Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2009 this fucking hockey game tonight is an illusion. don't be distracted by that bullshit. Detroit will win the cup! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > this fucking hockey game tonight is an illusion. > > don't be distracted by that bullshit. > > Detroit will win the cup! > > .b b.b. > If a hockey team changes its town, its owner, its manager, its players, and its fans......is it still the same team? ......and why do so many people want to win an empty cup? toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > this fucking hockey game tonight is an illusion. > > > > don't be distracted by that bullshit. > > > > Detroit will win the cup! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > If a hockey team changes its town, its owner, its manager, its players, and its fans......is it still the same team? > > .....and why do so many people want to win an empty cup? > toombaru what is a " university " ? the buildings may change..or be added onto.. the professors and lecturers constantly change.. as do the students.. and the offered curriculum and details within those courses too. campuses sprawl and find external satellites.. names may even change for the institution.. or among those students and staff attending. most certainly the identities of staff and students change. it's an ever-changing phantasmagoria.. but it's considered " fixed " . it's called the " university of ____ if it's a name of prestige... many want to attend this place of no place or people. why do we assume it's of a fixed nature? what of the home you live in? through hundreds of years different people.. different ownerships.. different additions and removals.. new roofs and walls and paints and stones.. features and faults.. is it in essence not a home but rather a hotel? why would anyone want to live in a hotel and call it " home " ? the cells in your body will have died/vanished and been replaced.. within the next seven years.. as they have done before every seven year span.. throughout it's lifetime.. yet you call that blob of squishy meat stuff " you " . it's an ever changing phantasm too. where's " you " in that ever changing protoplasm? and even if not it's " you " ....where is that body? who would want to inhabit an ever-changing.. living and dying.. hunk of flesh? all vessels are empty. but " everyone " wants one. be it a cup..a home..a body.. or an opinion...changeable upon demand or circumstance. none of that matters. all is empty and all is change. so what? what's new? ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > all vessels are empty. > > but " everyone " wants one. > > be it a cup..a home..a body.. > > or an opinion...changeable upon demand or circumstance. > > none of that matters. > > all is empty and all is change. > > so what? > > what's new? > > .b b.b. Everything's new, as you just pointed out above. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > this fucking hockey game tonight is an illusion. > > > > > > don't be distracted by that bullshit. > > > > > > Detroit will win the cup! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > If a hockey team changes its town, its owner, its manager, its players, and its fans......is it still the same team? > > > > .....and why do so many people want to win an empty cup? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > what is a " university " ? > > the buildings may change..or be added onto.. > > the professors and lecturers constantly change.. > > as do the students.. > > and the offered curriculum and details within those courses too. > > campuses sprawl and find external satellites.. > > names may even change for the institution.. > > or among those students and staff attending. > > most certainly the identities of staff and students change. > > it's an ever-changing phantasmagoria.. > > but it's considered " fixed " . > > it's called the " university of ____ > > if it's a name of prestige... > > many want to attend this place of no place or people. > > why do we assume it's of a fixed nature? > > > > > what of the home you live in? > > through hundreds of years different people.. > > different ownerships.. > > different additions and removals.. > > new roofs and walls and paints and stones.. > > features and faults.. > > is it in essence not a home but rather a hotel? > > why would anyone want to live in a hotel and call it " home " ? > > > > > the cells in your body will have died/vanished and been replaced.. > > within the next seven years.. > > as they have done before every seven year span.. > > throughout it's lifetime.. > > yet you call that blob of squishy meat stuff " you " . > > it's an ever changing phantasm too. > > where's " you " in that ever changing protoplasm? > > and even if not it's " you " ....where is that body? > > who would want to inhabit an ever-changing.. > > living and dying.. > > hunk of flesh? > > all vessels are empty. > > but " everyone " wants one. > > be it a cup..a home..a body.. > > or an opinion...changeable upon demand or circumstance. > > none of that matters. > > all is empty and all is change. > > so what? > > what's new? > > .b b.b. what is " america " ? why would people sacrifice their bodies for it? what is freedom.. why is it so desired? what is a family? what is " you " ? none of the above is tangible or lasting. everything imaginable is " empty " of substance. illusion is in love with illusion. eternity is in love with the creatures of time. we're all in love with ourselves.. the lover and the loved are both meaningless. but " you " wouldn't " be " without this emptiness. guess what? even " you " are nothing BUT emptiness. and emptiness queries emptiness.....meaninglessly. now how..why...where..when.. does any of that emptiness " occur " ? and why should any of it 'seem " important? " you " seem to want to " find out " . you never will.. and even were that possible.. to what end? there are no ends to no beginnings. it's a role playing within games. Go Detroit! (whatever " Detroit " is) Win that empty cup! (whatever " win " means " ) the fans (which change with tides and times).. are by and on your " side " . why do so many want to ask empty questions.. regarding empty cups or emptiness itself? the questioners are empty too. emptiness wanting more emptiness. it's fucking greedy i tell you. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > what is " america " ? The United Mental-States of America. > why would people sacrifice their bodies for it? Because they believe it to be existing outside them, more real than they are. > what is freedom.. > > why is it so desired? Because the human mind is bondage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > all vessels are empty. > > > > > > but " everyone " wants one. > > > > > > be it a cup..a home..a body.. > > > > > > or an opinion...changeable upon demand or circumstance. > > > > > > none of that matters. > > > > > > all is empty and all is change. > > > > > > so what? > > > > > > what's new? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Everything's new, as you just pointed out above. > > > that's not new. > > there is no new newness. > > there are no " things " nor " everythings " . > > there are no " everybodys " . > > but everybody wants new things. > > nothing wants more and more extra nothing. > > whats new? > > .b b.b. Everything. New message here, new words, new thoughts, new body cells, new smells, new feelings, new sounds since the last message. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > what is " america " ? > > > > The United Mental-States of America. > > > > > why would people sacrifice their bodies for it? > > > > Because they believe it to be existing outside them, more real than they are. > > > > > what is freedom.. > > > > > > why is it so desired? > > > > Because the human mind is bondage. > > > are " we " " free " to lose this " bondage " ? > > are " we " more " real " than anything? > > .b b.b. Things appear as they do, because we are as they are. So sure, we're more real than anything. Everything depends on how we perceive it. Therefore, it depends on us. We don't depend on it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2009 - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Friday, June 05, 2009 1:09 AM Re: hockey Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > this fucking hockey game tonight is an illusion. > > don't be distracted by that bullshit. > > Detroit will win the cup! > > .b b.b. > If a hockey team changes its town, its owner, its manager, its players, and its fans......is it still the same team? ......and why do so many people want to win an empty cup? toombaru Because it is full of nothing, assole!!! It is the most valuable mechandise around...these days... -geo- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 5/6/2009 07:10:02 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > whats new? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Everything. New message here, new words, new thoughts, new body cells, new smells, new feelings, new sounds since the last message. > > > > can you hold it tight? > > .b b.b. It'd get pretty old, trying to do that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > what is " america " ? > > > > > > The United Mental-States of America. > > > > > > > why would people sacrifice their bodies for it? > > > > > > Because they believe it to be existing outside them, more real than they are. > > > > > > > what is freedom.. > > > > > > > > why is it so desired? > > > > > > Because the human mind is bondage. > > > > > > are " we " " free " to lose this " bondage " ? > > > > are " we " more " real " than anything? > > > > .b b.b. > > Things appear as they do, because we are as they are. > > So sure, we're more real than anything. > > Everything depends on how we perceive it. > > Therefore, it depends on us. We don't depend on it. " us " ?? it's all codependent. " you " are as " dependent " on " things " as the other way 'round. " therefore " is a useless concept. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > " us " ?? > > it's all codependent. > > " you " are as " dependent " on " things " as the other way 'round. > > " therefore " is a useless concept. > > .b b.b. So is " codependent " . It'd get pretty old, trying to hang onto that one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > whats new? > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Everything. New message here, new words, new thoughts, new body cells, new smells, new feelings, new sounds since the last message. > > > > > > > > can you hold it tight? > > > > .b b.b. > > It'd get pretty old, trying to do that. LOL! now is that new? ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > " us " ?? > > > > it's all codependent. > > > > " you " are as " dependent " on " things " as the other way 'round. > > > > " therefore " is a useless concept. > > > > .b b.b. > > So is " codependent " . > > It'd get pretty old, trying to hang onto that one. that's pretty useless too. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2009 - Tim G. Nisargadatta Friday, June 05, 2009 7:09 AM Re: hockey Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > what is " america " ? > > > > The United Mental-States of America. > > > > > why would people sacrifice their bodies for it? > > > > Because they believe it to be existing outside them, more real than they > > are. > > > > > what is freedom.. > > > > > > why is it so desired? > > > > Because the human mind is bondage. > > > are " we " " free " to lose this " bondage " ? > > are " we " more " real " than anything? > > .b b.b. Things appear as they do, because we are as they are. So sure, we're more real than anything. Everything depends on how we perceive it. Therefore, it depends on us. We don't depend on it. geo> Are you serious? Go back to sleep...NOW!! avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 5/6/2009 07:16:24 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > Things appear as they do, because we are as they are. > > So sure, we're more real than anything. > > Everything depends on how we perceive it. > > Therefore, it depends on us. We don't depend on it. > > geo> Are you serious? Go back to sleep...NOW!! Didja wake up temporarily upon reading that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Friday, June 05, 2009 7:22 AM Re: hockey Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > all vessels are empty. > > > > > > > > but " everyone " wants one. > > > > > > > > be it a cup..a home..a body.. > > > > > > > > or an opinion...changeable upon demand or circumstance. > > > > > > > > none of that matters. > > > > > > > > all is empty and all is change. > > > > > > > > so what? > > > > > > > > what's new? > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Everything's new, as you just pointed out above. > > > > > > that's not new. > > > > there is no new newness. > > > > there are no " things " nor " everythings " . > > > > there are no " everybodys " . > > > > but everybody wants new things. > > > > nothing wants more and more extra nothing. > > > > whats new? > > > > .b b.b. > > Everything. New message here, new words, new thoughts, new body cells, new > smells, new feelings, new sounds since the last message. can you hold it tight? ..b b.b. Of course I can. My car is in a state of new...less then 10.000 miles -geo- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 5/6/2009 07:28:31 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > can you hold it tight? > > .b b.b. > > Of course I can. My car is in a state of new...less then 10.000 > miles > -geo- My car is in a state of " newest " -- never been driven off the lot. Cuz I couldn't afford it ;-). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > can you hold it tight? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Of course I can. My car is in a state of new...less then 10.000 > > miles > > -geo- > > My car is in a state of " newest " -- never been driven off the lot. Cuz I couldn't afford it ;-). ask Detroit about cars. what's new and what's not. who shoots...who scores! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2009 - Tim G. Nisargadatta Friday, June 05, 2009 7:47 AM Re: hockey Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > can you hold it tight? > > .b b.b. > > Of course I can. My car is in a state of new...less then 10.000 > miles > -geo- My car is in a state of " newest " -- never been driven off the lot. Cuz I couldn't afford it ;-). geo> I understand you poor guys. Here in brazil we are now swimming in gas - its the so called pre-salt era... avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 5/6/2009 07:52:46 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > can you hold it tight? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Of course I can. My car is in a state of new...less then 10.000 > > > miles > > > -geo- > > > > My car is in a state of " newest " -- never been driven off the lot. Cuz I couldn't afford it ;-). > > > ask Detroit about cars. Tried that, but Detroit didn't answer. It was just a word in my head. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Tim G. > Nisargadatta > Friday, June 05, 2009 7:47 AM > Re: hockey > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > can you hold it tight? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Of course I can. My car is in a state of new...less then 10.000 > > miles > > -geo- > > My car is in a state of " newest " -- never been driven off the lot. Cuz I > couldn't afford it ;-). > > geo> I understand you poor guys. Here in brazil we are now swimming in gas - > its the so called pre-salt era... I'm actually living on U.S. $500/month, after rent costs. About as minimal as it gets, in the U.S. at least. No car here... I ride the bus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > can you hold it tight? > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > Of course I can. My car is in a state of new...less then 10.000 > > > > miles > > > > -geo- > > > > > > My car is in a state of " newest " -- never been driven off the lot. Cuz I couldn't afford it ;-). > > > > > > ask Detroit about cars. > > Tried that, but Detroit didn't answer. > > It was just a word in my head. well that's because nobody is in Detroit anymore. contact the new GM CEO.. he's in Washington D.C. comrade. well actually no.. he's in Germany today. as they said.. here today gone tomorrow.. no no that wasn't it..it was.. Saudi Arabia and Egypt today..tomorrow Germany. First he took Detroit.. then he'll take Berlin. hey! that's like my good bud from right here in Canada sang: First We Take Manhattan They sentenced me to twenty years of boredom For trying to change the system from within I'm coming now, I'm coming to reward them First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin I'm guided by a signal in the heavens I'm guided by this birthmark on my skin I'm guided by the beauty of our weapons First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin I'd really like to live beside you, baby I love your body and your spirit and your clothes But you see that line there moving through the station? I told you, I told you, told you, I was one of those Ah you loved me as a loser, but now you're worried that I just might win You know the way to stop me, but you don't have the discipline How many nights I prayed for this, to let my work begin First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin I don't like your fashion business mister And I don't like these drugs that keep you thin I don't like what happened to my sister First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin I'd really like to live beside you, baby ... And I thank you for those items that you sent me The monkey and the plywood violin I practiced every night, now I'm ready First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin I am guided...... Ah remember me, I used to live for music Remember me, I brought your groceries in Well it's Father's Day and everybody's wounded First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin good ol' Leonard! he played at being a zen monk for the longest time. i knew he's wake up! :-) ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > this fucking hockey game tonight is an illusion. > > don't be distracted by that bullshit. > > Detroit will win the cup! > > .b b.b. Well, you see what happens when I say " Go Penguins " ... I'm more powerful than I look. I won't say anything further. Let the best birds win. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > this fucking hockey game tonight is an illusion. > > > > don't be distracted by that bullshit. > > > > Detroit will win the cup! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > If a hockey team changes its town, its owner, its manager, its players, and its fans......is it still the same team? > > .....and why do so many people want to win an empty cup? > toombaru good point. it was never the same team, once. and remember, grasshopper, it is the emptiness of the cup that allows it to be useful. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
