Fwd: Nisargadatta - What advantage?

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NondualitySalon , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

 

Nisargadatta: " Don't you see that the Supreme Reality is what makes everything

possible? But if you ask of what use is it to you, I must answer: 'None'. In

matters of daily life the knower of the real has no advantage: he may be at a

disadvantage rather: being free from greed and fear, he does not protect

himself. The very idea of profit is foreign to him; he abhors accretions; his

life is constant divesting oneself, sharing, giving. "

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> NondualitySalon , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta: " Don't you see that the Supreme Reality is what makes everything

possible? But if you ask of what use is it to you, I must answer: 'None'. In

matters of daily life the knower of the real has no advantage: he may be at a

disadvantage rather: being free from greed and fear, he does not protect

himself. The very idea of profit is foreign to him; he abhors accretions; his

life is constant divesting oneself, sharing, giving. "

 

 

 

Ok. Let's apply this to today, circa 2009, USA, global consciousness.

 

We have stockpiled defenses literally and figuratively since the beginning of

time... individually and collectively. We have hoarded

our riches and cast pearls before swine. We have amassed fortunes and rarely

shared an iota of our humanity. We have hidden behind words to prove our own

self-worth.

 

If we are not the very thing we seek, then who are we?

 

What are we doing?

 

 

~A

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> NondualitySalon , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta: " Don't you see that the Supreme Reality is what makes everything

possible? But if you ask of what use is it to you, I must answer: 'None'. In

matters of daily life the knower of the real has no advantage: he may be at a

disadvantage rather: being free from greed and fear, he does not protect

himself. The very idea of profit is foreign to him; he abhors accretions; his

life is constant divesting oneself, sharing, giving. "

 

 

if there is any sense of giving or sharing..

 

there is a belief that there is a possession for which

 

giving and sharing is a divesting to " others " of that possession.

 

better that even the notion of possessed and possessor..

 

is never born as a burden or boon.

 

nothing can be shared..given..kept..or owned.

 

advantage and disadvantage are diseases of false assumption.

 

accretion is an impossibility within Open Capacity.

 

there exist no givers nor takers no senders nor receivers.

 

" they " who feel offense at this truth are deceivers.

 

their first creation and victim is their " self " .

 

belief in the prime and faulty possession of a self..

 

is the first and prime imbecilic and false possession.

 

nothing is ever gained nor lost nor taken nor given.

 

sharing or giving are not a merit points.

 

both are in fact nonexistent options.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > NondualitySalon , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta: " Don't you see that the Supreme Reality is what makes

everything possible? But if you ask of what use is it to you, I must answer:

'None'. In matters of daily life the knower of the real has no advantage: he may

be at a disadvantage rather: being free from greed and fear, he does not protect

himself. The very idea of profit is foreign to him; he abhors accretions; his

life is constant divesting oneself, sharing, giving. "

>

>

>

> Ok. Let's apply this to today, circa 2009, USA, global consciousness.

>

> We have stockpiled defenses literally and figuratively since the beginning of

time... individually and collectively. We have hoarded

> our riches and cast pearls before swine. We have amassed fortunes and rarely

shared an iota of our humanity. We have hidden behind words to prove our own

self-worth.

>

> If we are not the very thing we seek, then who are we?

>

> What are we doing?

>

>

> ~A

 

 

" we're " not.

 

Isness does not judge...nor give nor take.

 

faulty distinction.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > NondualitySalon , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta: " Don't you see that the Supreme Reality is what makes

everything possible? But if you ask of what use is it to you, I must answer:

'None'. In matters of daily life the knower of the real has no advantage: he may

be at a disadvantage rather: being free from greed and fear, he does not protect

himself. The very idea of profit is foreign to him; he abhors accretions; his

life is constant divesting oneself, sharing, giving. "

> >

> >

> >

> > Ok. Let's apply this to today, circa 2009, USA, global consciousness.

> >

> > We have stockpiled defenses literally and figuratively since the beginning

of time... individually and collectively. We have hoarded

> > our riches and cast pearls before swine. We have amassed fortunes and

rarely shared an iota of our humanity. We have hidden behind words to prove our

own self-worth.

> >

> > If we are not the very thing we seek, then who are we?

> >

> > What are we doing?

> >

> >

> > ~A

>

>

> " we're " not.

>

> Isness does not judge...nor give nor take.

>

> faulty distinction.

>

> .b b.b.

 

Well, dig up Nisargadatta and let him know. Don't forget to rebury him

afterwards... no bones for sale on eBay, please :-p.

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Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > NondualitySalon , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta: " Don't you see that the Supreme Reality is what makes

everything possible? But if you ask of what use is it to you, I must answer:

'None'. In matters of daily life the knower of the real has no advantage: he may

be at a disadvantage rather: being free from greed and fear, he does not protect

himself. The very idea of profit is foreign to him; he abhors accretions; his

life is constant divesting oneself, sharing, giving. "

>

>

>

> Ok. Let's apply this to today, circa 2009, USA, global

> consciousness.

 

Let's not, as there is no such thing as 'global consciousness'. Consciousness

is here and now.

 

We are not 'together' Anna. We'd have to be apart in the first place, in order

to get together.

 

Peace...

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Tim G.

Nisargadatta

Saturday, July 18, 2009 8:38 AM

Re: Fwd: Nisargadatta - " What advantage? "

 

 

Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > NondualitySalon , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta: " Don't you see that the Supreme Reality is what makes

> > everything possible? But if you ask of what use is it to you, I must

> > answer: 'None'. In matters of daily life the knower of the real has no

> > advantage: he may be at a disadvantage rather: being free from greed and

> > fear, he does not protect himself. The very idea of profit is foreign to

> > him; he abhors accretions; his life is constant divesting oneself,

> > sharing, giving. "

>

>

>

> Ok. Let's apply this to today, circa 2009, USA, global

> consciousness.

 

Let's not, as there is no such thing as 'global consciousness'.

Consciousness is here and now.

 

We are not 'together' Anna. We'd have to be apart in the first place, in

order to get together.

 

Peace...

-tim-

 

'Global consciousness' means that in modern days, because of comunication,

more then ever, persons in china, or tumbutskan, or bogota, think much

alike, hold similar values, similar morality, eat similar double burgers,

get emotional towards similar issues...etc...

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > NondualitySalon , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta: " Don't you see that the Supreme Reality is what makes

everything possible? But if you ask of what use is it to you, I must answer:

'None'. In matters of daily life the knower of the real has no advantage: he may

be at a disadvantage rather: being free from greed and fear, he does not protect

himself. The very idea of profit is foreign to him; he abhors accretions; his

life is constant divesting oneself, sharing, giving. "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Ok. Let's apply this to today, circa 2009, USA, global consciousness.

> > >

> > > We have stockpiled defenses literally and figuratively since the beginning

of time... individually and collectively. We have hoarded

> > > our riches and cast pearls before swine. We have amassed fortunes and

rarely shared an iota of our humanity. We have hidden behind words to prove our

own self-worth.

> > >

> > > If we are not the very thing we seek, then who are we?

> > >

> > > What are we doing?

> > >

> > >

> > > ~A

> >

> >

> > " we're " not.

> >

> > Isness does not judge...nor give nor take.

> >

> > faulty distinction.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> Well, dig up Nisargadatta and let him know. Don't forget to rebury him

afterwards... no bones for sale on eBay, please :-p.

 

 

faulty distinction.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > NondualitySalon , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta: " Don't you see that the Supreme Reality is what makes

everything possible? But if you ask of what use is it to you, I must answer:

'None'. In matters of daily life the knower of the real has no advantage: he may

be at a disadvantage rather: being free from greed and fear, he does not protect

himself. The very idea of profit is foreign to him; he abhors accretions; his

life is constant divesting oneself, sharing, giving. "

> >

> >

> >

> > Ok. Let's apply this to today, circa 2009, USA, global

> > consciousness.

>

> Let's not, as there is no such thing as 'global consciousness'. Consciousness

is here and now.

>

> We are not 'together' Anna. We'd have to be apart in the first place, in

order to get together.

>

> Peace...

 

 

or to banter back and forth like that.

 

i guess it didn't happen NOW.

 

LOL!

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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>

> -

> Tim G.

> Nisargadatta

> Saturday, July 18, 2009 8:38 AM

> Re: Fwd: Nisargadatta - " What advantage? "

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > NondualitySalon , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta: " Don't you see that the Supreme Reality is what makes

> > > everything possible? But if you ask of what use is it to you, I must

> > > answer: 'None'. In matters of daily life the knower of the real has no

> > > advantage: he may be at a disadvantage rather: being free from greed and

> > > fear, he does not protect himself. The very idea of profit is foreign to

> > > him; he abhors accretions; his life is constant divesting oneself,

> > > sharing, giving. "

> >

> >

> >

> > Ok. Let's apply this to today, circa 2009, USA, global

> > consciousness.

>

> Let's not, as there is no such thing as 'global consciousness'.

> Consciousness is here and now.

>

> We are not 'together' Anna. We'd have to be apart in the first place, in

> order to get together.

>

> Peace...

> -tim-

>

> 'Global consciousness' means that in modern days, because of comunication,

> more then ever, persons in china, or tumbutskan, or bogota, think much

> alike, hold similar values, similar morality, eat similar double burgers,

> get emotional towards similar issues...etc...

> -geo-

 

 

or not.

 

..b b.b.

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Tim G.

Nisargadatta

Saturday, July 18, 2009 8:38 AM

Re: Fwd: Nisargadatta - " What advantage? "

 

 

Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > NondualitySalon , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta: " Don't you see that the Supreme Reality is what makes

> > everything possible? But if you ask of what use is it to you, I must

> > answer: 'None'. In matters of daily life the knower of the real has no

> > advantage: he may be at a disadvantage rather: being free from greed and

> > fear, he does not protect himself. The very idea of profit is foreign to

> > him; he abhors accretions; his life is constant divesting oneself,

> > sharing, giving. "

>

>

>

> Ok. Let's apply this to today, circa 2009, USA, global

> consciousness.

 

Let's not, as there is no such thing as 'global consciousness'.

Consciousness is here and now.

 

We are not 'together' Anna. We'd have to be apart in the first place, in

order to get together.

 

Peace...

-tim-

 

Besides...where do you think " global " is?

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

>

> -

> Tim G.

> Nisargadatta

> Saturday, July 18, 2009 8:38 AM

> Re: Fwd: Nisargadatta - " What advantage? "

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > NondualitySalon , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta: " Don't you see that the Supreme Reality is what makes

> > > everything possible? But if you ask of what use is it to you, I must

> > > answer: 'None'. In matters of daily life the knower of the real has no

> > > advantage: he may be at a disadvantage rather: being free from greed and

> > > fear, he does not protect himself. The very idea of profit is foreign to

> > > him; he abhors accretions; his life is constant divesting oneself,

> > > sharing, giving. "

> >

> >

> >

> > Ok. Let's apply this to today, circa 2009, USA, global

> > consciousness.

>

> Let's not, as there is no such thing as 'global consciousness'.

> Consciousness is here and now.

>

> We are not 'together' Anna. We'd have to be apart in the first place, in

> order to get together.

>

> Peace...

> -tim-

>

> 'Global consciousness' means that in modern days, because of comunication,

> more then ever, persons in china, or tumbutskan, or bogota, think much

> alike, hold similar values, similar morality, eat similar double burgers,

> get emotional towards similar issues...etc...

> -geo-

 

 

or not.

 

..b b.b.

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roberibus111

Nisargadatta

Saturday, July 18, 2009 10:13 AM

Re: Fwd: Nisargadatta - " What advantage? "

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

>

> -

> Tim G.

> Nisargadatta

> Saturday, July 18, 2009 8:38 AM

> Re: Fwd: Nisargadatta - " What advantage? "

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > NondualitySalon , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta: " Don't you see that the Supreme Reality is what makes

> > > everything possible? But if you ask of what use is it to you, I must

> > > answer: 'None'. In matters of daily life the knower of the real has no

> > > advantage: he may be at a disadvantage rather: being free from greed

> > > and

> > > fear, he does not protect himself. The very idea of profit is foreign

> > > to

> > > him; he abhors accretions; his life is constant divesting oneself,

> > > sharing, giving. "

> >

> >

> >

> > Ok. Let's apply this to today, circa 2009, USA, global

> > consciousness.

>

> Let's not, as there is no such thing as 'global consciousness'.

> Consciousness is here and now.

>

> We are not 'together' Anna. We'd have to be apart in the first place, in

> order to get together.

>

> Peace...

> -tim-

>

> 'Global consciousness' means that in modern days, because of comunication,

> more then ever, persons in china, or tumbutskan, or bogota, think much

> alike, hold similar values, similar morality, eat similar double burgers,

> get emotional towards similar issues...etc...

> -geo-

 

or not.

 

..b b.b.

 

Or not - in very similar ways everywhere. And please tell tim that the globe

is not somewhere over there...

-ggo-

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> 'Global consciousness' means that in modern days, because of comunication,

> more then ever, persons in china, or tumbutskan, or bogota, think much

> alike, hold similar values, similar morality, eat similar double burgers,

> get emotional towards similar issues...etc...

> -geo-

 

There's still nothing actually 'global' happening, no matter how similar two

people are. One is still 'oneself', and this 'self' must needs be addressed, or

it will rot in unconsciousness and neglect, with this " me " pretending it doesn't

exist (the ultimate in subtle ego).

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

>

> -

> Tim G.

> Nisargadatta

> Saturday, July 18, 2009 8:38 AM

> Re: Fwd: Nisargadatta - " What advantage? "

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > NondualitySalon , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta: " Don't you see that the Supreme Reality is what makes

> > > everything possible? But if you ask of what use is it to you, I must

> > > answer: 'None'. In matters of daily life the knower of the real has no

> > > advantage: he may be at a disadvantage rather: being free from greed and

> > > fear, he does not protect himself. The very idea of profit is foreign to

> > > him; he abhors accretions; his life is constant divesting oneself,

> > > sharing, giving. "

> >

> >

> >

> > Ok. Let's apply this to today, circa 2009, USA, global

> > consciousness.

>

> Let's not, as there is no such thing as 'global consciousness'.

> Consciousness is here and now.

>

> We are not 'together' Anna. We'd have to be apart in the first place, in

> order to get together.

>

> Peace...

> -tim-

>

> Besides...where do you think " global " is?

> -geo-

 

Exactly... 'global' is 'local'.

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

>

> -

> Tim G.

> Nisargadatta

> Saturday, July 18, 2009 8:38 AM

> Re: Fwd: Nisargadatta - " What advantage? "

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > NondualitySalon , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta: " Don't you see that the Supreme Reality is what makes

> > > everything possible? But if you ask of what use is it to you, I must

> > > answer: 'None'. In matters of daily life the knower of the real has no

> > > advantage: he may be at a disadvantage rather: being free from greed and

> > > fear, he does not protect himself. The very idea of profit is foreign to

> > > him; he abhors accretions; his life is constant divesting oneself,

> > > sharing, giving. "

> >

> >

> >

> > Ok. Let's apply this to today, circa 2009, USA, global

> > consciousness.

>

> Let's not, as there is no such thing as 'global consciousness'.

> Consciousness is here and now.

>

> We are not 'together' Anna. We'd have to be apart in the first place, in

> order to get together.

>

> Peace...

> -tim-

>

> Besides...where do you think " global " is?

> -geo-

 

Exactly... 'global' is 'local'.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > -

> > Tim G.

> > Nisargadatta

> > Saturday, July 18, 2009 8:38 AM

> > Re: Fwd: Nisargadatta - " What advantage? "

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > NondualitySalon , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta: " Don't you see that the Supreme Reality is what makes

> > > > everything possible? But if you ask of what use is it to you, I must

> > > > answer: 'None'. In matters of daily life the knower of the real has no

> > > > advantage: he may be at a disadvantage rather: being free from greed and

> > > > fear, he does not protect himself. The very idea of profit is foreign to

> > > > him; he abhors accretions; his life is constant divesting oneself,

> > > > sharing, giving. "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Ok. Let's apply this to today, circa 2009, USA, global

> > > consciousness.

> >

> > Let's not, as there is no such thing as 'global consciousness'.

> > Consciousness is here and now.

> >

> > We are not 'together' Anna. We'd have to be apart in the first place, in

> > order to get together.

> >

> > Peace...

> > -tim-

> >

> > 'Global consciousness' means that in modern days, because of comunication,

> > more then ever, persons in china, or tumbutskan, or bogota, think much

> > alike, hold similar values, similar morality, eat similar double burgers,

> > get emotional towards similar issues...etc...

> > -geo-

>

>

> or not.

>

> .b b.b.

 

 

the discussion between all of us is the most clear " proof " ..

 

that separation exists.

 

whether we 'come together " or not.

 

if we were never " apart " ..

 

there would be no comments or discussions.

 

nor need to be protected from having this pointed out.

 

nor anyone to hail " peace " with or by.

 

LOL!

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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>

> -

> roberibus111

> Nisargadatta

> Saturday, July 18, 2009 10:13 AM

> Re: Fwd: Nisargadatta - " What advantage? "

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > -

> > Tim G.

> > Nisargadatta

> > Saturday, July 18, 2009 8:38 AM

> > Re: Fwd: Nisargadatta - " What advantage? "

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > NondualitySalon , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta: " Don't you see that the Supreme Reality is what makes

> > > > everything possible? But if you ask of what use is it to you, I must

> > > > answer: 'None'. In matters of daily life the knower of the real has no

> > > > advantage: he may be at a disadvantage rather: being free from greed

> > > > and

> > > > fear, he does not protect himself. The very idea of profit is foreign

> > > > to

> > > > him; he abhors accretions; his life is constant divesting oneself,

> > > > sharing, giving. "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Ok. Let's apply this to today, circa 2009, USA, global

> > > consciousness.

> >

> > Let's not, as there is no such thing as 'global consciousness'.

> > Consciousness is here and now.

> >

> > We are not 'together' Anna. We'd have to be apart in the first place, in

> > order to get together.

> >

> > Peace...

> > -tim-

> >

> > 'Global consciousness' means that in modern days, because of comunication,

> > more then ever, persons in china, or tumbutskan, or bogota, think much

> > alike, hold similar values, similar morality, eat similar double burgers,

> > get emotional towards similar issues...etc...

> > -geo-

>

> or not.

>

> .b b.b.

>

> Or not - in very similar ways everywhere. And please tell tim that the globe

> is not somewhere over there...

> -ggo-

 

 

 

 

 

:-)

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > NondualitySalon , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta: " Don't you see that the Supreme Reality is what makes

everything possible? But if you ask of what use is it to you, I must answer:

'None'. In matters of daily life the knower of the real has no advantage: he may

be at a disadvantage rather: being free from greed and fear, he does not protect

himself. The very idea of profit is foreign to him; he abhors accretions; his

life is constant divesting oneself, sharing, giving. "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Ok. Let's apply this to today, circa 2009, USA, global

> > > consciousness.

> >

> > Let's not, as there is no such thing as 'global consciousness'.

Consciousness is here and now.

> >

> > We are not 'together' Anna. We'd have to be apart in the first place, in

order to get together.

> >

> > Peace...

> >

>

>

> wouldn't we have to be apart to go back and forth like this?

>

> .b b.b.

 

The words would have to be apart, sure. Words suggest 'apartness'.

 

I'm not suggesting we're together, remember. Just that we're not apart.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > -

> > Tim G.

> > Nisargadatta

> > Saturday, July 18, 2009 8:38 AM

> > Re: Fwd: Nisargadatta - " What advantage? "

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > NondualitySalon , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta: " Don't you see that the Supreme Reality is what makes

> > > > everything possible? But if you ask of what use is it to you, I must

> > > > answer: 'None'. In matters of daily life the knower of the real has no

> > > > advantage: he may be at a disadvantage rather: being free from greed and

> > > > fear, he does not protect himself. The very idea of profit is foreign to

> > > > him; he abhors accretions; his life is constant divesting oneself,

> > > > sharing, giving. "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Ok. Let's apply this to today, circa 2009, USA, global

> > > consciousness.

> >

> > Let's not, as there is no such thing as 'global consciousness'.

> > Consciousness is here and now.

> >

> > We are not 'together' Anna. We'd have to be apart in the first place, in

> > order to get together.

> >

> > Peace...

> > -tim-

> >

> > Besides...where do you think " global " is?

> > -geo-

>

> Exactly... 'global' is 'local'.

 

 

tell that to the non free trade associations.

 

unless of course you want to moderate them too.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> Or not - in very similar ways everywhere. And please tell tim that

> the globe

> is not somewhere over there...

> -ggo-

 

P.S. someone please tell life/reality that " Tim " and " Geo " are only in its

imagination ;-).

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > Tim G.

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Saturday, July 18, 2009 8:38 AM

> > > Re: Fwd: Nisargadatta - " What advantage? "

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > NondualitySalon , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta: " Don't you see that the Supreme Reality is what makes

> > > > > everything possible? But if you ask of what use is it to you, I must

> > > > > answer: 'None'. In matters of daily life the knower of the real has no

> > > > > advantage: he may be at a disadvantage rather: being free from greed

and

> > > > > fear, he does not protect himself. The very idea of profit is foreign

to

> > > > > him; he abhors accretions; his life is constant divesting oneself,

> > > > > sharing, giving. "

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Ok. Let's apply this to today, circa 2009, USA, global

> > > > consciousness.

> > >

> > > Let's not, as there is no such thing as 'global consciousness'.

> > > Consciousness is here and now.

> > >

> > > We are not 'together' Anna. We'd have to be apart in the first place, in

> > > order to get together.

> > >

> > > Peace...

> > > -tim-

> > >

> > > Besides...where do you think " global " is?

> > > -geo-

> >

> > Exactly... 'global' is 'local'.

>

>

> tell that to the non free trade associations.

>

> unless of course you want to moderate them too.

>

> .b b.b.

 

I'll let Bob tell 'em, since he's interested.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > Tim G.

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Saturday, July 18, 2009 8:38 AM

> > > Re: Fwd: Nisargadatta - " What advantage? "

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > NondualitySalon , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta: " Don't you see that the Supreme Reality is what makes

> > > > > everything possible? But if you ask of what use is it to you, I must

> > > > > answer: 'None'. In matters of daily life the knower of the real has no

> > > > > advantage: he may be at a disadvantage rather: being free from greed

and

> > > > > fear, he does not protect himself. The very idea of profit is foreign

to

> > > > > him; he abhors accretions; his life is constant divesting oneself,

> > > > > sharing, giving. "

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Ok. Let's apply this to today, circa 2009, USA, global

> > > > consciousness.

> > >

> > > Let's not, as there is no such thing as 'global consciousness'.

> > > Consciousness is here and now.

> > >

> > > We are not 'together' Anna. We'd have to be apart in the first place, in

> > > order to get together.

> > >

> > > Peace...

> > > -tim-

> > >

> > > 'Global consciousness' means that in modern days, because of comunication,

> > > more then ever, persons in china, or tumbutskan, or bogota, think much

> > > alike, hold similar values, similar morality, eat similar double burgers,

> > > get emotional towards similar issues...etc...

> > > -geo-

> >

> >

> > or not.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

>

> the discussion between all of us is the most clear " proof " ..

>

> that separation exists.

 

One has to think of separation in order for separation to be.

 

Don't think of it, and it isn't there.

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Tim G.

Nisargadatta

Saturday, July 18, 2009 10:39 AM

Re: Fwd: Nisargadatta - " What advantage? "

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> 'Global consciousness' means that in modern days, because of comunication,

> more then ever, persons in china, or tumbutskan, or bogota, think much

> alike, hold similar values, similar morality, eat similar double burgers,

> get emotional towards similar issues...etc...

> -geo-

 

There's still nothing actually 'global' happening, no matter how similar two

people are. One is still 'oneself', and this 'self' must needs be addressed,

or it will rot in unconsciousness and neglect, with this " me " pretending it

doesn't exist (the ultimate in subtle ego).

-tim-

 

Two people are similar because they share the same human world. The human

world, the human consciousness is a " colective " quantic groove.

Now... what is adressed is consciousness - the one movement that we all are.

Once this consciousness is understood/seen there is no need to fumble around

with terms like we, they, me , you. All is here.

-geo-

[Guest guest]

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Tim G.

Nisargadatta

Saturday, July 18, 2009 10:43 AM

Re: Fwd: Nisargadatta - " What advantage? "

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

>

> -

> Tim G.

> Nisargadatta

> Saturday, July 18, 2009 8:38 AM

> Re: Fwd: Nisargadatta - " What advantage? "

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > NondualitySalon , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta: " Don't you see that the Supreme Reality is what makes

> > > everything possible? But if you ask of what use is it to you, I must

> > > answer: 'None'. In matters of daily life the knower of the real has no

> > > advantage: he may be at a disadvantage rather: being free from greed

> > > and

> > > fear, he does not protect himself. The very idea of profit is foreign

> > > to

> > > him; he abhors accretions; his life is constant divesting oneself,

> > > sharing, giving. "

> >

> >

> >

> > Ok. Let's apply this to today, circa 2009, USA, global

> > consciousness.

>

> Let's not, as there is no such thing as 'global consciousness'.

> Consciousness is here and now.

>

> We are not 'together' Anna. We'd have to be apart in the first place, in

> order to get together.

>

> Peace...

> -tim-

>

> Besides...where do you think " global " is?

> -geo-

 

Exactly... 'global' is 'local'.

-tim-

 

and who said it was otherwise?

-geo-