A.Ravi sekhar 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2008 Why Shaivism is considered as oldest relision in the world and why not the others Do you have any evidences that when Shaivism was started, or Hinduism was started.I know that Shaivism (Hinduism) is the most ancient relision in the World after that Vaishnavism and Shakthism are later versions of Hinduism. The logic behind is that the idea of creating the God starts at the ancient time where there is no skill of creating the shilpam(shape) of a god.They started worshipping rock and animals.No you can observ that all shiva lingas are not in a wel organised shape.Some shiva lingas are big, or small,tall, or short and some are balck ,white and in various colours.Some of the shiva lingas are worshipped in the form snow. The older missailes are with sharp and narrow and it should be like that one should throw for hunt.The God shiva used to have shulam which is in similar shape.I Cannot feel sudharshan chakram is ancient as it should have some technology or logic and skill to throw. First view the God (Principles) in Shaivism : 1. God should have authority on basic 5 Elements of life(pancha Bhuthlu) i.e Earth,Air,Fire,Sky,Water (BhutNadh) 2. God should show the way to get 'Brahma Gnanam' or Moksham or Mukthi.(Jyothi Lingam at Amrnath) 3.God used to distribute the happyness and holiness(Shiva Shankar).God can destroy the Death. (Maha Mruthyunjaya). 4. God should be as Natural as posible and not show interest in artificial makeup.(MahaYogi) 5. God Should have the practical evidences of explaining all actions of life. (amotions or feelings)In our indin culture the way explained life is in terms dance which were explained in Thandavam(64 types).(Nata Raj Swami). 6. God should have the Command on Living Organisms (Pasupathi Nadh) 7. God should be Ideal .Should not have any illegal relations to any of other women.(Ardha Nareeshwar with Godess Shakthi) 8. God Should have the command on time or Fortune(Maha Kaleshwar) and can see three forms of time with his eyes (Thrayambakeshwar) 9. God Should be as Lord(Devadi Dev, MahaDev ) to all powers as all good (Godess,Vigneshwar, Karthekeyudu, Brahma,Saraswathi ,Vishnu, Lakshmi, Nagaraj ) and all evil,fortune based (Saniswar and all palnet based gods). 10.God Should follow the Equallance in case of all lives(might be Devagana,rakshasa gan or any living cretures) in case of giving Moksh or in case of punishment (Maha Rudhrudu) are you feeling that any other God has better qualities than the above.If there then we have to think that he is the God. Lord Shiva,Vishnu,Rama and Krishna and Shakthi (Godess) : I believe that Dravidians (Real ancient Indians) are mostly living in South India.As they were lost some of their living places(in North) to Aryans.So the real old ancient indians are now in South India mostly.They are devotees of God Shiva. I believe that King Rama,belongs to Aryan family who came from middle Asia,might be Afghanistan.They believe Vishnu as supreme.But there is proof that SriRam worshipped the God Shiva in Rameshwar(Tamil Nadu),Still available. I know that God Krishna ,is also considered as avatar of God Vishnu.In Bhaghavadhgetha , that is written by Aryans who would like to say that Krishna (Vishnu) as Supreme god.But in Fact Arjuna the blind follower of Krishna got the missaile "Pasupathastram" from Lord Shiva and mukthi or moksha through his next life as Bhaktha Kannappa at Sri Kala Hasthi (Near to Tirupathi). The Popular Stories of Worshipping God Shiva : Somanadh------> God Chandra worshipped God Shiva the Popular Story of Moon Stone. Sri KalaHastheeshwar----->The Spider,Snake and Elephant worshipped <wbr> God Shiva ,the popular story of Srikalahasthi. Sri Maha Mruthyunjeya --->Bhaktha Markandeya's Story. -- Thanks and Regards A,Ravi Sekhar 9963434482 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A.Ravi sekhar 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2008 please try to discuss this thread and analyze the facts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suchandra 1 Report post Posted August 11, 2008 please try to discuss this thread and analyze the facts Just found this article by Avinilima which might explain it. Hinduism Definition Posted by avinilima on August 11, 2008 http://avinilima.wordpress.com/2008/08/11/hinduism-definition/ HINDUISM DEFINITION Hinduism defies definition. It is a word without any content. As a faith, it is vague and amorphous. In the usual sense of the word one cannot say whether it is a religion or not. It has within itself all types of religions. It contains all forms of worship and its conflicting philosophies can confound anyone. It has altered from age to age, and from community to community. The age-old value systems so deeply entrenched in the society have become subjects for debate. The wisdom of the Vedas; the dogmas from the Puranas and the Shastras; the iron laws of caste; the belief in karma and rebirth and the rule of status by birth are serious issues that preside over this complex culture. Hinduism is not congregational and is unstructured as compared to other religions. Each Hindu decides for himself which manifestation of God is most important to him, what scriptures to accept as authentic, or which holy man to follow. It is a very personal religion. The essence of Hinduism lies in this complete freedom of choice and practice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaisersose 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2008 The Indus valley civilization that precedes Aryan civilization in North West India was worshipping Shiva and the mother Goddess. So these two groups are possibly the oldest religion beliefs in the sub-continent. But this does not mean they are the oldest in the world. The Mesopotamian civlization is older than IVC and they had a different set of beliefs. Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
