Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:06 AM > > > > > Re: |||\\\///||| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > When effort is needed, effort will be there. > > > > > > -Nis- > > > > > > > > > > where is it ever needed? > > > > > > > > > > by whom? > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > For instance..an effort to stop lying to onself. > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > the abyss is endless. > > > > > > > > effortlessly. > > > > > > > > no lie. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > it doesn't involve a human effort. > > > > > > it's not about a human being. > > > > > > it's not a reward for a human being. > > > > > > it is. > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > who are you talking to? > > > > i wasn't talking about effort human or otherwise. > > > > that's what " effortless " means. > > > > you like to hear yourself talk. > > > > enjoy. > > > > .b b.b. > > yes, and you enjoy all the others and selves you're talking to, > > mr. b.b. the king see previous post. i've played guit-box with b.b. but i'm not he. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > When effort is needed, effort will be there. > > > > > > -Nis- > > > > > > > > > > where is it ever needed? > > > > > > > > > > by whom? > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > For instance..an effort to stop lying to onself. > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > the abyss is endless. > > > > > > > > effortlessly. > > > > > > > > no lie. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > | > > > > | > > > > | > > > > | > > > > | > > > > | > > > > | > > > > | > > > > | > > > > | > > > > | > > > > | > > > > | > > > > | > > > > , > > > > , > > > > , > > > > , > > > > , > > > > , > > > > . > > > > . > > > > . > > > > . > > > > . > > > > . > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > good one. > > > > > > > > > only no " geo " at the end of it. > > > > > > " geo " = " ego " > > > > > > and it ain't there. > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > do you think you're " all there " ? > > > > .b b.b. > > > there is no division > > it's only all > > and none > > everywhere and anywhere sure sure danny. you keep repeating that. you need the comforting. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:06 AM > > > > > Re: |||\\\///||| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > When effort is needed, effort will be there. > > > > > > -Nis- > > > > > > > > > > where is it ever needed? > > > > > > > > > > by whom? > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > For instance..an effort to stop lying to onself. > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > The only point to making an effort is when you reach the limit of the effort. > > > > > > > > At the limit of the effort, it ceases. > > > > > > > > Here is true effortlessness. > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > " The only point to making an effort.. > > > > > > is when you reach the limit of the effort. " > > > > > > what the fuck is the point of that? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > releasing effort > > > > releasing self-will > > > > exhaustion > > > > > for what? > > .b b.b. yes, exactly. just what is. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:06 AM > > > > > > Re: |||\\\///||| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When effort is needed, effort will be there. > > > > > > > -Nis- > > > > > > > > > > > > where is it ever needed? > > > > > > > > > > > > by whom? > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > For instance..an effort to stop lying to onself. > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > The only point to making an effort is when you reach the limit of the effort. > > > > > > > > > > At the limit of the effort, it ceases. > > > > > > > > > > Here is true effortlessness. > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > " The only point to making an effort.. > > > > > > > > is when you reach the limit of the effort. " > > > > > > > > what the fuck is the point of that? > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > releasing effort > > > > > > releasing self-will > > > > > > exhaustion > > > > > > > > > > for what? > > > > .b b.b. > > yes, exactly. > > just what is. > > - d - what's that? don't say that's that. that's just more of your tautological crap. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:06 AM > > > > > > Re: |||\\\///||| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When effort is needed, effort will be there. > > > > > > > -Nis- > > > > > > > > > > > > where is it ever needed? > > > > > > > > > > > > by whom? > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > For instance..an effort to stop lying to onself. > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the abyss is endless. > > > > > > > > > > effortlessly. > > > > > > > > > > no lie. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't involve a human effort. > > > > > > > > it's not about a human being. > > > > > > > > it's not a reward for a human being. > > > > > > > > it is. > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > who are you talking to? > > > > > > i wasn't talking about effort human or otherwise. > > > > > > that's what " effortless " means. > > > > > > you like to hear yourself talk. > > > > > > enjoy. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > yes, and you enjoy all the others and selves you're talking to, > > > > mr. b.b. the king > > > see previous post. > > i've played guit-box with b.b. but i'm not he. > > .b b.b. i'm glad you played with b.b. must have been a treat. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > When effort is needed, effort will be there. > > > > > > > -Nis- > > > > > > > > > > > > where is it ever needed? > > > > > > > > > > > > by whom? > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > For instance..an effort to stop lying to onself. > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > the abyss is endless. > > > > > > > > > > effortlessly. > > > > > > > > > > no lie. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > | > > > > > | > > > > > | > > > > > | > > > > > | > > > > > | > > > > > | > > > > > | > > > > > | > > > > > | > > > > > | > > > > > | > > > > > | > > > > > | > > > > > , > > > > > , > > > > > , > > > > > , > > > > > , > > > > > , > > > > > . > > > > > . > > > > > . > > > > > . > > > > > . > > > > > . > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > good one. > > > > > > > > > > > > only no " geo " at the end of it. > > > > > > > > " geo " = " ego " > > > > > > > > and it ain't there. > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > do you think you're " all there " ? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > there is no division > > > > it's only all > > > > and none > > > > everywhere and anywhere > > > sure sure danny. > > you keep repeating that. > > you need the comforting. > > .b b.b. when it suits you, there's a danny to talk to. when it suits you, there's no " you " anywhere. you like to have it both ways. and play games that suit you. it's all about you and enjoying the games you play. and you can always say there is no you to play them. but you keep playing them. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:06 AM > > > > > > > Re: |||\\\///||| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When effort is needed, effort will be there. > > > > > > > > -Nis- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where is it ever needed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by whom? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For instance..an effort to stop lying to onself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the abyss is endless. > > > > > > > > > > > > effortlessly. > > > > > > > > > > > > no lie. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't involve a human effort. > > > > > > > > > > it's not about a human being. > > > > > > > > > > it's not a reward for a human being. > > > > > > > > > > it is. > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > who are you talking to? > > > > > > > > i wasn't talking about effort human or otherwise. > > > > > > > > that's what " effortless " means. > > > > > > > > you like to hear yourself talk. > > > > > > > > enjoy. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > yes, and you enjoy all the others and selves you're talking to, > > > > > > mr. b.b. the king > > > > > > see previous post. > > > > i've played guit-box with b.b. but i'm not he. > > > > .b b.b. > > i'm glad you played with b.b. > > must have been a treat. > > - d - it always is. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When effort is needed, effort will be there. > > > > > > > > -Nis- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where is it ever needed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by whom? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For instance..an effort to stop lying to onself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > the abyss is endless. > > > > > > > > > > > > effortlessly. > > > > > > > > > > > > no lie. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > | > > > > > > | > > > > > > | > > > > > > | > > > > > > | > > > > > > | > > > > > > | > > > > > > | > > > > > > | > > > > > > | > > > > > > | > > > > > > | > > > > > > | > > > > > > , > > > > > > , > > > > > > , > > > > > > , > > > > > > , > > > > > > , > > > > > > . > > > > > > . > > > > > > . > > > > > > . > > > > > > . > > > > > > . > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only no " geo " at the end of it. > > > > > > > > > > " geo " = " ego " > > > > > > > > > > and it ain't there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > do you think you're " all there " ? > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > there is no division > > > > > > it's only all > > > > > > and none > > > > > > everywhere and anywhere > > > > > > sure sure danny. > > > > you keep repeating that. > > > > you need the comforting. > > > > .b b.b. > > when it suits you, there's a danny to talk to. > > when it suits you, there's no " you " anywhere. > > you like to have it both ways. > > and play games that suit you. > > it's all about you and enjoying the games you play. > > and you can always say there is no you to play them. > > but you keep playing them. > > - d - and you don't? does that mean you don't enjoy. that's too bad. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:06 AM > > > > > > > Re: |||\\\///||| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When effort is needed, effort will be there. > > > > > > > > -Nis- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where is it ever needed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by whom? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For instance..an effort to stop lying to onself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > The only point to making an effort is when you reach the limit of the effort. > > > > > > > > > > > > At the limit of the effort, it ceases. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is true effortlessness. > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The only point to making an effort.. > > > > > > > > > > is when you reach the limit of the effort. " > > > > > > > > > > what the fuck is the point of that? > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > releasing effort > > > > > > > > releasing self-will > > > > > > > > exhaustion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for what? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > yes, exactly. > > > > just what is. > > > > - d - > > > what's that? > > don't say that's that. > > that's just more of your tautological crap. > > .b b.b. you keep repeating crap and bullshit over and over. maybe you're b.b. king of crap, that would make you b.b.c. you missed my point. the for what? = what is. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:06 AM > > > > > > > > Re: |||\\\///||| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When effort is needed, effort will be there. > > > > > > > > > -Nis- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where is it ever needed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by whom? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For instance..an effort to stop lying to onself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the abyss is endless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > effortlessly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no lie. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't involve a human effort. > > > > > > > > > > > > it's not about a human being. > > > > > > > > > > > > it's not a reward for a human being. > > > > > > > > > > > > it is. > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who are you talking to? > > > > > > > > > > i wasn't talking about effort human or otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > that's what " effortless " means. > > > > > > > > > > you like to hear yourself talk. > > > > > > > > > > enjoy. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > yes, and you enjoy all the others and selves you're talking to, > > > > > > > > mr. b.b. the king > > > > > > > > > see previous post. > > > > > > i've played guit-box with b.b. but i'm not he. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > i'm glad you played with b.b. > > > > must have been a treat. > > > > - d - > > > it always is. > > .b b.b. nice. he has a great smile. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:06 AM > > > > > > > > Re: |||\\\///||| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When effort is needed, effort will be there. > > > > > > > > > -Nis- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where is it ever needed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by whom? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For instance..an effort to stop lying to onself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The only point to making an effort is when you reach the limit of the effort. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At the limit of the effort, it ceases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is true effortlessness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The only point to making an effort.. > > > > > > > > > > > > is when you reach the limit of the effort. " > > > > > > > > > > > > what the fuck is the point of that? > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > releasing effort > > > > > > > > > > releasing self-will > > > > > > > > > > exhaustion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for what? > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > yes, exactly. > > > > > > just what is. > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > what's that? > > > > don't say that's that. > > > > that's just more of your tautological crap. > > > > .b b.b. > > you keep repeating crap and bullshit over and over. > > maybe you're b.b. king of crap, that would make you b.b.c. > > you missed my point. > > the for what? = what is. > > - d - is what? ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:06 AM > > > > > > > > > Re: |||\\\///||| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When effort is needed, effort will be there. > > > > > > > > > > -Nis- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where is it ever needed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by whom? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For instance..an effort to stop lying to onself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the abyss is endless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > effortlessly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no lie. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't involve a human effort. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's not about a human being. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's not a reward for a human being. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who are you talking to? > > > > > > > > > > > > i wasn't talking about effort human or otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what " effortless " means. > > > > > > > > > > > > you like to hear yourself talk. > > > > > > > > > > > > enjoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > yes, and you enjoy all the others and selves you're talking to, > > > > > > > > > > mr. b.b. the king > > > > > > > > > > > > see previous post. > > > > > > > > i've played guit-box with b.b. but i'm not he. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > i'm glad you played with b.b. > > > > > > must have been a treat. > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > it always is. > > > > .b b.b. > > nice. > > he has a great smile. > > - d - and even greater fingers. ask lucille. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When effort is needed, effort will be there. > > > > > > > > > > -Nis- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where is it ever needed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by whom? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For instance..an effort to stop lying to onself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the abyss is endless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > effortlessly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no lie. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only no " geo " at the end of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " geo " = " ego " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and it ain't there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do you think you're " all there " ? > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is no division > > > > > > > > > > it's only all > > > > > > > > > > and none > > > > > > > > > > everywhere and anywhere > > > > > > > > > > > > sure sure danny. > > > > > > > > you keep repeating that. > > > > > > > > you need the comforting. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > when it suits you, there's a danny to talk to. > > > > > > when it suits you, there's no " you " anywhere. > > > > > > you like to have it both ways. > > > > > > and play games that suit you. > > > > > > it's all about you and enjoying the games you play. > > > > > > and you can always say there is no you to play them. > > > > > > but you keep playing them. > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > and you don't? > > > > does that mean you don't enjoy. > > > > that's too bad. > > > > .b b.b. > > i love it! > > - d - then let the games commence to continue. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:06 AM > > > > > > > > > Re: |||\\\///||| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When effort is needed, effort will be there. > > > > > > > > > > -Nis- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where is it ever needed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by whom? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For instance..an effort to stop lying to onself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The only point to making an effort is when you reach the limit of the effort. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At the limit of the effort, it ceases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is true effortlessness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The only point to making an effort.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is when you reach the limit of the effort. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what the fuck is the point of that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > releasing effort > > > > > > > > > > > > releasing self-will > > > > > > > > > > > > exhaustion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for what? > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > yes, exactly. > > > > > > > > just what is. > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > what's that? > > > > > > don't say that's that. > > > > > > that's just more of your tautological crap. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > you keep repeating crap and bullshit over and over. > > > > maybe you're b.b. king of crap, that would make you b.b.c. > > > > you missed my point. > > > > the for what? = what is. > > > > - d - > > > is what? > > .b b.b. yes, is what = what is. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > and even greater fingers. > > ask lucille. > > .b b.b. yup. true guitar hero. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > then let the games commence to continue. > > .b b.b. > Isn't that what the lions said to the Christians? - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 3, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:06 AM > > > > > > > > > > Re: |||\\\///||| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When effort is needed, effort will be there. > > > > > > > > > > > -Nis- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where is it ever needed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by whom? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For instance..an effort to stop lying to onself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The only point to making an effort is when you reach the limit of the effort. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At the limit of the effort, it ceases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is true effortlessness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The only point to making an effort.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is when you reach the limit of the effort. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what the fuck is the point of that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > releasing effort > > > > > > > > > > > > > > releasing self-will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exhaustion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for what? > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > yes, exactly. > > > > > > > > > > just what is. > > > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > > > > what's that? > > > > > > > > don't say that's that. > > > > > > > > that's just more of your tautological crap. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > you keep repeating crap and bullshit over and over. > > > > > > maybe you're b.b. king of crap, that would make you b.b.c. > > > > > > you missed my point. > > > > > > the for what? = what is. > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > is what? > > > > .b b.b. > > yes, is what = what is. > > - d - no is what = horse feathers. no bullshit either. i know that offends your sensibilities. insensibly. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 3, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > then let the games commence to continue. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Isn't that what the lions said to the Christians? > > - d - unless it was Christmas. then they said: mala kaliki-maka. they were Hawaiian lions... doing the christian thing. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 3, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > no is what = horse feathers. > > no bullshit either. > > i know that offends your sensibilities. i'm not offended. > insensibly. what is a sense when it's not-two with what is being sensed? where is contact to be made? > .b b.b. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 3, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > no is what = horse feathers. > > > > no bullshit either. > > > > i know that offends your sensibilities. > > i'm not offended. > > > insensibly. > > what is a sense when it's not-two with what is being sensed? > > where is contact to be made? > > > .b b.b. > > - d - are you trying to make contact? ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 3, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > are you trying to make contact? > > .b b.b. there isn't any to be had. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 3, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > are you trying to make contact? > > > > .b b.b. > > there isn't any to be had. > > - d - remember the movie " Contactless " . it didn't get rave reviews. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 3, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > are you trying to make contact? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > there isn't any to be had. > > > > - d - > > > remember the movie " Contactless " . > > it didn't get rave reviews. > > .b b.b. Dan's right, there's no conflict to be had. All this is happening within 'the mind' of 'the One', if you like (dunno if those words turn ya on or not). And 'the One' is not somewhere else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 4, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > are you trying to make contact? > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > there isn't any to be had. > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > remember the movie " Contactless " . > > > > it didn't get rave reviews. > > > > .b b.b. > > Dan's right, there's no conflict to be had. All this is happening within 'the mind' of 'the One', if you like (dunno if those words turn ya on or not). And 'the One' is not somewhere else. who's looking for conflict? i was talking about a movie that never was. like everything else. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 4, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are you trying to make contact? > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > there isn't any to be had. > > > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > > > > remember the movie " Contactless " . > > > > > > it didn't get rave reviews. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Dan's right, there's no conflict to be had. All this is happening within 'the mind' of 'the One', if you like (dunno if those words turn ya on or not). And 'the One' is not somewhere else. > > > who's looking for conflict? > > i was talking about a movie that never was. > > like everything else. > > .b b.b. Whoops... I meant to say contact, not conflict. Sure, I remember the movie " Contact " too. In fact, I've got it on DVD. Can't be entirely nonexistent ;-). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
