Question to bbb

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> Again, asking " the other " .

>

> This gets nowhere.

> -tim-

>

> No. No other.What I question is wether tim and geo are actualy out

> there

> always.

 

You're feeling the aloneness.

 

Don't avoid it... it's good :-).

 

One needs to maintain a belief that Tim and Geo are out there continuously, in

order to assuage this aloneness.

 

Just see that.

 

Don't try to change anything.

 

See clearly the aloneness one is, and the efforts to assuage that aloneness

through fantasy.

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no, it's not that.it's that your exposing your prejudices as you go around undermining selves that don't exist.i appreciate the energy you're putting into it, too.but it's getting repetitive at this point.and the negativity of the name calling is getting stale.but keep it up, if it seems like it might help.i know, i know, there is no help for me.or maybe in a hundred years, or whatever.;-)peace to you, sir.may you know via being the depth of peace that is.- Dan

You see....there is something behind the names that you seem to recognise as a knower of the depth of peace...or not

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> You see....there is something behind the names that you seem to

> recognise as a knower of the depth of peace...or not

 

The only thing behind the names is your own body, sitting directly behind them.

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Tim G.

Nisargadatta

Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:21 AM

Re: Question to bbb

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> Again, asking " the other " .

>

> This gets nowhere.

> -tim-

>

> No. No other.What I question is wether tim and geo are actualy out

> there

> always.

 

You're feeling the aloneness.

 

Don't avoid it... it's good :-).

 

One needs to maintain a belief that Tim and Geo are out there continuously,

in order to assuage this aloneness.

 

Just see that.

 

Don't try to change anything.

 

See clearly the aloneness one is, and the efforts to assuage that aloneness

through fantasy.

-tim-

 

I am not avoiding anything. If there the need to maintain a

belief....then..............................

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> I am not avoiding anything. If there the need to maintain a

> belief....then..............................

 

Then see that need clearly. That's all.

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Tim G.

Nisargadatta

Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:05 AM

Re: Question to bbb

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> You see....there is something behind the names that you seem to

> recognise as a knower of the depth of peace...or not

 

The only thing behind the names is your own body, sitting directly behind

them.

-tim-

 

Out of context. I was comenting something dan said. But yes, words can be

seen as comming from beliefs or not. If " X " says: I believe in god, I know

it is conceptual. The " X " in my world is saying something conceptual in my

world.

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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>

> -

> Tim G.

> Nisargadatta

> Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:05 AM

> Re: Question to bbb

>

>

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > You see....there is something behind the names that you seem to

> > recognise as a knower of the depth of peace...or not

>

> The only thing behind the names is your own body, sitting directly behind

> them.

> -tim-

>

> Out of context. I was comenting something dan said. But yes, words can be

> seen as comming from beliefs or not. If " X " says: I believe in god, I know

> it is conceptual. The " X " in my world is saying something conceptual in my

> world.

> -geo-

 

There is only your world. Others' worlds are in your world.

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Tim G.

Nisargadatta

Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:35 AM

Re: Question to bbb

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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>

> -

> Tim G.

> Nisargadatta

> Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:05 AM

> Re: Question to bbb

>

>

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > You see....there is something behind the names that you seem to

> > recognise as a knower of the depth of peace...or not

>

> The only thing behind the names is your own body, sitting directly behind

> them.

> -tim-

>

> Out of context. I was comenting something dan said. But yes, words can be

> seen as comming from beliefs or not. If " X " says: I believe in god, I know

> it is conceptual. The " X " in my world is saying something conceptual in my

> world.

> -geo-

 

There is only your world. Others' worlds are in your world.

-tim-

 

Yes tim! You dont have to repeat this. There is only this world. You are tim

of this one world. Everything touching my senses are me, you dont have to

keep repeating this as if it was unknwon here. Tim of my world may be

sleeping or tim of my world may be awake.

-geo-

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Tim G.

Nisargadatta

Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:35 AM

Re: Question to bbb

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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>

> -

> Tim G.

> Nisargadatta

> Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:05 AM

> Re: Question to bbb

>

>

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > You see....there is something behind the names that you seem to

> > recognise as a knower of the depth of peace...or not

>

> The only thing behind the names is your own body, sitting directly behind

> them.

> -tim-

>

> Out of context. I was comenting something dan said. But yes, words can be

> seen as comming from beliefs or not. If " X " says: I believe in god, I know

> it is conceptual. The " X " in my world is saying something conceptual in my

> world.

> -geo-

 

There is only your world. Others' worlds are in your world.

-tim-

 

Of course. Never said it was otherwise

-geo-

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Re: Question to bbb

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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>

> There is only your world. Others' worlds are in your world.

> -tim-

>

> Of course. Never said it was otherwise

> -geo-

 

By saying you never said it was otherwise, you said it was otherwise ;-).

 

If you think it's otherwise, SAY you think it's otherwise.

 

Fer chrissakes.

 

I love talking to folks who are 'in duality'. I'm in duality, imaginary, like

you.

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > there's no belief here in what you say.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > that doesn't negate your stupidity though.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > you believe someone is out there, existing apart from you, who

is stupid?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > - d -

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The word " you " suggests someone out there being addressed, and " I "

suggests someone out there doing the addressing.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thus, saying " you believe someone is out there, existing apart " is

the height of silliness ;-). But silly on ;-).

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > now girls!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > > > girls will be boys and boys will be girls

> > > > >

> > > > > it's a mixed up muddled up shook up world

> > > > >

> > > > > except for lola.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > lol. a.

> > > > >

> > > > > - D -

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > it's amazing!

> > > >

> > > > i just knew that that song would be a fave of yours.

> > > >

> > > > LOL!

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > now you hurt my feelings.

> > >

> > > darn.

> > >

> > > i guess i'm not enlightened like you.

> > >

> > > you're at the advanced level where homophobia is supreme wisdom.

> > >

> > > - d -

> >

> >

> > homophobia???

> >

> > you're touchy aren't you.

> >

> > not too smart but touchy.

> >

> > sorry to fuck with your tender heart sweetie.

> >

> > .b b.b.

 

 

 

 

>

> no, it's not that.

 

 

yes it is.

 

 

 

 

 

>

> it's that your exposing your prejudices as you go around undermining selves

that don't exist.

 

 

 

 

that's prejudicial regarding what i do.

 

if selves don't exist..

 

how the hell does this nonexistent self..

 

" undermine " other nonexistent " selves " ?

 

you're just writing words to write.

 

you don't know what your saying.

 

 

 

 

 

 

> i appreciate the energy you're putting into it, too.

>

> but it's getting repetitive at this point.

 

 

 

 

that shouldn't bother you.

 

all you ever do is repeat and repeat your same claptrap..

 

over and over again

 

besides..

 

i couldn't care less about what you do or don't appreciate.

 

as a matter of fact..

 

the thing (Danny) that you appreciate most..

 

is as far as i'm concerned an asshole.

 

far and away from appreciable.

 

 

 

 

>

> and the negativity of the name calling is getting stale.

 

 

 

everything you write is stale..old...common...wrong.

 

i thought from that that you enjoyed staleness.

 

you sure use it a lot.

 

 

 

>

> but keep it up, if it seems like it might help.

 

 

 

 

 

you need help.

 

i have no needs whatsoever.

 

i don't believe in help.

 

who's going to help who?

 

you speak with forked tongue nonexistent white man.

 

 

 

>

> i know, i know, there is no help for me.

 

 

 

i don't know and i don't care if there's help for " you " .

 

fuck your obsession and love affair with yourself.

 

it would be nauseating but for the fact that i am not to be nauseated.

 

 

 

>

> or maybe in a hundred years, or whatever.

 

 

 

 

time????

 

so now you think time is on your side?

 

it's all about and for Danny huh?

 

jesus you just can't get through that fucking thing can you?

 

 

> ;-)

>

> peace to you, sir.

>

> may you know via being the depth of peace that is.

>

> - Dan

 

 

 

you're so full of shit dan it reeks.

 

you think there is love and hate..war and peace..you and me..

 

it's all black and white to you.

 

and that..along with your need for " self " -image..

 

will keep " you " forever away from Truth.

 

there is nothing i or anyone can do for you.

 

no shit!

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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>

> you're so full of shit dan it reeks.

>

> you think there is love and hate..war and peace..you and me..

>

> it's all black and white to you.

>

> and that..along with your need for " self " -image..

>

> will keep " you " forever away from Truth.

 

And that's what " you " want.

 

> there is nothing i or anyone can do for you.

 

Exactly.

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > there's no belief here in what you say.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > that doesn't negate your stupidity though.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > you believe someone is out there, existing apart from you, who is

stupid?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - d -

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The word " you " suggests someone out there being addressed, and " I "

suggests someone out there doing the addressing.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thus, saying " you believe someone is out there, existing apart " is

the height of silliness ;-). But silly on ;-).

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > " Wax on... wax off. "

> > > > >

> > > > > Mr. Myagi, " The Karate Kid "

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > well since you girls believe there are no separate entities..

> > > >

> > > > this game playing..

> > > >

> > > > is flagrant masturbation.

> > > >

> > > > go wash your hands.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > here, bob, use this handrag.

> > >

> > > - d -

> >

> >

> > you are dyslexic.

> >

> > i said wash " your " hands not mine.

> >

> > and keep your filthy snot rag to yourself you filthy animal.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> touchy, touchy.

>

> oh wait, that's me.

>

> you're not touchy, touchy.

>

> okay, I got it right now.

>

> now, what was i supposed to do with this rag, again?

>

> - d -

 

 

well dan i think if you think real hard..

 

" think..think...think...like Eeyore of the Pooh tales.

 

i'm, sure you can think of somewhere you can stick your rag up.

 

or do you need that spelled out too?

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> well dan i think if you think real hard..

>

> " think..think...think...like Eeyore of the Pooh tales.

 

Ink... ink... ink... (dammit, this pen won't write any more tales).

 

> i'm, sure you can think of somewhere you can stick your rag up.

>

> or do you need that spelled out too?

 

For one who loves themselves so, ya sure hate yourself.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > I am not avoiding anything. If there the need to maintain a

> > belief....then..............................

>

> Then see that need clearly. That's all.

 

 

the need belongs to no one.

 

no one can see it.

 

are you unclear about this?

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > I am not avoiding anything. If there the need to maintain a

> > > belief....then..............................

> >

> > Then see that need clearly. That's all.

>

>

> the need belongs to no one.

>

> no one can see it.

>

> are you unclear about this?

>

> .b b.b.

 

Seeing can see it.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > you're so full of shit dan it reeks.

> >

> > you think there is love and hate..war and peace..you and me..

> >

> > it's all black and white to you.

> >

> > and that..along with your need for " self " -image..

> >

> > will keep " you " forever away from Truth.

>

> And that's what " you " want.

>

> > there is nothing i or anyone can do for you.

>

> Exactly.

 

 

 

of course you would agree.

 

you had to concur.

 

no choice was allotted to or for you about the matter.

 

it's sort of a Decree.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> of course you would agree.

>

> you had to concur.

>

> no choice was allotted to or for you about the matter.

>

> it's sort of a Decree.

>

> .b b.b.

 

Time giveth, time taketh away.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

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> > well dan i think if you think real hard..

> >

> > " think..think...think...like Eeyore of the Pooh tales.

>

> Ink... ink... ink... (dammit, this pen won't write any more tales).

>

> > i'm, sure you can think of somewhere you can stick your rag up.

> >

> > or do you need that spelled out too?

>

> For one who loves themselves so, ya sure hate yourself.

 

 

 

 

 

just how fucking much puppy love do you have for danny?

 

don't talk for him.

 

he doesn't need your protection or love.

 

you're no mother hen..

 

you're not danny's girl.

 

stand up for yourself and leave him do the same.

 

what's the matter with you?

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> you're no mother hen..

>

> you're not danny's girl.

>

> stand up for yourself and leave him do the same.

>

> what's the matter with you?

>

> .b b.b.

 

I'm neither standing up for Dan, nor for myself.

 

Words emit, fingers move, the " send " button is pressed.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I am not avoiding anything. If there the need to maintain a

> > > > belief....then..............................

> > >

> > > Then see that need clearly. That's all.

> >

> >

> > the need belongs to no one.

> >

> > no one can see it.

> >

> > are you unclear about this?

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> Seeing can see it.

 

 

you enjoy tripe like that huh?

 

are you a Sailor Bob or Adyashanti buff?

 

what the " it " " seeing " sees?

 

need?

 

does seeing need to see this?

 

what applesauce!

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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>

> you enjoy tripe like that huh?

>

> are you a Sailor Bob or Adyashanti buff?

 

Nope. Adyashanti's OK, but I don't read his stuff.

 

> what the " it " " seeing " sees?

 

Seeing sees itself.

 

> need?

>

> does seeing need to see this?

>

> what applesauce!

 

The stuff ya keep puking all over the list.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > of course you would agree.

> >

> > you had to concur.

> >

> > no choice was allotted to or for you about the matter.

> >

> > it's sort of a Decree.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> Time giveth, time taketh away.

 

 

time to take a break.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > you're no mother hen..

> >

> > you're not danny's girl.

> >

> > stand up for yourself and leave him do the same.

> >

> > what's the matter with you?

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> I'm neither standing up for Dan, nor for myself.

>

> Words emit, fingers move, the " send " button is pressed.

 

 

oh horseshit and you know it.

 

you're getting to be a silly romantic.

 

and a lover of science fiction.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > you enjoy tripe like that huh?

> >

> > are you a Sailor Bob or Adyashanti buff?

>

> Nope. Adyashanti's OK, but I don't read his stuff.

>

> > what the " it " " seeing " sees?

>

> Seeing sees itself.

>

> > need?

> >

> > does seeing need to see this?

> >

> > what applesauce!

>

> The stuff ya keep puking all over the list.

 

 

oh..you're offended.

 

you must be very pure..holy..important.

 

LOL!

 

..b b.b.