RES: remember the 'I' thought and seek its source

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111

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> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

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> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

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> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

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> > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

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> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

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> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

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> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Silver " <silver@>

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> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

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> > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Silver "

<silver@>

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> > > > > > > > > > > " So, if the I-thought is to be eliminated, who

is that

> > > " I " ?

> > > > > > Isnt

> > > > > > > > > > > the " I " , the source of the thought, the Self?? "

> > > > > > > > > > > **********************

> > > > > > > > > > > First, try as you might, you will never succeed in

> > > > > > > > > eliminating " the I-

> > > > > > > > > > > thought. " You speak of it as though it were

something

> > > > > > comparable

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > excrement that the body needs to eliminate! Rather,

> > > Ramana

> > > > > > > > > encourages

> > > > > > > > > > > you to retain that thought. Rather, he says, " ...one

> > > should

> > > > > > never

> > > > > > > > > > > relinquish one's self. " Now, think about this:

If the

> > > source

> > > > > > of,

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > .> root, of the I-thought is your Self, then

eliminating

> > > that

> > > > > > > > > thought

> > > > > > > > > > > would require you to relinquish your self. Uprooting

> > your

> > > > > self

> > > > > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > > > > kill you. I know, I know. Some will say, " But, I

want

> > > to be

> > > > > > > > > uprooted!

> > > > > > > > > > > My ego must die! " People speak about the " death of

> > > ego " and

> > > > > > > > > weirdly

> > > > > > > > > > > get all excited over it, as if that were a good

thing.

> > > > It's a

> > > > > > > > > > > ridiculous idea. And not one person here who has

ever

> > > > > written a

> > > > > > > > > > > single word on this white message board can prove

> to you

> > > > > > that the

> > > > > > > > > > > death of ego is either possible or even a good

thing.

> > > > > > Because the

> > > > > > > > > > > moment they start writing, they have disqualified

> > > > > themselves as

> > > > > > > > > > > beings without ego. Their ego surfaces whenever they

> > hit

> > > > > > > > > that 'Send'

> > > > > > > > > > > button in the bottom right hand corner of your

> > screen. See

> > > > > > it? of

> > > > > > > > > > > course you do! You'd be dead if you didn't. Or

> > physically

> > > > > > blind,

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > which case, you'd still be there, body-mind, to

> > figure out

> > > > > > how to

> > > > > > > > > hit

> > > > > > > > > > > that 'Send' button. So, forget the whole idea of

> > > > > > " eliminating the

> > > > > > > > > I-

> > > > > > > > > > > thought. " Just live your life and enjoy it!!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Silver

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > .........and when that fails......which it will.......

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > .......perhaps the Understanding will percolate down

> > > > through the

> > > > > > > > > > layers of opacity..........and you will stand out

on the

> > > > > > > > > > open....naked....and fearless.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > *************************

> > > > > > > > > See? It's gibberish like that which sounds really deep

> > > but, in

> > > > > > > > > reality, it means crap. Live your life and enjoy it.

Your

> > > > > body-mind

> > > > > > > > > doesn't care whether or not you " Understand. " You can

> either

> > > > > sit in

> > > > > > > > > the coffee machine all day and percolate for an

> eternity or

> > > > > you can

> > > > > > > > > pour yourself into Life, openly (go naked if that's your

> > > thing),

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > fearlessly.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Silver

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The attempt to " live " " your " " life " " and enjoy

it " ...is the

> > > > cause of

> > > > > > > > your suffering.....It is the suffering.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You cannot " pour your-self into Life " .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You ARE Life........anything that you think you do...or

> > > think you

> > > > > > > > don't do.......only adds walls to the make believe prison.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > why keep putting walls up then?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > be still and silent.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 'you' have nothing to offer but more prison walls.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > even though you are in solitary you should watch out,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > as Life always does.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have an option to be still and silent?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > toombaru

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > evidently not.

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I cannot be silent.

> > > >

> > > > I will, however, quit this list if you will.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > >

> > >

> > > do you believe that you have a choice?

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> >

> >

> > My " choice " depends upon yours.

> >

> >

> > toombaru

>

>

> don't try an pin the blame or commendation of 'your' actions on 'me'.

>

> i don't care one way or the other.

>

> i don't care at all.

>

> take responsibility for your own fantasy.

>

> take command of what you can.

>

> and what you can't leave alone.

>

> membership on this list is not significant.

>

> the choice is 'yours' or 'yours' to follow.

>

> and what the hell difference will either 'choice' make?

>

> and to whom?

>

> and why so?

>

> what is 'is'.

>

> .b b.b.

>

 

 

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