Guest guest Report post Posted April 29, 2002 Dear Krushna, I go on in all the details of the lesson 20. I want to be sure about all points. May I ask you another question? In one of your messages, I have understood the BIRTH of a child happened during the subperiod of a planet having a high number of points FOR THE 5TH house. How do we make the difference in timing CONCEPTION (5th house) and BIRTH (also 5th house) of a child in a male chart? Same question with female charts in using the XIth house instead the 5th house. Thanks a lot Denis -- Pour des renseignements sur les séminaires, les consultations et les cours par correspondance, ainsi que pour des logiciels et des leçons d'astrologie gratuits, visitez mon site : www.astrocours.fr.st Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 29, 2002 Dear Denis, The Moon constellation for conception and birth remains same. Suppose if at the time of conception, moon in Ashwini(constellation) The after 10 circles of moon i.e. 272.5 days again it is in the same constellation. This should be counted from the date of conception. So counting in reverse way give the date of conception. This is generally in ideal case. Some times if the female gets some fever, it may change by few days. ( if the body temperature increases ) From first day of M.C. conception can not be before 11days, ( Moon traves 5 sign) So considering the day of M.C. as lagna, and when Moon will be in the fifth house, it may give the conception. It may be 11 to 16 days roughly. The day of M.C. and the sign is a important. If the sign of Moon in which M.C. occures, if afflicted by Mars and or Rahu, it may not give conception. krushna , " DENIS LABOURE " <Laboure@W...> wrote: > Dear Krushna, > > I go on in all the details of the lesson 20. I want to be sure about all > points. May I ask you another question? > > In one of your messages, I have understood the BIRTH of a child happened > during the subperiod of a planet having a high number of points FOR THE 5TH > house. How do we make the difference in timing CONCEPTION (5th house) and > BIRTH > (also 5th house) of a child in a male chart? > > Same question with female charts in using the XIth house instead the 5th > house. > > Thanks a lot > Denis > > > -- > Pour des renseignements sur les séminaires, les consultations et les > cours par correspondance, ainsi que pour des logiciels et des leçons > d'astrologie gratuits, visitez mon site : > www.astrocours.fr.st Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 1, 2002 Dear Denis, 9th house in Male chart indicates children of children 5th from 5th. It also indicates " Gotra " , " Kul " or " Wansha " of the person.( a Race, dynasty, Family) If there is Zero points due to any planet, means discontinuety or obstruction in expansion of the Race. This alone can not give the result of being child less. For confirmation of this we should also refer points in 5th house. If 8th house is having some trouble, it may give such result. It is not applicable in female chart. krushna , " DENIS LABOURE " <Laboure@W...> wrote: > Dear Krushna, > > In a message, you gave this rule: > " When a planet does not give any point to the 9th house, the native will not > have children " . > > Is my understanding correct? If it is correct, do we have to write: > > IN A MALE CHART: when a planet does not give any point to the 9th house > (house C), the native will not have children. > > IN A FEMALE CHART: when a planet does not give any point to the 3rd house > (house C), the native will not have children. > > Thanks a lot > Denis > > > > > Si une planète n'attribue aucun point à la maison IX, le natif peut ne pas > avoir d'enfant si le reste du thème le confirme. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 1, 2002 Dear Denis, In male chart, if 5th house is afflicted by Mars and Rahu it may lead to abortion, scissoring( cutting the abdoman at the time of birth), Mentally retarded child. In Female chart if Mars afflicts 11th house similar result is noted. In addition to this presence of Mars and afflicted by Rahu in 2nd house also indicates similar result. Please read here 5th house or it's lord. or 11th house or it's lord. krushna -- In , " DENIS LABOURE " <Laboure@W...> wrote: > Dear Krushna, > > This is another rule you gave in a message: > > " When the 5th house is afflicted by Mars or Rahu, an obortion or a dead-born > child may occurs " . > > Is this rule true in male charts (abortion mainly concerns females charts)? > > Do we have to rewrite this rule like this: > > IN A MALE CHART: When the 5th house is afflicted by Mars or Rahu, an > obortion or a dead-born child may occurs. > > IN A FEMALE CHART: IN A MALE CHART: When the 11th house is afflicted by Mars > or Rahu, an obortion or a dead-born child may occurs. > > Thanks a lot > Denis Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 19, 2002 Dear Margarita, In 1970, DST one hour was in operation throught the year in Netherlands. You have not mentioned about this thing. If you consider the DST or Summer time the Date changes to 3rd Sept 1970 and Birth time 11:02 Pm. This changes the whole picture. krushna , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Respected Krushna, and listmembers, > I wanted to ask about this chart. A male child was born to > the native on 7th of may 2001 during Jupiter/Saturn (end of > period). Normally Saturn cannot give results because he > aspects house C for the 5th. But he works fine for the > 12th. Is that enough to justify the birth ? > I cannot give any date of marriage because the couple is > not married. TOB comes from native's mother > Male born on 4th of September 1970 at 00h02 in Den Haag > (Netherlands) 4E 18 - 52N6 - zone 1 > Asc 13°9 gemini / Sun 18°34 leo / Moon 21°52 virgo / Mars > 8°2 leo / MercuryR 4°28 virgo / Jupiter 10°32 libra / Venus > 4°39 libra / Saturn 0°11 taurus. > Navamsha : asc +Jup+Sat in Capricorn / Mercury in Aquarius > / Mars and ketu in Gemini / Moon in Cancer / Sun in Virgo / > Venus in Scorpio/ > I join the worksheet for this chart. Points in the 5th are > very low and the Sun has 0 points for the 5th. > Thanks and best regards > Margarita > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: > 5/7/2002 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 20, 2002 Thank you Krushna for the comments. Perhaps you have other sources. I have one that states that there was no DST between 1946 and 1976, but this is probably wrong ? It's a very complicated matter but I will recalculate the chart with DST on Best regards Margarita krushanain [krushanain] Sunday, May 19, 2002 9:32 PM Re: childbirth Dear Margarita, In 1970, DST one hour was in operation throught the year in Netherlands. You have not mentioned about this thing. If you consider the DST or Summer time the Date changes to 3rd Sept 1970 and Birth time 11:02 Pm. This changes the whole picture. krushna , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Respected Krushna, and listmembers, > I wanted to ask about this chart. A male child was born to > the native on 7th of may 2001 during Jupiter/Saturn (end of > period). Normally Saturn cannot give results because he > aspects house C for the 5th. But he works fine for the > 12th. Is that enough to justify the birth ? > I cannot give any date of marriage because the couple is > not married. TOB comes from native's mother > Male born on 4th of September 1970 at 00h02 in Den Haag > (Netherlands) 4E 18 - 52N6 - zone 1 > Asc 13°9 gemini / Sun 18°34 leo / Moon 21°52 virgo / Mars > 8°2 leo / MercuryR 4°28 virgo / Jupiter 10°32 libra / Venus > 4°39 libra / Saturn 0°11 taurus. > Navamsha : asc +Jup+Sat in Capricorn / Mercury in Aquarius > / Mars and ketu in Gemini / Moon in Cancer / Sun in Virgo / > Venus in Scorpio/ > I join the worksheet for this chart. Points in the 5th are > very low and the Sun has 0 points for the 5th. > Thanks and best regards > Margarita > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: > 5/7/2002 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 20, 2002 Dear Margarita, I have taken this from Bala's Niryana Ephemeris in Chapter on Local standard times in use in various countries and Zones of the world and Summer time. krushna , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Thank you Krushna for the comments. Perhaps you have other > sources. I have one that states that there was no DST > between 1946 and 1976, but this is probably wrong ? It's a > very complicated matter but I will recalculate the chart > with DST on > Best regards > Margarita > > > krushanain [krushanain] > Sunday, May 19, 2002 9:32 PM > > Re: childbirth > > Dear Margarita, > In 1970, DST one hour was in operation throught the > year in > Netherlands. You have not mentioned about this thing. If > you consider > the DST or Summer time the Date changes to 3rd Sept 1970 > and Birth > time 11:02 Pm. This changes the whole picture. > krushna > > , " dmlettens " > <dmlettens@s...> > wrote: > > Respected Krushna, and listmembers, > > I wanted to ask about this chart. A male child was born > to > > the native on 7th of may 2001 during Jupiter/Saturn (end > of > > period). Normally Saturn cannot give results because he > > aspects house C for the 5th. But he works fine for the > > 12th. Is that enough to justify the birth ? > > I cannot give any date of marriage because the couple is > > not married. TOB comes from native's mother > > Male born on 4th of September 1970 at 00h02 in Den Haag > > (Netherlands) 4E 18 - 52N6 - zone 1 > > Asc 13°9 gemini / Sun 18°34 leo / Moon 21°52 virgo / Mars > > 8°2 leo / MercuryR 4°28 virgo / Jupiter 10°32 libra / > Venus > > 4°39 libra / Saturn 0°11 taurus. > > Navamsha : asc +Jup+Sat in Capricorn / Mercury in > Aquarius > > / Mars and ketu in Gemini / Moon in Cancer / Sun in Virgo > / > > Venus in Scorpio/ > > I join the worksheet for this chart. Points in the 5th > are > > very low and the Sun has 0 points for the 5th. > > Thanks and best regards > > Margarita > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: > > 5/7/2002 > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 20, 2002 Respected Krushna, Well, yes, when the time is right everything matches. Saturn can act for the 12th and for the 5th as lords of D and E; so with Taurus ascendent everything fits. The system is always right when you get the correct time. Thanks and best regards Margarita krushanain [krushanain] Monday, May 20, 2002 5:08 PM Re: childbirth Dear Margarita, I have taken this from Bala's Niryana Ephemeris in Chapter on Local standard times in use in various countries and Zones of the world and Summer time. krushna , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Thank you Krushna for the comments. Perhaps you have other > sources. I have one that states that there was no DST > between 1946 and 1976, but this is probably wrong ? It's a > very complicated matter but I will recalculate the chart > with DST on > Best regards > Margarita > > > krushanain [krushanain] > Sunday, May 19, 2002 9:32 PM > > Re: childbirth > > Dear Margarita, > In 1970, DST one hour was in operation throught the > year in > Netherlands. You have not mentioned about this thing. If > you consider > the DST or Summer time the Date changes to 3rd Sept 1970 > and Birth > time 11:02 Pm. This changes the whole picture. > krushna > > , " dmlettens " > <dmlettens@s...> > wrote: > > Respected Krushna, and listmembers, > > I wanted to ask about this chart. A male child was born > to > > the native on 7th of may 2001 during Jupiter/Saturn (end > of > > period). Normally Saturn cannot give results because he > > aspects house C for the 5th. But he works fine for the > > 12th. Is that enough to justify the birth ? > > I cannot give any date of marriage because the couple is > > not married. TOB comes from native's mother > > Male born on 4th of September 1970 at 00h02 in Den Haag > > (Netherlands) 4E 18 - 52N6 - zone 1 > > Asc 13°9 gemini / Sun 18°34 leo / Moon 21°52 virgo / Mars > > 8°2 leo / MercuryR 4°28 virgo / Jupiter 10°32 libra / > Venus > > 4°39 libra / Saturn 0°11 taurus. > > Navamsha : asc +Jup+Sat in Capricorn / Mercury in > Aquarius > > / Mars and ketu in Gemini / Moon in Cancer / Sun in Virgo > / > > Venus in Scorpio/ > > I join the worksheet for this chart. Points in the 5th > are > > very low and the Sun has 0 points for the 5th. > > Thanks and best regards > > Margarita > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: > > 5/7/2002 > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 5, 2006 Dear Gita, This chart shows complete delay by Saturn, as it is in 5th house in Navamsa. The lagna is in border, so how much are you sure about the birth time? sun-venus distance is more than 43 deg, venus is with saturn, saturn is aspecting moon in navamsa, Jupiter is in Libra in 7th hosue etc. dont show a very good married life. Check more events of her life. --Manoshi , Gita Krishnan <gitakrishnan4 wrote: > > Dear Krushna ji, Ash and list members, > > My last analysis for timing a job went wrong because of timezone data entry error. Since Ash has explained all the points around this, I wanted to try a new chart for a different event. I am considering the chart of a female native born on 12-Nov-1981; 4:30 pm, Mumbai, for childbirth. > > The native married in the first sector of her Rahu antra. This is a case of early marriage. Rahu is SD to Moon and Moon is also LoD of 7th house.Moon also has good points for 2,7 and 11 houses. Also the native has the blessings of her parents since the lagna lord Mars and third lord Mercury are in 3:11 relationship. > > The native has no children yet. Now for childbirth in a female's chart we consider houses 5 and 11. > > Let us first consider house 5 as house B first. We then have > > House A: 12 (pisces) LoA: Jupiter > House B: 5(leo) LoB: Sun > House C: 9(saggitarius) LoC: Jupiter > House D: 2 (tarus) LoD: Venus > House E: 10(capricorn) LoE: Saturn > House 12 from 5: 4(cancer) Lo12:Moon > > Natural and Functional Karaka : Jupiter > > Natural and Functional Karaka are both spoilt because Jupiter is in the sign of Libra. > > Saturn doesn't show any delay for house 5 in this chart. However Jupiter shows a delay in the Rasi Chart. LoA is Jupiter and LoB Sun is along with Jupiter.This delay period of 24 years is now over as of Sept 2005 when Jupiter entered the natal sign of Jupiter. > > The points for house 5 in the worksheet are : Saturn (32); Venus (20); Mercury(17); Mars(13); Jupiter(13); Sun (12); Moon (10). No planets aspect houses A (12), B(5), and C(9). > > Now let us consider house 11 as B. We have > House A: 6 (virgo) LoA: Mercury > House B: 11(aquarius) LoB: Saturn > House C: 3(mercury) LoC: Mercury > House D: 8 (scorpio) LoD: Mars > House E: 4(cancer) LoE: Moon > House 12 from 5: 10(capri) Lo12:Saturn > > Natural and Functional Karaka: Mercury > > Both Saturn and Jupiter donot show any delay with house 11 as B. > > The points for 11th house in the worksheet are : Saturn(22); Moon (17); Mercury(17); Sun (16); Mars(16); Venus(7) and Jupiter(2) > > Mars and Jupiter aspect house B. Jupiter, Venus and Saturn aspect house C. So we can conclude that Venus, Jupiter and Saturn cannot give results for house B. However Mars is an exception by virtue of being LoD. > > The current dasa Jupiter that runs through April 27 2006 cannot bring conception. For house 5 Jup is spoiled in the house of Libra. For house 11 it has less points in the worksheet and is aspecting house C. > > The next antra is that of Saturn. Saturn has good points for house 5 and is also LoE for house 5. For house 11, Saturn is Lo12 and is aspecting house C. However Saturn can act as SD to Sun (Navamsa Lord). I think Saturn can bring results of House 11 too. Since all the delay is over, I am expecting this event of conception to happen in the first sector of the Saturn Antra ie between April 27 2006 and April 9 2007. > > To narrow down further, I consider Mer and Mars as the next two strong signifactors for houses 5 and 11. Transit of Sun over Mer and Mar happens between 15-Jun and 21-Jun and 11-Oct and 16th Oct. > > Is my analysis on the right track? Please comment and help me understand KAS better. > > If conception happens in the antra of Lo12 will it cause any problems? I have read from the lessons that conception during the antra of Lord of House 10 may give a male child. Is it applicable only for a male chart? Can we predict the sex of the child on this case? > > Thanks > Gita > > > > > Mail > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 5, 2006 Thanks for the reply Manoshi. The time given to me by the native was 16:15. I have posted my analysis based on 16:15 but I have typed 16:30 in my message. It is a typo. Sorry abt that. This native had a love marriage. Separated from husband for first two years in marriage for educational purposes. The last two years have been full of misunderstandings and fights (separation too). Claims to have been humilitated by in-laws. They are on the verge of a divorce. Parents trying to save the marriage. It might have been a wrong idea to predict childbirth for the chart. But I didnt know that there were so many issues earlier. The native landed in US in August 2003 for PG. Got her first job in June 2005. Has good professional satisfaction and earns good money! Very attached to parents and has one younger brother. I dont see 43 degrees differences between Sun and Venus. I agree with the other things you have mentioned. What are your thoughts? atterjee <khallopapa wrote: Dear Gita, This chart shows complete delay by Saturn, as it is in 5th house in Navamsa. The lagna is in border, so how much are you sure about the birth time? sun-venus distance is more than 43 deg, venus is with saturn, saturn is aspecting moon in navamsa, Jupiter is in Libra in 7th hosue etc. dont show a very good married life. Check more events of her life. --Manoshi , Gita Krishnan <gitakrishnan4 wrote: > > Dear Krushna ji, Ash and list members, > > My last analysis for timing a job went wrong because of timezone data entry error. Since Ash has explained all the points around this, I wanted to try a new chart for a different event. I am considering the chart of a female native born on 12-Nov-1981; 4:30 pm, Mumbai, for childbirth. > > The native married in the first sector of her Rahu antra. This is a case of early marriage. Rahu is SD to Moon and Moon is also LoD of 7th house.Moon also has good points for 2,7 and 11 houses. Also the native has the blessings of her parents since the lagna lord Mars and third lord Mercury are in 3:11 relationship. > > The native has no children yet. Now for childbirth in a female's chart we consider houses 5 and 11. > > Let us first consider house 5 as house B first. We then have > > House A: 12 (pisces) LoA: Jupiter > House B: 5(leo) LoB: Sun > House C: 9(saggitarius) LoC: Jupiter > House D: 2 (tarus) LoD: Venus > House E: 10(capricorn) LoE: Saturn > House 12 from 5: 4(cancer) Lo12:Moon > > Natural and Functional Karaka : Jupiter > > Natural and Functional Karaka are both spoilt because Jupiter is in the sign of Libra. > > Saturn doesn't show any delay for house 5 in this chart. However Jupiter shows a delay in the Rasi Chart. LoA is Jupiter and LoB Sun is along with Jupiter.This delay period of 24 years is now over as of Sept 2005 when Jupiter entered the natal sign of Jupiter. > > The points for house 5 in the worksheet are : Saturn (32); Venus (20); Mercury(17); Mars(13); Jupiter(13); Sun (12); Moon (10). No planets aspect houses A (12), B(5), and C(9). > > Now let us consider house 11 as B. We have > House A: 6 (virgo) LoA: Mercury > House B: 11(aquarius) LoB: Saturn > House C: 3(mercury) LoC: Mercury > House D: 8 (scorpio) LoD: Mars > House E: 4(cancer) LoE: Moon > House 12 from 5: 10(capri) Lo12:Saturn > > Natural and Functional Karaka: Mercury > > Both Saturn and Jupiter donot show any delay with house 11 as B. > > The points for 11th house in the worksheet are : Saturn(22); Moon (17); Mercury(17); Sun (16); Mars(16); Venus(7) and Jupiter(2) > > Mars and Jupiter aspect house B. Jupiter, Venus and Saturn aspect house C. So we can conclude that Venus, Jupiter and Saturn cannot give results for house B. However Mars is an exception by virtue of being LoD. > > The current dasa Jupiter that runs through April 27 2006 cannot bring conception. For house 5 Jup is spoiled in the house of Libra. For house 11 it has less points in the worksheet and is aspecting house C. > > The next antra is that of Saturn. Saturn has good points for house 5 and is also LoE for house 5. For house 11, Saturn is Lo12 and is aspecting house C. However Saturn can act as SD to Sun (Navamsa Lord). I think Saturn can bring results of House 11 too. Since all the delay is over, I am expecting this event of conception to happen in the first sector of the Saturn Antra ie between April 27 2006 and April 9 2007. > > To narrow down further, I consider Mer and Mars as the next two strong signifactors for houses 5 and 11. Transit of Sun over Mer and Mar happens between 15-Jun and 21-Jun and 11-Oct and 16th Oct. > > Is my analysis on the right track? Please comment and help me understand KAS better. > > If conception happens in the antra of Lo12 will it cause any problems? I have read from the lessons that conception during the antra of Lord of House 10 may give a male child. Is it applicable only for a male chart? Can we predict the sex of the child on this case? > > Thanks > Gita > > > > > Mail > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 5, 2006 I read this chart one more time and I have got all the facts. Thanks for your time Manoshi. I dont think I want to discuss this chart more. Gita Krishnan <gitakrishnan4 wrote: Thanks for the reply Manoshi. The time given to me by the native was 16:15. I have posted my analysis based on 16:15 but I have typed 16:30 in my message. It is a typo. Sorry abt that. This native had a love marriage. Separated from husband for first two years in marriage for educational purposes. The last two years have been full of misunderstandings and fights (separation too). Claims to have been humilitated by in-laws. They are on the verge of a divorce. Parents trying to save the marriage. It might have been a wrong idea to predict childbirth for the chart. But I didnt know that there were so many issues earlier. The native landed in US in August 2003 for PG. Got her first job in June 2005. Has good professional satisfaction and earns good money! Very attached to parents and has one younger brother. I dont see 43 degrees differences between Sun and Venus. I agree with the other things you have mentioned. What are your thoughts? atterjee <khallopapa wrote: Dear Gita, This chart shows complete delay by Saturn, as it is in 5th house in Navamsa. The lagna is in border, so how much are you sure about the birth time? sun-venus distance is more than 43 deg, venus is with saturn, saturn is aspecting moon in navamsa, Jupiter is in Libra in 7th hosue etc. dont show a very good married life. Check more events of her life. --Manoshi , Gita Krishnan <gitakrishnan4 wrote: > > Dear Krushna ji, Ash and list members, > > My last analysis for timing a job went wrong because of timezone data entry error. Since Ash has explained all the points around this, I wanted to try a new chart for a different event. I am considering the chart of a female native born on 12-Nov-1981; 4:30 pm, Mumbai, for childbirth. > > The native married in the first sector of her Rahu antra. This is a case of early marriage. Rahu is SD to Moon and Moon is also LoD of 7th house.Moon also has good points for 2,7 and 11 houses. Also the native has the blessings of her parents since the lagna lord Mars and third lord Mercury are in 3:11 relationship. > > The native has no children yet. Now for childbirth in a female's chart we consider houses 5 and 11. > > Let us first consider house 5 as house B first. We then have > > House A: 12 (pisces) LoA: Jupiter > House B: 5(leo) LoB: Sun > House C: 9(saggitarius) LoC: Jupiter > House D: 2 (tarus) LoD: Venus > House E: 10(capricorn) LoE: Saturn > House 12 from 5: 4(cancer) Lo12:Moon > > Natural and Functional Karaka : Jupiter > > Natural and Functional Karaka are both spoilt because Jupiter is in the sign of Libra. > > Saturn doesn't show any delay for house 5 in this chart. However Jupiter shows a delay in the Rasi Chart. LoA is Jupiter and LoB Sun is along with Jupiter.This delay period of 24 years is now over as of Sept 2005 when Jupiter entered the natal sign of Jupiter. > > The points for house 5 in the worksheet are : Saturn (32); Venus (20); Mercury(17); Mars(13); Jupiter(13); Sun (12); Moon (10). No planets aspect houses A (12), B(5), and C(9). > > Now let us consider house 11 as B. We have > House A: 6 (virgo) LoA: Mercury > House B: 11(aquarius) LoB: Saturn > House C: 3(mercury) LoC: Mercury > House D: 8 (scorpio) LoD: Mars > House E: 4(cancer) LoE: Moon > House 12 from 5: 10(capri) Lo12:Saturn > > Natural and Functional Karaka: Mercury > > Both Saturn and Jupiter donot show any delay with house 11 as B. > > The points for 11th house in the worksheet are : Saturn(22); Moon (17); Mercury(17); Sun (16); Mars(16); Venus(7) and Jupiter(2) > > Mars and Jupiter aspect house B. Jupiter, Venus and Saturn aspect house C. So we can conclude that Venus, Jupiter and Saturn cannot give results for house B. However Mars is an exception by virtue of being LoD. > > The current dasa Jupiter that runs through April 27 2006 cannot bring conception. For house 5 Jup is spoiled in the house of Libra. For house 11 it has less points in the worksheet and is aspecting house C. > > The next antra is that of Saturn. Saturn has good points for house 5 and is also LoE for house 5. For house 11, Saturn is Lo12 and is aspecting house C. However Saturn can act as SD to Sun (Navamsa Lord). I think Saturn can bring results of House 11 too. Since all the delay is over, I am expecting this event of conception to happen in the first sector of the Saturn Antra ie between April 27 2006 and April 9 2007. > > To narrow down further, I consider Mer and Mars as the next two strong signifactors for houses 5 and 11. Transit of Sun over Mer and Mar happens between 15-Jun and 21-Jun and 11-Oct and 16th Oct. > > Is my analysis on the right track? Please comment and help me understand KAS better. > > If conception happens in the antra of Lo12 will it cause any problems? I have read from the lessons that conception during the antra of Lord of House 10 may give a male child. Is it applicable only for a male chart? Can we predict the sex of the child on this case? > > Thanks > Gita > > > > > Mail > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 10, 2006 Dear Ksprema, Let me try for learning purpose. We use KAS anayamsa and not Lahiri.. may be thats y i am getting different antras. you current antra is of mercury. For childbirth in women 11th house is considered as well. 11th lord and its loE is in 6th house. along with venus. mars and venus are the strongest significator for child birth in your chart considering 5th,11th and 12th houses. next dasa is of ketu which is samdhari to venus. and its in 8th house ... so might deliver result for 11th house during its antra 2008 sep to aug 2009. thanks/regards harjeet , " ksprema " <ksprema wrote: > > Namaste Ash, Bala and other members, > > I have a query regarding children. I have a weak 5th house with SAV in > raasi chart as 19 points and navamsha 21 points. I am going for ivf > treatment second time starting from last week of Oct. This procedure > will be completed by Nov. What are my chances of getting pregnant? I > am currently running Saturn AD in Guru MD per vedic astro. How does the > transits look like for me? My Saturn AD will change in Feb 2007 to > Budh AD. My Saturn and Mercury, both are SD to my MD lord which is > Guru. I had tried ivf once before in last May-June '06, but did not > have success. > > To get complete picture of my ashtakavarga points, here are my birth > details : > > DOB : 3rd June 1970 > TOB : 9:15 pm (IST) > POB : Calcutta, India > > I would really appreciate your views. Thanks. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tauragem297 0 Report post Posted April 22, 2009 We have been married for almost two years now and want to have a child.. wife-5 th june 1980,11.30 am,bangalore myself-6 th may 1973,03.50 am,bangalore. I am concerned abt my wives health at present.She had a kidney stone.She has been having some problems from the time we moved to USA. any suggestions respecte.thank you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taipei 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2009 Namaskar, The health issues of your wife is mainly because of malefics like saturn and mars in lagna. As far as the child issue is concerned, saptmsa does favor a kid. Since your chart shows the kal sarp dosh which delayed ur marriage, might delay the kids too. Worship Lord subrahmanya to speed up the process. with regards Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tauragem297 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2009 Thank you very much. Respect your suggestions.Keep up the good work Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tauragem297 0 Report post Posted April 26, 2009 Can u tell us our respective ishta devatas?None of the astrologers have told us this. I just read through the site and came across that such a thing is there. I would request you to tell us.. thanking you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taipei 0 Report post Posted April 26, 2009 Namaskar, You are born in Mithuna rashi whose lord is mercury. So worshiping Lord vishnu will be beneficial to you. Your wife is born in Kumbha Rashi. Saturn owns Kumbha rashi. Hence, worshipping saturn will be desired. with regards Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tauragem297 0 Report post Posted April 26, 2009 thank you sir. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
watchthisfree 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2009 This is your wife's birth chart. <table align="center" border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="5" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="contentboldMailer" width="20%">Planet</td> <td class="contentboldMailer" width="20%">Rashi</td> <td class="contentboldMailer" width="25%">Degree</td> <td class="contentboldMailer" width="35%">Nakshatra</td></tr> <tr><td class="contentMailer">Lagna</td> <td class="contentMailer">Leo</td> <td class="contentMailer">08:16:54</td> <td class="contentMailer">Magha-3</td></tr> <tr><td class="contentMailer">Surya</td> <td class="contentMailer">Taurus</td> <td class="contentMailer">21:08:15</td> <td class="contentMailer">Rohini-4</td></tr> <tr><td class="contentMailer">Chandra</td> <td class="contentMailer">Aquarius</td> <td class="contentMailer">09:48:16</td> <td class="contentMailer">Satbhisha-1</td></tr> <tr><td class="contentMailer">Mangal</td> <td class="contentMailer">Leo</td> <td class="contentMailer">18:22:01</td> <td class="contentMailer">Purvafalguni-2</td></tr> <tr><td class="contentMailer">Budh</td> <td class="contentMailer">Gemini</td> <td class="contentMailer">13:10:31</td> <td class="contentMailer">Aadra-2</td></tr> <tr><td class="contentMailer">Guru</td> <td class="contentMailer">Leo</td> <td class="contentMailer">08:57:30</td> <td class="contentMailer">Magha-3</td></tr> <tr><td class="contentMailer">Shukra</td> <td class="contentMailer">Gemini</td> <td class="contentMailer">06:24:15</td> <td class="contentMailer">Mrugshirsh-4</td></tr> <tr><td class="contentMailer">Shani</td> <td class="contentMailer">Leo</td> <td class="contentMailer">26:46:16</td> <td class="contentMailer">Uttarafalguni-1</td></tr> <tr><td class="contentMailer">Rahu</td> <td class="contentMailer">Leo</td> <td class="contentMailer">00:02:16</td> <td class="contentMailer">Magha-1</td></tr> <tr><td class="contentMailer">Ketu</td> <td class="contentMailer">Aquarius</td> <td class="contentMailer">00:02:15</td> <td class="contentMailer">Dhanistha-3</td></tr></tbody></table> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
watchthisfree 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2009 In the 1st house there are 4 planets Mars, Jupiter, Rahu and Saturn. This is not good at all. They all have a direct aspect on the 7th house which is the house of married life. She is going to suffer a little bit after marriage, but if she is mentally strong then all will be fine. <table border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="5" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="contentboldMailer">Planet</td> <td class="contentboldMailer">Start Date</td> <td class="contentboldMailer">End Date</td></tr> <tr><td class="contentMailer">Rahu</td> <td class="contentMailer">12 Mar, 1976</td> <td class="contentMailer">14 Mar, 1994</td></tr> <tr><td class="contentMailer">Guru</td> <td class="contentMailer">14 Mar, 1994</td> <td class="contentMailer">15 Mar, 2010</td></tr> <tr><td class="contentMailer">Shani</td> <td class="contentMailer">15 Mar, 2010</td> <td class="contentMailer">14 Mar, 2029</td></tr> <tr><td class="contentMailer">Budh</td> <td class="contentMailer">14 Mar, 2029</td> <td class="contentMailer">15 Mar, 2046</td></tr> <tr><td class="contentMailer">Ketu</td> <td class="contentMailer">15 Mar, 2046</td> <td class="contentMailer">17 Mar, 2053</td></tr> <tr><td class="contentMailer">Shukra</td> <td class="contentMailer">17 Mar, 2053</td> <td class="contentMailer">17 Mar, 2073</td></tr> <tr><td class="contentMailer">Surya</td> <td class="contentMailer">17 Mar, 2073</td> <td class="contentMailer">21 Mar, 2079</td></tr> <tr><td class="contentMailer">Chandra</td> <td class="contentMailer">21 Mar, 2079</td> <td class="contentMailer">22 Mar, 2089</td></tr> <tr><td class="contentMailer">Mangal</td> <td class="contentMailer">22 Mar, 2089</td> <td class="contentMailer">24 Mar, 2096</td></tr></tbody></table> Right now she is going through the mahadasha of Jupiter which as per the above table started in Mar 94 and will end in Mar, 2010. Right now her dasha cycle is Jup/Rah/Ket, meaning Jupiter mahadasha, Rahu antardasha and Ketu pratyantardasha, this is a deadly combination as I see it. But if things go right then you will be a father by March 2010. Right now Jupiter is in the Makar rasi which is the rasi in the 6th house of your wife, the house of disease and surgery etc. So she needs to be 200% careful. This Jupiter will stay until atleast the end of 2010. After that it will move into the 11th rasi ie Kumbha and in the 7th house of your wife's chart, this will have a direct aspect (drishti) on the Jupiter in the 1st house and this Jupiter is also the lord of 5th house- the house of children. So you better sit down and plan accordingly. I still request that you give preference to her health. And remember I am not God I can be totally wrong, Thanks, Ravi... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tauragem297 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2009 Thank you Sir.I respect your opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tauragem297 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2009 One more query sir if you dont mind... Our Concern is if we plan to have kids after 2010..both of us will be running shani dasa...so I dont know what impact it will have on begetting children?..Thanks for your review. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
watchthisfree 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 you need to be sure that your wife is ok healthwise, she needs to be 100% before you even think of having a child. Sani dasha after 2010 will not affect negatively at all. Good luck and God bless, Ravi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sasisekaran_pti 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 Aum Gurubhyo Namah namaste dear shri.tauragem The Ishta devata is seen from the 12th to Atmakaraka in navamsa. The deity related to the planet placed there shows the ishta devata. If no planet is there, consider its lord. your wife's ishta devata is sadaashiva. your ishta devata is subramanya or Durga. your atmakaraka is venus and two planets, namely moon and mars are placed there. Hence it is complex in your case. your wife's chart contains a strong curse coming from jupiter, which is also the fifth lord indicating children. The very same jupiter is the planet showing ishta devata. Since a curse is coming from such a planet, it is imperative and highly compulsory on her part to remove the curse from jupiter. To remove this curse, intense prayer of shiva is called for. Also during " pradosha ", shiva must be worshipped. may mother bless all sasisekarn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tauragem297 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 thank you all.. We respect your advice and will follow henceforth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
