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--- iietsa <iietsa a écrit :

 

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

> <dan330033

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds "

> <skywords@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >I only want to know how you yourself are

> feeling. Please do

> not

> > > talk to me about no-self, nor about abstract

> situations. So

> that I

> > > may feel your love and offer mine in return.

> > >

> > > I am no longer interested in the semantics of

> being an island.

> If you

> > > suffer, open the door to love in love. If you

> do not suffer, why

> > > list, why anything?

> > >

> > > Listing, being, is suffering, anyone who denies

> this is

> suffering too

> > > much to admit it.

> > >

> > > Love is beautiful suffering in hope of healing

> transformation

> though

> > > another, is it not?

> > >

> > > No one is beyond hope, beauty, transformation,

> the longing for

> another

> > > to love and be loved.

> > >

> > > ~*~

> >

> > People talk about their concern to end suffering,

> theirs or someone

> > else's.

> >

> > That very attempt to end suffering, or to have a

> solution for

> > suffering, it itself a form of suffering. And of

> course, it's a

> form

> > of suffering that has been *very* good for

> organized religions.

> >

> > Suffering isn't problematic, in and of itself, as

> it is.

> >

> > What gets problematic is the attaching to

> suffering, or conceiving

> of

> > an opposite state that one wants to attach to, or

> conceiving

> suffering

> > as something needing to be got rid of. Often, the

> conceiving it as

> > something better to be got rid of, and the

> attaching to it, are the

> > same process.

> >

> > There's where the excessive friction comes in.

> >

> > If one is suffering, one can suffer honestly and

> nonproblematically,

> > although generally people complicate it and make

> it worse than it

> is.

> > If one isn't suffering, then no need to try to

> manufacture it.

> How

> > it is, it is. If someone else is there and a

> loving connection is,

> > then it is. If a bond is broken, then it is time

> for a bond to

> break.

> > Nothing to attach to, in either situation.

> >

> > There's no need to look for a remedy, or to hold a

> person or some

> kind

> > of state of being in love as a solution.

> >

> > Love isn't a remedy for suffering.

> >

> > Love is able to embody suffering without trying to

> move away to

> some

> > other state of being, without requiring a

> transformation of itself

> > into something else.

> >

> > To think someone else will be the answer for one's

> suffering, often

> > tends to compound one's suffering.

> >

> > -- Dan

> >

> :)

> love is welcoming what comes...

> without even empasizing what comes...

> loves very nature is loving...

> and loving dont judge what comes...

>

> ...iietsa

 

that meth head neighbor of mine approached me

yesterday, his eyes so shiny and fixed, on i don`t

know what,

i just pick up those bananas i was lovingly looking

at and ran.

 

didn`t feel to welcoming,

no time for judjing either.

Should i have stayed and wait for whatever was coming

with

trust that love solves everything??

don`t think so.

 

Patricia

 

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