sasisekaran_pti 0 Report post Posted May 27, 2008 OM GURUBHYO NAMAH namaste dear shri.medan lagna in d30 shows the paapa purusha or avishnu. that is why the 12th to it is called as vishnu , who can save the nativity. once you locate the badly placed grahas in d30, move to navamsa to see its strength. observe its role as chara karaka in toto. now you see in rasi how such a planet can behave. if you start mixing lordships of all vargas, you will end up nowhere. regarding the chart given by shri.ram, you go back through the thread that has the heading " will he come back ? " . it is available . may mother bless all regards sasisekaran Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
medan 0 Report post Posted May 27, 2008 Dear Shri Sasisekaran, Thank you for the information. Regards, Medan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ayush 0 Report post Posted May 30, 2008 om gurubhyo namah namaste dear shri.ayush, rahu is placed in marana karaka sthana in the ninth house. this shows your attitude towards pitris/elders/gurus. rahu's tendency is to cross the boundaries. if it is placed badly and afflicted it takes a person totally away from dharma. otherwise if beneficially disposed it makes the person cross seas to earn a living. rahu is against guru and gets neecha in dhanus. ketu , gyna karaka gets exalted in the ninth house (consider kaalapurusha's ) of guru. you were born in the thiti of guru. the lesson you should take from both of these is that you should never neglect pitiris/elders/guru. if you do so, you will be punished. please consider this seriously. in addition to this, rahu is placed in lagna in navamsa showing your natural ability to cross boundaries. hence it becomes all the more important to respect your elders etc.. since rahu/moon period is running do paatha pooja to elders. in this period of exalted period of moon, you can worship paaduka and everyday at the end of the pooja , keep the paaduka on your head and pray krishna. ( Lord Krishna has exalted moon ). otherwise no need to draw parallel to other charts we are discussing. Please note scientist Einstein had moon with rahu. was he mentally ill ? no. but he crossed boundary and helped americans build atom bomb and kill lakhs of lifes...his mental ability ? may mother bless all regards sasiskeran Dear Sasiskeran, Thanks a lot for evaluating my own chart. I believe this minor depression in my life would not only make me more stong but would also led to a good life. Getting back to the topic of mental illness, my brother suffered with schizophrenia, and was highly depressed a few years back. He took a drug overdose and did something which he souldn't have done. Although he have had a narrow escape, he remained depressed for a long time. It was only when dashas changed, his attitute towrds everything changed. He was under Rahu + Moon dasha when he got depressed and tried self annihilation. While in Rahu + Mars, he had mood swings. Finally now he is under Jupited + Jupiter, but still sometimes he goes violent and looks depressed. His Details : 19th November 1986 ; 06:53 AM ; Patna. I would be grateful if you can throw some light on this chart, and also evaluate (present and future) a bit if you can. Most importantly does this chart falls in the category being discussed over here? If yes, under what combinations? If no, then why did the native went so depressed and violent? Thanks Ayush Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sasisekaran_pti 0 Report post Posted May 30, 2008 OM GURUBHYO NAMAH namaste dear shri.ayush, your brother's chart seems to contain negatives. start from lagna. lagna contains two enemies sitting together causing conflicts. in addition to this, rahu's aspect comes in. the sign itself is eigth of the kaalapurusha. there is an exchange between saturn and mars, occuring in the house of lagna and fourth house of 'sukha '. the positive factor is that of lagna lord's association with a strong benefic jupiter. yet the very same jupiter is the lord of 64th navamsa, thereby bringing in difficulty. Atma karka is mercury, who is the eigth lord.. merc is placed in 12th in rasi and eigth in navamsa. it is bad. moon is placed in bhadaka sthana. moon is bhadakathipati for this lagna. moon dasa started in 2002 end. much more can be written, but i would like to stop here. more than normal vimsottari dasa scheme, you can apply shastihayani dasa. it does throw more light. did his problems start from 2003 onwards ? if you can provide date, month and year details of sickness we can compare vimsottari and shastihayani. i prefer shastihayani in this case very much. may mother bless all regards sasisekaran Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
medan 0 Report post Posted May 30, 2008 Dear Shri Sasusekaran, Please note that in addition to all the valid points you have made, 5th lord (mind) is again with 6th lord (illness) and Rahu is square to Moon, combinations which I have found in many mentally sick people's charts (of course these have to be accompanied by other considerations, too). Another factor that seems impotant to me is that affliction to AK can show in many ways - not necessarily mental illness only. So there has to be some way of narrowing down the mental illness part of it. Other than Moon square Rahu, Moon (karaka of mind) is not only in marana sthana in rasi, but is also in 12th house in navamsa, with 6th lord Mars, aspected by 8th lord Mercury. I am just trying to explore and see if we can add anything to our knowledge by our experience. Regards, Medan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sasisekaran_pti 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2008 om gurubhyo namah namaste dear shri.medan, mentall illness should definetly include , as you said the fifth bhava, its lord, fifth karaka jupiter, moon the mind. if we tabulate all these in the four charts given by you and the one given by ayush , some idea must be derived. i will take some more time to do this. mean while you may also pl attempt. may mother bless all regards sasisekaran Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
medan 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2008 Dear Shri Sasisekaran, I agree with your idea. I also want to compare the horoscopes of a couple of completely normal people to make sure that the same things aren't present in them as in the horoscopes of those with illness. I will take quite long because I'm moving to another house in the next couple of weeks and there's confusion everywhere. Once everything is unpacked, I'll also send you the details of Case E. Regards, Medan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ayush 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2008 OM GURUBHYO NAMAH namaste dear shri.ayush, your brother's chart seems to contain negatives. start from lagna. lagna contains two enemies sitting together causing conflicts. in addition to this, rahu's aspect comes in. the sign itself is eigth of the kaalapurusha. there is an exchange between saturn and mars, occuring in the house of lagna and fourth house of 'sukha '. the positive factor is that of lagna lord's association with a strong benefic jupiter. yet the very same jupiter is the lord of 64th navamsa, thereby bringing in difficulty. Atma karka is mercury, who is the eigth lord.. merc is placed in 12th in rasi and eigth in navamsa. it is bad. moon is placed in bhadaka sthana. moon is bhadakathipati for this lagna. moon dasa started in 2002 end. much more can be written, but i would like to stop here. more than normal vimsottari dasa scheme, you can apply shastihayani dasa. it does throw more light. did his problems start from 2003 onwards ? if you can provide date, month and year details of sickness we can compare vimsottari and shastihayani. i prefer shastihayani in this case very much. may mother bless all regards sasisekaran Dear Sasisekaran, Thanks for evaluating the chart. I believe his sickness started somewhere in the year 2003. He used to be violent since then. In December 2006, he tried sleeping pills. By Jan 2007 he was very violent, he used to disrespect everyone in the family. But by mid 2007 he became normal. Although we know the reasons for his steps and sickness, I want to see how relevant does it look in his chart. Thats another reason why I'm worried with my Moon + Rahu combination. Finally, Sasisekaran, I would be pleased if you can discuss this chart from all the aspects. If not here then in another thread. Thanks Ayush Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sasisekaran_pti 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 om gurubhyo namah namaste dear shri.Ayush, i prefer discussing the chart here itself unless you have reservations. it is better for other intereseted readers to follow. incident 1: start of disease. you have said the onset of disease was in dec 2003 as i indicated earlier. Vimsottari Dasa ------------------ Rah MD: 1989-12-11 - 2007-12-11 Ven AD: 2001-06-29 - 2004-06-28 Pratyantardasas in this AD: Ven: 2001-06-29 - 2001-12-29 ............................................ Rah: 2002-07-27 - 2003-01-07 >> Jup: 2003-01-07 - 2003-06-01 >> Sat: 2003-06-01 - 2003-11-24 >> problem started here........ note saturn is placed in 4th house in navamsa. a bad one ! if you consider shastihayani dasa which is applicable in his case problem occured exactly in the bhadakathipathis's period. bhadakadipathi is placed in 8th. Shashti-hayani Dasa ----------------------- Maha Dasas: Sun: 1982-12-22 - 1992-12-22 Mars: 1992-12-22 - 2002-12-22 Moon: 2002-12-22 - 2008-12-22...>> onset of disease Merc: 2008-12-22 - 2014-12-22 moon is placed in mrigasira. if you go by the nakshatra purusha concept mrigasira represents the centre of eyebrows where the agnya charkra is placed. if possible just call for a professional check up of the pitutary gland. incident 2: took sleeping pills .. attempt to cause self destruction. Vimsottari Dasa ------------------ Rah MD: 1989-12-11 - 2007-12-11 Mars AD: 2006-11-23 - 2007-12-11 Pratyantardasas in this AD: Mars: 2006-11-23 - 2006-12-15 >> either here or Rah: 2006-12-15 - 2007-02-09 >> here Jup: 2007-02-09 - 2007-03-31 mars is placed in 8th house in D11- Rudramsa, a varga seen for death. mars is aspecting mercury , the atma karaka placed in 8th in navamsa. Shashti-hayani Dasa ----------------------- Moon MD: 2002-12-22 - 2008-12-22 Jup AD: 2005-12-22 - 2006-12-22 Pratyantardasas in this AD: Jup: 2005-12-22 - 2006-02-19 .............................................................................. Sat: 2006-10-12 - 2006-11-17 Rah: 2006-11-17 - 2006-12-22 >> attempt rahu is placed in sixth in navamsa.. another bad place ! immeidate future:- vimsottari ----------- next dasa is that of jupiter, who is the lord of 4th in navamsa. the bhukthi are that of jupiter to be followed by saturn. both can trouble him. care is needed. shastihayani dasa: -------------------- next dasa is that of mercury - AK. He is rudra in the chart. you seem to have fortgotten the dates of incident. it would have been better, if you remember. more after hearing from you. may mother bless all regards sasisekaran Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
babu786 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2008 Namaste sri Medan Ji & Sasisekaran Ji , I am extremly Sorry Medan Ji , for the wrong time given(8.30Am)here. It's 6.30AM. Thank you sasisekaran ji for pointing out this .It was typo from my side.please excuse me. I was out of town for two weeks.So I couldn't read your reply posted here.Today , I have gone through the complete thread and found very interesting discussion going here. Thank you so much for your effort and patience to share the knowledge. --Ram Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beesan 0 Report post Posted June 6, 2008 The three elements that govern the mind are the Moon, the IV house from the ascendant and the IV house from the Moon. The three elements that govern illness are Saturn, the VI house from the ascendant and the VI house from Saturn. Therefore if (i) Saturn and the Moon are related in a chart, (ii) the IV house from the ascendant is related to the VI house form the ascendant, and (iii) the IV house from the Moon is related to the VI house from Saturn, the individual would suffer from mental illness. Even if one of the three relationships does not exist the illness would not appear. We have to take a broader definition of relationships. This is given amongst my articles on mathur-ammas-com. Please read a dot (.) in place of a dash (-) since this site does not accept URLs from everybody. Dear Sir! I just signed up to be a member of this site, because I got very much interested in vedic astrology. Although I'm European I'm very much inclined into vedanta and the scriptures. I've have come the read these posts, because of the fact that my ex-boyfriend (a genius musician and mathematician) was diagnosed with scizophrenia. (And he fits the criteria of having no will power at all) But as I was reading this special post I became anxious, because I realized that even I fit all the above mentioned creteria, as far as I'm well read in astrology. Please woluld you mind to take a look at my chart Born: Female. 13/02/1979. 18.30 Palce:Lat: 47:29N Long: 19:05E. I just had once depressions in 2003 approx. in Apr-May-Jun. Since then, no such thing happened to me. Maybe because I changed my way of living? No meat at all, much yoga, and small meditations. (For case study, I'm going to post my ex-boyfriend's data: 28/01/1975 21:00 Place:Long: 19'40E Lat:46'5 N) Looking forward to your answer! Kind regards, beesan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beesan 0 Report post Posted June 6, 2008 Dear Sir! I just signed up to be a member of this site, because I got very much interested in vedic astrology. Although I'm European I'm very much inclined into vedanta and the scriptures. I've have come the read these posts, because of the fact that my ex-boyfriend (a genius musician and mathematician) was diagnosed with scizophrenia. (And he fits the criteria of having no will power at all) But as I was reading this special post I became anxious, because I realized that even I fit all the above mentioned creteria, as far as I'm well read in astrology. Please woluld you mind to take a look at my chart Born: Female. 13/02/1979. 18.30 Palce:Lat: 47:29N Long: 19:05E. I just had once depressions in 2003 approx. in Apr-May-Jun. Since then, no such thing happened to me. Maybe because I changed my way of living? No meat at all, much yoga, and small meditations. (For case study, I'm going to post my ex-boyfriend's data: 28/01/1975 21:00 Place:Long: 19'40E Lat:46'5 N) Looking forward to your answer! Kind regards, beesan <!-- / message --> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ayush 0 Report post Posted June 6, 2008 Dear sasisekaran Once again thanks for doing a deep study on the chart. The ace of illness was somewhere in the mid of December 2006. I'm more concerned about the future of the native. Please do guide on this matter. What remedies should be taken into considerationg to reduce the bad effects of the comming dasas. Also I would be grateful if you can evaluate the chart on the following grounds. Is this time good academically? What would be the native's financial condition throughout his life? How would be the relationship with spouse? Are there indications of repetation of illness? In which field would the native be eminent? Thanks Ayush Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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