Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Ricardo Almon <ricardo.almon@> wrote: > > > > > > > > People are only intent on feeding the ego. They never think of knowing the > > > > Self. To know the Self, one should starve the ego. But unfortunately, most > > > > people cannot starve the ego. Instead, they cling to it, ever increasingly. > > > > The predominant tendency in human beings is to attract as much attention as > > > > possible. They want to be praised and recognized, believing that it is their > > > > birthright. This is all food for the ego which thrives on attention. How are > > > > you going to know the Self if your ego is constantly craving attention? " > > > > > > > > Mata Amritanandamay > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another New Age populist, Ricardo. > > > > > > It is the usual trick and procedure of most gurus to find and to establish an enemy, in this case the ego, and then offering a seducing teaching of eternal bliss or similar crap based on fighting that enemy. > > > > > > I wonder why you don't see that, Ricardo ? > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > You're right, Werner! I found this citation somewhere and thought it isn't that bad. I don't know who Mata A. is! > > > > Indeed, the promise of an eternal orgasm! > > > > The ego........reflective self-awareness; ideal-ego and ego-ideal! > > > > I accept everything! > > > > Ricardo > > > > > Fine, Ricardo, > > What else can one do besides accepting and letting go ? > > Have you ever read or watched the vidoes of UG ? He was calling those brand of gurus and people BASTADRS ! > > http://www.ugkrishnamurti.org/ > > Werner " BASTADRS ! " ??????????????????!!!! ROFLMAO! wernie you take the cake. hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! god that one was great. so now blame it on: your bad eyes and non " english-as-a-first-language " schtick. that will be even funnier than your original malapropism. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Ricardo Almon <ricardo.almon@> wrote: > > > > > > > > People are only intent on feeding the ego. They never think of knowing the > > > > Self. To know the Self, one should starve the ego. But unfortunately, most > > > > people cannot starve the ego. Instead, they cling to it, ever increasingly. > > > > The predominant tendency in human beings is to attract as much attention as > > > > possible. They want to be praised and recognized, believing that it is their > > > > birthright. This is all food for the ego which thrives on attention. How are > > > > you going to know the Self if your ego is constantly craving attention? " > > > > > > > > Mata Amritanandamay > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another New Age populist, Ricardo. > > > > > > It is the usual trick and procedure of most gurus to find and to establish an enemy, in this case the ego, and then offering a seducing teaching of eternal bliss or similar crap based on fighting that enemy. > > > > > > I wonder why you don't see that, Ricardo ? > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > You're right, Werner! I found this citation somewhere and thought it isn't that bad. I don't know who Mata A. is! > > > > Indeed, the promise of an eternal orgasm! > > > > The ego........reflective self-awareness; ideal-ego and ego-ideal! > > > > I accept everything! > > > > Ricardo > > > > > Fine, Ricardo, > > What else can one do besides accepting and letting go ? > > Have you ever read or watched the vidoes of UG ? He was calling those brand of gurus and people BASTADRS ! > > http://www.ugkrishnamurti.org/ > > Werner > I know U.G..... Fear is his enemy! Warm Regards, Ricardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Fine, Ricardo, > > > > What else can one do besides accepting and letting go ? > > > > Have you ever read or watched the vidoes of UG ? He was calling those brand of gurus and people BASTADRS ! > > > > http://www.ugkrishnamurti.org/ > > > > Werner > > > > > I know U.G..... > > Fear is his enemy! > > Warm Regards, > Ricardo > Hm, Ricardo, How did you arrive at this idea that fear was the enemy of UG ? UG stated that the moment fear is stopping you instantly will drop dead. For UG fear was the movement of life. Werner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Fine, Ricardo, > > > > > > What else can one do besides accepting and letting go ? > > > > > > Have you ever read or watched the vidoes of UG ? He was calling those brand of gurus and people BASTADRS ! > > > > > > http://www.ugkrishnamurti.org/ > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > I know U.G..... > > > > Fear is his enemy! > > > > Warm Regards, > > Ricardo > > > > > Hm, Ricardo, > > How did you arrive at this idea that fear was the enemy of UG ? > > UG stated that the moment fear is stopping you instantly will drop dead. For UG fear was the movement of life. > > Werner oh crap! does this mean you will live forever wernie? shit! :-) ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2009 Nisargadatta , Ricardo Almon <ricardo.almon wrote: > > People are only intent on feeding the ego. They never think of knowing the > Self. To know the Self, one should starve the ego. But unfortunately, most > people cannot starve the ego. Instead, they cling to it, ever increasingly. > The predominant tendency in human beings is to attract as much attention as > possible. They want to be praised and recognized, believing that it is their > birthright. This is all food for the ego which thrives on attention. How are > you going to know the Self if your ego is constantly craving attention? " > > Mata Amritanandamayi > good question.... but impossible to get an answer to the question from all this beloved heavy ego freaks in here.... Marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Ricardo Almon <ricardo.almon@> wrote: > > > > People are only intent on feeding the ego. They never think of knowing the > > Self. To know the Self, one should starve the ego. But unfortunately, most > > people cannot starve the ego. Instead, they cling to it, ever increasingly. > > The predominant tendency in human beings is to attract as much attention as > > possible. They want to be praised and recognized, believing that it is their > > birthright. This is all food for the ego which thrives on attention. How are > > you going to know the Self if your ego is constantly craving attention? " > > > > Mata Amritanandamayi > > > > > good question.... > > but impossible to get an answer to the question from all this beloved heavy ego freaks in here.... > > > > Marc don't you think it a wee bit egotistical to think.. that the human ego can know the Self? even if that's by some supposed act of legerdemain... like sublimating the ego by the ego? seems Self contradictory. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Ricardo Almon <ricardo.almon@> wrote: > > > > > > People are only intent on feeding the ego. They never think of knowing the > > > Self. To know the Self, one should starve the ego. But unfortunately, most > > > people cannot starve the ego. Instead, they cling to it, ever increasingly. > > > The predominant tendency in human beings is to attract as much attention as > > > possible. They want to be praised and recognized, believing that it is their > > > birthright. This is all food for the ego which thrives on attention. How are > > > you going to know the Self if your ego is constantly craving attention? " > > > > > > Mata Amritanandamayi > > > > > > > > > good question.... > > > > but impossible to get an answer to the question from all this beloved heavy ego freaks in here.... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > don't you think it a wee bit egotistical to think.. > > that the human ego can know the Self? > > even if that's by some supposed act of legerdemain... > > like sublimating the ego by the ego? > > seems Self contradictory. > > .b b.b. > don't you think it a wee bit egotistical to write in here with many different IDs?.....lol yes, it's possible to know what & who one is....and so also, what & who you aren't...and never realy have been. within such knowledge, ego is melting down slowly to a great nothingness....emptyness.... until it is no more..... what is happening after such emptyness.... what such being is about....can't be known.... it can only be .... Marc Ps: what's up with Bob?.....ego is driving mad?.... nearly it become impossible in here to write something serious....with all this endless words of complete non-sense Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2009 could someone on this list name in their opinion all of the ego-less teachers out there - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Monday, March 09, 2009 6:58 AM Re: Ego Nisargadatta , "dennis_travis33" <dennis_travis33 wrote:>> Nisargadatta , Ricardo Almon <ricardo.almon@> wrote:> >> > People are only intent on feeding the ego. They never think of knowing the> > Self. To know the Self, one should starve the ego. But unfortunately, most> > people cannot starve the ego. Instead, they cling to it, ever increasingly.> > The predominant tendency in human beings is to attract as much attention as> > possible. They want to be praised and recognized, believing that it is their> > birthright. This is all food for the ego which thrives on attention. How are> > you going to know the Self if your ego is constantly craving attention?"> > > > Mata Amritanandamayi> >> > > good question....> > but impossible to get an answer to the question from all this beloved heavy ego freaks in here....> > > > Marcdon't you think it a wee bit egotistical to think..that the human ego can know the Self?even if that's by some supposed act of legerdemain...like sublimating the ego by the ego?seems Self contradictory..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Ricardo Almon <ricardo.almon@> wrote: > > > > > > > > People are only intent on feeding the ego. They never think of knowing the > > > > Self. To know the Self, one should starve the ego. But unfortunately, most > > > > people cannot starve the ego. Instead, they cling to it, ever increasingly. > > > > The predominant tendency in human beings is to attract as much attention as > > > > possible. They want to be praised and recognized, believing that it is their > > > > birthright. This is all food for the ego which thrives on attention. How are > > > > you going to know the Self if your ego is constantly craving attention? " > > > > > > > > Mata Amritanandamayi > > > > > > > > > > > > > good question.... > > > > > > but impossible to get an answer to the question from all this beloved heavy ego freaks in here.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > don't you think it a wee bit egotistical to think.. > > > > that the human ego can know the Self? > > > > even if that's by some supposed act of legerdemain... > > > > like sublimating the ego by the ego? > > > > seems Self contradictory. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > don't you think it a wee bit egotistical to write in here with many different IDs?.....lol > > yes, it's possible to know what & who one is....and so also, what & who you aren't...and never realy have been. > > within such knowledge, ego is melting down slowly to a great nothingness....emptyness.... > > until it is no more..... > > what is happening after such emptyness.... > what such being is about....can't be known.... > > it can only be > > ... > > Marc > > > Ps: what's up with Bob?.....ego is driving mad?.... > nearly it become impossible in here to write something serious....with all this endless words of complete non-sense you can't be serious. that's utter nonsense. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2009 if 'anyone' is teaching 'anything' to 'anybody'.. it's all and only about and for and by... ego. just so. ..b b.b. Nisargadatta , " Kirk Crist " <kcrist wrote: > > could someone on this list name in their opinion all of the ego-less teachers out there > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Monday, March 09, 2009 6:58 AM > Re: Ego > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Ricardo Almon <ricardo.almon@> wrote: > > > > > > People are only intent on feeding the ego. They never think of knowing the > > > Self. To know the Self, one should starve the ego. But unfortunately, most > > > people cannot starve the ego. Instead, they cling to it, ever increasingly. > > > The predominant tendency in human beings is to attract as much attention as > > > possible. They want to be praised and recognized, believing that it is their > > > birthright. This is all food for the ego which thrives on attention. How are > > > you going to know the Self if your ego is constantly craving attention? " > > > > > > Mata Amritanandamayi > > > > > > > > > good question.... > > > > but impossible to get an answer to the question from all this beloved heavy ego freaks in here.... > > > > > > > > Marc > > don't you think it a wee bit egotistical to think.. > > that the human ego can know the Self? > > even if that's by some supposed act of legerdemain... > > like sublimating the ego by the ego? > > seems Self contradictory. > > .b b.b. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2009 .....as if the ego can learn anything that it doesn't already know... ;-) Anna Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > if 'anyone' is teaching 'anything' to 'anybody'.. > > it's all and only about and for and by... ego. > > just so. > > > .b b.b. > > Nisargadatta , " Kirk Crist " <kcrist@> wrote: > > > > could someone on this list name in their opinion all of the ego-less teachers out there > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, March 09, 2009 6:58 AM > > Re: Ego > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Ricardo Almon <ricardo.almon@> wrote: > > > > > > > > People are only intent on feeding the ego. They never think of knowing the > > > > Self. To know the Self, one should starve the ego. But unfortunately, most > > > > people cannot starve the ego. Instead, they cling to it, ever increasingly. > > > > The predominant tendency in human beings is to attract as much attention as > > > > possible. They want to be praised and recognized, believing that it is their > > > > birthright. This is all food for the ego which thrives on attention. How are > > > > you going to know the Self if your ego is constantly craving attention? " > > > > > > > > Mata Amritanandamayi > > > > > > > > > > > > > good question.... > > > > > > but impossible to get an answer to the question from all this beloved heavy ego freaks in here.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > don't you think it a wee bit egotistical to think.. > > > > that the human ego can know the Self? > > > > even if that's by some supposed act of legerdemain... > > > > like sublimating the ego by the ego? > > > > seems Self contradictory. > > > > .b b.b. > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2009 I didn't know that! well bless my egoless soul! :-) ..b b.b. Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > ....as if the ego can learn anything that it doesn't already know... > > ;-) > > Anna > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > if 'anyone' is teaching 'anything' to 'anybody'.. > > > > it's all and only about and for and by... ego. > > > > just so. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Kirk Crist " <kcrist@> wrote: > > > > > > could someone on this list name in their opinion all of the ego-less teachers out there > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Monday, March 09, 2009 6:58 AM > > > Re: Ego > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Ricardo Almon <ricardo.almon@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > People are only intent on feeding the ego. They never think of knowing the > > > > > Self. To know the Self, one should starve the ego. But unfortunately, most > > > > > people cannot starve the ego. Instead, they cling to it, ever increasingly. > > > > > The predominant tendency in human beings is to attract as much attention as > > > > > possible. They want to be praised and recognized, believing that it is their > > > > > birthright. This is all food for the ego which thrives on attention. How are > > > > > you going to know the Self if your ego is constantly craving attention? " > > > > > > > > > > Mata Amritanandamayi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good question.... > > > > > > > > but impossible to get an answer to the question from all this beloved heavy ego freaks in here.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > don't you think it a wee bit egotistical to think.. > > > > > > that the human ego can know the Self? > > > > > > even if that's by some supposed act of legerdemain... > > > > > > like sublimating the ego by the ego? > > > > > > seems Self contradictory. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Kirk Crist " <kcrist wrote: > > K: could someone on this list name in their opinion all of the ego-less teachers out there P: I can assure you all the dead ones have no ego. Those who are alive may still need one. What is an ego, but that mechanism in charge of protect and acquiring? If one is unemployed and looking for a job, an ego is a useful thing to have. For most people that have all their material needs satisfied, the ego is only in charge of enhancement and protection of the self-image. When one sees that, one keeps one ego in a box for when it's really needed. If one is not the type who carries a hammer around in case a nail is found, then one doesn't have an ego looking out for imaginary offenses all the time, either. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2009 that is cute thanks - cerosoul Nisargadatta Monday, March 09, 2009 11:02 AM Re: Ego Nisargadatta , "Kirk Crist" <kcrist wrote:>> K: could someone on this list name in their opinion all of the ego-less teachers out thereP: I can assure you all the dead oneshave no ego. Those who are alive may stillneed one. What is an ego, but thatmechanism in charge of protect andacquiring? If one is unemployed and lookingfor a job, an ego is a useful thing to have.For most people that have all their materialneeds satisfied, the ego is only in chargeof enhancement and protection of the self-image.When one sees that, one keeps one ego in abox for when it's really needed. If one isnot the type who carries a hammer around incase a nail is found, then one doesn't havean ego looking out for imaginary offenses all the time, either.> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2009 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Kirk Crist " <kcrist@> wrote: > > > > K: could someone on this list name in their opinion all of the ego-less teachers out there > > P: I can assure you all the dead ones > have no ego. Those who are alive may still > need one. What is an ego, but that > mechanism in charge of protect and > acquiring? If one is unemployed and looking > for a job, an ego is a useful thing to have. > > For most people that have all their material > needs satisfied, the ego is only in charge > of enhancement and protection of the self-image. > Yes, Pete, That is true for old people like you and me who already have left behind their need for reputation and their need for status and prestige this is quite easy to say. But for young people whose sexual potency closey is connected to status and prestige and to be no underdog because the underdog always gets or already has potency problems, selfimage is the most important and valuable thing. Especially for older kids who are fighting to find their place within a group a stable and strong selfimage is the important base. When Nis was asked if his teaching also is good for children he said no, it isn't. Because chidren firs have to acquire and to build up a stable ego which they later need in life to be able to survive. That's btw why I constantly repeat and repeat that the ego is one's friend and that this horrible idea of ego-killing is the most stupid and destructive thing in an idiot's mind. Werner > When one sees that, one keeps one ego in a > box for when it's really needed. If one is > not the type who carries a hammer around in > case a nail is found, then one doesn't have > an ego looking out for imaginary offenses > all the time, either. > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2009 ego made me to begin my journey, it made me to write so many stories of adventure, it gave me excitement, sorrow, solitude & what not at every moment. it has blossomed from love hence it sees everything as an object of desire. it made me to do things i yearned for. i have lived with it & will die with it but i will not give it up because it will begin my journey. -mahesh Werner Woehr <wwoehrNisargadatta Sent: Monday, March 9, 2009 10:08:39 PM Re: Ego Nisargadatta, "cerosoul" <pedsie6 > wrote:>> Nisargadatta, "Kirk Crist" <kcrist@> wrote:> >> > K: could someone on this list name in their opinion all of the ego-less teachers out there> > P: I can assure you all the dead ones> have no ego. Those who are alive may still> need one. What is an ego, but that> mechanism in charge of protect and> acquiring? If one is unemployed and looking> for a job, an ego is a useful thing to have.> > For most people that have all their material> needs satisfied, the ego is only in charge> of enhancement and protection of the self-image.> Yes, Pete,That is true for old people like you and me who already have left behind their need for reputation and their need for status and prestige this is quite easy to say.But for young people whose sexual potency closey is connected to status and prestige and to be no underdog because the underdog always gets or already has potency problems, selfimage is the most important and valuable thing.Especially for older kids who are fighting to find their place within a group a stable and strong selfimage is the important base.When Nis was asked if his teaching also is good for children he said no, it isn't. Because chidren firs have to acquire and to build up a stable ego which they later need in life to be able to survive.That's btw why I constantly repeat and repeat that the ego is one's friend and that this horrible idea of ego-killing is the most stupid and destructive thing in an idiot's mind.Werner> When one sees that, one keeps one ego in a> box for when it's really needed. If one is> not the type who carries a hammer around in> case a nail is found, then one doesn't have> an ego looking out for imaginary offenses > all the time, either.> >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2009 Nisargadatta , Mahesh Kamat <mv.kamat wrote: > > ego made me to begin my journey, it made me to write so many stories of adventure, it gave me excitement, sorrow, solitude & what not at every moment. it has blossomed from love hence it sees everything as an object of desire. it made me to do things i yearned for. i have lived with it & will die with it but i will not give it up because it will begin my journey. > -mahesh > > Very beautiful, Mahesh. Thank you. Everyone reading your lines must get this feeling of mildness and peace which arrives when one no longer is one's own enemy. Werner > > > ________________________________ > Werner Woehr <wwoehr > Nisargadatta > Monday, March 9, 2009 10:08:39 PM > Re: Ego > > > Nisargadatta, " cerosoul " <pedsie6@ > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta, " Kirk Crist " <kcrist@> wrote: > > > > > > K: could someone on this list name in their opinion all of the ego-less teachers out there > > > > P: I can assure you all the dead ones > > have no ego. Those who are alive may still > > need one. What is an ego, but that > > mechanism in charge of protect and > > acquiring? If one is unemployed and looking > > for a job, an ego is a useful thing to have. > > > > For most people that have all their material > > needs satisfied, the ego is only in charge > > of enhancement and protection of the self-image. > > > > Yes, Pete, > > That is true for old people like you and me who already have left behind their need for reputation and their need for status and prestige this is quite easy to say. > > But for young people whose sexual potency closey is connected to status and prestige and to be no underdog because the underdog always gets or already has potency problems, selfimage is the most important and valuable thing. > > Especially for older kids who are fighting to find their place within a group a stable and strong selfimage is the important base. > > When Nis was asked if his teaching also is good for children he said no, it isn't. Because chidren firs have to acquire and to build up a stable ego which they later need in life to be able to survive. > > That's btw why I constantly repeat and repeat that the ego is one's friend and that this horrible idea of ego-killing is the most stupid and destructive thing in an idiot's mind. > > Werner > > > When one sees that, one keeps one ego in a > > box for when it's really needed. If one is > > not the type who carries a hammer around in > > case a nail is found, then one doesn't have > > an ego looking out for imaginary offenses > > all the time, either. > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 10, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Ricardo Almon <ricardo.almon@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > People are only intent on feeding the ego. They never think of knowing the > > > > > Self. To know the Self, one should starve the ego. But unfortunately, most > > > > > people cannot starve the ego. Instead, they cling to it, ever increasingly. > > > > > The predominant tendency in human beings is to attract as much attention as > > > > > possible. They want to be praised and recognized, believing that it is their > > > > > birthright. This is all food for the ego which thrives on attention. How are > > > > > you going to know the Self if your ego is constantly craving attention? " > > > > > > > > > > Mata Amritanandamayi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good question.... > > > > > > > > but impossible to get an answer to the question from all this beloved heavy ego freaks in here.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > don't you think it a wee bit egotistical to think.. > > > > > > that the human ego can know the Self? > > > > > > even if that's by some supposed act of legerdemain... > > > > > > like sublimating the ego by the ego? > > > > > > seems Self contradictory. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > don't you think it a wee bit egotistical to write in here with many different IDs?.....lol > > > > yes, it's possible to know what & who one is....and so also, what & who you aren't...and never realy have been. > > > > within such knowledge, ego is melting down slowly to a great nothingness....emptyness.... > > > > until it is no more..... > > > > what is happening after such emptyness.... > > what such being is about....can't be known.... > > > > it can only be > > > > ... > > > > Marc > > > > > > Ps: what's up with Bob?.....ego is driving mad?.... > > nearly it become impossible in here to write something serious....with all this endless words of complete non-sense > > > > > you can't be serious. > > that's utter nonsense. > > :-) > > .b b.b. > " who " can't/couldn't be serious? lol Marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 10, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > if 'anyone' is teaching 'anything' to 'anybody'.. > > it's all and only about and for and by... ego. > > just so. > > > .b b.b. true > > Nisargadatta , " Kirk Crist " <kcrist@> wrote: > > > > could someone on this list name in their opinion all of the ego-less teachers out there > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, March 09, 2009 6:58 AM > > Re: Ego > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Ricardo Almon <ricardo.almon@> wrote: > > > > > > > > People are only intent on feeding the ego. They never think of knowing the > > > > Self. To know the Self, one should starve the ego. But unfortunately, most > > > > people cannot starve the ego. Instead, they cling to it, ever increasingly. > > > > The predominant tendency in human beings is to attract as much attention as > > > > possible. They want to be praised and recognized, believing that it is their > > > > birthright. This is all food for the ego which thrives on attention. How are > > > > you going to know the Self if your ego is constantly craving attention? " > > > > > > > > Mata Amritanandamayi > > > > > > > > > > > > > good question.... > > > > > > but impossible to get an answer to the question from all this beloved heavy ego freaks in here.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > don't you think it a wee bit egotistical to think.. > > > > that the human ego can know the Self? > > > > even if that's by some supposed act of legerdemain... > > > > like sublimating the ego by the ego? > > > > seems Self contradictory. > > > > .b b.b. > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 10, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Mahesh Kamat <mv.kamat@> wrote: > > > > ego made me to begin my journey, it made me to write so many stories of adventure, it gave me excitement, sorrow, solitude & what not at every moment. it has blossomed from love hence it sees everything as an object of desire. it made me to do things i yearned for. i have lived with it & will die with it but i will not give it up because it will begin my journey. > > -mahesh > > > > > > > Very beautiful, Mahesh. > > Thank you. > > Everyone reading your lines must get this feeling of mildness and peace which arrives when one no longer is one's own enemy. > > Werner > > ohh yes, very beautiful.... it's rare that Werner get the chance to meet with someone being no enemy... precious moment for Werner.... lol Marc > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Werner Woehr <wwoehr@> > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, March 9, 2009 10:08:39 PM > > Re: Ego > > > > > > Nisargadatta, " cerosoul " <pedsie6@ > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta, " Kirk Crist " <kcrist@> wrote: > > > > > > > > K: could someone on this list name in their opinion all of the ego-less teachers out there > > > > > > P: I can assure you all the dead ones > > > have no ego. Those who are alive may still > > > need one. What is an ego, but that > > > mechanism in charge of protect and > > > acquiring? If one is unemployed and looking > > > for a job, an ego is a useful thing to have. > > > > > > For most people that have all their material > > > needs satisfied, the ego is only in charge > > > of enhancement and protection of the self-image. > > > > > > > Yes, Pete, > > > > That is true for old people like you and me who already have left behind their need for reputation and their need for status and prestige this is quite easy to say. > > > > But for young people whose sexual potency closey is connected to status and prestige and to be no underdog because the underdog always gets or already has potency problems, selfimage is the most important and valuable thing. > > > > Especially for older kids who are fighting to find their place within a group a stable and strong selfimage is the important base. > > > > When Nis was asked if his teaching also is good for children he said no, it isn't. Because chidren firs have to acquire and to build up a stable ego which they later need in life to be able to survive. > > > > That's btw why I constantly repeat and repeat that the ego is one's friend and that this horrible idea of ego-killing is the most stupid and destructive thing in an idiot's mind. > > > > Werner > > > > > When one sees that, one keeps one ego in a > > > box for when it's really needed. If one is > > > not the type who carries a hammer around in > > > case a nail is found, then one doesn't have > > > an ego looking out for imaginary offenses > > > all the time, either. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 10, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Ricardo Almon <ricardo.almon@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > People are only intent on feeding the ego. They never think of knowing the > > > > > > Self. To know the Self, one should starve the ego. But unfortunately, most > > > > > > people cannot starve the ego. Instead, they cling to it, ever increasingly. > > > > > > The predominant tendency in human beings is to attract as much attention as > > > > > > possible. They want to be praised and recognized, believing that it is their > > > > > > birthright. This is all food for the ego which thrives on attention. How are > > > > > > you going to know the Self if your ego is constantly craving attention? " > > > > > > > > > > > > Mata Amritanandamayi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good question.... > > > > > > > > > > but impossible to get an answer to the question from all this beloved heavy ego freaks in here.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > don't you think it a wee bit egotistical to think.. > > > > > > > > that the human ego can know the Self? > > > > > > > > even if that's by some supposed act of legerdemain... > > > > > > > > like sublimating the ego by the ego? > > > > > > > > seems Self contradictory. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't you think it a wee bit egotistical to write in here with many different IDs?.....lol > > > > > > yes, it's possible to know what & who one is....and so also, what & who you aren't...and never realy have been. > > > > > > within such knowledge, ego is melting down slowly to a great nothingness....emptyness.... > > > > > > until it is no more..... > > > > > > what is happening after such emptyness.... > > > what such being is about....can't be known.... > > > > > > it can only be > > > > > > ... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > Ps: what's up with Bob?.....ego is driving mad?.... > > > nearly it become impossible in here to write something serious....with all this endless words of complete non-sense > > > > > > > > > > you can't be serious. > > > > that's utter nonsense. > > > > :-) > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > " who " can't/couldn't be serious? > > lol > > Marc damned if i know. " who " would? well...maybe " who " would. but i never met a " who " .. except the one that horton hears. he doesn't know nothin'. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 10, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Ricardo Almon <ricardo.almon@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People are only intent on feeding the ego. They never think of knowing the > > > > > > > Self. To know the Self, one should starve the ego. But unfortunately, most > > > > > > > people cannot starve the ego. Instead, they cling to it, ever increasingly. > > > > > > > The predominant tendency in human beings is to attract as much attention as > > > > > > > possible. They want to be praised and recognized, believing that it is their > > > > > > > birthright. This is all food for the ego which thrives on attention. How are > > > > > > > you going to know the Self if your ego is constantly craving attention? " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mata Amritanandamayi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good question.... > > > > > > > > > > > > but impossible to get an answer to the question from all this beloved heavy ego freaks in here.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't you think it a wee bit egotistical to think.. > > > > > > > > > > that the human ego can know the Self? > > > > > > > > > > even if that's by some supposed act of legerdemain... > > > > > > > > > > like sublimating the ego by the ego? > > > > > > > > > > seems Self contradictory. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't you think it a wee bit egotistical to write in here with many different IDs?.....lol > > > > > > > > yes, it's possible to know what & who one is....and so also, what & who you aren't...and never realy have been. > > > > > > > > within such knowledge, ego is melting down slowly to a great nothingness....emptyness.... > > > > > > > > until it is no more..... > > > > > > > > what is happening after such emptyness.... > > > > what such being is about....can't be known.... > > > > > > > > it can only be > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: what's up with Bob?.....ego is driving mad?.... > > > > nearly it become impossible in here to write something serious....with all this endless words of complete non-sense > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you can't be serious. > > > > > > that's utter nonsense. > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > " who " can't/couldn't be serious? > > > > lol > > > > Marc > > > damned if i know. > > " who " would? > > well...maybe " who " would. > > but i never met a " who " .. > > except the one that horton hears. > > he doesn't know nothin'. > > LOL! > > .b b.b. > lol some others speak seriously complete non-sense.... but does this make the words serious? Marc Ps: like this Krishnamurti freaks.... it even take no effort for such minds to create worlds filled up with non-sense....lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
