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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > there's no belief here in what you say.

> > >

> > > that doesn't negate your stupidity though.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > you believe someone is out there, existing apart from you, who is stupid?

> >

> >

> > - d -

>

>

> you're asking who?

>

> if you're asking anyone..there are two:

>

> the " asker " and the " asked " .

>

> are you truly this dull?

>

> is this dullness apart from you?

>

> are you trying to get your rocks off?

>

> LOL!

>

> .b b.b.

 

 

 

no doubt.

 

 

 

- d -

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> well since you girls believe there are no separate entities..

 

No, that's not right.. Wax on. I am a belief in a separate entity. Mmmmmm,

better. Wax off.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > there's no belief here in what you say.

> > > >

> > > > that doesn't negate your stupidity though.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > you believe someone is out there, existing apart from you, who is stupid?

> > >

> > >

> > > - d -

> >

> > The word " you " suggests someone out there being addressed, and " I " suggests

someone out there doing the addressing.

> >

> > Thus, saying " you believe someone is out there, existing apart " is the

height of silliness ;-). But silly on ;-).

>

>

> now girls!

>

> .b b.b.

 

girls will be boys and boys will be girls

 

it's a mixed up muddled up shook up world

 

except for lola.

 

 

lol. a.

 

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > d: i agree. that's all it is. and the personality being

referred to or labeled, isn't there. so, if that's understood, why put out

words that refer to that personality and characterize that person (who

supposedly isn't being seen as having a reality)?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > as you've pointed out, the world shows a great deal of hurt

inflicted in the service of what you have been calling " the inner entity " or

what I might call something like " the investment in maintaining a separate

self-sense. " so, it's surprising to see personalizing words of condescension

used on a list devoted to seeing through the imagined (the " inner psychological

entity " ). i tend to associate that kind of speech with actions that i have seen

occur that result in hurt, such as associated with the maintenance of separate

self-sense, or what you have called " ego " or " inner psychological entity " or

" disease. "

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Quite a paradox, eh? " There is no I, and *I* know more about it

than *you* do! " (chuckling)...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " Let's give 'em something to talk about " - Bonnie Raitt

> > > > > >

> > > > > > a self-contradiction, rather than a paradox.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " there is no I, no you, and nothing is happening, so therefore I can

do what I want. "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - d -

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > if there is no self..

> > > > >

> > > > > how the hell can there be " self-contradiction " ?

> > > > >

> > > > > you talk through your butt.

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > because there is a not-so-well hidden belief that a self exists, that is

denied to exist, in service of its self-demonstration.

> > > >

> > > > requiring dramatic confrontation of an other, who also is said not to

exist, as a way to justify the dramatics.

> > > >

> > > > - d -

> > >

> > >

> > > as the non-dual drama queen you should be in your glory then.

> > >

> > > LOL!

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > what's the point to continue to infer an other who " should be in his glory "

then?

>

>

>

> there is no point to anything.

>

> you are looking for " meaning " .

>

> there isn't any.

>

> no grand plan nor enlightened dan.

>

> bugger eh?

 

 

no problem at all.

 

there isn't any meaning, nor is there any meaning lacking.

 

no grand plan, and no lack of a grand plan.

 

no negation of anything, nothing to affirm.

 

 

> > you've said there is only one without a second.

>

>

> i did.

>

>

>

> >

> > so, without a second, what is the point of the post?

>

>

> there is no such thing as a point to the post.

>

> what is the point of your mother?

 

 

there isn't some knower of this somewhere.

 

nor is there lack of a knower.

 

 

> >

> > and I already know there is no point.

>

>

> no you don't or you wouldn't ask.

 

no you don't, or you wouldn't reply.

 

silly stuff.

 

> don't lie!

 

don't tell me what to do.

 

LOL.

 

>

> >

> > yet, .b b.b.'s posts aimed at " you, you, you " continue nonetheless.

> >

> > - d -

>

>

>

> " aimed " ????

>

> oh christ you're lost.

>

> you think it's all about " " you, you, you " ..

>

> and as ever you are wrong.

>

> .b b.b.

 

no, i don't think that.

 

you get very silly.

 

what's in that beer?

 

- d -

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > you don't have to " get there " .

> > >

> > > you're already there.

> >

> > No. You are not there.

> >

> > > i bet that nowhere town has a name and location.

> >

> > Cairo, London, Paris, Jakarta, Port Au Prince... all are here.

>

>

> LOL!

>

> you are crazy.

>

> .b b.b.

 

It is craziness, madness, insanity, to believe anything's " out there " .

 

There is nothing out there.

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > there's no belief here in what you say.

> > > >

> > > > that doesn't negate your stupidity though.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > you believe someone is out there, existing apart from you, who is stupid?

> > >

> > >

> > > - d -

> >

> >

> > you're asking who?

> >

> > if you're asking anyone..there are two:

> >

> > the " asker " and the " asked " .

> >

> > are you truly this dull?

> >

> > is this dullness apart from you?

> >

> > are you trying to get your rocks off?

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

>

>

> no doubt.

>

>

>

> - d -

 

 

agreed!

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > well since you girls believe there are no separate entities..

>

> No, that's not right.. Wax on. I am a belief in a separate entity. Mmmmmm,

better. Wax off.

 

 

sounds more like jacking off.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > well since you girls believe there are no separate entities..

> >

> > No, that's not right.. Wax on. I am a belief in a separate entity. Mmmmmm,

better. Wax off.

>

>

> sounds more like jacking off.

 

Whack-x-ing off. Wax off. Wax on. Wax off.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> it's amazing!

>

> i just knew that that song would be a fave of yours.

>

> LOL!

>

> .b b.b.

 

Not so amazing, considering it's one of your faves, eh?

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > there's no belief here in what you say.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > that doesn't negate your stupidity though.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > > > you believe someone is out there, existing apart from you, who is

stupid?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > - d -

> > > >

> > > > The word " you " suggests someone out there being addressed, and " I "

suggests someone out there doing the addressing.

> > > >

> > > > Thus, saying " you believe someone is out there, existing apart " is the

height of silliness ;-). But silly on ;-).

> > >

> > >

> > > now girls!

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > girls will be boys and boys will be girls

> >

> > it's a mixed up muddled up shook up world

> >

> > except for lola.

> >

> >

> > lol. a.

> >

> > - D -

>

>

> it's amazing!

>

> i just knew that that song would be a fave of yours.

>

> LOL!

>

> .b b.b.

 

now you hurt my feelings.

 

darn.

 

i guess i'm not enlightened like you.

 

you're at the advanced level where homophobia is supreme wisdom.

 

- d -

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > d: i agree. that's all it is. and the personality being

referred to or labeled, isn't there. so, if that's understood, why put out

words that refer to that personality and characterize that person (who

supposedly isn't being seen as having a reality)?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > as you've pointed out, the world shows a great deal of hurt

inflicted in the service of what you have been calling " the inner entity " or

what I might call something like " the investment in maintaining a separate

self-sense. " so, it's surprising to see personalizing words of condescension

used on a list devoted to seeing through the imagined (the " inner psychological

entity " ). i tend to associate that kind of speech with actions that i have seen

occur that result in hurt, such as associated with the maintenance of separate

self-sense, or what you have called " ego " or " inner psychological entity " or

" disease. "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Quite a paradox, eh? " There is no I, and *I* know more about it

than *you* do! " (chuckling)...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > " Let's give 'em something to talk about " - Bonnie Raitt

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > a self-contradiction, rather than a paradox.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " there is no I, no you, and nothing is happening, so therefore I

can do what I want. "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - d -

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > if there is no self..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > how the hell can there be " self-contradiction " ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > you talk through your butt.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > > > because there is a not-so-well hidden belief that a self exists, that

is denied to exist, in service of its self-demonstration.

> > > > >

> > > > > requiring dramatic confrontation of an other, who also is said not to

exist, as a way to justify the dramatics.

> > > > >

> > > > > - d -

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > as the non-dual drama queen you should be in your glory then.

> > > >

> > > > LOL!

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > what's the point to continue to infer an other who " should be in his

glory " then?

> >

> >

> >

> > there is no point to anything.

> >

> > you are looking for " meaning " .

> >

> > there isn't any.

> >

> > no grand plan nor enlightened dan.

> >

> > bugger eh?

>

>

> no problem at all.

>

> there isn't any meaning, nor is there any meaning lacking.

>

> no grand plan, and no lack of a grand plan.

>

> no negation of anything, nothing to affirm.

>

>

> > > you've said there is only one without a second.

> >

> >

> > i did.

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > so, without a second, what is the point of the post?

> >

> >

> > there is no such thing as a point to the post.

> >

> > what is the point of your mother?

>

>

> there isn't some knower of this somewhere.

>

> nor is there lack of a knower.

>

>

> > >

> > > and I already know there is no point.

> >

> >

> > no you don't or you wouldn't ask.

>

> no you don't, or you wouldn't reply.

>

> silly stuff.

>

> > don't lie!

>

> don't tell me what to do.

>

> LOL.

>

> >

> > >

> > > yet, .b b.b.'s posts aimed at " you, you, you " continue nonetheless.

> > >

> > > - d -

> >

> >

> >

> > " aimed " ????

> >

> > oh christ you're lost.

> >

> > you think it's all about " " you, you, you " ..

> >

> > and as ever you are wrong.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> no, i don't think that.

>

> you get very silly.

>

> what's in that beer?

>

> - d -

 

 

dan..

 

all you ever think about is dan and how dan comes off.

 

you come off as a dumb ass.

 

are you a drunk or stoner?

 

you sure bring that crap up a lot.

 

of course if you are either..

 

we would have a clearer understanding of why you talk like you do.

 

and of course you could even solicit pity..

 

if you are to continue on with your bullshit.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > there's no belief here in what you say.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > that doesn't negate your stupidity though.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > > > you believe someone is out there, existing apart from you, who is

stupid?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > - d -

> > > >

> > > > The word " you " suggests someone out there being addressed, and " I "

suggests someone out there doing the addressing.

> > > >

> > > > Thus, saying " you believe someone is out there, existing apart " is the

height of silliness ;-). But silly on ;-).

> > > >

> > >

> > > " Wax on... wax off. "

> > >

> > > Mr. Myagi, " The Karate Kid "

> >

> >

> > well since you girls believe there are no separate entities..

> >

> > this game playing..

> >

> > is flagrant masturbation.

> >

> > go wash your hands.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> here, bob, use this handrag.

>

> - d -

 

 

you are dyslexic.

 

i said wash " your " hands not mine.

 

and keep your filthy snot rag to yourself you filthy animal.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > you don't have to " get there " .

> > > >

> > > > you're already there.

> > >

> > > No. You are not there.

> > >

> > > > i bet that nowhere town has a name and location.

> > >

> > > Cairo, London, Paris, Jakarta, Port Au Prince... all are here.

> >

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > you are crazy.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> It is craziness, madness, insanity, to believe anything's " out there " .

>

> There is nothing out there.

 

 

maybe " out there " there is nothing.

 

" in here " there are plenty of goofs like you.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> dan..

>

> all you ever think about is dan and how dan comes off.

>

> you come off as a dumb ass.

>

> are you a drunk or stoner?

>

> you sure bring that crap up a lot.

>

> of course if you are either..

 

You, you, you, you, you, you, you, you....

 

Me!

 

Me-hee-hee-heeee....

 

I wanna talk about me

Wanna talk about I

Wanna talk about number one

Oh my me my

What I think, what I like, what I know, what I want, what I see

I like talking about you you you you, usually, but occasionally

I wanna talk about me (me,me,me,me- background singers)

I wanna talk about meeeeeeee (me,me- background singers)

(I wanna talk about me- background singers)mmmm me me me me

(I wanna talk about me- background singers)mmmm me me me me

You you you you you you you you you you you you you

 

I wanna talk about ME!

 

I wanna talk about me

Wanna talk about I

Wanna talk about number one

Oh my me my

What I think, what I like, what I know, what I want, what I see

I like talking about you, you, you, you, usually, but occasionally

I wanna talk about meeeeeeee (me,me,me,me-background singers)

I wanna talk about me (me,me,-background singers)

I wanna talk about me (me,me,me,me,me,me-background singers)

Oh me!

 

-- Toby Keith

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

 

> > here, bob, use this handrag.

> >

> > - d -

>

>

> you are dyslexic.

>

> i said wash " your " hands not mine.

>

> and keep your filthy snot rag to yourself you filthy animal.

>

> .b b.b.

 

(Slurping Bob's face)... mmm, delicious.

 

The slurper must slurp itself up.

 

Taste!

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > it's amazing!

> >

> > i just knew that that song would be a fave of yours.

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> Not so amazing, considering it's one of your faves, eh?

 

 

well swami..

 

your dummy crystal ball is fucked up.

 

i don't like that tune at all.

 

sorry to disappoint little girl.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > there's no belief here in what you say.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > that doesn't negate your stupidity though.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > you believe someone is out there, existing apart from you, who is

stupid?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - d -

> > > > >

> > > > > The word " you " suggests someone out there being addressed, and " I "

suggests someone out there doing the addressing.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thus, saying " you believe someone is out there, existing apart " is the

height of silliness ;-). But silly on ;-).

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > now girls!

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > girls will be boys and boys will be girls

> > >

> > > it's a mixed up muddled up shook up world

> > >

> > > except for lola.

> > >

> > >

> > > lol. a.

> > >

> > > - D -

> >

> >

> > it's amazing!

> >

> > i just knew that that song would be a fave of yours.

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> now you hurt my feelings.

>

> darn.

>

> i guess i'm not enlightened like you.

>

> you're at the advanced level where homophobia is supreme wisdom.

>

> - d -

 

 

homophobia???

 

you're touchy aren't you.

 

not too smart but touchy.

 

sorry to fuck with your tender heart sweetie.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > dan..

> >

> > all you ever think about is dan and how dan comes off.

> >

> > you come off as a dumb ass.

> >

> > are you a drunk or stoner?

> >

> > you sure bring that crap up a lot.

> >

> > of course if you are either..

>

> You, you, you, you, you, you, you, you....

>

> Me!

>

> Me-hee-hee-heeee....

>

> I wanna talk about me

> Wanna talk about I

> Wanna talk about number one

> Oh my me my

> What I think, what I like, what I know, what I want, what I see

> I like talking about you you you you, usually, but occasionally

> I wanna talk about me (me,me,me,me- background singers)

> I wanna talk about meeeeeeee (me,me- background singers)

> (I wanna talk about me- background singers)mmmm me me me me

> (I wanna talk about me- background singers)mmmm me me me me

> You you you you you you you you you you you you you

>

> I wanna talk about ME!

>

> I wanna talk about me

> Wanna talk about I

> Wanna talk about number one

> Oh my me my

> What I think, what I like, what I know, what I want, what I see

> I like talking about you, you, you, you, usually, but occasionally

> I wanna talk about meeeeeeee (me,me,me,me-background singers)

> I wanna talk about me (me,me,-background singers)

> I wanna talk about me (me,me,me,me,me,me-background singers)

> Oh me!

>

> -- Toby Keith

 

 

well whatever turns your crank.

 

??????????

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

>

> > > here, bob, use this handrag.

> > >

> > > - d -

> >

> >

> > you are dyslexic.

> >

> > i said wash " your " hands not mine.

> >

> > and keep your filthy snot rag to yourself you filthy animal.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> (Slurping Bob's face)... mmm, delicious.

>

> The slurper must slurp itself up.

>

> Taste!

 

 

keep that shit between you and danny boy.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > there's no belief here in what you say.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > that doesn't negate your stupidity though.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > you believe someone is out there, existing apart from you, who is

stupid?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - d -

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The word " you " suggests someone out there being addressed, and " I "

suggests someone out there doing the addressing.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thus, saying " you believe someone is out there, existing apart " is

the height of silliness ;-). But silly on ;-).

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > now girls!

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > girls will be boys and boys will be girls

> > > >

> > > > it's a mixed up muddled up shook up world

> > > >

> > > > except for lola.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > lol. a.

> > > >

> > > > - D -

> > >

> > >

> > > it's amazing!

> > >

> > > i just knew that that song would be a fave of yours.

> > >

> > > LOL!

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > now you hurt my feelings.

> >

> > darn.

> >

> > i guess i'm not enlightened like you.

> >

> > you're at the advanced level where homophobia is supreme wisdom.

> >

> > - d -

>

>

> homophobia???

>

> you're touchy aren't you.

>

> not too smart but touchy.

>

> sorry to fuck with your tender heart sweetie.

>

> .b b.b.

 

no, it's not that.

 

it's that your exposing your prejudices as you go around undermining selves that

don't exist.

 

i appreciate the energy you're putting into it, too.

 

but it's getting repetitive at this point.

 

and the negativity of the name calling is getting stale.

 

but keep it up, if it seems like it might help.

 

i know, i know, there is no help for me.

 

or maybe in a hundred years, or whatever.

 

;-)

 

peace to you, sir.

 

may you know via being the depth of peace that is.

 

- Dan

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > there's no belief here in what you say.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > that doesn't negate your stupidity though.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > you believe someone is out there, existing apart from you, who is

stupid?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - d -

> > > > >

> > > > > The word " you " suggests someone out there being addressed, and " I "

suggests someone out there doing the addressing.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thus, saying " you believe someone is out there, existing apart " is the

height of silliness ;-). But silly on ;-).

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > " Wax on... wax off. "

> > > >

> > > > Mr. Myagi, " The Karate Kid "

> > >

> > >

> > > well since you girls believe there are no separate entities..

> > >

> > > this game playing..

> > >

> > > is flagrant masturbation.

> > >

> > > go wash your hands.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > here, bob, use this handrag.

> >

> > - d -

>

>

> you are dyslexic.

>

> i said wash " your " hands not mine.

>

> and keep your filthy snot rag to yourself you filthy animal.

>

> .b b.b.

 

touchy, touchy.

 

oh wait, that's me.

 

you're not touchy, touchy.

 

okay, I got it right now.

 

now, what was i supposed to do with this rag, again?

 

- d -

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Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:53 PM

Re: Question to bbb

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> I was going to say something but I am not sure wethere you are being

> satiric

> or serious...up to what point.. There is people in this fucking world.

> Perhaps not as " before " but sorrow is real.

> -geo-

 

Yes. Your sorrow, which is the only sorrow there is.

 

You refuse to see that others are yourself, and you are them.

 

Your sorrow brings sorrow to their doorstep.

 

Stop it.

-tim-

 

Either sorrow is me/mine or not even sorrow is me.

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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>

> -

> Tim G.

> Nisargadatta

> Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:53 PM

> Re: Question to bbb

>

>

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > I was going to say something but I am not sure wethere you are being

> > satiric

> > or serious...up to what point.. There is people in this fucking world.

> > Perhaps not as " before " but sorrow is real.

> > -geo-

>

> Yes. Your sorrow, which is the only sorrow there is.

>

> You refuse to see that others are yourself, and you are them.

>

> Your sorrow brings sorrow to their doorstep.

>

> Stop it.

> -tim-

>

> Either sorrow is me/mine or not even sorrow is me.

> -geo-

 

To perceive sorrow in others, you must 'relate'... must literally feel their

sorrow yourself.

 

The notion that not feeling someone else's sorrow makes one cold and callous is

absurd. Feeling the sorrow of another typically brings up anger toward the

other, for " making me feel that way " .

 

Compassion comes with a clear, calm mind, like a mirror.

 

One sees the situation exactly as it is.

 

Now compassionate action is possible.

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Tuesday, June 23, 2009 7:34 PM

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> ...does this mean i am a saint who has no reactivity? no, i'm not claiming

> > that. in terms of being a person, i have faults like any other person.

> > but

> > the person is a label in a world that labels, and the world is formed by

> > labels (concepts) of the person.

> > -dan-

> >

> > This is the point I was adressing when you said that I was figgurin it

> > all

> > out (hipocrisy and the rest....). That is the way usually happens with

> > stuff that really should matter with us. We escape. This is not

> > personal.

> > A person is ONLY just a label for onlookers, never for us ourselves. If

> > we

> > react like a person it is because there was some kind of a contraction

> > and

> > the consequent fragmentation. I am looking at myself. I can never react

> > like a person who feels ofended..or anything else, without the imagined

> > dark spot. The dark spot of observation. One CAN NOT see that dark

> > spot -

> > but our reactions betray us. I dont know what you make of this.....so i

> > will stop.

> > -geo-

>

> what i make of it is that it's good stuff.

>

> also this:

>

> i am looking at the contraction, so to speak, at the fragementation.

>

> it is not " my " contraction, or someone else's, there is not a possessor of

> it. the contraction, fragmentation, is the attempt to possess, the attempt

> to have a location from which to possess.

>

> what is looking is not fragmentable.

>

> i am not looking from the contraction, or within the contraction.

>

> the contraction is the result of memory, of experience, and is memory, is

> the past.

>

> what is looking, is not the past.

>

> labels, word meanings, are the past.

>

> - d -

>

> That is not the way it happens! When the contraction happens there is

> blindness. We are unable to see it!. There is light or no light at all.

> There is no dimed light in this issue, only courage to see. What happens

> is

> that right after the contraction, when there is the remembering of it we

> say: oh...I wasnt really in darkness BECAUSE light is always here - but

> that

> is already in the conceptual field....the looking that is not from the

> past

> is conceptual at that time....then maybe some time later we wake up. All

> this talk of nobady here, there..is the same thing: it has been seen some

> time before...probably will be sen later...but most of the time is just a

> kind of wannabe.

> -ego-

 

please look at this carefully, sir.

 

the awareness is never of the past.

 

never.

 

it can't be.

 

there is nothing opposing it to blind it.

 

it is not a personal possession, and not the possession of an organism.

 

geo> What I read shows that there is awareness, here and there.

==

 

you apparently have a belief supporting the idea that a certain organism

will see and another organism will not see.

 

this belief itself is the blindness to which you refer.

 

geo> The belief is the blindness.

==

 

this awareness is not divided.

 

it is not more in one location and less in another.

 

there is no barrier to it, for it, or of it.

 

beliefs don't stop it from being.

 

beliefs are involved in attempts to make what is, other than what it is.

 

that is the contraction.

 

that attempt.

 

there is no other than what it is.

 

there is only what is.

 

- d -

 

There is no belief here or there.

-geo-

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Tuesday, June 23, 2009 7:38 PM

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

>

> -

> Tim G.

> Nisargadatta

> Tuesday, June 23, 2009 7:13 PM

> Re: Question to bbb

>

>

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > words can be pretty dangerous, I guess ;-). (???) Your own words that

> > you

> > say that only you have writen all over the list?

> > -geo-

>

> Again, looking at " the other " .

>

> This gets nowhere.

> -tim-

>

> I did not write words can be pretty dangerous, I guess ;-). Please tell

> me how come?

> -ego-

 

Again, asking " the other " .

 

This gets nowhere.

-tim-

 

No. No other.What I question is wether tim and geo are actualy out there

always. Or sometimes through the words I read it is shown that the writer

caries beliefs, concepts. He just believes there is no other. The difference

may seen subtle but it is not.

-geo-

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