Guest guest Report post Posted July 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " > <mstrdmmlbrn@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " > <kailashana@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > <dan330033@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " > > > <kailashana@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THE original attitude of the American Indian > toward > > > the > > > > > > Eternal, > > > > > > > > > > the " Great Mystery " that surrounds and embraces > us, > > > was > > > > as > > > > > > > > simple as > > > > > > > > > > it was exalted. To him it was the supreme > conception, > > > > > > bringing > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > it the fullest measure of joy and satisfaction > > > possible > > > > in > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No matter how refined the perception of > the 'Supreme' > > > > > > is.....it is > > > > > > > > > merly more of the same ole me and God duality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That may be true on one level, Toomie, but the native > > > peoples > > > > > > did > > > > > > > > not live at odds with their environment, the most > > > > elementental > > > > > > > > beginning of duality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I/we live my/our life(s) here in this space called > earth. > > > > Most > > > > > > folks > > > > > > > > never consider it, let alone pay hommage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And most of us never experience the joy of nature, or > its > > > > > > inherent > > > > > > > > Silence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most elemental beginning of duality is when you > first > > > > > believed > > > > > > you > > > > > > > had encountered something outside of yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When you experienced (nonverbally) a situation in which > > > there > > > > > > could be > > > > > > > a threat to someone and someone to be threatened. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is formed from and as the basic nonverbal survival > > > > program - > > > > > - > > > > > > > which " later on " leads to words being believed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When you believed a word must signify something > existing, > > > there > > > > > was > > > > > > > duality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When you " later " came to believe there were those who > lived > > > in > > > > > > harmony > > > > > > > with the earth, and those who didn't, there was an > > > additional > > > > > > duality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And if you came to believe there is duality, and then > there > > > is > > > > > > > nonduality -- that belief certainly constitutes a > duality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, to resolve dualities is not to find a nonduality > that > > is > > > > > > outside > > > > > > > of duality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is to re-cognize the nondual in and as the dualities. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And it is to " undermine " the basis for taking the > survival > > > > > program > > > > > > as > > > > > > > a bedrock establishment of what reality is -- on a > > nonverbal > > > > > basis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Great Dan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How did/does it appear to you when you make/made this > > > recognition? > > > > > > It is not a one-time occurrence. Everything that arises > in > > > > > > consciousness 24/7 is some sort of recognition, some of it > > > being > > > > > > logical and necessary for healthy 'survival of the ego- > > > mechanism', > > > > > > and some of it the mattering off matters that are self- > > > promoting > > > > > at > > > > > > the expense of our " natural " nature. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have spoken of it since day one. For me recognition was > in > > > the > > > > > > here-to-fore appearances of dualities. And balancing them > in > > > the > > > > > > mind of " Anna " where only the heart of One appears, so to > > > speak. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lst: consciousness assumes its separateness in the act of > > > being > > > > > > alive as an individual > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd: consciousness lives in separateness in the nature of > > > being > > > > > > separated in/as/of the fabric of our lives: in our > > > > > surroundsings: > > > > > > being the following: > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd: In our surroundings, having made the separation > between > > > > this > > > > > > and that, we fall into our bodies that give credibility to > > > > > > certain 'patterns' that are promoted as sexual orientation. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4th: In our bodies of man or woman, we give weight to the > > > minor, > > > > > or > > > > > > major issues inherent with being alive in our physical > > bodies, > > > > > > monthly cycles, issues of power and strength, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > 5th: In our bodies we buy into thought patterns handed > down > > > by > > > > > > society religion and parental influence as to how these > > bodies > > > > > > should act, behave, think and be. Sexually or otherwise. > > > > > Habitual > > > > > > thinking. > > > > > > > > > > > > 6th: In buying into these thought patterns, everyone at > > > > different > > > > > > times in different ways tries to escape being 'type- > cast'. > > > How > > > > > this > > > > > > evolves is the evolution of each human being. Refined > > > thinking. > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th: In the evolution of each human being--the > individual, > > > the > > > > > > intense fire of desire to unite appears as all types of > > > worldly > > > > or > > > > > > indivual events. The play of Life. Lila. > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th: In the conscious participation in the play of life, > the > > > One > > > > > > decides to play For All. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have to go now, > > > > > > later, > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its a hard day's work, maintaining all those forums on the > net, > > > > > isn't it? > > > > > > > > > > > > must be a killer job reading " all those forums " too...long, > full, > > > > laborious work keeping d, posted, and up to date eh > > > > Spartacus. > > > > > > > > .......bob > > > > > > > > > > Did you really think...? > > > > > > Mel is the name, Bob. > > > > > > I like that name Mel......I like it even better that you can have > fun > > with a joke........have you noticed some participants can't seem > to > > even get the idea one has been given, let alone 'getting' the > joke? > > oh well...such is hell for the cool....even eden could be east of > > elsewhere. > > > > ;-) > > > > .......bob > > I have observed this list from the fence for a bit and noticed and > followed quite a few of the regulars, especially the Guru's and the > Hamlet's, but also the sincere students. > Can only conclude; Its an awesome comedy. In every hamlet there lives a guru, who draws several sincere students.....all thinking they know, or can learn, or are following a 'Way " . To where and to what and for which they know not... for they are lost in their thoughts of what they believe is 'TRUE " ......it's an awesome thing dude! and FUNNNNNNY! I get a BANG out of it anyway...a BIG BANG.......and it's happenin' all the time for as long as there is " Time " ........lose that confine and the constraints of Solemnity, and the SMILE grows ever bigger and the DELIGHT knows no end.......or beginning. ;-) .............bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
