Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 11/30/2008 12:06:15 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > tyga writes: > > Unconditional love is: everything, nothing, both everything and nothing, > and neither. > > > > ***And now we know what about unconditional love? Everything and nothing and > neither? Unconditional love is a personal concept or we wouldn't have to > call it unconditional, and yet no person can achieve it. When Love becomes > impersonal, which it is, then the person sees no particular point to it and loses > interest. oh you bet! the one and only has spoken! and as usual it's psycho babble nutzoid. his personal concept which not even he can achieve... unconditional if you will are you beginning to lose interest? i am. guess it's unconditional love hahhahaaaaaaaaaaaaa! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 11/30/2008 12:19:53 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > tyga writes: > > souldreamone wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 11/29/2008 11:38:46 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > kailashana writes: > > > > It is said nature abhors a vacuum. > > > > When one is out-of-one's mind, unconditional love remains. > > > > ~A > > > > *** > > > > ***But who's willing to be that vacuum? It means empty. The end of > > the ego drama, the judging, the needs, the pretenses, the > > unconsciousness, the games. I see no candidates for that here. > > > > > > > > > > ------ > Being out of ones mind is not the end of consciousness. > > Being out of ones mind can be as simple as living intuitively, living > authentically. > > tyga > > > > > > ****I didn't say it was. I said it's the end of unconsciousness. oh ho ho! unconsciousness never ends. you're just not conscious of it that's all. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , tyga <tyga wrote: > > souldreamone wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 11/30/2008 12:19:53 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > tyga writes: > > > > souldreamone wrote: > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 11/29/2008 11:38:46 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > > kailashana writes: > > > > > > It is said nature abhors a vacuum. > > > > > > When one is out-of-one's mind, unconditional love remains. > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > *** > > > > > > ***But who's willing to be that vacuum? It means empty. The > > end of > > > the ego drama, the judging, the needs, the pretenses, the > > > unconsciousness, the games. I see no candidates for that here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > Being out of ones mind is not the end of consciousness. > > > > Being out of ones mind can be as simple as living intuitively, living > > authentically. > > > > tyga > > > > > > ****I didn't say it was. I said it's the end of unconsciousness. > > > > > > > > > > ------ > Ah ok, I misread the context of your message. > > I suggest that the end of unconsciousness creation, is the beginning of > conscious creation. > > I'm willing to do that, we do it here all the time, I believe. > > tyga don't believe phil when he says he didn't say something. he says that all the time. that's because he doesn't know what he's said or what he's saying... but we all know that if it doesn't get agreement.. he'll say that he didn't say what you heard him say. it's and ego thing you know. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , tyga <tyga@> wrote: > > > > souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 11/29/2008 11:38:46 P.M. Pacific Standard > Time, > > > kailashana@ writes: > > > > > > It is said nature abhors a vacuum. > > > > > > When one is out-of-one's mind, unconditional love remains. > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > *** > > > > > > ***But who's willing to be that vacuum? It means empty. The > end of > > > the ego drama, the judging, the needs, the pretenses, the > > > unconsciousness, the games. I see no candidates for that here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > Being out of ones mind is not the end of consciousness. > > > > Being out of ones mind can be as simple as living intuitively, > living > > authentically. > > > > tyga > > > > > You are already living authentically, Tyga. > > There is only what is and not what should be. > > What is is that you already are and " unconditional love " is not what > you are. It belongs to the realm of day-dreaming, of wanting " More " , > you know, all these endless speculation promising more bliss and > happiness. > > Werner yeah that bliss and happiness stuff is for losers. friggin' speculators! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 11/30/2008 12:24:53 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > tyga writes: > > souldreamone wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 11/30/2008 12:06:15 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > tyga writes: > > > > Unconditional love is: everything, nothing, both everything and > > nothing, > > and neither. > > > > > > ***And now we know what about unconditional love? Everything and > > nothing and neither? Unconditional love is a personal concept or > > we wouldn't have to call it unconditional, and yet no person can > > achieve it. When Love becomes impersonal, which it is, then the > > person sees no particular point to it and loses interest. > > > > > > > > > > ------ > What we pay attention to is what we become conscious of. > > If we perceive unconditional love as having conditions, then that is > what we will see. Then we might also believe that unconditional love is > something to be achieved. > > tyga > > > > ****How could we see unconditional love as having conditions?? Or are you > confusing the expression with the ability to express it? Yes, unconditional > love happens only under the condition that there are no conditions. no.. that's conditional phillie. where did you study rhetoric and logic? did you fail? no need to tell us. your reasoning speaks for itself. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , tyga <tyga wrote: > > souldreamone wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 11/30/2008 12:24:53 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > tyga writes: > > > > souldreamone wrote: > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 11/30/2008 12:06:15 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > > tyga writes: > > > > > > Unconditional love is: everything, nothing, both everything and > > > nothing, > > > and neither. > > > > > > > > > ***And now we know what about unconditional love? Everything and > > > nothing and neither? Unconditional love is a personal concept or > > > we wouldn't have to call it unconditional, and yet no person can > > > achieve it. When Love becomes impersonal, which it is, then the > > > person sees no particular point to it and loses interest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > What we pay attention to is what we become conscious of. > > > > If we perceive unconditional love as having conditions, then that is > > what we will see. Then we might also believe that unconditional > > love is > > something to be achieved. > > > > tyga > > > > ****How could we see unconditional love as having conditions?? Or > > are you confusing the expression with the ability to express it? > > Yes, unconditional love happens only under the condition that > > there are no conditions. > > > > > > > > > > ------ > Because unconditional love is unconditional, anything is allowable, > anything is permissible. > > In an infinite universe, all things are possible. > > tyga even for it to be finite in it's infinite stature. strangely there is math to prove that. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 11/30/2008 12:40:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > tyga writes: > > Werner Woehr wrote: > > > >> Being out of ones mind is not the end of consciousness. > >> > >> Being out of ones mind can be as simple as living intuitively, > >> > > living > > > >> authentically. > >> > >> tyga > >> > >> > > > > > > You are already living authentically, Tyga. > > > > There is only what is and not what should be. > > > > What is is that you already are and " unconditional love " is not what > > you are. It belongs to the realm of day-dreaming, of wanting " More " , > > you know, all these endless speculation promising more bliss and > > happiness. > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > Yes, your are right Werner. > > I am that I am. > > tyga > > > > ****What does that mean, " I am that I am " ? > It is told that Jesus was cruzified because when asked by some Jews who he is he answered " I am that I am " . And because " I am that I am " was the name of God (JHWH, Jahawah, Jahve, Jahveh, Jahwe, Jehovah, Jehowah) which was a mortal sin when uttered he had to bear those well know consequences. Is it that why you stumbled across Tyga's remark, Phil ? Are you afraid he might get cruzified too ? Werner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 11/30/2008 12:29:54 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > tyga writes: > > souldreamone wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 11/30/2008 12:19:53 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > tyga writes: > > > > souldreamone wrote: > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 11/29/2008 11:38:46 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > > kailashana writes: > > > > > > It is said nature abhors a vacuum. > > > > > > When one is out-of-one's mind, unconditional love remains. > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > *** > > > > > > ***But who's willing to be that vacuum? It means empty. The > > end of > > > the ego drama, the judging, the needs, the pretenses, the > > > unconsciousness, the games. I see no candidates for that here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > Being out of ones mind is not the end of consciousness. > > > > Being out of ones mind can be as simple as living intuitively, living > > authentically. > > > > tyga > > > > > > ****I didn't say it was. I said it's the end of unconsciousness. > > > > > > > > > > ------ > Ah ok, I misread the context of your message. > > I suggest that the end of unconsciousness creation, is the beginning of > conscious creation. > > I'm willing to do that, we do it here all the time, I believe. > > tyga > > > > ****Well, as Werner might say, the idea of creation is another topic, at > least to me. What I mean by unconsciousness is basically believing our own > stories. Seeing and hearing what we want or expect to see or hear and believing > that's what's here. Denial and projection, which are unconscious by definition. > Accepting various belief systems as real, or our personal opinions as > objectively true. Folks typically see the world through such heavy filters that > what is seen bears little resemblance to what is there. That's what I mean by > unconsciousness. > The reason you can't swing a stick around here without hitting an > enlightened person is because they're unconscious and believe their own fantasies. seeing and believing your own unconscious bullshit huh? and you believe your own fantasies too. yessiree..you should be lecturing at Harvard! they love comedy there. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 11/30/2008 1:11:06 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > wwoehr writes: > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 11/30/2008 12:37:04 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > wwoehr@ writes: > > > > Nisargadatta , tyga <tyga@> wrote: > > > > > > souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 11/29/2008 11:38:46 P.M. Pacific Standard > > Time, > > > > kailashana@ writes: > > > > > > > > It is said nature abhors a vacuum. > > > > > > > > When one is out-of-one's mind, unconditional love remains. > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > ***But who's willing to be that vacuum? It means empty. > The > > end of > > > > the ego drama, the judging, the needs, the pretenses, the > > > > unconsciousness, the games. I see no candidates for that > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > --- > > ------ > > > Being out of ones mind is not the end of consciousness. > > > > > > Being out of ones mind can be as simple as living intuitively, > > living > > > authentically. > > > > > > tyga > > > > > > > > > You are already living authentically, Tyga. > > > > There is only what is and not what should be. > > > > What is is that you already are and " unconditional love " is not > what > > you are. It belongs to the realm of day-dreaming, of > wanting " More " , > > you know, all these endless speculation promising more bliss and > > happiness. > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****Yes, and more often, the ego that wants to see itself as > unconditionally > > loving. > > > > > > > Funny, isn't it, Phil ? > > Werner > > > > > *****Funny/scary bears. it sure doesn't take much for you boys to have a laugh. or to scare you either my little bears. hey phil..i told you to go into comedy. even if you fall flat on stage..that would be funny too. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 11/30/2008 12:40:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > tyga@ writes: > > > > Werner Woehr wrote: > > > > > >> Being out of ones mind is not the end of consciousness. > > >> > > >> Being out of ones mind can be as simple as living intuitively, > > >> > > > living > > > > > >> authentically. > > >> > > >> tyga > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > You are already living authentically, Tyga. > > > > > > There is only what is and not what should be. > > > > > > What is is that you already are and " unconditional love " is not > what > > > you are. It belongs to the realm of day-dreaming, of > wanting " More " , > > > you know, all these endless speculation promising more bliss and > > > happiness. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > Yes, your are right Werner. > > > > I am that I am. > > > > tyga > > > > > > > > ****What does that mean, " I am that I am " ? > > > > > It is told that Jesus was cruzified because when asked by some Jews > who he is he answered " I am that I am " . > > And because " I am that I am " was the name of God (JHWH, Jahawah, > Jahve, Jahveh, Jahwe, Jehovah, Jehowah) which was a mortal sin when > uttered he had to bear those well know consequences. > > Is it that why you stumbled across Tyga's remark, Phil ? Are you > afraid he might get cruzified too ? > > > > > Werner oh for Christ's sake werner.. that's what the burning bush said to Moses. show me ONE place in ANY of the Gospels..synoptic 4 or otherwise.. where the hell J.C. ever said that. i'm beginning to understand you now. you have poor eyesight so you don't read everything you quote from. that's why too, it's wrong so many times. whether it's science, religion, philosophy or politics.. you have your own versions of anything written. reread those Gospels wern...slowly with a magnifying glass. and I'm talking New testament. you evidently have confused the Old with the New. that's not new of course. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 11/30/2008 12:40:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > > tyga@ writes: > > > > > > Werner Woehr wrote: > > > > > > > >> Being out of ones mind is not the end of consciousness. > > > >> > > > >> Being out of ones mind can be as simple as living intuitively, > > > >> > > > > living > > > > > > > >> authentically. > > > >> > > > >> tyga > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > You are already living authentically, Tyga. > > > > > > > > There is only what is and not what should be. > > > > > > > > What is is that you already are and " unconditional love " is not > > what > > > > you are. It belongs to the realm of day-dreaming, of > > wanting " More " , > > > > you know, all these endless speculation promising more bliss and > > > > happiness. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, your are right Werner. > > > > > > I am that I am. > > > > > > tyga > > > > > > > > > > > > ****What does that mean, " I am that I am " ? > > > > > > > > > It is told that Jesus was cruzified because when asked by some Jews > > who he is he answered " I am that I am " . > > > > And because " I am that I am " was the name of God (JHWH, Jahawah, > > Jahve, Jahveh, Jahwe, Jehovah, Jehowah) which was a mortal sin when > > uttered he had to bear those well know consequences. > > > > Is it that why you stumbled across Tyga's remark, Phil ? Are you > > afraid he might get cruzified too ? > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > oh for Christ's sake werner.. > > that's what the burning bush said to Moses. > > show me ONE place in ANY of the Gospels..synoptic 4 or otherwise.. > > where the hell J.C. ever said that. > > i'm beginning to understand you now. > > you have poor eyesight so you don't read everything you quote from. Yes, Rob, that's true, When reading posts then due to my bad eyesight I only read parts of them and the rest I am guessing. And that indeed opens the door to misunderstandings. But I hope I more and more will impove and in the meantime I ask you to forgive me. > > that's why too, it's wrong so many times. > > whether it's science, religion, philosophy or politics.. > > you have your own versions of anything written. > > reread those Gospels wern...slowly with a magnifying glass. > > and I'm talking New testament. No, thank you, Rob. But if you allow me, I would suggest you better go to that web site: http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/ Werner > > you evidently have confused the Old with the New. > > that's not new of course. > > .b b.b. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 11/30/2008 12:40:14 A.M. Pacific Standard > Time, > > > > tyga@ writes: > > > > > > > > Werner Woehr wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Being out of ones mind is not the end of consciousness. > > > > >> > > > > >> Being out of ones mind can be as simple as living > intuitively, > > > > >> > > > > > living > > > > > > > > > >> authentically. > > > > >> > > > > >> tyga > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are already living authentically, Tyga. > > > > > > > > > > There is only what is and not what should be. > > > > > > > > > > What is is that you already are and " unconditional love " is > not > > > what > > > > > you are. It belongs to the realm of day-dreaming, of > > > wanting " More " , > > > > > you know, all these endless speculation promising more bliss > and > > > > > happiness. > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, your are right Werner. > > > > > > > > I am that I am. > > > > > > > > tyga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****What does that mean, " I am that I am " ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is told that Jesus was cruzified because when asked by some > Jews > > > who he is he answered " I am that I am " . > > > > > > And because " I am that I am " was the name of God (JHWH, Jahawah, > > > Jahve, Jahveh, Jahwe, Jehovah, Jehowah) which was a mortal sin > when > > > uttered he had to bear those well know consequences. > > > > > > Is it that why you stumbled across Tyga's remark, Phil ? Are you > > > afraid he might get cruzified too ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > oh for Christ's sake werner.. > > > > that's what the burning bush said to Moses. > > > > show me ONE place in ANY of the Gospels..synoptic 4 or otherwise.. > > > > where the hell J.C. ever said that. > > > > i'm beginning to understand you now. > > > > you have poor eyesight so you don't read everything you quote from. > > > Yes, Rob, that's true, > > When reading posts then due to my bad eyesight I only read parts of > them and the rest I am guessing. And that indeed opens the door to > misunderstandings. > > But I hope I more and more will impove and in the meantime I ask you > to forgive me. > > > > > > that's why too, it's wrong so many times. > > > > whether it's science, religion, philosophy or politics.. > > > > you have your own versions of anything written. > > > > reread those Gospels wern...slowly with a magnifying glass. > > > > and I'm talking New testament. > > > No, thank you, Rob. > > But if you allow me, I would suggest you better go to that web site: > > http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/ > > Werner > > > > > > you evidently have confused the Old with the New. > > > > that's not new of course. > > > > .b b.b. no apologies werner. i don't believe in apologies nor the apologists themselves. and it doesn't matter if Jesus existed or not. James Bond never said " abadee abadee abadee..dat's all folks " . don't try and come up with a fraudulent excuse for the misquote. it doesn't impress. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > No, thank you, Rob. > > > > But if you allow me, I would suggest you better go to that web site: > > > > http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/ > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > you evidently have confused the Old with the New. > > > > > > that's not new of course. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > no apologies werner. > > i don't believe in apologies nor the apologists themselves. > > and it doe,sn't matter if Jesus existed or not. > > James Bond never said " abadee abadee abadee..dat's all folks " . > > don't try and come up with a fraudulent excuse for the misquote. > > it doesn't impress. > > .b b.b. > Ok, Rob, Maybe that might impress you more: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/914392/zen_school_of_farting_intro/ Werner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > No, thank you, Rob. > > > > > > But if you allow me, I would suggest you better go to that web > site: > > > > > > http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/ > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you evidently have confused the Old with the New. > > > > > > > > that's not new of course. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > no apologies werner. > > > > i don't believe in apologies nor the apologists themselves. > > > > and it doe,sn't matter if Jesus existed or not. > > > > James Bond never said " abadee abadee abadee..dat's all folks " . > > > > don't try and come up with a fraudulent excuse for the misquote. > > > > it doesn't impress. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > Ok, Rob, > > Maybe that might impress you more: > > http://www.metacafe.com/watch/914392/zen_school_of_farting_intro/ > > Werner so that's how you entertain yourself. well might as well if you can't read without brain farts. not very impressive though. you could of at least ignited the jet stream for a visual. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > No, thank you, Rob. > > > > > > > > But if you allow me, I would suggest you better go to that web > > site: > > > > > > > > http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/ > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you evidently have confused the Old with the New. > > > > > > > > > > that's not new of course. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > no apologies werner. > > > > > > i don't believe in apologies nor the apologists themselves. > > > > > > and it doe,sn't matter if Jesus existed or not. > > > > > > James Bond never said " abadee abadee abadee..dat's all folks " . > > > > > > don't try and come up with a fraudulent excuse for the misquote. > > > > > > it doesn't impress. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > Ok, Rob, > > > > Maybe that might impress you more: > > > > http://www.metacafe.com/watch/914392/zen_school_of_farting_intro/ > > > > Werner > > > so that's how you entertain yourself. > > well might as well if you can't read without brain farts. > > not very impressive though. > > you could of at least ignited the jet stream for a visual. > > .b b.b. > Nice to see, Rob, that a little Zen fart had the power to blow off all your usual LOLs and ROFLMAOs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > No, thank you, Rob. > > > > > > > > > > But if you allow me, I would suggest you better go to that > web > > > site: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/ > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you evidently have confused the Old with the New. > > > > > > > > > > > > that's not new of course. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > no apologies werner. > > > > > > > > i don't believe in apologies nor the apologists themselves. > > > > > > > > and it doe,sn't matter if Jesus existed or not. > > > > > > > > James Bond never said " abadee abadee abadee..dat's all folks " . > > > > > > > > don't try and come up with a fraudulent excuse for the misquote. > > > > > > > > it doesn't impress. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, Rob, > > > > > > Maybe that might impress you more: > > > > > > http://www.metacafe.com/watch/914392/zen_school_of_farting_intro/ > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > so that's how you entertain yourself. > > > > well might as well if you can't read without brain farts. > > > > not very impressive though. > > > > you could of at least ignited the jet stream for a visual. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > Nice to see, Rob, that a little Zen fart had the power to blow off > all your usual LOLs and ROFLMAOs. > > ROFLMAO! (ohne fart durchbrennend) it would have been funnier if that flatus had a lump in it. at your age werner you should never trust a fart. you know the sphincter is the only body muscle... that when it relaxes, it's working. and the more relaxed the more ecstatic the experience. kind of reminds me of phil's mouth and his happiness with the flow. they both seem relaxed....in working order... and producing the same results..one way or the other.. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > No, thank you, Rob. > > > > > > > > > > But if you allow me, I would suggest you better go to that > web > > > site: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/ > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you evidently have confused the Old with the New. > > > > > > > > > > > > that's not new of course. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > no apologies werner. > > > > > > > > i don't believe in apologies nor the apologists themselves. > > > > > > > > and it doe,sn't matter if Jesus existed or not. > > > > > > > > James Bond never said " abadee abadee abadee..dat's all folks " . > > > > > > > > don't try and come up with a fraudulent excuse for the misquote. > > > > > > > > it doesn't impress. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, Rob, > > > > > > Maybe that might impress you more: > > > > > > http://www.metacafe.com/watch/914392/zen_school_of_farting_intro/ > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > so that's how you entertain yourself. > > > > well might as well if you can't read without brain farts. > > > > not very impressive though. > > > > you could of at least ignited the jet stream for a visual. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > Nice to see, Rob, that a little Zen fart had the power to blow off > all your usual LOLs and ROFLMAOs. > > ROFLMAO! (ohne fart durchbrennend) it could have been better. that flatus could have had a lump in it. at your age werner you should never trust a fart. the sphincter is the only body muscle that when relaxed is working. and the more relaxed the more ecstatic the experience. reminds me of phil's mouth. both seem relaxed..in working order..producing the same results. one way or the other. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > No, thank you, Rob. > > > > > > > > > > > > But if you allow me, I would suggest you better go to that > > web > > > > site: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you evidently have confused the Old with the New. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's not new of course. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no apologies werner. > > > > > > > > > > i don't believe in apologies nor the apologists themselves. > > > > > > > > > > and it doe,sn't matter if Jesus existed or not. > > > > > > > > > > James Bond never said " abadee abadee abadee..dat's all folks " . > > > > > > > > > > don't try and come up with a fraudulent excuse for the misquote. > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't impress. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, Rob, > > > > > > > > Maybe that might impress you more: > > > > > > > > http://www.metacafe.com/watch/914392/zen_school_of_farting_intro/ > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > so that's how you entertain yourself. > > > > > > well might as well if you can't read without brain farts. > > > > > > not very impressive though. > > > > > > you could of at least ignited the jet stream for a visual. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > Nice to see, Rob, that a little Zen fart had the power to blow off > > all your usual LOLs and ROFLMAOs. > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! (ohne fart durchbrennend) > > it could have been better. > > that flatus could have had a lump in it. > > at your age werner you should never trust a fart. > > the sphincter is the only body muscle that when relaxed is working. > > and the more relaxed the more ecstatic the experience. > > reminds me of phil's mouth. > > both seem relaxed..in working order..producing the same results. > > one way or the other. > > .b b.b. > Thanks Rob, for explaining some details concerning farting. Sometimes indeed it happens that others in a humble way offer the chance to learn from them. I think I will keep an eye on you. Werner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " > <wwoehr@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, thank you, Rob. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But if you allow me, I would suggest you better go to > that > > > web > > > > > site: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you evidently have confused the Old with the New. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's not new of course. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no apologies werner. > > > > > > > > > > > > i don't believe in apologies nor the apologists themselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > and it doe,sn't matter if Jesus existed or not. > > > > > > > > > > > > James Bond never said " abadee abadee abadee..dat's all > folks " . > > > > > > > > > > > > don't try and come up with a fraudulent excuse for the > misquote. > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't impress. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, Rob, > > > > > > > > > > Maybe that might impress you more: > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.metacafe.com/watch/914392/zen_school_of_farting_intro/ > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > so that's how you entertain yourself. > > > > > > > > well might as well if you can't read without brain farts. > > > > > > > > not very impressive though. > > > > > > > > you could of at least ignited the jet stream for a visual. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice to see, Rob, that a little Zen fart had the power to blow > off > > > all your usual LOLs and ROFLMAOs. > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! (ohne fart durchbrennend) > > > > it could have been better. > > > > that flatus could have had a lump in it. > > > > at your age werner you should never trust a fart. > > > > the sphincter is the only body muscle that when relaxed is working. > > > > and the more relaxed the more ecstatic the experience. > > > > reminds me of phil's mouth. > > > > both seem relaxed..in working order..producing the same results. > > > > one way or the other. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > Thanks Rob, for explaining some details concerning farting. > > Sometimes indeed it happens that others in a humble way offer the > chance to learn from them. > > I think I will keep an eye on you. > > Werner no thanks required. i don't find that sort of thing necessary. by the way.. that eye of yours might get dry if you keep it on me. besides, it's a bad eye anyway right. maybe keeping them where they don't belong.. is the cause of your eyesight problem. humbly giving you some advice, ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " > > <wwoehr@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, thank you, Rob. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But if you allow me, I would suggest you better go to > > that > > > > web > > > > > > site: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you evidently have confused the Old with the New. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's not new of course. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no apologies werner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i don't believe in apologies nor the apologists themselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and it doe,sn't matter if Jesus existed or not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > James Bond never said " abadee abadee abadee..dat's all > > folks " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't try and come up with a fraudulent excuse for the > > misquote. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't impress. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, Rob, > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe that might impress you more: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.metacafe.com/watch/914392/zen_school_of_farting_intro/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so that's how you entertain yourself. > > > > > > > > > > well might as well if you can't read without brain farts. > > > > > > > > > > not very impressive though. > > > > > > > > > > you could of at least ignited the jet stream for a visual. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice to see, Rob, that a little Zen fart had the power to blow > > off > > > > all your usual LOLs and ROFLMAOs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! (ohne fart durchbrennend) > > > > > > it could have been better. > > > > > > that flatus could have had a lump in it. > > > > > > at your age werner you should never trust a fart. > > > > > > the sphincter is the only body muscle that when relaxed is working. > > > > > > and the more relaxed the more ecstatic the experience. > > > > > > reminds me of phil's mouth. > > > > > > both seem relaxed..in working order..producing the same results. > > > > > > one way or the other. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > Thanks Rob, for explaining some details concerning farting. > > > > Sometimes indeed it happens that others in a humble way offer the > > chance to learn from them. > > > > I think I will keep an eye on you. > > > > Werner > > > no thanks required. > > i don't find that sort of thing necessary. > > by the way.. > > that eye of yours might get dry if you keep it on me. > > besides, it's a bad eye anyway right. > > maybe keeping them where they don't belong.. > > is the cause of your eyesight problem. > > humbly giving you some advice, Maybe you could be right, Rob. I had a retina ablation in both eyes and two months ago I had a stroke which damaged the visual part in the rear of the brain which caused a further blind spot which now no longer allows me to drive a car. I will think about your words. Werner > > .b b.b. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " > <wwoehr@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " > > > <wwoehr@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, thank you, Rob. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But if you allow me, I would suggest you better go to > > > that > > > > > web > > > > > > > site: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you evidently have confused the Old with the New. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's not new of course. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no apologies werner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i don't believe in apologies nor the apologists > themselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and it doe,sn't matter if Jesus existed or not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > James Bond never said " abadee abadee abadee..dat's all > > > folks " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't try and come up with a fraudulent excuse for the > > > misquote. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't impress. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, Rob, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe that might impress you more: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.metacafe.com/watch/914392/zen_school_of_farting_intro/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so that's how you entertain yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > well might as well if you can't read without brain farts. > > > > > > > > > > > > not very impressive though. > > > > > > > > > > > > you could of at least ignited the jet stream for a visual. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice to see, Rob, that a little Zen fart had the power to > blow > > > off > > > > > all your usual LOLs and ROFLMAOs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! (ohne fart durchbrennend) > > > > > > > > it could have been better. > > > > > > > > that flatus could have had a lump in it. > > > > > > > > at your age werner you should never trust a fart. > > > > > > > > the sphincter is the only body muscle that when relaxed is > working. > > > > > > > > and the more relaxed the more ecstatic the experience. > > > > > > > > reminds me of phil's mouth. > > > > > > > > both seem relaxed..in working order..producing the same results. > > > > > > > > one way or the other. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Rob, for explaining some details concerning farting. > > > > > > Sometimes indeed it happens that others in a humble way offer the > > > chance to learn from them. > > > > > > I think I will keep an eye on you. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > no thanks required. > > > > i don't find that sort of thing necessary. > > > > by the way.. > > > > that eye of yours might get dry if you keep it on me. > > > > besides, it's a bad eye anyway right. > > > > maybe keeping them where they don't belong.. > > > > is the cause of your eyesight problem. > > > > humbly giving you some advice, > > > Maybe you could be right, Rob. > > I had a retina ablation in both eyes and two months ago I had a > stroke which damaged the visual part in the rear of the brain which > caused a further blind spot which now no longer allows me to drive a > car. > > I will think about your words. > > Werner they allowed you to drive a car before??? that's amazing! by the way.. i've had some health problems myself. so has everybody. that's life pal. ..b b.b. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2008 In a message dated 11/30/2008 11:00:23 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, kailashana writes: We tend to forget one thing: Unconditional love for our own life... as it appears...exactly as itappears... with all its blind spots and short comings and misgivings.Then when we can love our own life... we can reach out and *touchsomeone*.~A Yup, self acceptance (self love) is extremely important. Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2008 > > > > I had a retina ablation in both eyes and two months ago I had a > stroke which damaged the visual part in the rear of the brain which > caused a further blind spot which now no longer allows me to drive a > car. > > I will think about your words. > > Werner > P: I do sympathize with you, and wish you the best of lucks. I'm sure at some level you don't mind, so that causes no suffering. Only in comparing present and past, a sense of lost an nonacceptance arises, as K said about his secret. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I had a retina ablation in both eyes and two months ago I had a > > stroke which damaged the visual part in the rear of the brain which > > caused a further blind spot which now no longer allows me to drive a > > car. > > > > I will think about your words. > > > > Werner > > > > P: I do sympathize with you, and wish you > the best of lucks. I'm sure at some level you > don't mind, so that causes no suffering. > Only in comparing present and past, a > sense of lost an nonacceptance arises, > as K said about his secret. > Thanks for your embracing sympathy, Pete. Indeed, I take what comes. Surely with all those unavoidable thoughts of regetting what has passed. But they don't take root. Tell me, are we like two old dogs licking the wounds, each in his own way ? Werner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2008 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 11/30/2008 11:00:23 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > kailashana writes: > > We tend to forget one thing: > > Unconditional love for our own life... as it appears...exactly as it > appears... with all its blind spots and short comings and misgivings. > > Then when we can love our own life... we can reach out and *touch > someone*. > > ~A > > > > > Yup, self acceptance (self love) is extremely important. maybe to a 'self'. of itself: love requires no acceptance. love means never having to say you're sorry. so i won't. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
