Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Sorrry Mistake in spell... What is the Ocean ??? What is the Waves ??? They say that Blue colored thing is Ocean. They say this White colored one is a Wave. All in all It is only Water. Nisargadatta [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of Ramanath, Murali H (GE Healthcare) Friday, May 06, 2005 11:28 AM Nisargadatta RE: Ocean What is the Ocean ??? What is the Waves ??? They say that is Blus colred thing is Ocean. They say this White colored one is a Wave. All in all It is only Water. ......m Nisargadatta [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of toombaru2004 Thursday, May 05, 2005 9:11 PM Nisargadatta Ocean Ocean can never see the waves. toombaru ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. _____ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Water evaporates..................worlds collide................stars are born and die................in a blink of an eye. The blue-color of an Ocean is merely a reflection of the sky.... a. - Ramanath, Murali H (GE Healthcare) Nisargadatta Friday, May 06, 2005 2:17 AM RE: Ocean Sorrry Mistake in spell... What is the Ocean ??? What is the Waves ??? They say that Blue colored thing is Ocean. They say this White colored one is a Wave. All in all It is only Water. Nisargadatta [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of Ramanath, Murali H (GE Healthcare) Friday, May 06, 2005 11:28 AM Nisargadatta RE: Ocean What is the Ocean ??? What is the Waves ??? They say that is Blus colred thing is Ocean. They say this White colored one is a Wave. All in all It is only Water. .....m Nisargadatta [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of toombaru2004 Thursday, May 05, 2005 9:11 PM Nisargadatta Ocean Ocean can never see the waves. toombaru ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. _____ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > What is the Ocean ??? > What is the Waves ??? > They say that Blue colored thing is Ocean. > They say this White colored one is a Wave. > All in all It is only Water.>> Yes, there's only Water. And not even That. BabaG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > What is the Ocean ??? > > What is the Waves ??? > > They say that Blue colored thing is Ocean. > > They say this White colored one is a Wave. > > All in all It is only Water.>> > > Yes, there's only Water. And not even That. > > BabaG maybe Consciousness only...? Marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Nisargadatta [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of dennis_travis33 Friday, May 06, 2005 3:12 PM Nisargadatta Re: Ocean Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > What is the Ocean ??? > > What is the Waves ??? > > They say that Blue colored thing is Ocean. > > They say this White colored one is a Wave. > > All in all It is only Water.>> > > Yes, there's only Water. And not even That. > > BabaG maybe Consciousness only...? Marc >>>>Yes, The cool silent still water of consciousnesss in which this universe is a mere reflection. ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. _____ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of dennis_travis33 > Friday, May 06, 2005 3:12 PM > Nisargadatta > Re: Ocean > > > > Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > What is the Ocean ??? > > > What is the Waves ??? > > > They say that Blue colored thing is Ocean. > > > They say this White colored one is a Wave. > > > All in all It is only Water.>> > > > > Yes, there's only Water. And not even That. > > > > BabaG > > maybe Consciousness only...? > > Marc > >>>>Yes, The cool silent still water of consciousnesss in which this universe is a mere reflection. > > ......the universe as a reflection of the cool silent still water...... and the cool silent still water as a reflection of the universe..... .....in a wonderful emptyness of infinite being > > > ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > _____ > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Nonsense ! There is no consciousness in which anything gets reflected. Consciousness is its content. The noise and turmoil of the world is the noise and turmoil made conscious. You can seek til doom's day those lovely cool and still water of consciousness if you don't end up already beforehand in an asylum. Werner Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of dennis_travis33 > Friday, May 06, 2005 3:12 PM > Nisargadatta > Re: Ocean > > > > Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > What is the Ocean ??? > > > What is the Waves ??? > > > They say that Blue colored thing is Ocean. > > > They say this White colored one is a Wave. > > > All in all It is only Water.>> > > > > Yes, there's only Water. And not even That. > > > > BabaG > > maybe Consciousness only...? > > Marc > >>>>Yes, The cool silent still water of consciousnesss in which this universe is a mere reflection. > > > > > ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > _____ > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Non Sense -- That is the ultimate state When u stop perceiving things through ur senses & mind. Non Sense ---->> No senses - No Mind. Nisargadatta [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of Werner Woehr Friday, May 06, 2005 4:19 PM Nisargadatta Re: Ocean Nonsense ! There is no consciousness in which anything gets reflected. Consciousness is its content. The noise and turmoil of the world is the noise and turmoil made conscious. You can seek til doom's day those lovely cool and still water of consciousness if you don't end up already beforehand in an asylum. Werner Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of dennis_travis33 > Friday, May 06, 2005 3:12 PM > Nisargadatta > Re: Ocean > > > > Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > What is the Ocean ??? > > > What is the Waves ??? > > > They say that Blue colored thing is Ocean. > > > They say this White colored one is a Wave. > > > All in all It is only Water.>> > > > > Yes, there's only Water. And not even That. > > > > BabaG > > maybe Consciousness only...? > > Marc > >>>>Yes, The cool silent still water of consciousnesss in which this universe is a mere reflection. > > > > > ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > _____ > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Namaste, maybe Consciousness is the screen on which everything is " seen " ...and percieved...... the screen itself is untouched by the " mind-movie " ... i think this screen is worth to have..... ....without screen.....no movie Marc Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > Nonsense ! > > There is no consciousness in which anything gets reflected. > Consciousness is its content. The noise and turmoil of the world is > the noise and turmoil made conscious. > > You can seek til doom's day those lovely cool and still water of > consciousness if you don't end up already beforehand in an asylum. > > Werner > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of dennis_travis33 > > Friday, May 06, 2005 3:12 PM > > Nisargadatta > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...> > wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > What is the Ocean ??? > > > > What is the Waves ??? > > > > They say that Blue colored thing is Ocean. > > > > They say this White colored one is a Wave. > > > > All in all It is only Water.>> > > > > > > Yes, there's only Water. And not even That. > > > > > > BabaG > > > > maybe Consciousness only...? > > > > Marc > > >>>>Yes, The cool silent still water of consciousnesss in which > this universe is a mere reflection. > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your > subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the > Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Namasthe, You can directly jump into the ocean ! Who can jump directly into this ocean ?? Are you ready to jump naked removing all masks ?? Else you say i need tubes in the form of beliefs or gurus or religions (which can burst any time )to make me float ... Are you ready to swim without fear for there is absolutely no thirst hear - In the Absolute Ocean. Are you ready to be a NON sense person ??? murali Nisargadatta [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of dennis_travis33 Friday, May 06, 2005 4:45 PM Nisargadatta Re: Ocean Namaste, maybe Consciousness is the screen on which everything is " seen " ...and percieved...... the screen itself is untouched by the " mind-movie " ... i think this screen is worth to have..... ....without screen.....no movie Marc Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > Nonsense ! > > There is no consciousness in which anything gets reflected. > Consciousness is its content. The noise and turmoil of the world is > the noise and turmoil made conscious. > > You can seek til doom's day those lovely cool and still water of > consciousness if you don't end up already beforehand in an asylum. > > Werner > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of dennis_travis33 > > Friday, May 06, 2005 3:12 PM > > Nisargadatta > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...> > wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > What is the Ocean ??? > > > > What is the Waves ??? > > > > They say that Blue colored thing is Ocean. > > > > They say this White colored one is a Wave. > > > > All in all It is only Water.>> > > > > > > Yes, there's only Water. And not even That. > > > > > > BabaG > > > > maybe Consciousness only...? > > > > Marc > > >>>>Yes, The cool silent still water of consciousnesss in which > this universe is a mere reflection. > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your > subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the > Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Namaste, the true nature of things is infinity.....infinite silence..... Consciousness.... the " masks " are illusions only...... without " masks " ....nothing realy change..... except to continue....what one ever have been.... the true nature of things.....or " life " .....or whatever.... peace and love Marc Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > Namasthe, > You can directly jump into the ocean ! > Who can jump directly into this ocean ?? > Are you ready to jump naked removing all masks ?? > Else you say i need tubes in the form of beliefs or gurus or religions (which can burst any time )to make me float ... > Are you ready to swim without fear for there is absolutely no thirst hear - In the Absolute Ocean. > Are you ready to be a NON sense person ??? > > murali > > > > > Nisargadatta [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of dennis_travis33 > Friday, May 06, 2005 4:45 PM > Nisargadatta > Re: Ocean > > > > Namaste, > > maybe Consciousness is the screen on which everything is " seen " ...and > percieved...... > the screen itself is untouched by the " mind-movie " ... > > i think this screen is worth to have..... > > ...without screen.....no movie > > Marc > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > wrote: > > Nonsense ! > > > > There is no consciousness in which anything gets reflected. > > Consciousness is its content. The noise and turmoil of the world is > > the noise and turmoil made conscious. > > > > You can seek til doom's day those lovely cool and still water of > > consciousness if you don't end up already beforehand in an asylum. > > > > Werner > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of dennis_travis33 > > > Friday, May 06, 2005 3:12 PM > > > Nisargadatta > > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...> > > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > What is the Ocean ??? > > > > > What is the Waves ??? > > > > > They say that Blue colored thing is Ocean. > > > > > They say this White colored one is a Wave. > > > > > All in all It is only Water.>> > > > > > > > > Yes, there's only Water. And not even That. > > > > > > > > BabaG > > > > > > maybe Consciousness only...? > > > > > > Marc > > > >>>>Yes, The cool silent still water of consciousnesss in which > > this universe is a mere reflection. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your > > subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > > > > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > > > > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the > > Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Oh my Goodness, Murali ... When there is a jumper there is no ocean to jump into. When there is no jumper then there is the ocean and no need to jump. Therefore lets forget all that jumping business and watch tv or have a smoke or a drink. Werner Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > Namasthe, > You can directly jump into the ocean ! > Who can jump directly into this ocean ?? > Are you ready to jump naked removing all masks ?? > Else you say i need tubes in the form of beliefs or gurus or religions (which can burst any time )to make me float ... > Are you ready to swim without fear for there is absolutely no thirst hear - In the Absolute Ocean. > Are you ready to be a NON sense person ??? > > murali > > > > > Nisargadatta [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of dennis_travis33 > Friday, May 06, 2005 4:45 PM > Nisargadatta > Re: Ocean > > > > Namaste, > > maybe Consciousness is the screen on which everything is " seen " ...and > percieved...... > the screen itself is untouched by the " mind-movie " ... > > i think this screen is worth to have..... > > ...without screen.....no movie > > Marc > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > wrote: > > Nonsense ! > > > > There is no consciousness in which anything gets reflected. > > Consciousness is its content. The noise and turmoil of the world is > > the noise and turmoil made conscious. > > > > You can seek til doom's day those lovely cool and still water of > > consciousness if you don't end up already beforehand in an asylum. > > > > Werner > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of dennis_travis33 > > > Friday, May 06, 2005 3:12 PM > > > Nisargadatta > > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...> > > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > What is the Ocean ??? > > > > > What is the Waves ??? > > > > > They say that Blue colored thing is Ocean. > > > > > They say this White colored one is a Wave. > > > > > All in all It is only Water.>> > > > > > > > > Yes, there's only Water. And not even That. > > > > > > > > BabaG > > > > > > maybe Consciousness only...? > > > > > > Marc > > > >>>>Yes, The cool silent still water of consciousnesss in which > > this universe is a mere reflection. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your > > subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > > > > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > > > > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the > > Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Marc, If you get hit by a car of bitten by a dog then you are no longer interested in their true nature - not to speak of infinite silence. Infinite silence and true nature of things - thats all baloney to fill boredom with or to feed one's self-importance. Werner Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > Namaste, > > the true nature of things is infinity.....infinite silence..... > > Consciousness.... > > the " masks " are illusions only...... > without " masks " ....nothing realy change..... > except to continue....what one ever have been.... > > the true nature of things.....or " life " .....or whatever.... > > peace and love > > Marc > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > Namasthe, > > You can directly jump into the ocean ! > > Who can jump directly into this ocean ?? > > Are you ready to jump naked removing all masks ?? > > Else you say i need tubes in the form of beliefs or gurus or > religions (which can burst any time )to make me float ... > > Are you ready to swim without fear for there is absolutely no > thirst hear - In the Absolute Ocean. > > Are you ready to be a NON sense person ??? > > > > murali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of dennis_travis33 > > Friday, May 06, 2005 4:45 PM > > Nisargadatta > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > maybe Consciousness is the screen on which everything > is " seen " ...and > > percieved...... > > the screen itself is untouched by the " mind-movie " ... > > > > i think this screen is worth to have..... > > > > ...without screen.....no movie > > > > Marc > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > > wrote: > > > Nonsense ! > > > > > > There is no consciousness in which anything gets reflected. > > > Consciousness is its content. The noise and turmoil of the world > is > > > the noise and turmoil made conscious. > > > > > > You can seek til doom's day those lovely cool and still water of > > > consciousness if you don't end up already beforehand in an asylum. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of dennis_travis33 > > > > Friday, May 06, 2005 3:12 PM > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " > <falkgw@h...> > > > wrote: > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > What is the Ocean ??? > > > > > > What is the Waves ??? > > > > > > They say that Blue colored thing is Ocean. > > > > > > They say this White colored one is a Wave. > > > > > > All in all It is only Water.>> > > > > > > > > > > Yes, there's only Water. And not even That. > > > > > > > > > > BabaG > > > > > > > > maybe Consciousness only...? > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > >>>>Yes, The cool silent still water of consciousnesss in > which > > > this universe is a mere reflection. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your > > > subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My > Groups: > > > > > > > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > > > > > > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the > > > Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2005 maybe you are right.... nothing ever is important... except Consciousness Marc Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > Marc, > > If you get hit by a car of bitten by a dog then you are no longer > interested in their true nature - not to speak of > infinite silence. > > Infinite silence and true nature of things - thats all baloney to > fill boredom with or to feed one's self-importance. > > Werner > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > the true nature of things is infinity.....infinite silence..... > > > > Consciousness.... > > > > the " masks " are illusions only...... > > without " masks " ....nothing realy change..... > > except to continue....what one ever have been.... > > > > the true nature of things.....or " life " .....or whatever.... > > > > peace and love > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > Namasthe, > > > You can directly jump into the ocean ! > > > Who can jump directly into this ocean ?? > > > Are you ready to jump naked removing all masks ?? > > > Else you say i need tubes in the form of beliefs or gurus or > > religions (which can burst any time )to make me float ... > > > Are you ready to swim without fear for there is absolutely no > > thirst hear - In the Absolute Ocean. > > > Are you ready to be a NON sense person ??? > > > > > > murali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of dennis_travis33 > > > Friday, May 06, 2005 4:45 PM > > > Nisargadatta > > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > maybe Consciousness is the screen on which everything > > is " seen " ...and > > > percieved...... > > > the screen itself is untouched by the " mind-movie " ... > > > > > > i think this screen is worth to have..... > > > > > > ...without screen.....no movie > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > > > wrote: > > > > Nonsense ! > > > > > > > > There is no consciousness in which anything gets reflected. > > > > Consciousness is its content. The noise and turmoil of the > world > > is > > > > the noise and turmoil made conscious. > > > > > > > > You can seek til doom's day those lovely cool and still water > of > > > > consciousness if you don't end up already beforehand in an > asylum. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of > dennis_travis33 > > > > > Friday, May 06, 2005 3:12 PM > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " > > <falkgw@h...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H > \(GE > > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the Ocean ??? > > > > > > > What is the Waves ??? > > > > > > > They say that Blue colored thing is Ocean. > > > > > > > They say this White colored one is a Wave. > > > > > > > All in all It is only Water.>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, there's only Water. And not even That. > > > > > > > > > > > > BabaG > > > > > > > > > > maybe Consciousness only...? > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > >>>>Yes, The cool silent still water of consciousnesss in > > which > > > > this universe is a mere reflection. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change > your > > > > subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My > > Groups: > > > > > > > > > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > > > > > > > > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the > > > > Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Hi Marc, And " importance " is imported by thought. Without thought no importance. Werner Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > maybe you are right.... > > nothing ever is important... > > except Consciousness > > Marc > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > wrote: > > Marc, > > > > If you get hit by a car of bitten by a dog then you are no longer > > interested in their true nature - not to speak of > > infinite silence. > > > > Infinite silence and true nature of things - thats all baloney to > > fill boredom with or to feed one's self-importance. > > > > Werner > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > the true nature of things is infinity.....infinite silence..... > > > > > > Consciousness.... > > > > > > the " masks " are illusions only...... > > > without " masks " ....nothing realy change..... > > > except to continue....what one ever have been.... > > > > > > the true nature of things.....or " life " .....or whatever.... > > > > > > peace and love > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > Namasthe, > > > > You can directly jump into the ocean ! > > > > Who can jump directly into this ocean ?? > > > > Are you ready to jump naked removing all masks ?? > > > > Else you say i need tubes in the form of beliefs or gurus or > > > religions (which can burst any time )to make me float ... > > > > Are you ready to swim without fear for there is absolutely no > > > thirst hear - In the Absolute Ocean. > > > > Are you ready to be a NON sense person ??? > > > > > > > > murali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of dennis_travis33 > > > > Friday, May 06, 2005 4:45 PM > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > maybe Consciousness is the screen on which everything > > > is " seen " ...and > > > > percieved...... > > > > the screen itself is untouched by the " mind-movie " ... > > > > > > > > i think this screen is worth to have..... > > > > > > > > ...without screen.....no movie > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " > <wwoehr@p...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Nonsense ! > > > > > > > > > > There is no consciousness in which anything gets reflected. > > > > > Consciousness is its content. The noise and turmoil of the > > world > > > is > > > > > the noise and turmoil made conscious. > > > > > > > > > > You can seek til doom's day those lovely cool and still water > > of > > > > > consciousness if you don't end up already beforehand in an > > asylum. > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > > Friday, May 06, 2005 3:12 PM > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " > > > <falkgw@h...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H > > \(GE > > > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the Ocean ??? > > > > > > > > What is the Waves ??? > > > > > > > > They say that Blue colored thing is Ocean. > > > > > > > > They say this White colored one is a Wave. > > > > > > > > All in all It is only Water.>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, there's only Water. And not even That. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BabaG > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe Consciousness only...? > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > >>>>Yes, The cool silent still water of consciousnesss in > > > which > > > > > this universe is a mere reflection. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change > > your > > > > > subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My > > > Groups: > > > > > > > > > > > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for > the > > > > > Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Namaste Werner, without illusion......no Werner and no Marc.... words only.....an ocean of words here...... instead of " jumping " in an ocean of words..... would be better to watch the stars....with no mind Marc -- In Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > Hi Marc, > > And " importance " is imported by thought. Without thought no > importance. > > Werner > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > maybe you are right.... > > > > nothing ever is important... > > > > except Consciousness > > > > Marc > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > > wrote: > > > Marc, > > > > > > If you get hit by a car of bitten by a dog then you are no longer > > > interested in their true nature - not to speak of > > > infinite silence. > > > > > > Infinite silence and true nature of things - thats all baloney to > > > fill boredom with or to feed one's self-importance. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > the true nature of things is infinity.....infinite silence..... > > > > > > > > Consciousness.... > > > > > > > > the " masks " are illusions only...... > > > > without " masks " ....nothing realy change..... > > > > except to continue....what one ever have been.... > > > > > > > > the true nature of things.....or " life " .....or whatever.... > > > > > > > > peace and love > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > Namasthe, > > > > > You can directly jump into the ocean ! > > > > > Who can jump directly into this ocean ?? > > > > > Are you ready to jump naked removing all masks ?? > > > > > Else you say i need tubes in the form of beliefs or gurus or > > > > religions (which can burst any time )to make me float ... > > > > > Are you ready to swim without fear for there is absolutely no > > > > thirst hear - In the Absolute Ocean. > > > > > Are you ready to be a NON sense person ??? > > > > > > > > > > murali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of > dennis_travis33 > > > > > Friday, May 06, 2005 4:45 PM > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > maybe Consciousness is the screen on which everything > > > > is " seen " ...and > > > > > percieved...... > > > > > the screen itself is untouched by the " mind-movie " ... > > > > > > > > > > i think this screen is worth to have..... > > > > > > > > > > ...without screen.....no movie > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " > > <wwoehr@p...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Nonsense ! > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no consciousness in which anything gets reflected. > > > > > > Consciousness is its content. The noise and turmoil of the > > > world > > > > is > > > > > > the noise and turmoil made conscious. > > > > > > > > > > > > You can seek til doom's day those lovely cool and still > water > > > of > > > > > > consciousness if you don't end up already beforehand in an > > > asylum. > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H > \(GE > > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > > > Friday, May 06, 2005 3:12 PM > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " > > > > <falkgw@h...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali > H > > > \(GE > > > > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the Ocean ??? > > > > > > > > > What is the Waves ??? > > > > > > > > > They say that Blue colored thing is Ocean. > > > > > > > > > They say this White colored one is a Wave. > > > > > > > > > All in all It is only Water.>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, there's only Water. And not even That. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BabaG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe Consciousness only...? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > >>>>Yes, The cool silent still water of consciousnesss > in > > > > which > > > > > > this universe is a mere reflection. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to > change > > > your > > > > > > subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My > > > > Groups: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for > > the > > > > > > Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Ok Marc, Lets end exchanging words and as a consequence lets close the Niz list. Maybe you could write a short message to Hur to close it ? Werner Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > Namaste Werner, > > without illusion......no Werner and no Marc.... > > words only.....an ocean of words here...... > instead of " jumping " in an ocean of words..... > would be better to watch the stars....with no mind > > Marc > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > wrote: > > Hi Marc, > > > > And " importance " is imported by thought. Without thought no > > importance. > > > > Werner > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > > > > maybe you are right.... > > > > > > nothing ever is important... > > > > > > except Consciousness > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > > > wrote: > > > > Marc, > > > > > > > > If you get hit by a car of bitten by a dog then you are no > longer > > > > interested in their true nature - not to speak of > > > > infinite silence. > > > > > > > > Infinite silence and true nature of things - thats all baloney > to > > > > fill boredom with or to feed one's self-importance. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > the true nature of things is infinity.....infinite > silence..... > > > > > > > > > > Consciousness.... > > > > > > > > > > the " masks " are illusions only...... > > > > > without " masks " ....nothing realy change..... > > > > > except to continue....what one ever have been.... > > > > > > > > > > the true nature of things.....or " life " .....or whatever.... > > > > > > > > > > peace and love > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Namasthe, > > > > > > You can directly jump into the ocean ! > > > > > > Who can jump directly into this ocean ?? > > > > > > Are you ready to jump naked removing all masks ?? > > > > > > Else you say i need tubes in the form of beliefs or gurus > or > > > > > religions (which can burst any time )to make me float ... > > > > > > Are you ready to swim without fear for there is absolutely > no > > > > > thirst hear - In the Absolute Ocean. > > > > > > Are you ready to be a NON sense person ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > murali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > > Friday, May 06, 2005 4:45 PM > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe Consciousness is the screen on which everything > > > > > is " seen " ...and > > > > > > percieved...... > > > > > > the screen itself is untouched by the " mind-movie " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > i think this screen is worth to have..... > > > > > > > > > > > > ...without screen.....no movie > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " > > > <wwoehr@p...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Nonsense ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no consciousness in which anything gets > reflected. > > > > > > > Consciousness is its content. The noise and turmoil of > the > > > > world > > > > > is > > > > > > > the noise and turmoil made conscious. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can seek til doom's day those lovely cool and still > > water > > > > of > > > > > > > consciousness if you don't end up already beforehand in > an > > > > asylum. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H > > \(GE > > > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > > > > Friday, May 06, 2005 3:12 PM > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " > > > > > <falkgw@h...> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, > Murali > > H > > > > \(GE > > > > > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the Ocean ??? > > > > > > > > > > What is the Waves ??? > > > > > > > > > > They say that Blue colored thing is Ocean. > > > > > > > > > > They say this White colored one is a Wave. > > > > > > > > > > All in all It is only Water.>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, there's only Water. And not even That. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BabaG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe Consciousness only...? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > >>>>Yes, The cool silent still water of consciousnesss > > in > > > > > which > > > > > > > this universe is a mere reflection. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to > > change > > > > your > > > > > > > subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit > My > > > > > Groups: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " > for > > > the > > > > > > > Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Dear Werner, let's have a break Regards Marc Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > Ok Marc, > > Lets end exchanging words and as a consequence lets close the Niz > list. Maybe you could write a short message to Hur to close it ? > > Werner > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Werner, > > > > without illusion......no Werner and no Marc.... > > > > words only.....an ocean of words here...... > > instead of " jumping " in an ocean of words..... > > would be better to watch the stars....with no mind > > > > Marc > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > > wrote: > > > Hi Marc, > > > > > > And " importance " is imported by thought. Without thought no > > > importance. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe you are right.... > > > > > > > > nothing ever is important... > > > > > > > > except Consciousness > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " > <wwoehr@p...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Marc, > > > > > > > > > > If you get hit by a car of bitten by a dog then you are no > > longer > > > > > interested in their true nature - not to speak of > > > > > infinite silence. > > > > > > > > > > Infinite silence and true nature of things - thats all > baloney > > to > > > > > fill boredom with or to feed one's self-importance. > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > the true nature of things is infinity.....infinite > > silence..... > > > > > > > > > > > > Consciousness.... > > > > > > > > > > > > the " masks " are illusions only...... > > > > > > without " masks " ....nothing realy change..... > > > > > > except to continue....what one ever have been.... > > > > > > > > > > > > the true nature of things.....or " life " .....or whatever.... > > > > > > > > > > > > peace and love > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H > \(GE > > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > Namasthe, > > > > > > > You can directly jump into the ocean ! > > > > > > > Who can jump directly into this ocean ?? > > > > > > > Are you ready to jump naked removing all masks ?? > > > > > > > Else you say i need tubes in the form of beliefs or gurus > > or > > > > > > religions (which can burst any time )to make me float ... > > > > > > > Are you ready to swim without fear for there is > absolutely > > no > > > > > > thirst hear - In the Absolute Ocean. > > > > > > > Are you ready to be a NON sense person ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > murali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > > > Friday, May 06, 2005 4:45 PM > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe Consciousness is the screen on which everything > > > > > > is " seen " ...and > > > > > > > percieved...... > > > > > > > the screen itself is untouched by the " mind-movie " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think this screen is worth to have..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...without screen.....no movie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " > > > > <wwoehr@p...> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nonsense ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no consciousness in which anything gets > > reflected. > > > > > > > > Consciousness is its content. The noise and turmoil of > > the > > > > > world > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > the noise and turmoil made conscious. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can seek til doom's day those lovely cool and still > > > water > > > > > of > > > > > > > > consciousness if you don't end up already beforehand in > > an > > > > > asylum. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali > H > > > \(GE > > > > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > > > > > Friday, May 06, 2005 3:12 PM > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " > > > > > > <falkgw@h...> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, > > Murali > > > H > > > > > \(GE > > > > > > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the Ocean ??? > > > > > > > > > > > What is the Waves ??? > > > > > > > > > > > They say that Blue colored thing is Ocean. > > > > > > > > > > > They say this White colored one is a Wave. > > > > > > > > > > > All in all It is only Water.>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, there's only Water. And not even That. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BabaG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe Consciousness only...? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > >>>>Yes, The cool silent still water of > consciousnesss > > > in > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > this universe is a mere reflection. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to > > > change > > > > > your > > > > > > > > subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit > > My > > > > > > Groups: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " > > for > > > > the > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > Good morning, Miss Judi, > > I apologize for any lingering obnoxious odor I may have left behind, expecially if it was slightly melliferous. I know how you detest that. > > Now, about the non-event thing. Isn't that the absolute Truth, after all that is said and done in this world of sense and form, nothing ever really happens. Once someOne pulls back far enough to See that. And the further back One pulls, the more One sees just how one really didn't see what One thought one saw. > > In the end, it really doesn't matter, does it Judy? It's all just blowing in the wind, and funny thing, oceans and waves don't mean a whole lot to me anymore, it's the wind and the stars that interest me. > > But enough about me. me. me. me. That does have a foul ring to it, doesn't it? > > How is your ranch doing? Do you have enough ranch hands? I know good help is hard to find? Would you mind if I ever visited you? > ********** If I ever let someone like you in my house, someone should shoot me. You belong in a looney bin locked up away from people and other forms of life. No kidding. If I ruled the world, that's where you'd be. Judi > Mother's Day is Sunday, do you have children or grandchildren? I'm sure they won't forget, as children always love their Mom. > > Pathetically or non-pathetically yours, > > Anna > > ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > > -- ---------- > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Hi D's And there we have it, to Self or No-Self. Let's see if there is something beyond This. After all, these forums are another version of The Jerry Springer Show, people 'coming out' with whatever, whenever...Only it's not even that honest. Most hide behind pseudonyms and One never gets to see the other in 'person' so to speak.....I to I. The unknown becomes the Known and 'moves on down the road' as Toomey said into the Unknown.... Let it Be, Let it Be... Love--Always and Forever--, the only 'thing' that 'matters' and has any 'consequence'. Anna - dennis_travis33 Nisargadatta Friday, May 06, 2005 9:03 AM Re: Ocean Dear Werner, let's have a break Regards Marc Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > Ok Marc, > > Lets end exchanging words and as a consequence lets close the Niz > list. Maybe you could write a short message to Hur to close it ? > > Werner > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Werner, > > > > without illusion......no Werner and no Marc.... > > > > words only.....an ocean of words here...... > > instead of " jumping " in an ocean of words..... > > would be better to watch the stars....with no mind > > > > Marc > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > > wrote: > > > Hi Marc, > > > > > > And " importance " is imported by thought. Without thought no > > > importance. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe you are right.... > > > > > > > > nothing ever is important... > > > > > > > > except Consciousness > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " > <wwoehr@p...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Marc, > > > > > > > > > > If you get hit by a car of bitten by a dog then you are no > > longer > > > > > interested in their true nature - not to speak of > > > > > infinite silence. > > > > > > > > > > Infinite silence and true nature of things - thats all > baloney > > to > > > > > fill boredom with or to feed one's self-importance. > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > the true nature of things is infinity.....infinite > > silence..... > > > > > > > > > > > > Consciousness.... > > > > > > > > > > > > the " masks " are illusions only...... > > > > > > without " masks " ....nothing realy change..... > > > > > > except to continue....what one ever have been.... > > > > > > > > > > > > the true nature of things.....or " life " .....or whatever.... > > > > > > > > > > > > peace and love > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H > \(GE > > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > Namasthe, > > > > > > > You can directly jump into the ocean ! > > > > > > > Who can jump directly into this ocean ?? > > > > > > > Are you ready to jump naked removing all masks ?? > > > > > > > Else you say i need tubes in the form of beliefs or gurus > > or > > > > > > religions (which can burst any time )to make me float ... > > > > > > > Are you ready to swim without fear for there is > absolutely > > no > > > > > > thirst hear - In the Absolute Ocean. > > > > > > > Are you ready to be a NON sense person ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > murali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > > > Friday, May 06, 2005 4:45 PM > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe Consciousness is the screen on which everything > > > > > > is " seen " ...and > > > > > > > percieved...... > > > > > > > the screen itself is untouched by the " mind-movie " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think this screen is worth to have..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...without screen.....no movie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " > > > > <wwoehr@p...> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nonsense ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no consciousness in which anything gets > > reflected. > > > > > > > > Consciousness is its content. The noise and turmoil of > > the > > > > > world > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > the noise and turmoil made conscious. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can seek til doom's day those lovely cool and still > > > water > > > > > of > > > > > > > > consciousness if you don't end up already beforehand in > > an > > > > > asylum. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali > H > > > \(GE > > > > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > > > > > Friday, May 06, 2005 3:12 PM > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " > > > > > > <falkgw@h...> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, > > Murali > > > H > > > > > \(GE > > > > > > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the Ocean ??? > > > > > > > > > > > What is the Waves ??? > > > > > > > > > > > They say that Blue colored thing is Ocean. > > > > > > > > > > > They say this White colored one is a Wave. > > > > > > > > > > > All in all It is only Water.>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, there's only Water. And not even That. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BabaG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe Consciousness only...? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > >>>>Yes, The cool silent still water of > consciousnesss > > > in > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > this universe is a mere reflection. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to > > > change > > > > > your > > > > > > > > subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit > > My > > > > > > Groups: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " > > for > > > > the > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Namaste Anna, yes....good that there is the heart to save us from the jump....into...? how could one talk about non-duality without the heart....which feel at home everywhere..... Regards peace and love Marc Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > Hi D's > > And there we have it, to Self or No-Self. > Let's see if there is something beyond This. > > After all, these forums are another version of The Jerry Springer Show, people 'coming out' with whatever, whenever...Only it's not even that honest. Most hide behind pseudonyms and One never gets to see the other in 'person' so to speak.....I to I. > > The unknown becomes the Known and 'moves on down the road' as Toomey said into the Unknown.... > > Let it Be, Let it Be... > > Love--Always and Forever--, the only 'thing' that 'matters' and has any 'consequence'. > > Anna > - > dennis_travis33 > Nisargadatta > Friday, May 06, 2005 9:03 AM > Re: Ocean > > > > Dear Werner, > > let's have a break > > Regards > > Marc > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > wrote: > > Ok Marc, > > > > Lets end exchanging words and as a consequence lets close the Niz > > list. Maybe you could write a short message to Hur to close it ? > > > > Werner > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Namaste Werner, > > > > > > without illusion......no Werner and no Marc.... > > > > > > words only.....an ocean of words here...... > > > instead of " jumping " in an ocean of words..... > > > would be better to watch the stars....with no mind > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > > > wrote: > > > > Hi Marc, > > > > > > > > And " importance " is imported by thought. Without thought no > > > > importance. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe you are right.... > > > > > > > > > > nothing ever is important... > > > > > > > > > > except Consciousness > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " > > <wwoehr@p...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Marc, > > > > > > > > > > > > If you get hit by a car of bitten by a dog then you are no > > > longer > > > > > > interested in their true nature - not to speak of > > > > > > infinite silence. > > > > > > > > > > > > Infinite silence and true nature of things - thats all > > baloney > > > to > > > > > > fill boredom with or to feed one's self-importance. > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the true nature of things is infinity.....infinite > > > silence..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Consciousness.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the " masks " are illusions only...... > > > > > > > without " masks " ....nothing realy change..... > > > > > > > except to continue....what one ever have been.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the true nature of things.....or " life " .....or > whatever.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > peace and love > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H > > \(GE > > > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namasthe, > > > > > > > > You can directly jump into the ocean ! > > > > > > > > Who can jump directly into this ocean ?? > > > > > > > > Are you ready to jump naked removing all masks ?? > > > > > > > > Else you say i need tubes in the form of beliefs or > gurus > > > or > > > > > > > religions (which can burst any time )to make me float ... > > > > > > > > Are you ready to swim without fear for there is > > absolutely > > > no > > > > > > > thirst hear - In the Absolute Ocean. > > > > > > > > Are you ready to be a NON sense person ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > murali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > > > > Friday, May 06, 2005 4:45 PM > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe Consciousness is the screen on which everything > > > > > > > is " seen " ...and > > > > > > > > percieved...... > > > > > > > > the screen itself is untouched by the " mind- movie " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think this screen is worth to have..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...without screen.....no movie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " > > > > > <wwoehr@p...> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Nonsense ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no consciousness in which anything gets > > > reflected. > > > > > > > > > Consciousness is its content. The noise and turmoil > of > > > the > > > > > > world > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > the noise and turmoil made conscious. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can seek til doom's day those lovely cool and > still > > > > water > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > consciousness if you don't end up already beforehand > in > > > an > > > > > > asylum. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, > Murali > > H > > > > \(GE > > > > > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of > > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > > > > > > Friday, May 06, 2005 3:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " > > > > > > > <falkgw@h...> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, > > > Murali > > > > H > > > > > > \(GE > > > > > > > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the Ocean ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the Waves ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > They say that Blue colored thing is Ocean. > > > > > > > > > > > > They say this White colored one is a Wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > All in all It is only Water.>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, there's only Water. And not even That. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BabaG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe Consciousness only...? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > >>>>Yes, The cool silent still water of > > consciousnesss > > > > in > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > this universe is a mere reflection. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to > > > > change > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > subscription, sign in with your ID and go to > Edit > > > My > > > > > > > Groups: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No > Email " > > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > Namaste Anna, > > yes....good that there is the heart to save us from the > jump....into...? > > how could one talk about non-duality without the heart....which feel > at home everywhere..... > *********** ?????? From the line in that movie, " Do you ever listen to the shit that comes out of your mouth? " :-) Judi > Regards > > peace and love > > Marc > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > Hi D's > > > > And there we have it, to Self or No-Self. > > Let's see if there is something beyond This. > > > > After all, these forums are another version of The Jerry Springer > Show, people 'coming out' with whatever, whenever...Only it's not > even that honest. Most hide behind pseudonyms and One never gets to > see the other in 'person' so to speak.....I to I. > > > > The unknown becomes the Known and 'moves on down the road' as > Toomey said into the Unknown.... > > > > Let it Be, Let it Be... > > > > Love--Always and Forever--, the only 'thing' that 'matters' and has > any 'consequence'. > > > > Anna > > - > > dennis_travis33 > > Nisargadatta > > Friday, May 06, 2005 9:03 AM > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > Dear Werner, > > > > let's have a break > > > > Regards > > > > Marc > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > > wrote: > > > Ok Marc, > > > > > > Lets end exchanging words and as a consequence lets close the > Niz > > > list. Maybe you could write a short message to Hur to close it ? > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Werner, > > > > > > > > without illusion......no Werner and no Marc.... > > > > > > > > words only.....an ocean of words here...... > > > > instead of " jumping " in an ocean of words..... > > > > would be better to watch the stars....with no mind > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " > <wwoehr@p...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Marc, > > > > > > > > > > And " importance " is imported by thought. Without thought no > > > > > importance. > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe you are right.... > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing ever is important... > > > > > > > > > > > > except Consciousness > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " > > > <wwoehr@p...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Marc, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you get hit by a car of bitten by a dog then you are > no > > > > longer > > > > > > > interested in their true nature - not to speak of > > > > > > > infinite silence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Infinite silence and true nature of things - thats all > > > baloney > > > > to > > > > > > > fill boredom with or to feed one's self-importance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the true nature of things is infinity.....infinite > > > > silence..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Consciousness.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the " masks " are illusions only...... > > > > > > > > without " masks " ....nothing realy change..... > > > > > > > > except to continue....what one ever have been.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the true nature of things.....or " life " .....or > > whatever.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > peace and love > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, > Murali H > > > \(GE > > > > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Namasthe, > > > > > > > > > You can directly jump into the ocean ! > > > > > > > > > Who can jump directly into this ocean ?? > > > > > > > > > Are you ready to jump naked removing all masks ?? > > > > > > > > > Else you say i need tubes in the form of beliefs or > > gurus > > > > or > > > > > > > > religions (which can burst any time )to make me > float ... > > > > > > > > > Are you ready to swim without fear for there is > > > absolutely > > > > no > > > > > > > > thirst hear - In the Absolute Ocean. > > > > > > > > > Are you ready to be a NON sense person ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > murali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > > > > > Friday, May 06, 2005 4:45 PM > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe Consciousness is the screen on which > everything > > > > > > > > is " seen " ...and > > > > > > > > > percieved...... > > > > > > > > > the screen itself is untouched by the " mind- > movie " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think this screen is worth to have..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...without screen.....no movie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " > > > > > > <wwoehr@p...> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no consciousness in which anything gets > > > > reflected. > > > > > > > > > > Consciousness is its content. The noise and > turmoil > > of > > > > the > > > > > > > world > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > the noise and turmoil made conscious. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can seek til doom's day those lovely cool and > > still > > > > > water > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > consciousness if you don't end up already > beforehand > > in > > > > an > > > > > > > asylum. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, > > Murali > > > H > > > > > \(GE > > > > > > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of > > > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, May 06, 2005 3:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " > > > > > > > > <falkgw@h...> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, > > > > Murali > > > > > H > > > > > > > \(GE > > > > > > > > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the Ocean ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the Waves ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > They say that Blue colored thing is Ocean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > They say this White colored one is a Wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > All in all It is only Water.>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, there's only Water. And not even That. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BabaG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe Consciousness only...? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>Yes, The cool silent still water of > > > consciousnesss > > > > > in > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > this universe is a mere reflection. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you do not wish to receive individual > emails, to > > > > > change > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > subscription, sign in with your ID and go > to > > Edit > > > > My > > > > > > > > Groups: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No > > Email " > > > > for > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Not quite Marc, not quite... The heart is always the first to 'jump' ... At the end of all searches which is alway ever and only an exercise into 'Self', there--hidden in the open--, is the pearl of great price--the Self that Is No-Thing save Love. Love, ever a journey from 'Here' to 'Here', a fearlessness coming 'Home'. Love is Peace, Anna - dennis_travis33 Nisargadatta Friday, May 06, 2005 9:42 AM Re: Ocean Namaste Anna, yes....good that there is the heart to save us from the jump....into...? how could one talk about non-duality without the heart....which feel at home everywhere..... Regards peace and love Marc Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > Hi D's > > And there we have it, to Self or No-Self. > Let's see if there is something beyond This. > > After all, these forums are another version of The Jerry Springer Show, people 'coming out' with whatever, whenever...Only it's not even that honest. Most hide behind pseudonyms and One never gets to see the other in 'person' so to speak.....I to I. > > The unknown becomes the Known and 'moves on down the road' as Toomey said into the Unknown.... > > Let it Be, Let it Be... > > Love--Always and Forever--, the only 'thing' that 'matters' and has any 'consequence'. > > Anna > - > dennis_travis33 > Nisargadatta > Friday, May 06, 2005 9:03 AM > Re: Ocean > > > > Dear Werner, > > let's have a break > > Regards > > Marc > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > wrote: > > Ok Marc, > > > > Lets end exchanging words and as a consequence lets close the Niz > > list. Maybe you could write a short message to Hur to close it ? > > > > Werner > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Namaste Werner, > > > > > > without illusion......no Werner and no Marc.... > > > > > > words only.....an ocean of words here...... > > > instead of " jumping " in an ocean of words..... > > > would be better to watch the stars....with no mind > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > > > wrote: > > > > Hi Marc, > > > > > > > > And " importance " is imported by thought. Without thought no > > > > importance. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe you are right.... > > > > > > > > > > nothing ever is important... > > > > > > > > > > except Consciousness > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " > > <wwoehr@p...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Marc, > > > > > > > > > > > > If you get hit by a car of bitten by a dog then you are no > > > longer > > > > > > interested in their true nature - not to speak of > > > > > > infinite silence. > > > > > > > > > > > > Infinite silence and true nature of things - thats all > > baloney > > > to > > > > > > fill boredom with or to feed one's self-importance. > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the true nature of things is infinity.....infinite > > > silence..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Consciousness.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the " masks " are illusions only...... > > > > > > > without " masks " ....nothing realy change..... > > > > > > > except to continue....what one ever have been.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the true nature of things.....or " life " .....or > whatever.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > peace and love > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H > > \(GE > > > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namasthe, > > > > > > > > You can directly jump into the ocean ! > > > > > > > > Who can jump directly into this ocean ?? > > > > > > > > Are you ready to jump naked removing all masks ?? > > > > > > > > Else you say i need tubes in the form of beliefs or > gurus > > > or > > > > > > > religions (which can burst any time )to make me float ... > > > > > > > > Are you ready to swim without fear for there is > > absolutely > > > no > > > > > > > thirst hear - In the Absolute Ocean. > > > > > > > > Are you ready to be a NON sense person ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > murali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > > > > Friday, May 06, 2005 4:45 PM > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe Consciousness is the screen on which everything > > > > > > > is " seen " ...and > > > > > > > > percieved...... > > > > > > > > the screen itself is untouched by the " mind- movie " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think this screen is worth to have..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...without screen.....no movie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " > > > > > <wwoehr@p...> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Nonsense ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no consciousness in which anything gets > > > reflected. > > > > > > > > > Consciousness is its content. The noise and turmoil > of > > > the > > > > > > world > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > the noise and turmoil made conscious. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can seek til doom's day those lovely cool and > still > > > > water > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > consciousness if you don't end up already beforehand > in > > > an > > > > > > asylum. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, > Murali > > H > > > > \(GE > > > > > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of > > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > > > > > > Friday, May 06, 2005 3:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " > > > > > > > <falkgw@h...> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, > > > Murali > > > > H > > > > > > \(GE > > > > > > > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the Ocean ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the Waves ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > They say that Blue colored thing is Ocean. > > > > > > > > > > > > They say this White colored one is a Wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > All in all It is only Water.>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, there's only Water. And not even That. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BabaG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe Consciousness only...? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > >>>>Yes, The cool silent still water of > > consciousnesss > > > > in > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > this universe is a mere reflection. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to > > > > change > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > subscription, sign in with your ID and go to > Edit > > > My > > > > > > > Groups: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No > Email " > > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > Not quite Marc, not quite... > > The heart is always the first to 'jump' ... > > At the end of all searches which is alway ever and only an exercise into 'Self', there--hidden in the open--, is the pearl of great price- -the Self that Is No-Thing save Love. > > Love, ever a journey from 'Here' to 'Here', a fearlessness coming 'Home'. > > Love is Peace, > > Anna > ********** No, that's just you, a " sicko " sticking it's head up its ass and calling it " shinola " . LOL Like Harsha, how stupid do you take us for? Bunch of sickos. Really very ugly. Judi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Namaste Anna, i agree in saying....there is nothing but the Self.... this " Self " is home..... everyone is more or less attached to home....the Self ....by the heart.... the moving mind (waves..) have the tendencies to " jump " ....wherever.....and high....or not..... ....after all....all remain always the same... doesn't matter where the " search " lead us.....again and again there is the Self ....or " Love " ....who tell... " there is nothing but the Self " words are words only Love is Love peace is love is Self Marc Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > Not quite Marc, not quite... > > The heart is always the first to 'jump' ... > > At the end of all searches which is alway ever and only an exercise into 'Self', there--hidden in the open--, is the pearl of great price- -the Self that Is No-Thing save Love. > > Love, ever a journey from 'Here' to 'Here', a fearlessness coming 'Home'. > > Love is Peace, > > Anna > > > > > > - > dennis_travis33 > Nisargadatta > Friday, May 06, 2005 9:42 AM > Re: Ocean > > > > > Namaste Anna, > > yes....good that there is the heart to save us from the > jump....into...? > > how could one talk about non-duality without the heart....which feel > at home everywhere..... > > Regards > > peace and love > > Marc > > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > Hi D's > > > > And there we have it, to Self or No-Self. > > Let's see if there is something beyond This. > > > > After all, these forums are another version of The Jerry Springer > Show, people 'coming out' with whatever, whenever...Only it's not > even that honest. Most hide behind pseudonyms and One never gets to > see the other in 'person' so to speak.....I to I. > > > > The unknown becomes the Known and 'moves on down the road' as > Toomey said into the Unknown.... > > > > Let it Be, Let it Be... > > > > Love--Always and Forever--, the only 'thing' that 'matters' and has > any 'consequence'. > > > > Anna > > - > > dennis_travis33 > > Nisargadatta > > Friday, May 06, 2005 9:03 AM > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > Dear Werner, > > > > let's have a break > > > > Regards > > > > Marc > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > > wrote: > > > Ok Marc, > > > > > > Lets end exchanging words and as a consequence lets close the > Niz > > > list. Maybe you could write a short message to Hur to close it ? > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Werner, > > > > > > > > without illusion......no Werner and no Marc.... > > > > > > > > words only.....an ocean of words here...... > > > > instead of " jumping " in an ocean of words..... > > > > would be better to watch the stars....with no mind > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " > <wwoehr@p...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Marc, > > > > > > > > > > And " importance " is imported by thought. Without thought no > > > > > importance. > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe you are right.... > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing ever is important... > > > > > > > > > > > > except Consciousness > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " > > > <wwoehr@p...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Marc, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you get hit by a car of bitten by a dog then you are > no > > > > longer > > > > > > > interested in their true nature - not to speak of > > > > > > > infinite silence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Infinite silence and true nature of things - thats all > > > baloney > > > > to > > > > > > > fill boredom with or to feed one's self-importance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the true nature of things is infinity.....infinite > > > > silence..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Consciousness.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the " masks " are illusions only...... > > > > > > > > without " masks " ....nothing realy change..... > > > > > > > > except to continue....what one ever have been.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the true nature of things.....or " life " .....or > > whatever.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > peace and love > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, > Murali H > > > \(GE > > > > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Namasthe, > > > > > > > > > You can directly jump into the ocean ! > > > > > > > > > Who can jump directly into this ocean ?? > > > > > > > > > Are you ready to jump naked removing all masks ?? > > > > > > > > > Else you say i need tubes in the form of beliefs or > > gurus > > > > or > > > > > > > > religions (which can burst any time )to make me > float ... > > > > > > > > > Are you ready to swim without fear for there is > > > absolutely > > > > no > > > > > > > > thirst hear - In the Absolute Ocean. > > > > > > > > > Are you ready to be a NON sense person ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > murali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > > > > > Friday, May 06, 2005 4:45 PM > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe Consciousness is the screen on which > everything > > > > > > > > is " seen " ...and > > > > > > > > > percieved...... > > > > > > > > > the screen itself is untouched by the " mind- > movie " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think this screen is worth to have..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...without screen.....no movie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " > > > > > > <wwoehr@p...> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no consciousness in which anything gets > > > > reflected. > > > > > > > > > > Consciousness is its content. The noise and > turmoil > > of > > > > the > > > > > > > world > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > the noise and turmoil made conscious. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can seek til doom's day those lovely cool and > > still > > > > > water > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > consciousness if you don't end up already > beforehand > > in > > > > an > > > > > > > asylum. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, > > Murali > > > H > > > > > \(GE > > > > > > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > [Nisargadatta ]On Behalf Of > > > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, May 06, 2005 3:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " > > > > > > > > <falkgw@h...> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, > > > > Murali > > > > > H > > > > > > > \(GE > > > > > > > > > > > > Healthcare\) " <Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the Ocean ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the Waves ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > They say that Blue colored thing is Ocean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > They say this White colored one is a Wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > All in all It is only Water.>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, there's only Water. And not even That. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BabaG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe Consciousness only...? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>Yes, The cool silent still water of > > > consciousnesss > > > > > in > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > this universe is a mere reflection. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you do not wish to receive individual > emails, to > > > > > change > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > subscription, sign in with your ID and go > to > > Edit > > > > My > > > > > > > > Groups: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No > > Email " > > > > for > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
