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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > it's beautiful.

> > > >

> > > > being this vulnerability.

> > > >

> > > > that is empty of itself ...

> > > >

> > > > -- d --

> > >

> > >

> > > ignore that thought.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > There's nobody separate from it to ignore it.

> >

> > " Ignore that thought " was another thought following the original thought.

>

>

> ignore what you believe is so.

>

> .b b.b.

 

 

belief system

 

dies here

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > it's beautiful.

> > > > >

> > > > > being this vulnerability.

> > > > >

> > > > > that is empty of itself ...

> > > > >

> > > > > -- d --

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ignore that thought.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > There's nobody separate from it to ignore it.

> > >

> > > " Ignore that thought " was another thought following the original thought.

> >

> >

> > ignore what you believe is so.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> I don't believe anything is so.

>

> I am the belief that I am so.

 

i am desparately attempting to believe

 

i can believe

 

without being desparate

 

to believe

 

I am

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> dan330033

> Nisargadatta

> Saturday, June 06, 2009 9:12 PM

> Re: The problem

>

>

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " Michael Adamson " <adamson@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > JKrishnamurti.org - Daily Quote

> >

> > Silence is not built up through practice or pursuit!

> >

> > Disciplines, renunciations, detachments, rituals, the practice of virtue -

> > all these, however noble, are the process of thought, and thought can only

> > work toward an end, toward an achievement, which is ever the known.

> > Achievement is security, the self-protective certainty of the known. To

> > seek security in that which is nameless is to deny it. The security that

> > may be found is only in the projection of the past, of the known. For this

> > reason, the mind must be entirely and deeply silent; but this silence

> > cannot be purchased through sacrifice, sublimation, or suppression. This

> > silence comes when the mind is no longer seeking, no longer caught in the

> > process of becoming. This silence is not cumulative, it may not be built

> > up through practice. This silence must be as unknown to the mind as the

> > timeless, for if the mind experiences the silence, then there is the

> > experiencer who is the result of past experiences, who is cognizant of a

> > past silence, and what is experienced by th e experiencer is merely a

> > self-projected repetition. The mind can never experience the new, and so

> > the mind must be utterly still.

> >

> > The mind can be still only when it is not experiencing, that is, when it

> > is not terming or naming, recording or storing up in memory. This naming

> > and recording is a constant process of the different layers of

> > consciousness, not merely of the upper mind. But, when the superficial

> > mind is quiet, the deeper mind can offer up its intimations. When the

> > whole consciousness is silent and tranquil, free from all becoming - which

> > is spontaneity - then only does the immeasurable come into being.

> >

> > Commentaries on Living, Series I - 44

>

> except the immeasurable that came into being, never came into being.

> d

>

> geo> That shows the relativity of words

>

> wonder what held him back from going body/mind totally into/as the black

> hole where he heard the silence?

> d

>

> geo> That shows the absolutness of preconception

>

> or maybe he did, and left a puppet image to speak words to audiences ...

> - d -

 

That which can't be shown, wasn't shown.

 

- d -

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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>

> -

> dan330033

> Nisargadatta

> Saturday, June 06, 2009 9:52 PM

> Re: The problem

>

>

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > roberibus111

> > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > Saturday, June 06, 2009 12:59 PM

> > > > > Re: The problem

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > Michael Adamson

> > > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > > Saturday, June 06, 2009 12:34 PM

> > > > > > Re: The problem

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > JKrishnamurti.org - Daily Quote

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Silence is not built up through practice or pursuit!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Disciplines, renunciations, detachments, rituals, the practice of

> > > > > > virtue -

> > > > > > all these, however noble, are the process of thought, and thought

> > > > > > can only

> > > > > > work toward an end, toward an achievement, which is ever the

> > > > > > known.

> > > > > > Achievement is security, the self-protective certainty of the

> > > > > > known. To

> > > > > > seek

> > > > > > security in that which is nameless is to deny it. The security

> > > > > > that may be

> > > > > > found is only in the projection of the past, of the known. For

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > reason,

> > > > > > the mind must be entirely and deeply silent; but this silence

> > > > > > cannot be

> > > > > > purchased through sacrifice, sublimation, or suppression. This

> > > > > > silence

> > > > > > comes

> > > > > > when the mind is no longer seeking, no longer caught in the

> > > > > > process of

> > > > > > becoming. This silence is not cumulative, it may not be built up

> > > > > > through

> > > > > > practice. This silence must be as unknown to the mind as the

> > > > > > timeless, for

> > > > > > if the mind experiences the silence, then there is the experiencer

> > > > > > who is

> > > > > > the result of past experiences, who is cognizant of a past

> > > > > > silence, and

> > > > > > what

> > > > > > is experienced by the experiencer is merely a self-projected

> > > > > > repetition.

> > > > > > The

> > > > > > mind can never experience the new, and so the mind must be utterly

> > > > > > still.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The mind can be still only when it is not experiencing, that is,

> > > > > > when it

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > not terming or naming, recording or storing up in memory. This

> > > > > > naming and

> > > > > > recording is a constant process of the different layers of

> > > > > > consciousness,

> > > > > > not merely of the upper mind. But, when the superficial mind is

> > > > > > quiet, the

> > > > > > deeper mind can offer up its intimations. When the whole

> > > > > > consciousness is

> > > > > > silent and tranquil, free from all becoming - which is

> > > > > > spontaneity - then

> > > > > > only does the immeasurable come into being.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Commentaries on Living, Series I - 44

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When I read this man I am reminded of a peace of translucid

> > > > > > cristal.

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > > > that about sums up that man's worth.

> > > > >

> > > > > ..and of course your worth as well.

> > > > >

> > > > > fragile.

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes...absolutely vulnerable

> > > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > to what?

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > dissolution ...

> > >

> > > as never having been ...

> > >

> > > - d -

> >

> >

> > that's not vulnerability.

> >

> > that's ignorance.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> it's beautiful.

>

> being this vulnerability.

>

> that is empty of itself ...

>

> -- d --

>

> Being this vulnerability that is itself

> -geo-

 

is is not

 

these are like geese

 

I watch their formations flying away

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > geo> That shows the relativity of words

> >

> > wonder what held him back from going body/mind totally into/as the

> > black

> > hole where he heard the silence?

> > d

>

> I wonder that, too, being He.

 

being this ... which is not even nothing

 

where is k, where is t, where is d

 

where are all the words, the pointers

 

unneeded, unarisen

 

the joy of emptiness

 

inexpressible

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > geo> That shows the relativity of words

> > >

> > > wonder what held him back from going body/mind totally into/as the

> > > black

> > > hole where he heard the silence?

> > > d

> >

> > I wonder that, too, being He.

>

> being this ... which is not even nothing

>

> where is k, where is t, where is d

>

> where are all the words, the pointers

>

> unneeded, unarisen

>

> the joy of emptiness

>

> inexpressible

 

Good question. Where *are* k, t and d? ;-).

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > -

> > dan330033

> > Nisargadatta

> > Saturday, June 06, 2009 9:12 PM

> > Re: The problem

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Michael Adamson " <adamson@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > JKrishnamurti.org - Daily Quote

> > >

> > > Silence is not built up through practice or pursuit!

> > >

> > > Disciplines, renunciations, detachments, rituals, the practice of virtue -

> > > all these, however noble, are the process of thought, and thought can only

> > > work toward an end, toward an achievement, which is ever the known.

> > > Achievement is security, the self-protective certainty of the known. To

> > > seek security in that which is nameless is to deny it. The security that

> > > may be found is only in the projection of the past, of the known. For this

> > > reason, the mind must be entirely and deeply silent; but this silence

> > > cannot be purchased through sacrifice, sublimation, or suppression. This

> > > silence comes when the mind is no longer seeking, no longer caught in the

> > > process of becoming. This silence is not cumulative, it may not be built

> > > up through practice. This silence must be as unknown to the mind as the

> > > timeless, for if the mind experiences the silence, then there is the

> > > experiencer who is the result of past experiences, who is cognizant of a

> > > past silence, and what is experienced by th e experiencer is merely a

> > > self-projected repetition. The mind can never experience the new, and so

> > > the mind must be utterly still.

> > >

> > > The mind can be still only when it is not experiencing, that is, when it

> > > is not terming or naming, recording or storing up in memory. This naming

> > > and recording is a constant process of the different layers of

> > > consciousness, not merely of the upper mind. But, when the superficial

> > > mind is quiet, the deeper mind can offer up its intimations. When the

> > > whole consciousness is silent and tranquil, free from all becoming - which

> > > is spontaneity - then only does the immeasurable come into being.

> > >

> > > Commentaries on Living, Series I - 44

> >

> > except the immeasurable that came into being, never came into being.

> > d

> >

> > geo> That shows the relativity of words

> >

> > wonder what held him back from going body/mind totally into/as the black

> > hole where he heard the silence?

> > d

> >

> > geo> That shows the absolutness of preconception

> >

> > or maybe he did, and left a puppet image to speak words to audiences ...

> > - d -

>

> That which can't be shown, wasn't shown.

>

> - d -

 

I heard J. K. liked mooning the moon.

 

And the moon liked mooning him back.

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