Guest guest Report post Posted November 26, 2008 HARE RAM , HARE KRISHAN Those bundles were initially not in that form but in a raw form before undergoing chemical or any other processing. The raw form is obtained from sheep and is not multi-coloured as the end product is. THANKS FOR PRESENTING YOUR VIEWS ON THOUGHT , MIND AND INTELLECT Yes definetely the answer lies in the Paragraph written by you But i am wondering that why you could not understand the importance and meaning of Sadhana . or you know SOMETHING , which is Sadhana but you do not know that it is also called Sadhana ............. WHAT IS THAT SOMETHING HARE RAM, HARE RAM ,RAM RAM ,HARE HARE , HARE KRISHAN , HARE KRISHAN , KRISHAN KRISHAN , HARE HARE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 26, 2008 , shanracer <no_reply wrote: > how do we know when we have crossed the line from gaining > actual knowledge, to intellectual or scholarly bickering? > > Very difficult question. Let me come back after doing some sadhna. Meanwhile i hope others will reply Aum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 26, 2008 Just like on the computer you have shortcuts to files, words are just lexical representatives of thoughts, ideas, objects, events, facts, actions, etc. Saadhna is a word. The word itself is not spiritually uplifting. The action which is addressed by this word is. So don't rely on words and its connotations. Sadhna, unlike medicine, is not a prescription. Whatever works is sadhna ________________________________ jitendra kumar <jtin_ja But i am wondering that why you could not understand the importance and meaning of Sadhana . or you know SOMETHING , which is Sadhana but you do not know that it is also called Sadhana ............ . WHAT IS THAT SOMETHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 26, 2008 HARE RAM , HARE KRISHAN > > Sadhna, unlike medicine, is not a prescription. Whatever works is sadhna > > > > THANKS MY DEAR FRIEND FOR SHARING VALUABLE PART OF YOUR EXPERIENCE IT means you beleive that if discussion on this site works for someone is Sadhana for Him . Do you beleive that Sadhana has any END POINT or what do you beleive HARE RAM ,HARE RAM, RAM RAM , RAM RAM ,HARE HARE , HARE KRISHAN , HARE KRISHAN , KRISHAN , HARE HARE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 4, 2008 , shanracer <no_reply@> wrote: > > > how do we know when we have crossed the line from gaining > > actual knowledge, to intellectual or scholarly bickering? wisdom comes from within, whereas dry intellectualism comes from books or from outside Wisdom tries to find the harmony between thoughts intellect tries to find arguments between thoughts Wisdom accepts, dry intellectuals reject Dry intellect thinks it has found the answer Wisdom knows how far it is from Truth !!! Love Aum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 4, 2008 Dear Aumji, Yes Sir, yes. You have put it wonderfully on wisdom and intellect. Regards, M.S.Thimmappa -- In , aumji <no_reply wrote: > > > > , shanracer <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > how do we know when we have crossed the line from gaining > > > actual knowledge, to intellectual or scholarly bickering? > > > wisdom comes from within, whereas dry intellectualism comes from > books or from outside > > Wisdom tries to find the harmony between thoughts > > intellect tries to find arguments between thoughts > > Wisdom accepts, dry intellectuals reject > > Dry intellect thinks it has found the answer > > Wisdom knows how far it is from Truth !!! > > Love > > Aum > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 4, 2008 , aumji <no_reply wrote: > > Wisdom tries to find the harmony between thoughts > > intellect tries to find arguments between thoughts > Wonderful Aumji. Can we say that the thinking " Me religon/philosophy is better than yours " comes from the intellect, as it tries to divide the Truth into parts? Many Gurus, some of whom were even advanced, have used this sort of thinking. That means they were still in intellect state? Im not saying we have to follow all religons/philosophies, but we have to be aware of their use for some people? with love Shantnu Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 4, 2008 , shanracer <no_reply wrote: > Many Gurus, some of whom were even advanced, have used this sort of > thinking. That means they were still in intellect state? > > Im not saying we have to follow all religons/philosophies, but we have Hmmmm normally advanced yogis may some times compare two ideas and tell one of them is superior... but it may not necessarily be dry intellectualism. It depends who is speaking. Nowdays all muslims are shouting " Islam is the most peaceful religion " and everybody laughs... this is closed intellect. If a hindu says - All paths lead to truth, but santan dharma tells the path more deeply and more clearly.... this is wisdom I am not saying this because i am a hindu...but telling one philosophy is better...may be wisdom too But if a Guru or saint criticises other saint or guru...saying whatever he is telling is the whole truth then it may be Ego not wisdom. Example of Ramakrishna and Aurobindo are worth mentioning... both of them stressed their ideas to be greater...but they also did not reject other paths. So telling a truth is also wisdom, even if it rejects the untruth...but the difference is very subtle and our ego always tells us that we are right. So to begin with, we must see that at least we start from acceptance rather than rejection....wisdom will slowly tell us where we are right and where wrong Wisdom tells us where we are right...and it does not care if others believe it or not intellect tells us others are wrong...and it does care to force you to believe it is right.. Aum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 4, 2008 , aumji <no_reply wrote: > Wisdom tells us where we are right...and it does not care if others > believe it or not > > intellect tells us others are wrong...and it does care to force you > to believe it is right.. Again very beautiful Aumji. Can we say that, a wise person knows all the paths, their advanatages & disadvantages, but may choose to follow one path, eg Tantra, because it suits him the most? While on the other hand, an intellectual has good knowledge of only 1 path, & rejects or makes fun of others, based on his own shallow knowledge? love Shantnu Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 5, 2008 , shanracer <no_reply wrote: > While on the other hand, an intellectual has good knowledge of only 1 > path, & rejects or makes fun of others, based on his own shallow > knowledge? > Yes you beautifully summed up what i wished to say. also wisdom never forces her views on anyone... wisdom may tell abt her path, but never use possesiveness, or dominating behaviour to bring people to her path. aum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
