> > > > -tim-

> > > >

> > > > Besides...where do you think " global " is?

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > Exactly... 'global' is 'local'.

> >

> >

> > tell that to the non free trade associations.

> >

> > unless of course you want to moderate them too.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> I'll let Bob tell 'em, since he's interested.

 

 

*yawn*.

 

so then..

 

Bob is other than you.

 

and them is other than Bob or you.

 

interesting.

 

you're beginning to stop trying to be such a bullshiter.

 

LOL!

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > Or not - in very similar ways everywhere. And please tell tim that

> > the globe

> > is not somewhere over there...

> > -ggo-

>

> P.S. someone please tell life/reality that " Tim " and " Geo " are only in its

imagination ;-).

 

 

there is something besides life/reality?

 

you said it.

 

imagine that.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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>

> -

> Tim G.

> Nisargadatta

> Saturday, July 18, 2009 11:00 AM

> Re: Fwd: Nisargadatta - " What advantage? "

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > Or not - in very similar ways everywhere. And please tell tim that

> > the globe

> > is not somewhere over there...

> > -ggo-

>

> P.S. someone please tell life/reality that " Tim " and " Geo " are only in its

> imagination ;-).

> -tim

>

> Geo, tim, imagination...are all consciousness seen as one.

> -geo-

 

 

but who's lookin' right?

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> -

> Tim G.

> Nisargadatta

> Saturday, July 18, 2009 11:00 AM

> Re: Fwd: Nisargadatta - " What advantage? "

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > Or not - in very similar ways everywhere. And please tell tim that

> > the globe

> > is not somewhere over there...

> > -ggo-

>

> P.S. someone please tell life/reality that " Tim " and " Geo " are only in its

> imagination ;-).

> -tim

>

> Geo, tim, imagination...are all consciousness seen as one.

> -geo-

>

 

 

Time for a little " showdown " ...

 

from Charlie Hayes facebook

 

http://www.facebook.com/charliehayes36?v=feed & story_fbid=100698282699#/video/vid\

eo.php?v=33467627532

 

 

Love to All,

All to Love,

 

 

" I do not want peace which passeth understanding, I want the understanding which

bringeth peace. " ~ Helen Keller

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roberibus111

Nisargadatta

Saturday, July 18, 2009 3:24 PM

Re: Fwd: Nisargadatta - " What advantage? "

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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>

> -

> Tim G.

> Nisargadatta

> Saturday, July 18, 2009 11:00 AM

> Re: Fwd: Nisargadatta - " What advantage? "

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > Or not - in very similar ways everywhere. And please tell tim that

> > the globe

> > is not somewhere over there...

> > -ggo-

>

> P.S. someone please tell life/reality that " Tim " and " Geo " are only in its

> imagination ;-).

> -tim

>

> Geo, tim, imagination...are all consciousness seen as one.

> -geo-

 

but who's lookin' right?

 

..b b.b.

 

Of course. Then...the only thing that occours to me is: shell I open that

potato chipps or look the dogs?

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> if there is one there is many.

>

> separation is implicit in what you say.

>

> .b b.b.

 

OK, OK, so there's only separation, division... advaita is a lie, reality is

split up into parts. Is that what Bobby's wanting to hear?

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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>

> you're beginning to stop trying to be such a bullshiter.

 

Fer chrissakes, can't even spell your favorite word? That's " bullshitter " :-p.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> that's bullshit.

>

> apart from that it's even more bullshit.

>

> .b b.b.

 

I'd suggest buying a bull and a shed full of shovels, Bobby ;-).

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > you're beginning to stop trying to be such a bullshiter.

>

> Fer chrissakes, can't even spell your favorite word? That's " bullshitter "

:-p.

 

 

for Christ's sake i spelled it wrong.

 

the Sweet Lord disapproves of swearing.

 

besides..in deference to the wernie-poo in you..

 

i probably should have written bullsheiter.

 

anyway..

 

Jesus forgive me..

 

you're still a bullshitter.

 

but you're trying to improve.

 

good for you timmy!

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > that's bullshit.

> >

> > apart from that it's even more bullshit.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> I'd suggest buying a bull and a shed full of shovels, Bobby ;-).

 

 

your suggestion is bullshit timmy.

 

of course anything you try and say usually is.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > if there is one there is many.

> >

> > separation is implicit in what you say.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> OK, OK, so there's only separation, division... advaita is a lie, reality is

split up into parts. Is that what Bobby's wanting to hear?

 

 

i don't give a fuck what you think or say timmy.

 

i don't particularly want or need to hear anything from you.

 

but since you've brought it up..

 

good lad!

 

i knew you'd give up on that other bullshit of yours and see..

 

that it's all the same bullshit.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > if there is one there is many.

> > >

> > > separation is implicit in what you say.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > OK, OK, so there's only separation, division... advaita is a lie, reality is

split up into parts. Is that what Bobby's wanting to hear?

>

>

> i don't give a fuck what you think or say timmy.

>

> i don't particularly want or need to hear anything from you.

>

> but since you've brought it up..

>

> good lad!

>

> i knew you'd give up on that other bullshit of yours and see..

>

> that it's all the same bullshit.

>

> .b b.b.

 

Of course it all sounds like bullshit, Bobby. It's about letting the self-image

go, which bobby hasn't done, " just being " , which Bobby considers trivial, being

empty, which bobby is afraid of, etc. etc.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > that's bullshit.

> > >

> > > apart from that it's even more bullshit.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > I'd suggest buying a bull and a shed full of shovels, Bobby ;-).

>

>

> your suggestion is bullshit timmy.

>

> of course anything you try and say usually is.

>

> .b b.b.

 

From here, Bobby is more or less expected to sneer at what he doesn't

understand... it's commonplace. Lots of folks do it. 'Tis ok ;-).

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Tim G.

Nisargadatta

Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:21 PM

Re: Fwd: Nisargadatta - " What advantage? "

 

 

Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111

wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > if there is one there is many.

> > >

> > > separation is implicit in what you say.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > OK, OK, so there's only separation, division... advaita is a lie,

> > reality is split up into parts. Is that what Bobby's wanting to hear?

>

>

> i don't give a fuck what you think or say timmy.

>

> i don't particularly want or need to hear anything from you.

>

> but since you've brought it up..

>

> good lad!

>

> i knew you'd give up on that other bullshit of yours and see..

>

> that it's all the same bullshit.

>

> .b b.b.

 

Of course it all sounds like bullshit, Bobby. It's about letting the

self-image go, which bobby hasn't done, " just being " , which Bobby considers

trivial, being empty, which bobby is afraid of, etc. etc.

-tim-

 

Not considering the merit, or not. of some bobbys state....how strange that

you should " see " that anothers self-image is not gone, which means -

according to you - that it is your own ego seeing it. Only ego sees ego, no?

Or not always?

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > that's bullshit.

> > > >

> > > > apart from that it's even more bullshit.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > I'd suggest buying a bull and a shed full of shovels, Bobby ;-).

> >

> >

> > your suggestion is bullshit timmy.

> >

> > of course anything you try and say usually is.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> From here, Bobby is more or less expected to sneer at what he doesn't

understand... it's commonplace. Lots of folks do it. 'Tis ok ;-).

 

 

if you feel sneered upon..

 

you think too much of yourself.

 

that sums up everything about you timmy.

 

sorry son..

 

you just aren't that important.

 

and kiddo..

 

you are not above nor better than nor outside of the commonplace.

 

you're a phony prig timmy.

 

and you are not above or better than anyone else.

 

get used to it boy.

 

you're just and only like the rest of us (your " lots of folks " ).

 

except maybe you're a bit more of an asshole than most.

 

your own words and smarmy attitude say it all.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> Tim G.

> Nisargadatta

> Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:21 PM

> Re: Fwd: Nisargadatta - " What advantage? "

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > if there is one there is many.

> > > >

> > > > separation is implicit in what you say.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > OK, OK, so there's only separation, division... advaita is a lie,

> > > reality is split up into parts. Is that what Bobby's wanting to hear?

> >

> >

> > i don't give a fuck what you think or say timmy.

> >

> > i don't particularly want or need to hear anything from you.

> >

> > but since you've brought it up..

> >

> > good lad!

> >

> > i knew you'd give up on that other bullshit of yours and see..

> >

> > that it's all the same bullshit.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> Of course it all sounds like bullshit, Bobby. It's about letting the

> self-image go, which bobby hasn't done, " just being " , which Bobby considers

> trivial, being empty, which bobby is afraid of, etc. etc.

> -tim-

>

> Not considering the merit, or not. of some bobbys state....how strange that

> you should " see " that anothers self-image is not gone, which means -

> according to you - that it is your own ego seeing it. Only ego sees ego, no?

> Or not always?

> -geo-

 

 

oh but geo..

 

can't you see?

 

tim's asshole ego is better than yours or mine or anyone else.

 

we're all the same except for timmy.

 

he's better us.

 

LOL!

 

:-)

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> if you feel sneered upon..

>

> you think too much of yourself.

 

Naah, but it's sad to see Bobby unconsciously sneering upon himself. He thinks

way too little of himself ;-).

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > if you feel sneered upon..

> >

> > you think too much of yourself.

>

> Naah, but it's sad to see Bobby unconsciously sneering upon himself. He

thinks way too little of himself ;-).

 

 

you've just proved everything that i said about you.

 

and you're a fucking twit.

 

you even try to show pride in yourself when you try and humiliate.

 

you are as said many times here an egotistical asshole.

 

you're full of shit.

 

you're a phony.

 

you're not worth wasting any time on at all.

 

but i forgive you.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > if you feel sneered upon..

> > >

> > > you think too much of yourself.

> >

> > Naah, but it's sad to see Bobby unconsciously sneering upon himself. He

thinks way too little of himself ;-).

>

>

> you've just proved everything that i said about you.

>

> and you're a fucking twit.

 

Mmkay, Bobby.

 

This is getting a little dull... 'scuse me if I bow out for awhile. Enjoy your

imaginary playmate, " Tim " ;-).

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > if you feel sneered upon..

> > > >

> > > > you think too much of yourself.

> > >

> > > Naah, but it's sad to see Bobby unconsciously sneering upon himself. He

thinks way too little of himself ;-).

> >

> >

> > you've just proved everything that i said about you.

> >

> > and you're a fucking twit.

>

> Mmkay, Bobby.

>

> This is getting a little dull... 'scuse me if I bow out for awhile. Enjoy

your imaginary playmate, " Tim " ;-).

 

 

let me get this straight..

 

you are my imaginary playmate.

 

which i like to toy with.

 

i am your imaginary playmate.

 

which you are bored with.

 

even though we are one..

 

and i'm having fun..

 

you are dulled by your own imagination.

 

plus you are bored with your own dullness.

 

funny thing here..

 

i'm beginning to see what you mean and why you mean it.

 

you are dulling and boring to and by yourself.

 

when you put it that way..

 

it's no wonder i have such fun toying with you.

 

:-)

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > if you feel sneered upon..

> > > > >

> > > > > you think too much of yourself.

> > > >

> > > > Naah, but it's sad to see Bobby unconsciously sneering upon himself. He

thinks way too little of himself ;-).

> > >

> > >

> > > you've just proved everything that i said about you.

> > >

> > > and you're a fucking twit.

> >

> > Mmkay, Bobby.

> >

> > This is getting a little dull... 'scuse me if I bow out for awhile. Enjoy

your imaginary playmate, " Tim " ;-).

>

>

> let me get this straight..

>

> you are my imaginary playmate.

 

Exactly.

 

The " Tim " one in mind is entirely imaginary.

 

There is no actual Tim, either 'here' or 'there'.

 

He is being imagined.

 

Is he interesting?

 

Have fun...