Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2009 Hi All, Like to ask a question and view the reply of members. Can Hindus eat beef? Is it just a tradition or has it got any spiritual implications(if so, what are they?) Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 25, 2009 Tulasi, This was one question that has been bugging me too. There are apparently references in the vedas where meant eating is considered " ok " . This was pointed out by Swami vivekananda who is said to eaten beef when he came to America. It was later evolution of the hindu religion than bought in the sacred nature of the cow and forbidding of meat consumption.. Ofcourse this is info is just hearsay. I'd like to know the opinions of others on this. Bob --- On Fri, 4/24/09, Tulasi <thundergod999 wrote: Tulasi <thundergod999 Like to ask a question and view the reply of members. Can Hindus eat beef? Is it just a tradition or has it got any spiritual implications( if so, what are they?) Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 25, 2009 " Hinduism " doesn't encourage or proscribe eating meat. However Its better to be a pure vegetarian and not single out Cow for the special treatment. On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Robert Partick <robertpartickwrote: > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 26, 2009 Namaste Hindus can eat whatever they wish, but as they attempt to reach moksha which is the goal in Hinduism or as they attempt to reach liberation, they find that a life of compassion is incongruous with eating animals. I slowly became vegetarian except that I ate fish. I had nightmares about fish, but I still ate shrimp.� I had the most horrific nightmare about shrimp and I could not bear to eat them either. I am slowly giving up eating dairy products as well, mostly because in my middle age it does not set well with my constitution. Environmentally, eating meat is like driving an SUV.� Meat eating is not very good for health. Take a look at American Seventh Day Adventists who are vegetarian. In Hindu culture, the cow is considered sacred. Hindus have traditionally respected animals that served civilization, and are treated with great care. Hope that helps. Shanti Om, Shankari Enquire: 'Who am I?' and you will find the answer. Look at a tree: from one seed arises a huge tree; from it comes numerous seeds, each one of which in its turn grows into a tree. No two fruits are alike. Yet it is one life that throbs in every particle of the tree. So, it is the same Atman everywhere. --Sri Anandamayi Ma http://shankarikali.wordpress.com/ --- On Fri, 4/24/09, Tulasi <thundergod999 wrote: Tulasi <thundergod999 Can Hindus eat beef? Is it just a tradition or has it got any spiritual implications( if so, what are they?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 26, 2009 Om Namaha Shivaya Shri Matre Namaha It's quite easy to understand whether beef eating is ok or not, if one understands what Lord Krishna told us through Bhagwat Gita. There are 3 gunas/quality of human beings - Thamogun (rustic/inactive nature ), Rajogun( hyper-active nature) and Satvagun (righteous nature) . How the Gunas /qualities are formed? By the kind of food that we eat. If one wants to tread the path of righteousness and spiritualism, one has to avoid meat - be it beef or otherwise. Regards Ravi On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Shankari Kali <shankari_kaliwrote: > > > Namaste > > Hindus can eat whatever they wish, but as they attempt to reach moksha > which is the goal in Hinduism or as they attempt to reach liberation, they > find that a life of compassion is incongruous with eating animals. > > I slowly became vegetarian except that I ate fish. I had nightmares about > fish, but I still ate shrimp.� I had the most horrific nightmare about > shrimp and I could not bear to eat them either. > > I am slowly giving up eating dairy products as well, mostly because in my > middle age it does not set well with my constitution. > > Environmentally, eating meat is like driving an SUV.� Meat eating is not > very good for health. Take a look at American Seventh Day Adventists who are > vegetarian. > > In Hindu culture, the cow is considered sacred. Hindus have traditionally > respected animals that served civilization, and are treated with great care. > > Hope that helps. > > Shanti Om, > Shankari > > Enquire: 'Who am I?' and you will find the answer. Look at a tree: from one > seed arises a huge tree; from it comes numerous seeds, each one of which in > its turn grows into a tree. No two fruits are alike. Yet it is one life that > throbs in every particle of the tree. So, it is the same Atman everywhere. > --Sri Anandamayi Ma > > http://shankarikali.wordpress.com/ > > --- On Fri, 4/24/09, Tulasi <thundergod999<thundergod999%40>> > wrote: > > Tulasi <thundergod999 <thundergod999%40>> > > Can Hindus eat beef? > > Is it just a tradition or has it got any spiritual implications( if so, > what are they?) > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 26, 2009 The *cow* is respected and worshipped as the manifestation of 'the mother goddess' ,sri bhooma devi as sited in the srimad bhagavatam. even today in many temples, one can witness ,the 'go puja'[the holy cow worship ] and the gaja puja[the temple elephant worship] :in the suprabhat seva, the lord is first worshipped by these two respected souls first and then only the devotees are let in for the darshan! --- On Sun, 26/4/09, Ravi (New Zealand) Iyer <iyerlaw wrote: Ravi (New Zealand) Iyer <iyerlaw Re: beef Sunday, 26 April, 2009, 9:00 AM Om Namaha Shivaya Shri Matre Namaha It's quite easy to understand whether beef eating is ok or not, if one understands what Lord Krishna told us through Bhagwat Gita. There are 3 gunas/quality of human beings - Thamogun (rustic/inactive nature ), Rajogun( hyper-active nature) and Satvagun (righteous nature) . How the Gunas /qualities are formed? By the kind of food that we eat. If one wants to tread the path of righteousness and spiritualism, one has to avoid meat - be it beef or otherwise. Regards Ravi On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Shankari Kali <shankari_kali@ >wrote: > > > Namaste > > Hindus can eat whatever they wish, but as they attempt to reach moksha > which is the goal in Hinduism or as they attempt to reach liberation, they > find that a life of compassion is incongruous with eating animals. > > I slowly became vegetarian except that I ate fish. I had nightmares about > fish, but I still ate shrimp.� I had the most horrific nightmare about > shrimp and I could not bear to eat them either. > > I am slowly giving up eating dairy products as well, mostly because in my > middle age it does not set well with my constitution. > > Environmentally, eating meat is like driving an SUV.� Meat eating is not > very good for health. Take a look at American Seventh Day Adventists who are > vegetarian. > > In Hindu culture, the cow is considered sacred. Hindus have traditionally > respected animals that served civilization, and are treated with great care. > > Hope that helps. > > Shanti Om, > Shankari > > Enquire: 'Who am I?' and you will find the answer. Look at a tree: from one > seed arises a huge tree; from it comes numerous seeds, each one of which in > its turn grows into a tree. No two fruits are alike. Yet it is one life that > throbs in every particle of the tree. So, it is the same Atman everywhere. > --Sri Anandamayi Ma > > http://shankarikali .wordpress. com/ > > --- On Fri, 4/24/09, Tulasi <thundergod999@ <thundergod999% 40> > > wrote: > > Tulasi <thundergod999@ <thundergod999% 40> > > > Can Hindus eat beef? > > Is it just a tradition or has it got any spiritual implications( if so, > what are they?) > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 26, 2009 Thanks for the reply, Interesting perspectives. I agree that being vegetarian is good for spirituality. I personally felt a sence of wellbeing when I was a vegetarian for a month. I believe it may be the absence of toxins in meat that caused this wellbeing. But my query pertains to the popular belief that hindus can eat all meat except beef. Sometime ago, i watched a programme on TV of a temple in india where the temple were filled with live rats. Evidently the rats in the temple enjoyed a elevated spiritual status. They were well fed and well nutured. They had a godly status. But in the streets probably everywhere else, rats are slaughtered because they bring plague. The same goes with cobra snakes. On one hand, they enjoy elevated spiritual status but ironically killed because they kill people. The same goes with eating beef. Many hindus do not eat beef because of a elevated status but ironically people use leather products like watchstraps, shoes, belts, bags ........... I know a clan of hindus who eat beef and it seems that for generations these people have been eating beef. It is as though there is no conection between eating beef and spirituality. My suspicion is that eating or not eating beef depends on ones personal belief. If u think its wrong ,its wrong. if u think it right , its ok. Can anybody agree to this or any other views? .................................................................................\ ....................................................... > The *cow* is respected and worshipped as the manifestation of 'the mother goddess' ,sri bhooma devi as sited in the srimad bhagavatam. > even today in many temples, one can witness ,the 'go puja'[the holy cow worship ] and the gaja puja[the temple elephant worship] :in the suprabhat seva, the lord is first worshipped by these two respected souls first and then only the devotees are let in for the darshan! > > > > --- On Sun, 26/4/09, Ravi (New Zealand) Iyer <iyerlaw wrote: > > Ravi (New Zealand) Iyer <iyerlaw > > It's quite easy to understand whether beef eating is ok or not, if one > > understands what Lord Krishna told us through Bhagwat Gita. > > There are 3 gunas/quality of human beings - Thamogun (rustic/inactive > > nature ), Rajogun( hyper-active nature) and Satvagun (righteous nature) . > > How the Gunas /qualities are formed? By the kind of food that we eat. > > > If one wants to tread the path of righteousness and spiritualism, one has to > > avoid meat - be it beef or otherwise. > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Shankari Kali <shankari_kali@ >wrote: > > > > Hindus can eat whatever they wish, but as they attempt to reach moksha > > > which is the goal in Hinduism or as they attempt to reach liberation, they > > > find that a life of compassion is incongruous with eating animals. > >> > > --- On Fri, 4/24/09, Tulasi <thundergod999@ <thundergod999% 40> > > > > > Can Hindus eat beef? > > > > > > Is it just a tradition or has it got any spiritual implications( if so, > > > what are they?) > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 26, 2009 All these are traditional views and personal likes and dislikes. Is it not? Then how do u explain the cooking of beef in pit fires in Bharadwaja ashrama when Rama was recieved on his way back from Lanka after victory over Rama? May the wise explain? Aravindan Viswanathan <the_thornbird_16 Re: beef Sunday, April 26, 2009, 12:41 PM The *cow* is respected and worshipped as the manifestation of 'the mother goddess' ,sri bhooma devi as sited in the srimad bhagavatam. even today in many temples, one can witness ,the 'go puja'[the holy cow worship ] and the gaja puja[the temple elephant worship] :in the suprabhat seva, the lord is first worshipped by these two respected souls first and then only the devotees are let in for the darshan! --- On Sun, 26/4/09, Ravi (New Zealand) Iyer <iyerlaw (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Ravi (New Zealand) Iyer <iyerlaw (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: beef Sunday, 26 April, 2009, 9:00 AM Om Namaha Shivaya Shri Matre Namaha It's quite easy to understand whether beef eating is ok or not, if one understands what Lord Krishna told us through Bhagwat Gita. There are 3 gunas/quality of human beings - Thamogun (rustic/inactive nature ), Rajogun( hyper-active nature) and Satvagun (righteous nature) . How the Gunas /qualities are formed? By the kind of food that we eat. If one wants to tread the path of righteousness and spiritualism, one has to avoid meat - be it beef or otherwise. Regards Ravi On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Shankari Kali <shankari_kali@ >wrote: > > > Namaste > > Hindus can eat whatever they wish, but as they attempt to reach moksha > which is the goal in Hinduism or as they attempt to reach liberation, they > find that a life of compassion is incongruous with eating animals. > > I slowly became vegetarian except that I ate fish. I had nightmares about > fish, but I still ate shrimp.� I had the most horrific nightmare about > shrimp and I could not bear to eat them either. > > I am slowly giving up eating dairy products as well, mostly because in my > middle age it does not set well with my constitution. > > Environmentally, eating meat is like driving an SUV.� Meat eating is not > very good for health. Take a look at American Seventh Day Adventists who are > vegetarian. > > In Hindu culture, the cow is considered sacred. Hindus have traditionally > respected animals that served civilization, and are treated with great care. > > Hope that helps. > > Shanti Om, > Shankari > > Enquire: 'Who am I?' and you will find the answer. Look at a tree: from one > seed arises a huge tree; from it comes numerous seeds, each one of which in > its turn grows into a tree. No two fruits are alike. Yet it is one life that > throbs in every particle of the tree. So, it is the same Atman everywhere. > --Sri Anandamayi Ma > > http://shankarikali .wordpress. com/ > > --- On Fri, 4/24/09, Tulasi <thundergod999@ <thundergo d999% 40> > > wrote: > > Tulasi <thundergod999@ <thundergod999% 40> > > > Can Hindus eat beef? > > Is it just a tradition or has it got any spiritual implications( if so, > what are they?) > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 26, 2009 Here is Swami Vivekananda's thoughts on the same...as Sankarkji mentioned its a question of choices and other traditions that evovled for practical reasons.... Of late, there has been a great controversy over whether Brahmins ate beef in the Vedic times. Let us listen to what Swami Vivekananda, one of the most illustrious savants of India, has to say on the subject. His words would set at rest all sorts pf doubts and misgivings of people who still believe that facts are sacred even though opinions might differ. Swami Vivekananda said: " You have always to remember that because a little social custom is going to be changed, you are not going to lose your religion, not at all. Remember these customs have already been changed. There was a time in this very India when, without eating beef, no Brahmin could remain a Brahmin ; you read in the Vedas how, when a sanyasin, a king, or a great man came into a house, the best bullock was killed, how in time it was found that as we were an agricultural race, killing the best bulls meant annihilation of the race. Therefore, the practice was stopped, and a voice was raised against the killing of cows... " I do not mean that you should stand up and revile all your old customs and institutions... Revile none. Even those customs that are now appearing to be positive evils have been positively life-giving in times past; and if we have to remove these, we must not do so with curses, but with blessings and gratitude for all glorious work these customs have done for the preservation of our race... " (From Swami Vivekananda's reply to the welcome address at Madurai in 1897, published in Swamiji's Lecture from Colombo to Almora, brought out by the Advaita Ashram in 1997) --- On Sun, 4/26/09, sankara menon <kochu1tz wrote: sankara menon <kochu1tz All these are traditional views and personal likes and dislikes. Is it not? Then how do u explain the cooking of beef in pit fires in Bharadwaja ashrama when Rama was recieved on his way back from Lanka after victory over Rama? May the wise explain? Aravindan Viswanathan <the_thornbird_ 16 (AT) (DOT) co.in> The *cow* is respected and worshipped as the manifestation of 'the mother goddess' ,sri bhooma devi as sited in the srimad bhagavatam. even today in many temples, one can witness ,the 'go puja'[the holy cow worship ] and the gaja puja[the temple elephant worship] :in the suprabhat seva, the lord is first worshipped by these two respected souls first and then only the devotees are let in for the darshan! --- On Sun, 26/4/09, Ravi (New Zealand) Iyer <iyerlaw (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Ravi (New Zealand) Iyer <iyerlaw (AT) gmail (DOT) com> It's quite easy to understand whether beef eating is ok or not, if one understands what Lord Krishna told us through Bhagwat Gita. There are 3 gunas/quality of human beings - Thamogun (rustic/inactive nature ), Rajogun( hyper-active nature) and Satvagun (righteous nature) . How the Gunas /qualities are formed? By the kind of food that we eat. If one wants to tread the path of righteousness and spiritualism, one has to avoid meat - be it beef or otherwise. Regards Ravi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 26, 2009 Namaste: As Swami Vivekananda explains Vedic culture has changed, and Hinduism is a very adaptive form of spirituality. At one point, animal sacrifice fell out of favor, and meat eating did as well. I thought that this occurred with Lord Krishna, and then continued with Lord Buddha. If this is not accurate, someone please correct me. There are still animal sacrifices in some Devi temples, not all. I believe that they sacrifice goats and some birds, but not cows. Cows may be sacrificed in Nepal, however. I'm not sure about that. Anyway, considering the environmental impact of excessive meat eating, I would think that it would be appropriate to at least reduce one's meat eating. Shanti Om, Shankari Here is Swami Vivekananda' s thoughts on the same...as Sankarkji mentioned its a question of choices and other traditions that evovled for practical reasons.... Of late, there has been a great controversy over whether Brahmins ate beef in the Vedic times. Let us listen to what Swami Vivekananda, one of the most illustrious savants of India, has to say on the subject. His words would set at rest all sorts pf doubts and misgivings of people who still believe that facts are sacred even though opinions might differ. Swami Vivekananda said: " You have always to remember that because a little social custom is going to be changed, you are not going to lose your religion, not at all. Remember these customs have already been changed. There was a time in this very India when, without eating beef, no Brahmin could remain a Brahmin ; you read in the Vedas how, when a sanyasin, a king, or a great man came into a house, the best bullock was killed, how in time it was found that as we were an agricultural race, killing the best bulls meant annihilation of the race. Therefore, the practice was stopped, and a voice was raised against the killing of cows... " I do not mean that you should stand up and revile all your old customs and institutions. .. Revile none. Even those customs that are now appearing to be positive evils have been positively life-giving in times past; and if we have to remove these, we must not do so with curses, but with blessings and gratitude for all glorious work these customs have done for the preservation of our race... " (From Swami Vivekananda' s reply to the welcome address at Madurai in 1897, published in Swamiji's Lecture from Colombo to Almora, brought out by the Advaita Ashram in 1997) --- On Sun, 4/26/09, sankara menon <kochu1tz > wrote: sankara menon <kochu1tz > All these are traditional views and personal likes and dislikes. Is it not? Then how do u explain the cooking of beef in pit fires in Bharadwaja ashrama when Rama was recieved on his way back from Lanka after victory over Rama? May the wise explain? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 26, 2009 Nepalese sacrifice buffaloes On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Shankari Kali <shankari_kaliwrote: > > > Namaste: > > As Swami Vivekananda explains Vedic culture has changed, and Hinduism is a > very adaptive form of spirituality. > > At one point, animal sacrifice fell out of favor, and meat eating did as > well. I thought that this occurred with Lord Krishna, and then continued > with Lord Buddha. If this is not accurate, someone please correct me. > > There are still animal sacrifices in some Devi temples, not all. I believe > that they sacrifice goats and some birds, but not cows. Cows may be > sacrificed in Nepal, however. I'm not sure about that. > > Anyway, considering the environmental impact of excessive meat eating, I > would think that it would be appropriate to at least reduce one's meat > eating. > > Shanti Om, > Shankari > > > Here is Swami Vivekananda' s thoughts on the same...as Sankarkji mentioned > its a question of choices and other traditions that evovled for practical > reasons.... > > Of late, there has been a great controversy over whether Brahmins ate beef > in the Vedic times. Let us listen to what Swami Vivekananda, one of the most > illustrious savants of India, has to say on the subject. > > His words would set at rest all sorts pf doubts and misgivings of people > who still believe that facts are sacred even though opinions might differ. > > Swami Vivekananda said: " You have always to remember that because a little > social custom is going to be changed, you are not going to lose your > religion, not at all. Remember these customs have already been changed. > There was a time in this very India when, without eating beef, no Brahmin > could remain a Brahmin ; you read in the Vedas how, when a sanyasin, a king, > or a great man came into a house, the best bullock was killed, how in time > it was found that as we were an agricultural race, killing the best bulls > meant annihilation of the race. Therefore, the practice was stopped, and a > voice was raised against the killing of cows... > > " I do not mean that you should stand up and revile all your old customs and > institutions. .. Revile none. Even those customs that are now appearing to > be positive evils have been positively life-giving in times past; and if we > have to remove these, we must not do so with curses, but with blessings and > gratitude for all glorious work these customs have done for the preservation > of our race... " > > (From Swami Vivekananda' s reply to the welcome address at Madurai in 1897, > published in Swamiji's Lecture from Colombo to Almora, brought out by the > Advaita Ashram in 1997) > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 26, 2009 JAI MAA, The Importance of Cows in Nepal: Cows are worshiped in Nepal, killing a cow is worse than murder of a human being. During Sharad Navratri, one day is dedicated to Cows; it is call GAI JATRA, meaning procession of cows. The cow gives us milk, without which we cannot survive. From birth, we depend on milk for our good health and our survival. For the first 3 months, we drink the milk of the cow through our mother and then directly for the rest of our lives. How can you kill a mother, which nourishes you with good health for life? Hindus regard all living creatures as sacred: mammals, fishes, birds and more. We acknowledge this reverence for life in our special affection for the cow. At festivals we decorate and honor her, but we do not worship her in the sense that we worship the Deity. To the Hindu, the cow symbolizes all other creatures. The cow is a symbol of the Earth, the nourisher, the ever-giving, undemanding provider. The cow represents life and the sustenance of life. The cow is so generous, taking nothing but water, grass and grain. It gives and gives and gives of its milk, as does the liberated soul give of his spiritual knowledge. The cow is so vital to life, the virtual sustainer of life, for many humans. The cow is a symbol of grace and abundance. Veneration of the cow instills in Hindus the virtues of gentleness, receptivity and connectedness with nature. Vegetarianism: Many Hindus follow a vegetarian diet. This practice relates to the Hindu principle of ahimsa, non-injury to all living things (sometimes referred to as non-violence). It is also reflected in laws of karma and dharma. By involving oneself in the cycle of inflicting injury, pain and death, even indirectly by eating other creatures, one must in the future experience in equal measure the suffering caused. If you eat animals now, you build bad karma, which will result in punishment in the future. This is guaranteed. The law of Karma is a reality. Gururbrahmaa gururvishnuh gururdevo Maheswarah | Guruh-saakshaat parabrahma tasmai shrigurave namah || Om, Rajyalaxmi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 26, 2009 The�reference to Swami Vivekananda's speech is a�deep and meaningful insight to the practicality of spiritualism�as emerged�in the Indus civilization. As the society evovles and impact of�human actions/deeds on�balance of nature for sustaining continued life on this planet is recognized, the practices keep changing without losing the essence of spirituality and God Consciousness. Last month I remember seeing an article in news about the impact of millions of cows in India on environment and warming climate in India. The article said that the gas released by these cows contained so much methane that significant amount of carbon monoxide was�released into�atmosphere that contributes to�atmospheric heating. Could this mean, people starting to eat beef can minimize the warming effect? Let's not loose sight of the fact that " Mentally it is very easy to accept giving up eating meat, but�for a vegetarian to start eating meat�based on any logical reasoning is very challenging and difficult. " The best�fact to accept here is: Each one of us follow what�we are mentally comfortable without blaming or finding fault with�other's practices.�Even moreso is for us to follow what our kula practice is. If Brahmins�Kula practice�prohibits meat�eating,�then follow it. If�a�Kula accepts meat eating,�let them follow it. But as a�True Saadhaka, forget not to�recognize Shakti in everyone and everything around. I am very much enjoying and learning through these discussions.�Different thoughts, ideas, philosophies and references to Great sayings.�This is a collective learning and growing. Excellent work Saadhakaas. Let's keep�such�questions and discussions going. � At Mother's Lotus Feet, Shakti Thondan To receive the Light of Supreme Power visit http://www.sakthiolhi.org ________________________________ Shankari Kali <shankari_kali As Swami Vivekananda explains Vedic culture has changed, and Hinduism is a very adaptive form of spirituality. [....] Here is Swami Vivekananda' s thoughts on the same...as Sankarkji mentioned its a question of choices and other traditions that evovled for practical reasons.... Of late, there has been a great controversy over whether Brahmins ate beef in the Vedic times. Let us listen to what Swami Vivekananda, one of the most illustrious savants of India, has to say on the subject. His words would set at rest all sorts pf doubts and misgivings of people who still believe that facts are sacred even though opinions might differ. Swami Vivekananda said: " You have always to remember that because a little social custom is going to be changed, you are not going to lose your religion, not at all. Remember these customs have already been changed. There was a time in this very India when, without eating beef, no Brahmin could remain a Brahmin ; you read in the Vedas how, when a sanyasin, a king, or a great man came into a house, the best bullock was killed, how in time it was found that as we were an agricultural race, killing the best bulls meant annihilation of the race. Therefore, the practice was stopped, and a voice was raised against the killing of cows... " I do not mean that you should stand up and revile all your old customs and institutions. .. Revile none. Even those customs that are now appearing to be positive evils have been positively life-giving in times past; and if we have to remove these, we must not do so with curses, but with blessings and gratitude for all glorious work these customs have done for the preservation of our race... " (From Swami Vivekananda' s reply to the welcome address at Madurai in 1897, published in Swamiji's Lecture from Colombo to Almora, brought out by the Advaita Ashram in 1997) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 28, 2009 thank you. Thats more authoritative than poor ol me --- On Sun, 4/26/09, Robert Partick <robertpartick wrote: Robert Partick <robertpartick Re: beef Sunday, April 26, 2009, 11:00 PM Here is Swami Vivekananda' s thoughts on the same...as Sankarkji mentioned its a question of choices and other traditions that evovled for practical reasons.... Of late, there has been a great controversy over whether Brahmins ate beef in the Vedic times. Let us listen to what Swami Vivekananda, one of the most illustrious savants of India, has to say on the subject. His words would set at rest all sorts pf doubts and misgivings of people who still believe that facts are sacred even though opinions might differ. Swami Vivekananda said: " You have always to remember that because a little social custom is going to be changed, you are not going to lose your religion, not at all. Remember these customs have already been changed. There was a time in this very India when, without eating beef, no Brahmin could remain a Brahmin ; you read in the Vedas how, when a sanyasin, a king, or a great man came into a house, the best bullock was killed, how in time it was found that as we were an agricultural race, killing the best bulls meant annihilation of the race. Therefore, the practice was stopped, and a voice was raised against the killing of cows... " I do not mean that you should stand up and revile all your old customs and institutions. .. Revile none. Even those customs that are now appearing to be positive evils have been positively life-giving in times past; and if we have to remove these, we must not do so with curses, but with blessings and gratitude for all glorious work these customs have done for the preservation of our race... " (From Swami Vivekananda' s reply to the welcome address at Madurai in 1897, published in Swamiji's Lecture from Colombo to Almora, brought out by the Advaita Ashram in 1997) --- On Sun, 4/26/09, sankara menon <kochu1tz > wrote: sankara menon <kochu1tz > All these are traditional views and personal likes and dislikes. Is it not? Then how do u explain the cooking of beef in pit fires in Bharadwaja ashrama when Rama was recieved on his way back from Lanka after victory over Rama? May the wise explain? Aravindan Viswanathan <the_thornbird_ 16 (AT) (DOT) co.in> The *cow* is respected and worshipped as the manifestation of 'the mother goddess' ,sri bhooma devi as sited in the srimad bhagavatam. even today in many temples, one can witness ,the 'go puja'[the holy cow worship ] and the gaja puja[the temple elephant worship] :in the suprabhat seva, the lord is first worshipped by these two respected souls first and then only the devotees are let in for the darshan! --- On Sun, 26/4/09, Ravi (New Zealand) Iyer <iyerlaw (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Ravi (New Zealand) Iyer <iyerlaw (AT) gmail (DOT) com> It's quite easy to understand whether beef eating is ok or not, if one understands what Lord Krishna told us through Bhagwat Gita. There are 3 gunas/quality of human beings - Thamogun (rustic/inactive nature ), Rajogun( hyper-active nature) and Satvagun (righteous nature) . How the Gunas /qualities are formed? By the kind of food that we eat. If one wants to tread the path of righteousness and spiritualism, one has to avoid meat - be it beef or otherwise. Regards Ravi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 28, 2009 The issue has no spiritual basis see vivekananda quoted below. Physically it maybe better to avoid red meat especially considering that Indians are genetically prone to heart attack. Thats it. --- On Sun, 4/26/09, Tulasi <thundergod999 wrote: Tulasi <thundergod999 Re: beef Sunday, April 26, 2009, 8:57 PM Thanks for the reply, Interesting perspectives. I agree that being vegetarian is good for spirituality. I personally felt a sence of wellbeing when I was a vegetarian for a month. I believe it may be the absence of toxins in meat that caused this wellbeing. But my query pertains to the popular belief that hindus can eat all meat except beef. Sometime ago, i watched a programme on TV of a temple in india where the temple were filled with live rats. Evidently the rats in the temple enjoyed a elevated spiritual status. They were well fed and well nutured. They had a godly status. But in the streets probably everywhere else, rats are slaughtered because they bring plague. The same goes with cobra snakes. On one hand, they enjoy elevated spiritual status but ironically killed because they kill people. The same goes with eating beef. Many hindus do not eat beef because of a elevated status but ironically people use leather products like watchstraps, shoes, belts, bags ........... I know a clan of hindus who eat beef and it seems that for generations these people have been eating beef. It is as though there is no conection between eating beef and spirituality. My suspicion is that eating or not eating beef depends on ones personal belief. If u think its wrong ,its wrong. if u think it right , its ok. Can anybody agree to this or any other views? ............. ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... .......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ..... > The *cow* is respected and worshipped as the manifestation of 'the mother goddess' ,sri bhooma devi as sited in the srimad bhagavatam. > even today in many temples, one can witness ,the 'go puja'[the holy cow worship ] and the gaja puja[the temple elephant worship] :in the suprabhat seva, the lord is first worshipped by these two respected souls first and then only the devotees are let in for the darshan! > > > > --- On Sun, 26/4/09, Ravi (New Zealand) Iyer <iyerlaw > wrote: > > Ravi (New Zealand) Iyer <iyerlaw > > > It's quite easy to understand whether beef eating is ok or not, if one > > understands what Lord Krishna told us through Bhagwat Gita. > > There are 3 gunas/quality of human beings - Thamogun (rustic/inactive > > nature ), Rajogun( hyper-active nature) and Satvagun (righteous nature) . > > How the Gunas /qualities are formed? By the kind of food that we eat. > > > If one wants to tread the path of righteousness and spiritualism, one has to > > avoid meat - be it beef or otherwise. > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Shankari Kali <shankari_kali@ >wrote: > > > > Hindus can eat whatever they wish, but as they attempt to reach moksha > > > which is the goal in Hinduism or as they attempt to reach liberation, they > > > find that a life of compassion is incongruous with eating animals. > >> > > --- On Fri, 4/24/09, Tulasi <thundergod999@ <thundergo d999% 40> > > > > > Can Hindus eat beef? > > > > > > Is it just a tradition or has it got any spiritual implications( if so, > > > what are they?) > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 28, 2009 The issue has no spiritual basis see vivekananda quoted below. Physically it maybe better to avoid red meat especially considering that Indians are genetically prone to heart attack. Thats it. --- On Sun, 4/26/09, Tulasi <thundergod999 wrote: Tulasi <thundergod999 Re: beef Sunday, April 26, 2009, 8:57 PM Thanks for the reply, Interesting perspectives. I agree that being vegetarian is good for spirituality. I personally felt a sence of wellbeing when I was a vegetarian for a month. I believe it may be the absence of toxins in meat that caused this wellbeing. But my query pertains to the popular belief that hindus can eat all meat except beef. Sometime ago, i watched a programme on TV of a temple in india where the temple were filled with live rats. Evidently the rats in the temple enjoyed a elevated spiritual status. They were well fed and well nutured. They had a godly status. But in the streets probably everywhere else, rats are slaughtered because they bring plague. The same goes with cobra snakes. On one hand, they enjoy elevated spiritual status but ironically killed because they kill people. The same goes with eating beef. Many hindus do not eat beef because of a elevated status but ironically people use leather products like watchstraps, shoes, belts, bags ........... I know a clan of hindus who eat beef and it seems that for generations these people have been eating beef. It is as though there is no conection between eating beef and spirituality. My suspicion is that eating or not eating beef depends on ones personal belief. If u think its wrong ,its wrong. if u think it right , its ok. Can anybody agree to this or any other views? ............. ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... .......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ..... > The *cow* is respected and worshipped as the manifestation of 'the mother goddess' ,sri bhooma devi as sited in the srimad bhagavatam. > even today in many temples, one can witness ,the 'go puja'[the holy cow worship ] and the gaja puja[the temple elephant worship] :in the suprabhat seva, the lord is first worshipped by these two respected souls first and then only the devotees are let in for the darshan! > > > > --- On Sun, 26/4/09, Ravi (New Zealand) Iyer <iyerlaw > wrote: > > Ravi (New Zealand) Iyer <iyerlaw > > > It's quite easy to understand whether beef eating is ok or not, if one > > understands what Lord Krishna told us through Bhagwat Gita. > > There are 3 gunas/quality of human beings - Thamogun (rustic/inactive > > nature ), Rajogun( hyper-active nature) and Satvagun (righteous nature) . > > How the Gunas /qualities are formed? By the kind of food that we eat. > > > If one wants to tread the path of righteousness and spiritualism, one has to > > avoid meat - be it beef or otherwise. > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Shankari Kali <shankari_kali@ >wrote: > > > > Hindus can eat whatever they wish, but as they attempt to reach moksha > > > which is the goal in Hinduism or as they attempt to reach liberation, they > > > find that a life of compassion is incongruous with eating animals. > >> > > --- On Fri, 4/24/09, Tulasi <thundergod999@ <thundergo d999% 40> > > > > > Can Hindus eat beef? > > > > > > Is it just a tradition or has it got any spiritual implications( if so, > > > what are they?) > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 28, 2009 I agree with Sankara Menon's point here. Being non-vegetarian has nothing to do with spirituality. Personally, I gave up eating meat, but not for spiritual purposes, but for health reasons. I still eat good amount of fish as a significant source of protein and certain amino acids. Anything eaten in moderate quantity is not harmful. French eat more fatty food and red meat yet have the lowest rate of heart diseases than even Americans, simply because of their eating habits: 1) Their lunch and dinner is unrushed 2 hour deal and 2)They take red wine along with their foood in moderate quantity. At Mother's Lotus Feet, Shakti Thondan To receive the Light of Supreme Power visit http://www.sakthiolhi.org --- On Tue, 4/28/09, sankara menon <kochu1tz wrote: sankara menon <kochu1tz The issue has no spiritual basis see vivekananda quoted below. Physically it maybe better to avoid red meat especially considering that Indians are genetically prone to heart attack. Thats it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 28, 2009 Thank you for the complement Patrick. I been weighed down by too many complements. --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Robert Partick <robertpartick wrote: Robert Partick <robertpartick Re: beef Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 6:42 PM Well, I was trying to supplement your statement with Swami Vivekananda' s.....If two great men share the same thoughts, it can't be wrong can it??? :-) --- On Tue, 4/28/09, sankara menon <kochu1tz > wrote: sankara menon <kochu1tz > thank you. Thats more authoritative than poor ol me --- On Sun, 4/26/09, Robert Partick <robertpartick@ > wrote: Robert Partick <robertpartick@ > Here is Swami Vivekananda' s thoughts on the same...as Sankarkji mentioned its a question of choices and other traditions that evovled for practical reasons.... Of late, there has been a great controversy over whether Brahmins ate beef in the Vedic times. Let us listen to what Swami Vivekananda, one of the most illustrious savants of India, has to say on the subject. His words would set at rest all sorts pf doubts and misgivings of people who still believe that facts are sacred even though opinions might differ. Swami Vivekananda said: " You have always to remember that because a little social custom is going to be changed, you are not going to lose your religion, not at all. Remember these customs have already been changed. There was a time in this very India when, without eating beef, no Brahmin could remain a Brahmin ; you read in the Vedas how, when a sanyasin, a king, or a great man came into a house, the best bullock was killed, how in time it was found that as we were an agricultural race, killing the best bulls meant annihilation of the race. Therefore, the practice was stopped, and a voice was raised against the killing of cows... " I do not mean that you should stand up and revile all your old customs and institutions. .. Revile none. Even those customs that are now appearing to be positive evils have been positively life-giving in times past; and if we have to remove these, we must not do so with curses, but with blessings and gratitude for all glorious work these customs have done for the preservation of our race... " (From Swami Vivekananda' s reply to the welcome address at Madurai in 1897, published in Swamiji's Lecture from Colombo to Almora, brought out by the Advaita Ashram in 1997) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 28, 2009 I'm surprised at the answers of many of my group friends who are supposed to be heading towards being a spiritual person. I think you need to understand what you are eating here. There is no remorse in the way an animal is killed today. What you see in the supermarket are neat slices or cuts of whatever meat you care to eat but do you stop to think of what kind of treatment may have been meted out to the animals before they are neatly placed in front of you ? Don't act like you people are ignorant of the truth. Enough said maybe you should google and see the harsh reality..... Stop cruelty to animals. The first step to spirituality is not hurting others and respecting animals ...treat them the way you will treat yourself. Rashmi ________________________________ Shakti Thondan <sakthithondan I agree with Sankara Menon's point here. Being non-vegetarian has nothing to do with spirituality. Personally, I gave up eating meat, but not for spiritual purposes, but for health reasons. I still eat good amount of fish as a significant source of protein and certain amino acids. Anything eaten in moderate quantity is not harmful. French eat more fatty food and red meat yet have the lowest rate of heart diseases than even Americans, simply because of their eating habits: 1) Their lunch and dinner is unrushed 2 hour deal and 2)They take red wine along with their foood in moderate quantity. At Mother's Lotus Feet, Shakti Thondan To receive the Light of Supreme Power visit http://www.sakthiol hi.org --- On Tue, 4/28/09, sankara menon <kochu1tz > wrote: sankara menon <kochu1tz > The issue has no spiritual basis see vivekananda quoted below. Physically it maybe better to avoid red meat especially considering that Indians are genetically prone to heart attack. Thats it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 28, 2009 Rashmi, The debate here is primarily about spiritualism and meat consumption. I believe the responses on this group is in no way a sign of apathy or indifference to the plight of animals. It was just underlining the fact that spiritualism is not exclusive to vegetarianism. Please dont misunderstand the groups comments. Bob --- On Tue, 4/28/09, rush ram <rume235 wrote: rush ram <rume235 I'm surprised at the answers of many of my group friends who are supposed to be heading towards being a spiritual person. I think you need to understand what you are eating here. There is no remorse in the way an animal is killed today. What you see in the supermarket are neat slices or cuts of whatever meat you care to eat but do you stop to think of what kind of treatment may have been meted out to the animals before they are neatly placed in front of you ? Don't act like you people are ignorant of the truth. Enough said maybe you should google and see the harsh reality...... Stop cruelty to animals. The first step to spirituality is not hurting others and respecting animals ...treat them the way you will treat yourself.. Rashmi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 29, 2009 Robert Sorry if i sound harsh but what i mean is yes in today's world spiritulism is connected with vegetarianism and avoiding animal products. Decades back the animals were reared in a friendly environment till they were taken to the abattoir . They multiplied naturally not like what goes on today. A pig doesnt live in a farm anymore ..it does know what sweet smelling earth is all about...they are born in " factories " artificially impregnated n are slaughtered after their time is up with even having know what mud and sky is all about. Hen are injected so that they may produce huge eggs which hurt them and make them bleed everytime they lay eggs. Spiritualism is primarily about living your life without intentionally hurting another living things and by consuming meat and using animal products like leather, fur etc u are abbeting violence. Spiritualism does not go hand in hand with violence. I dont wish to debate on this because I will NEVER agree otherwise. I am a hindu ..I have eaten beef and other animal meat and enjoyed it but since the last 3 years since i have completely stopped eating meat n am slowly giving up all animal products like leather goods etc.... I have opened out my eyes to reality and this is an important step towards spiritualism. I dont want to sound like i'm showing off but i must say that a lot of people think i;m in my early or mid 20's whereas i'm in my early 40's. So my friends vegetarianism not only is the first step towards spirituality but also youth Rashmi ________________________________ Robert Partick <robertpartick Wednesday, 29 April, 2009 1:10:41 AM Re: beef Rashmi, The debate here is primarily about spiritualism and meat consumption. I believe the responses on this group is in no way a sign of apathy or indifference to the plight of animals. It was just underlining the fact that spiritualism is not exclusive to vegetarianism. Please dont misunderstand the groups comments. Bob --- On Tue, 4/28/09, rush ram <rume235 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: rush ram <rume235 (AT) (DOT) co.in> I'm surprised at the answers of many of my group friends who are supposed to be heading towards being a spiritual person. I think you need to understand what you are eating here. There is no remorse in the way an animal is killed today. What you see in the supermarket are neat slices or cuts of whatever meat you care to eat but do you stop to think of what kind of treatment may have been meted out to the animals before they are neatly placed in front of you ? Don't act like you people are ignorant of the truth. Enough said maybe you should google and see the harsh reality..... .. Stop cruelty to animals. The first step to spirituality is not hurting others and respecting animals ...treat them the way you will treat yourself.. Rashmi Own a website.Get an unlimited package.Pay next to nothing.*Go to http://in..business./ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 29, 2009 Hmmmmm, discussing eating beef and meat is acceptable or not from an objective perspective is different than stating what one believes in. If one believes in something, then no discussion is needed. Also what one believes in, need not be the same for others. , rush ram <rume235 wrote: > > Robert > Sorry if i sound harsh but what i mean is yes in today's world spiritulism is connected with vegetarianism and avoiding animal products. > Decades back the animals were reared in a friendly environment till they were taken to the abattoir . They multiplied naturally not like what goes on today. A pig doesnt live in a farm anymore ..it does know what sweet smelling earth is all about...they are born in " factories " artificially impregnated n are slaughtered after their time is up with even having know what mud and sky is all about. Hen are injected so that they may produce huge eggs which hurt them and make them bleed everytime they lay eggs. Spiritualism is primarily about living your life without intentionally hurting another living things and by consuming meat and using animal products like leather, fur etc u are abbeting violence. Spiritualism does not go hand in hand with violence. I dont wish to debate on this because I will NEVER agree otherwise. I am a hindu ..I have eaten beef and other animal meat and enjoyed it but since the last 3 years since i have completely stopped > eating meat n am slowly giving up all animal products like leather goods etc.... I have opened out my eyes to reality and this is an important step towards spiritualism. I dont want to sound like i'm showing off but i must say that a lot of people think i;m in my early or mid 20's whereas i'm in my early 40's. So my friends vegetarianism not only is the first step towards spirituality but also youth > Rashmi > > > > > ________________________________ > Robert Partick <robertpartick > > Wednesday, 29 April, 2009 1:10:41 AM > Re: beef > > > > > > Rashmi, > The debate here is primarily about spiritualism and meat consumption. I believe the responses on this group is in no way a sign of apathy or indifference to the plight of animals. It was just underlining the fact that spiritualism is not exclusive to vegetarianism. > Please dont misunderstand the groups comments. > Bob > > --- On Tue, 4/28/09, rush ram <rume235 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > rush ram <rume235 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > I'm surprised at the answers of many of my group friends who are supposed to be heading towards being a spiritual person. I think you need to understand what you are eating here. There is no remorse in the way an animal is killed today. What you see in the supermarket are neat slices or cuts of whatever meat you care to eat but do you stop to think of what kind of treatment may have been meted out to the animals before they are neatly placed in front of you ? Don't act like you people are ignorant of the truth. Enough said maybe you should google and see the harsh reality..... .. > Stop cruelty to animals. The first step to spirituality is not hurting others and respecting animals ...treat them the way you will treat yourself.. > Rashmi > > > > > > Own a website.Get an unlimited package.Pay next to nothing.*Go to http://in..business./ > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 29, 2009 Bullocks killed and brahmins eating beef. Cool. Just lil old me and crazy mind playing again..... Eating bullock meat = eating beef (Olden Hindu practice) Eating beef = eating cow meat (Western practice) Hindus regard cow as a dwelling jeevan of all devas. I've not come across anything about bullocks (except wrt Shiva). So is eating bullock meat is as bad as eating cow meat for a Hindu (Current or vedic period) (apart from killing of bullock/cow)? Or is westerners eating cow meat worse than olden day Hindus eating bullock meat? Is cow beef = bullock beef wrt Hindu beliefs? Look what you have done my dear Kochananda!!! Is this an answer or another confusing question? , sankara menon <kochu1tz wrote: > > thank you. Thats more authoritative than poor ol me > > --- On Sun, 4/26/09, Robert Partick <robertpartick wrote: > > > Robert Partick <robertpartick > Re: beef > > Sunday, April 26, 2009, 11:00 PM > > Here is Swami Vivekananda' s thoughts on the same...as Sankarkji mentioned its a question of choices and other traditions that evovled for practical reasons.... > > > Of late, there has been a great controversy over whether Brahmins ate beef in the Vedic times. Let us listen to what Swami Vivekananda, one of the most illustrious savants of India, has to say on the subject. > His words would set at rest all sorts pf doubts and misgivings of people who still believe that facts are sacred even though opinions might differ. > Swami Vivekananda said: " You have always to remember that because a little social custom is going to be changed, you are not going to lose your religion, not at all. Remember these customs have already been changed. There was a time in this very India when, without eating beef, no Brahmin could remain a Brahmin ; you read in the Vedas how, when a sanyasin, a king, or a great man came into a house, the best bullock was killed, how in time it was found that as we were an agricultural race, killing the best bulls meant annihilation of the race. Therefore, the practice was stopped, and a voice was raised against the killing of cows... > " I do not mean that you should stand up and revile all your old customs and institutions. .. Revile none. Even those customs that are now appearing to be positive evils have been positively life-giving in times past; and if we have to remove these, we must not do so with curses, but with blessings and gratitude for all glorious work these customs have done for the preservation of our race... " > (From Swami Vivekananda' s reply to the welcome address at Madurai in 1897, published in Swamiji's Lecture from Colombo to Almora, brought out by the Advaita Ashram in 1997) > > --- On Sun, 4/26/09, sankara menon <kochu1tz > wrote: > > sankara menon <kochu1tz > > > All these are traditional views and personal likes and dislikes. Is it not? > > Then how do u explain the cooking of beef in pit fires in Bharadwaja ashrama when Rama was recieved on his way back from Lanka after victory over Rama? > > May the wise explain? > > Aravindan Viswanathan <the_thornbird_ 16 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > The *cow* is respected and worshipped as the manifestation of 'the mother goddess' ,sri bhooma devi as sited in the srimad bhagavatam. > even today in many temples, one can witness ,the 'go puja'[the holy cow worship ] and the gaja puja[the temple elephant worship] :in the suprabhat seva, the lord is first worshipped by these two respected souls first and then only the devotees are let in for the darshan! > > --- On Sun, 26/4/09, Ravi (New Zealand) Iyer <iyerlaw (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > > Ravi (New Zealand) Iyer <iyerlaw (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > > It's quite easy to understand whether beef eating is ok or not, if one > > understands what Lord Krishna told us through Bhagwat Gita. > > There are 3 gunas/quality of human beings - Thamogun (rustic/inactive > > nature ), Rajogun( hyper-active nature) and Satvagun (righteous nature) . > > How the Gunas /qualities are formed? By the kind of food that we eat. > > If one wants to tread the path of righteousness and spiritualism, one has to > > avoid meat - be it beef or otherwise. > > Regards > > Ravi > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 29, 2009 In vedas,especially in yajurveda,it says ma hinsee,don't kill,aja ma hinsee,not kill the goats,ga ma hinsee not kill coe.so according to vedas killing is not permitted at all.then comes about yaga and yaga pasu.adhwara is the synonimn of yaga.yaska the great etymologist give the meaning of adwara like this;:Adwara ithi yajna nama,dwarathi karma himsa,tad prathishedha ithi adwara.adwara is against himsa.then those who are intersted in eating meat changed the word alabhana into alambana.alabhana means to tetch and make free ,alambana means to kill.this thing is very clearly stating by charaka the greatest ayurvedic exponder in vimanastana of charaka samhitha.he says that when in yagas sarted killing of animals the new illness also appeard in the earth.From these thgings it is very clear there is no meat eating in vedas or in ayurveda.acharya m.r.rajesh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 29, 2009 Thank you Mr Rajesh....your msg is really needed here in this group! Rashmi ________________________________ Rajesh MR <mrrajeshvedam In vedas,especially in yajurveda,it says ma hinsee,don't kill,aja ma hinsee,not kill the goats,ga ma hinsee not kill coe.so according to vedas killing is not permitted at all.then comes about yaga and yaga pasu.adhwara is the synonimn of yaga.yaska the great etymologist give the meaning of adwara like this;:Adwara ithi yajna nama,dwarathi karma himsa,tad prathishedha ithi adwara.adwara is against himsa.then those who are intersted in eating meat changed the word alabhana into alambana.alabhana means to tetch and make free ,alambana means to kill.this thing is very clearly stating by charaka the greatest ayurvedic exponder in vimanastana of charaka samhitha.he says that when in yagas sarted killing of animals the new illness also appeard in the earth.From these thgings it is very clear there is no meat eating in vedas or in ayurveda.acharya m.r.rajesh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
