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Tim G.

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Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:14 PM

Re: This Morning At Niz (deleted II)

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> I don't see any egos. I see thought engaged in a misunderstanding.

>

> My own thought, of course, as nobody else's thought is being seen... when

> a

> message is read here, it's not " somebody else's " thoughts that are

> appearing.

> -tim-

>

> Then would you mind explaining what " is precisely why so few ever

> realize

> the truth " means?

> -egg-

 

I don't even recall in what context it was stated. Could you repost the

whole message, so I can see the context?

-tim-

 

Here it is: " Trying to " get out of this " or " get around this " is precisely

why so few ever realize the truth. -tim- "

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

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> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > it's evident that tim doesn't see the pathetic fallacies found..

> > > >

> > > > in so much of what he tries to pawn off as wisdom.

> > >

> > > I'm not interested in being seen as wise. I'm fine with being seen as

ignorant.

> >

> >

> > it has nothing to do with " you " ..

> >

> > nor what you think about yourself..

> >

> > nor what does or does not interest you.

> >

> > this is a big problem for you...

> >

> > your self interests.

>

> Roberibus is my self-interest ;-).

 

 

that's not a very interesting thing to be interested in tim.

 

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

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> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Trying to " get out of this " or " get around this " is precisely why so

few ever realize the truth.

> > > > > > -tim-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So now there are others that realize truth. I thought you said it

takes an ego to see other egos. (??)

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't see any egos. I see thought engaged in a misunderstanding.

> > > > >

> > > > > My own thought, of course, as nobody else's thought is being seen...

when a message is read here, it's not " somebody else's " thoughts that are

appearing.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > then don't bother.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > Nothing else to do... this is what's happening. There's no interest here

in doing " something else " other than what's happening now.

> >

> >

> > that's not interesting either.

> >

> > just more bullshit.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> There's no need to read it.

 

 

there's no need to write it.

 

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

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> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

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> > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Not when one is so scared of the truth, they hide in words like

" nothing exists " , etc. And of course, the words like " there is no real to get "

are used when convenient, but one doesn't believe them.

> > > > > > -tim-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Or when one hide by saying there are no others...but keep telling

> > > > > > others so.

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > > > There are no others, and no others are being told this.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > why?

> > > >

> > > > or..

> > > >

> > > > why not?

> > > >

> > > > if there are no others..

> > > >

> > > > no one cares.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > Compassion does not require others. One can be compassionate toward

oneself.

> >

> >

> > to what fucking purpose?

> >

> > that's dumb!

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> I find all things equally interesting.

>

> Anything I'm doing now is perfect.

 

 

perfect what?

 

admit it:

 

that's perfect bullshit.

 

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> > I find all things equally interesting.

> >

> > Anything I'm doing now is perfect.

>

>

> perfect what?

 

Perfectly nothing ;-).

 

> admit it:

>

> that's perfect bullshit.

>

> .b b.b.

 

Roberibus can admit to what he pleases. I admit to " nothing " ;-).

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

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> > > I find all things equally interesting.

> > >

> > > Anything I'm doing now is perfect.

 

 

 

 

to say " now " indicates a " then " and a " when " .

 

this is a presumptive error.

 

dimensionless and timeless..THAT is without place or time.

 

" anything " and " I " are false premise.

 

" perfection " is a needless comparative mule turd.

 

THAT is neither imperfect nor perfect.

 

you settle for delusional hocus-pocus.

 

it matters not my child.

 

it will pass with your foolish belief.

 

without choice and without the burden of your silly opinion.

 

 

 

> > perfect what?

>

> Perfectly nothing ;-).

 

 

 

nothing isn't involved with your beau idéal.

 

you think too much of yourself and your notions.

 

 

 

>

> > admit it:

> >

> > that's perfect bullshit.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> Roberibus can admit to what he pleases. I admit to " nothing " ;-).

 

 

 

 

 

..b b.b. neither admits nor denies.

 

nothing pleases .b b.b.

 

it's the one and only pleasure recognized by the master.

 

you may bow towards baba.

 

it is acceptable though silly.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

Trying to " get out of this " or " get around this " is precisely why so few

> ever realize the truth.

> -tim-

>

> So now there are others that realize truth. I thought you said it takes an

> ego to see other egos. (??)

> -geo-

 

The ego is what sees other egos, yes.

 

I don't know anyone who ever sees their own ego. It's always " you, you, you! " ,

eh?

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Tuesday, July 14, 2009 4:10 PM

Re: This Morning At Niz (deleted II)

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

Trying to " get out of this " or " get around this " is precisely why so few

> ever realize the truth.

> -tim-

>

> So now there are others that realize truth. I thought you said it takes an

> ego to see other egos. (??)

> -geo-

 

The ego is what sees other egos, yes.

 

I don't know anyone who ever sees their own ego. It's always " you, you,

you! " , eh?

-tim-

 

OK. Let look at this slowly and with care. To be able to say " few ever

realize the truth " means you are able to differentiate the ones that are

able to realize from those who are not able to realize truth. How? Lets see.

Those who realize it does not have an ego (whatever that may mean) and those

who do not realize it do have an ego. In order to recognize those who have

an ego you need an ego yourself which you claim not to have. But in the

other hand if you dont have an ego everybody else have not one either and

you cant differentiate the ones that have from the ones that eventualy have

not. So?

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> Tim G.

> Nisargadatta

> Tuesday, July 14, 2009 4:10 PM

> Re: This Morning At Niz (deleted II)

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>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Trying to " get out of this " or " get around this " is precisely why so few

> > ever realize the truth.

> > -tim-

> >

> > So now there are others that realize truth. I thought you said it takes an

> > ego to see other egos. (??)

> > -geo-

>

> The ego is what sees other egos, yes.

>

> I don't know anyone who ever sees their own ego. It's always " you, you,

> you! " , eh?

> -tim-

>

> OK. Let look at this slowly and with care. To be able to say " few ever

> realize the truth " means you are able to differentiate the ones that are

> able to realize from those who are not able to realize truth. How? Lets see.

> Those who realize it does not have an ego (whatever that may mean) and those

> who do not realize it do have an ego. In order to recognize those who have

> an ego you need an ego yourself which you claim not to have. But in the

> other hand if you dont have an ego everybody else have not one either and

> you cant differentiate the ones that have from the ones that eventualy have

> not. So?

> -geo-

 

 

don't look for consistency or sense with timmy.

 

he thinks dan and phil are " clears " .

 

maybe timmy's a scientologist.

 

then his thought about heroes would begin to make sense.

 

:-)

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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>

> don't look for consistency or sense with timmy.

>

> he thinks dan and phil are " clears " .

>

> maybe timmy's a scientologist.

>

> then his thought about heroes would begin to make sense.

 

Quit ranting.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

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> >

> >

> > don't look for consistency or sense with timmy.

> >

> > he thinks dan and phil are " clears " .

> >

> > maybe timmy's a scientologist.

> >

> > then his thought about heroes would begin to make sense.

>

> Quit ranting.

 

 

ROFLMAO!

 

ranting????

 

are you fucking nuts.

 

i'm laughing with glee.

 

thanks for the jokes.

 

:-)

 

..b b.b.

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