Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:07 PM Re: ? Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > When it's clear that the body and world are in Geo, rather than Geo > > > being > > > in them, all is clear. > > > > you both are in Disney World. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Ohh..that? Thats when tim flipped off....I am here alright.. :>)) > > -geo- > > Flipped off? out..flipped out. ..b b.b. Out of what and where out to? Ahhh...I see.... non-dual flipping is different, rather peculiar -geo- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 24/6/2009 12:11:56 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:11 PM Re: ? Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Tim G. > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:59 AM > Re: ? > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > lose that soapy and sappy pseudo philosophy. > > > > > > > > eat your gruel.. > > > > > > > > wash your hands and your bowl. > > > > > > > > clean out your ears and your bowels. > > > > > > > > stop imagining silly shit and thinkig it profound. > > > > > > > > it's not. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Actually, I agree, it's imaginary silly shit :-). > > > > > > it doesn't require your agreement dan.. > > > > oh wait.. > > > > it's tim.. > > > > see there timmy..i told you.. > > > > you're getting dan's dis-ease. > > Better than Bob's. > > > LOL LOL LOL is that a roman numeral? ..b b.b. LOL yea... something like fifty O fifty ...roman digital counting -geo- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 24/6/2009 12:18:00 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2009 - Tim G. Nisargadatta Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:15 PM Re: ? Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > Ohh..that? Thats when tim flipped off....I am here alright.. :>)) > > -geo- > > Flipped off? > > No...no...no...no,no,no...sorry. I flipped off. I mixed things up a litlle > :>)) > -ego- Any clue how often this " you/me " mixup happens? Here's a hint: about half the time. Surprised at all? No..I have noticed some time ago... -geo- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 24/6/2009 12:21:02 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > Once again, assuming identification with a body was intended. > > -tim- > > > > Is bbb pushing some button, tim? > > -ego- > > ... And where would that be located? > -tim- > > Maybe in tims case it is where tim feels his no-knowledge is > questioned...and he beguins to doubt. > -geo- Tim's case is Geo's case. Inquire into Geo, and leave Tim to inquire into himself. Waste of time to keep repeating it, I know, as you're obviously not listening at all and don't care. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2009 - Tim G. Nisargadatta Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:40 PM Re: ? Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > Once again, assuming identification with a body was intended. > > -tim- > > > > Is bbb pushing some button, tim? > > -ego- > > ... And where would that be located? > -tim- > > Maybe in tims case it is where tim feels his no-knowledge is > questioned...and he beguins to doubt. > -geo- Tim's case is Geo's case. Inquire into Geo, and leave Tim to inquire into himself. Waste of time to keep repeating it, I know, as you're obviously not listening at all and don't care. -tim- Tim...I am listening, but you dont have to repeat that so much. It is obvious. Anything I tell you..... I have. There is no other world. But we are talking of tims (in my world) case.....remember? -egg- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 24/6/2009 12:51:42 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2009 - geo Nisargadatta Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:57 PM Re: Re: ? - Tim G. Nisargadatta Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:40 PM Re: ? Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > Once again, assuming identification with a body was intended. > > -tim- > > > > Is bbb pushing some button, tim? > > -ego- > > ... And where would that be located? > -tim- > > Maybe in tims case it is where tim feels his no-knowledge is > questioned...and he beguins to doubt. > -geo- Tim's case is Geo's case. Inquire into Geo, and leave Tim to inquire into himself. Waste of time to keep repeating it, I know, as you're obviously not listening at all and don't care. -tim- Tim...I am listening, but you dont have to repeat that so much. It is obvious. Anything I tell you..... I have. There is no other world. But we are talking of tims (in my world) case.....remember? But why do you think i am not listening and dont care? -egg- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 24/6/2009 12:51:42 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 24/6/2009 13:00:56 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Tim G. > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:15 PM > Re: ? > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > Ohh..that? Thats when tim flipped off....I am here alright.. :>)) > > > -geo- > > > > Flipped off? > > > > No...no...no...no,no,no...sorry. I flipped off. I mixed things up a litlle > > :>)) > > -ego- > > Any clue how often this " you/me " mixup happens? > > Here's a hint: about half the time. > > Surprised at all? > > No..I have noticed some time ago... > -geo- what 'you " is there to be surprised anyway? ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > that's more than i can say for a lot of these nondual lists, that are pretty much dead, and those that contribute have almost zero insight into anything. > > i'd rate you as having at least 50% of a decent insight. > > now, if i can just help you to get that other 50%, what a great understanding that will be! > > may the great turtle heap peace upon thy head, > > - d - > > This not clear. So... you are iterpreting wether another has insight? Is that possible? I think that it is possible...but when I said that, there was not agreement. > Is it posible to recognise when there is a person behind the writen words? To recognise conceptual thinking? I think it is. > -geo- Geo - My words above, if taken in the context of other words I've offered, and the words .b b.b. offered, point to this: I'm joking. If one reads this and laughs, laughter is. If not, no laughter has arisen. If taken seriously, seriousness has arisen. Ah well, that is how it goes with jokes. - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nor would any entity that can be named know, bobby. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nor is there any named entity that can be addressed... Dan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! :-). > > > > > > > > > > > > didn't stop you, did it, Tim? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh you girls are just ever so cute! > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > thanks honey. > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > money is all the thanks i'll understand. > > > > > > fuck your good intentions.. > > > > > > they're worthless. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > funny. > > > > ain't that the truth ... > > > > - d - > > > yes it is. > > i am astonished that this first of the little truths.. > > has made it through that hammerhead. > > .b b.b. LOL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i say you " think " you're doing something. > > > > > > > > > > i say neither the thought nor that which is thought about is real. > > > > > > > > neither is the thought real that neither the thought nor that which is thought about is real. > > > > > > > > ad infinitum. > > > > > > > > ad nauseum. > > > > > > > > ommmmmmmmmmmmm........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is delusion. > > > > > > > > thought labeling thought delusion, is delusion. > > > > > > > > > if there weren't we would have told you. > > > > > > > > > > you are that delusion. > > > > > > > > > > we have thus told you. > > > > > > > > > > you are unable to understand. > > > > > > > > > > this is understandable. > > > > > > > > i don't need to understand. > > > > > > > > this is laughable. > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > > > > i agree. > > > > > > that posting of yours that you end with " this is laughable. " .. > > > > > > is just that. > > > > > > and who talked about " needing " to understand? > > > > > > you don't need to understand. > > > > > > you don't. > > > > > > that's what i said. > > > > > > fuck need. > > > > > > you're too needy of " self " esteem. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > bob, there's nothing wrong with self-esteem. > > > > it doesn't mean there's an actual self anywhere. > > > > BULLSHIT! > > > > > > > > it's just a positive feeling about being, expressed through a human. > > > > nothing wrong with that. > > > > and WHO has that " feeling " DANNY? there isn't anyone separate, standing back from all, that " has " anything. > > negative self-esteem leads to lots of crap. > > > > you've taken yourself to that shit heap. > > > > > > if everyone in the world had positive self-esteem, it wouldn't be a bad thing. > > > > > " everyone " ???? > > c'mon! > > how many? > > you try and suck and blow at the same time. > > you're a phony. not really. i'm capable of speaking conventionally about the world and people, that's all. you seem to have a lot of nondual rules for others. if they violate your rules you act all offended. what bullshit. you talk however you want. don't tell you what to do. but you tell others what to do. it's absurd. you seem to suffer from Adi Da-ism. > > kids would be raised in healthy ways more often, which is far from the case now. > > > > > you would know. > > > > > > but, be that as it may, if you feel that attempts to undermine self-esteem are going to get rid of selves that don't exist, have at it, old chap. > > > > > you obsess over what selves that don't exist think or say? > > you're deluded. > > your words convict and confuse you. > > from all of your contradictory statements.. > > it must be assumed that you don't know what you're talking about. > > you just MUST go on mustn't you? > > you're a slave to your nonexistent self and it's pride. you get twisted up in your concepts, bob, who does not exist apart. you infer a someone who is a slave to a nonexistent self, and you say you are not a slave to a nonexistent self. the way you speak infers a self separate from an other, by your condemnation of an other, at the same time you say there is no other for you. white man speak with forked tongue. > no matter how stupid it sounds you just go on and on. > > a twisted and tormented Energizer bunny.. > > which believes He Is Risen as the Easter Bunny... > > bringing treats and enlightenment to His children. > > get fucking real. you sound offended by what an other is doing, and you object to it. yet you say for you there are no selves and others. contradiction. > > > at least you speak your mind. > > > > it would appear you have little of that to speak of. > > > > > > > > that's more than i can say for a lot of these nondual lists, that are pretty much dead, and those that contribute have almost zero insight into anything. > > > > > you spend all your time trolling lists? > > you know all about them too huh? i have checked out different lists. > fuck you ARE a wonder danny. > > i think one has to wonder about guys like you. wonder. yes, you are full of wonder, i remember you said so. > > i'd rate you as having at least 50% of a decent insight. > > > > it's an all or nothing proposition dummy. > > you can't be a " little bit " enlightened. > > you like parts and levels. > > you'll never " get " what means " One " . so serious, bobby. so ready to pounce. you miss the humor. > > now, if i can just help you to get that other 50%, what a great understanding that will be! > > > > > you can't help anyone. > > no one can help you. no kidding. humor is lost on you. you use words in an angry way. you will say that you're not angry and there is no you. > you are so stuck on yourself it's laughable. > > you are " EnDarkened " sport. > > you believe it's all about Danny and his gifts. it's not all about anything. > ROFLMAO! > > > > > may the great turtle heap peace upon thy head, > > > > - d - > > > > may you get a life. may the peace that is you be understood now. - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > that's more than i can say for a lot of these nondual lists, that are pretty much dead, and those that contribute have almost zero insight into anything. > > > > i'd rate you as having at least 50% of a decent insight. > > > > now, if i can just help you to get that other 50%, what a great understanding that will be! > > > > may the great turtle heap peace upon thy head, > > > > - d - > > > > This not clear. So... you are iterpreting wether another has insight? Is that possible? I think that it is possible...but when I said that, there was not agreement. > > Is it posible to recognise when there is a person behind the writen words? To recognise conceptual thinking? I think it is. > > -geo- > > Geo - > > My words above, if taken in the context of other words I've offered, and the words .b b.b. offered, point to this: I'm joking. > > If one reads this and laughs, laughter is. > > If not, no laughter has arisen. > > If taken seriously, seriousness has arisen. > > Ah well, that is how it goes with jokes. > > - D - that's a serious take on a joke. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:04 PM Re: ? Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i say you " think " you're doing something. > > > > > > > > > > i say neither the thought nor that which is thought about is real. > > > > > > > > neither is the thought real that neither the thought nor that which > > > > is thought about is real. > > > > > > > > ad infinitum. > > > > > > > > ad nauseum. > > > > > > > > ommmmmmmmmmmmm........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is delusion. > > > > > > > > thought labeling thought delusion, is delusion. > > > > > > > > > if there weren't we would have told you. > > > > > > > > > > you are that delusion. > > > > > > > > > > we have thus told you. > > > > > > > > > > you are unable to understand. > > > > > > > > > > this is understandable. > > > > > > > > i don't need to understand. > > > > > > > > this is laughable. > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > > > > i agree. > > > > > > that posting of yours that you end with " this is laughable. " .. > > > > > > is just that. > > > > > > and who talked about " needing " to understand? > > > > > > you don't need to understand. > > > > > > you don't. > > > > > > that's what i said. > > > > > > fuck need. > > > > > > you're too needy of " self " esteem. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > bob, there's nothing wrong with self-esteem. > > > > it doesn't mean there's an actual self anywhere. > > > > BULLSHIT! > > > > > > > > it's just a positive feeling about being, expressed through a human. > > > > nothing wrong with that. > > > > and WHO has that " feeling " DANNY? there isn't anyone separate, standing back from all, that " has " anything. > > negative self-esteem leads to lots of crap. > > > > you've taken yourself to that shit heap. > > > > > > if everyone in the world had positive self-esteem, it wouldn't be a bad > > thing. > > > > > " everyone " ???? > > c'mon! > > how many? > > you try and suck and blow at the same time. > > you're a phony. not really. i'm capable of speaking conventionally about the world and people, that's all. you seem to have a lot of nondual rules for others. if they violate your rules you act all offended. what bullshit. you talk however you want. don't tell you what to do. but you tell others what to do. it's absurd. you seem to suffer from Adi Da-ism. > > kids would be raised in healthy ways more often, which is far from the > > case now. > > > > > you would know. > > > > > > but, be that as it may, if you feel that attempts to undermine > > self-esteem are going to get rid of selves that don't exist, have at it, > > old chap. > > > > > you obsess over what selves that don't exist think or say? > > you're deluded. > > your words convict and confuse you. > > from all of your contradictory statements.. > > it must be assumed that you don't know what you're talking about. > > you just MUST go on mustn't you? > > you're a slave to your nonexistent self and it's pride. you get twisted up in your concepts, bob, who does not exist apart. you infer a someone who is a slave to a nonexistent self, and you say you are not a slave to a nonexistent self. the way you speak infers a self separate from an other, by your condemnation of an other, at the same time you say there is no other for you. white man speak with forked tongue. > no matter how stupid it sounds you just go on and on. > > a twisted and tormented Energizer bunny.. > > which believes He Is Risen as the Easter Bunny... > > bringing treats and enlightenment to His children. > > get fucking real. you sound offended by what an other is doing, and you object to it. yet you say for you there are no selves and others. contradiction. > > > at least you speak your mind. > > > > it would appear you have little of that to speak of. > > > > > > > > that's more than i can say for a lot of these nondual lists, that are > > pretty much dead, and those that contribute have almost zero insight > > into anything. > > > > > you spend all your time trolling lists? > > you know all about them too huh? i have checked out different lists. > fuck you ARE a wonder danny. > > i think one has to wonder about guys like you. wonder. yes, you are full of wonder, i remember you said so. > > i'd rate you as having at least 50% of a decent insight. > > > > it's an all or nothing proposition dummy. > > you can't be a " little bit " enlightened. > > you like parts and levels. > > you'll never " get " what means " One " . so serious, bobby. so ready to pounce. you miss the humor. > > now, if i can just help you to get that other 50%, what a great > > understanding that will be! > > > > > you can't help anyone. > > no one can help you. no kidding. humor is lost on you. you use words in an angry way. you will say that you're not angry and there is no you. > you are so stuck on yourself it's laughable. > > you are " EnDarkened " sport. > > you believe it's all about Danny and his gifts. it's not all about anything. > ROFLMAO! > > > > > may the great turtle heap peace upon thy head, > > > > - d - > > > > may you get a life. may the peace that is you be understood now. - D - Aint this funny?!! All the time claiming nobady is, I am not, you are not...and then this sooooo interesting exchange. lol -egg- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:31 PM Re: ? Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > that's more than i can say for a lot of these nondual lists, that are > > pretty much dead, and those that contribute have almost zero insight > > into anything. > > > > i'd rate you as having at least 50% of a decent insight. > > > > now, if i can just help you to get that other 50%, what a great > > understanding that will be! > > > > may the great turtle heap peace upon thy head, > > > > - d - > > > > This not clear. So... you are iterpreting wether another has insight? Is > > that possible? I think that it is possible...but when I said that, there > > was not agreement. > > Is it posible to recognise when there is a person behind the writen > > words? To recognise conceptual thinking? I think it is. > > -geo- > > Geo - > > My words above, if taken in the context of other words I've offered, and > the words .b b.b. offered, point to this: I'm joking. -d- Tell you frankly....this whole thing you call conversation is a joke. -gge- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i say you " think " you're doing something. > > > > > > > > > > > > i say neither the thought nor that which is thought about is real. > > > > > > > > > > neither is the thought real that neither the thought nor that which is thought about is real. > > > > > > > > > > ad infinitum. > > > > > > > > > > ad nauseum. > > > > > > > > > > ommmmmmmmmmmmm........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is delusion. > > > > > > > > > > thought labeling thought delusion, is delusion. > > > > > > > > > > > if there weren't we would have told you. > > > > > > > > > > > > you are that delusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > we have thus told you. > > > > > > > > > > > > you are unable to understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > this is understandable. > > > > > > > > > > i don't need to understand. > > > > > > > > > > this is laughable. > > > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i agree. > > > > > > > > that posting of yours that you end with " this is laughable. " .. > > > > > > > > is just that. > > > > > > > > and who talked about " needing " to understand? > > > > > > > > you don't need to understand. > > > > > > > > you don't. > > > > > > > > that's what i said. > > > > > > > > fuck need. > > > > > > > > you're too needy of " self " esteem. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > bob, there's nothing wrong with self-esteem. > > > > > > it doesn't mean there's an actual self anywhere. > > > > > > > > BULLSHIT! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's just a positive feeling about being, expressed through a human. > > > > > > nothing wrong with that. > > > > > > > > and WHO has that " feeling " DANNY? > > there isn't anyone separate, standing back from all, that " has " anything. > > > > > > > negative self-esteem leads to lots of crap. > > > > > > > > you've taken yourself to that shit heap. > > > > > > > > > > if everyone in the world had positive self-esteem, it wouldn't be a bad thing. > > > > > > > > > > " everyone " ???? > > > > c'mon! > > > > how many? > > > > you try and suck and blow at the same time. > > > > you're a phony. > > not really. > > i'm capable of speaking conventionally about the world and people, that's all. > > you seem to have a lot of nondual rules for others. > > if they violate your rules you act all offended. > > what bullshit. > > you talk however you want. > > don't tell you what to do. > > but you tell others what to do. > > it's absurd. > > you seem to suffer from Adi Da-ism. > > > > > kids would be raised in healthy ways more often, which is far from the case now. > > > > > > > > > > you would know. > > > > > > > > > > > but, be that as it may, if you feel that attempts to undermine self-esteem are going to get rid of selves that don't exist, have at it, old chap. > > > > > > > > > > you obsess over what selves that don't exist think or say? > > > > you're deluded. > > > > your words convict and confuse you. > > > > from all of your contradictory statements.. > > > > it must be assumed that you don't know what you're talking about. > > > > you just MUST go on mustn't you? > > > > you're a slave to your nonexistent self and it's pride. > > you get twisted up in your concepts, bob, who does not exist apart. > > you infer a someone who is a slave to a nonexistent self, and you say you are not a slave to a nonexistent self. > > the way you speak infers a self separate from an other, by your condemnation of an other, at the same time you say there is no other for you. > > white man speak with forked tongue. > > > > > no matter how stupid it sounds you just go on and on. > > > > a twisted and tormented Energizer bunny.. > > > > which believes He Is Risen as the Easter Bunny... > > > > bringing treats and enlightenment to His children. > > > > get fucking real. > > you sound offended by what an other is doing, and you object to it. > > yet you say for you there are no selves and others. > > contradiction. > > > > > > at least you speak your mind. > > > > > > > > it would appear you have little of that to speak of. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's more than i can say for a lot of these nondual lists, that are pretty much dead, and those that contribute have almost zero insight into anything. > > > > > > > > > > you spend all your time trolling lists? > > > > you know all about them too huh? > > i have checked out different lists. > > > > fuck you ARE a wonder danny. > > > > i think one has to wonder about guys like you. > > wonder. > > yes, you are full of wonder, i remember you said so. > > > > i'd rate you as having at least 50% of a decent insight. > > > > > > > > it's an all or nothing proposition dummy. > > > > you can't be a " little bit " enlightened. > > > > you like parts and levels. > > > > you'll never " get " what means " One " . > > so serious, bobby. > > so ready to pounce. > > you miss the humor. > > > > > now, if i can just help you to get that other 50%, what a great understanding that will be! > > > > > > > > > > you can't help anyone. > > > > no one can help you. > > no kidding. > > humor is lost on you. > > you use words in an angry way. > > you will say that you're not angry and there is no you. > > > > you are so stuck on yourself it's laughable. > > > > you are " EnDarkened " sport. > > > > you believe it's all about Danny and his gifts. > > it's not all about anything. > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > may the great turtle heap peace upon thy head, > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > may you get a life. > > may the peace that is you be understood now. > > - D - BULL! shit. ..b b.b. 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Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > If I am reading and having insight I am able to identify words as > > > being > > > conceptual - then there is no belief for geo. > > > > Is one even aware of oneself while reading? > > > > Or is one's mind all " out there " with others, imagining to feel their feelings and think their thoughts? > > > > > If geo is not having insight he is not able to discern anything > > > correctly. > > > > When projecting " others " , " oneself " is out of touch (thus, a sense of relief from oneself). > > > > When projecting " oneself " , " others " are out of touch (thus, loneliness). > > > > See how this works? > > > > The only " solution " is to stop investing in the game. > > > > Allow the whole kit 'n kaboodle to drop away. > > > > Now. shit you're starting to get " dan " -infected. > > look.. > > you are here. > > you are a flesh and blood body. > > you are going to live and die. > > you will be forgotten. > > it doesn't matter. > > there is no Big Secret. > > this no-self..no-world..no me..no you crap is phony. > > it's fucking make believe. > > but believe it if it gets you through the lonely night. > > but it's a bullshit belief. > > don't tell dn. > > he doesn't listen anyway. > > he's the biggest Make Believer of All. > > LOL! > > > .b b.b. living without belief doesn't require existing as a flesh and blood body, or tying not to exist as a flesh and blood body, or existing as something else, or not existing. it's just without belief. without any of those beliefs. no explanation. no expectation. just what is. period. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > If I am reading and having insight I am able to identify words as > > > > being > > > > conceptual - then there is no belief for geo. > > > > > > Is one even aware of oneself while reading? > > > > > > Or is one's mind all " out there " with others, imagining to feel their feelings and think their thoughts? > > > > > > > If geo is not having insight he is not able to discern anything > > > > correctly. > > > > > > When projecting " others " , " oneself " is out of touch (thus, a sense of relief from oneself). > > > > > > When projecting " oneself " , " others " are out of touch (thus, loneliness). > > > > > > See how this works? > > > > > > The only " solution " is to stop investing in the game. > > > > > > Allow the whole kit 'n kaboodle to drop away. > > > > > > Now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shit you're starting to get " dan " -infected. > > > > look.. > > > > you are here. > > > > you are a flesh and blood body. > > > > you are going to live and die. > > > > you will be forgotten. > > > > it doesn't matter. > > > > there is no Big Secret. > > > > this no-self..no-world..no me..no you crap is phony. > > > > it's fucking make believe. > > > > but believe it if it gets you through the lonely night. > > > > but it's a bullshit belief. > > > > don't tell dn. > > > > he doesn't listen anyway. > > > > he's the biggest Make Believer of All. > > > > LOL! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > living without belief doesn't require existing as a flesh and blood body, or tying not to exist as a flesh and blood body, or existing as something else, or not existing. > > it's just without belief. without any of those beliefs. > > no explanation. no expectation. > > just what is. > > period. > > - d - tell your mother you're not a flesh and blood body. she'll hit you on your nonexistent head. she didn't go through all that labor for some airy fairy. get real dan. you should be fucking ashamed of this horseshit. what a creep. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > Tim G. > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:45 AM > > Re: ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > oh so that's what you boys are playing. > > > > > > no fucking wonder i see you as losers. > > > > You see us as losers, because you see yourself as a loser. > > -tim- > > > > HMMmmm....you both are become cleverer each day. > > -geo- > > > > actually.. > > i don't know anything. > > i'm proud of that. > > that's what makes me a loser. > > i'm proud of that. > > which makes me a know nothing. > > nothing and anything that's me. > > now Tim..he thinks he's everything. > > well.. > > what can you say? > > .b b.b. you are a loser. the others you've been calling loser are you, the loser. nothing to be proud of. just what is. you didn't make it, and you can't take anything away from it. yes, you know nothing. yes, no bananas today. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > Aint this funny?!! All the time claiming nobady is, I am not, you are > not...and then this sooooo interesting exchange. > lol > -egg- you are missing what i've been saying, apparently. i'm not making a claim. the " no " to which you refer is not a negation of anything. the " no " negates all, and is negated. there is nothing to affirm as existing, and *nothing to affirm as not existing.* any exchange is free to " happen. " all that arises, arises. no exception. awareness is the " how " of arisings, and the " to " and " from. " all arisings. no exceptions. awareness is never divided from awareness. not sure what you don't follow about this. i'm doing my best to spell it out. there aren't rules in this for what should arise or not arise. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I am reading and having insight I am able to identify words as > > > > > being > > > > > conceptual - then there is no belief for geo. > > > > > > > > Is one even aware of oneself while reading? > > > > > > > > Or is one's mind all " out there " with others, imagining to feel their feelings and think their thoughts? > > > > > > > > > If geo is not having insight he is not able to discern anything > > > > > correctly. > > > > > > > > When projecting " others " , " oneself " is out of touch (thus, a sense of relief from oneself). > > > > > > > > When projecting " oneself " , " others " are out of touch (thus, loneliness). > > > > > > > > See how this works? > > > > > > > > The only " solution " is to stop investing in the game. > > > > > > > > Allow the whole kit 'n kaboodle to drop away. > > > > > > > > Now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shit you're starting to get " dan " -infected. > > > > > > look.. > > > > > > you are here. > > > > > > you are a flesh and blood body. > > > > > > you are going to live and die. > > > > > > you will be forgotten. > > > > > > it doesn't matter. > > > > > > there is no Big Secret. > > > > > > this no-self..no-world..no me..no you crap is phony. > > > > > > it's fucking make believe. > > > > > > but believe it if it gets you through the lonely night. > > > > > > but it's a bullshit belief. > > > > > > don't tell dn. > > > > > > he doesn't listen anyway. > > > > > > he's the biggest Make Believer of All. > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > living without belief doesn't require existing as a flesh and blood body, or tying not to exist as a flesh and blood body, or existing as something else, or not existing. > > > > it's just without belief. without any of those beliefs. > > > > no explanation. no expectation. > > > > just what is. > > > > period. > > > > - d - > > > tell your mother you're not a flesh and blood body. > > she'll hit you on your nonexistent head. > > she didn't go through all that labor for some airy fairy. > > get real dan. > > you should be fucking ashamed of this horseshit. > > what a creep. > > .b b.b. what don't you understand about no belief? the " no " or the " belief " ? if someone hits me on the head, then that " hitting on the head " is what is at the instant it is. there's nothing to affirm or negate. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan_berkow " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I am reading and having insight I am able to identify words as > > > > > > being > > > > > > conceptual - then there is no belief for geo. > > > > > > > > > > Is one even aware of oneself while reading? > > > > > > > > > > Or is one's mind all " out there " with others, imagining to feel their feelings and think their thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > If geo is not having insight he is not able to discern anything > > > > > > correctly. > > > > > > > > > > When projecting " others " , " oneself " is out of touch (thus, a sense of relief from oneself). > > > > > > > > > > When projecting " oneself " , " others " are out of touch (thus, loneliness). > > > > > > > > > > See how this works? > > > > > > > > > > The only " solution " is to stop investing in the game. > > > > > > > > > > Allow the whole kit 'n kaboodle to drop away. > > > > > > > > > > Now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shit you're starting to get " dan " -infected. > > > > > > > > look.. > > > > > > > > you are here. > > > > > > > > you are a flesh and blood body. > > > > > > > > you are going to live and die. > > > > > > > > you will be forgotten. > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter. > > > > > > > > there is no Big Secret. > > > > > > > > this no-self..no-world..no me..no you crap is phony. > > > > > > > > it's fucking make believe. > > > > > > > > but believe it if it gets you through the lonely night. > > > > > > > > but it's a bullshit belief. > > > > > > > > don't tell dn. > > > > > > > > he doesn't listen anyway. > > > > > > > > he's the biggest Make Believer of All. > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > living without belief doesn't require existing as a flesh and blood body, or tying not to exist as a flesh and blood body, or existing as something else, or not existing. > > > > > > it's just without belief. without any of those beliefs. > > > > > > no explanation. no expectation. > > > > > > just what is. > > > > > > period. > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > tell your mother you're not a flesh and blood body. > > > > she'll hit you on your nonexistent head. > > > > she didn't go through all that labor for some airy fairy. > > > > get real dan. > > > > you should be fucking ashamed of this horseshit. > > > > what a creep. > > > > .b b.b. > > what don't you understand about no belief? i understand that you don't undertstand.. that this no belief horseshit.. is just another second rate belief. not to worry dan. you are very average. > the " no " or the " belief " ? see above. > > if someone hits me on the head, then that " hitting on the head " is what is at the instant it is. so then your mother DID hit that numbskull of yours. things are clearing up for us now. your not making sense is..well..making sense considering that wallop. yea mom! too bad about the kid though. it didn't help..it made things worse. > there's nothing to affirm or negate. > > > - d - you're no fucking lawyer or politician danny. you watch too much tv. ROFLMAO! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > Tim G. > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:45 AM > > > Re: ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > oh so that's what you boys are playing. > > > > > > > > no fucking wonder i see you as losers. > > > > > > You see us as losers, because you see yourself as a loser. > > > -tim- > > > > > > HMMmmm....you both are become cleverer each day. > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > actually.. > > > > i don't know anything. > > > > i'm proud of that. > > > > that's what makes me a loser. > > > > i'm proud of that. > > > > which makes me a know nothing. > > > > nothing and anything that's me. > > > > now Tim..he thinks he's everything. > > > > well.. > > > > what can you say? > > > > .b b.b. > > you are a loser. > > the others you've been calling loser are you, the loser. > > nothing to be proud of. > > just what is. > > you didn't make it, and you can't take anything away from it. > > yes, you know nothing. > > yes, no bananas today. > > - d - kid.. this is getting unbelievably boring and stupid. but one can't believe a no belief unbelievability. one can only say it's dumb. you're not the one though daniel. you're dan but you're ashamed of it. so..you make believe you are not dan..or dan's body. you make a piss poor god son. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > Aint this funny?!! All the time claiming nobady is, I am not, you are > > not...and then this sooooo interesting exchange. > > lol > > -egg- > > you are missing what i've been saying, apparently. i wish i did. it's stupid. but no i haven't missed a beat danny. and your not in time with the band at all. matter of fact.. you can't even play at all. maybe you should consider a change? but you don't have a choice so fuck it. > > i'm not making a claim. HORSESHIT! > > the " no " to which you refer is not a negation of anything. > > the " no " negates all, and is negated. > > there is nothing to affirm as existing, and *nothing to affirm as not existing.* > > any exchange is free to " happen. " > > all that arises, arises. > > no exception. > > awareness is the " how " of arisings, and the " to " and " from. " > > all arisings. > > no exceptions. > > awareness is never divided from awareness. > > not sure what you don't follow about this. > > i'm doing my best to spell it out. > > there aren't rules in this for what should arise or not arise. > > - d - this whole piece above is incredibly stunned. if graded.. your logic and insight would be seen.. as nonexistent as you say you are. you're poor ass attempt at sounding profound.. makes us giggle. it's like reading an Elmer Fudd treatise on the REAL BUGS. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan_berkow " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I am reading and having insight I am able to identify words as > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > conceptual - then there is no belief for geo. > > > > > > > > > > > > Is one even aware of oneself while reading? > > > > > > > > > > > > Or is one's mind all " out there " with others, imagining to feel their feelings and think their thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > If geo is not having insight he is not able to discern anything > > > > > > > correctly. > > > > > > > > > > > > When projecting " others " , " oneself " is out of touch (thus, a sense of relief from oneself). > > > > > > > > > > > > When projecting " oneself " , " others " are out of touch (thus, loneliness). > > > > > > > > > > > > See how this works? > > > > > > > > > > > > The only " solution " is to stop investing in the game. > > > > > > > > > > > > Allow the whole kit 'n kaboodle to drop away. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shit you're starting to get " dan " -infected. > > > > > > > > > > look.. > > > > > > > > > > you are here. > > > > > > > > > > you are a flesh and blood body. > > > > > > > > > > you are going to live and die. > > > > > > > > > > you will be forgotten. > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter. > > > > > > > > > > there is no Big Secret. > > > > > > > > > > this no-self..no-world..no me..no you crap is phony. > > > > > > > > > > it's fucking make believe. > > > > > > > > > > but believe it if it gets you through the lonely night. > > > > > > > > > > but it's a bullshit belief. > > > > > > > > > > don't tell dn. > > > > > > > > > > he doesn't listen anyway. > > > > > > > > > > he's the biggest Make Believer of All. > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > living without belief doesn't require existing as a flesh and blood body, or tying not to exist as a flesh and blood body, or existing as something else, or not existing. > > > > > > > > it's just without belief. without any of those beliefs. > > > > > > > > no explanation. no expectation. > > > > > > > > just what is. > > > > > > > > period. > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > tell your mother you're not a flesh and blood body. > > > > > > she'll hit you on your nonexistent head. > > > > > > she didn't go through all that labor for some airy fairy. > > > > > > get real dan. > > > > > > you should be fucking ashamed of this horseshit. > > > > > > what a creep. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > what don't you understand about no belief? i understand that you don't undertstand.. > > that this no belief horseshit.. > > is just another second rate belief. > > not to worry dan. > > you are very average. > > > > > the " no " or the " belief " ? > > > > see above. > > > > > > > > if someone hits me on the head, then that " hitting on the head " is what is at the instant it is. > > > > > so then your mother DID hit that numbskull of yours. > > things are clearing up for us now. > > your not making sense is..well..making sense considering that wallop. > > yea mom! > > too bad about the kid though. > > it didn't help..it made things worse. > > > > there's nothing to affirm or negate. > > > > > > - d - > > > you're no fucking lawyer or politician danny. > > you watch too much tv. > > ROFLMAO! > > .b b.b. gobbledegook. is it just me, or are you typing gobbledegook? - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Tim G. > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:45 AM > > > > Re: ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > oh so that's what you boys are playing. > > > > > > > > > > no fucking wonder i see you as losers. > > > > > > > > You see us as losers, because you see yourself as a loser. > > > > -tim- > > > > > > > > HMMmmm....you both are become cleverer each day. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > actually.. > > > > > > i don't know anything. > > > > > > i'm proud of that. > > > > > > that's what makes me a loser. > > > > > > i'm proud of that. > > > > > > which makes me a know nothing. > > > > > > nothing and anything that's me. > > > > > > now Tim..he thinks he's everything. > > > > > > well.. > > > > > > what can you say? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > you are a loser. > > > > the others you've been calling loser are you, the loser. > > > > nothing to be proud of. > > > > just what is. > > > > you didn't make it, and you can't take anything away from it. > > > > yes, you know nothing. > > > > yes, no bananas today. > > > > - d - > > > kid.. > > this is getting unbelievably boring and stupid. > > but one can't believe a no belief unbelievability. > > one can only say it's dumb. > > you're not the one though daniel. > > you're dan but you're ashamed of it. > > so..you make believe you are not dan..or dan's body. > > you make a piss poor god son. > > :-) > > .b b.b. so, now i'm your son? when did i go from girlie to sonny? - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > Aint this funny?!! All the time claiming nobady is, I am not, you are > > > not...and then this sooooo interesting exchange. > > > lol > > > -egg- > > > > you are missing what i've been saying, apparently. > > > > > > i wish i did. > > it's stupid. > > but no i haven't missed a beat danny. > > and your not in time with the band at all. > > matter of fact.. > > you can't even play at all. > > maybe you should consider a change? > > but you don't have a choice so fuck it. > > > > > > > > i'm not making a claim. > > > > HORSESHIT! > > > > > > > > the " no " to which you refer is not a negation of anything. > > > > the " no " negates all, and is negated. > > > > there is nothing to affirm as existing, and *nothing to affirm as not existing.* > > > > any exchange is free to " happen. " > > > > all that arises, arises. > > > > no exception. > > > > awareness is the " how " of arisings, and the " to " and " from. " > > > > all arisings. > > > > no exceptions. > > > > awareness is never divided from awareness. > > > > not sure what you don't follow about this. > > > > i'm doing my best to spell it out. > > > > there aren't rules in this for what should arise or not arise. > > > > - d - > > > > this whole piece above is incredibly stunned. > > if graded.. your logic and insight would be seen.. > > as nonexistent as you say you are. > > you're poor ass attempt at sounding profound.. > > makes us giggle. > > it's like reading an Elmer Fudd treatise on the REAL BUGS. > > LOL! > > .b b.b. same old, same old. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
