Guest guest Posted November 3, 2008 Report Posted November 3, 2008 , Adam Simpson <lunduner1 wrote: > > How does this work Jagbir? Are not going against Sri Mataji by > your views because Sri Mataji has been encouraging all these things > you say we don't need? Are you suggesting she has not been accurate > with everything perhaps? and some things we have to dissect for > ourselves? > Dear Adam, i have come a long way from that all-consuming catch culture of our SY collectives. i have experienced for years that it is possible to be catch-free and have vibrations flowing from both hands 24/7, provided you leave it entirely to the Mother Kundalini: " Kundalini will rise and She will cleanse you completely. Kundalini will rise and always cleanse the chakras. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Sydney, Australia, March 31, 1991 For the majority of SYs that is not possible and i must be making it up. As new SYs are made to believe: " You can never be catch-free " , i guess i must be lying that the Mother Kundalini is capable of ridding all catches. And Shri Mataji must be too! Otherwise how did the 1001 treatments of SYSSR come into being, and what was their need if the Mother Kundalini will rise and always cleanse the chakras? " All these (chakra cleansing) rituals have entered into Sahaja Yoga. I got somebody in France with the list of the (subtle system) treatments of Vashi hospital. But that was for sick peoples. This is the nature of human being to follow the rituals because he thinks that he can do it. " Shri Mataji, 25 December 1997, Christmas Puja, India i have repeatedly explained that SYs have corrupted Her teachings and made the SYSSReligion out of them. Yet there is no end to foolish SYs going against Her because it " is the nature of human being to follow the rituals because he thinks that he can do it. " Adam, i hope you did listen to 1980-4-12 Easter Puja part 4/4. After listening to it, you should be abe to give up all your foolish ideas about your seeking through the SYSSReligion, a seeking that has mislead you and is keeping many away from Resurrection: " It is just for money and power are some people, who are trying to mislead others, keeping them away from Resurrection. I must say they are committing the greatest sin against the Holy Ghost. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Public Program, Brussels, Belgium, 1 July 1993 " But now give up all nonsensical ideas about your seeking and useless ramblings Seeking means not knowing about anything but becoming something. For that, Christ crucified Himself. He resurrected Himself so that you all could be resurrected, so you have to, today, thank Him for giving you the lead of resurrection and in this lifetime only, you are going to be resurrected and you are going to see, with your own eyes, your resurrection as the disciples saw the resurrection of Christ. This is being all promised and this must happen to all of you. So we should rejoice and be happy that the time has come for the resurrection and such a great event we are facing. We are such a people-give up our small visions and our petty hankerings, our small little lives in which we live like frogs. Expand yourself and think that today you are facing the drama of mass resurrection, not only that, but you are maneuvering it. So rejoice and be happy that what Christ did 2,000 years back, today we are going to do it. That's why Easter is a special day for all of us. It really is a very special day because in our lives the death has died and we are resurrected. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi ------------------------ Adam, before i reply please listen to 1980-4-12 Easter Puja part 4/4 How does this work Jagbir? Are not going against Sri Mataji by your views because Sri Mataji has been encouraging all these things you say we don't need? Are you suggesting she has not been accurate with everything perhaps? and some things we have to dissect for ourselves? But you are right though. Most people I have ever brought to the programs do not really want to go to pujas or take part in the external rituals- first reactions from people are usually along the lines of 'is this really necessary?'. They kind of just go along with it after some sweet talking - and eventually without knowing it become brainwashed into it I suspect- I know this might sound harsh to some people - just a viewpoint to consider. Even me, I felt I was expected to go with the rest of the sheep otherwise I would not really be welcome at the meetings. I am not saying there is no self gain by these rituals etc but I think they are just keeping sahaja yoga a small sect - problem is, when you're in there living it, ofcourse you don't see it as a sect. I still believe sahaja yoga can be extremely unhealthy for some peoples minds because of all the things Jagbir has mentioned. My first few weeks were great until all the other stuff got introduced to me gradually confusing me. Few more months down the line I started to feel disturbed. The superstition in sahaj needs to be eradicated quickly if we are to attract more people and stop them from deteriorating psychologically. Some people at these meetings carry on like they are qualified mental health practitioners or doctors haha.....and the scary part is they don't even realize it half the time. They issue out all kinds of advice to people with serious conditions they themselves have never experienced.. leading them on to believe their ridiculous treatments will make a major difference...even cure you. It is a struggle for them to recommend a doctor or someone who doesn't have a cool breeze emitting from somewhere. Better to take advice from someone with some cool breeze and no qualifications than someone with no cool breeze but a lifetime of professional medical experience. Right, better foot-soak with some salt. Quote
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