Guest guest Report post Posted June 11, 2009 > > > > > > Isn't it more appropriate > > > to the seeker's search to > > > escape from the trappings > > > of concept, not seek them? > > > > > > Jeff > > > > P: What does a seeker without concepts > > seek? > > > > > > > > J: silence P: Haha! Silence seems to make seekers talk nonstop about finding silence. What do you say, Tim and the Supremes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 11, 2009 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Isn't it more appropriate > > > > to the seeker's search to > > > > escape from the trappings > > > > of concept, not seek them? > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > P: What does a seeker without concepts > > > seek? > > > > > > > > > > > > > J: silence > > P: Haha! Silence seems to make seekers > talk nonstop about finding silence. What > do you say, Tim and the Supremes? D: Any silence that can be broken by words is not much of a silence I hear this silence when crossing the street and cars are honking or when someone is yelling that their dog ran into the woods or when I have to speak to someone who made a billing mistake and it is going to be broken by words posted on a computer screen? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 11, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't it more appropriate > > > > > to the seeker's search to > > > > > escape from the trappings > > > > > of concept, not seek them? > > > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > P: What does a seeker without concepts > > > > seek? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J: silence > > > > P: Haha! Silence seems to make seekers > > talk nonstop about finding silence. What > > do you say, Tim and the Supremes? > > D: Any silence that can be broken by words > > is not much of a silence > > I hear this silence when crossing the street and cars are > honking > > or when someone is yelling that their dog ran into the woods > > or when I have to speak to someone who made a billing mistake > > and it is going to be broken by words posted on a computer > screen? ^^ Agreed, for whatever it's worth. I guess " Tim and the Supremes " (who are supposed to understand they don't exist, according to Pete the Supreme) have spoken. Err, I mean " Silenced " ;-). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 11, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't it more appropriate > > > > > to the seeker's search to > > > > > escape from the trappings > > > > > of concept, not seek them? > > > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > P: What does a seeker without concepts > > > > seek? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J: silence > > > > P: Haha! Silence seems to make seekers > > talk nonstop about finding silence. What > > do you say, Tim and the Supremes? > > D: Any silence that can be broken by words > > is not much of a silence > > I hear this silence when crossing the street and cars are honking > > or when someone is yelling that their dog ran into the woods > > or when I have to speak to someone who made a billing mistake > > and it is going to be broken by words posted on a computer screen? if that car that you don't hear honking.. runs your silly ass down.. don't call a lawyer. words on computer. laughing. at you. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 11, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't it more appropriate > > > > > > to the seeker's search to > > > > > > escape from the trappings > > > > > > of concept, not seek them? > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > P: What does a seeker without concepts > > > > > seek? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J: silence > > > > > > P: Haha! Silence seems to make seekers > > > talk nonstop about finding silence. What > > > do you say, Tim and the Supremes? > > > > D: Any silence that can be broken by words > > > > is not much of a silence > > > > I hear this silence when crossing the street and cars are > > honking > > > > or when someone is yelling that their dog ran into the woods > > > > or when I have to speak to someone who made a billing mistake > > > > and it is going to be broken by words posted on a computer > > screen? > > ^^ Agreed, for whatever it's worth. I guess " Tim and the Supremes " (who are supposed to understand they don't exist, according to Pete the Supreme) have spoken. Err, I mean " Silenced " ;-). settle down kids. y'all get a grip! Barry Gordy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 11, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:42 AM Re: Silence Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Isn't it more appropriate > > > > to the seeker's search to > > > > escape from the trappings > > > > of concept, not seek them? > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > P: What does a seeker without concepts > > > seek? > > > > > > > > > > > > > J: silence > > P: Haha! Silence seems to make seekers > talk nonstop about finding silence. What > do you say, Tim and the Supremes? D: Any silence that can be broken by words is not much of a silence I hear this silence when crossing the street and cars are honking or when someone is yelling that their dog ran into the woods or when I have to speak to someone who made a billing mistake and it is going to be broken by words posted on a computer screen? === There is a silence not realated to hearing at all. avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 11/6/2009 10:19:43 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 11, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:42 AM > Re: Silence > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't it more appropriate > > > > > to the seeker's search to > > > > > escape from the trappings > > > > > of concept, not seek them? > > > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > P: What does a seeker without concepts > > > > seek? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J: silence > > > > P: Haha! Silence seems to make seekers > > talk nonstop about finding silence. What > > do you say, Tim and the Supremes? > > D: Any silence that can be broken by words > > is not much of a silence > > I hear this silence when crossing the street and cars are honking > > or when someone is yelling that their dog ran into the woods > > or when I have to speak to someone who made a billing mistake > > and it is going to be broken by words posted on a computer screen? > === >G: There is a silence not realated to hearing at all. P: There you go again, talking about silence. There is a silence which is total absence of any mental activity, including understanding, or knowing that silence. No one can type without understanding, although, Tim and the Supremes come close, still no cigar. > > avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 > Tested on: 11/6/2009 10:19:43 > avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 11, 2009 - cerosoul Nisargadatta Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:00 AM Re: Silence Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:42 AM > Re: Silence > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't it more appropriate > > > > > to the seeker's search to > > > > > escape from the trappings > > > > > of concept, not seek them? > > > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > P: What does a seeker without concepts > > > > seek? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J: silence > > > > P: Haha! Silence seems to make seekers > > talk nonstop about finding silence. What > > do you say, Tim and the Supremes? > > D: Any silence that can be broken by words > > is not much of a silence > > I hear this silence when crossing the street and cars are honking > > or when someone is yelling that their dog ran into the woods > > or when I have to speak to someone who made a billing mistake > > and it is going to be broken by words posted on a computer screen? > === >G: There is a silence not realated to hearing at all. P: There you go again, talking about silence. There is a silence which is total absence of any mental activity, including understanding, or knowing that silence. No one can type without understanding, although, Tim and the Supremes come close, still no cigar. geo> A silence that is " disturbed " by mental activity is a conceptual silence. avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 > Tested on: 11/6/2009 10:19:43 > avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 11/6/2009 11:11:00 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 11, 2009 > > P: There you go again, talking about silence. > There is a silence which is total absence of > any mental activity, including understanding, > or knowing that silence. No one can type > without understanding, although, Tim and the > Supremes come close, still no cigar. > > geo> A silence that is " disturbed " by mental activity is a conceptual > silence. P: What part of STFU, you don't understand? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. > > Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 > > Tested on: 11/6/2009 10:19:43 > > avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > > > > avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 > Tested on: 11/6/2009 11:11:00 > avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 11, 2009 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > > > > > P: There you go again, talking about silence. > > There is a silence which is total absence of > > any mental activity, including understanding, > > or knowing that silence. No one can type > > without understanding, although, Tim and the > > Supremes come close, still no cigar. > > > > geo> A silence that is " disturbed " by mental activity is a conceptual > > silence. > > P: What part of STFU, you don't understand? " There is a silence which is total absence.. of any mental acivity.. including understanding.. " dat be de part dat not be understandin'. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 11, 2009 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > > > > > P: There you go again, talking about silence. > > There is a silence which is total absence of > > any mental activity, including understanding, > > or knowing that silence. No one can type > > without understanding, although, Tim and the > > Supremes come close, still no cigar. > > > > geo> A silence that is " disturbed " by mental activity is a conceptual > > silence. > > P: What part of STFU, you don't understand? He hasn't uttered a word. You must believe he exists ;-). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 11, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > P: There you go again, talking about silence. > > > There is a silence which is total absence of > > > any mental activity, including understanding, > > > or knowing that silence. No one can type > > > without understanding, although, Tim and the > > > Supremes come close, still no cigar. > > > > > > geo> A silence that is " disturbed " by mental activity is a conceptual > > > silence. > > > > P: What part of STFU, you don't understand? " There is a silence which is total absence.. > > of any mental acivity.. > > including understanding.. " > > > dat be de part dat not be understandin'. > > > .b b.b. " Nondual understanding " is not mental activity. It's impervious to interference from mental activity, which seems to be the point Pete is missing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 11, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: There you go again, talking about silence. > > > > There is a silence which is total absence of > > > > any mental activity, including understanding, > > > > or knowing that silence. No one can type > > > > without understanding, although, Tim and the > > > > Supremes come close, still no cigar. > > > > > > > > geo> A silence that is " disturbed " by mental activity is a conceptual > > > > silence. > > > > > > P: What part of STFU, you don't understand? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " There is a silence which is total absence.. > > > > of any mental acivity.. > > > > including understanding.. " > > > > > > dat be de part dat not be understandin'. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > " Nondual understanding " is not mental activity. > > It's impervious to interference from mental activity, which seems > to be the point Pete is missing. Probably because he " hasn't gotten it " . And he wants to have gotten it. So he can be " Pete the Supreme " . Which is precisely his " not having gotten it " ;-). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:42 AM > Re: Silence > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't it more appropriate > > > > > to the seeker's search to > > > > > escape from the trappings > > > > > of concept, not seek them? > > > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > P: What does a seeker without concepts > > > > seek? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J: silence > > > > P: Haha! Silence seems to make seekers > > talk nonstop about finding silence. What > > do you say, Tim and the Supremes? > > D: Any silence that can be broken by words > > is not much of a silence > > I hear this silence when crossing the street and cars are honking > > or when someone is yelling that their dog ran into the woods > > or when I have to speak to someone who made a billing mistake > > and it is going to be broken by words posted on a computer screen? > === > There is a silence not realated to hearing at all. --- it doesn't require an ear that is why people who hear with their ears miss it - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:42 AM > > Re: Silence > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't it more appropriate > > > > > > to the seeker's search to > > > > > > escape from the trappings > > > > > > of concept, not seek them? > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > P: What does a seeker without concepts > > > > > seek? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J: silence > > > > > > P: Haha! Silence seems to make seekers > > > talk nonstop about finding silence. What > > > do you say, Tim and the Supremes? > > > > D: Any silence that can be broken by words > > > > is not much of a silence > > > > I hear this silence when crossing the street and cars are honking > > > > or when someone is yelling that their dog ran into the woods > > > > or when I have to speak to someone who made a billing mistake > > > > and it is going to be broken by words posted on a computer screen? > > === > > >G: There is a silence not realated to hearing at all. > > P: There you go again, talking about silence. > There is a silence which is total absence of > any mental activity, including understanding, > or knowing that silence. No one can type > without understanding, although, Tim and the > Supremes come close, still no cigar. Everything that happens, happens from stillness. All activity happens from nothing. It's not a matter of getting a cigar. And sure, many are trying to get the cigar. But all their activity doesn't change what is. Because all the activity in all the universes arises from the inactive. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > cerosoul > Nisargadatta > Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:00 AM > Re: Silence > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:42 AM > > Re: Silence > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't it more appropriate > > > > > > to the seeker's search to > > > > > > escape from the trappings > > > > > > of concept, not seek them? > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > P: What does a seeker without concepts > > > > > seek? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J: silence > > > > > > P: Haha! Silence seems to make seekers > > > talk nonstop about finding silence. What > > > do you say, Tim and the Supremes? > > > > D: Any silence that can be broken by words > > > > is not much of a silence > > > > I hear this silence when crossing the street and cars are honking > > > > or when someone is yelling that their dog ran into the woods > > > > or when I have to speak to someone who made a billing mistake > > > > and it is going to be broken by words posted on a computer screen? > > === > > >G: There is a silence not realated to hearing at all. > > P: There you go again, talking about silence. > There is a silence which is total absence of > any mental activity, including understanding, > or knowing that silence. No one can type > without understanding, although, Tim and the > Supremes come close, still no cigar. > > geo> A silence that is " disturbed " by mental activity is a conceptual > silence. yes. there is a silence that is enforced on the brain by pushing away activity for a while. that is a superficial silence, a concept-oriented silence, and requires an action (to control thought). the deeper silence is not of the brain. it is not the absence of brain activity. it involves no action and has nothing to do with controlling anything. it is not a matter of having something not happening (such as thought, or experience, or a body-mind). it is true inaction. not the temporary absence of something. the void which is of infinite colors. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > > > > > P: There you go again, talking about silence. > > There is a silence which is total absence of > > any mental activity, including understanding, > > or knowing that silence. No one can type > > without understanding, although, Tim and the > > Supremes come close, still no cigar. > > > > geo> A silence that is " disturbed " by mental activity is a conceptual > > silence. > > P: What part of STFU, you don't understand? The part where it's not I that shuts the fuck up. Shutting the fuck up just happens, or it doesn't. It's not a matter of someone telling someone else, who then STFU. Buddha called it 'nirvana,' cessation. Jesus said, 'many are called by silence, but few STFU.' - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > P: There you go again, talking about silence. > > > There is a silence which is total absence of > > > any mental activity, including understanding, > > > or knowing that silence. No one can type > > > without understanding, although, Tim and the > > > Supremes come close, still no cigar. > > > > > > geo> A silence that is " disturbed " by mental activity is a conceptual > > > silence. > > > > P: What part of STFU, you don't understand? > > He hasn't uttered a word. > > You must believe he exists ;-). But you must not believe Pete exists. So then, but he, but you, but ... Aw, STFU. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:42 AM > > Re: Silence > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't it more appropriate > > > > > > to the seeker's search to > > > > > > escape from the trappings > > > > > > of concept, not seek them? > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > P: What does a seeker without concepts > > > > > seek? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J: silence > > > > > > P: Haha! Silence seems to make seekers > > > talk nonstop about finding silence. What > > > do you say, Tim and the Supremes? > > > > D: Any silence that can be broken by words > > > > is not much of a silence > > > > I hear this silence when crossing the street and cars are honking > > > > or when someone is yelling that their dog ran into the woods > > > > or when I have to speak to someone who made a billing mistake > > > > and it is going to be broken by words posted on a computer screen? > > === > > There is a silence not realated to hearing at all. > > --- > > it doesn't require an ear > > that is why people who hear with their ears miss it > > - d - that's because there are no such things as people with ears to hear. when the ears can hear there are no more people pusses. pluck your magic twanger froggy. ..b b.b. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > P: There you go again, talking about silence. > > > There is a silence which is total absence of > > > any mental activity, including understanding, > > > or knowing that silence. No one can type > > > without understanding, although, Tim and the > > > Supremes come close, still no cigar. > > > > > > geo> A silence that is " disturbed " by mental activity is a conceptual > > > silence. > > > > P: What part of STFU, you don't understand? > > The part where it's not I that shuts the fuck up. > > Shutting the fuck up just happens, or it doesn't. > > It's not a matter of someone telling someone else, who then STFU. > > Buddha called it 'nirvana,' cessation. > > Jesus said, 'many are called by silence, but few STFU.' > > - D - didn't they know how to STFU? why listen then? STFU. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > dan330033 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:42 AM > > > Re: Silence > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't it more appropriate > > > > > > > to the seeker's search to > > > > > > > escape from the trappings > > > > > > > of concept, not seek them? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > P: What does a seeker without concepts > > > > > > seek? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J: silence > > > > > > > > P: Haha! Silence seems to make seekers > > > > talk nonstop about finding silence. What > > > > do you say, Tim and the Supremes? > > > > > > D: Any silence that can be broken by words > > > > > > is not much of a silence > > > > > > I hear this silence when crossing the street and cars are honking > > > > > > or when someone is yelling that their dog ran into the woods > > > > > > or when I have to speak to someone who made a billing mistake > > > > > > and it is going to be broken by words posted on a computer screen? > > > === > > > There is a silence not realated to hearing at all. > > > > --- > > > > it doesn't require an ear > > > > that is why people who hear with their ears miss it > > > > - d - > > > that's because there are no such things as people with ears to hear. > > when the ears can hear there are no more people pusses. > > pluck your magic twanger froggy. > > .b b.b. > > .b b.b. fuck your mangled tragic porgy. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: There you go again, talking about silence. > > > > There is a silence which is total absence of > > > > any mental activity, including understanding, > > > > or knowing that silence. No one can type > > > > without understanding, although, Tim and the > > > > Supremes come close, still no cigar. > > > > > > > > geo> A silence that is " disturbed " by mental activity is a conceptual > > > > silence. > > > > > > P: What part of STFU, you don't understand? > > > > The part where it's not I that shuts the fuck up. > > > > Shutting the fuck up just happens, or it doesn't. > > > > It's not a matter of someone telling someone else, who then STFU. > > > > Buddha called it 'nirvana,' cessation. > > > > Jesus said, 'many are called by silence, but few STFU.' > > > > - D - > > > didn't they know how to STFU? > > why listen then? > > STFU. > > .b b.b. I'm listening. So STFU. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > dan330033 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:42 AM > > > > Re: Silence > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't it more appropriate > > > > > > > > to the seeker's search to > > > > > > > > escape from the trappings > > > > > > > > of concept, not seek them? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: What does a seeker without concepts > > > > > > > seek? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J: silence > > > > > > > > > > P: Haha! Silence seems to make seekers > > > > > talk nonstop about finding silence. What > > > > > do you say, Tim and the Supremes? > > > > > > > > D: Any silence that can be broken by words > > > > > > > > is not much of a silence > > > > > > > > I hear this silence when crossing the street and cars are honking > > > > > > > > or when someone is yelling that their dog ran into the woods > > > > > > > > or when I have to speak to someone who made a billing mistake > > > > > > > > and it is going to be broken by words posted on a computer screen? > > > > === > > > > There is a silence not realated to hearing at all. > > > > > > --- > > > > > > it doesn't require an ear > > > > > > that is why people who hear with their ears miss it > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > that's because there are no such things as people with ears to hear. > > > > when the ears can hear there are no more people pusses. > > > > pluck your magic twanger froggy. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > .b b.b. > > fuck your mangled tragic porgy. > > - d - better. keep working on it kid. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: There you go again, talking about silence. > > > > > There is a silence which is total absence of > > > > > any mental activity, including understanding, > > > > > or knowing that silence. No one can type > > > > > without understanding, although, Tim and the > > > > > Supremes come close, still no cigar. > > > > > > > > > > geo> A silence that is " disturbed " by mental activity is a conceptual > > > > > silence. > > > > > > > > P: What part of STFU, you don't understand? > > > > > > The part where it's not I that shuts the fuck up. > > > > > > Shutting the fuck up just happens, or it doesn't. > > > > > > It's not a matter of someone telling someone else, who then STFU. > > > > > > Buddha called it 'nirvana,' cessation. > > > > > > Jesus said, 'many are called by silence, but few STFU.' > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > didn't they know how to STFU? > > > > why listen then? > > > > STFU. > > > > .b b.b. > > I'm listening. > > So STFU. > > - d - what you put out comes back. in spades. what goes round comes round. what's ignorant remains so. no matter how you STFU. you're breathing proof. psss. ah danny... " we " are not real. STFU means nothing to nothing. if there is " someone " to STFU or not.. the entire thread of the Great Conversation is torn. stay muted and stupid. a different way of no path or direction.. turns away from your arrow of time. you will never know. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 14, 2009 > > yes. > > there is a silence that is enforced on the brain by pushing away activity for a while. > > that is a superficial silence, a concept-oriented silence, and requires an action (to control thought). > > the deeper silence is not of the brain. > > it is not the absence of brain activity. > > it involves no action and has nothing to do with controlling anything. > > it is not a matter of having something not happening (such as thought, or experience, or a body-mind). > > it is true inaction. > > not the temporary absence of something. > > the void which is of infinite colors. > > - d - P: You kick words around well, but only dust flies around. All them abstract terms are just fancy jibe. To me, it's like this, words do nothing but to prompt one to search. It's just as if someone said to a blind person, " search this room and you'll find the most wonderful thing. " The person searches for years and finds the room is empty, but it also finds that the search has changed his/her brain, and that the changed brain, and the empty room turned out to be the most " wonderful thing. " > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
