Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > > > > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tom Flou " <tom@f...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonacceptance with life is probably the best answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /AK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, Anders > > > > > > > > > > > Accepting life, is the best ;-)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > Snipping unjustly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I meant that as an answer to your question about my condition > > > > > > being as > > > > > > > > > > it is. Nonacceptance of life is my present condition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No......it is not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, at least inner conflict is my present state. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No...it is not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I am bit happier, but the conflict is still there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have a goose egg in a bottle.....and the egg is about to > > > > hatch........how do you get > > > > > the egg out ,,,,,,,,,,,without breaking the bottle? > > > > > > > > That's easy. Just teleport the bottle to another location in space, > > > > but leave the goose egg unteleported. > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you get the egg out of the bottle? > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > The goose is hatching........... > > > > How do you get the goose out of the bottle? > > > > > > t. > > > The baby goose is going to need food and water....but it will soon outgrow the > bottle............What are you going to do? I'll think of something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > > > > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tom Flou " > <tom@f...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonacceptance with life is probably the best answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /AK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, Anders > > > > > > > > > > > Accepting life, is the best ;-)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > Snipping unjustly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I meant that as an answer to your question about my > condition > > > > > > being as > > > > > > > > > > it is. Nonacceptance of life is my present condition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No......it is not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, at least inner conflict is my present state. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No...it is not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I am bit happier, but the conflict is still there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have a goose egg in a bottle.....and the egg is about to > > > > hatch........how do you get > > > > > the egg out ,,,,,,,,,,,without breaking the bottle? > > > > > > > > That's easy. Just teleport the bottle to another location in space, > > > > but leave the goose egg unteleported. > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you get the egg out of the bottle? > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > The goose is hatching........... > > > > How do you get the goose out of the bottle? > > > > > > t. > > I'll smash the bottle to bloody pieces! Ooops! Did I also smash the egg? > > /AL The bottle is unsmashable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > > > > > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tom Flou " > <tom@f...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > " anders_lindman " > > > > > > > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonacceptance with life is probably the best > answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /AK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, Anders > > > > > > > > > > > > Accepting life, is the best ;-)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > Snipping unjustly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I meant that as an answer to your question about > my condition > > > > > > > being as > > > > > > > > > > > it is. Nonacceptance of life is my present condition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No......it is not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, at least inner conflict is my present state. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No...it is not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I am bit happier, but the conflict is still there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have a goose egg in a bottle.....and the egg is about to > > > > > hatch........how do you get > > > > > > the egg out ,,,,,,,,,,,without breaking the bottle? > > > > > > > > > > That's easy. Just teleport the bottle to another location in > space, > > > > > but leave the goose egg unteleported. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you get the egg out of the bottle? > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > The goose is hatching........... > > > > > > How do you get the goose out of the bottle? > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > The baby goose is going to need food and water....but it will soon > outgrow the > > bottle............What are you going to do? > > I'll think of something. Time is running out.......the baby goose is having trouble breathing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > > > > > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tom Flou " > > <tom@f...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > > > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonacceptance with life is probably the best answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /AK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, Anders > > > > > > > > > > > > Accepting life, is the best ;-)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > Snipping unjustly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I meant that as an answer to your question about my > > condition > > > > > > > being as > > > > > > > > > > > it is. Nonacceptance of life is my present condition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No......it is not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, at least inner conflict is my present state. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No...it is not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I am bit happier, but the conflict is still there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have a goose egg in a bottle.....and the egg is about to > > > > > hatch........how do you get > > > > > > the egg out ,,,,,,,,,,,without breaking the bottle? > > > > > > > > > > That's easy. Just teleport the bottle to another location in space, > > > > > but leave the goose egg unteleported. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you get the egg out of the bottle? > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > The goose is hatching........... > > > > > > How do you get the goose out of the bottle? > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > I'll smash the bottle to bloody pieces! Ooops! Did I also smash the egg? > > > > /AL > > > The bottle is unsmashable. The goose will smash it from inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > > > > > > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tom Flou " > > <tom@f...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > > " anders_lindman " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonacceptance with life is probably the best > > answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /AK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, Anders > > > > > > > > > > > > > Accepting life, is the best ;-)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > Snipping unjustly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I meant that as an answer to your question about > > my condition > > > > > > > > being as > > > > > > > > > > > > it is. Nonacceptance of life is my present condition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No......it is not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, at least inner conflict is my present state. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No...it is not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I am bit happier, but the conflict is still there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have a goose egg in a bottle.....and the egg is about to > > > > > > hatch........how do you get > > > > > > > the egg out ,,,,,,,,,,,without breaking the bottle? > > > > > > > > > > > > That's easy. Just teleport the bottle to another location in > > space, > > > > > > but leave the goose egg unteleported. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you get the egg out of the bottle? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > The goose is hatching........... > > > > > > > > How do you get the goose out of the bottle? > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > The baby goose is going to need food and water....but it will soon > > outgrow the > > > bottle............What are you going to do? > > > > I'll think of something. > > > Time is running out.......the baby goose is having trouble breathing! What time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > > > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > > > > > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tom Flou " > <tom@f...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > " anders_lindman " > > > > > > > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonacceptance with life is probably the best > answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /AK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, Anders > > > > > > > > > > > > Accepting life, is the best ;-)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > Snipping unjustly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I meant that as an answer to your question about my > > > condition > > > > > > > being as > > > > > > > > > > > it is. Nonacceptance of life is my present condition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No......it is not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, at least inner conflict is my present state. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No...it is not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I am bit happier, but the conflict is still there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have a goose egg in a bottle.....and the egg is about to > > > > > hatch........how do you get > > > > > > the egg out ,,,,,,,,,,,without breaking the bottle? > > > > > > > > > > That's easy. Just teleport the bottle to another location in > space, > > > > > but leave the goose egg unteleported. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you get the egg out of the bottle? > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > I myself would break the bottle so that the egg could come out. ;-) > > > > > > > > I told you.....You can't break the bottle.... > > > > > > Time is running out. > > > > > > What are you going to do? > > I'll disobey your order and smash the damn bottle anyway! No........The bottle cannot be broken. The baby is constricted and turning blue........For God's sake do something! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > <anders_lindman> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > > > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > > > > > > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tom Flou " > > > <tom@f...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > " anders_lindman " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonacceptance with life is probably the best > answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /AK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, Anders > > > > > > > > > > > > > Accepting life, is the best ;-)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > Snipping unjustly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I meant that as an answer to your question about my > > > condition > > > > > > > > being as > > > > > > > > > > > > it is. Nonacceptance of life is my present > condition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No......it is not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, at least inner conflict is my present state. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No...it is not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I am bit happier, but the conflict is still there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have a goose egg in a bottle.....and the egg is > about to > > > > > > hatch........how do you get > > > > > > > the egg out ,,,,,,,,,,,without breaking the bottle? > > > > > > > > > > > > That's easy. Just teleport the bottle to another location in > space, > > > > > > but leave the goose egg unteleported. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you get the egg out of the bottle? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > The goose is hatching........... > > > > > > > > How do you get the goose out of the bottle? > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > I'll smash the bottle to bloody pieces! Ooops! Did I also smash > the egg? > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > The bottle is unsmashable. > > The goose will smash it from inside. No.......the baby is too weak now...the bottle cannot be broken.....her eyes are closing......... Do something! Please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > <anders_lindman> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > > > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > > > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > > > > > > > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > " anders_lindman " > > > > > > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tom Flou " > > > <tom@f...> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > > > " anders_lindman " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonacceptance with life is probably the best > > > answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /AK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, Anders > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Accepting life, is the best ;-)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Snipping unjustly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I meant that as an answer to your question about > > > my condition > > > > > > > > > being as > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is. Nonacceptance of life is my present > condition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No......it is not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, at least inner conflict is my present state. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No...it is not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I am bit happier, but the conflict is still there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have a goose egg in a bottle.....and the egg is > about to > > > > > > > hatch........how do you get > > > > > > > > the egg out ,,,,,,,,,,,without breaking the bottle? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's easy. Just teleport the bottle to another location in > > > space, > > > > > > > but leave the goose egg unteleported. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you get the egg out of the bottle? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The goose is hatching........... > > > > > > > > > > How do you get the goose out of the bottle? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t. > > > > > > > > > > > > The baby goose is going to need food and water....but it will soon > > > outgrow the > > > > bottle............What are you going to do? > > > > > > I'll think of something. > > > > > > Time is running out.......the baby goose is having trouble breathing! > > What time? The baby is close to death....and you talk of time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Tom Flou " <tom@f...> wrote: > > > Yes, I know, Anders. > Just could not resist the temptation to > " misunderstand " ;-) > And I still suggest that your perceived > dissatisfaction with your life > is caused by this nonacceptance. > Listen to Tolle: > Surrender to (totally accept) the now. > Thereby rendering your feverish attempts > to think yourself some way out of reality > unnecessary, and releasing some mental activity > for the purpose of remembering your pin codes ;-) > > Best wishes, Tom > > > > No, Anders > > > Accepting life, is the best ;-)) > > > > > > Tom > > > Snipping unjustly. > > > > I meant that as an answer to your question about my condition > > being as it is. Nonacceptance of life is my present condition. > > > > /AL --------------------------- **Not** accepting is the very thing that weaves the " problems " you perceive. It depends on what you are looking to achieve. If your looking to achieve dissatisfication then you are choosing the avenue that will continue to provide it, otherwise accepting is linked to part of the primitive reptillian core/instinct to which you are referring. ~G. --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 If you bring the egg and goose to me..... I will show you what to do. t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > If you bring the egg and goose to me..... > > > I will show you what to do. > > > > t. -------------------------------- It's your game toombaru. You make the rules to your game as you've shown very clearly in this exercise with Al. You offer a rule and ask Al's response. Al gives a response and you set up a different rule to the game. you're having fun playing this game and making the rules as you go along. And yet, you recently criticized the art of game playing considering it to be just another (I quote) " hackneyed religion " . And yet you play your game and don't even realize [apparently] that you are playing one, and yet criticizing the person who suggests that you might all just accept that your playing a game and get on with it already. Wow!! Do you see why I'm suggesting a perscription for thought? Then ILIkeZen Alberto/Odysseus and Al say, " kill thought " rip it out. yowza. ~G. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " goldenrainbowrider " <laughterx8@h...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > If you bring the egg and goose to me..... > > > > > > > > > I will show you what to do. This .......game.........was a taste of what mind does. It imagines a problem....(egg in a bottle).......and then attemps to solve it. It has no problems......only imaginary eggs in bottles. There never was a goose egg in an unbreakable bottle. The mind is composed .....of nothing more then............ eggs and bottles. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " goldenrainbowrider " <laughterx8@h...> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you bring the egg and goose to me..... > > > > > > > > > > > > I will show you what to do. This .......game.........was a taste of what mind does. > > It imagines a problem....(egg in a bottle).......and then attemps to solve it. > > It has no problems......only imaginary eggs in bottles. > > There never was a goose egg in an unbreakable bottle. > > The mind is composed .....of nothing more then............ eggs and bottles. > toombaru --------------------------- and yet......... you continue................. to play................ and yet........... you continue............. to deny that you are............ I guess only you know why. ~G. ---- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: >This .......game.........was a taste of what mind does. > >It imagines a problem....(egg in a bottle).......and then attemps to >solve it. > >It has no problems......only imaginary eggs in bottles. > >There never was a goose egg in an unbreakable bottle. > >The mind is composed .....of nothing more then............ eggs and >bottles. And how beautifully, how richly it is composed. Is there anything wrong about it? It represents the way we live our lifes. We should let it flow, allow it to be its very nature. Only then we might be able go beyond it. S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@c...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > >This .......game.........was a taste of what mind does. > > > >It imagines a problem....(egg in a bottle).......and then attemps to > >solve it. > > > >It has no problems......only imaginary eggs in bottles. > > > >There never was a goose egg in an unbreakable bottle. > > > >The mind is composed .....of nothing more then............ eggs and > >bottles. > > And how beautifully, how richly it is composed. It is inclined to be a bit grandiose in its own self-assessment. Is there anything > wrong about it? No. There can be nothing wrong in something that exists only as an ides. It represents the way we live our lifes. We should let > it flow, allow it to be its very nature. " We " are not independent of the " mind " . The " we " .....(I am) is the reselt of conceptualization.....not its source. It flows......regardless of what we think we choose. Only then we might be able go > beyond it. > > S. We are mind-stuff. Nothing can go beyond itself. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " goldenrainbowrider " <laughterx8@h...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " goldenrainbowrider " > <laughterx8@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > <cptc@w...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you bring the egg and goose to me..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will show you what to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This .......game.........was a taste of what mind does. > > > > It imagines a problem....(egg in a bottle).......and then attemps > to solve it. > > > > It has no problems......only imaginary eggs in bottles. > > > > There never was a goose egg in an unbreakable bottle. > > > > The mind is composed .....of nothing more then............ eggs > and bottles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > --------------------------- > > and yet......... > > you continue................. > > to play................ > > and yet........... > > you continue............. > > to deny that you are............ > > I guess only you know why. > > ~G. > ---- Why do you assume that this self knows why it does anything? No " self " does......or can. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > I told you.....You can't break the bottle.... > > > > > > > > > Time is running out. > > > > > > > > > What are you going to do? > > > > I'll disobey your order and smash the damn bottle anyway! > > > > > No........The bottle cannot be broken. > > The baby is constricted and turning blue........For God's sake do something! How's the goose baby today? It should be dead by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@c...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > >This .......game.........was a taste of what mind does. > > > > > >It imagines a problem....(egg in a bottle).......and then attemps to > > >solve it. > > > > > >It has no problems......only imaginary eggs in bottles. > > > > > >There never was a goose egg in an unbreakable bottle. > > > > > >The mind is composed .....of nothing more then............ eggs and > > >bottles. > > > > And how beautifully, how richly it is composed. > > > > It is inclined to be a bit grandiose in its own self-assessment. Is there anything > > wrong about it? > > > > > No. > > There can be nothing wrong in something that exists only as an ides. > > > > It represents the way we live our lifes. We should let > > it flow, allow it to be its very nature. > > > > > > " We " are not independent of the " mind " . > > The " we " .....(I am) is the reselt of conceptualization.....not its source. > > It flows......regardless of what we think we choose. > > > > Only then we might be able go > > beyond it. > > > > S. > > > > We are mind-stuff. > > Nothing can go beyond itself. Thinking is not the highest state for humanity according to Eckhart Tolle. If he is correct, then evolution itself can go beyind itself; it can evolve. To make what Tolle said more clear, let me add: he is not talking about removing the ability to think, thoughts can operate beautifully in this new state of awareness, he says. /AL > > > > toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@c...> wrote: (me, about mind:) >Is there anything wrong about it? (you) >No. There can be nothing wrong in something that exists only as an ides. Well, it is new to me that ideas cannot be called " right/wrong " ? I thought this is how the mind functions, calling ideas " right/wrong " . And your mind is obviously no exception. But I agree that the mind exists only as an idea. Like everything that is given names. The question is only, WHO is having this idea then? Or, WHAT is the mind in reality? > " We " are not independent of the " mind " . So: " we " are dependent on the mind. Does this mean " we " is an idea of the mind? Whose idea is the mind then? >The " we " .....(I am) is the reselt of conceptualization.....not its >source. Agreed for the " we " (I am not shure what you mean with " I am " ). This brings up the question: WHO is conceptualizing the " we " , what IS the source? >We are mind-stuff. > >Nothing can go beyond itself. You just have constituted that the mind and the " we " are ideas and conceptualizations. So, certainly there must be something which is having ideas and concepts. It necessarily has to be beyond, or something else than mind and also than " we " and it cannot be an idea itself. Because, as you just said, nothing can be beyond itself. In other words, nothing can be the result of its own conceptualization. And there it goes, your mind dreaming the mind... being dreamed by the mind... a fairy tale told by T. S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 In a message dated 2/6/05 9:05:01 AM, diana_53231 writes: > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The mentation that flows from the mouth of one who has > experienced his own vacuity is drawn from with his own accumulated > mentation....and then interpreted from an entirely different world > of memories....... > > > > Every thing that comes from a sage in not true....... > > > > Just ask their spouses....or their teenage daughters......LOL > > > > Remember....Ramana told his followers that his cow reached > enlightenment. > > > > > > > > (It is amazing how many ways Ramana addicts try to force that into > a reasonalbe package) > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > Let me tell you i am suppressing irritation here, toomy. > In spite of the many ways people have told you, you > come down on the side of nihilism, i see you brush past > those replies. > > Lakshmi was 'enlightened' in the same way every appearance > is, by the mere 'fact' of appearing. > > You use it, often, to imply a silliness, but the silliness > lies in not checking in what manner it might be so. > Hi Diana, I'm blessed by living next to a suburban train station. People park their cars and ride the train downtown. Well, you can imagine with so many parked cars around, at least once a week the alarm, or the horn of one malfunctions and goes off. The first reaction, of course, is one of irritation. Here we go again! Same old, same old. Then I remind myself is a mechanical thing, there is no malevolent intention behind it, it will eventually stop, etc., and I tune it out. Toom posts are just that, a mechanical malfunction of an aging brain. Beeeep Wawawa Beeep! Only when someone like you with something intelligent and fresh to say replies to his honking honk I bother to read. And you are so right, every appearance is, every illusion, every dream, every delirium, every lie has a physical substratum in the brain, and shows in a cat scan. It's only in their consequences that we can distinguish appearances. Some bear the fruit of more appearances good or evil. Others like night dreams are barren. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@c...> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > >This .......game.........was a taste of what mind does. > > > > > > > >It imagines a problem....(egg in a bottle).......and then attemps to > > > >solve it. > > > > > > > >It has no problems......only imaginary eggs in bottles. > > > > > > > >There never was a goose egg in an unbreakable bottle. > > > > > > > >The mind is composed .....of nothing more then............ eggs and > > > >bottles. > > > > > > And how beautifully, how richly it is composed. > > > > > > > > It is inclined to be a bit grandiose in its own self-assessment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there anything > > > wrong about it? > > > > > > > > > > No. > > > > There can be nothing wrong in something that exists only as an ides. > > > > > > > > It represents the way we live our lifes. We should let > > > it flow, allow it to be its very nature. > > > > > > > > > > > > " We " are not independent of the " mind " . > > > > The " we " .....(I am) is the reselt of conceptualization.....not its > source. > > > > It flows......regardless of what we think we choose. > > > > > > > > Only then we might be able go > > > beyond it. > > > > > > S. > > > > > > > > We are mind-stuff. > > > > Nothing can go beyond itself. > > Thinking is not the highest state for humanity according to Eckhart > Tolle. If he is correct, then evolution itself can go beyind itself; > it can evolve. To make what Tolle said more clear, let me add: he is > not talking about removing the ability to think, thoughts can operate > beautifully in this new state of awareness, he says. > > /AL > > > > > > > > > toombaru The mentation that flows from the mouth of one who has experienced his own vacuity is drawn from with his own accumulated mentation....and then interpreted from an entirely different world of memories....... Every thing that comes from a sage in not true....... Just ask their spouses....or their teenage daughters......LOL Remember....Ramana told his followers that his cow reached enlightenment. (It is amazing how many ways Ramana addicts try to force that into a reasonalbe package) toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " goldenrainbowrider " <laughterx8@h...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " goldenrainbowrider " > <laughterx8@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > <cptc@w...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you bring the egg and goose to me..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will show you what to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This .......game.........was a taste of what mind does. > > > > It imagines a problem....(egg in a bottle).......and then attemps > to solve it. > > > > It has no problems......only imaginary eggs in bottles. > > > > There never was a goose egg in an unbreakable bottle. > > > > The mind is composed .....of nothing more then............ eggs > and bottles. > > > > Hey Toom, What about this that you've just written above, as well as most of the other pages and pages of posts here attempting to define 'dying to oneself' and its offshoots, is not the continuing quest to provide comfort to oneself about " how things are " how it is, way to be, dude? -- something to provide some resting place or sense of having something figured out. That is what all of it does, no matter how non-dual it sounds. Honestly, it sounds like some are trying to convince themselves of something that if they really, truly knew it, would not even think of to say it. But, I suppose that that movement, too, is not out of place. I think that the best any of the top guns like Niz or JC were doing, or could do, at most, was to point a 'way'.... speak poetically and in koans, and saying, in effect, don't try to have philosophies, instead, make up your own damn mind each second and then finally, goodbye and Good Luck!, you are on your own. ~freyja > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > --------------------------- > > and yet......... > > you continue................. > > to play................ > > and yet........... > > you continue............. > > to deny that you are............ > > I guess only you know why. > > ~G. > ---- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@c...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > >This .......game.........was a taste of what mind does. > > > > > > > > > >It imagines a problem....(egg in a bottle).......and then attemps to > > > > >solve it. > > > > > > > > > >It has no problems......only imaginary eggs in bottles. > > > > > > > > > >There never was a goose egg in an unbreakable bottle. > > > > > > > > > >The mind is composed .....of nothing more then............ eggs and > > > > >bottles. > > > > > > > > And how beautifully, how richly it is composed. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is inclined to be a bit grandiose in its own self-assessment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there anything > > > > wrong about it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No. > > > > > > There can be nothing wrong in something that exists only as an ides. > > > > > > > > > > > > It represents the way we live our lifes. We should let > > > > it flow, allow it to be its very nature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " We " are not independent of the " mind " . > > > > > > The " we " .....(I am) is the reselt of conceptualization.....not its > > source. > > > > > > It flows......regardless of what we think we choose. > > > > > > > > > > > > Only then we might be able go > > > > beyond it. > > > > > > > > S. > > > > > > > > > > > > We are mind-stuff. > > > > > > Nothing can go beyond itself. > > > > Thinking is not the highest state for humanity according to Eckhart > > Tolle. If he is correct, then evolution itself can go beyind itself; > > it can evolve. To make what Tolle said more clear, let me add: he is > > not talking about removing the ability to think, thoughts can operate > > beautifully in this new state of awareness, he says. > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > The mentation that flows from the mouth of one who has experienced his own vacuity is drawn from with his own accumulated mentation....and then interpreted from an entirely different world of memories....... > > Every thing that comes from a sage in not true....... > > Just ask their spouses....or their teenage daughters......LOL > > Remember....Ramana told his followers that his cow reached enlightenment. > > > > (It is amazing how many ways Ramana addicts try to force that into a reasonalbe package) > > > > > toombaru Maybe Ramana simply was joking when he told his followers about his enlightened cow. :-] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " carolina112900 " <freyjartist@a...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " goldenrainbowrider " > <laughterx8@h...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " goldenrainbowrider " > > <laughterx8@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > > <cptc@w...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you bring the egg and goose to me..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will show you what to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This .......game.........was a taste of what mind does. > > > > > > It imagines a problem....(egg in a bottle).......and then > attemps > > to solve it. > > > > > > It has no problems......only imaginary eggs in bottles. > > > > > > There never was a goose egg in an unbreakable bottle. > > > > > > The mind is composed .....of nothing more then............ eggs > > and bottles. > > > > > > > > Hey Toom, > > What about this that you've just written > above, as well as most of the other > pages and pages of posts here attempting to > define 'dying to oneself' and its offshoots, > is not the continuing quest to provide > comfort to oneself about " how things are " > how it is, way to be, dude? -- > something to provide some resting place > or sense of having something figured out. > > That is what all of it does, no matter how > non-dual it sounds. Honestly, it sounds > like some are trying to convince themselves > of something that if they really, truly > knew it, would not even think of to say > it. > > But, I suppose that that movement, > too, is not out of place. > > I think that the best any of the top guns > like Niz or JC were doing, or could do, > at most, was to point a 'way'.... > speak poetically and in koans, > and saying, in effect, > don't try to have philosophies, instead, > make up your own damn mind each second > and then finally, goodbye and Good Luck!, > you are on your own. > > ~freyja > Freyja, Didn't I tell you....I don't like people peeking under my dress? toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > --------------------------- > > > > and yet......... > > > > you continue................. > > > > to play................ > > > > and yet........... > > > > you continue............. > > > > to deny that you are............ > > > > I guess only you know why. > > > > ~G. > > ---- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " > <s.petersilge@c...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " > <cptc@w...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >This .......game.........was a taste of what mind does. > > > > > > > > > > > >It imagines a problem....(egg in a bottle).......and then > attemps to > > > > > >solve it. > > > > > > > > > > > >It has no problems......only imaginary eggs in bottles. > > > > > > > > > > > >There never was a goose egg in an unbreakable bottle. > > > > > > > > > > > >The mind is composed .....of nothing more then............ > eggs and > > > > > >bottles. > > > > > > > > > > And how beautifully, how richly it is composed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is inclined to be a bit grandiose in its own self-assessment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there anything > > > > > wrong about it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No. > > > > > > > > There can be nothing wrong in something that exists only as an ides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It represents the way we live our lifes. We should let > > > > > it flow, allow it to be its very nature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " We " are not independent of the " mind " . > > > > > > > > The " we " .....(I am) is the reselt of conceptualization.....not its > > > source. > > > > > > > > It flows......regardless of what we think we choose. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only then we might be able go > > > > > beyond it. > > > > > > > > > > S. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are mind-stuff. > > > > > > > > Nothing can go beyond itself. > > > > > > Thinking is not the highest state for humanity according to Eckhart > > > Tolle. If he is correct, then evolution itself can go beyind itself; > > > it can evolve. To make what Tolle said more clear, let me add: he is > > > not talking about removing the ability to think, thoughts can operate > > > beautifully in this new state of awareness, he says. > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > The mentation that flows from the mouth of one who has experienced > his own vacuity is drawn from with his own accumulated > mentation....and then interpreted from an entirely different world of > memories....... > > > > Every thing that comes from a sage in not true....... > > > > Just ask their spouses....or their teenage daughters......LOL > > > > Remember....Ramana told his followers that his cow reached > enlightenment. > > > > > > > > (It is amazing how many ways Ramana addicts try to force that into a > reasonalbe package) > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > Maybe Ramana simply was joking when he told his followers about his > enlightened cow. :-] That's what I mean......It doesn't occur to them that Ramana was flat out wrong. t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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