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Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Why ask why? There is no one to be awakened or to be

> > > liberated.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > fuzzie

> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > up with the attitude?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > fuzzie

> > > > >

> > > > > devi: no, but i have been reading I Am That for about two

> years

> > > on and

> > > > > off for pleasure....and he does not say there is no one to

> be

> > > awakened

> > > > > or to be liberated.....he encourages people to realize.....

> > > > >

> > > > > he says he realized.....when he was 38.....

> > > > >

> > > > > my guru wrote a commentary on patanjilies yoga sutras thats

> all

> > > about

> > > > > how to get realized...

> > > > >

> > > > > who is he writing to?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > i could point to some many teachings that say exactly the

> > > opposite of

> > > > > what your saying...

> > > > >

> > > > > so, whats up with telling people that there is no one to be

> > > awakened

> > > > > or liberated....

> > > > >

> > > > > obviously thats your experience and it sound nice but

> > > > >

> > > > > realization....is a fact

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Then, realize it and cut loose the " holier than thou "

> bullshit.

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > I don't care how many books you've read. Anybody can read

> books

> > and

> > > > parrot back what others have thought. All religious fanatics

> do

> > > that,

> > > > whether Hindu, Muslim, Christian or whatever. They all

> disagree

> > > with

> > > > each other because they all point to their own respective

> texts

> > and

> > > > then start putting the other down and go to war and all that

> > > insanity.

> > > >

> > > > Put your holy books and teachings and your other crutches

down

> and

> > > > find out for yourself. Don't feed on the dregs of other

> people's

> > > > thoughts. Realize for yourself. Stand alone. Realization is

> > > realizing

> > > > there's no you to realize anything.

> > > >

> > > > " In Reality there is neither guru nor disciple, neither

theory

> nor

> > > > practice, neither ignorance nor realization. "

> > > >

> > > > ~ Sri Nisragadatta Maharaj

> > > >

> > > > fuzzie

> > >

> > > devi: your not to bright for someone who is enlightened

> >

> > only a bigger fool calls a lessor fool stupid

> >

> > -- Buddha

>

> good thing i'm not a fool, fool

 

finally you got it right. beyond your wildest dreams I am the biggest

fool ... so big that only a an even bigger fool could realize just

how big a fool I REALLY AM.

 

this fool I AM and your not

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Nisargadatta , " Gene Polotas " <semmin@e...>

wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...>

> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Why ask why? There is no one to be awakened or to

be

> > > > liberated.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > fuzzie

> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > up with the attitude?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > fuzzie

> > > > > >

> > > > > > devi: no, but i have been reading I Am That for about

two

> > years

> > > > on and

> > > > > > off for pleasure....and he does not say there is no one

to

> > be

> > > > awakened

> > > > > > or to be liberated.....he encourages people to

realize.....

> > > > > >

> > > > > > he says he realized.....when he was 38.....

> > > > > >

> > > > > > my guru wrote a commentary on patanjilies yoga sutras

thats

> > all

> > > > about

> > > > > > how to get realized...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > who is he writing to?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i could point to some many teachings that say exactly

the

> > > > opposite of

> > > > > > what your saying...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > so, whats up with telling people that there is no one to

be

> > > > awakened

> > > > > > or liberated....

> > > > > >

> > > > > > obviously thats your experience and it sound nice but

> > > > > >

> > > > > > realization....is a fact

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Then, realize it and cut loose the " holier than thou "

> > bullshit.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't care how many books you've read. Anybody can read

> > books

> > > and

> > > > > parrot back what others have thought. All religious

fanatics

> > do

> > > > that,

> > > > > whether Hindu, Muslim, Christian or whatever. They all

> > disagree

> > > > with

> > > > > each other because they all point to their own respective

> > texts

> > > and

> > > > > then start putting the other down and go to war and all

that

> > > > insanity.

> > > > >

> > > > > Put your holy books and teachings and your other crutches

> down

> > and

> > > > > find out for yourself. Don't feed on the dregs of other

> > people's

> > > > > thoughts. Realize for yourself. Stand alone. Realization

is

> > > > realizing

> > > > > there's no you to realize anything.

> > > > >

> > > > > " In Reality there is neither guru nor disciple, neither

> theory

> > nor

> > > > > practice, neither ignorance nor realization. "

> > > > >

> > > > > ~ Sri Nisragadatta Maharaj

> > > > >

> > > > > fuzzie

> > > >

> > > > devi: your not to bright for someone who is enlightened

> > >

> > > only a bigger fool calls a lessor fool stupid

> > >

> > > -- Buddha

> >

> > good thing i'm not a fool, fool

>

> finally you got it right. beyond your wildest dreams I am the

biggest

> fool ... so big that only a an even bigger fool could realize

just

> how big a fool I REALLY AM.

>

> this fool I AM and your not

 

devi: great....as i was saying...you're not to bright

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