Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Ego is called a story most of the time but I like to think of it as a town. suppose you are in a room of your house or apt. Suppose the blinds are drawn or it is night.Even though you can't see anything of the outside, you still know all about it. While you are sitting in that blind room you know that outside to the left is the river and to the right is the library and straight ahead is where the park is. You not only know these things, you really almost feel them. YOU KNOW WHERE YOU ARE. But it is really all thought.If you fell asleep and somebody transported you to another town and put you in a room that looked just like the one you fell asleep in, you would wake and be absolutely sure that the river is over there and the library is over there etc. Ego is like that town you " know " all about while you are in a closed room.It is exactly the same thing--all thought.How does it feel to be a bunch of thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > Ego is called a story most of the time but I like to think of it as a > town. suppose you are in a room of your house or apt. Suppose the > blinds are drawn or it is night.Even though you can't see anything of > the outside, you still know all about it. While you are sitting in > that blind room you know that outside to the left is the river and to > the right is the library and straight ahead is where the park is. You > not only know these things, you really almost feel them. YOU KNOW > WHERE YOU ARE. But it is really all thought.If you fell asleep and > somebody transported you to another town and put you in a room that > looked just like the one you fell asleep in, you would wake and be > absolutely sure that the river is over there and the library is over > there etc. Ego is like that town you " know " all about while you are in > a closed room.It is exactly the same thing--all thought.How does it > feel to be a bunch of thoughts? > Is it your belief that the bunch of thoughts can grasp the vacuity of its situation? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > Ego is called a story most of the time but I like to think of it as a > town. suppose you are in a room of your house or apt. Suppose the > blinds are drawn or it is night.Even though you can't see anything of > the outside, you still know all about it. While you are sitting in > that blind room you know that outside to the left is the river and to > the right is the library and straight ahead is where the park is. You > not only know these things, you really almost feel them. YOU KNOW > WHERE YOU ARE. But it is really all thought.If you fell asleep and > somebody transported you to another town and put you in a room that > looked just like the one you fell asleep in, you would wake and be > absolutely sure that the river is over there and the library is over > there etc. Ego is like that town you " know " all about while you are in > a closed room.It is exactly the same thing--all thought.How does it > feel to be a bunch of thoughts? ego-minds Love.....to write stories......to imaginary others...... Marc Ps:they don't " see " this....their attachments.....to a " bunch of thoughts " .....without meaning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > Ego is called a story most of the time but I like to think of it as a > > town. suppose you are in a room of your house or apt. Suppose the > > blinds are drawn or it is night.Even though you can't see anything of > > the outside, you still know all about it. While you are sitting in > > that blind room you know that outside to the left is the river and to > > the right is the library and straight ahead is where the park is. You > > not only know these things, you really almost feel them. YOU KNOW > > WHERE YOU ARE. But it is really all thought.If you fell asleep and > > somebody transported you to another town and put you in a room that > > looked just like the one you fell asleep in, you would wake and be > > absolutely sure that the river is over there and the library is over > > there etc. Ego is like that town you " know " all about while you are in > > a closed room.It is exactly the same thing--all thought.How does it > > feel to be a bunch of thoughts? > > > > > Is it your belief that the bunch of thoughts can grasp the vacuity of > its situation? > > > toombaru is it your belief that a bunch of thoughts can actually clench the ability of saying something about the vacuity of thought's situation'? it appears that 'you' believe somehow that 'you' are above it all. oh...the vacuity! every time your balloon blows up. that's the situation. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > Ego is called a story most of the time but I like to think of it as a > > town. suppose you are in a room of your house or apt. Suppose the > > blinds are drawn or it is night.Even though you can't see anything of > > the outside, you still know all about it. While you are sitting in > > that blind room you know that outside to the left is the river and to > > the right is the library and straight ahead is where the park is. You > > not only know these things, you really almost feel them. YOU KNOW > > WHERE YOU ARE. But it is really all thought.If you fell asleep and > > somebody transported you to another town and put you in a room that > > looked just like the one you fell asleep in, you would wake and be > > absolutely sure that the river is over there and the library is over > > there etc. Ego is like that town you " know " all about while you are in > > a closed room.It is exactly the same thing--all thought.How does it > > feel to be a bunch of thoughts? > > > > > Is it your belief that the bunch of thoughts can grasp the vacuity of > its situation? > > > toombaru > I don't think it can grasp anything. It seems to be a lot of thoughts held together by an " I " feeling or magnetized by an 'I " feeling. Maybe it has a lifespan and after several million incarnations it starts to weaken and fall apart and it loses opacity and can be seen through by the Seer.Can't prove it by me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > Ego is called a story most of the time but I like to think of it as a > > town. suppose you are in a room of your house or apt. Suppose the > > blinds are drawn or it is night.Even though you can't see anything of > > the outside, you still know all about it. While you are sitting in > > that blind room you know that outside to the left is the river and to > > the right is the library and straight ahead is where the park is. You > > not only know these things, you really almost feel them. YOU KNOW > > WHERE YOU ARE. But it is really all thought.If you fell asleep and > > somebody transported you to another town and put you in a room that > > looked just like the one you fell asleep in, you would wake and be > > absolutely sure that the river is over there and the library is over > > there etc. Ego is like that town you " know " all about while you are > in > > a closed room.It is exactly the same thing--all thought.How does it > > feel to be a bunch of thoughts? > > > > > > ego-minds Love.....to write stories......to imaginary others...... > > > Marc > > > Ps:they don't " see " this....their attachments.....to a " bunch of > thoughts " .....without meaning > I assure you whatever was written in that Ego town paragraph was not my doing. Estoy inocente. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > Ego is called a story most of the time but I like to think of it as a > > > town. suppose you are in a room of your house or apt. Suppose the > > > blinds are drawn or it is night.Even though you can't see anything of > > > the outside, you still know all about it. While you are sitting in > > > that blind room you know that outside to the left is the river and to > > > the right is the library and straight ahead is where the park is. You > > > not only know these things, you really almost feel them. YOU KNOW > > > WHERE YOU ARE. But it is really all thought.If you fell asleep and > > > somebody transported you to another town and put you in a room that > > > looked just like the one you fell asleep in, you would wake and be > > > absolutely sure that the river is over there and the library is over > > > there etc. Ego is like that town you " know " all about while you > are in > > > a closed room.It is exactly the same thing--all thought.How does it > > > feel to be a bunch of thoughts? > > > > > > > > > Is it your belief that the bunch of thoughts can grasp the vacuity of > > its situation? > > > > > > toombaru > > > is it your belief that a bunch of thoughts can actually clench the > > ability of saying something about the vacuity of thought's situation'? > > it appears that 'you' believe somehow that 'you' are above it all. > > oh...the vacuity! > > every time your balloon blows up. > > that's the situation. > > > .b b.b. >Not inteneding to pose as an expert on ego but---EGO IS SOMETHING THAT IS SEEN, NOT SOMETHING THAT SEES. HO DETTO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > Ego is called a story most of the time but I like to think of it > as a > > > town. suppose you are in a room of your house or apt. Suppose > the > > > blinds are drawn or it is night.Even though you can't see > anything of > > > the outside, you still know all about it. While you are sitting > in > > > that blind room you know that outside to the left is the river > and to > > > the right is the library and straight ahead is where the park > is. You > > > not only know these things, you really almost feel them. YOU > KNOW > > > WHERE YOU ARE. But it is really all thought.If you fell asleep > and > > > somebody transported you to another town and put you in a room > that > > > looked just like the one you fell asleep in, you would wake and > be > > > absolutely sure that the river is over there and the library is > over > > > there etc. Ego is like that town you " know " all about while you > are > > in > > > a closed room.It is exactly the same thing--all thought.How does > it > > > feel to be a bunch of thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > ego-minds Love.....to write stories......to imaginary others...... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > Ps:they don't " see " this....their attachments.....to a " bunch of > > thoughts " .....without meaning > > > I assure you whatever was written in that Ego town paragraph was not > my doing. Estoy inocente. ....yes, typical.....listen to great ego-minds....they are always inocente.... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Ego is called a story most of the time but I like to think of > it as a > > > > town. suppose you are in a room of your house or apt. Suppose > the > > > > blinds are drawn or it is night.Even though you can't see > anything of > > > > the outside, you still know all about it. While you are > sitting in > > > > that blind room you know that outside to the left is the river > and to > > > > the right is the library and straight ahead is where the park > is. You > > > > not only know these things, you really almost feel them. YOU > KNOW > > > > WHERE YOU ARE. But it is really all thought.If you fell asleep > and > > > > somebody transported you to another town and put you in a room > that > > > > looked just like the one you fell asleep in, you would wake > and be > > > > absolutely sure that the river is over there and the library > is over > > > > there etc. Ego is like that town you " know " all about while you > > are in > > > > a closed room.It is exactly the same thing--all thought.How > does it > > > > feel to be a bunch of thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it your belief that the bunch of thoughts can grasp the > vacuity of > > > its situation? > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > is it your belief that a bunch of thoughts can actually clench the > > > > ability of saying something about the vacuity of thought's > situation'? > > > > it appears that 'you' believe somehow that 'you' are above it all. > > > > oh...the vacuity! > > > > every time your balloon blows up. > > > > that's the situation. > > > > > > .b b.b. > >Not inteneding to pose as an expert on ego but---EGO IS SOMETHING > THAT IS SEEN, NOT SOMETHING THAT SEES. HO DETTO. there is no such thing as 'ego'. ergo ego go. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > Ego is called a story most of the time but I like to think of it as a > > > town. suppose you are in a room of your house or apt. Suppose the > > > blinds are drawn or it is night.Even though you can't see anything of > > > the outside, you still know all about it. While you are sitting in > > > that blind room you know that outside to the left is the river and to > > > the right is the library and straight ahead is where the park is. You > > > not only know these things, you really almost feel them. YOU KNOW > > > WHERE YOU ARE. But it is really all thought.If you fell asleep and > > > somebody transported you to another town and put you in a room that > > > looked just like the one you fell asleep in, you would wake and be > > > absolutely sure that the river is over there and the library is over > > > there etc. Ego is like that town you " know " all about while you > are in > > > a closed room.It is exactly the same thing--all thought.How does it > > > feel to be a bunch of thoughts? > > > > > > > > > Is it your belief that the bunch of thoughts can grasp the vacuity of > > its situation? > > > > > > toombaru > > > is it your belief that a bunch of thoughts can actually clench the > > ability of saying something about the vacuity of thought's situation'? > > it appears that 'you' believe somehow that 'you' are above it all. > > oh...the vacuity! > > every time your balloon blows up. > > that's the situation. > > > .b b.b. > Is it your belief that you are able to determine the rational behind the thoughts of another? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > Ego is called a story most of the time but I like to think of it > as a > > > town. suppose you are in a room of your house or apt. Suppose > the > > > blinds are drawn or it is night.Even though you can't see > anything of > > > the outside, you still know all about it. While you are sitting > in > > > that blind room you know that outside to the left is the river > and to > > > the right is the library and straight ahead is where the park > is. You > > > not only know these things, you really almost feel them. YOU > KNOW > > > WHERE YOU ARE. But it is really all thought.If you fell asleep > and > > > somebody transported you to another town and put you in a room > that > > > looked just like the one you fell asleep in, you would wake and > be > > > absolutely sure that the river is over there and the library is > over > > > there etc. Ego is like that town you " know " all about while you > are in > > > a closed room.It is exactly the same thing--all thought.How does > it > > > feel to be a bunch of thoughts? > > > > > > > > > Is it your belief that the bunch of thoughts can grasp the vacuity > of > > its situation? > > > > > > toombaru > > > I don't think it can grasp anything. It seems to be a lot of > thoughts held together by an " I " feeling or magnetized by an 'I " > feeling. Maybe it has a lifespan and after several million > incarnations it starts to weaken and fall apart and it loses opacity > and can be seen through by the Seer.Can't prove it by me. > How is the one who says, " I don't think it can grasp anything. " related to the " I feeling " ? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Ego is called a story most of the time but I like to think of it > as a > > > > town. suppose you are in a room of your house or apt. Suppose the > > > > blinds are drawn or it is night.Even though you can't see > anything of > > > > the outside, you still know all about it. While you are sitting in > > > > that blind room you know that outside to the left is the river > and to > > > > the right is the library and straight ahead is where the park > is. You > > > > not only know these things, you really almost feel them. YOU KNOW > > > > WHERE YOU ARE. But it is really all thought.If you fell asleep and > > > > somebody transported you to another town and put you in a room that > > > > looked just like the one you fell asleep in, you would wake and be > > > > absolutely sure that the river is over there and the library is > over > > > > there etc. Ego is like that town you " know " all about while you > > are in > > > > a closed room.It is exactly the same thing--all thought.How does it > > > > feel to be a bunch of thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it your belief that the bunch of thoughts can grasp the vacuity of > > > its situation? > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > is it your belief that a bunch of thoughts can actually clench the > > > > ability of saying something about the vacuity of thought's situation'? > > > > it appears that 'you' believe somehow that 'you' are above it all. > > > > oh...the vacuity! > > > > every time your balloon blows up. > > > > that's the situation. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > Is it your belief that you are able to determine the rational behind > the thoughts of another? > > > toombaru 'i'... have no beliefs. do not believe dead little brown men from india. do not believe alive little white men in california. both sorts are deluded ghosts, swimming in nonexistent and irrelevant nonsense. anyway.... the One True way.. there are no 'others' nor 'another'. nor any silly self. as to the posting you answer in reference to: is it your belief that you are able to determine the rational behind the thoughts of another in a frivolous posting? oh...the vacuity! shame, shame.. wait... that's not the right finger movement in use here. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Ego is called a story most of the time but I like to think of it > > as a > > > > town. suppose you are in a room of your house or apt. Suppose > > the > > > > blinds are drawn or it is night.Even though you can't see > > anything of > > > > the outside, you still know all about it. While you are sitting > > in > > > > that blind room you know that outside to the left is the river > > and to > > > > the right is the library and straight ahead is where the park > > is. You > > > > not only know these things, you really almost feel them. YOU > > KNOW > > > > WHERE YOU ARE. But it is really all thought.If you fell asleep > > and > > > > somebody transported you to another town and put you in a room > > that > > > > looked just like the one you fell asleep in, you would wake and > > be > > > > absolutely sure that the river is over there and the library is > > over > > > > there etc. Ego is like that town you " know " all about while you > > are in > > > > a closed room.It is exactly the same thing--all thought.How does > > it > > > > feel to be a bunch of thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it your belief that the bunch of thoughts can grasp the vacuity > > of > > > its situation? > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > I don't think it can grasp anything. It seems to be a lot of > > thoughts held together by an " I " feeling or magnetized by an 'I " > > feeling. Maybe it has a lifespan and after several million > > incarnations it starts to weaken and fall apart and it loses opacity > > and can be seen through by the Seer.Can't prove it by me. > > > > > > How is the one who says, " I don't think it can grasp anything. " > related to the " I feeling " ? > > > toombaru with no 'things' there are no 'relationships'. that should be clear. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Ego is called a story most of the time but I like to think of it > > > as a > > > > > town. suppose you are in a room of your house or apt. Suppose > > > the > > > > > blinds are drawn or it is night.Even though you can't see > > > anything of > > > > > the outside, you still know all about it. While you are sitting > > > in > > > > > that blind room you know that outside to the left is the river > > > and to > > > > > the right is the library and straight ahead is where the park > > > is. You > > > > > not only know these things, you really almost feel them. YOU > > > KNOW > > > > > WHERE YOU ARE. But it is really all thought.If you fell asleep > > > and > > > > > somebody transported you to another town and put you in a room > > > that > > > > > looked just like the one you fell asleep in, you would wake and > > > be > > > > > absolutely sure that the river is over there and the library is > > > over > > > > > there etc. Ego is like that town you " know " all about while you > > > are in > > > > > a closed room.It is exactly the same thing--all thought.How does > > > it > > > > > feel to be a bunch of thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it your belief that the bunch of thoughts can grasp the vacuity > > > of > > > > its situation? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > I don't think it can grasp anything. It seems to be a lot of > > > thoughts held together by an " I " feeling or magnetized by an 'I " > > > feeling. Maybe it has a lifespan and after several million > > > incarnations it starts to weaken and fall apart and it loses opacity > > > and can be seen through by the Seer.Can't prove it by me. > > > > > > > > > > > How is the one who says, " I don't think it can grasp anything. " > > related to the " I feeling " ? > > > > > > toombaru > > > with no 'things' there are no 'relationships'. > > that should be clear. > > .b b.b. > To whom? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Ego is called a story most of the time but I like to think of it > > as a > > > > > town. suppose you are in a room of your house or apt. Suppose the > > > > > blinds are drawn or it is night.Even though you can't see > > anything of > > > > > the outside, you still know all about it. While you are > sitting in > > > > > that blind room you know that outside to the left is the river > > and to > > > > > the right is the library and straight ahead is where the park > > is. You > > > > > not only know these things, you really almost feel them. YOU KNOW > > > > > WHERE YOU ARE. But it is really all thought.If you fell asleep > and > > > > > somebody transported you to another town and put you in a room > that > > > > > looked just like the one you fell asleep in, you would wake > and be > > > > > absolutely sure that the river is over there and the library is > > over > > > > > there etc. Ego is like that town you " know " all about while you > > > are in > > > > > a closed room.It is exactly the same thing--all thought.How > does it > > > > > feel to be a bunch of thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it your belief that the bunch of thoughts can grasp the > vacuity of > > > > its situation? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > is it your belief that a bunch of thoughts can actually clench the > > > > > > ability of saying something about the vacuity of thought's situation'? > > > > > > it appears that 'you' believe somehow that 'you' are above it all. > > > > > > oh...the vacuity! > > > > > > every time your balloon blows up. > > > > > > that's the situation. > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > Is it your belief that you are able to determine the rational behind > > the thoughts of another? > > > > > > toombaru 'i'... > > have no beliefs. > > do not believe dead little brown men from india. > > do not believe alive little white men in california. > > both sorts are deluded ghosts, > > swimming in nonexistent and irrelevant nonsense. > > anyway.... > > the One True way.. > > there are no 'others' nor 'another'. > > nor any silly self. > > as to the posting you answer in reference to: > > is it your belief that you are able to determine the rational behind > > the thoughts of another in a frivolous posting? > > oh...the vacuity! > > shame, shame.. > > wait... > > that's not the right finger movement in use here. > > .b b.b. > Is that what you believe? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Ego is called a story most of the time but I like to think > of it > > > > as a > > > > > > town. suppose you are in a room of your house or apt. Suppose > > > > the > > > > > > blinds are drawn or it is night.Even though you can't see > > > > anything of > > > > > > the outside, you still know all about it. While you are sitting > > > > in > > > > > > that blind room you know that outside to the left is the river > > > > and to > > > > > > the right is the library and straight ahead is where the park > > > > is. You > > > > > > not only know these things, you really almost feel them. YOU > > > > KNOW > > > > > > WHERE YOU ARE. But it is really all thought.If you fell asleep > > > > and > > > > > > somebody transported you to another town and put you in a room > > > > that > > > > > > looked just like the one you fell asleep in, you would wake and > > > > be > > > > > > absolutely sure that the river is over there and the library is > > > > over > > > > > > there etc. Ego is like that town you " know " all about while you > > > > are in > > > > > > a closed room.It is exactly the same thing--all thought.How > does > > > > it > > > > > > feel to be a bunch of thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it your belief that the bunch of thoughts can grasp the > vacuity > > > > of > > > > > its situation? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > I don't think it can grasp anything. It seems to be a lot of > > > > thoughts held together by an " I " feeling or magnetized by an 'I " > > > > feeling. Maybe it has a lifespan and after several million > > > > incarnations it starts to weaken and fall apart and it loses > opacity > > > > and can be seen through by the Seer.Can't prove it by me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How is the one who says, " I don't think it can grasp anything. " > > > related to the " I feeling " ? > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > with no 'things' there are no 'relationships'. > > > > that should be clear. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > To whom? > > > toombaru 'you' are stuck at the idea of who and whom...self and other. clarity is clarity ONLY when there are no whoms or whos. of course 'you' can't see this. 'you' are not there. All IS one with the 'Clear'. Here there is no one. you will need to keep questioning until there are no questions left. until toombaru is not. until then...'you' think' and 'feel' that 'you' must be right. even the 'delusions' are delusionary for the wannabes. fear not phantom... even 'your' fear is vacuous. this too shall pass. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Ego is called a story most of the time but I like to think of it > > > as a > > > > > > town. suppose you are in a room of your house or apt. > Suppose the > > > > > > blinds are drawn or it is night.Even though you can't see > > > anything of > > > > > > the outside, you still know all about it. While you are > > sitting in > > > > > > that blind room you know that outside to the left is the river > > > and to > > > > > > the right is the library and straight ahead is where the park > > > is. You > > > > > > not only know these things, you really almost feel them. YOU > KNOW > > > > > > WHERE YOU ARE. But it is really all thought.If you fell asleep > > and > > > > > > somebody transported you to another town and put you in a room > > that > > > > > > looked just like the one you fell asleep in, you would wake > > and be > > > > > > absolutely sure that the river is over there and the library is > > > over > > > > > > there etc. Ego is like that town you " know " all about while you > > > > are in > > > > > > a closed room.It is exactly the same thing--all thought.How > > does it > > > > > > feel to be a bunch of thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it your belief that the bunch of thoughts can grasp the > > vacuity of > > > > > its situation? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > is it your belief that a bunch of thoughts can actually clench the > > > > > > > > ability of saying something about the vacuity of thought's > situation'? > > > > > > > > it appears that 'you' believe somehow that 'you' are above it all. > > > > > > > > oh...the vacuity! > > > > > > > > every time your balloon blows up. > > > > > > > > that's the situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it your belief that you are able to determine the rational behind > > > the thoughts of another? > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'i'... > > > > have no beliefs. > > > > do not believe dead little brown men from india. > > > > do not believe alive little white men in california. > > > > both sorts are deluded ghosts, > > > > swimming in nonexistent and irrelevant nonsense. > > > > anyway.... > > > > the One True way.. > > > > there are no 'others' nor 'another'. > > > > nor any silly self. > > > > as to the posting you answer in reference to: > > > > is it your belief that you are able to determine the rational behind > > > > the thoughts of another in a frivolous posting? > > > > oh...the vacuity! > > > > shame, shame.. > > > > wait... > > > > that's not the right finger movement in use here. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Is that what you believe? > > > > toombaru it seems to be that 'you' 'believe' that 'i' 'believe' in a 'what'... or a who. poor toomie. neither a who nor believer be. and what's a what anyway? borrowers and lenders..you know. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ego is called a story most of the time but I like to think > > of it > > > > > as a > > > > > > > town. suppose you are in a room of your house or apt. Suppose > > > > > the > > > > > > > blinds are drawn or it is night.Even though you can't see > > > > > anything of > > > > > > > the outside, you still know all about it. While you are > sitting > > > > > in > > > > > > > that blind room you know that outside to the left is the > river > > > > > and to > > > > > > > the right is the library and straight ahead is where the park > > > > > is. You > > > > > > > not only know these things, you really almost feel them. YOU > > > > > KNOW > > > > > > > WHERE YOU ARE. But it is really all thought.If you fell > asleep > > > > > and > > > > > > > somebody transported you to another town and put you in a > room > > > > > that > > > > > > > looked just like the one you fell asleep in, you would > wake and > > > > > be > > > > > > > absolutely sure that the river is over there and the > library is > > > > > over > > > > > > > there etc. Ego is like that town you " know " all about > while you > > > > > are in > > > > > > > a closed room.It is exactly the same thing--all thought.How > > does > > > > > it > > > > > > > feel to be a bunch of thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it your belief that the bunch of thoughts can grasp the > > vacuity > > > > > of > > > > > > its situation? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think it can grasp anything. It seems to be a lot of > > > > > thoughts held together by an " I " feeling or magnetized by an 'I " > > > > > feeling. Maybe it has a lifespan and after several million > > > > > incarnations it starts to weaken and fall apart and it loses > > opacity > > > > > and can be seen through by the Seer.Can't prove it by me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How is the one who says, " I don't think it can grasp anything. " > > > > related to the " I feeling " ? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > with no 'things' there are no 'relationships'. > > > > > > that should be clear. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > To whom? > > > > > > toombaru > > > 'you' are stuck at the idea of who and whom...self and other. > > clarity is clarity ONLY when there are no whoms or whos. > > of course 'you' can't see this. > > 'you' are not there. > > All IS one with the 'Clear'. > > Here there is no one. > > > you will need to keep questioning until there are no questions left. > > until toombaru is not. > > until then...'you' think' and 'feel' that 'you' must be right. > > even the 'delusions' are delusionary for the wannabes. > > fear not phantom... > > even 'your' fear is vacuous. > > this too shall pass. > > .b b.b. > Bobby...........who are you talking to? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ego is called a story most of the time but I like to think > > > of it > > > > > > as a > > > > > > > > town. suppose you are in a room of your house or apt. > Suppose > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > blinds are drawn or it is night.Even though you can't see > > > > > > anything of > > > > > > > > the outside, you still know all about it. While you are > > sitting > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > that blind room you know that outside to the left is the > > river > > > > > > and to > > > > > > > > the right is the library and straight ahead is where the > park > > > > > > is. You > > > > > > > > not only know these things, you really almost feel them. > YOU > > > > > > KNOW > > > > > > > > WHERE YOU ARE. But it is really all thought.If you fell > > asleep > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > somebody transported you to another town and put you in a > > room > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > looked just like the one you fell asleep in, you would > > wake and > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > absolutely sure that the river is over there and the > > library is > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > there etc. Ego is like that town you " know " all about > > while you > > > > > > are in > > > > > > > > a closed room.It is exactly the same thing--all thought.How > > > does > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > feel to be a bunch of thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it your belief that the bunch of thoughts can grasp the > > > vacuity > > > > > > of > > > > > > > its situation? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think it can grasp anything. It seems to be a lot of > > > > > > thoughts held together by an " I " feeling or magnetized by an > 'I " > > > > > > feeling. Maybe it has a lifespan and after several million > > > > > > incarnations it starts to weaken and fall apart and it loses > > > opacity > > > > > > and can be seen through by the Seer.Can't prove it by me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How is the one who says, " I don't think it can grasp anything. " > > > > > related to the " I feeling " ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > with no 'things' there are no 'relationships'. > > > > > > > > that should be clear. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whom? > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > 'you' are stuck at the idea of who and whom...self and other. > > > > clarity is clarity ONLY when there are no whoms or whos. > > > > of course 'you' can't see this. > > > > 'you' are not there. > > > > All IS one with the 'Clear'. > > > > Here there is no one. > > > > > > you will need to keep questioning until there are no questions left. > > > > until toombaru is not. > > > > until then...'you' think' and 'feel' that 'you' must be right. > > > > even the 'delusions' are delusionary for the wannabes. > > > > fear not phantom... > > > > even 'your' fear is vacuous. > > > > this too shall pass. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > Bobby...........who are you talking to? > > > toombaru who's asking? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ego is called a story most of the time but I like to think > of it > > > > as a > > > > > > > town. suppose you are in a room of your house or apt. > > Suppose the > > > > > > > blinds are drawn or it is night.Even though you can't see > > > > anything of > > > > > > > the outside, you still know all about it. While you are > > > sitting in > > > > > > > that blind room you know that outside to the left is the river > > > > and to > > > > > > > the right is the library and straight ahead is where the park > > > > is. You > > > > > > > not only know these things, you really almost feel them. YOU > > KNOW > > > > > > > WHERE YOU ARE. But it is really all thought.If you fell asleep > > > and > > > > > > > somebody transported you to another town and put you in a room > > > that > > > > > > > looked just like the one you fell asleep in, you would wake > > > and be > > > > > > > absolutely sure that the river is over there and the > library is > > > > over > > > > > > > there etc. Ego is like that town you " know " all about > while you > > > > > are in > > > > > > > a closed room.It is exactly the same thing--all thought.How > > > does it > > > > > > > feel to be a bunch of thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it your belief that the bunch of thoughts can grasp the > > > vacuity of > > > > > > its situation? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is it your belief that a bunch of thoughts can actually clench > the > > > > > > > > > > ability of saying something about the vacuity of thought's > > situation'? > > > > > > > > > > it appears that 'you' believe somehow that 'you' are above it all. > > > > > > > > > > oh...the vacuity! > > > > > > > > > > every time your balloon blows up. > > > > > > > > > > that's the situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it your belief that you are able to determine the rational behind > > > > the thoughts of another? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'i'... > > > > > > have no beliefs. > > > > > > do not believe dead little brown men from india. > > > > > > do not believe alive little white men in california. > > > > > > both sorts are deluded ghosts, > > > > > > swimming in nonexistent and irrelevant nonsense. > > > > > > anyway.... > > > > > > the One True way.. > > > > > > there are no 'others' nor 'another'. > > > > > > nor any silly self. > > > > > > as to the posting you answer in reference to: > > > > > > is it your belief that you are able to determine the rational behind > > > > > > the thoughts of another in a frivolous posting? > > > > > > oh...the vacuity! > > > > > > shame, shame.. > > > > > > wait... > > > > > > that's not the right finger movement in use here. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > Is that what you believe? > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > it seems to be that 'you' 'believe' that 'i' 'believe' in a 'what'... > > or a who. > > poor toomie. > > neither a who nor believer be. > > and what's a what anyway? > > borrowers and lenders..you know. > > > .b b.b. > Who do you think I am? Why do you respond to the inane effluent that bubbles up from the Central Coast of California? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ego is called a story most of the time but I like to think > > of it > > > > > as a > > > > > > > > town. suppose you are in a room of your house or apt. > > > Suppose the > > > > > > > > blinds are drawn or it is night.Even though you can't see > > > > > anything of > > > > > > > > the outside, you still know all about it. While you are > > > > sitting in > > > > > > > > that blind room you know that outside to the left is the > river > > > > > and to > > > > > > > > the right is the library and straight ahead is where the > park > > > > > is. You > > > > > > > > not only know these things, you really almost feel them. YOU > > > KNOW > > > > > > > > WHERE YOU ARE. But it is really all thought.If you fell > asleep > > > > and > > > > > > > > somebody transported you to another town and put you in > a room > > > > that > > > > > > > > looked just like the one you fell asleep in, you would wake > > > > and be > > > > > > > > absolutely sure that the river is over there and the > > library is > > > > > over > > > > > > > > there etc. Ego is like that town you " know " all about > > while you > > > > > > are in > > > > > > > > a closed room.It is exactly the same thing--all thought.How > > > > does it > > > > > > > > feel to be a bunch of thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it your belief that the bunch of thoughts can grasp the > > > > vacuity of > > > > > > > its situation? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is it your belief that a bunch of thoughts can actually clench > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > ability of saying something about the vacuity of thought's > > > situation'? > > > > > > > > > > > > it appears that 'you' believe somehow that 'you' are above > it all. > > > > > > > > > > > > oh...the vacuity! > > > > > > > > > > > > every time your balloon blows up. > > > > > > > > > > > > that's the situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it your belief that you are able to determine the rational > behind > > > > > the thoughts of another? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'i'... > > > > > > > > have no beliefs. > > > > > > > > do not believe dead little brown men from india. > > > > > > > > do not believe alive little white men in california. > > > > > > > > both sorts are deluded ghosts, > > > > > > > > swimming in nonexistent and irrelevant nonsense. > > > > > > > > anyway.... > > > > > > > > the One True way.. > > > > > > > > there are no 'others' nor 'another'. > > > > > > > > nor any silly self. > > > > > > > > as to the posting you answer in reference to: > > > > > > > > is it your belief that you are able to determine the rational behind > > > > > > > > the thoughts of another in a frivolous posting? > > > > > > > > oh...the vacuity! > > > > > > > > shame, shame.. > > > > > > > > wait... > > > > > > > > that's not the right finger movement in use here. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is that what you believe? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > it seems to be that 'you' 'believe' that 'i' 'believe' in a 'what'... > > > > or a who. > > > > poor toomie. > > > > neither a who nor believer be. > > > > and what's a what anyway? > > > > borrowers and lenders..you know. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > Who do you think I am? > > Why do you respond to the inane effluent that bubbles up from the > Central Coast of California? > > > > toombaru how egotistical IS your phony 'self'? i referred to all the new age bullshit.. satsang giving dudes (and dudettes) out in the California. why did 'you' take this personally? 'you' seem stuck with this 'me' thing of 'yours'. 'you' will grow beyond this. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ego is called a story most of the time but I like to think > > > of it > > > > > > as a > > > > > > > > > town. suppose you are in a room of your house or apt. > > > > Suppose the > > > > > > > > > blinds are drawn or it is night.Even though you can't see > > > > > > anything of > > > > > > > > > the outside, you still know all about it. While you are > > > > > sitting in > > > > > > > > > that blind room you know that outside to the left is the > > river > > > > > > and to > > > > > > > > > the right is the library and straight ahead is where the > > park > > > > > > is. You > > > > > > > > > not only know these things, you really almost feel > them. YOU > > > > KNOW > > > > > > > > > WHERE YOU ARE. But it is really all thought.If you fell > > asleep > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > somebody transported you to another town and put you in > > a room > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > looked just like the one you fell asleep in, you would > wake > > > > > and be > > > > > > > > > absolutely sure that the river is over there and the > > > library is > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > > there etc. Ego is like that town you " know " all about > > > while you > > > > > > > are in > > > > > > > > > a closed room.It is exactly the same thing--all > thought.How > > > > > does it > > > > > > > > > feel to be a bunch of thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it your belief that the bunch of thoughts can grasp the > > > > > vacuity of > > > > > > > > its situation? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is it your belief that a bunch of thoughts can actually clench > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ability of saying something about the vacuity of thought's > > > > situation'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it appears that 'you' believe somehow that 'you' are above > > it all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh...the vacuity! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > every time your balloon blows up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's the situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it your belief that you are able to determine the rational > > behind > > > > > > the thoughts of another? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'i'... > > > > > > > > > > have no beliefs. > > > > > > > > > > do not believe dead little brown men from india. > > > > > > > > > > do not believe alive little white men in california. > > > > > > > > > > both sorts are deluded ghosts, > > > > > > > > > > swimming in nonexistent and irrelevant nonsense. > > > > > > > > > > anyway.... > > > > > > > > > > the One True way.. > > > > > > > > > > there are no 'others' nor 'another'. > > > > > > > > > > nor any silly self. > > > > > > > > > > as to the posting you answer in reference to: > > > > > > > > > > is it your belief that you are able to determine the rational > behind > > > > > > > > > > the thoughts of another in a frivolous posting? > > > > > > > > > > oh...the vacuity! > > > > > > > > > > shame, shame.. > > > > > > > > > > wait... > > > > > > > > > > that's not the right finger movement in use here. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is that what you believe? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > it seems to be that 'you' 'believe' that 'i' 'believe' in a 'what'... > > > > > > or a who. > > > > > > poor toomie. > > > > > > neither a who nor believer be. > > > > > > and what's a what anyway? > > > > > > borrowers and lenders..you know. > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who do you think I am? > > > > Why do you respond to the inane effluent that bubbles up from the > > Central Coast of California? > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > how egotistical IS your phony 'self'? > > i referred to all the new age bullshit.. satsang giving dudes (and > > dudettes) out in the California. > > why did 'you' take this personally? > > 'you' seem stuck with this 'me' thing of 'yours'. > > 'you' will grow beyond this. > > > .b b.b. > No one can grow beyond their self. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ego is called a story most of the time but I like to > think > > > > of it > > > > > > > as a > > > > > > > > > > town. suppose you are in a room of your house or apt. > > > > > Suppose the > > > > > > > > > > blinds are drawn or it is night.Even though you > can't see > > > > > > > anything of > > > > > > > > > > the outside, you still know all about it. While you are > > > > > > sitting in > > > > > > > > > > that blind room you know that outside to the left is the > > > river > > > > > > > and to > > > > > > > > > > the right is the library and straight ahead is where the > > > park > > > > > > > is. You > > > > > > > > > > not only know these things, you really almost feel > > them. YOU > > > > > KNOW > > > > > > > > > > WHERE YOU ARE. But it is really all thought.If you fell > > > asleep > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > somebody transported you to another town and put you in > > > a room > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > looked just like the one you fell asleep in, you would > > wake > > > > > > and be > > > > > > > > > > absolutely sure that the river is over there and the > > > > library is > > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > > > there etc. Ego is like that town you " know " all about > > > > while you > > > > > > > > are in > > > > > > > > > > a closed room.It is exactly the same thing--all > > thought.How > > > > > > does it > > > > > > > > > > feel to be a bunch of thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it your belief that the bunch of thoughts can grasp the > > > > > > vacuity of > > > > > > > > > its situation? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is it your belief that a bunch of thoughts can actually > clench > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ability of saying something about the vacuity of thought's > > > > > situation'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it appears that 'you' believe somehow that 'you' are above > > > it all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh...the vacuity! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > every time your balloon blows up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's the situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it your belief that you are able to determine the rational > > > behind > > > > > > > the thoughts of another? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'i'... > > > > > > > > > > > > have no beliefs. > > > > > > > > > > > > do not believe dead little brown men from india. > > > > > > > > > > > > do not believe alive little white men in california. > > > > > > > > > > > > both sorts are deluded ghosts, > > > > > > > > > > > > swimming in nonexistent and irrelevant nonsense. > > > > > > > > > > > > anyway.... > > > > > > > > > > > > the One True way.. > > > > > > > > > > > > there are no 'others' nor 'another'. > > > > > > > > > > > > nor any silly self. > > > > > > > > > > > > as to the posting you answer in reference to: > > > > > > > > > > > > is it your belief that you are able to determine the rational > > behind > > > > > > > > > > > > the thoughts of another in a frivolous posting? > > > > > > > > > > > > oh...the vacuity! > > > > > > > > > > > > shame, shame.. > > > > > > > > > > > > wait... > > > > > > > > > > > > that's not the right finger movement in use here. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is that what you believe? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > it seems to be that 'you' 'believe' that 'i' 'believe' in a > 'what'... > > > > > > > > or a who. > > > > > > > > poor toomie. > > > > > > > > neither a who nor believer be. > > > > > > > > and what's a what anyway? > > > > > > > > borrowers and lenders..you know. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who do you think I am? > > > > > > Why do you respond to the inane effluent that bubbles up from the > > > Central Coast of California? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > how egotistical IS your phony 'self'? > > > > i referred to all the new age bullshit.. satsang giving dudes (and > > > > dudettes) out in the California. > > > > why did 'you' take this personally? > > > > 'you' seem stuck with this 'me' thing of 'yours'. > > > > 'you' will grow beyond this. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > No one can grow beyond their self. > > > toombaru there is no such thing as 'self'. the fallacy is to believe that 'you' refers to a 'self'. it does not. but it's that 'ego' thing of 'yours' that cannot see this. we would take measures from this point to be careful to not disturb 'your' delusions. they seem to 'become' that 'you' that seems so in need of 'your' defenses. there there now..it's ok if you are more comfortable with ignorance. many are. ..b b.b. 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Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 > > > > No one can grow beyond their self. > > > > > > toombaru > > > there is no such thing as 'self'. > > the fallacy is to believe that 'you' refers to a 'self'. > > it does not. > > but it's that 'ego' thing of 'yours' that cannot see this. > > we would take measures from this point to be careful to not disturb > > 'your' delusions. > > they seem to 'become' that 'you' that seems so in need of 'your' > > defenses. > > there there now..it's ok if you are more comfortable with ignorance. > > many are. > > .b b.b. > And some are not? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > > > No one can grow beyond their self. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > there is no such thing as 'self'. > > > > the fallacy is to believe that 'you' refers to a 'self'. > > > > it does not. > > > > but it's that 'ego' thing of 'yours' that cannot see this. > > > > we would take measures from this point to be careful to not disturb > > > > 'your' delusions. > > > > they seem to 'become' that 'you' that seems so in need of 'your' > > > > defenses. > > > > there there now..it's ok if you are more comfortable with ignorance. > > > > many are. > > > > .b b.b. > > > There is something within the sense of self that is different than the ignorance? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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